← Unsupervised with Syd & TP
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A
What up?
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B
You remember those commercials?
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A
Those were so good. Bring those back.
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B
Bring them back. What up, babysitters?
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A
How we doing today, y'? All?
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B
We got some fun ahead. We never really tell them what we have planned, but. No, we got some special guests.
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A
I promise you it'll be good.
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B
We got some special guests. Not neca. Just start mentioning who's not coming on. Not neca, but we do have Alicia Clark, Brianna Turner. They're coming to talk CBA with us. It's gonna be fun. What? Read a DM and get out of here.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah. So if y' all been interested in what's going on with the. With the cba, or you've been keeping up, or you haven't, but you would like to know more from people who were in those rooms. We got that. Like, we got you.
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A
Stay tuned.
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B
Stay tuned.
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A
Why have this amazing theme song
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C
Unsupervised? Unsupervised. Yeah.
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D
Yes.
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C
Yes.
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D
Yeah, we say what we want and yeah, we say what we feel. Sitting tmp of the mix and they be keeping it real on brand, off topic, out of pocket Anything you need, they got it why don't you shout? We know they gonna block it when it's game time and you know I'm gonna block it. And we cover everything like who harder than us? And yeah, we looking down on haters. Cause they smaller than us and yeah, my flow is so damn sick I be coughing it up. You said that we gone flat. Well, then I'm calling your bl.
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A
All right, babysitters, just like we promised. We actually never promised you a damn thing, so you're welcome. Here we have the. Not the. Non. Only the. The contributors to our current cba. The. The. The locomotion behind the push.
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B
Whoa.
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A
We have Alicia Clark and Briana Turner. Welcome to the. Welcome to the pod, you guys. And say hi to the babysitters.
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B
What's up?
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E
Thanks for having us, guys.
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B
No, of course. We were thrilled to have y'. All. We know obviously, what. What just took place. I mean, you see, you've seen a lot of. A lot of players. I'm sure y' all have seen everybody, like, describe it and whatever word or phrase they want to use. But this CBA is obviously transformational. But me and tp, like, NECA couldn't. Couldn't make it because obviously she's been doing, like, 20 interviews a day. But, you know, we really wanted.
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A
On first take this morning, I was like, is she sure she's able to make it?
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B
No facts. But we for sure wanted. Wanted. Y'. All to be a part of this conversation. Like, just. Alicia, you've been in the league for so long, so you're able to talk about what you've seen transpire over the course of your years in the W. In Breezy. We play. We got the chance to. To play together this year in Indy. And, you know, just being able to. To see how you speak on things that are important, understanding how intelligent you are. Like, y' all were some of the people that we just wanted to have be a part of this conversation with. With, you know, the babysitters, being able to listen. So truly, thank y' all for being here. And, Lisa, you don't have to keep your food aside. We know you were eating on that big sausage. So
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C
I was about to say something smart, and I missed. I was like, be nice today. And then here you go.
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B
No, no, no.
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C
Yeah.
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B
Don't ever be nice. They've seen you on here before. You don't. Don't fake the funk, please.
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A
Honey, I'm so sorry that this is your experience so far, but we're looking to make that better as this goes on. So we wanted to have a. Just a conversation with you guys. Not necessarily, like, you know, probably the typical questions that you guys have been getting about the cba, but just, like, a little bit more insight about, like, personally what you guys, you know, endured and went through and everything that it took to make this decision possible. Endured? No, like, later on, we're gonna find out where I use the word endured, but we'll. We'll get there. So one of our first questions is obviously, like, as players, we kind of take for granted, like, understanding how the EC is selected and what goes into, like, the roles that each of you guys have. So if you want to go one by one and share, like, how the EC process goes and what your individual role is and how long you hold that position for, just so, you know, an outside perspective, fans can understand, like, how intentional it is to put people in those positions to be able to make the CBA happen.
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E
So I'm the treasurer.
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C
I.
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A
Hey, money, money.
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C
Crazy hidden figures. Turner.
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E
I have a number.
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B
Hey. That was a rich laugh. That was a rich laugh.
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E
I signed the, like, tax documents. So, yeah, I'm part of the ec. Yeah, I'm here. I got voted in. I'm pretty sure I ran on the post, but happy to be doing the work.
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B
How many years will you hold this position?
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E
This is my first time as treasurer on the ec, but the last go around, I was one of the vice presidents but this time I was a treasurer the second time around. So I think our terms end, I think, after this year. So if you want to join the ec, you can join next time around. Maybe everyone want one imposed, but we'll see.
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B
Okay, awesome.
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C
Thanks, Brizzy. I'm one of the vice presidents, and, yeah, to Breezy's point. So how it goes is positions open up, and Terry, who's our executive director, is like, hey, nominations for the executive committee are going to go out. If you want to be a part, like, submit your application basically, and you submit, like, a paragraph. I think, Breezy, it was a paragraph about why you want to run for the ac. Oh, mine was. Mine was good.
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B
Oh, okay. Well, of course you're going to say that. We decided.
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E
What?
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C
No. So in mine, I just was like, I'm one of the only players that's literally been on every level of this league from being cut to not playing to being a bench player, to working into, like, a critical piece of championship teams to now, like, being a vet. The only thing I haven't been is, like, a mega superstar, and I'm cool with that. But I've been around enough and played with enough that I know how they operate and think and what they need. I get it.
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B
You get it?
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C
You get it? And I was like, you know, I'm on my way out, and I have no problem, you know, lighting a little fire on my way out. So if you want me, I'm here. Like, that's a lady.
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B
And you did.
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A
Breezy didn't need a paragraph because they were just like, no, it's just you save your time. You got it.
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B
Breezy, what would you have said?
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E
I just didn't know I was running on a poll, so I got the ballot. I was like, oh, it fits me good.
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B
What'd you say? Breezy, what'd you say? You remember?
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E
I think I was just like, I want to represent the league. I'm excited to represent all the players. I love equality, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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A
I would have voted for you regardless.
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C
Same. But throughout this whole negotiation, we've called her Brianna Hidden Figures Turner, because that's
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A
what my girl was.
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C
Okay,
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B
please put Breezy on the Hidden Figures, like, poster.
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A
We need that poster. Just squeeze her in there.
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B
That's amazing.
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A
That's amazing. So a few. A lot of our questions are coming from, like, a fan perspective of. Fan, like, understanding perspective of this whole thing. So, like, up until, like, really the last week, it seemed, like, very stagnant. And so, you know, there was a huge Push at the end. So, you know, was there any catalyst that caused this pace of negotiations? Or, like, was the deadline an actual deadline? Like, what. Like, what were we working with here?
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C
I would say the catalyst was time. There was a lot of time that went in between proposals earlier in this. In the year. And, yeah, we don't. The deadlines were not the union's deadlines, so that wasn't our doing. We never.
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B
So the deadlines were news to y'?
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C
All?
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E
Yeah, yeah. Those are above our pay grade. They had nothing to do with us.
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C
Above us. So we never operated on any deadline because we weren't. I mean, we were never made aware in, like, real time of what actual deadlines were. So. So we just kept operating.
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B
What was the group chat looking like when. When y' all heard of a deadline?
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E
Like, it was looking like, what was this deadline when y't respond for six weeks back in January? Where was the urgency then? Yeah, yeah, the math ain't happening right now from our.
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C
So we were like, we're gonna stay over here in cruise control and keep negotiating for however long it takes. We're gonna just. We're here. But really, that's what it was. We just knew once they responded, we were gonna continue to respond in a timely fashion on our part and continue pushing and fighting for what we wanted. And we honestly were like, we don't care how long this takes. There's been six weeks that were wasted, but, you know, we can't change that now. So however long it takes, it's gonna take.
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B
Can y' all talk briefly? Briefly about. Just don't look at me like that. I slipped up.
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C
Goosebumps. You got it, babe.
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B
Can you all.
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A
No, no, it's just your podcast.
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B
So, like, can y' all speak briefly just about Terry, Michael, Jane, like, everybody's contribution, like, from the union staff to keep y', all, like, steady, informed, like, not panicking. Like, what. What was it like within the room like from them to keep y'. All, like, when a debt. When a deadline all of a sudden pops up and y' all are confused, like, how much did their leadership, you know, impact. Yalls. Yalls mindset, your approach to all of this?
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E
I would say they were incredible. Like, we were staying. The players are staying in the meetings till, like, 1 2am they were staying till, like, 4 or 5am I pretty sure over those courses, those 10 days, they probably didn't sleep more than 3, 4 hours. And just, like, the time and dedication, like, people are, like, obviously, like, hyping the players in the EC and all the players involved. But, like, we do not get this deal done. We do not get half this stuff done without our PA staff, like from our lawyers, our advisors. We even had people working pro bono, like, people volunteered their time just to help support women, which I just thought was like, yeah, incredible.
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B
Yeah.
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E
So, like, there's so many people behind the scenes that support the W that want a success, that are willing to work 16 hour days and know they're not getting paid.
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C
That was. That was mind blowing to us when we learned that. That we had people working pro bono. And we were just like. That just shows the dedication to this movement, to what we were actually in this room fighting for. And yeah, like Breezy said, our staff was incredible.
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B
I saw you either shout her out, put something on your story before or something, or like, you and Neca, y' all had like, tiktoks just of this whole process, like, showing, you know, everybody that was involved, like, the. The big moments, the. The waiting, the anticipation. But, you know, I just want to. We wanted to ask that because like, y' all said a lot of the times, the players are the ones just getting the credit for this. And obviously you all did a. A tremendous job, but it's hard without advisors, without a staff, you know, informing you and telling you how to go about this process. So we just wanted to take a second, you know, for y' all to be able to. To show them love and.
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C
And forgot about Tag. Claudia, Charles. Like, our whole. Our whole advisory staff was. No, literally, like, they need to be in, like, Avengers costumes. Just like. No, they were. They were amazing. And the way that they explained everything, because the cba, it's a lot of language, it's a lot of nuances and a lot of lawyer language. And the way that they were able to break it down into layman's terms for us to understand and really grasp, I think is a skill in itself. And they. I mean, they did that flawlessly. So shout out to our whole advisory staff and everybody on the PA staff, because y' all did that.
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A
Really shout out to them. Because when we first came in the league, I'm not even certain who Terry, who. Who was Terry before Terry. Like, I don't know who held that position respectfully and. But Terry. This is the second time Terry was a part of making, like, a historical agreement. The first one would be in the bubble. That wasn't the easiest thing to talk through and to protect players through, and now this. So, you know, shout out to the PA staff and all you guys involved with that, it was. This was. This is incredible. It's like, was there a time that, like, really changed the. The pace or, like, change the status of what everybody was, you know, looking to do?
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E
I would say maybe the. When the league put out, like, that deadline chart, saying, like, if it doesn't get done by this date, everything's going to get delayed. And so I think that fairly. I think some players, like, believed the dates that the W was setting and thought, like, oh, like, we just need to come to an agreement by then so that we can just start the season. So I think that was some difficult times when some people are like, oh, like, believe the league. Like, the league says, so. So it must be true. Versus other players that were like, let's test it. Let's see if they gonna stand on business or not. So I think that was just like a difficult time just to, like, go through. Pass through that moment when the league set that deadline.
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C
And I think there was one call where it was all players and there was just some, like, high emotions that were on the call. And I think that moment kind of shifted also the trajectory of just, like, reroading everyone back to, like, what the main goal is, and that's to fight for what we're worth and to remind ourselves of what we set out to do when we opted out. Because it was a long period. Like, it was 16 months over the course of this entire negotiation period. So that was a long time ago when we opted out. And back then, it's like, everyone's all, rah, rah, we'll do whatever it takes. But when, you know, stuff started hit the fan and it started getting close and tight, it was, you know, to Breezy's point, with that deadline, there were some people that started to falter and give into that pressure a little bit. But, you know, we had, I think, enough people to kind of, with our staff and players included of just like, reminding each other of what our goal was. And whatever it takes to get to that goal is what it is, what it's going to take.
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B
You know, you still see so many things, which, I mean, to be expected. All of us have been in the league for a long time. None of us are players on teams, so we're especially used to hearing people just say outlandish stuff to come to their mind.
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E
No, no thinking for your speaking. I. I hear their thoughts before they even speak them.
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B
100% premeditated.
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E
I get the pre.
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B
As soon as this verbal agreement was done, I was like, the backlash that's going to be received is. Is going to be funny. Like, because it's so interesting to me because people get so incensed about hearing that we want to fight for more money. Like, it's a pain point for them in their personal lives for whatever reason. And it's so interesting.
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E
They sent me text like, all right, this come from my bank account.
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B
I'm like, is this coming from y'?
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A
All?
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E
They're making too much. What?
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B
Like, I would never.
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A
I would never be played more. Doesn't mean your salary at whatever your job is is going to be decreasing.
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B
I'm not interrupting if teachers want to strike. I'm not interrupting if male people FedEx, whoever. If they feel like in their job they need to do whatever to get what they deserve. That's typically what happens.
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E
I'm a million times pro union now. Like a union. I support it. Fight for what you need, what you want. I support your union 100%. I'm for the people, for the unions, right?
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B
So I'm like, there seems to be this, you know, this real issue, though, when it's women especially fighting for what they believe they should get. And I was watching something the other day, and this guy was like, well, it's so interesting. Like, y' all have such a big problem with W players asking for what they deserve. But in the NBA, y' all really don't talk about how it's a socialist type structure in the NBA. Like, but now when the women want to do the same thing, they're like, well, your team, or you're not even making the money, you're not bringing it in. Do you think that the Pelicans, for instance, tp Are they bringing in the same amount? Is Houston bringing in the same amount as, like, the Lakers, as whatever the other big teams are? No, they're not. But they still get to share whatever the revenue is. It gets dished out amongst all of the teams, even if those teams don't make the same amount in their respective markets.
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E
It's almost like it's like a team sport. A team lead, a team lead. Everybody unfortunately has to eat. Some people can't starve. Like, everyone gets a piece of the pie, right?
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B
It's just funny that people, I mean, I guess they just. They're going to keep complaining and continue talking about it. But I am. I'm especially glad about this moment because I think that this has shown whether it's women's athletes or not is showing women to fight for what you believe you your worth. The difference in how often women will Go in and ask for a raise compared to how often men do or ask for a promotion, whatever it is. Women might do it like once a. Once a year. And men are doing it like every quarter, if not more. And so it's like. And sometimes they might not even be deserving of it, but you're going in and asking for something more just to see what the other person says. Like in regular jobs, people go to, they say, they see what they might make at another place and then they come back and they say, well, this, they're willing to pay me this over the, over here. So, you know, you can either match that or I'm a leave. And it's fine in regular jobs, but when we're doing this, it's just like, whoa.
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C
But it's crazy.
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B
Ends up, don't shoot, buddy.
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C
But it's crazy. You say that because after the deal, after we came to a verbal agreement, I was having a conversation with a friend who, you know, her business is, you know, in women's sports. And she was like, it was literally, I was literally hanging on by the edge of my seat waiting to see what happened. Because if you guys didn't reach an agreement, my business is over. Because everything I do is around women's sports. And all these, you know, sponsors and partners, all they needed was like, well, they didn't give it to the W. So see, told you. And I didn't. That was such a big, like, eye opening moment for me. And then just like all the messages from other women in different career fields of being like, you guys are setting the stage for the rest of us to know that it's okay to fight
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B
for what we're worth.
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C
And in the moment that we're in this room, like, we're not thinking that broadly. We're thinking of, you know, the athletes that are here in this league, that are going to come in through this league and just trying to make it better for them. Like, it's so focused on that. And when I got out and saw and was hearing all that, I was like, omg. I was like, I'm glad I didn't know this before. I had a little pressure. And that would have been pressure a lot. I would have been like, whoa. But it's just really incredible to see how far what we do in the WNBA trickles into the rest of society. And I'm just, I'm really proud of that. I'm really proud of what we were able to accomplish and really proud to inspire other women to go out there and get your Coin, sis. Like, you deserve it just as much. You're putting in the same work, the same amount of sacrifice that your counterparts are. And it's like, why not be paid what you're worth? I'm tired of women being pushed down and told to just appreciate and accept what's here. And it's like, nah, we can get more for what we're doing and we should. And so, yeah, go get that coin, babes.
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B
I love that. And I was, and I was about to say, and not even just for, like, especially for women. Yeah, like, we're women, we play, you know, women's in, like, in women's sports. But for society at large to see fighting for what is right, for the right thing, standing up for yourself when you see a system or a structure in place, because this can easily be. Be talked about with what we're seeing just going on in the US or in the country, like in the world at large. When you see that something's taking place that, you know is not right. When enough people come together to decide that they are going to stand for what they believe is the right thing. Change does happen a lot of the times. And so I'm just, you know, especially, especially proud of you guys. Like, didn't think that I would be around the league to even see something like this leash. Maybe you feel the same way, but, you know, I came in in 2011, you came in in 10, 2012. In 2012. It's like, this is this, this will be a time. This CBA is a generational talent. This would be an appropriate time to say generational talent. This is, that's what this is.
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A
Absolutely.
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B
Like, what thing are y' all specifically proud of? Like, within this cba, what's the one thing that y' all are just like, okay, besides salary, Besides salary, what's the thing that's like, dang, I'm really glad that we got this included in this cba.
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E
For me, it'd definitely be like housing, because when we first went with the league early February, it was literally no housing for, for anybody. And they even had the developmental players in studio apartments. And to now with the most recent, with the CBA, it's housing for 26, 27, 28, and then housing for 29 and 20, 30 for players making less than half a mil. And then all those years, developmental players get a one bedroom apartment. So for me, housing just really big. We have so many international players. We always have players moving to new cities for only like six, six months at a time. Players. Not everyone's on guarantee contracts. So so many different factors. A lot of people already have homes in another city, so having to find one in a new city. So we thought this phase out. Yeah, getting traded, getting cut. So we thought the phase, that opportunity over the next five years for housing is going to really help players. And obviously with the increased salaries, players can save more on the front end and then worry about housing in a couple years. So for me, it was just really, really big on the housing component. And just another tidbit, just I mentioned to the league one of their meetings, I was like, what are you guys gonna. Because at first there was no housing in 28. So I was like, what happens when the Olympics are in LA in 28 where those players would stay at?
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C
And they were like, oh.
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E
And they were just like, oh, we didn't think about the Olympics. And I was like, oh, well, maybe you should.
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A
They happen every four years.
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C
Kind of a big deal.
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E
But I think it was just so many components that, like, the league wasn't really thinking about. But I thought it was helpful for us to meet, like, face to face and they can, like, hear, like, concerns. Like, we have players on. We have, like, all player calls. We had a player bring up housing discrimination and purchasing a home. Like, the majority of our league is black woman. So there's so many different factors to consider that I don't think the league considered. So it was good that they listened to us on that end. And obviously it was a really positive result for housing.
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B
Yeah, I heard you were the housing warrior.
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C
She was housing everybody who's in housing for the next three years. Make sure you shout out breezy, send her a little something.
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B
Send her a little Zen or no, shoot. She could just stay at your house whenever she feel like it. If I'm in the city, I'm not getting a hotel. Like, text me your addy. I'm pulling up.
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A
What?
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B
You wouldn't even have this without me.
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C
Yeah, facts. Hey.
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A
But only in. Only in WNBA cities. Like, there is still the wnba, so there has to be a limited. So sorry, Breezy, you can't stay at my house in New Orleans. I'm just kidding. You can. Just not during season, though.
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B
What was the most important thing for you?
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C
For me, it was around retirement benefits. Because one the W doesn't have a pension and the only source of retirement that we've been provided is a match into our 401k. But the caveat with that was I said, like, from the very beginning, like, literally day one, I was like, there needs to be something in here for retired players. Because when you look at just what salaries were over the last 28 years, I mean they weren't significant enough to where players could max out the contributions to their 401k. It was, you had to either you could max out your 401k and take away your like actual living expenses to be able to buy groceries and those
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A
things and did and or you can
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C
use that money to like live your day to day life. And so, you know, they're, the league's initial proposal was they're just going to increase what they put into our 401k. And I was like, that's great. But that still doesn't help the players that came before to keep this league afloat. It doesn't, it doesn't show any appreciation to me because they still don't have any pension, they still don't have lifetime healthcare like the male leagues have where they take care of their athletes. And so I'm like, it needs to be something. And so, you know, through the negotiation process as we're narrowing down lists, it was like, okay, what do we feel about what are your top priorities? And mine every time was retirement. And you know, there were questions along the way of like, hey leash, do you think like you can't, like would you want to move off of this and maybe just try that for next time? And I was like, absolutely not. Because we're the last group of players that are close enough to the, to the pioneers of this league that really like we saw up close what circumstances look like, like what the day to day life in the W look like. And yeah, like sharing a roommate, carrying your bags, sleeping in airports, like just sleeping. It was, it was a lot. And so this younger generation, they're farther removed for it and they have an appreciation but they don't understand like personally that sacrifice. And so I was like, no, I'm not moving off of this. And so I'm really proud of what we were able to get to. Not only did Erin, you know, she did all the number. Erin is a whiz. She was doing all the numbers around 401k, what the legal, you know, limits were and what wasn't being matched. And so she was able to get that up to where it's completely maxed out from the contributions from teams and league. And then also really fought in making sure, you know, these veteran recognition payments were substantial. And she and I worked closely on it. She's like, what do you feel like these should be? And I was like, not what they're offering. And if I literally said what the league offered in the beginning, people would be very embarrassed. And so what we were able to get now with the five to seven years, eight to 11 and 12 plus, I'm like, that 12 plus needs to be something significant enough. And it can't be under six figures because at least that allows these other players to be able to go and do something and invest it how they want. But at least it's like, significant enough to where it's like, oh, you're like, oh, like, okay, I don't know anybody else who's trying to turn down $100,000. Like, thank you, I'll take it.
- [27:50]
E
You know, and if they had passed, it went on to their. Which is really making part of the ac. Also, I want to shout you out for that one. Honestly, it's amazing.
- [28:00]
C
That was. And that little tidbit was Tina Charles's tidbit because she was thinking about, you know, just recently, what happened with Kara Braxton passing and then Tiffany Jackson and just other players who don't reach the limit of 65 to be able to get that. What happens? Like, why doesn't it go to their dependents? And honestly, nobody really had thought about that. Everyone was like, wow, we didn't think of that. And so once that was on the table, we were not moving off of that. And so shout out again to just Aaron and our staff for making that a top priority. And I'm just really proud like, that that is something that. That I can honestly say I had a hand in. And that, for me, means everything.
- [28:39]
B
That's amazing. Like, this is just. I know. And I know for those former players, too, that that has to feel so good. Because while we can't do anything just like any other field where time passes and NBA players of the past, who were the greats, I'm sure are looking at some players now like, dang, you making that. And I got this. And you. You can't. You can't change what the. What the disparity is in the compensation. But it was important for. For. For us to. And for you specifically to be fighting for that. It says a lot, not just about your care for people, but that's the whole point of all this. They set the stage for us to be able to still have a league to play. In the very least that we can do is do something to make sure that they get a little compensation. That really is not even enough, but is. Is something. And you fighting for that is not just fighting for More payment for them. It's a lesson in taking care of people who came before you. You know what I'm saying? Like, and so I'm just. I'm glad that you saw fit to fight that hard to make sure that this was something that you didn't back down on, because hopefully, you know, there were young players on the calls when they would hear you speak that understand, like, you know what? It is important to respect who came before me to. To fight for them, to do my very best in the opportunity that I have now. And so just, those are. Those are huge things that y' all played a part in. Like, we're just happy, obviously, that it benefits us, but so proud of y'. All.
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A
Just so everyone knows, like, my rookie year, I was a. I was a third round draft pick, so I was making a whopping $41,000 before taxes, and no one told me that I.
- [30:34]
E
What year?
- [30:34]
A
TP 2014, baby. Let's.
- [30:36]
B
Let's just all share. I'm 2011, 16th pick. I was 37. 37 1.
- [30:43]
C
I was 2010, but I didn't make a team till 2012. And my salary, I actually looked this up. I found my contracts. My salary was 36,000 and maybe like $400. So.
- [30:55]
B
Okay, okay.
- [30:56]
E
I was 2019, pick 11. My salary was for $44,000.
- [31:01]
A
Okay. You were allowed to. Back in the day, you were allowed to add $18,000 to your 401k. They didn't actually tell you that. Veterans on the team told you, hey, if you want to invest in your 401k, you can. So I was actually out of my $43,000, fully maxing out my 401k shout out to you. So I was pocketing the rest. Y' all could do the math. But that's not even how much I actually pocketed because of taxes as well. Yeah.
- [31:33]
C
So really, you are paying the W to play?
- [31:36]
A
Basically, Pretty pretty much. We're gonna play this game called things you can do in 100 hours. Why did I pick that number amount, may you ask? Because in the last week of negotiations, through their one week of time in New York, there was a hundred hours spent in W headquarters negotiating voluntarily. Voluntarily negotiating in person. 100 hours, okay? So I'm gonna break down 100 hours for you. Okay? You could watch every single one of the 26 official Jam Bond movies almost twice. You could watch the entire Sopranos series, which was only 86 hours. So you have a little time to spare. You could watch all Marvel, all 35 MCU movies. Back to back. And you would still. Still. That's 76.6 hours. Still have time to spare.
- [32:35]
B
Congrats, y'.
- [32:36]
C
All. Thank you.
- [32:37]
A
Wow.
- [32:38]
C
Okay.
- [32:39]
A
The International Space Station. It circles the world 66 times in 100 hours. One orbit every 90 minutes, covering 1.7 million miles.
- [32:52]
C
Wow. So Beyonce's song is true. Who runs the world?
- [32:58]
A
Girls. A person walking at a steady pace of 3 miles an hour could cover 300 miles in 100 hours. Roughly the distance from New York City to Boston and back Halfway.
- [33:10]
C
Wow. That's insane.
- [33:13]
B
Wait, you skipped the. You skipped the.
- [33:16]
A
I didn't skip. I was saving it for last. So way to go. Way to ruin it.
- [33:21]
C
Patience.
- [33:22]
A
We don't know how much.
- [33:23]
B
Next time, put it in order.
- [33:25]
A
So this might be a little traumatic for you to be. For us to be bringing this up to you guys. So sorry in advance, but at 100 hours, Europe approaching 100 hours of no sleeping, which I hope that you guys got some rest throughout this 100 hours. Okay, cool. You're approaching the limits of human wakefulness. The all time record is much higher. It's 260 hours. But staying awake for a hundred hours is roughly four days and four hours of conscious continuous activity. A feat also often associated with extreme radio marathons and military training. Going 100 hours without sleep places you in the danger zone of human biology. By the 72 hour mark, most people experience hallucinations and severe cognitive lapses by the 100 hour mark. The effects include sleep disorientation and total inability to concentrate.
- [34:20]
C
Well, I would think so.
- [34:23]
B
Like, were y'. All. Were y' all hallucinating?
- [34:26]
C
Not hallucinating, but I was some of those. I had some of those symptoms. I had.
- [34:33]
A
You were just.
- [34:34]
B
You were playing the piano so much. I'm just like, I don't even know, is she awake, even playing?
- [34:40]
C
Or shout out to Breezy for capturing that. I was just like, okay, I gotta do something else to activate another piece of my. My brain right now. Cause the other side is fried. I need something else to do.
- [34:51]
A
You're trying to balance it out. You're trying to balance it out.
- [34:54]
C
I was like, nobody better ask me about a number. They better not ask me to make a decision. They better not. I don't even want them to, like, raise their tongue. Like, just don't ask me a question at all.
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B
Don't talk to me.
- [35:07]
A
So you could have done all that, but instead we got a really great CBA shout out to you guys.
- [35:14]
B
Great job, ladies. So if you have to do a dump, you're doing a dump of pictures, videos, whatever from CBA negotiations. What song out of this L list are you going to put over it? A couple minutes? Olivia Dean. Hours and hours. Money long. It's 2:00am Adrien Marcel featuring Sage, the Gemini After Hours. Kani, 3:00am Matchbox. 20 or 100 years fought for fighting.
- [35:44]
C
100 years is that's the 3520 5600.
- [35:54]
A
Oh, no, but that's a good one, Alicia. That one's on the list.
- [35:59]
E
You know, I would just want you sing as my soundtrack, Sid. Honestly, I would just give you. I just let you do a voiceover for the audio.
- [36:04]
B
Rizzy, cut it out.
- [36:06]
C
Oh, my God.
- [36:07]
B
I'm taking lying.
- [36:08]
A
Please don't say that. You just have to deal with her today. I have like a full season of podcast.
- [36:14]
B
Okay, okay, one more, cuz then we know y' all got to dip after this. All right, so this is called CBA with a twist. All right, so CBA obviously stands for Collective Bargaining agreement, but we're going to give you some other meanings for those acronyms, and you'll just give your, like, your answer out of whatever I throw out. All right, so Cardi, Beyonce, Anita Baker, that trio. You got to choose. You're choosing. You're picking one.
- [36:45]
C
No, you got to pick Queen bee.
- [36:50]
E
Breezy, Beyonce.
- [36:51]
B
Okay.
- [36:51]
A
Okay.
- [36:52]
B
Crips, Bloods. A world with no violence. With no gang violence.
- [36:56]
C
A world with no gang violence.
- [36:58]
E
A world with no gang violence.
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A
Are you sure?
- [37:01]
C
Yeah.
- [37:02]
A
Okay. There'll be a lot less conflict, right?
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B
The last. I feel like NECA would have picked something different. She played in LA for so long. But I'll just have her.
- [37:15]
A
We'll just video her later next time, so.
- [37:18]
B
Great. Okay, and then last one. Can't buy ass. So do you think BBL should be outlawed, or do you believe that women should have bodily autonomy to do whatever they want with their bodies?
- [37:31]
C
Do what you want. If you want to walk around with a bbl, do your thing, sis. Just make sure you say it's a bbl, not you in the gym working on doing squats.
- [37:39]
A
Okay, Okay. I like that approach.
- [37:42]
E
I say, of course, get that bbl, but I think it needs to be, like, some better medical standards for the doctors that are allowed to perform the surgery.
- [37:49]
C
Wow. Changing the world.
- [37:50]
B
Y' all are always fighting.
- [37:51]
A
Guys on for.
- [37:55]
C
Thank you. The cba.
- [37:56]
A
The bbl. CBA is going to be hitting you guys up following this. Make sure that everything's covered.
- [38:04]
C
Let's fight for your rights.
- [38:06]
E
Free bbls will
- [38:09]
A
Breezy And Leash are going to come out with a commercial in a wreck.
- [38:12]
C
Need a check.
- [38:13]
A
Contact us.
- [38:16]
B
I can't wait to see it, y'. All. Thank y' all so much. This was.
- [38:21]
A
Yeah, thank you, guys.
- [38:22]
B
It was such a good convo. You know, we. We love y'. All. We respect the work that y' all put in, and, you know, here's to an awesome W season ahead.
- [38:32]
C
Thanks for having us, y'.
- [38:33]
E
All.
- [38:33]
C
We love y'.
- [38:33]
E
All. Absolutely. Thanks for having us.
- [38:35]
B
For sure.
- [38:36]
C
Breezy doesn't love y'.
- [38:37]
B
All.
- [38:39]
D
Right.
- [38:40]
B
Breezy.
- [38:42]
A
Breezy.
- [38:42]
C
We didn't love you guys.
- [38:46]
B
Breezy's like. I'm not going to say it. Say it again. T.P.
- [38:49]
E
oh, no. I haven't bought Pirates. I haven't bought it yet. I've been playing a lot of Flip seven, though.
- [38:55]
C
Swept. I won flip seven when Breez.
- [38:57]
E
Yeah, I brought. I was. I had between meetings, me and Lisa playing.
- [39:02]
C
Yeah. That was also something we did. Not taking games.
- [39:04]
E
She's been a game cu. She beat.
- [39:05]
C
She was sick. Just love.
- [39:07]
B
Gracious. No, but we appreciate y' all and we'll. We'll talk to y' all soon. We're gonna let y' all go.
- [39:14]
A
Bye.
- [39:15]
B
Bye.
- [39:15]
E
Are we allowed to log off now?
- [39:20]
A
I love having them. They were. They were avid members, avidly active members of the women's shelter in at au. So that was just like, me reminiscing a little bit about how much fun we had in person with them, but having them on. And also just like, we had a lot of voices speaking up for the cba, you know, in front of cameras and stuff like that. And these were the voices speaking loud and clear for, you know, the majority of the players. And we were fighting for. And I'm personally grateful for, you know, all the work that, you know, the middlemen of the league did. Middle women of the league did, you know, AC and Breezy and, you know, neca, you know, a leader with a vision, a leader with, like, passion behind doing the right thing. You know, having a league now, that is for everybody. Because in last CBA negotiations, it wasn't necessarily that narrative. There. Some people did. There was a, like, 11 of the league that did benefit from, you know, the pay increases, but there was a large portion of the league that, like, just couldn't last. There was. There wasn't enough money within the salary cap to keep, you know, non rookie players. Yeah. On rosters. And it wasn't, you know, a case of are they good enough or are they not? It was. They can't afford to hold on to these players. So the fact that everybody's voice was heard at the table, and everybody really, this time around, got a piece of the pie was. Was so big and, you know, shout out to the breezes and the AC's that, you know, were really spearheaded and making sure everybody was. Was spoken for.
- [41:11]
B
Hearing. Hearing Lee say why she. What she wrote, you know, in her. Her paragraph to. To get elected, it rings true. You know, she just. She wanted to go out and do something to. To make a big difference. She did exactly that. And she did it for. Not only the middle of the league right now, but for veterans who played in this league before us. And that's middlemen, that's rookies, that's stars from the past. Like, and then Breezy looking out for people on housing. Like, they're just. I just respected them already. But knowing how much that they were advocating for everyone and, you know, just being selfless, it just. It says a lot about them. And, you know, I'm just glad we could. We could chop it up with them.
- [42:01]
A
And it. It was awesome because also, there was a lot of external pressures happening. Like, Stephen A. Was barking, saying, like, oh, we need to get it. We need to get it done now if the W wants us.
- [42:09]
B
I'm like, who are like, what's yalls affiliation with the league?
- [42:13]
A
I want you to watch more than one women's basketball game.
- [42:16]
B
Every time he chime in, I'm just like, what?
- [42:18]
A
Like, shut up.
- [42:19]
B
I've never seen him have a take on the W that I like. I'm just like, what? Every time. I'm what?
- [42:26]
A
But I'm in all the people I got. I commented on Stephen A's post about how the W needs to hurry up. And everyone. Underneath that post, I was commenting, hey, I was right. If they would have said yes. When Stephen A. Said, hey, yeah, you need to do it now, they would have lost out on so much money, it was not even funny.
- [42:48]
B
But don't listen to men.
- [42:51]
A
Never listen to men.
- [42:52]
B
So there's that.
- [42:53]
A
Hey, so.
- [42:55]
B
But thank you. Shout out to. Shout out to Leash. Shout out to. To Breezy. Love y'. All. Appreciate y'. All.
- [43:00]
A
Absolutely. You know what time it is, Sid? Yeah, it goes down in the dm. It go down. It go down. Yeah. I'm so looking forward to this. DM said, like, I didn't look at it. Okay.
- [43:17]
B
Because you were so excited. So I was like, I'm not even gonna look.
- [43:21]
A
Okay. So our girl. Our girl Val, she wrote in. She said, hey, sit in T.P. i'm a student manager for a D1 women's basketball team, and my time in college comes to an end. I've always wondered if athletes remembered their water girls. Water boys. Oh, and what is something that you guys recall? Funny effed up about the student managers when y' all played college ball? Or a story in a good way in general. Anyway, love the show. Keep it up, girls, please. Well, Val, thank you so much for writing in. Yeah, also thank you for everything that you do because. Yes, not only do we remember our managers, like, we wouldn't survive without you guys.
- [44:05]
B
Yeah.
- [44:05]
A
So you. Not only will forever be ingrained in who I am as a person, but some of my favorite stories come from, like, things that managers had to get involved with.
- [44:17]
B
Yeah.
- [44:18]
A
Just because they were there. But 1 trillion percent. I remember all. Every single manager. Every single. We had these so name athletic trainers.
- [44:31]
B
So name.
- [44:32]
A
Okay, we had EB we had Jenna Bond.
- [44:35]
B
No. Okay, okay.
- [44:39]
A
You want me to keep going? We had K. No. All right. We had. We had so many really great managers anyway. Okay, so we had. We have twins. We had twin managers. We called them good. We did too.
- [44:50]
B
Oh, really? Yeah. We had Torian, Taylor, Elizabeth. I remember a lot too, though. Jd, Ryan,
- [45:00]
A
Darien. We had so many.
- [45:02]
B
We didn't have a Darien. I wonder if we had some names that were the same. We had Christina. Christina. Actually, she worked. She's working at A and M still right now, actually. I love when. I love when people become managers and then they get another position, like, on staff. Like, they just work their way, whether it's duo, manager, whatever. But managers are just so vital to a team. Like from my freshman year, I was always cool with all of our managers. I'm like, they would be in there before we get in the locker room. Like, they're at practice long before we are there. Well, after we're done, they're picking up our dirty fucking laundry. They're cleaning up after.
- [45:42]
A
Forget a birthday. They like, never cupcakes in your locker. Like, so sweet and thoughtful, very self. And also they have their own schedules that they have to do too, while taking care of all of us. Like, the managers are insanely cool. I have a really funny manager story, actually. So I played for Van Chancellor my freshman year, and Van always had, like, a plastic. Most of the time it was McAllister Zelli, but like a clear plastic cup. I remember this so vividly. A clear plastic cup of sweet tea. Every single day. He had sweet tea.
- [46:23]
B
I knew it was sweet tea.
- [46:24]
A
And one day he called over Jenna Bond. He was like. He had this accent, too. He was like, hey, Jenna Bond. Can I. Can I get some more ice in my tea? Like, yeah, no problem, Van. Jenna went to go get some ice. She came back. I don't know if I have to explain this, everybody, but when you put ice into just liquid, it raises the level of everything without having to add more liquid. Right? It's the illusion of adding ice. Van had no idea. So man was like, jen, I said, I just wanted ice. I didn't want any more tea. And Jenna was like, no. Like, all I did was. He was like, take a lap. So Jenna had to do. She had to do stadium. She went up the stair, and then she went around the pmac and then she came back down, and we were like, wait, we're in practice. Like, watching Jenna run around.
- [47:16]
B
He made a run?
- [47:18]
A
Yeah, but it wasn't really run. She was, like, taking her time, but he was like, yeah. So Jenna got punished. I had to do a lap because she just added more ice. But he didn't want any more tea. But the level. The T level was raised because of the ice.
- [47:33]
B
He's lucky social media wasn't around. He would have lost his job doing that.
- [47:37]
A
I don't know. I just don't know.
- [47:41]
B
That's abuse.
- [47:42]
A
But he didn't sleep with any of us, though. Not that I know of.
- [47:45]
B
At least say that again.
- [47:47]
A
Certainly not me. I said he didn't sleep with any of us, but certainly not me.
- [47:56]
B
But I'm like, what is it with head coaches in their specific ass drinks? Coach Blair, he. He loved a damn diet Coke. I'm like, hey, man, these Cokes are gonna kill you. You can't just down Diet Coke like this all day. You can't.
- [48:14]
A
He's like, microdosing caffeine throughout the entirety of his day. So, Val, just know you will not be forgotten. You did. Thank you for your service.
- [48:24]
B
Thank you for your service.
- [48:26]
A
And I. I can promise you, you will not be forgotten.
- [48:30]
B
All right, y'.
- [48:31]
E
All.
- [48:31]
B
Well, tp, that was an exciting informative. Hopefully for the babysitters episode.
- [48:40]
A
It was. I thought it was.
- [48:42]
B
Y' all already know. Y' all know what part of the episode this is. If you want to reach out to us, you need some advice? You want to tell us something amazing that happened, especially in these very dark times? Tell us something that good that happened to y' all during the week. We love to hear. Get us involved in your drama. Just DM us at unsupervised ctp, and
- [49:06]
A
as always, you guys don't forget, throw kindness around like confetti until next week. You guys make sure to change the world every chance you get.
- [49:24]
D
What we want and yeah, we say what we feel? Sitting tmp of the mix and they be keeping it real? On brand, off topic, out of pocket? Anything you need, they got it? Why don't you shout? We know they going to block it? When it's game time? Then you know I'm going blocking that we cover everything ain't like who, who harder than us? And yeah, we looking down on haters? Cuz they smaller than us? And yeah, my flow is so dep? I be coughing it up? You said that we going flat more than I'm calling your B.L.
- [49:49]
C
unsupervised? Unsupervised? Unsupervised. Sam.