Pat Don’t Scratch

Summary

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Unsupervised with Syd & TP

Episode: "Pat Don’t Scratch"
Release Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: Syd Colson ("Sid") & Theresa Plaisance ("TP")
Podcast Network: Dear Media

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Unsupervised" brings the same chaotic, witty, and energetic dynamic listeners expect from best friends and ex-teammates Syd Colson and Theresa Plaisance. The duo jumps between deep dives on queer representation in media, relatable athlete stories, hilarious tangents on skin conditions, inside jokes about women’s basketball, and childhood nostalgia. The high-energy vibe will make fans feel like they’ve crashed a late-night bestie group chat. If there’s a through-line, it’s twofold: a vulnerable, insightful unpacking of the TV show "Heated Rivalry" and a homegrown love letter to women’s basketball culture — from grassroots games to the rising visibility of women’s pro leagues.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Chaotic Catch-Up & Life Updates

• Deliberate Distance:
  • Syd and TP joke about spacing out their communication between pods to have more to talk about when recording.
  • Syd: “Our outside friendship is deteriorating…We’re doing it for you guys, though.” [00:29]
• Random Life Moments:
  • TP recounts her dad installing a new toilet. [01:07]
  • Immediate shift into theme song with fun banter about their timing and podcast workflow. [01:31]

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2. Deep Dive: "Heated Rivalry" (TV Show & Cultural Analysis)

Side note: "Heated Rivalry" seems to be a queer romance drama series centered on hockey players Shane and Ilya.

Episode Rankings and Spoilers

• Syd defies peer pressure:
  • “Everybody was telling me, ‘You gotta see episode five. Wait till episode five, blah blah, five five five — shut up about five. I like six better.” [02:44]
  • TP: “Five walked so six could run.” [02:55]

Validating Queer Masculinity & Representation

• Syd loved how the show depicted Shane and Ilya’s relationship, including honest moments with their families and the understated but touching finale. [03:10–03:31]
• TP (on language and vulnerability):
  • Comments on Ilya’s use of “lovers” and parallels to old-school terms like “passion marks.” [03:31]
  • “I have eczema too.” [03:54] (leading to tangent off the show)

Tangent: Eczema, Scars, and Self-Acceptance

• Both share their history with eczema and keloid scarring, and playfully rally “Team Eczema.” [04:10]
  • “You are beautiful because of it.” – TP [05:18]
  • Syd: “Pat it fast, maybe get a massage gun…try to stop breaking the skin. …I keloid, actually.” [05:23]

Why "Heated Rivalry" Resonates, Especially with Women

• TP explains straight women’s enthusiasm for the show:
  • “Heated Rivalry and specifically Ilya and Shane show a form of masculinity that really isn’t accessible to the straight woman. …Masculinity isn’t a thing to be compared to femininity. …It’s a vulnerable masculinity.” [12:51–13:54]
  • Syd: “Part of the problem is that people think masculinity is just them doing things that are strong, never crying, do not do a thing that resembles what a woman does typically…That doesn’t make sense.” [15:08]
• TP: “Women don’t want to fix men. …In Heated Rivalry you see men having vulnerable and open conversations with men and, therefore, men fixing men.” [17:00]

Boundaries in Relationships & Communication Tips

• Both discuss (with humorous but honest anecdotes) the burden of emotional labor in hetero relationships and societal expectations:
  • Women need to stop coddling men who don’t change; men will change when women enforce boundaries. [18:30–19:09]
  • “If humans just did a better job of communicating emotion and also not taking emotion as a direct attack…That is a me problem…I’m trying to express it to you.” – TP [19:09–21:32]
  • Don’t waste your energy fixing people who aren’t willing to make an effort. [22:40]
  • “You are likely not going to be able to fix another grown person who’s been stuck in their ways for X amount of years. You just gotta dip.” – Syd [23:09]

“Heated Rivalry” Cultural Impact

• Both surprised by their own emotional investment and how much impact the show made.
  • “Hockey. I’m unfamiliar with. Gay men, also unfamiliar with. I never thought that a show like this would make such a nice impact on my life.” – TP [23:28]

Golden Globes & Julia Roberts Tangent

• Funny debate about favorite white celebrity women (Syd’s: Julia Roberts & Sandra Bullock) [25:31], including a running bit on someday having dinner with Julia Roberts. [26:36]

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3. Women’s Pro Basketball: Unrivaled, AU, and Next-Gen Stars

Unrivaled League & Young Stars

• Syd & TP geek out over the next generation:
  • “Did you see Rakia and Paige, their team? They’re all like the young players…” – Syd [30:24]
  • Discuss being called “kids” by other teams, and Rakia’s response: “Yeah, we young but don’t try to, like, sun us. …Ain’t it more embarrassing to get beat by kids?” [31:45]
  • They reflect on the difference in pay/experience compared to their early careers. [32:17]

Game Breakdowns and Intriguing League Dynamics

• Recaps of major games:
  • “The last point of the Missed Laces game was… the most intense final possessions I feel like I’ve ever seen in my life.” – TP [34:15]
  • Dynamic of playing against your boss in Unrivaled: “You fouled your boss… The boss was shooting free throws. So that’s all I know.” – TP [35:52]
  • Bubble vibes, league culture, and inside jokes about players' off-court antics. [36:29–38:09]

Twerking & Team Bonding: Athlete Culture

• Striking moment: Derica’s 40-point game celebration and the flashback to team twerk classes led by Derica.
  • “We used to be getting ready for the game and we would have twerk classes and Derica led them for us.” – Syd [45:04]
  • Playful ribbing of audio listeners for missing out on the video of Derica’s celebratory moves. [46:28]
  • “Keep in mind, we won the championship that year. So we were doing everything to prepare ourselves for the game properly. Because, again, we won the championship.” – TP [46:49]

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4. Basketball Nostalgia: Growing Up Hooping

House Rules & Childhood Flexes

• Hilarious, in-depth debate about “21” — the universally played basketball game with “house rules” that no one can agree on.
  • “Everybody’s got a different set of rules, like Uno, spades… you gotta agree. Because you’re cheating as far as I’m concerned.” – Syd [49:49]
  • Breakdown of free throw sequences, tip-in rules, and regional quirks. [50:49–54:19]
  • Riffs about playing against boys, sibling rivalries (“My sister beat me 100 to 44 before I started crying.” – Syd [56:40]), and growing up competitive.

Sweet-tooth Memories and Young “Flexes”

• Tangent on concession stand snacks and retro candies:
  • Both declare blue Sour Punch Straws the GOAT [60:39]
  • “Nothing like a healthy candy chat after basketball talk.” – Syd [60:49]
  • Brief flexing about Under Armour, Allen Iverson finger sweatbands, and feeling “so cool” as kids. [61:41]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (w/Timestamps)

• “We say what we feel. Yeah, we say what we feel.” (Theme, [01:45])
• “You are beautiful because of it.” – TP, on eczema and scars [05:18]
• “Heated Rivalry…show(s) a form of masculinity that really isn’t accessible to the straight woman.” – TP [13:54]
• “Talking about your feelings is not feminine. That’s something that should be done for a healthy and emotionally intelligent person.” – Syd [16:29]
• “In Heated Rivalry, you see men having vulnerable and open conversations with men…Women don’t want to fix men.” – TP [17:00]
• “If humans just did a better job of like communicating emotion and also not taking emotion as a direct attack…That is a me problem.” – TP [21:09]
• “You are likely not going to be able to fix another grown person…You just gotta dip.” – Syd [23:09]
• “Five walked so six could run.” – TP [02:55]
• “Did you see Rakia and Paige, their team? …Don’t try to, like, sun us.” – Syd [30:24, 31:45]
• “It was the most intense final possessions … I feel like I’ve ever seen in my life.” – TP [34:15]
• “We used to be getting ready for the game and we would have twerk classes and Derica led them for us.” – Syd [45:04]
• “My sister beat me 100 to 44 before I started crying.” – Syd [56:40]
• “Blue.” (Sour Punch Straws, both at once, [60:39])
• “We just want to spread positivity and sometimes negativity when people deserve it.” – Syd [64:26]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:12] – Heated Rivalry TV show breakdown begins
• [04:10] – Eczema/keloid tangent
• [12:51] – Gender, masculinity, and why women love Heated Rivalry
• [18:30] – Communication & boundary-setting in relationships
• [23:28] – Personal impact of Heated Rivalry (and TV’s emotional power)
• [25:31] – Julia Roberts, celebrity crushes, and awards banter
• [30:24] – Women’s pro basketball, Unrivaled, generational change
• [45:04] – Team twerk classes, athlete bonding stories
• [49:49] – House rules of 21 and basketball nostalgia
• [56:40] – Sibling one-on-one memories
• [60:39] – Retro candy debate

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Tone & Style Highlights

• The dialogue is punchy, unfiltered, quick to jump topics (ADHD energy), and loaded with playful self-deprecation and mutual ribbing.
• Hosts alternate between heartfelt vulnerability, inside-athlete banter, and clowning each other (and the audience).
• Community is central: they always bring it back to their listeners (“babysitters”) and encourage sharing, feedback, and communal storytelling.

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For New & Returning Listeners

This episode epitomizes “Unsupervised’s” low-key, ping-pong energy—half group therapy, half locker room, half wild group chat, always a celebration of women’s basketball culture and queer joy. You’ll laugh, reflect, and (maybe) itch just thinking about eczema, but you’ll definitely come away feeling like part of the crew.

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Transcript

[Sid]

Wow. Hey, tb. Hey, babysitters.

[TP]

Hey, Sid. How we doing? What's up, babysitter?

[Sid]

I feel like we always just say, what's up, babysitters? But we never, like, address one another.

[TP]

Yeah, it's actually kind of rude of us if I'm thinking about it.

[Sid]

Yeah, okay.

[TP]

We don't address each other, but we do hold a conversation with each other for the next hour, so actually, that's probably diagnosable.

[Sid]

Anywho, so TP and I, we've been going longer without speaking in between episodes sometimes just so that we're excited to have more to say. So our outside friendship is deteriorating, and then we just.

[TP]

It's actually taking a huge beat.

[Sid]

All good, though.

[TP]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Cause what you didn't know is that.

[TP]

We'Re doing it for you guys, though.

[Sid]

I saw this thing on this weekend, and while I was in the movie, I was just like, I can't wait to record the pod. We have to talk about this. I didn't care whether or not you had seen it. Like, I'm going to tell you what happens in it and also the rest of you listening.

[TP]

Well, yeah.

[Sid]

Well, spoiler alert.

[TP]

That's awesome, Sid. I. I was having plumbing issues in my downstairs toilet, so I got a new toilet put in. And I didn't care what you had to say about that. I was going to talk about my. My new toilet that my dad installed. Thanks, dad, for that. Congrats also, as well.

[Sid]

Cool.

[TP]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

Hit the theme song.

[Sid]

Unsupervised.

[TP]

Unsupervised.

[Sid]

I had already started saying unsupervised, and then you started saying, and now it's off.

[TP]

Yeah, but there's a delay.

[Sid]

Okay. Yeah, we say what we feel and.

[TP]

Yeah, we say what we feel.

[Guest Rapper]

We looking down on haters. Cause they smaller than us and yeah, my flow is so damn sick, I be coughing it up. You said that we going flop. Well, then I'm calling your blood, man.

[TP]

What a song.

[Sid]

Yeah. Yeah. No, what a song, y'. All. We didn't finish our heated rivalry last episode, and we had to come back to it. I was. I think I was at episode five. Tp. Yeah.

[TP]

And I was at. You were like, I just finished episode two.

[Sid]

Yeah. So a lot has happened for you.

[TP]

A lot's happened. Oh, my God. So much has happened.

[Sid]

I just saw episode six. Now, everybody, mind you, everybody was telling me, you got to see episode five. Wait till it was episode five. Blah, blah. Five. Five. Five. Shut up about five. I like six better.

[TP]

Whoa.

[Sid]

Yeah, like, five. Five was cool. It was what it was. But, like, also, I saw that coming. I knew he was about to calm down. Did it stop it from being beautiful?

[TP]

Walked? No, it is five. So six could run.

[Sid]

No, because six. We needed the ending to. To their story. Like, that's the story that I wanted to see. They were irritating me at first, and then I'm like, all right, what's going to. Yeah, what's going to happen with y'? All?

[TP]

And they were very irritating.

[Sid]

I just. I like how they wrapped it like the parents were. They weren't terrible about it. I knew the dad was going to act like nothing happened because men. And I loved how Ilya was just like, yeah, you want me to go in there with you? Like, he didn't care at all. He was very chill about it.

[TP]

Also, his, like, language barrier. He was, like, unintentionally increasing, like, the. The level of where their relationship was at by using the term lovers with the parents. And Shane was like, whoa, nobody says that anymore. That's, like, when parents used to call, like, Hickey's passion marks. One time. I have eczema. I had a rash on my neck.

[Sid]

I have eczema, too.

[TP]

Passion mark. I was like, ew. A passion mark Sounds absolutely disgusting.

[Sid]

That I would never Than a passion mark.

[TP]

I'd rather have eczema. I'd be like, I need to get some ointment.

[Sid]

Oh, my gosh. But I have eczema, too. Do we know that?

[TP]

I didn't know that you had eczema.

[Sid]

Well, mine's.

[TP]

I think my eczema is pretty obvious.

[Sid]

I think it's always dormant under the skin, even when it's not, like, visible. Is. Is there. Ready to react to something. Put the wrong thing on me. Like when we went to. Oh. After the championship, when we went to. To Cabo, the water. The water made me break out. Remember my eggs? Like, I have bumps all over and stuff. I get it here. Here behind my knees used to get dark because of it. That was really the only places. And my little nephew has eczema. Shout out to you, sj.

[TP]

I mean, I said my elbow. My armpit. Like, when you run.

[Sid]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My armpit would rub, man. Well, comment in this post. If y' all got eczema, Team eczema. Do a little and what your favorite moisturizer is, right? Put either a little lotion in the comments or a little. If there's a little way to show us emoji. But we're with y'. All. Y' all mean the world to us. We see you Itching and scratching. Just don't break this.

[TP]

You're beautiful because of it as well.

[Sid]

You are beautiful because of it.

[TP]

Get down to a path. Use your knuckles if you have to.

[Sid]

Pat it fast, get. Maybe get a massage gun and don't have anybody else use it, so maybe it doesn't spread or anything, but try to stop breaking the skin. That scratching is not good. Then you're gonna scar. I scar badly and I keloid, actually. Oh, so my ACL scars. They both.

[TP]

Your ACL scar looks nice.

[Sid]

Yeah, one of them.

[TP]

Oh, okay.

[Sid]

So that one. See that one?

[TP]

Oh, yeah.

[Sid]

You want to zoom.

[TP]

It's like that's what makes you unique and beautiful.

[Sid]

No, it's not a lot of people. Keloid. Okay, so, yeah, that's from my. My lesson knee. And then, yeah, my most recent, y'. All.

[TP]

For audio, she's actually. She's physically standing up and showing us. No, don't tell them.

[Sid]

That's on them. If by now they haven't gone to listen to watch us on YouTube, then that's on them. You just don't get to see my keloid scarlet.

[TP]

Yeah, you're really missing out audio. Imagine trying to frame that as. Hustle over to YouTube and make sure you get on that. There's a lot to see here.

[Sid]

You know what? But stranger things have happened. I wonder if people have keloid fetishes.

[TP]

Oh, check your DMs in, like, two weeks, see if we get anything. We're not short of sponsors, but we could use some personal, like, side income with a keloid fetish.

[Sid]

I know.

[TP]

How do I get the keywords we were talking about unrivaled. I mean, sorry, the other gay. The other gay thing on TV right now. He did rivalry. That's on me.

[Sid]

Yeah, we were talking about heated rivalry.

[TP]

And we got to Keloiding somehow. But this is what it's like to live in an ADD brain. That's normal thought processes. Four people in the ADHD community. So you're welcome for giving you a little insight on that.

[Sid]

Her is the only dating app actually built for Sapphics by Sapphics.

[TP]

Perfect for winter restart season.

[Sid]

I don't know the cold like I like the cold, though I do like the cold sometimes because it's just. It's time to, you know, sit inside, chill, you know, be with your partner or friends. But it's also great if you don't have those things to get on her. We've talked about it so many times before, but it's just genuine way. A genuine way to find real community. You know, find friends or like minded people to hang out with and maybe, you know, it turns into something more. But I just feel like it's worth that. It's worth that risk. Like you don't have anything to lose. Like if you're looking for community right now, which some dark times I'm sure we all are. We all are in some way. And her is more than just dating. It's a real chance for you to get a moment to find people who are like you and build real queer community.

[TP]

Maybe you can find community. Maybe you can find friendship. Maybe you want to talk about heated rivalry and no one in your current friend group wants to talk about it. Head over to the her app. Yeah, you can build friends, find like minded people. Find people that are all in there for the right reasons and good intentions in a safe space for. For you and what you would be looking for in a inclusive space.

[Sid]

No, well put, well put. Try her this winter. It's sapphic restart season.

[TP]

But yeah, so now we're back.

[Sid]

Six was better than five to me. I still, I still liked five. Really, really, really cute. I like that he called him down, but no way that that's how that reception was for that audience at a hockey game.

[TP]

Yeah. I don't great to the filmmakers and producers keeping the crowd, you know, keeping the moment high. Yeah, I did, you know, it was a very emotional moment. I did cry but I am a crier.

[Sid]

Me too.

[TP]

And stuff. It did make me, it did make me cry. But it was just so sweet. And something that I found like extra endearing is on TikTok. There's been a lot of like straight women posting their husband's reactions to this moment and it's been taken so well by obviously confident men that are secure in who they are, that can see that love is love and they are appreciating two men having a moment of love on one of the biggest stages, you know.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

In sport, in the world. So shout out to all the. All the wives putting their husbands on tick tock. I really enjoyed seeing all these straight men like have like just sweet emotions towards.

[Sid]

It's nice seeing the show straight men open up for these gay guys.

[TP]

Wow. I just got that one. That was a lot seed.

[Sid]

That's what he said.

[TP]

And that's a heated rivalry joke. Oh wow. So I will say that I did also enjoy episode six.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

I really enjoyed the whole thing. Like the sex scenes became like less and less like.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

Prominent in my brain because like there was just more behind it that you understood, like the desire there and like the. The want for one another. It wasn't just like mindless sex. Like you could actually see the build up to them having sex. And it's not just like a. Yeah.

[Sid]

Cause this was like the first time they could be alone and like just. Just them not trying to hide from other people. You just being yourself finally, like, they're laying out by the fire, they're making food and just hanging out, like stuff that they couldn't do before. So to finally see them in an element where you don't have to worry about, like, who's in the next room, like, who's looking. But I was waiting for, like paparazzi to be like, when they were in the water, there was a house back there on the lake. I was just waiting for like paparazzi to show up and get them. Because I feel like if they're the hottest two players, like you might. And he was dating the rose girl, like somebody might have been watching y' all or following, especially if you were spotted at the airport showing up in Canada.

[TP]

But I feel like there's definitely been a picture of like Justin Bieber at that same cabin in the woods, like taken by paparazzi. So it's kind of surprising that they didn't have paparazzi fellow. But, you know, I love it for them. I love that they got to have their story and share their moment. And what I love more than anything is to bring it into the next point of why I love heated rivalry so much. And there's this massive wave of really every. Every demographic of woman appreciating this show. And the demographic that I want to speak on is the straight woman appreciating this show.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

So for straight women, you're watching this show, and the overwhelming joy that came out of this show that you're sharing with your friends, that you're posting on social media has to come from something. So let's get down into why. Okay. And so I'm just going to start off with this first point that I think that heated rivalry, a heated rivalry, and specifically Ilya and Shane show a form of masculinity that really isn't accessible to the straight woman. It's a form of masculinity that you don't need a woman in the picture to be masculine. Masculinity isn't a thing to be compared to femininity. Masculinity in and of itself is a thing. And you don't need women around you. You don't need anything to pull that out of you. And I think this was the purest form of masculinity that you can find. And also a vulnerable masculinity from also a Russian man who, outside of the fact that he's a big time athlete, seems to be very. Maybe it's a language barrier or. Or maybe it's the fact that he's closeted. I don't really know. But he's not a big sharer. Maybe it was his upbringing with his parents and the way that his dad was to his mom and the loss of his mom and that whole situation. But it's really interesting to see that someone who is really unopened to sharing outside the fact, outside of the scene where he called Shane after his dad's funeral, who's like complained to him underneath that little bridge and he told him, Shane exactly how he felt over the phone in Russian. That's the only time that he felt comfortable actually expressing himself up to this.

[Sid]

Point where he couldn't understand him.

[TP]

Correct. And then Shane was like the recipient of. Shane had no idea probably what was being said, but he could feel that Ilya needed to actually get this off of his chest and say this piece, whether he could understand it or not. Yeah. And I just think that you see two guys that deeply care for one another and also embrace what it. What it looks like to have a vulnerable masculine figure.

[Sid]

Part of the issue with how men and how society has agreed that masculinity needs to be displayed, like part of the problem is that this is a societal construct. Like masculinity can encompass things that we usually attribute to femininity. That's part of the problem that people think masculinity is just them doing things that are strong, never crying. Do not do a thing that resembles what a woman does typically. And it's like, that doesn't make sense because as you could see in their element in a homosexual relationship between two men, you can see what, even if one of them were more flamboyant, you would still see like, that a person can show several emotions. You can be several different things. And it's not about the opposite gender being present. It's nothing to like perform about. Cause they were outside playing, like kicking the ball, like being rough, like doing that. But they're laying down on each other's laps by the fire and, you know, revealing things about yourself that you haven't yet, or just feeling more vulnerable. Like these are just human qualities. Literally talking about your feelings is not feminine. That's a thing that should be done for like a healthy and emotionally intelligent person.

[TP]

That's a human being.

[Sid]

That's just a human. So I think a big part of the problem is what we put on masculinity and femininity. Somebody will for sure say, shut up, dyke, in the comments or something, but, you know, it's true.

[TP]

Yeah, we know about both, actually, so you shut up.

[Sid]

But yeah, some of us are more.

[TP]

Of a man than you'll ever be, sir. And that, and also this brings, like, me to this next point. Like, I just feel like women also are enjoying this show because it's not a woman's responsibility to help men find these things within themselves. Women don't want to fix men. Women are also exhausted from each and every heterosexual plot of a woman either fixing a man or being able to tolerate what the man's not bringing to the table. But in heated rivalry, you see men having vulnerable and open conversation with men and therefore like men fixing men. And it's, it's. Women can detach themselves from like the exhaustion of having to be that role in a man's life.

[Sid]

Yeah, I, I do think it's also necessary for us to, to touch on because obviously we mess with straight, like, with men a lot. Like, we rag on men a lot. Part of the responsibility too, though, is for women to stop doing these things. Like accepting that some women, they must enjoy that role because they stay in it for a super long time. Even when somebody is showing that they're not like, changing the things that you're trying to teach them. Like, you coddle these men a lot of the times. And I don't know, I think, I think enough isn't said about how it's like, it's both parties. The problem of both parties. If women didn't put up with this, like, guess what? Men would start to change and vice versa. Like, a lot of the problems with each sec. With each gender, if majority of women put their foot down, a man would start to change because you would see the type of women that you want are no longer wanting you. They're not going for what you're doing. But there's always another woman. No matter how many women tried to teach a man before he can be a dog. And that six woman you knew even when you knew about the other five, I'm going, give it a go. I think you're different.

[TP]

Right. Sometimes it's just the personality trait. And also with that, like, I do think that we in society today have a problem with just simple communication. We've Come into a place. And we've talked, touched on this in other episodes where people think that a simple like, like on Instagram is your way of like keeping up with people, when in reality that you're just stalking really, like, let's think about it. You're, you're approving a stock, you are watching them from a distance, you think you're keeping up with them from a distance, but really you're low key. A peeping Tom. That's fine, it's legal. But I think that there needs to be a level of communication that needs to be had. And this is across all genders, all ages, etc. I think that if we, if humans just did a better job of like communicating emotion and also not taking emotion as a direct attack, I can feel some kind of way about you without attacking you. I'm just telling you how I'm receiving this and it's a me problem and I'm trying to express it to you that, so that together we can work out whatever this problem is through communication. But that's when communication gets escalated. It turns into an argument and people aren't seeing both sides when really like feelings. And sometimes it does feel like an attack. I think we're all kind of guilty of someone saying that you made them feel some kind of way. And your guilt or like whatever, even if you didn't mean to do it, has you being combative and defensive in some kind of way. And I think that especially in your relationship. The relationship that I seek is one of constant communication. Because if you're not in community and I'm not talking about texting all day long, like, what's up? What are you up to, who you with type of stuff. I'm talking about real deep connection that you actually get to know the person through and through and you care enough about them to understand what the person you know will be able to digest, what they'll be able to take from the situation and what you, you know, will turn off that, turn on that switch and have them have a reaction like, you know.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

Or if you don't know, you probably shouldn't be with that person because there's been a lot that it's missed.

[Sid]

Yeah, I saw somebody talking about like, because basically if you, yeah, if you communicate with your partner or a friend, family member, and you're, you're clearly communicating like your messages coming across crystal clear, there should be no problem understanding. But if somebody's like either committed to misunderstanding or if they don't start to work on the thing because Sometimes it could be something that you don't feel is a big deal about you, but the person you're with or that you're affecting is letting you know how it makes them feel. Now, can people be tripping sometimes? Yeah. But you should always be able to assess, like, when that conversation is done. Okay, is this reasonable what they said? Now, if it was reasonable, someone keeps on like, or you don't see strides being taken to change. The message that I saw was, like, you know, you think about how long it takes to change yourself. Like, when you have a bad habit and there's something that you need to fix, how much time does that take? So if somebody is, like, not trying to understand you intentionally or not making strides to change that, you can see, like, little strides at a time, it might be time to move around. Like, you might need to exit stage left because you know how much time it takes for you to fix yourself. You are likely not going to be able to fix another grown person who's been stuck in their ways for X amount of years. Like, you just got to dip.

[TP]

Like, you got to save your inner peace.

[Sid]

Yeah. What? I'm not raising another.

[TP]

You have to know when to keep fighting and know when to bounce. Right.

[Sid]

100.

[TP]

It's just interesting, though, because I. I never thought that this. First of all, hockey. I'm unfamiliar with gay men, also unfamiliar with. I never thought that a show like this would make, you know, such a nice impact on my life. And I really ended up enjoying.

[Sid]

You.

[TP]

Know, this first season of Heated Rivalry. I saw that it was, like, made off of a book and there's like, I guess a few books or something. So, yeah, I think a season two is to be expected. But, you know, I really enjoyed watching it. So thanks again for letting me use your HBO login. And don't kick me off because I'm gonna keep using that resource.

[Sid]

Yeah, you're welcome.

[TP]

Oh, yeah.

[Sid]

Unbelievable.

[TP]

Yeah, it really is.

[Sid]

But yeah, that was. That was.

[TP]

I can't believe I haven't asked you sooner for that login. That's what friends are for.

[Sid]

Okay, so did you have more about heated rivalry or you feel. Not.

[TP]

I think I feel pretty good about heated robbery.

[Sid]

Yeah. Did you see. Oh, did you see them at the. At the Golden Globes?

[TP]

No, I saw a post of them with the Golden Globes.

[Sid]

Huh?

[TP]

I saw a post of them with the Golden Globes. Oh, like, they dressed so nicely.

[Sid]

Yeah, yeah. They look sharp. They're funny. One of them was. Ilya was taking shots with IO Adibri from The bit, you know, you watch the bear or what's the other movie? Okay, well, shame on you. But she's. She's also in the hunt with Julia Roberts, which we need to see. And Julia Roberts, who you know, I love, first of all. Yeah, the probably my top two white women in the world, Julia Roberts and Sandra Bullock.

[TP]

Those are probably nice.

[Sid]

Yeah, those are probably.

[TP]

There's no other white women that you're fond of and that you would put in your top white women in the world? That's actually hella crazy.

[Sid]

Oh, I'm talking about actresses. Like, celebrities.

[TP]

Okay.

[Sid]

Celebrities. All right, well, you're both, I guess.

[TP]

I'm also an actress. I literally did a show with you.

[Sid]

Dude.

[TP]

I'm gonna. Did I show up, reconsider my friendship with sis?

[Sid]

But Julia Roberts.

[TP]

No, I get it. That's a good, too.

[Sid]

Yeah. We need to have an episode just dedicated to Julia Roberts. I'll just host it. Honestly. You just show up and.

[TP]

No, we'll just call her up.

[Sid]

But anyways, Julia Roberts was being interviewed, and she was like, yeah, I had dinner. She was like, I love IO. Like, had dinner with her last night. And I, like, threw my body back on the couch. Marty was like. Like, she's living the life. I want. I want to go to dinner with Julia Roberts last night. But I didn't.

[TP]

You missed your opportunity. But you will be able to. I really do feel like you'll have a dinner with Julia Roberts at some point. Like, okay, we're going to speak this into existence.

[Sid]

Oh, yeah.

[TP]

And, Julia, if you're watching this girl, please consider, you know, even if it's a coffee.

[Sid]

Okay, So I actually have a Julia.

[TP]

Roberts in my family. Her name is Aunt Beth, and.

[Sid]

Oh, yeah.

[TP]

Why? She isn't Julia. She does heavily favor Julia.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

And she has, like. Like brownish black hair. Julia. Not like the blonde, red, whatever she was going with last night, but, like the darker hair. She looks a lot like my Aunt Beth. Yeah, I think, like, Runaway Broad, too.

[Sid]

Runaway Bride.

[TP]

Yeah. Runaway Bride. Julia Roberts is my aunt.

[Sid]

Not Aaron Brockovich.

[TP]

No.

[Sid]

Yeah. I love Aaron Brockovich so much.

[TP]

Hey, Sid. You know what brings me joy? Having my protein ready and available in the form of premier protein drinks. They are ready to go. Absolutely. Excellent. And the taste, top tier. And I've had a lot of protein shakes in my life.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

So, Sid, I know you've been in the situations where you've just been in the hustle and bustle, and your whole day just becomes one big blur. Before you know it, you realize you didn't eat breakfast. You need lunch. You're just going.

[Sid]

That's so many days for me.

[TP]

That's every day for me. Besides Sundays, I do take time to watch the Saints. Other than that, I'm on the go constantly. When I'm walking my dogs, nothing easier than to grab a protein drink from Premier Protein. I'm walking, drinking, walking my dogs. But it's so easy and convenient. And you don't have to. You don't have to. Remember, you can just pack your thing in the morning and it's there all day. And you'll thank yourself later in the day for having that ready and available for you.

[Sid]

Yeah, for mine, I'm just always, like, going from thing to thing. Like, I'm going from rehab to maybe like, a conversation with our sports psychologist to another meeting to something else. And then like you said, a couple hours later, I'm like, oh, I haven't eaten. Especially after a workout, which is the worst. But having these shakes with me, having Premier protein shakes with me, chocolate specifically, has been a huge difference. Because with 30 grams of protein and tons of delicious flavors, Premier protein isn't just for those who get after fitness. It's for those who get after life. Tp and you already knew that.

[TP]

But, Sid, there's no better way to get 30 grams of protein in a single drink. 30 grams of protein is equivalent to eating five large eggs.

[Sid]

Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, thank you for that tidbit. Okay. All right, so he did rivalry. All right, we're done with it. Saw somebody say he did unrivalery online for unrivaled. Something happened and they were, like, heated. Unrivalery. Did you watch the games? You able to?

[TP]

Yeah. I'm so excited that women's pro basketball is back.

[Sid]

I know, right?

[TP]

I just love the pro game and, you know, being able to have, like, these unrivaled and AU starting up really soon. Y coming on. It's just. It's a good time. It feels good in the air. It's like, yeah, it's about time this happened the world. So. But yeah, I was checking out some of the games.

[Sid]

Okay. So did you see. Did you see Rakia and Paige, their team? They're. What's Aries Team Breeze. Their team is. Is like all, like, the young players pretty much. I think is. Yeah, it's airy.

[TP]

Rakia Paige. Rakia, Cameron Brink, Malunga and Kate Martin. Okay.

[Sid]

Our girl Kate. So, like, that's their group. And I guess in other games in the first week or Something people were calling them kids. I don't remember who they were playing. We need to go see. So we could try to find out who was probably saying it. Or I'll just DM or key actually and ask. But they. You know, they're calling them kids or saying something to the ref is what it sounded like in one of the videos. I forgot which one of them said it. But, like, they were telling the refs, no way. These kids getting that call. And they were like, you know, when the ball goes up, like, it's not about, like, what does it matter our age? And I think Rakia was like, you know, especially if we. We're winning. Like, she was like, you know, we. We young. Yeah, we young, but don't try to, like, sun us. Like, right? We young and turn. We young and got money. She started rattling off stuff that I'm like, well, that doesn't change age. But I hear you. I hear you. She basically saying, don't. Don't try to treat us like regular young.

[TP]

Yeah, right.

[Sid]

Hello, youngins. That's it. We're not nobody but kids. Daughters, nieces, y' all not stunning us young and turned young with money. Young and fun, all that y' all want. Ds. They keep calling us kids, but ain't it more embarrassing to get beat by kids? Right? They're not young. Like, when we came in the league making $25,000. Can't really be talking. You're kind of like, yeah, like, rookies. Rookie's my name. I guess.

[TP]

Like, you're still trying to, like, scrape up, like, extra change to pay off your, like, parking tickets that you got in college. And they won't send you your diploma, and so you paid those off, and.

[Sid]

You'Re like, yo, I think I don't have my diploma. I looked in the thing one time when I was home, and. And I was like, mama, do you have my diploma? No way. But then, yeah, I think there was a letter in there. I don't know what I have to do for it, but it sounds like me. I used to have, like.

[TP]

But you earned it, though. It's yours.

[Sid]

Yeah, it is. So if anybody else. What do you need with it? But anyways, yeah, being young now is different than when we entered the league, so that's hilarious. But I was waiting for their game today, but, I mean, their game last night, but before that game. I don't remember the team names, but I think it was. It was missed. I think that's, like, Arique, Stewie. Like, their. I think that's Their team versus the.

[TP]

Laces, which is Jackie.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

At.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

Maddie. Secret.

[Sid]

Okay. No. Tiffany. There's.

[TP]

There's kind of a few people. Okay. So this is, this is my thing about unrivaled. I think it's so cool. It like the three on three element. The game's like really fast. And what I really love about the unrivaled game is the fourth quarter and there's no like real set time. There's just like a set score. And the last point of the missed Laces game was the most intense, like, you can't even say like minute of the game because it wasn't a minute. It was just like the most intense final possessions I feel like I've ever seen in my life. And for all those who just turned.

[Sid]

Into like fight Club, I feel like I was so worried for everybody. My knee was like, you aching.

[TP]

You, like sat there like on edge, just waiting to see what happened. The refs were just kind of inconsistent in this game as well. So you didn't know like what was going to be called and what wasn't going to be called. And there was just like so much going on. The mist come down, they score a two so that now both teams are in game winning position with just a two point bucket.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

The Laces come down, they don't score. The miss comes back down and Stewie goes to the basket and at goes to play defense and block her shot, but just like hits her with it. At immediately turns around, starts yelling at the refs. The Laces benches behind At. They look exhausted and exacerbated by the fact that this was called. Everybody's complaining. They then cut to all of their bosses who is about to shoot a free throw. And Sui looks calm as hell at this free throw line, knowing she shoots like 90% from the free throw line on her career, like she's about to make these and win. But it was crazy. The concept was crazy to me that I'm watching this and I'm like, okay, you fouled your boss. You're complaining to the Revs, who's also.

[Sid]

That's their.

[TP]

Their boss to be the boss of them as well. The boss was shooting free throws. So that's all I know. And I'm like, so how does that go?

[Sid]

So I'm a.

[TP]

And if like you get in trouble, do you get called into the boss's office as a peer or as a coach?

[Sid]

I don't know. I just love the dynamic because it's like you're not really like talking shit. I Guess after the game, like, you're mad. But it's also like, hey, thanks for starting this league, though.

[TP]

Like, hey, yeah. Like, we didn't have any other forms of income until this. So that, like, really? Thanks.

[Sid]

They were like, yeah, we're.

[TP]

But also, like, that wasn't a foul and you know it. No, it also. It also is given, like, bubbles. I wonder if they're having, like, bubble types energies going on there. Oh, I bet I'm not there. I'm clearly here. But it is very entertaining to watch and I love to create storylines in my head which are. Yeah, but they're actually real. No, it's not like WWE and they're making up these storylines. Like. No, that is actually the case in every person's.

[Sid]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[TP]

Standpoint.

[Sid]

No, I'm. I'm guessing they're definitely bubble dynamics or, you know, people aren't trapped, though. You don't have to stay inside those parameters, which a lot of people didn't do in the bubble. I started naming names. Yeah.

[TP]

So leaving the bubble, we heard a lot of you guys weren't actually keeping it safe. That's fine. We all made it through that time and to name a few. Could you imagine?

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

People should be a little nervous that we have a mic, though.

[Sid]

They 100 the day and some people don't even know what I have on them. So everybody just needs to tread lightly. Like, what all y' all need to.

[TP]

Know is that we pay attention. And if you did something, we probably saw it anyway. We're going to keep that between us until we get a big book deal or, like, something to make a movie out of these situations. Unless there's like, yeah, unless it's worth it.

[Sid]

Wait five years.

[TP]

We got y'.

[Sid]

All. We got you.

[TP]

I said we got y'.

[Sid]

All. Like, some people will wait, too. The people who do, like WBA fan fiction. Some of that shit is entertaining. Marty was like, I think I'm gonna start my own. I'm like, she would be hilarious. She should. Yeah. Like, the stuff that people say. Like, oh, what don't you say, Sid? They ask, like, what unhinged stuff I don't tweet or say on here. Yeah, I'm still not gonna tell you on here. I'm not gonna say it until I'm being paid a lot of money to say it. Like, but there's so much of enough.

[TP]

Rapport and not get canceled yet. Like, yeah, those jokes aren't for everybody.

[Sid]

We're just having fun.

[TP]

And also, I don't say those Jokes. I say nothing inappropriate. Number ones have.

[Sid]

You don't. But we're just having fun right now. No, but at the same time, people be nervous. Okay, so at the end of that game. At the end of that game, obviously, all of that happened, but the Rose and Breeze played last night, so I was. We were both wanting to see the game, um, because I think Rose was undefeated. Maybe they both were undefeated, but that's what Chelsea, Kah, Azare, Sutton. Who are their other. Shakira.

[TP]

Shakira Austin.

[Sid]

And I'm missing one. Lexi Hall. Duh. Hi, Lex. Um, so that's their team, and we already named who was on the breeze. Like the Youngins. And so I was like, oh, this one's gonna be good. So that one also went. It was like. It was close toward the end, and then those pulled away. It was close for a minute, though. And then maybe it ended up being like, seven or something like that, I thought. But it was a good game. Dierka had 40 in the game after Rose and Breeze. And I was watching that game, and I'm thinking that was high vinyl. So I'm watching the high vinyl game, and I'm like. Because what Chelsea just maybe had, like, 35, 37, I think in the game.

[TP]

Before, there was a few people that had, like, high 30 games.

[Sid]

High 30s.

[TP]

This first week at AU. Yeah, like, really awesome performances.

[Sid]

De Erica pulls a.

[TP]

And here comes De Erica, her ass running the floor.

[Sid]

Hearts, yo. These motor is nuts, though. So d gets the 40 piece, and I'm just cracking up watching her interview, like, afterwards, because Dee's always on the verge of either, like, smiling or crying. There's really no in between. Like, she's either holding her mouth like she's about to laugh, or she's blocking her face because her eyes are well.

[TP]

Enough holding back tears.

[Sid]

I'm like, oh, my gosh, girl, you feel a lot. But D. She did her interview, and then she.

[TP]

And then her teammates had a.

[Sid]

No, but the pin.

[TP]

She signs a pin.

[Sid]

The pin. The pin first. The pin.

[TP]

And the pin worked.

[Sid]

It worked. Which was hilarious because a couple days before Plums team won. She goes to write on the. You want to describe?

[TP]

She goes to write. She, like, takes off the pen cap, and it's a. It's a paint pen. Like, everyone can see that. It's like, chalk white. Like, there is no pen on that. And also, I love when things. Awkward moments happen to Kelsey. It's hilarious to me.

[Sid]

She.

[TP]

She navigates them so hilariously because there was no. There was no mystery to the mind. You saw that whole thing play out. Kelsey got the pen. She popped the cap. It was stark white. She goes to white. She looks at it. It's not working. She's having dialogue that's muted with people. Then she goes to write again. She starts, like, banging it on the camera. Still not working. After some time over probably 38 seconds of time, Marty was like, she has to push it.

[Sid]

She has to push it. Trying to culture through it.

[TP]

We're all rooting her. Rooting for her to get this pen.

[Sid]

I'm like, betting on it, on editing. I'm, like, betting on if Kelsey's pen is gonna finally write. It never does. So then a black lady walks up, and I'm like, oh, a black woman's coming to help. I hope it works. So they said, if you ever need help, find a black woman. So she comes over. I'm like, okay, yeah, she's gonna get it for sure. She gets it, pushes it down her skin. Not working.

[TP]

Absolutely nothing. The. Which is like, the point of this next story as well. The editing choices in this, they just gave up. Cut it off, right? We never actually got to see Kelsey sign the camera. It was hilarious, but I'm sure a letdown, but absolutely hysterical. I can't reiterate that enough. It cracked me up. I was so every time she checked the pen to see. Still see that it was chalk white. Which brings us to Dereka's celebration. She gets the pen. It works. She signs it. She then looks to her team, who then starts spraying her with water bottles. And in the history of sport, you see a lot of people get celebrated with water bottles getting thrown. There's been some questionable responses. Chris Bosch.

[Sid]

Oh, Chris Bosh for sure. Wait, do you.

[TP]

And also Dea. So without further ado, do you want.

[Sid]

To be Derica or am I?

[TP]

No, you can be Derica.

[Sid]

Okay.

[TP]

Woo. Mep. And for audio.

[Sid]

No, that's on them. If they didn't see this for audio.

[TP]

Yeah, that was on you. Like, I don't even have it in me to describe what took place.

[Sid]

When I tell you I'm in. In. I'm in my apartment. Me and M are in there, and I'm watching De Erica. I'm like.

[TP]

But this was an editing choice. Like, it was Derica's choice to celebrate in that way.

[Sid]

100%.

[TP]

But it was also the production choice scene. That content.

[Sid]

Like, what? Unrivaled After Dark. I'm like, what are we watching? This is insane. Dierica.

[TP]

But, you know, insanely, insanely. What's the Word I'm looking for here. Entertaining.

[Sid]

Entertaining. De Erica going. De Erica. One thing about it, you remember. I know you remember because I told you.

[TP]

I think I know what you're about to say. I do think I know what you're about to say.

[Sid]

When De Erica used to lead our. This is like four games in 2022. We used to be getting ready for the game and we would have twerk classes and Derica led them for us.

[TP]

Led by Derica. Led by Derica. And some of the things being asked were like very difficult for, you know, anybody. It wasn't for beginners. I would say like there were some moves that were for beginners and that everyone could participate in. And there were some things that were like really, really just for like the experienced, you know, sector of people that can roll your body in such way.

[Sid]

We'll just say this. These DE's from Atlanta. So she's doing all the fun moves, but I'm trying to see how much of the video we should. We should show them. We can give them like a 10 second snippet. So now audio. You see how I barely address y'? All? Like, yes, grateful for y' all listening, but at the same time you don't want. I just don't understand. You don't want to see too. You don't want to see us. We would see you if we could see you, but you just never want to see us. I don't get it.

[TP]

I'm typically on audio side, but I do understand.

[Sid]

Yeah, like that.

[TP]

You definitely want to see this.

[Sid]

Yeah, you'll want to see this. So you gotta go to YouTube so you can see this clip. And this is one of like probably 10 I have in my phone. I mean we were doing this at pretty much every awake. Often a lot of home games. KP was.

[TP]

And also if everyone's coming with us, y' all play too much. Keep in mind, we won the championship that year. So we were doing everything to prepare ourselves for the game properly because again, we won the championship.

[Sid]

Can't stress it enough.

[TP]

No, can't stress that enough.

[Sid]

That was hilarious. But the game, the games were good and that was interesting.

[TP]

The games were really good.

[Sid]

So I'm looking forward to shoot. We leave in like a week for Nashville. So that'll be. Yeah, that'll be fun.

[TP]

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[Sid]

Okay, more basketball talk. TP. All right. I said okay. I sent TP a video. There's this game called 21. If you play basketball like you know what it is, because you just play it growing up and you play it with teammates, friends, whatever, on a court. But everybody's got a different set of rules, like Uno, spades, you know, like, people go by different rules. Like, what's allowed here may not be allowed somewhere else. So then we gotta agree. But it's usually funny because it's happening in the moment. You're assuming they view they play the same way. And then they're like, no, that don't count. You gotta go behind the three point line. It's like, what? I've never played like that. Yeah, well, you've never played like that. I played like that. So let's establish some rules, because you're cheating as far as I'm concerned.

[TP]

Yeah.

[Sid]

Okay, so.

[TP]

And there's a lot of house rules going on.

[Sid]

A lot of them.

[TP]

Yeah, I'm about to watch this before I start commenting. Hold on. Yo, I'll play 21.

[Sid]

Yeah, let's do it. All right, what's the rules?

[TP]

21 anal rules. All right, Bet you break bet.

[Sid]

Hold on, hold on, hold up. Half court. Oh, everybody knows you break at half court. That's three, bro. We playing ones and twos.

[TP]

How you get three?

[Sid]

The first basket, though, is three points. Said there was no rules. No, bro, it's ones and twos the whole game after the first basket.

[TP]

This video is actually bringing back memory, Bringing back a lot of memories.

[Sid]

It did for me, too.

[TP]

Okay, so let's break these down one by one.

[Sid]

Yeah. Like, I'm so glad that I saw it. This. This was my guy Brian's story. And I'm like, I'm so glad I saw this because I haven't thought about, like, I haven't played 21 in such a long time, but used to play it all the time. 21 was like, let's go outside and play 21. Like, yeah, that was just an everyday.

[TP]

You could have any number of people. It did get. It did get harder with more people there.

[Sid]

Crowded.

[TP]

It got really hard when more people there. But 21 was the move to make. And also there were some of these rules that depending on what my friend group was, I was very comfortable playing either or. Like, I had friend groups that you shot until you miss. And then I had the three and out. What did you play?

[Sid]

I played three and out a lot because we were just like, no, you're not about to be able to just win this whole thing from shoot. Okay, you can make these unguarded. Cool. Like, you got to have somebody D you up again. This is crazy. Like, the game will be boring that way. If we just sit here and watch you watch every person do that. Okay. I hope you can make like 10 straight uncontested. Cool. Make three and let's get back to hooping. Like, what are we doing?

[TP]

So it got boring when you were just standing around for so long and somebody was. I'm like, this isn't even the game. We can play knockout for this. Right?

[Sid]

Right. We could just play every camp with little kids and just knockout. They love it.

[TP]

Knockout.

[Sid]

Yeah. I'm like, mine was three and out. And the part about the tip ins, I was like, I think when we used to do tip ins, if you had like, if you had 15 or something, I don't remember. It was if it was them going back or you got their points, like, you could get their points. Say I had three, somebody had 15. I could get 18. I think maybe that one we might have been pulling stuff out. Like, we might have just been making stuff up to make it more interesting, but yeah, that was one way. We didn't shoot from half court though. Like maybe for fun.

[TP]

We didn't start from half court.

[Sid]

It was three point line. You.

[TP]

You shot for the ball. Yeah, three point line.

[Sid]

And it didn't count. It just. You just. You shot for ball.

[TP]

Yeah. Facts. But also. So we played on the tip in. We didn't play the tip in rule for the entirety of the game. But if you tip somebody's point, that would have been their 21st point. They would have to go back down to like 13 or something. Like.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

If you got tipped in on your game winning point, you would have to.

[Sid]

Yeah, yeah. If you were on 20.

[TP]

No, no. If you were about to get 21.

[Sid]

Okay, 19.

[TP]

And if you couldn't exactly get 21.

[Sid]

Yeah, you gotta land on.

[TP]

Then you also had to go back down that one. So some people weren't like scoring and intentionally missing their 19. What would be their 19th point on the free throw so that they could just get a 2 in the real game.

[Sid]

And people would be mad. People like he was mad in a video. He's like, you gotta shoot a regular. No, I don't. I can make my form be whatever I want it to be because either way I'm intending on missing. You can't tell me how to miss.

[TP]

Yeah. But also, hot take. That was a free throw violation because he didn't touch the rim.

[Sid]

Oh, before.

[TP]

So I do feel like you do need to hit the rim. You could do that. You can miss intentionally, but you can't just hit all backboard. That isn't even. Yeah, that shouldn't be a thing.

[Sid]

No, no.

[TP]

That's such an advantage.

[Sid]

Agree. Because it's gotta hit.

[TP]

You can intentionally miss, but it's hard to intentionally miss if you have to touch the rim.

[Sid]

Okay, so we're on the same page about that one.

[TP]

And then there was same page about that.

[Sid]

So it was three point line tippings going back to either tipping on the game point, tip on the game point. That might have been everything. But it just, it took me back to when I feel like there was.

[TP]

One more rule that you would get deducted if this happened to you. Like it. You wouldn't have to go back to zero, but you would have to go.

[Sid]

Back to like missing a free throw. Like it was like missing a free throw to get 21 or missing a free point.

[TP]

Or maybe if it was like if you missed your free throw two times in a row, you got deducted like, every time that you scored, if you missed your first one, and then the next time you went up, you had to make that one. Oh, we had a lot of rules. Like, things got. We had some Hoopers, though.

[Sid]

Yeah. Yeah. So you're in my room.

[TP]

So we're playing, and I hate it when guys would get, like, chippy because they were losing. I'm like, you don't have to get chippy because you can't make a bat. Like, the game is basketball. We're not wrestling right now.

[Sid]

Right.

[TP]

We're. We're trying to shoot this ball, which I'm doing a pretty good job at, which is why you're upset. Into that goal. We all have the same objective here. No reason to get upset, but they get so mad.

[Sid]

We used to play against boys. My sister were younger, too, with my brother. And, like, older boys in the neighborhood. Yeah. If you start winning, then people are getting tight because it's like, you're losing to a girl. It's like, hey, don't look at it that way. You're just losing to somebody better than you, buddy. It's okay To a professional athlete now. Hey, just chill. People are gonna call me a man in, like, 20 years. You're good.

[TP]

You're good. In about two decades, I'll be mistaken for a man more times than I'm comfortable admitting. I'm sure that really cheered him up. They go home and tell their mom, like, yeah, I lost, but she said she was gonna be called a man in a few years, so I'm not really tripping about it.

[Sid]

Mom, like, yeah, she's. Our pronouns where she, he, and them, you know, anything. Like, do you know what that means?

[TP]

And that's how P. Diddy ended up in prison. He just couldn't take it out.

[Sid]

So this. This conversation took me back. This took me back to just, like, playing with kids in the neighborhood when I was younger. And my sister and I, we played one on one one time. So Simone's two years older than me, so we would always, like, would it be us two and my brother playing 21, or, like, me and her playing one on one? She beat me 100 to 44 before I started crying.

[TP]

You wait till I got to triple digits before you were crying like, you were still down. Even at 99, you were losing by over 50 points. Like, that's still a very large number to overcome.

[Sid]

Maybe we were going to 100. I don't remember. But how long were you guys outside?

[TP]

And what were y' all going by? 10.

[Sid]

A long time? No, just, like, normal points. And I know I can't remember everything. I know I had to be hot during it because at a certain point, also, I mean, like, we were younger here, but Simone was still, you know, good at basketball when we were in high school, and she was at a different high school. She was at Bel Air, and I was going to west side, so I was like, oh, my God, like, come over to west side because we could play together finally. Cause we couldn't play in middle school because I was too young. But I, like, I cried at one of their games. They were playing the rival middle school, and I just wish that I could be on that team.

[TP]

So when they lost, crying, sobbing, wishing to be a part of this rivalry.

[Sid]

Is Simone's sister good? No. She wants to be in the wba.

[TP]

What was their mascot? What was their mascot?

[Sid]

Well, ours. We were the Linear Purple.

[TP]

No, your sisters.

[Sid]

Oh, what?

[TP]

Oh, in high school, the school that you were crying again?

[Sid]

No, that was Lanier. That was the Linear Purple Pups, man. Shout out to the Purple Pups, man. For real.

[TP]

No. What was your sister's high school? That you weren't on her team? That you were dying to be on her team.

[Sid]

Oh, no, no. That was in middle school when I was dying to be on her team. But in high school, she was.

[TP]

Yeah. What was that? Middle school's mascot, Lanier Purple Pups.

[Sid]

I can't.

[TP]

Oh, so you were. So you were there.

[Sid]

I was there, but I couldn't be on their team. I wasn't.

[TP]

Oh, you were just.

[Sid]

I was in sixth grade. And so you had to wait till seventh grade to be on the team? I'm like, I can beat them. No, this isn't fair. But, yeah, it's.

[TP]

That's really sad, because I feel like you got robbed out of your moment. They had me playing. I was, like, fourth grade playing on the fifth and sixth. In the seventh and eighth grade teams at my school, we didn't have enough people, like, coming out for basketball, but.

[Sid]

They can't make you play that much.

[TP]

And what's crazy is I actually joined the choir. So when? After. Like, after school and before basketball practice, I had some time to fill where I would just, like, do my homework or whatever.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

But choir used to give out a pack of Skittles at the end of choir practice.

[Sid]

Regular ones or.

[TP]

Yeah, the regular, like, the little kid. Siiz ones, too. I was like. I guess.

[Sid]

Did y' all have sources? The. Were the sour ones out yet?

[TP]

No, there was no options.

[Sid]

It was just.

[TP]

It was Just that bag of Skittles was enough for me to join choir to get that bag of skittles before going into basketball practice.

[Sid]

Fair. Wait, how much were Skittles back then? You remember, little bag. Were they four? Four dollar or three?

[TP]

I don't know. But I know that this is when cans were 25 cents and bottles were 75 cents.

[Sid]

So they probably. They probably were 25. Yeah.

[TP]

Yeah. That's when you can get like a sour Patch straw pack for like 50 cents.

[Sid]

Yeah. Oh, those are so.

[TP]

Man, those were so good.

[Sid]

We gotta do a can. Like, we have to do just a throwback candy.

[TP]

We have to quickly. Because I used to take those little nasty things and let it, like, just sit in my water. I'd like pull it out and like, drink my, like, struggle drinking my water. Like, I wasn't getting adequate water through that straw, but I continued to try dry. I never gave up off of the.

[Sid]

The straw. So it was like kind of lose, lose. I'm barely getting any water. I'm also losing my sugar to the water.

[TP]

But yeah, the taste of the straw was different. After you, like, were done using it as a straw and you ate it, it just wasn't as satisfying as if you were just to eat it immediately.

[Sid]

Okay, on three, even though we have a slight delay, you're going to say your. Your favorite color of these sour punch straws. One, two, three. Blue.

[TP]

Blue.

[Sid]

What?

[TP]

Yeah, let's go. You're a psychopath if you don't like blue.

[Sid]

Let's go. I love blue so much.

[TP]

The blue were so good.

[Sid]

It was so good.

[TP]

So good.

[Sid]

Well, nothing like a healthy candy. Candy chat after basketball talk. So y' all just make sure you're eating good and taking care of your.

[TP]

Bodies, adding nutrients to your body.

[Sid]

You are what you eat.

[TP]

That's how we used to. But though that's. That is how we used to fuel our body after a game 100.

[Sid]

I was more excited about the final buzzer for the concession stand than like, what the score was.

[TP]

I'm like, right.

[Sid]

I hope they got nachos. I hope they got this. That.

[TP]

Yeah, they used to do that little thing where you had like the. The frito. And then they would, like, put the nacho cheese and like the chili and stuff, and you would, like, eat it with the fork in the bag. Yeah, that was cool. I remember, like, we thought we were cool carrying around. Like, you thought you were really cool if you had the.

[Sid]

So cool.

[TP]

We need to talk about, like, young flexes one day. Like, things that when you were a kid you thought was cool. Like, when Under Armour first came out, if you put on one of those like Under Armour dry fits, you felt like you were like, shredded. Meanwhile, I had this like little chubby little 10 year old body that I thought I was like, flexing on people for real. And like, no bra either. Like, my tits didn't come in until well later in my life. But I was just like in that little chubby, like, chubby little body thinking that I was like, yeah, so cool. Cuz the Under Armour commercials made me feel like I was, you know, represented by the people in the commercials that were also shredded. Marketing works with that shirt on.

[Sid]

Yeah, marketing works. And thank you for sharing this Breathe.

[TP]

The Allen Iverson finger sweatband.

[Sid]

So are you trying to do the episode now or do you want to save stuff?

[TP]

No, just.

[Sid]

No.

[TP]

I'm ask y babysitters if y' all have some really good young flexes. Like, what was your young flex? I'm dying. Next episode. We do need to touch on this because babysitters leave comments. DM us, whatever it looks like for you, let us know what your flex was when you were a kid. Pokemon cards, whatever that was at the gym, sport, whatever it was. Please let us know what you thought you were hot shit for.

[Sid]

People are going to have some crazy.

[TP]

This is going to be good.

[Sid]

All right. Tv. This is like, y' all got to understand, like, what are we. How many episodes in are we? 24. So we're still, we're still working this out. You know, me and tp, we said, all right, maybe we just want to have more, like, more chats, just combos. So y' all feel like y' all are sitting in, you're babysitting us, so you listening to our conversation. Maybe you're chiming in in your car. But we also want to do what feels like fun and engaging for y', all, like, because obviously we've changed format a little bit. Sometimes we like more segments, we're playing more games. Sometimes we just feel like catching up. But I don't know, we feel like y', all, we feel like y' all are starting to understand us more and more. So, like, yeah, we might do segments for a month and then we might stop for a month. And you gotta be okay with that.

[TP]

You just gotta be okay. And you guys have adapted so well thus far. Also, since you're still sticking around, you gotta have somewhat of a personality.

[Sid]

Yeah.

[TP]

And we love to see your feedback, we love to see your comments and what you have to say.

[Sid]

We're gonna get more. We're gonna get more active with y' all in the comments. I try to some days when I'm seeing stuff, but I'm also, like, I don't feel like being on social media. But we definitely want y' all to know that we appreciate y' all rocking with us, even audio. I know I'm hard on you, but it's because I love you. I want more for you.

[TP]

It's tough love.

[Sid]

It's tough love, but we appreciate y' all listening all this time and telling other people about us. Feels nice because we just, you know, we just want to spread positivity and sometimes negativity when people deserve it. But, like, for the most part, love and positivity and, like, our lives with y'. All and funny moments, especially, like, the basketball talk. Today, we realized, like, we hadn't talked about basketball in a minute. Like, let's talk about what's going on at unrivaled, because we know we got women's basketball fans, so we want. We want everybody to eat, Everybody to feel like they're hearing something they want to know a little bit more about that pertains to our lives. So hopefully y' all enjoyed this episode. TP I enjoy talking to you all the time.

[TP]

It's always a pleasure, Sid. Always a pleasure, my friend.

[Sid]

Well, with that said, look, if y' all got any drama, any advice you want to give us, any feedback, anything you need you need help with, you know, you could just hit us at unsupervised. Sidcp. We got a great team behind us that sorts through all your messages, and, you know, they send them to us and we look through them. So just know that those don't go unappreciated or unseen either.

[TP]

Yeah. And like Sid said earlier, we just want to continue to spread joy. And with that being said, y' all, don't forget to throw kindness around like confetti. We love you guys, and we will see you guys next week. That was a joke. We're actually not gonna see them. We're gonna see each other.

[Sid]

Oh, yeah. Hey, yeah.

[Guest Rapper]

Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, we say what we want and yeah, we say what we feel Sitting tmp of the mix and they be keeping it real on brand, off topic, out of pocket, Anything you need, they got it. Why don't you shout when you know they gonna block up when it's game time and you know I'm gonna block them? And we cover everything like, whoa, who harder than us? And yeah, we looking down on haters? Cause they smaller than us. And yeah, my flow is so dep I be coughing it up. You said that we gone flat more than I'm calling your block.

[Sid]

Call em unsupervised.

[Guest Rapper]

Unsupervised. Unsupervised.