Comey and James Indictments Dismissed, New Ukraine Peace Plan, Pressure On Venezuela

Summary

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Up First from NPR – Episode Summary

Episode: Comey and James Indictments Dismissed, New Ukraine Peace Plan, Pressure On Venezuela
Date: November 25, 2025
Hosts: Michelle Martin, Steve Inskeep
Reporters: Carrie Johnson, Eleanor Beardsley, Franco Ordonez

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Overview

This episode covers three of the day's most consequential global news items:

1. The dismissal of indictments against two prominent critics of President Trump, raising questions about executive power and the U.S. justice system.
2. Europe's intervention in Ukraine peace negotiations, offering a plan distinct from the Trump administration’s proposal and receiving a cautious endorsement from Ukrainian President Zelenskyy.
3. The Trump administration's escalation against Venezuela, including the designation of President Nicolás Maduro as a terrorist leader, and mounting concerns of potential military action in the region.

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1. Indictments of Comey and James Dismissed (02:30–06:15)

Key Points

• Federal Judge Dismisses Cases: A federal judge threw out criminal cases against former FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James, which were pursued by a prosecutor appointed by President Trump.
• Improper Prosecutor Appointment: The charges were dismissed because prosecutor Lindsay Halligan was improperly installed as U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, bypassing traditional Senate confirmation.
  • “This woman, Lindsay Halligan, has no prior experience as a prosecutor, but she was installed as U.S. attorney…on orders from President Trump.” – Carrie Johnson (03:16)
• Consequences: Both cases are now dismissed. The Department of Justice may appeal, but a statute of limitations may bar further action, particularly in the Comey case.
• Reactions:
  • Jim Comey: Called the case “based on malevolence and incompetence,” emphasizing the importance of the rule of law (05:08).
  • Letitia James: Declared she remains “fearless in the face of these baseless charges.”
• Broader Principle: Growing judicial scrutiny over presidential appointments of U.S. attorneys is setting precedent—recent court decisions have limited executive overreach in multiple states.

Notable Quotes

• “All actions flowing from Lindsey Halligan’s defective appointment are unlawful exercises of executive power. They must be set aside.” – Judge Cameron Curry (paraphrased by Carrie Johnson, 03:58)
• “The message has to be sent that the President of the United States cannot use the Department of Justice to target his political enemies…you have to see that as fundamentally un-American and a threat to the rule of law that keeps all of us free.” – Jim Comey (05:08)
• “Courts are finding that has some limits.” – Carrie Johnson on executive power over appointments (05:49)

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2. New Ukraine Peace Proposal by Europe (06:23–10:07)

Key Points

• Europe’s Unified Intervention: Europeans collaborated with Ukraine to offer a new peace proposal, diverging from the Trump administration’s earlier 28-point plan, which had been criticized as favoring Russia.
  • “That 28-point plan as we knew it no longer exists…It was an absolute Kremlin wish list.” – Eleanor Beardsley (06:47)
• Details and Context:
  • German Chancellor Friedrich Merz: Asserted that peace must be lasting, and not a capitulation.
  • French President Emmanuel Macron: Warned against “a peace that’s a capitulation.”
  • The U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio noted progress in Geneva, with NATO membership for Ukraine still in discussion.
  • Key security guarantee: Preventing future Russian reinvasion is critical to any agreement.
• Ukrainian Response:
  • President Zelenskyy called the new plan “constructive,” resembling a 2022 plan but colored now by four years of conflict and exhaustion.
    • Willingness to freeze conflict lines but rejects permanently ceding territory to Russia.
  • “Ukraine is ready to freeze those lines, but rules out ceding this entire territory to Russia and having it internationally recognized, which was in the first plan.” – Eleanor Beardsley (07:52)
• On the Ground in Kyiv:
  • Continued Russian attacks, including a night raid on Kyiv with 22 missiles and 400 drones (six fatalities).
  • Local resident Anton Melnyk hopes for a better plan and calls for increased sanctions to “smother Russia’s war machine.”
• Russian Reaction:
  • Kremlin adviser dismisses the European plan.
  • Russia steadfast in its “maximalist goals,” with 35,000 Russian soldiers reported lost monthly (10:03).

Notable Quotes

• “We want peace, but not a peace that's a capitulation, you know, because European security is at stake here.” – French President Macron (quoted by Eleanor Beardsley, 06:47)
• “He said this new plan could only be better than the old plan, which was written by Russia…And he called on the international community to, quote, smother Russia with sanctions to squeeze and destroy its war machine.” – Anton Melnyk, recounted by Eleanor Beardsley (08:59)

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3. US Escalates Pressure on Venezuela (10:14–13:45)

Key Points

• Venezuela Redesignated as Terrorist Threat:
  • Trump administration names Nicolás Maduro as the leader of a “foreign terrorist organization” (the so-called “Cartel de los Solas”), providing expanded U.S. authority for military action.
  • U.S. has stationed a naval flotilla off Venezuela and conducted operations against suspected drug boats.
  • “It gives the US Expanded authority to take military action against Maduro's government…More and more former officials and international experts…see the administration potentially gearing up for some type of military strike.” – Franco Ordonez (10:43)
• Expert and Official Analysis:
  • Political analyst Ian Bremmer frames the 'terrorist' designation as a high-stakes pressure tactic.
  • No signs of a ground invasion, but targeted strikes — as with Iran earlier in the year — are seen as plausible.
• Military Mobilization:
  • Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Dan Kane, leads a U.S. military build-up in the Caribbean (largest aircraft carrier, 15,000 troops).
  • Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: “The general was not going to the Caribbean just to thank the troops.” (12:11)
  • Discussion of broader geopolitical stakes (Russian, Cuban, and Chinese support for Maduro).
• Risks and Debates:
  • Doubts over whether U.S. escalation fits the “America First” doctrine, as military action could lead to long-term involvement.
  • “There are cases where regime change arguably worked…but there are other examples, including Iraq and Afghanistan, where regime change did not go so well.” – Franco Ordonez (13:05)
• Implications:
  • Tension grows over possibility of military conflict in the Western Hemisphere.
  • Debate continues over efficacy and risks of American intervention.

Notable Quotes

• “We're definitely closer to military intervention.” – Franco Ordonez (11:45)
• “Anything is better than Maduro can quickly fall apart.” – Ian Bremmer (summarized by Franco Ordonez, 13:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Dismissal of Indictments: 02:30–06:15
• Ukraine Peace Plan Shift: 06:23–10:07
• US Pressure on Venezuela: 10:14–13:45

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

• “The message has to be sent that the President of the United States cannot use the Department of Justice to target his political enemies…I don't care what your politics are. You have to see that as fundamentally un-American and a threat to the rule of law that keeps all of us free.” — Jim Comey (05:08)
• “That 28-point plan as we knew it no longer exists…It was an absolute Kremlin wish list.” — Eleanor Beardsley (06:47)
• “We're definitely closer to military intervention.” — Franco Ordonez (11:45)
• “Anything is better than Maduro can quickly fall apart.” — Ian Bremmer, via Franco Ordonez (13:05)

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Tone and Language

The hosts and correspondents maintain NPR’s standard—measured, fact-focused, and incisive—while conveying the urgency of the day’s events. Interviewees’ and analysts' quotes bring emotion and directness, especially from Jim Comey and Ukrainian voices, while analysis of Venezuela is more cautious but laced with warnings.

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This episode provides essential background for understanding the current state of American domestic legal controversy, the shifting landscape of European diplomacy around Ukraine, and the rapidly escalating U.S. posture toward Venezuela.

Transcript

[Michelle Martin]

A federal judge dismissed the indictments President Trump ordered up against two people he didn't like.

[Steve Inskeep]

The judge found the prosecutor was improperly appointed. What does the ruling mean for Trump's campaign of retribution against his critics?

[Michelle Martin]

I'm Michelle Martin with Steve Inskeep. And this is up first from NPR News. Europeans have offered their own proposal to end the war in Ukraine. Ukrainian President Zelenskyy said it's a plan that his country could work with. How is it different from President Trump's 28 point propos?

[Steve Inskeep]

Also, the Trump administration named Venezuela's president the leader of a terror group. One analyst sees a pretext for a possible attack.

[Franco Ordonez]

We're definitely closer to military intervention.

[Steve Inskeep]

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[Steve Inskeep]

Today, President Trump's bid to prosecute his critics ran afoul of the law.

[Michelle Martin]

A judge throughout the criminal case against former FBI Director James Comey, she did the same for the indictment of Letitia James The Attorney General of New York State. Both had been indicted by a lawyer who was willing to follow Trump's demand to pursue criminal charges. After other prosecutors found no reason for a case, the judge found the lawyer was improperly appointed.

[Steve Inskeep]

NPR's Carrie Johnson has been following this story. Kerry, good morning.

[Kerry Johnson]

Good morning, Steve.

[Steve Inskeep]

Okay. Why was the prosecutor not legitimately in that job?

[Kerry Johnson]

The judge found the process was invalid, that if the Trump administration wanted to pick a U.S. attorney, it had to go through the right steps. Typically, that would be nomination and confirmation by the Senate. This woman, Lindsay Halligan, has no prior experience as a prosecutor, but she was installed as U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, one of the most important offices in the country, on orders from President Trump. And she got the job only after the White House forced out a career prosecutor. He expressed doubts about bringing criminal charges against the former FBI Director, Jim Comey and New York Attorney General Tish James, both prominent critics of the president who played a role in investigating him.

[Steve Inskeep]

Okay, so this isn't really a technicality. It's about the limits of executive power. And when does the president have to check in with the Senate in this case? He should have and didn't, according to the judge. But what are the the real world consequences for the cases?

[Kerry Johnson]

They're pretty serious. This judge, Cameron Curry, wrote, all actions flowing from Lindsey Halligan's defective appointment are unlawful exercises of executive power. They must be set aside. Halligan was, of course, the only prosecutor in the grand jury room for the indictments of Jim Comey and Tish James. She's the only one who signed those indictments. So now both of those cases are dismissed. The Justice Department does have the right to appeal. The White House press secretary, Caroline Levitt, says this is a technical ruling. In their view, an appeal will be coming soon. And she says the prosecutor was legally appointed and is extremely qualified. But there's a catch here. The statute of limitations in the Comey case expired at the end of September, and Judge Curry has raised some doubt about whether the DOJ can swing that door back open again.

[Steve Inskeep]

Letitia James and Jim Comey have got to be pleased about this.

[Kerry Johnson]

They are. I think Jim Comey actually released a video saying the case against him was based on malevolence and incompetence. He also praised the Justice Department lawyers who lost their jobs for refusing to indict him.

[Steve Inskeep]

The message has to be sent that the President of the United States cannot use the Department of Justice to target his political enemies. I don't care what your politics are. You have to see that as fundamentally un American and a threat to the rule of law that keeps all of us free.

[Kerry Johnson]

Comey also says he thinks Trump may come after him again. But Comey has faith in the federal courts. And as for Tish James, she says she's heartened and she, quote, remains fearless in the face of these baseless charges. Her lawyer says they're going to challenge any new and politically motivated charges that come against her.

[Steve Inskeep]

And can you underline for us the larger principle here?

[Kerry Johnson]

Yeah. So often with President Trump, it involves executive power. Four times this year, different courts have ruled U.S. attorneys have not been appointed legally in places like Nevada, California, New Jersey, and now Virginia. These prosecutors have a lot of power to decide what to investigate, and the president has a lot of power to appoint those prosecutors. But courts are finding that has some limits.

[Steve Inskeep]

NPR's Kerry Johnson, thanks for your insights as always.

[Kerry Johnson]

Happy to do it.

[Steve Inskeep]

Okay. A much criticized peace plan for Ukraine appears to be off the table.

[Michelle Martin]

The Trump administration started negotiations over a 28 point plan drawn up with input from Russia. Now Europeans have put their own proposal on the table.

[Steve Inskeep]

NPR's Eleanor Beardsley is following whatever's on the table. Eleanor. Hi.

[Eleanor Beardsley]

Good morning, Steve.

[Steve Inskeep]

Okay, so how is the European proposal different from what we've discussed in recent days?

[Eleanor Beardsley]

Well, a Ukrainian member of the negotiating team said the 28 point plan as we knew it no longer exists. So this original draft peace plan was an absolute Kremlin wish list according to Ukraine and the Europeans who really came together to present a unified front and to weigh in along with Kyiv. And, you know, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz told President Trump that the entire European continent was at stake in the negotiations. And he said a lasting peace is not going to be quick. So, so that Thanksgiving deadline is out. French President Emmanuel Macron said, we want peace, but not a peace that's a capitulation, you know, because European security is at stake here. Now, I've been unable to confirm this, but one media is reporting that the presidents of Italy and Finland are going to meet in the coming days with President Trump. Note they are both considered Trump whisperers. Finnish President Alexander Stubb plays golf with Trump. But even Secretary of State Marco Rubio hailed good progress in Geneva. He said Ukraine's membership in NATO is still under discussion. And Ukrainians and Europeans say security guarantees to make sure Russia does not reinvade in the future are keys to any lasting peace.

[Steve Inskeep]

What does Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the president of Ukraine, think about all this?

[Eleanor Beardsley]

Well, he spoke to his nation last night. He Said it's a plan Ukraine can work with, a constructive one that could really end the war. You know, let's note that this is identical to a plan presented in April of 2022, which didn't work out. The difference today is exhaustion and heavy losses after four years of fighting. Zelenskyy said he'd be discussing the sensitive points of the peace with President Trump. He's referring to the eastern Ukrainian provinces that are partially opp occupied by Russia, but Russia hasn't fully taken them. Ukraine is ready to freeze those lines, but rules out ceding this entire territory to Russia and having it internationally recognized, which was in the first plan. Here is Zelensky speaking last night. You know, he warned Ukrainians to be very attentive in the days and weeks to come for the air alerts, reminding that Russia will not reduce its pressure. And Steve, as if on cue, the attacks began. Air raid sirens began to wail in Kyiv, which was Russia's largest target last night with 22 missiles, 400 drones. Six people were killed, according to the mayor of Kyiv. And a few of us slept in our safe room here in Kyiv last night.

[Steve Inskeep]

Well, what kinds of conversations do you hear when you're able to get out on the street or you're crowded in the safe room?

[Eleanor Beardsley]

Well, no, we got out. And believe it or not, Ukrainians are kind of used to this whiplash of back and forth negotiations. I talked to people going to work. I spoke with architect Anton Melnyk, who's from the big eastern central city of Dnipro. He came to the capital for some training. Here he is. You know, he says, thank God I slept through the attacks on the train. But he said this new plan could only be better than the old plan, which was written by Russia. But he said Ukrainians are still under so much pressure. And he called on the international community to, quote, smother Russia with sanctions to squeeze and destroy its war machine.

[Steve Inskeep]

Okay, what do the Russians say about that?

[Eleanor Beardsley]

Well, last night, an advisor to the Kremlin rejected the European plan, saying it would not work for Russia. But Russians are meeting US Counterparts today in Abu Dhabi, and Ukrainian President Zelensky is probably coming to Washington to meet with President Trump. But Russia has dropped none of its maximalist goals. So it's hard to see any common points between the two sides. And analysts say as long as President Vladimir Putin thinks he can make gains on the battlefield, he'll continue. Doesn't matter how many soldiers he's losing, which by estimates is 35,000 soldiers a month.

[Franco Ordonez]

Wow.

[Steve Inskeep]

NPR's Eleanor Beardsley is in Kiev. Thanks so much, Eleanor.

[Eleanor Beardsley]

You're welcome, Steve.

[Steve Inskeep]

The United States redefined the president of Venezuela.

[Michelle Martin]

Yes. The Trump administration has designated Nicolas Maduro as the leader of a foreign terrorist organization. The move is part of an ever more explicit pressure campaign. The US has parked a naval flotilla off the Venezuelan coast and has been blowing up boats leaving the country.

[Steve Inskeep]

NPR White House correspondent Franco Ordonez has been covering the entirety of this administration. He's with us once again. Franco, good morning.

[Franco Ordonez]

Good morning, Steve.

[Steve Inskeep]

What's it matter if the United States calls Maduro a terrorist?

[Franco Ordonez]

I mean. Well, it gives the US Expanded authority to take military action against Maduro's government. Now, look, this may be, you know, kind of the most over the top way to try and scare Maduro to leave on his own. But more and more former officials and international experts that I talk to see the administration potentially gearing up for some type of military strike in Venezuela. The administration named Cartel de los Solas as a foreign terrorist organization and Maduro as its leader. Now, the US Said the group is made up of military officers. Venezuela says it's not even an actual group, but it gives the US Expanded power to take military action. As I was saying, and I was talking with Ian Bremmer, who leads the political risk consulting firm Eurasia Group, and he told me that the White House has this kind of carrot and stick approach going with Maduro and that using the threat of designating him was kind of a diplomatic pressure tool. So, I mean, that's something that had been held out there as a you better engage with us or else.

[Eleanor Beardsley]

Well, you've just gotten the or else.

[Franco Ordonez]

So we're definitely closer to military intervention. Now, like many analysts, Bremer doesn't expect a ground invasion, but more likely targeted strikes. And Trump has used targeted strikes before, such as earlier this year in Iran.

[Steve Inskeep]

Okay. So we have reported in recent days about how the United States has positioned an aircraft carrier and other assets. Now they're bringing four stars to the area. General Dan Kane, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is visiting. What's the significance of that?

[Franco Ordonez]

Yeah, I mean, he's the top nation's top military officer and a key part of this massive buildup of forces in the Caribbean, including, you know, the Navy's largest aircraft carrier and some 15,000 troops. Now, Mike Pompeo, who was secretary of State during the first Trump administration, he was on FOX yesterday and he said it was clear that the general was not going to the Caribbean just to thank the troops.

[Steve Inskeep]

I do think that this administration understands that this is all part of a larger puzzle, right? The Venezuelans supported by the Cubans, the Russians and the Chinese, now in our own neighborhood. And getting rid of Maduro gives the Venezuelan people a shot, keeps us safer. I want to think this through a little bit. Franco Maduro obviously is not well liked by the United States. He appears to have fraudulently won election after election, brutal leader. But at the same time, the president has said other countries are not our business. I campaign against foreign wars. He has said, what are the risks to him at home?

[Franco Ordonez]

I mean, there are a lot of political implications that Trump needs to weigh. There's a debate whether striking Venezuela fits a withholding America first. Now, the White House says that Trump is prepared to use every element of American power to stop drugs from flooding into the country, and that is America first. But going farther than that carries a risk of longer term responsibility. Now, of course, there are cases where regime change arguably worked. Take Panama in 1989. But there are other examples, including Iraq and Afghanistan, where regime change did not go so well. And Bremer told me kind of this idea of anything is better than Maduro can quickly fall apart.

[Steve Inskeep]

NPR White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. Always a pleasure talking with you, sir.

[Franco Ordonez]

Always a pleasure, Steve.

[Steve Inskeep]

Thank you. And that's up first for this Tuesday, November 25th. I'm Steve Inskeep.

[Michelle Martin]

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[Steve Inskeep]

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