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Michelle Martin
The FBI searched the home of a Washington Post reporter as part of a leak investigation.
Emmy Martinez
Press advocates warn this crosses a dangerous line.
David Folkenflik
There's a whole pattern in this administration of trying to undermine an independent press.
Michelle Martin
I'm Michelle Martin with a Martinez, and this is up first from NPR News. After a meeting with the president's top aides, Denmark's foreign minister says Trump still wants Greenland.
David Folkenflik
It's clear that the president has this wish of conquering over Greenland. We made it very, very clear that this is not in the interest of the kingdom.
Michelle Martin
How far is the president willing to push American allies?
Emmy Martinez
And the White House cut billions in funding for mental health and addiction programs. The next day, it restored it. What does the whiplash say about the future of public health under this administration? Stay with us. We've got all the news you need to start your day.
Michelle Martin
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Michelle Martin
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Emmy Martinez
Some media executives are calling the FBI search of a reporter's home an alarming intrusion into the freedom of the press.
Michelle Martin
That search of a Washington Post reporter's house happened on Wednesday as part of the Trump administration's investigation of a leak.
Emmy Martinez
NPR media correspondent David Folkenflick joins us. David? All right. Load us down with some details.
Brian Mann
Well, as the Washington Post itself has reported, this stems from the government's case against a contractor named Aurelio Perez Lugones. He was charged in Maryland by federal authorities with unlawfully retaining national defense information. The Post reporter involved is Hannah Natenson. Her home yesterday morning in Virginia was searched. Law enforcement agents seized two computers, one of which was her own personal computer, her Garmin smartwatch. She's been dubbed by a colleague at the Post the federal government whisperer. Over the course of the past year, she's documented the purge of hundreds of thousands of federal employees, completely reshaping the federal workforce. And last month, she wrote this first person story about this process, how depleting it was, but how fulfilling the mission was. And she said she relied on 1169 confidential sources, people whose lives were upended. Yesterday over the course of the day, the executive editor, Matt Murray, wrote about the profound concerns about this. It said the institution was standing behind her and encouraged reporters to do their constitutionally protected duties. That is to report they. There are also strong statements from the publisher and from the editorial page as well.
Emmy Martinez
Okay, so what does the government have to say about this?
Brian Mann
Well, according to the Washington Post, the government has told the newspaper that Nathanson is not a focus of the investigation. But I will say once news got out, FBI Director Kash Patel posted on X that Natenson allegedly had obtained and reported, quote, classified sensitive military information from a government contractor endangering our war fighters and compromising America's national security. And that stern stuff, he's focusing the attention on what she did as opposed to what the person, the contractor that they have charged allegedly with having held onto this information illegally. What he did. Now, there are protections for journalists against prosecutors on both the federal and local level, just rooting around in reporters records to figure out where leaks came from. But there are exemptions, including for national security. And that's obviously what federal authorities, including the attorney general, are pointing to right here.
Emmy Martinez
Okay. And why are press advocates alarmed by all this?
Brian Mann
Well, first off, this is highly unusual and considered incredibly aggressive to search a reporter's home instead of going to the office and particularly instead of giving a subpoena to allow employers, news organizations to comply or to fight that. I talked yesterday to a bunch of media executives and First Amendment lawyers, and I think that what they felt in some was encapsulated by the former executive editor of the Washington Post. That's Marty Barron. Here's what he had to say.
David Folkenflik
There's a whole pattern in this administration of trying to undermine an independent press in this country and impede their work one way or another.
Brian Mann
And why would he say that? Well, the pattern includes lawsuits filed against the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, abc, cbs, the BBC. By President Trump as an individual, his top broadcast regulator has launched investigations of CBS and PBS and NPR and NBC. There's been pressure of the corporate owners of cnn, the Washington Post and cbs. President Trump himself has repeatedly called for journalists who won't reve sources to be threatened with jail. And one more thing. Given what Natenson wrote last month and all those 1,169 confidential sources, is this only about Perez Lugones or is this a fishing expedition seeking information about who made leaks beyond the case in Maryland?
Emmy Martinez
That's NPR's David Folkenflik. David, thank you.
Brian Mann
You bet.
Emmy Martinez
Denmark's foreign minister says there is still a fundamental disagreement between his country and President Trump over the Danish territory of Green.
Michelle Martin
Luca Rasmussen said after meeting with Vice President Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Wednesday, it is clear that Trump wants to, quote, conquer the territory. But the two sides did agree to form a working group to keep talking about U.S. security concerns.
Emmy Martinez
NPR White House correspondent Franco Ordonez has been following it all. So Franco, I mean, it kind of was interesting how the foreign ministers of Denmark and Greenland were the first to speak after the meeting. So, I mean, what do they have to say?
Franco Ordonez
Yeah, I thought to la the U. S somewhat seeded the spotlight for a bit and actually allowed them to kind of get out front. And it was clear that the Danish foreign minister, Lars Lacarusmussen, wanted to push back on the narrative being promoted by President Trump.
David Folkenflik
It is not a true narrative that we have, you know, Chinese warships all around the place. According to our intelligence, we haven't had a Chinese warship in Greenland for a decade or so.
Franco Ordonez
Rasmussen did say they share some of Trump's security concerns, but that didn't mean the US should acquire Greenland, which he said is, quote, absolutely not necessary. Denmark has said that the US can add more military bases on the island thanks to the 1951 agreement that grants wide latitude to the US in terms of access. He said he hopes the high level group, though, can find some kind of mutual understanding.
Emmy Martinez
Yeah, and the other part of this is that Rasmussen talked about this being an emotional issue for both Greenland and Denmark. So, I mean, how significant of a threat is this?
Franco Ordonez
Yeah, I mean, is it a threat? Is it negotiations? Trump is known for taking the most hardline approach when he wants something. But Stuart Patrick, who served in the George W. Bush State Department, told me this is a really pivotal moment, that it's testing rules of international order going back to the UN Charter that basically says you cannot use force against another country to acquire territory, especially smaller ones.
David Folkenflik
What the President United States is proposing to do is to throw the entire weight of the most powerful country in the world against a loyal ally that has shed as much blood and treasure over wars that the United States has been involved in over the past two.
Michelle Martin
Decades to be able to get what.
David Folkenflik
He wants to force them to give up Greenland.
Franco Ordonez
Patrick, who's now at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, is noting the high number of Danish soldiers who died fighting in Afghanistan with American forces.
Emmy Martinez
Now, I'm sure the president has been asked about this. What have we heard from him?
Franco Ordonez
Yeah, he had a signing ceremony yesterday where he was pressed about what he was going to do, and he did not back down.
David Folkenflik
Greenland is very important for the national security, including of Denmark. And the problem is there's not a thing that Denmark can do about it if Russia or China wants to occupy Greenland. But there's everything we can do. You found that out last week with Venezuela.
Emmy Martinez
So Franco mentioning Venezuela like that sounds a bit like an ominous warning.
Franco Ordonez
Yeah, I mean, it really does. And Denmark is taking this very seriously. Denmark also announced plans to build its military presence in Greenland. And this seems to be more of an effort to push back against the idea that it cannot defend the territory. But Sweden and Germany also announced that they would be sending forces, which could also send a different kind of message to the US and that is that Denmark is not alone.
Emmy Martinez
That is White House correspondent Franco Ordonez. Thanks a lot.
Franco Ordonez
Thanks. Hey.
Emmy Martinez
After a day of confusion and backroom negotiations, the Trump administration last night restored roughly $2 billion in grant money for mental health and addict programs nationwide.
Michelle Martin
The money had been cut off without warning, sending shock waves through the country's public health system.
Emmy Martinez
NPR's Brian Mann broke this story. He's here to update us. Brian. So do we know for sure that all of these care providers are actually gonna get that funding?
David Folkenflik
Yeah, that's confirmed. NPR first reported Wednesday morning. The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration was terminating these grants for roughly 2,000 organizations. These are frontline programs helping some of the most vulnerable people in the country. The decision to slash the money came as a complete shock, and it triggered a huge political backlash. And so last night, an administration official confirmed to NPR the cuts are being reversed. They asked not to be identified because they didn't have permission to speak publicly about this move. They said organizations were being notified the full $2 billion in funding are being restored. I spoke about this with Hannah Wesolowski. She's with the national alliance on Mental Illness, who said she's relieved but also.
Michelle Martin
Exhausted after a day of panic. Across the country, nonprofits and people with mental health conditions are deeply alarmed, but hopeful that this money is being restored, that being said this is hit after hit after hit.
David Folkenflik
Roselowski said these organizations are deeply demoralized. Over the last 24 hours, a lot of people thought they were losing their jobs. They thought they're really sick. Patients were going to lose care.
Emmy Martinez
So any idea why the Trump administration reversed course like this?
David Folkenflik
You know, it's not clear who actually ordered those termination letters to be sent out in the first place. And NPR also wasn't able to confirm who ordered this reversal. What we do know is that after NPR reported on the cuts, care providers like Dr. Dan Lustic, who runs an addiction treatment program in Chicago, started reaching out to lawmakers in Washington, D.C. with a simple message that these cuts would have been dangerous.
Michelle Martin
We provide treatment, life saving treatment, because if people don't get access to treatment, they just die. And that's a fact. I mean, you could spin this any way people want to, but people are going to die.
David Folkenflik
And it appears lawmakers got that message. There was a bipartisan effort to convince the Trump administration to reverse course again. Here's Hannah Wesolowski.
Michelle Martin
We heard from offices on both sides of the political aisle who were working on this issue throughout the day and really speaks to the power of the collabor on this issue.
Emmy Martinez
All right, Brian, so the money is on the way this time, at least. What does this whiplash kind of a day really say about the direction of leadership of public health in the U.S.
David Folkenflik
Yeah, it's a remarkable moment. People I've been talking to say the country feels rudderless with public health. On Tuesday, all these programs are being defunded. No one's sure why. Now the money's restored. Again, no clear explanation. For months, the Trump administration has been signaling that they think many of the country's current public health programs are ineffective and need to be replaced. But people I'm talking to say there's no clear plan, just these moments of disruption and chaos. The fear is the federal government could dismantle the current safety net without putting anything new in its place.
Emmy Martinez
All right. That's NPR addiction correspondent Brian Mann. Brian, thank you for your reporting on this.
David Folkenflik
Thanks, Hay.
Emmy Martinez
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Episode Title: FBI Search Journalist's Home, U.S. Greenland Talks, Mental Health Funding
Hosts: Michelle Martin, Emmy Martinez
Contributors: David Folkenflik, Franco Ordonez, Brian Mann
This episode brings listeners up to speed on three major news stories:
Key Points & Insights:
“[Agents] seized two computers, one of which was her own personal computer, her Garmin smartwatch.”
— Brian Mann (02:26)
“There’s a whole pattern in this administration of trying to undermine an independent press in this country and impede their work one way or another.”
— Marty Barron, former WaPo executive editor (04:54)
Timestamps:
Key Points & Insights:
“It is clear that Trump wants to, quote, conquer the territory.”
— Michelle Martin (05:58)
“It is not a true narrative that we have, you know, Chinese warships all around the place. According to our intelligence, we haven't had a Chinese warship in Greenland for a decade or so.”
— Lars Løkke Rasmussen, Foreign Minister (06:37)
“What the President United States is proposing...is to throw the entire weight of the most powerful country in the world against a loyal ally...to get what he wants, to force them to give up Greenland.”
— Stuart Patrick (07:50)
“Greenland is very important for the national security, including of Denmark. And the problem is there’s not a thing that Denmark can do about it if Russia or China wants to occupy Greenland. But there’s everything we can do. You found that out last week with Venezuela.”
— President Trump (08:29)
Timestamps:
Key Points & Insights:
“The decision to slash the money came as a complete shock, and it triggered a huge political backlash.”
— Brian Mann (09:46)
“Across the country, nonprofits and people with mental health conditions are deeply alarmed, but hopeful that this money is being restored. That being said, this is hit after hit after hit.”
— Hannah Wesolowski, National Alliance on Mental Illness (10:27)
“We provide treatment, life saving treatment, because if people don’t get access to treatment, they just die. And that’s a fact.”
— Dr. Dan Lustic, addiction program director (11:20)
“People I’ve been talking to say the country feels rudderless with public health. On Tuesday, all these programs are being defunded. No one’s sure why. Now the money’s restored. Again, no clear explanation.”
— Brian Mann (12:01)
Timestamps:
“There’s a whole pattern in this administration of trying to undermine an independent press...” (04:54)
“It is not a true narrative that we have, you know, Chinese warships all around the place...” (06:37)
“What the President United States is proposing...to force them to give up Greenland.” (07:50)
“The problem is there’s not a thing that Denmark can do about it if Russia or China wants to occupy Greenland. But there’s everything we can do.” (08:29)
“If people don’t get access to treatment, they just die. And that’s a fact.” (11:20)
“People I’ve been talking to say the country feels rudderless with public health.” (12:01)
This episode provides a concise but essential briefing on threats to press freedom, shifting norms in global diplomacy, and instability in public health leadership, all under the lens of recent Trump administration actions. Each segment raises pressing questions for the days and weeks ahead, offering a panoramic view of the nation’s political and social challenges.