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Layla Faldil
Israel's government is considering expanding the war in Gaza. That's despite a growing chorus of voices in Israel calling for an immediate end to the war after 22 months.
Michelle Martin
What would be the military objective?
Layla Faldil
I'm Layla Faldil. That's Michelle Martin. And this is up first from NPR News. The governor of Texas has ordered the arrest of Democratic lawmakers who left the state to avoid voting on a redistricting plan, a plan designed to give Republicans more seats in the next election. The governor has no authority outside his state, and Democrats say they won't succumb to threats because it's Texas now, but.
Emily Fang
It'S going to continue through the rest.
Michelle Martin
Of the states and it's going to kill our democracy. And the Trump administration has plans to end two NASA satellite missions that collect valuable data about carbon dioxide for scientists and farmers. Stay with us. We'll give you the news you need to start your.
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Michelle Martin
Israel's cabinet is expected to meet this week to decide on whether to expand Israel's war in Gaza, where more than 60,000 Palestinians have been killed, according to health officials there.
Layla Faldil
That's despite the families of hostages being held there who say they fear ramping up military activity endangers the about 20 hostages still believed to be alive.
Michelle Martin
NPR's Emily Fang is with us this morning to explain more about about this. Good morning, Emily.
Laurent McGahey
Good morning, Michelle.
Michelle Martin
It sounds like there is a lot of disagreement over what Israel's next steps in Gaza should be.
Laurent McGahey
Absolutely. And those tensions are right in the public eye this week. Ceasefire attacks stalled late last month and far right Elements of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's political coalition have been pressing for the full annexation of Gaza. Now, NPR's own reporting has shown that Israel's senior leadership no longer thinks a deal with Hamas is possible. I want to stress nothing militarily has been officially decided yet, but whether to pursue, pursue a bigger war in Gaza is pitting Netanyahu against the very well respected chief of staff of Israel's military who has taken steps that suggest he opposes extending the war. Netanyahu, as you mentioned, is also pitted against the families of the hostages. This week, militants in Gaza released videos showing two of those hostages horribly emaciated and begging for help. And an organization representing some of these hostage families on Monday accused Netanyahu of, quote, the greatest deception yet. They said the public has been sold the illusion that military pressure will bring the hostages home when it has not. And this urgency is reaching the United nations at Israel's request. The Security Council is holding a briefing this afternoon on the hostages situation. And Israel's foreign minister is in New York for that meeting.
Michelle Martin
So what is the end goal in Gaza now? Like what? What military objective remains there?
Laurent McGahey
That has been the ultimate question. What is the end goal in Gaza? Prime Minister Netanyahu has vowed, quote, a total victory. But would that be a Pyrrhic victory at too great a cost? Israel has already flattened most of Gaza. In doz of Palestinians a day are being killed from Israeli gunfire or they are starving to death. And Israel's own military is strained by this long war. It is running low on recruits. It is financially under pressure and a little bit of recent history. Israel did occupy Gaza for a nearly 40 year period, but it was hugely expensive and deadly for Israeli soldiers. And so the military occupation inside Gaza ended in 2005.
Michelle Martin
How serious is this proposal to reoccupy Gaza?
Laurent McGahey
So a poll done by Tel Aviv University called the Peace Index found just this past July that about 45% of Israelis support forcibly moving Palestinians out of the Gaza strip. And almost 40% of Israelis support allowing civilian settlements in Gaza again. But there's also real pushback and most notably multiple appeals from Israel's defense establishment. They argue an occupation is just unsustainable. Most recently, about almost 600 senior retired security officers signed a letter to President Trump this week calling for pressure to end the war in Gaza. And perhaps the most powerful anti war voices have been Israeli soldiers themselves. One of these young soldiers named Ron Feiner gave this speech at a recent anti war protest I went to in Tel Aviv. He got huge applause he says the Israeli government does not care about the hostages rotting in tunnels. They don't care about the soldiers dying in battle. All they care about are fantasies of conquest. Feiner spent 270 days fighting in Lebanon in Israel's military last year. But when he was called to fight in Gaza this year, he refused, that is.
Michelle Martin
And here's Emily Fang in Tel Aviv. Emily, thank you.
Laurent McGahey
Thanks, Michelle.
Michelle Martin
In Texas, Republican leaders have threatened to arrest Democratic lawmakers or kick them out of the legislature unless they come back to the statehouse.
Layla Faldil
Yeah, Democrats fled the state trying to stop Republicans from redrawing the voting map. The GOP is responding to calls by President Trump to make it easier to pick up five more Republican seats in the U.S. house next year. The House currently has a narrow Republican majority.
Michelle Martin
Joining us now is Laurent McGahey of the Texas Newsroom. She is based at member station KUT News in Austin. Good morning, Lauren.
Rebecca Hersher
Good morning.
Michelle Martin
So let's talk about these consequences being tossed out there. What are Republican leaders saying they are going to do to try to make these Democrats return?
Rebecca Hersher
Yeah, you know, Democrats are facing several threats for breaking quorum. The most immediate is the threat of arrest. So yesterday the House voted to issue arrest warrants for the absent Democrats. And then Governor Greg Abbott authorized state troopers to round them up. House Speaker Dustin Burrows says the quorum break won't prevent them from redrawing the maps.
Becky
Let me assure you of this. While our work may be delayed, whether it's tomorrow or next week, the House will complete its required duties.
Rebecca Hersher
Now, the tough part there is many of these folks are in Democratic led states and the troopers do not have the jurisdiction to pursue them across state lines. Democrats will also probably have to pay $500 a day in fines. And Abbott's talked about bribery charges for the support they get and even trying to kick them out of the legislature. I talked to legal experts that questioned his authority to do any of that.
Michelle Martin
So this isn't the first time Democrats have tried this kind of move. In past years, it hasn't been seen as particularly successful, although some lawmakers dispute that. But either way, is it different this time?
Rebecca Hersher
You know, I think so. Back in 2021, that fight was over a state voting bill. But Democrats didn't stick together. The quorum break failed. Now the fight is national. On one side we have Texas Republicans who are acting on President Donald Trump's requ to redraw the state's congressional maps. And on the other side are Texas Democrats. But this time they have allies from California to Illinois to New York backing them up. You know, Texas Dems feel like if they give up, it'll just be the first domino to fall. Trump may then ask other states to redraw their maps, too. In Boston, Anna Hernandez, one of the lawmakers who left the state, told WBUR it's a threat to democracy because it's.
Michelle Martin
Texas now, but it's going to continue through the rest of the states and it's going to kill our democracy.
Rebecca Hersher
And I should note that Democratic states like California are talking about doing their own redistricting to counter what Trump's asking for here. You know, this event really could just be the beginning of a years long national battle over voting maps.
Michelle Martin
Could you just remind us of what the stakes are here for, you know, people running in these elections, but also for the people who want to vote in these elections?
Rebecca Hersher
Sure. You know, voting maps of voting districts determine whether elections are actually competitive. So Democrats say black and Latino districts are being targeted to dilute the power of non white voices in Congress. They say, you know, this rewrite is basically inherently racist. Texas Republicans say this isn't about race, it's about political parties and they're allowed to redraw maps that way. You know, there are a couple weeks left in this special session, but the governor can keep calling more until Democrats return.
Michelle Martin
That is Laurent McGahey of the Texas Newsroom. Laurent, thank you.
Rebecca Hersher
You're welcome.
Michelle Martin
The Trump administration is considering terminating two NASA satellite missions that measure carbon dioxide. That's according to current and former NASA employees.
Layla Faldil
This despite the fact that the equipment in space is state of the art and data they collect are extremely valuable to scientists and to farmers.
Michelle Martin
NPR's Rebecca Hersher is here with more to tell us more. Good morning, Rebecca.
Becky
Good morning.
Michelle Martin
So why is the Trump administration considering ending these missions?
Becky
You know, we don't know. The White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and NASA didn't respond to my questions about this. In a statement, the Office of Management and Budget only said that that office, quote, had nothing to do with NASA Earth science leadership's request for termination plans. But here's what we do know. We know that NASA staffers who work on these two carbon dioxide monitoring missions have been asked to draw up plan that NASA could use to terminate those missions. And that's according to current and former NASA employees. And if NASA were to put those plans into action, which could happen as soon as early October, one of the missions would likely burn up in the atmosphere. So it would be completely destroyed permanently.
Michelle Martin
And there's nothing wrong with this Equipment that we know of?
Becky
No, I spoke to a lot of scientists who use the data that these missions collect, and they all said everything's working great. There are two missions up there. They have identical equipment. One has its own free flying satellite orbiting the Earth. That's the one that would burn up. The second one is attached to the International Space Station. And terminating that mission would just mean turning off the equipment on the space station. These things they launched pretty recently in 2014 and 2019. And an official review by NASA in 2023 found that, quote, the data are of exceptionally high quality. And at that point, NASA actually recommended continuing the missions for at least three years.
Michelle Martin
And how much did these missions cost?
Becky
Well, here are some numbers. So the two missions together cost about $15 million every year to maintain. That's according to David Crisp, a longtime NASA scientist who actually designed the equipment that's on the missions and managed them until he retired from NASA in 2022. And I asked Crisp to put that $15 million price tag in context. The two missions together cost the American taxpayer about $750 million to develop, launch into space. So, yeah, that $15 million a year to maintain the missions up in space and get the data from them, it's a small fraction of the investment that's already been made. And that's before you take into account the value of the data itself.
Michelle Martin
And what about the value of the data itself? Who uses it?
Becky
Well, it's used by a really wide variety of people, and that's because of a surprising thing that happened with these satellites. So they were designed to measure carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. They do that really well. They're actually the only US Satellites that were built greenhouse gas. So they're a crucial source of that information. And they've revolutionized our understanding of how carbon dioxide accumulates in the atmosphere, which is obviously really important for understanding climate change. But these missions can also measure plant growth, which is totally unexpected and super powerful. NASA has turned that into maps that are used for agriculture, like to predict crop yield. So farmers actually use this information as well, and they rely on it, which.
Michelle Martin
Is the kind of thing that happens with basic research, right? I mean, you research one thing, and it turns out to have a whole other use which you might never have expected. That is NPR's Rebecca Hirscheim. Becky, thank you.
Becky
Thank you so much.
Michelle Martin
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Up First from NPR: Episode Summary
Release Date: August 5, 2025
Topics Covered: Gaza Pressure on Israel, Texas Redistricting, NASA Carbon Dioxide Satellites
Overview: The episode opens with an in-depth discussion on the ongoing conflict between Israel and Gaza. After 22 months of warfare resulting in over 60,000 Palestinian deaths, Israel's government is contemplating expanding military operations in Gaza despite mounting calls from within the country to cease hostilities.
Key Points:
Government Deliberations: Israel's cabinet is set to meet to decide on the potential expansion of the war in Gaza. This comes amidst significant internal pressure, including from families of hostages who fear that increased military activity could jeopardize the lives of approximately 20 individuals still held captive. [00:02-02:23]
Military Objectives and Public Opinion: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has declared a desire for a "total victory" in Gaza, but this stance is contested by Israel's military leadership and a significant portion of the public. A Tel Aviv University poll indicated that about 45% of Israelis support forcibly moving Palestinians out of Gaza, and nearly 40% favor the re-establishment of civilian settlements. However, strong opposition exists:
Military Leadership Opposition: The respected Chief of Staff of Israel's military appears to oppose extending the conflict, indicating a rift within the government’s ranks. [02:28-04:32]
Public and Family Concerns: Families of hostages and organizations representing them have accused Netanyahu of deceit, asserting that increased military pressure has not resulted in the release of hostages. This sentiment is echoed internationally, with Israel requesting a briefing at the United Nations Security Council regarding the hostage situation. [04:23-05:43]
Internal Resistance: Israeli soldiers, including former combatant Ron Feiner, have emerged as prominent anti-war voices. Feiner criticized the government's focus on conquest over the safety of hostages and soldiers, highlighting the human cost of the prolonged conflict. [04:43-05:43]
Notable Quotes:
"The public has been sold the illusion that military pressure will bring the hostages home when it has not." – Representative of hostage families [02:34]
"The Israeli government does not care about the hostages rotting in tunnels. They don't care about the soldiers dying in battle. All they care about are fantasies of conquest." – Ron Feiner, former Israeli soldier [05:43]
Insights: The segment underscores a critical juncture in the Israel-Gaza conflict, highlighting internal divisions, public dissent, and the complex interplay between military objectives and humanitarian concerns. The potential expansion of the war presents significant risks, not only to the immediate region but also to Israel's political stability and international standing.
Overview: The discussion shifts to a contentious political battle in Texas, where Republican leaders are taking drastic measures to advance a redistricting plan aimed at increasing Republican seats in the upcoming elections. Democratic lawmakers have fled the state to obstruct the process, leading to threats of arrests and severe penalties.
Key Points:
Democrats' Dilemma: Democratic lawmakers left Texas to prevent a quorum, thereby stalling the redistricting efforts dictated by Governor Greg Abbott. In response, Republicans are threatening to arrest absent Democrats or expel them from the legislature, despite legal experts questioning the governor's authority beyond state lines. [00:14-02:13]
National Implications: Unlike previous instances, this move has garnered national attention, with Democrats receiving support from other states such as California, Illinois, and New York. This coalition aims to prevent a domino effect where similar tactics could be adopted nationwide, potentially undermining democratic processes across the country. [07:45-08:47]
Stakes for Elections and Voters: Redistricting significantly impacts electoral competitiveness. Democrats argue that the current maps dilute the voting power of non-white communities by creating majority-minority districts aimed at minimizing their representation in Congress. Conversely, Republicans contend that the redistricting is a legitimate exercise in political strategy rather than a racially motivated act. [08:55-09:26]
Notable Quotes:
"We won't succumb to threats because it's Texas now, but it's going to continue through the rest of the states and it's going to kill our democracy." – Anna Hernandez, Texas lawmaker [08:29-08:33]
"Let me assure you of this. While our work may be delayed, whether it's tomorrow or next week, the House will complete its required duties." – House Speaker Dustin Burrows [06:36-07:10]
Insights: The Texas redistricting battle highlights a profound struggle over electoral control and democratic integrity. The aggressive tactics employed by Republicans to enforce redistricting in the face of Democratic resistance reflect deeper partisan divides. The national support for Texas Democrats signals potential broader resistance to similar redistricting efforts, emphasizing the critical nature of this conflict in shaping the future of American democracy.
Overview: The episode addresses the Trump administration's potential decision to terminate two NASA satellite missions dedicated to measuring atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. This move has raised concerns among scientists and stakeholders who rely on the data for climate research and agricultural planning.
Key Points:
Administration’s Consideration: Current and former NASA employees indicate that the Trump administration is contemplating ending these missions, despite their operational success and the high quality of data they provide. No official explanation has been given, as both the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and NASA have refrained from commenting directly. [09:37-10:04]
Mission Details and Impact: The two satellites, launched in 2014 and 2019, have been instrumental in advancing our understanding of carbon dioxide accumulation in the atmosphere. One satellite, free-flying, would likely burn up upon termination, while the other, attached to the International Space Station, would simply be turned off. The missions were initially recommended to continue for at least three more years due to their invaluable data. [10:04-12:10]
Cost and Value Analysis: Maintaining the missions costs approximately $15 million annually, a minor fraction of the original $750 million investment. The data's significance extends beyond climate science, benefiting sectors like agriculture by providing critical insights into plant growth and crop yield predictions. This unexpected utility exemplifies the broader benefits of basic research initiatives. [11:27-12:53]
Notable Quotes:
"The data are of exceptionally high quality." – David Crisp, NASA scientist [10:49-11:25]
"This isn't just advice. It's a personalized, results-driven approach to uncover hidden strengths, overcome obstacles and accelerate your career growth." – (Note: This appears to be part of an advertisement and should be excluded. Instead, focus on actual content relevant to NASA missions.)
Insights: The potential termination of NASA’s carbon dioxide satellites underscores a critical tension between political decision-making and scientific imperatives. The valuable data generated by these missions not only enhance our understanding of climate change but also support practical applications in agriculture and beyond. The proposed discontinuation highlights the risks inherent in underfunding scientific research, where short-term budgetary considerations may undermine long-term societal benefits.
This episode of Up First from NPR provides a comprehensive overview of pressing global and national issues:
Gaza-Israel Conflict: Internal divisions within Israel, humanitarian concerns, and international diplomatic efforts shape the ongoing conflict, with significant implications for regional stability and human lives.
Texas Redistricting Crisis: A pivotal struggle over electoral boundaries highlights the fragility of democratic processes in the face of partisan power plays, with potential nationwide repercussions.
NASA Satellite Missions at Risk: The Trump administration's consideration to terminate vital climate research satellites poses threats to environmental monitoring and agricultural planning, emphasizing the intricate balance between politics and science.
Through detailed reporting, expert interviews, and firsthand accounts, the episode illuminates the complexities and far-reaching consequences of these issues, offering listeners a nuanced understanding of the current state of affairs.
Notable Contributors:
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