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Steve Inskeep
Yeah, I think that's roughly right.
Michelle Martin
Good enough.
Steve Inskeep
I mean, in terms of time, obviously the facts were always exactly right.
Michelle Martin
That's what I'm saying.
Steve Inskeep
Absolutely correct.
Michelle Martin
President Trump cancels talks with Democrats as a shutdown deadline nears. Democrats say their demands are simple.
Jimmy Kimmel
Cancel the cuts, lower the costs, save health care.
Steve Inskeep
How does the standoff end?
Michelle Martin
I'm Michelle Martin. That's Steve Inskeep. And this is up first from NPR News. The president changed his stance on Russia, saying they are losing on the battlefield and the US Will keep sending weapons for Ukraine.
Steve Inskeep
It could be that Russia is a paper tiger.
Michelle Martin
How could he back that up?
Steve Inskeep
And also, Jimmy Kimmel returned to abc.
Jimmy Kimmel
You understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.
Steve Inskeep
He said the president mocked him for low ratings, but that just guaranteed big ratings for him last night. Stay with us. We've got the news. You need to start your day.
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Steve Inskeep
Said much up to now about the threat of a government shutdown at the end of the month. There is so often a threat at this time of year, and it doesn't always happen. But we have reached the point where we need to pay attention.
Michelle Martin
That's in part because President Trump canceled a meeting with Democratic leaders to discuss a possible government funding deal. Negotiations seem to be stuck. The top House Democrat, Hakeem Jeffries, insists any funding bill must address health care.
Jimmy Kimmel
Our position is not complicated. Cancel the cuts, lower the costs, save health care.
Steve Inskeep
NPR congressional correspondent Deirdre Walsh joins us once again. Deirdre, good morning.
Deirdre Walsh
Good morning, Steve.
Steve Inskeep
Okay, so they should have been passing a one year appropriations. They're not doing that. They're talking about a short term extension. And Democrats want to add this, this thing on health care. And why did the president pull out of the meeting?
Deirdre Walsh
Well, he posted a lengthy message on social media as he does, saying that demands from Democrats about attaching those health care provisions were, quote, unserious. And he said no meeting could possibly be productive. Hill Republicans propose what Democrats have voted for in the past, a straight extension of current funding levels through November 21st to get to this broader spending deal that narrowly passed in the House last week. But it didn't get the 60 votes it needs in the Senate.
Steve Inskeep
Oh yeah. Thanks for the reminder. Republicans have the majority, but in the Senate you need more than a majority. So what are the demands that Democrats are making?
Deirdre Walsh
Well, they put out an alternative bill that also failed to advance last week. They want to extend tax credits that are part of the Affordable Care Act. Those help middle and working class Americans buy health care plans and they expire on December 31st. Democrats also want to roll back the Medicaid changes that were part of the president's tax bill that he signed in July. The president says those are all non starters.
Steve Inskeep
Okay. Is there any way to avoid a shutdown then?
Deirdre Walsh
It seems unlikely. You know, Congress can work sometimes at the very last minute facing a deadline to get something done. But there are no talks at this point. Republicans insist Democrats just have to back the seven week funding bill without other policy demands on it. Congress is on recess this week, but next Monday when they get back in the Senate, the majority leader John Thune says he's going to bring up that stopgap bill again for a vote. They need seven Democrats to get to 60 votes. So far they only have one. There are some Republicans who agree with Democrats that Congress needs to do some kind of extension of health care subsidies. But since those don't expire until December, they say that debate shouldn't be linked to this funding bill. That issue could be some kind of off ramp to this stalemate.
Steve Inskeep
Oh, okay. Well, thanks for telling us. There might be something, even though we don't exactly know. But let's talk this through. The dynamic in recent years, many recent years, is that Republicans seem eager to shut the government down or partial shutdown. Sometimes they actually go through with it and they do it. They lead the the way sometimes they even say they like it. They've even done it when they had full control of government. But this time it is the Democrats who are making an extra demand and saying they might be willing to shut it all down. What changed?
Deirdre Walsh
I mean, the politics are really the driving factor right now for Democrats. Back in March, the top Senate Democrat, Chuck Schumer, infuriated the base when he helped Republicans avoid a shutdown. Now he's arguing that Democrats are fighting to protect health care. The base really does want this fight. And denying Republicans the vote they need to advance a bill in the Senate is really the only power they have in the minority. So I anticipate we're going to just see this continued messaging war. Republicans are branding this a Schumer shutdown. If a shutdown happens, both sides are pretty hard line in their different positions. So it's going to be difficult to see how we could get out of it.
Steve Inskeep
And Pierce, Deirdre Walsh, thanks for your insights as always.
Deirdre Walsh
Thanks, Steve.
Steve Inskeep
The president has again adjusted his stance toward Russia. He has sometimes reached out and sometimes threatened President Vladimir Putin.
Michelle Martin
Before backing off at the United nations yesterday, Trump seemed to revert to the old bipartisan approach taken by President Biden, get weapons to Ukraine and let them fight it out with Russia. He called Russia, quote, a paper tiger and says he now believes Ukraine, with European help, can win back all of its territory.
Steve Inskeep
NPR diplomatic correspondent Michelle Kellerman has been covering the United nations meeting in New York.
Michelle Kellerman
Michelle Gambler, Good morning, Steve.
Steve Inskeep
What changed here?
Michelle Kellerman
Well, mostly who he was meeting with. He met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and European leaders at the UN and, you know, it wasn't so long ago that Trump invited Russian President Vladimir Putin to a summit in Alaska and told the world that they made progress. And he touted this fantastic relationship with Putin that he had. Since then, Putin has ramped up attacks on Ukrainian cities, sent drones and fighter jets over Poland and Estonia. Both NATO countries and the Europeans have said that this clearly shows that Russia is not interested in diplomacy. Trump seemed to take in that message. He also seems to realize that Russia is not winning. It's taking a lot of losses on the battlefield and Russia's economy is suffering.
Steve Inskeep
Well, this is very interesting. So Trump ends up closer to Zelensky's view of the situation after meeting with Zelenskyy. And I guess the Ukrainian president also spoke in public yesterday, right?
Michelle Kellerman
Yeah, he was at the UN Security Council. And he too painted Putin as the obstacle to peace. Let's listen to just part of his remarks to the Security Council, one of the prominent members of this council is.
Mandali del Barco
Doing everything to prolong the largest war in Europe since World War II.
Michelle Kellerman
Russia does this with impunity, using its veto power, buying influence and keeping peace on hold. And he said he thinks Russia would listen to the U.S. he said he had good talks with Trump about that. Secretary of State Marco Rubio was also there at the council. And he said, well, Trump is a very patient man. That patience is not infinite. He said the US Might impose more sanctions on Russia or might sell more weapons, including offensive weapons, Rubio said to Ukraine. And that might be some of what Trump was hinting at in that social media post when he called Russia a paper tiger and said that Ukraine could fight to get back all of its territory or even more, he hinted.
Steve Inskeep
What are you hearing from the Russians about all of this?
Michelle Kellerman
Well, Vladimir Putin doesn't come to the U.N. he sent his foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, who will be addressing the General assembly later this week. And he's expected to meet with Rubio today.
Steve Inskeep
Okay. So one other thing, Michelle, to ask about. You're there at the United nations, leaders from all over the world show up even if Vladimir Putin does not. Who else are you paying attention to?
Michelle Kellerman
Well, today for the first time since 1967, a Syrian leader is going to be addressing the General Assembly. That's Ahmed Al Sharra. He's a rebel leader who actually set up the Syrian affiliate of Al Qaeda before rebranding himself as more moderate. And he took over after Bashar al Assad was ousted and fled to Moscow. And he's been kind of on a charm offensive here. So all eyes are going to be on him today.
Steve Inskeep
Well, we'll listen for more of your reporting then as the days go on. Michelle, thanks so much.
Michelle Kellerman
Thank you.
Steve Inskeep
NPR's Michelle Kellerman is covering the United nations in New York. Jimmy Kimmel returned to the airwaves last.
Michelle Martin
Night, at least he did in most cities. ABC brought back the comic a week after suspending his show over remarks after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. There was so much anticipation. Even fellow late night host Stephen Colbert joked on his show that everyone but his wife was watching Kimmel.
Steve Inskeep
NPR's Mendelee del Barco was watching Kimmel from Los Angeles. Hi there, Mendelee. Hello. I should note two major groups of affiliates refuse to air this in some cities. So people need to know what happened.
Mandali del Barco
Well, at times, Jimmy Kimmel was very emotional. He thanked the network and also those who supported his free speech rights, including those he doesn't always agree with. Like Senator Ted Cruz. Kimmel also thanked his fellow late night hosts, past and present. And he said some comedians in other countries don't enjoy America's freedoms.
Jimmy Kimmel
What is important is that we get to live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.
Steve Inskeep
That was part of the criticism of the criticism here. He was attacked by the fcc, which pressured abc. But what did he say about the lines that made people angry?
Mandali del Barco
Well, Kimmel said that he wanted to clear up what he had said about Charlie Kirk and his alleged assassin last week.
Jimmy Kimmel
You understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man. I don't think there's anything funny about it. I posted a message on Instagram of the day he was killed sending love to his family and asking for compassion. And I meant it and I still do. Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual. That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make. But I understand that to some that felt either ill timed or unclear or maybe both. And for those who think I did point a finger, I get why you're upset.
Mandali del Barco
And Kimmel choked up about Charlie Kirk's grieving widow.
Jimmy Kimmel
On Sunday, Erica Kirk forgave the man who shot her husband. She forgave him. That is an example we should follow.
Steve Inskeep
Okay, so Kimmel is back. Although President Trump had celebrated his departure and seemed to want other late night hosts out. How's he responding?
Mandali del Barco
Yeah, well, on Truth Social, Trump posted that he couldn't believe ABC let Kimmel back on the air. He thought the show had been canceled. Last year, ABC settled a defamation lawsuit with Trump. And now the president seemed to be threatening the network again. He wrote, quote, last time I went after them, they gave me $16 million. I this one sounds even more lucrative. But you know, Steve, for his part, Jimmy Kimmel continued to mock Trump.
Jimmy Kimmel
He tried, did his best to cancel me. Instead, he forced millions of people to watch the show that backfired bigly. He might have to release the Epstein files to distract us from this now.
Mandali del Barco
And Steve, I want to mention one other thing that happened last night. It was a nod to the past. In 1960, Jack Par was hosting the Tonight Show. And the story goes that he made a joke that NBC didn't like. The executives edited it out. And Par was so furious about being censored that he walked off the set of his next show. Three weeks went by. NBC reportedly apologized to Parr. And when he returned to the show.
Deirdre Walsh
He said this as I was saying.
Michelle Kellerman
Before I was interrupted.
Mandali del Barco
Those were also the first words Jimmy Kimmel said when he came back, as.
Jimmy Kimmel
I was saying before I was interrupted.
Steve Inskeep
And there's Mandali del Barco. Thanks so much.
Mandali del Barco
Thank you.
Jimmy Kimmel
Now, a lot of people have been asking me if there are conditions for my return to the air. And there is one. Disney has asked me to read the following statement and I agreed to do it. Here we go. To reactivate your Disney and Hulu account.
Steve Inskeep
And that's a first for this Wednesday, September 24th. I'm Steve Inske.
Michelle Martin
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Steve Inskeep
Today's up first was edited by Kelsey Snell, Tara Neal, Kevin Drew, Mohamed El Bardisi and Alice Wolfley. It was produced by Ziad Bach, Nia Dumas and Christopher Thomas. We get engineering support, support from Damien Herring. And our technical director is Carly Strange. Join us tomorrow.
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This episode delivers the three top news stories of the day: a looming government shutdown and failed negotiations in Washington, President Trump’s dramatic shift on Russia at the United Nations General Assembly, and Jimmy Kimmel’s emotional return to late-night television after controversy. The episode unpacks partisan standoffs in Congress, how U.S. foreign policy is fluctuating under Trump, and free speech debates in entertainment.
Timestamps: 02:25–06:07
Notable Quote:
“Our position is not complicated. Cancel the cuts, lower the costs, save health care.”
— Hakeem Jeffries (via Jimmy Kimmel), 02:49
Timestamps: 06:15–09:41
Notable Quotes:
“It could be that Russia is a paper tiger.”
— Steve Inskeep, 00:40
“He called Russia, quote, a paper tiger and says he now believes Ukraine, with European help, can win back all of its territory.”
— Michelle Martin, 06:23
“Russia does this with impunity, using its veto power, buying influence and keeping peace on hold.”
— Volodymyr Zelensky (via Michelle Kellerman), 08:02
Timestamps: 09:41–13:26
Notable Quotes:
“You understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man. I don’t think there’s anything funny about it.”
— Jimmy Kimmel, 11:05
“On Sunday, Erica Kirk forgave the man who shot her husband. She forgave him. That is an example we should follow.”
— Jimmy Kimmel, 11:51
The conversation balances urgency, insight, and a touch of humor, reflecting NPR’s calm yet engaging approach to daily news. The hosts maintain a conversational yet authoritative tone, and moments of levity (especially around late-night TV) break up heavier political analysis.
This episode threads together critical U.S. governance challenges, urgent international developments, and the cultural pulse of the nation—all before 7 a.m. It is especially valuable for listeners seeking a concise yet thorough breakdown of high-stakes stories shaping the day.