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Amy Martinez
Protests in Boston over the arrest of a Tufts University student by ICE agents. When immigrants are under attack, what do we do?
Michelle Martin
Is the Trump administration targeting students just for criticizing Israel?
Amy Martinez
I'm Amy Martinez. That's Michelle Martin. And this is up first from NPR News. The Trump administration plans to cut 20,000 jobs from the Department of Health and Human Services.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
We have two goals. The first is obvious to save the taxpayer money. And the second is to radically improve our quality of service.
Amy Martinez
Can they really cut that deep without hurting critical services?
Michelle Martin
And President Trump keeps House Republican slim majority intact by pulling Elise Stefanik's nomination for UN Ambassador. Plus, Steve Inskeep is in China where he's seeing how American tariffs are changing business in one of the world's largest trading hubs. Stay with us. We'll give you the news you need to start your day. Foreign.
Adrian Florido
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Michelle Martin
Secretary of State Marco Rubio says the U.S. has revoked hundreds of visas as part of a crackdown on student activists who opposed Israel's war in Gaza.
Amy Martinez
Outside Boston this week, about 2,000 people took to the streets to call on the government to free Tufts University student Rumesa Ozturk.
Michelle Martin
When immigrants are under attack, what do we do?
Amy Martinez
Stand up like that when immigrants Immigration agents in plain clothes and face masks arrested Ozturk off the street and planned to deport her. She's the latest foreign born student taken into custody as the Trump administration goes after university protesters.
Michelle Martin
NPR's Adrian Florido has been tracking these developments, and he's with us now. Good morning, Adrian.
Adrian Florido
Good morning, Michelle.
Michelle Martin
So, Adrienne, tell us more about Ramesa Ozturk and what happened to her.
Adrian Florido
Well, I'll start with what happened. It was Tuesday. A security camera captured it. Oesterk is about to cross the street on her way to dinner to break the Ramadan fast with friends. Six agents surround her and one grabs her arm. Ozturk screams a visibly terror terrified as agents handcuff her and lead her to an unmarked car. She is Turkish and a PhD student at Tufts on a student visa. She's been involved in pro Palestinian activism. Last year, she published an op ed criticizing her school's leaders for not condemning the war in Gaza or cutting economic ties with Israel.
Michelle Martin
Okay, so here's the critical question. Do we know if that op ed is why immigration agents arrested her?
Adrian Florido
Not precisely. But the Department of Homeland Security said that Uzturk has, quote, engaged in activities in support of Hamas. DHS has offered no evidence of this. Her lawyer calls those allegations baseless. She says Ozturk is a gifted student and Fulbright scholar studying child development. But last night, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said he personally revoked her visa after assessing her activities.
Marco Rubio
The activities presented to me meet the standard of what I've just described to you. People that are supportive of movements that run counter to the foreign policy of the United States, if necessary, and a court compels us will provide that information. But ultimately, it's a visa. Judges don't issue student visas. There is no right to a student visa.
Adrian Florido
Ostuk, after her arrest, was quickly flown to a detention center in Louisiana. Michelle and her lawyer is fighting to free her.
Michelle Martin
And, of course, I think many people may remember that Mahmoud Khalil was arrested at Columbia University three weeks ago on similar accusations after the Secretary of State decided to revoke his green card. Now, let me remind here that he is a legal, permanent, residential, not a student visa holder, and he's married to an American citizen. Other students and scholars have also been pursued or arrested. So how wide is this dragnet?
Adrian Florido
Well, yesterday, Rubio said that he has revoked hundreds of visas, many of them student visas, making those people immediately deportable. Here he is again.
Marco Rubio
We are not going to be importing activists into the United States. They're here to study. They're here to go to class. They're not here to lead activist movements that are disruptive and undermine our universities. I think it's lunacy to continue to allow that.
Adrian Florido
Rubio is delivering on President Trump's promise. Michelle. To deport noncitizens whose activism he claims supports Hamas terrorism and is anti Semitic. Trump has taken special aim at universities, saying they're infested with radicalism. He's demanded that schools crack down on protests and is pressuring them with funding cuts or threats of funding cuts. Student activists say this is all about muzzling dissent and free speech, and that these deportation arrests are about spreading terror and punishing students for their political beliefs. And they say that the arrests are unconstitutional and lawyers are fighting them.
Michelle Martin
And what might be next for these students who've been targeted?
Adrian Florido
Well, like I said, their lawyers are fighting in federal courts and immigration courts to prevent their deportations. Some are making constitutional arguments leaning on the First Amendment right to free speech. The government is also aggressively defending its authority, though, to revoke the legal status of these students and to expel them.
Michelle Martin
That is NPR's Adrian Florido. Adrian, thank you.
Adrian Florido
Thanks, Michelle.
Michelle Martin
The Trump administration plans to restructure the Department of Health and Human services and cut 20,000 employees.
Amy Martinez
HHS is the umbrella agency that includes the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Medicare and Medicaid, the National Institutes of Health, and a lot more.
Michelle Martin
NPR Selena Simmons Duffin has been reporting on these plans and what they mean, and she is with us now. Good morning.
Selena Simmons Duffin
Good morning, Michelle.
Michelle Martin
So Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Announced this plan yesterday. What's he trying to do?
Selena Simmons Duffin
Well, Secretary Kennedy says HHS is a huge bureaucracy filled with silos and that he wants to streamline things. Here he is in a video he posted to social media.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
We have two goals. The first is obvious to save the taxpayer money by making our department more efficient. And the second is to radically improve our quality of service.
Selena Simmons Duffin
He says they'll do that by consolidating administrative work like IT and human resources, but that the restructuring won't affect the work the agencies do. Kennedy draws a direct line between the problems with America's overall health and the way HHS has been set up.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
I think most Americans would agree with me that throwing more money at health care isn't going to solve the problem, or it would have solved it already. Obviously, what we've been doing hasn't worked. That's why we're making this dramatic overhaul.
Michelle Martin
Okay. So, Selena, these plans were just announced, but what's been the reaction so far?
Selena Simmons Duffin
My inbox was flooded with shocked responses yesterday from Democratic lawmakers, nurses groups, public health groups, advocates for seniors. They say this isn't an overhaul, it's a wrecking ball. I asked former HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius for her reaction. She was incredulous that Kennedy thinks he can cut HHS staff so steeply and not affect services.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Well, that's what I find so incredibly insulting to me.
Elena Moore
What they're saying is there are 20,000.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
People working for HHS who do nothing.
Selena Simmons Duffin
She was especially critical of the plan to cut the number of regional offices from 10 to 5 and to combine certain agencies like she questioned how it would help efficiency to combine cdc, which is in Atlanta, with the Strategic Preparedness Agency, which is in D.C. do we.
Michelle Martin
Know yet which agencies are going to be the most affected?
Selena Simmons Duffin
It looks like the steepest cuts are coming from CDC and fda. Also a lesser known agency called the Administration for Community Living, which helps seniors and people with disabilities live independently. They do work like meal delivery, transportation support for caregivers. Under the plans, that agency will be dismantled and its, quote, critical services will get spread out over a few different agencies. So employees whose jobs are getting cut could get notices as soon as today with the cuts effective in May. And HHS did not respond to NPR's request for an interview with Secretary Kennedy or give answers to a list of questions about the plans.
Michelle Martin
So presumably some people do support these plans. So what do Kennedy's supporters or supporters of these plans say?
Selena Simmons Duffin
Republican lawmakers have been fairly quiet so far, especially compared to Democratic members of Congress who have quickly put together press conferences, quote, sounding the alarm about this plan. Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, the Republican chair of the Health Committee, did not respond to NPR's request for comment. What Republicans have said is that the details aren't out yet, that they believe there is administrative sprawl at hhs, that it can be streamlined and that they trust Kennedy.
Michelle Martin
That is NPR health correspondent Selena Simmons. Definitely Selena. Thank you.
Selena Simmons Duffin
You're welcome.
Michelle Martin
Republicans on Capitol Hill have worked quickly to confirm President Trump's cabinet nominees.
Amy Martinez
Yes, some have faced contentious battles, others have sailed right through Senate votes. There was only one pick left to appear front of the Senate, and that was New York Congresswoman Elise Stefanik, President Trump's choice to be ambassador to the United Nations. But that changed yesterday when he pulled her nomination, saying he's asked her to stay in the House of Representatives.
Michelle Martin
Here to explain why is NPR political reporter Alina Moore. She's here with me in our studios. Good morning.
Elena Moore
Good morning.
Michelle Martin
So Elise Stefanik's nomination was expected to be an easy vote. So what happened?
Elena Moore
Well, Stefanik is a close ally of the president and she's really been seen as a rising star within the party. She was elected in 2014 and at the time was the youngest woman ever elected to Congress. She was a vocal Trump defender during his 2019 impeachment hearing and later rose to a top leadership position within the party. All of this was supposed to make her confirmation process appear easy. The problem, it turned out Michelle, wasn't Stefanik, but House Republicans and their razor thin majority you know, on most bills, the party can only afford to lose one or two votes. And, you know, there was a chance Stefanic's departure would only make things harder, which, you know, Trump decided was too risky. He wrote on social media yesterday that Republicans needed to maintain every seat they can.
Michelle Martin
Okay, but Republicans have known about their razor thin majority as far back as November, when Trump picked Stefanik. So why now?
Elena Moore
Yeah, I mean, well, since the fall, two other Republicans have left office. Former Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz, who resigned before the start of the term, and former former Florida Congressman Mike Waltz, who now serves as Trump's national security adviser. Special elections are underway for both of those seats, and Republicans are easily expected to hold on in Gates's district. But the race for Waltz's seat is shaping up to be way more competitive than expected. And, you know, Stefanik won her race by double digits last fall. But, you know, the decision to withdraw her nomination shows that Republicans just don't want to take any more risks right now in any more races, especially when there's still a long to do list on Capitol Hill. You know, Trump has done a lot by executive action, but in terms of legislation, it's a different story. Republicans want to make Trump's 2017 tax cuts permanent. They also want more funding for defense and the president's immigration agenda. So, again, Michelle, this really is a reminder of just how fragile the GOP majority in the House is right now.
Michelle Martin
What's been the reaction on Capitol Hill?
Elena Moore
Well, for her part, Stefanik told Fox News last night that she supported Trump's decision.
Michelle Martin
I have been proud to be a team player. The president knows that. He and I had multiple conversations today, and we are committed to delivering results on behalf of the American people.
Elena Moore
House Speaker Mike Johnson has invited Stefanik back to House GOP leadership, but it's unclear what role that may be since her old job has since been filled. And, you know, though Johnson expressed enthusiasm about having her back on the Democratic side there, framing this whole moment pretty differently. In a statement from House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, he said, quote, house Republicans are running scared.
Michelle Martin
That is NPR political reporter Elena Moore. Elena, thank you.
Elena Moore
Thanks.
Michelle Martin
Just about every day we learn of new tariffs threatened or imposed by the United States. President Trump ordered tariffs on auto imports this week, sending the stock market falling. Next week, the administration promises new tariff numbers for every country based on a calculation of tariffs that they charge 20%. Tariffs are already in effect on goods from China. And Steve Inskip has been talking with some of the sellers. Hello there, friend.
Steve Inskeep
Hi, There, friend.
Michelle Martin
So where have you been?
Steve Inskeep
Well, we've been visiting the source of your stuff, Michelle. Things like hairpins, pots and pans, toys. You've got a grill, don't you? You got a grill?
Michelle Martin
I do. And pots and pans.
Steve Inskeep
Okay. Well, we saw a place where they sell enormous numbers of grills. A lot of that kind of consumer stuff comes to America through a Chinese, Chinese trading city called Yiwu Y I W u Yiwu, where thousands of wholesalers ship products from nearby factories. Our tour through this area gave us a little bit of news. How some Chinese businesses are responding to those tariffs. And also a picture of life. This international trading market is like a shopping mall next to a shopping mall next to a shopping mall. And I walked through with our colleague Rina Advani, and we recorded as we went. Let's just listen to a little bit of that.
Elena Moore
Umbrellas.
Unknown
They're all made here.
Steve Inskeep
So there's an umbrella store. Nothing but umbrellas.
Amy Martinez
And there is yoga mats, chairs.
Unknown
It looks like parasols, all sorts of things.
Steve Inskeep
Here you can find light bulbs, like a light bulb store. That's what they sell shop after shop after shop. And then we settled in at a display room for hardware. I've been going around the store just writing down things that are for sale. Spades, saws, staplers, caulk guns, garden shears, wire cutters, bolt cutters, garden hose nozzles.
Michelle Martin
Okay, Steve, sounds like a shopper's paradise, but what did you learn about tariffs?
Steve Inskeep
That the Chinese suppliers of our goods are dealing with those tariffs in different ways. The hardware store seller who's selling screwdrivers, jackhammers, any number of things, says she thinks that her tools are in demand and that American consumers are just gonna pay more. She's not changing her prices.
Michelle Martin
Well, that's what economists say will happen with tariffs, that it's a tax that Americans will pay.
Steve Inskeep
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She says she's just gonna improve the packaging and marketing a little bit. But with that said, we also heard some stories of people who have lost business or agreed to make some trade offs.
Michelle Martin
Okay, what do you mean by that?
Steve Inskeep
Well, for example, a seller of hairpins and claw clips told us she had an order from Target and they said, would you pick up half the cost of the tariffs? She tried to negotiate and they delayed the order. She's losing the business. We also met a guy who sells thousands and thousands of toys made on 3D printers. He says one of his clients asked for half the tariffs to be paid by him. He said, sure, his business is expanding. And regardless, tariffs or not, he is raising his prices.
Michelle Martin
So what's the bottom line here?
Steve Inskeep
That there is a give and take, I guess. It seems like suppliers will, in fact pay some of the tariffs, but American consumers will, too. And it's also clear to us from here that China has some options. They sell all over the world, including outside of the United States in a rapidly changing marketplace.
Michelle Martin
That's Steve Inskeep speaking to us from Shanghai. Steve, thank you.
Steve Inskeep
You're welcome, Michelle. It's good to talk with.
Michelle Martin
What do Mudang, the Pygmy hippo, social media sensation Hawktua Girl and the president of the United States all have in common? They've all inspired meme coins, which are a valuable, highly volatile type of cryptocurrency.
Unknown
I mean, I definitely would say this is just gambling. Everyone involved would agree with that, I think.
Steve Inskeep
But it's a really weird form of gambling.
Michelle Martin
This Sunday on Up first, understanding the meme coin boom, how does it work, and who are the winners and losers in this gamble? Listen to the Sunday story right here on NPR's Upverse podcast cast. And that's up first for Friday, March 28th.
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Today's episode of up first was edited by Eric Westervelt, Jane Greenhalgh, Jason Breslow, Reena Advani, Arizu Rezvani, and Mohammed El Bardisi. It was produced by Ziad Baj, Milton Gabara Owen so Nia Dumas and Christopher Thomas. We get engineering support from Nisha Hyness and our technical director, Stacy Abbott. Our executive producer is Jay Shaler.
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Up First from NPR: ICE Student Arrests, HHS Cuts, Stefanik Nomination Pulled, China Trade City
Release Date: March 28, 2025
NPR's Up First delivers a comprehensive summary of the day's most pressing news stories. In this episode, hosts Amy Martinez, Michelle Martin, and other NPR correspondents delve into four major topics: the Trump administration's crackdown on student activists, substantial job cuts within the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), the withdrawal of Elise Stefanik's nomination for UN Ambassador, and the impact of U.S. tariffs on Chinese trade.
The episode opens with alarming reports of increased arrests of foreign-born students involved in pro-Palestinian activism. The focal point is the arrest of Rumesa Ozturk, a Turkish PhD student at Tufts University, by ICE agents.
Protests and Arrest:
Amy Martinez introduces the issue at [00:03], highlighting protests in Boston over Ozturk's arrest. Michelle Martin questions whether the Trump administration is targeting students for their political beliefs, particularly criticisms of Israel ([00:12]).
Details of the Arrest:
Adrian Florido provides a vivid account of Ozturk's arrest captured on a security camera ([02:04]). Ozturk, a Fulbright scholar studying child development, was involved in activism supporting Palestine. Despite her academic achievements, Secretary of State Marco Rubio revoked her visa, alleging she supported activities linked to Hamas without providing concrete evidence ([03:15]).
Government's Stance vs. Legal Challenges:
Secretary Rubio defends the administration's actions, stating, “We are not going to be importing activists into the United States” ([03:46]). However, Ozturk and others challenge these arrests as unconstitutional and a suppression of free speech, leading to ongoing legal battles ([05:24]).
Broader Implications:
The segment draws parallels with the recent arrest of Mahmoud Khalil at Columbia University, emphasizing a broader pattern of targeting university protesters ([04:09]). The administration claims these actions are necessary to maintain the integrity of U.S. policies, while critics argue it stifles dissent and academic freedom.
The Trump administration announced a significant restructuring of the Department of Health and Human Services, aiming to cut 20,000 jobs.
Announcement and Goals:
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. outlined the plan to streamline HHS by consolidating administrative functions such as IT and human resources, with the stated goals of saving taxpayer money and improving service quality ([06:16]). Kennedy emphasized, “Throwing more money at health care isn't going to solve the problem” ([06:55]).
Reactions and Criticism:
The proposal has met with fierce opposition from Democratic lawmakers, healthcare professionals, and advocacy groups. Selena Simmons Duffin reports that former HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius criticized the plan as unrealistic, questioning how cutting regional offices would enhance efficiency ([07:08]).
Impact on Agencies:
The most significant cuts are anticipated in the CDC, FDA, and the Administration for Community Living. Critics argue that dismantling these agencies would disrupt essential services for public health and vulnerable populations ([08:06]).
Political Response:
Republican lawmakers have largely remained silent, with some expressing tentative support pending further details. Senator Bill Cassidy, Chair of the Health Committee, has yet to comment directly, but general Republican sentiment suggests trust in Kennedy's leadership and the necessity of reducing administrative sprawl ([08:50]).
In a surprising move, President Trump withdrew the nomination of Congresswoman Elise Stefanik for the role of U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations.
Background on Stefanik:
Elena Moore explains that Stefanik, a close ally of Trump and a rising star within the GOP, was expected to be an easy nominee due to her strong support for the president and leadership position within the party ([10:05]).
Reason for Withdrawal:
The decision was influenced by the House Republicans' slim majority, which makes every seat crucial for passing legislation. With upcoming special elections for other Republican seats becoming more competitive, Trump decided to keep Stefanik in the House to avoid jeopardizing GOP control ([11:05]).
Political Repercussions:
Stefanik expressed her support for Trump's decision, stating, “The president knows that. He and I had multiple conversations today, and we are committed to delivering results” ([12:16]). House Speaker Mike Johnson has invited her back to GOP leadership, though her exact role remains unclear ([12:32]).
Democratic Response:
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries criticized the move, suggesting it indicates that “house Republicans are running scared” ([12:58]).
The episode also touches on the ongoing trade tensions between the U.S. and China, focusing on how tariffs are affecting Chinese businesses and American consumers.
Tariff Implementation:
President Trump has been actively imposing new tariffs, including recent ones on auto imports, leading to volatility in the stock market ([13:07]).
Steve Inskeep's Report from Yiwu, China:
Steve Inskeep travels to Yiwu, a major trading hub in China, to observe firsthand the impact of tariffs on local businesses. He notes that while some sellers maintain their prices, believing American consumers will bear the increased costs, others face significant challenges.
Business Responses:
Sellers report a mix of strategies:
Economic Implications:
The tariffs result in a dual impact where both Chinese suppliers and American consumers face increased costs. Moreover, China's ability to diversify its markets mitigates some of the tariff effects, demonstrating the complex dynamics of international trade ([16:11]).
This episode of Up First provides a thorough examination of significant political and economic developments shaping the current landscape. From the administration's stringent actions against student activists to sweeping changes within HHS, the withdrawal of a key ambassadorial nomination, and the nuanced effects of international tariffs, NPR delivers insightful analysis and diverse perspectives. Notable quotes from key figures such as Marco Rubio and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. underscore the contentious nature of these issues, reflecting the deep divisions and strategic calculations within U.S. politics today.
Notable Quotes:
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on HHS Cuts ([06:31]):
“We have two goals. The first is obvious to save the taxpayer money by making our department more efficient. And the second is to radically improve our quality of service.”
Marco Rubio on Visa Revocations ([03:46]):
“We are not going to be importing activists into the United States. They're here to study. They're here to go to class. They're not here to lead activist movements that are disruptive and undermine our universities. I think it's lunacy to continue to allow that.”
Elise Stefanik on Nomination Withdrawal ([12:16]):
“I have been proud to be a team player. The president knows that. He and I had multiple conversations today, and we are committed to delivering results on behalf of the American people.”
For more detailed analysis and updates, subscribe to Up First and support NPR here.