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Rob Schmitz
A 60 day ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon has gone into effect.
A Martinez
This has been the deadliest conflict between.
Lauren Frayer
Israel and Hezbollah in decades. So what happens now for people displaced by war?
Rob Schmitz
I'm Rob Schmitz. That's a Martinez. And this is up first from NPR News. Security forces dispersed thousands of protesters in Pakistan's capital last night.
A Martinez
All you could see was tear gas and it was just a lot of chaos.
Rob Schmitz
They're demanding jailed former Prime Minister Imran Khan be released. Will they get their way?
Lauren Frayer
And President Elect Trump has threatened tariffs against Canada, Mexico and China in a bid to stem the flow of fentanyl and unauthorized migrants.
Brian Mann
That is an unachievable goal.
Dia Hadid
No country will accomplish that.
Lauren Frayer
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Rob Schmitz
The deal aims to end the fighting across the Israeli Lebanese border that has killed thousands of people since it was ignited by the war in Gaza last year. It was brokered by the US And France and announced by President Biden.
Lauren Frayer
For more on the deal, we're joined now by NPR's Lauren Frayer in Sidon in southern Lebanon. So, Lauren, people were celebrating the ceasefire in Beirut. What was it scene like?
Dia Hadid
Yeah, I was going to set my alarm for 4am Turns out I didn't need to. I was awoken by this celebratory gunfire erupting across the city, sort of mixed with the dawn call to prayer from mosques across the city. Dogs started howling into the night even before the first light. Evacuees started heading south to try to see if their homes are still there. I'm on the coastal highway. There are minivans packed with families, belongings tied on car roofs, people blasting music, beeping their horns, cheering. A young boy knocked on my car window and handed me a poster of Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader who was killed in an Israeli airstrike in late September. So the mood is definitely festive here, but a lot of these people may find that they don't have homes standing anymore.
Lauren Frayer
Have you been able to talk to people along the way? I mean, how are they processing this? I mean, at least it's got to feel like a relief of some kind.
Dia Hadid
Here's one woman I spoke with. Her name is Patricia Talib. She's 24. She had stopped on the shoulder of the highway to let one of her children pee on the side of the road. They're from a village in the south that saw fierce ground battles. And the Israeli military has warned people not to return to some of these areas because Israeli troops are still there. They're in retreat, but they are still in this country. And they asked Patricia if she's worried about finding Israeli soldiers in her house to begin with.
Lauren Frayer
People are not really intimidated by the entity. We know that this is the end days of the war, and we know that ultimately it's going to be okay. We personally, we stayed for the first week of the war, so we didn't really want to leave our village to begin with. It was only because we were in the way resistance that we actually ended up leaving our village.
Dia Hadid
You can hear her kids there in the background. When she says resistance, she means Hezbollah fighters.
Lauren Frayer
Now, I know it's new, but can you fill us in on the details of this agreement?
Dia Hadid
Yeah. So this is a 60 day truce, which would take us up to Donald Trump's inauguration, incidentally, during which Israel withdraws its ground troops from Lebanon, it halts airstrikes, and in turn, Hezbollah moves its fighters and weapons north of the Litany river. That's about 20 miles away from the Israeli border. The Lebanese army is deploying down into southern Lebanon alongside UN peacekeepers who are already here. And an international committee will be monitoring implementation of this. As for whether this is holding, it apparently seems to be so far There was one incident in which the Israeli military says it identified what it says were Hezbollah operatives returning to areas near the border. It opened fire on them. That doesn't appear to have anything wider.
Lauren Frayer
Now, many of the targets of Israeli strikes in Lebanon were either in the nation's south or in and around Beirut. What's the scale of recovery?
Dia Hadid
Yeah, I mean, parts of Lebanon, particularly in the south and Beirut's southern suburbs look like Gaza. They've been completely destroyed. This is orders of magnitude compared to the last war here in 2006. And it will take years, perhaps even decades, to rebuild. I'm in Sidon, an ancient port city on the Mediterranean and this is sort, sort of the boundary of southern Lebanon. So, people, the mood has been very jubilant here as people head south and celebrate this ceasefire. But I suspect the mood will really change going south from here.
Lauren Frayer
Now, the ceasefire aims to put an end to Hezbollah militant attacks on Israel, which have displaced tens of thousands of people in the nation's north. What's the situation now for them?
Dia Hadid
So Israel is still not calling on its residents to return to their abandoned homes in the north of that country. Officials there say there will be a one to two month period of rebuilding before they initiate that return. It's worth mentioning many mayors inside Israel, particularly along that border, opposed this ceasefire. One called it a shameful agreement. They have real security concerns. Not only the fear of a resumption of Hezbollah rocket attacks, but also a possible October 7th like attack.
Lauren Frayer
That's NPR's Lauren Frayer. Lauren, thanks.
Dia Hadid
You're welcome.
Rob Schmitz
Security forces dispersed protesters in the capital of Pakistan overnight.
Lauren Frayer
Yeah, that's right. They marched to Islamabad to demand the release of the jailed former Prime Minister Imran Khan. Hundreds of protesters have been arrest since Sunday.
Rob Schmitz
With Me now is NPR's Dia Hadid. She covers Pakistan from her base in Mumbai. Good morning, dia.
Michael Kugelman
Good morning, Rob.
Rob Schmitz
So bring us up to speed. Dio. What happened with these protests and where do things stand?
Michael Kugelman
Right, well, protesters had reached downtown Islamabad. They defied tear gas and climbed over shipping containers to get there. There was also violence. Six people were killed on Tuesday, including four security personnel. Journalists covering the march said protesters also attacked them, including an Associated Press cameraman who was taken to hospital. And once protesters had made it to the city centre, they announced a sit in until the former Prime Minister Imran Khan is released. But overnight, paramilitary forces pushed them out. Videos shared by Khan supporters showed smoke, flashing lights, people running, the sound of guns firing. I spoke to a young woman who was there. She requested anonymity she's worried about being detained if identified because there's been crackdowns on Khan supporters.
A Martinez
All you could see was tear gas and it was just a lot of chaos. I was between the crowd at that time. My dad and I saw a body fall in front of us. When the firing started, it was all pitch dark, but I could hear bullets being shot at people.
Rob Schmitz
Wow, that sounds terrifying.
Michael Kugelman
Yeah. Khan's media team say dozens of people were injured and another two people were killed. And following that crackdown, Khan's team called off the protests for now, and the government's interpreted that as a victory for them. The information minister even told local media that protesters ran like cowards. He said they'd even left their shoes behind.
Rob Schmitz
So it sounds like the government is taking a very tough line in all of this. What can we expect in the coming days?
Michael Kugelman
Well, the coming days may well reflect what we've seen in the past 18 months since Imran Khan was jailed. A cycle of increasingly violent encounters. I spoke to Michael Kugelman. He's the director of the South Asia Institute at the Wilson Centre, and he says this violence reflects a crisis of legitimacy. At the very top, you have a.
Brian Mann
Critical mass of the public that has.
Dia Hadid
Essentially lost confidence in public institutions, and that includes the army.
Michael Kugelman
It's important to note the army is Pakistan's most powerful institution. It was largely sacrosanct among Pakistanis, and that's changed now. Many Khan supporters see the army as having rigged elections this February to propel this current government to power. So for now, it's an intractable crisis. The army against Khan and his supporters, and now that they've deployed against civilians in the capital, which is quite unusual in Pakistan, it could happen again because nothing's actually been resolved.
Rob Schmitz
But for now, the protests have been dispersed, right?
Michael Kugelman
Yeah. The government says life's returning to normal. Cars are on the road where the crackdown happened. It's unclear what protesters will do next. Two people I spoke to said they were angry at their protest leaders because they appear to have fled as the crackdown began. That includes Khan's wife, Bushra Bibi. She only appears in a white gown and a face veil, presents herself as a spiritual guru. Now the government's playing on that anger. One minister told local media that these events were the fault of one woman.
Rob Schmitz
That's NPR's Dia Hadid. Dia. Thank you.
Michael Kugelman
You're welcome, Rob.
Lauren Frayer
President elect Donald Trump is threatening a 25% tariff on goods from Canada and Mexico, and an extra 10% tariff may be put on items from China.
Rob Schmitz
According to Trump, those nations are not doing enough to stop undocumented migrants or fentanyl from crossing into the US While arrests of migrants have been on the rise at the northern bor, there are a fraction of those at the southern border where apprehensions are at a four year low.
Lauren Frayer
NPR's Brian Mann covers a fentanyl crisis joins us now to take a look at Trump's promise. Now, Brian, it's a social media post right now, not policy quite yet. But what does Donald Trump say he hopes to accomplish with this threat?
Brian Mann
Yeah, you're right. A, it's not clear Trump's going to follow through on this. He doesn't take office for a couple months. A lot of negotiations are going to happen before then. What Trump said in social media posts Monday is that these countries aren't doing enough to solve what he describes as two of the biggest problems hitting the US Illegal immigration and fentanyl, which is still killing tens of thousands of people every year. According to Trump, Canada, China and Mexico could collectively easily solve these problems. He added that once imposed, these tariffs would remain in place until drugs, including fentanyl and illegal aliens. Those are his words, stop this invasion of our country.
Lauren Frayer
But could China and Mexico really just shut down fentanyl smuggling just like that?
Brian Mann
Yeah. Experts I talked to say no, it's just not possible. Jonathan Culkins, a drug policy expert at Carnegie Mellon University, says fentanyl is just really easy to make and smuggle. Unfortunately, it's quite difficult to control fentanyl.
Lauren Frayer
Because it's so easy for the illegal supply chains to produce and distribute it.
Brian Mann
Vonda Felb Brown is a drug policy expert at the Brookings Institution, and she agrees. What Trump is demanding here, it just isn't going to happen. That is an unachievable goal.
Dia Hadid
No country will accomplish that.
Brian Mann
What experts say is the best case scenario is that Trump's threats here prompt negotiations that maybe lead to better cooperation on migrants and fentanyl with more realistic goals.
Lauren Frayer
Okay, I'm sure they're all going to be talking at some point. So how are these countries responding so far?
Brian Mann
Well, you know, first it's important to say most fentanyl does enter the US From Mexico, typically passing through official border crossings. Mexico's President Claudia Schoenbaum responded by saying yesterday fentanyl is primarily a US problem, one that requires a healthcare and treatment response, she says, to reduce addiction. That's been Mexico's position for years. He also suggested US Tariffs linked to fentanyl could trigger a full blown trade war. One other concern I'm hearing from drug policy experts is that a trade fight could unravel what has been growing international cooperation targeting drug traffickers. Again, here's Van de Feld, Van Braun at Brookings.
Dia Hadid
Various Chinese officials have told me that the Counternarcotics Corporation would not be able to survive an imposition of substantial tariffs.
Brian Mann
So if this power move by Trump doesn't work, we could see China and Mexico backing away from intelligence sharing and other cooperation with US Law enforcement. That could mean less pressure on these gangs that are smuggling fentanyl.
Lauren Frayer
Now, Brian, you've been reporting that the fentanyl crisis has been easing in recent months with a lot fewer people dying. So what does Donald Trump say about that?
Brian Mann
Well, Trump hasn't actually acknowledged that progress. Writing on social media, he said, we're still seeing drugs coming across the border, and I'm quoting here at levels never seen before. In fact, there's been a huge pop positive shift over the last 12 months. Fatal overdoses, including fentanyl, are dropping fast, about 16,000 fewer deaths. Most experts I talk to credit better health care and treatment. And they worry that Trump's threat here of an international drug and trade war could be a distraction, pulling focus away from a public health response that appears to be helping.
Lauren Frayer
So let's broaden the scope then. If these countries cannot meet Donald Trump's big demands on fentanyl and migrants, I mean, how could a tariff war then play out for workers and consumers here.
Brian Mann
In the U.S. well, most economists agree tariffs basically work as a tax on goods. This kind of trade fight could boost prices for American consumers at a time when inflation is still a problem. More broadly, we're talking about what could be a messy trade conflict erupting simultaneously between the US and three countries that are all deeply intertwined with American companies and their supply chains. So if Trump does pull the trigger on these tariffs, the disruption could be enormous.
Lauren Frayer
That's NPR's addiction correspondent, Brian Mann. Brian, thanks.
Brian Mann
Thank you. A.
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Up First from NPR – November 27, 2024
NPR's “Up First” delivers the three biggest stories of the day with in-depth reporting and analysis. In this episode, hosted by A. Martinez, Rob Schmitz, and Lauren Frayer, the key topics include the newly established Israel-Lebanon ceasefire, the violent protests in Pakistan demanding the release of former Prime Minister Imran Khan, and President Elect Donald Trump's threats to impose tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China to combat fentanyl trafficking and unauthorized migration.
Ceasefire Implementation and Celebration
At 00:03, Rob Schmitz announces that a 60-day ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon has officially begun. A. Martinez provides context, noting that this marks the deadliest conflict between Israel and Hezbollah in decades. Lauren Frayer adds, “So what happens now for people displaced by war?” highlighting the immediate concerns following the ceasefire.
On-the-Ground Reporting from Lebanon
Lauren Frayer connects with NPR’s Dia Hadid in Sidon, southern Lebanon, at 02:35 to provide a vivid account of the ceasefire’s reception. Dia describes the celebratory atmosphere: “I was awoken by this celebratory gunfire erupting across the city, sort of mixed with the dawn call to prayer from mosques across the city” (02:44). Families are seen rejoicing, though the devastation remains palpable as Dia observes, “Parts of Lebanon, particularly in the south and Beirut's southern suburbs look like Gaza. They've been completely destroyed” (05:21).
Details of the Ceasefire Agreement
Dia explains the terms of the ceasefire at 04:27:
Despite the tense history, the ceasefire appears stable with minimal incidents reported so far, though underlying tensions remain, especially regarding displaced populations and reconstruction efforts.
Violent Clashes in Islamabad
At 00:26, Rob Schmitz reports on the dispersal of thousands of protesters in Pakistan’s capital, Islamabad, who marched to demand the release of jailed former Prime Minister Imran Khan. A. Martinez shares the chaotic scene: “All you could see was tear gas and it was just a lot of chaos” (00:26).
Detailed Coverage and Eyewitness Accounts
Dia Hadid and Michael Kugelman provide in-depth analysis from Mumbai:
Expert Analysis on Political Crisis
Michael Kugelman, director of the South Asia Institute at the Wilson Centre, explains the root of the unrest: “This violence reflects a crisis of legitimacy...many Khan supporters see the army as having rigged elections this February” (08:44). The ongoing conflict between Khan’s faction and the military highlights a fragile political landscape with no immediate resolution in sight.
Tariff Threats Explained
At 10:31, Lauren Frayer introduces President Elect Donald Trump's recent announcement to impose a 25% tariff on goods from Canada and Mexico, and an additional 10% on items from China. Trump's stated goal is to curb the flow of fentanyl and unauthorized migrants into the United States.
Expert Opinions on Feasibility and Impact
Brian Mann, NPR’s addiction correspondent, offers critical insights:
Responses from Affected Countries
Current State of the Fentanyl Crisis
Despite Trump's assertions, data shows a decline in fentanyl-related deaths, with “about 16,000 fewer deaths” reported (11:43). Experts attribute this improvement to better healthcare and treatment methods, raising concerns that Trump's proposed tariffs could undermine effective public health initiatives.
This episode of Up First provides comprehensive coverage of significant international and national issues shaping the current geopolitical and social landscape. From the fragile peace between Israel and Lebanon and the tumultuous political climate in Pakistan, to the contentious economic policies proposed by President Elect Trump, NPR delivers nuanced insights and expert analysis to inform listeners about the complexities of these critical events.
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