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Leila Fadel
Nicolas Maduro pleaded not guilty in a New York courtroom declaring he was kidnapped.
Steve Inskeep
Protesters gathered outside.
Protester / Commentator
This is a ploy to capture oil and foreign resources of a country.
Steve Inskeep
What is Maduro's defense against drug charges?
Leila Fadel
I'm Leila Fadel with Steve Inskeep. And this is up first from NPR News. The White House gave lawmakers a classified briefing on the former Venezuelan president's capture. Senator Chuck Schumer told reporters one thing he did not hear.
Senator Chuck Schumer
I did not receive any assurances that we would not try to do the same thing in other countries.
Leila Fadel
Did the president scorn Congress by keeping it in the dark? House Speaker Mike Johnson argues Trump did not.
Steve Inskeep
Also, why did the government scale back routine vaccine recommendations for children. Stay with us. We've got the news. You need to start your day.
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Steve Inskeep
We have heard some of the US case against ousted Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro. Now he has taken the first step in his defense.
Leila Fadel
Maduro and his wife pleaded not guilty to Federal criminal charges. U.S. military Special Forces seized the both of them from inside Venezuela last week. And Monday was their first appearance in a New York court.
Steve Inskeep
NPR's Jasmine Garner was in the courtroom and joins us now. Jasmine, good morning.
Barbara Sprunt
Good morning.
Steve Inskeep
What was it like?
Jasmine Garner
It was really unusual from the moment Maduro appeared in court. Before he sat down, he made eye contact with reporters and he wished us a happy New Year in English. I don't think anyone saw that coming. His wife walked in behind him. She seemed to have a swollen eye and her forehead was bandaged. Later, her lawyer said she'd been hurt in the military operation during their capture. They requested x rays for her ribs. They said they were either bruised or broken. The proceedings, the whole thing lasted about 30 minutes. And early on, there was a heckler in the courtroom, which led to a reminder for us to keep quiet. But as Maduro was escorted back out, this man got up and yelled at him, saying he would pay for what he's done to Venezuelans. Maduro responded that he's a man of God and added that that he's a prisoner of war kidnapped by the American military.
Steve Inskeep
Okay, so a heckler who is an anti Maduro heckler. I was just seeing video images of protests outside the courthouse as well.
Jasmine Garner
Yeah, there was quite a lot. You know, there were these really heated exchanges happening outside. I think it really speaks to the complicated feeling around all this. There were two groups of protesters. There were those who are against American intervention in Venezuela, and there were Venezuelans celebrating Maduro's capture. I spoke to a young man named Izzy McCabe.
Protester / Commentator
This is a ploy to capture oil and foreign resources of a country. And this is to serve the same companies that come back and that bribe our politicians, that, you know, make us poor, that steal our resources here, that are polluting our environment here.
Jasmine Garner
And, you know, Steve, Trump has said he wants to take control of Venezuela's oil resources and have American companies rebuild that infrastructure. So I asked one of the Venezuelan protesters who was there celebrating Maduro's detention what she makes of those accusations that this is just about the US Exploiting Venezuela's oil reserves. Here's a woman named Maria Sul, Venezuela. What she's saying is you think Russia and China are in Venezuela for fun. How many years have they been stealing Venezuelan oil and gold? How many years have they been taking advantage of us? How many years have Cuba been living off of us?
Steve Inskeep
Interesting questions, but what did you learn in that half hour about the case against Maduro and also his defense?
Jasmine Garner
Maduro's attorney is a well known lawyer, Barry Pollack, who defended Julian Assange against the US Government as well. And he reminded the judge yesterday that his client is the head of a sovereign state and that there's going to be a lot of questions about the legality of how he was taken. And meanwhile, the Trump administration's indictment is pages long. So what I can say is that this case is likely going to go on for a while. The next hearing is on March 17. Meanwhile, the Maduros are going to be held in jail right here in New York City.
Steve Inskeep
NPR's Jasmine Garz, thanks so much.
Jasmine Garner
Thank you.
Steve Inskeep
Now, the seizure of Venezuela's president raises a question for the American president whether he should have consulted Congress.
Leila Fadel
Yeah. President Trump did not inform Congress before an operation that the White House calls a law enforcement operation. Democrats saw it as an act of war, and Republicans largely have obeyed the president.
Steve Inskeep
Lawmakers from both parties received a briefing after the operation. And NPR congressional correspondent Barbara Sprott was waiting outside. Barbara, good morning.
Barbara Sprunt
Good morning, Steve.
Steve Inskeep
Okay, so the Secretary of State goes in, Marco Rubio, Secretary of Defense, Attorney General, CIA director. They brief top lawmakers. And then what did you hear on the way out?
Barbara Sprunt
You know, it really depends on who it was. The partisan divide was on full display. On the one hand, you had Republicans calling it a good meeting, a thorough briefing. They said that the military operation was appropriate from the administration. And then Democrats left the briefing saying that they had more questions than answers. Here's Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. He called the administration's plan for running Venezuela vague and unsatisfying.
Senator Chuck Schumer
I did not receive any assurances that we would not try to do the same thing in other countries. When the United States engages in this kind of regime change and so called nation building, it always ends up hurting the United States. I left the briefing feeling that it would again.
Barbara Sprunt
You know, there are some meetings where members leave and talk to reporters and you learn a ton of new information. This was not that a lot of people left saying that they're just not sharing these details from the briefing at this point. But that doesn't mean that they're shying away from talking about their concerns. And a really big point of contention is that Congress wasn't notified in advance of the operation.
Steve Inskeep
Well, let's talk that through and we should be clear. President after president after president has taken more and more power from Congress. And Congress has largely rolled over this. Congress has very notably rolled over and said that it has no role to play again and again and again. But how are lawmakers talking about it in this situation?
Barbara Sprunt
Exactly that. I mean, Democrats are concerned about the White House circumventing Congress. They say this is just the latest example of that. In a long list of examples, here's Gregory Meeks, the highest ranking Democrat on the Foreign Affairs Committee.
Steve Inskeep
It seems at every turn, Donald Trump is trying to figure out how he avoids Congress, and unfortunately, Congress allows him to do it.
Barbara Sprunt
House Speaker Mike Johnson actually addressed this directly. He said that this operation was not an act of war, it was a legal operation, and that the President has the authority to deploy military forces to address threats to the United States. And as for this claim that Congress is weak, he says, nope, not the case.
Protester / Commentator
Look I can tell you as speaker of the House, as a person who's in charge of defending Article 1 powers, I'm just going to insist to you that those have not been traversed in any way by what happened here. The president used his authority under the law.
Steve Inskeep
Lawmakers today are going to meet with the president and it's Republicans meeting him, right?
Barbara Sprunt
That's right. And in the past, when the president has joined these types of conference meetings with House Republicans, it becomes almost like a rally. And it's not hard to envision that happening today given that they're gearing up as a party for midterm elections. So I expect that Venezuela will be part of the conversation, but not the only topic. There will be a separate all member briefing on Venezuela tomorrow, and that's where I expect we'll learn more about next steps in the region.
Steve Inskeep
NPR's Barbara's front, thanks so much.
Barbara Sprunt
Thank you.
Steve Inskeep
US Health officials announced a major overhaul to vaccine recommendations for children.
Leila Fadel
Yeah, it reduces the number of vaccines that are routinely recommended. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention made the changes in response to a directive from President Trump.
Steve Inskeep
NPR's Ping Huang is covering this story. Good morning.
Ping Huang
Good morning.
Steve Inskeep
Okay, just talk us through. What are the changes?
Ping Huang
So all US children are now recommended to get vaccines against 11 diseases, which is six fewer than there were yesterday morning. What remains on the everyone should get this list includes vaccines against measles, polio, chickenpox, hpv. But other shots that used to be recommended for all kids, like those for rotavirus, meningitis, hepatitis A and B and flu, are now recommended only for children at high risk or only after talking with a healthcare provider. Dr. Sean O' Leary with the American Academy of Pediatrics says this will lead to fewer children getting vaccinated against diseases, and some of these effects will be seen years down the line. But seasonal flu is spreading.
Protester / Commentator
Now, the flu vaccine this year actually is working very well to protect children. So to back off on a flu recommendation in the midst of, you know, a pretty severe flu year seems to me to be pretty tone deaf.
Ping Huang
And these changes were done in an unusual way.
Steve Inskeep
Unusual?
Ping Huang
How so? There were no new scientific developments behind it. There was no public comment, period. Vaccine makers were not involved. And it sidestepped the CDC's vaccine advisory committee.
Steve Inskeep
Just trying to apply my comments common sense here. Ping, you mentioned flu. I mean, somebody in my family had the flu the other day. Meningitis, another one that there's no longer a recommendation for everyone to get vaccinated sounds like a pretty serious disease. So what is this based on?
Ping Huang
Yeah, they are, Steve. And early in December, President Trump issued a memo directing health officials to align the US Vaccine schedule with those in what he called peer developed countries like Germany, Japan, Australia. And that kicked off a review led by two senior officials, Tracy Beth Hogue of the FDA and Martin Koldorff. Both of them were hired by Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. And both were closely involved with his vaccine changes last year. And they put out this report yesterday, which focused a lot on the vaccine schedule in Denmark, which requires fewer vaccines than any of the other countries reviewed. Dr. Jesse Goodman, a former FDA official now at Georgetown University, says that is not the best comparison.
Steve Inskeep
Most well off Western countries are recommending these vaccines for their citizens. And it really is Denmark that's an outlier.
Ping Huang
Denmark has a smaller population than New York City. It's quite homogenous, and they have universal healthcare. And to Goodman's point, some of the shots the US Just took off the universally recommended list, like rotavirus meningitis and hepatitis B are recommended for all kids in most of the other countries that were reviewed.
Steve Inskeep
I'm just interested by the concept that this administration would say we should do something because a European country of all countries does this. But what does this mean for parents? How do they make sense of this?
Ping Huang
So it's very confusing. I mean, health officials say all the vaccines are still available for free for any parent that wants them. That's because all the vaccines are still technically on the schedule. They've just shifted to some different categories like shared clinical decision making, which means that parents should get a medical consult before deciding to get them. But parents who want vaccines may need to advocate for them. And some clinicians may be thinking there's more paperwork involved. And a lot of doctors offices historically don't stock vaccines that require these extra consultations.
Steve Inskeep
And Beerus Ping Huang, thanks so much.
Ping Huang
You're welcome.
Steve Inskeep
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Episode: Maduro Pleads Not Guilty, Congress On Venezuela, Vaccine Schedule Overhaul
Hosts: Leila Fadel, Steve Inskeep
Key Topics: Maduro’s trial and U.S. intervention in Venezuela, Congressional response, Overhaul of children’s vaccine recommendations
This episode of NPR's Up First dives into three major ongoing stories:
[02:03–05:37]
“Before he sat down, he made eye contact with reporters and wished us a happy New Year in English. I don't think anyone saw that coming.” ([02:31])
"I'm a man of God... a prisoner of war kidnapped by the American military." ([03:22])
“This is a ploy to capture oil and foreign resources of a country… make us poor, steal our resources.” ([03:57])
“You think Russia and China are in Venezuela for fun? How many years have they been stealing Venezuelan oil and gold?... How many years has Cuba been living off of us?" ([04:28])
[05:38–09:15]
“I did not receive any assurances that we would not try to do the same thing in other countries. When the United States engages in this kind of regime change and so-called nation building, it always ends up hurting the United States. I left the briefing feeling that it would again.” ([06:43])
“It seems at every turn, Donald Trump is trying to figure out how he avoids Congress, and unfortunately, Congress allows him to do it.” ([07:58])
“The president used his authority under the law… I’m just going to insist to you that those [Article 1 powers] have not been traversed in any way by what happened here.” ([08:27])
[09:24–12:58]
“The flu vaccine this year actually is working very well to protect children. So to back off on a flu recommendation in the midst of a pretty severe flu year seems to me to be pretty tone deaf.” ([10:27])
“Most well-off Western countries are recommending these vaccines for their citizens. And it really is Denmark that's an outlier.” ([11:50])
“Some clinicians may be thinking there's more paperwork involved. And a lot of doctors’ offices historically don't stock vaccines that require these extra consultations.” ([12:44])
The hosts and reporters conveyed urgency and attention to the gravity of each segment, alternately serious (on legal, political, and health matters) and humanizing (describing courtroom and protest scenes, parental confusion around vaccines).
This summary provides a comprehensive guide to the episode’s news content, highlighting pivotal moments, direct quotations, and timestamped reference points for deeper listening or further research.