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The governor of texas says his state's national guard troops are on the move at president trump's direction democratic states are.
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Challenging the president's power to deploy the.
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Military at home i'm steve inskeep with michelle martin and this is up first from npr news today marks two years since hamas fighters attacked israel the resulting war has transformed the middle east with thousands dead and effects across the region as israel and hamas negotiate over a us plan to end the war how much hope is there for peace and.
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The supreme court takes up a challenge to state bans on conversion therapy setting up a fight over free speech medical care and lgbtq rights stay with us we've got news you need to start your day.
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Greg abbott gave an update on president trump's plan to use the texas national guard last night governor abbott tweeted a picture of troops boarding a military plane deploying now he wrote although he did not give any details about where they.
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Were going president trump has called on the texas guard to move into cities led by democrats including portland oregon and chicago the president asserts those cities are suffering from crime and that troops are needed to support his immigration crackdown elected officials in those cities see a political provocation on the streets npr's jacqueline diaz.
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Has been following this and she's with us now good morning jacqueline good morning so give us the latest in the legal battle over these troops that are supposedly heading to chicago yeah so illinois.
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And chicago filed a lawsuit yesterday morning to try to stop the trump administration from federalizing hundreds of national guard troops saying it's unnecessary it's illegal but but a federal judge declined to block the deployment of troops from inside the state along with a force from texas at least for now this all came a day after another federal judge temporarily blocked the trump administration from deploying any national guard troops into portland oregon and around that same time that the federal judge out of chicago weighed in president trump was asked by a reporter under what circumstances he would use the insurrection act and that's the law that gives presidents the authority to deploy the military domestically here's what he said i'd do it.
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If it was necessary so far it hasn't been necessary but we have an insurrection act for a reason if i had to enact it i didn't i do that if people were being killed and courts were holding us up or governors or mayors were holding us up.
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Sure i'd do that so jacqueline give us a little bit of a kind of a history lesson here what kind of power does the president have to send troops into american cities basically the.
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Insurrection act gives the president authority to use federal troops to calm civil unrest in a crisis to take part in law enforcement like activities which can include searches and arrests but trump has not used the insurrection act under normal circumstances the national guard is under state command that is unless the president calls them into federal service here in the us the national guard has been used as a force to calm civil disturbances at the request of local officials retired major general william enyart led the illinois national guard from two thousand seven to twenty.
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Twelve it's an appropriate use of the guard to use them for civil disturbances but these aren't civil disturbances we're not.
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Talking about civil disturbances and so he's.
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Saying what trump is doing now is not an appropriate use of that power.
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Do we have any clarity as to why the president hasn't invoked the insurrection.
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Act like we heard earlier trump says if he wanted to essentially he would but the insurrection act has not been invoked since the rodney king riots in los angeles more than thirty years ago i asked stephen vladek a law professor at georgetown about what he makes of.
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That for better or for worse i think the insurrection act has been a.
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Third rail politically for much of its.
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History and so instead of invoking the insurrection act the white house is actually instead using an obscure provision of federal law to claim authority to bring in those national guard troops it's section one two four zero six of title ten so this law goes back to nineteen oh three and it allows the president to call up the national guard if there's a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the or if there's a danger of a foreign invasion as i.
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Think you've been telling us using that law as the federal government's legal basis for sending in troops has gotten mixed.
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Results so far yeah that's right in portland the judge wasn't convinced by the trump administration's claim that authorities there are unable to calm anti ice protests and that the federal government has to step in the administration is now appealing that decision and officials in chicago tried to use the same legal argument and like we said the judge in that case decided not to block the national guard.
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Deployment that was npr's jacqueline diaz jacqueline.
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Thank you thank you.
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Today marks two full years since the hamas led attack on israel of october seventh twenty twenty.
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Three two years across the country last weekend people attended events to remember more than twelve hundred people killed in those attacks and in gaza the anniversary marks the start of a third year of the deadliest and most destructive war the enclave has ever been subjected to npr's.
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Emily feng is in tel aviv and she's with us this morning to talk about what this date means emily hello.
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Thanks for joining us good morning michelle.
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How are israelis remembering october seventh well.
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They'Re holding these ceremonies and they tell me they have not been able to move on they still have forty eight hostages that remain in gaza about twenty of these people are still believed to be alive and yesterday i went to one of these events in the kibbutz of near oz this is one of the communities that was hardest impacted on october seventh because about one fourth of its members were killed or kidnapped and nine of their members remain hostages so the kibbutz people there are telling me they're grieving and they're still angry that the israeli military they felt left them undefended on october seventh rotom cooper is one of those who has remained angry his father helped found the kibbutz his father was also among those kidnapped by hamas and who died later in captivity and rotom says his community feels betrayed.
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Twice over obviously the people from that community feel that the government kind of deserted them not just once but twice.
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Deserted in that he feels they've been ignored by their own government who they feel has not done all it can to get the hostages back and so two years on this war has left israel very divided and what about the.
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People of gaza the war there entering its third year so this is what.
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The night and into the dawn of october seventh two years later sounded like for people in gaza npr's reporter in gaza anas baba recorded that and also several other big airstrikes and shelling and bombs throughout the night the war that israel has unleashed in gaza nearly immediately after october seventh has resulted in just staggering levels of destruction destruction and death and now famine gaza's ministry of health this week said more than sixty seven thousand people have been killed as a result of that war thirty percent of those are children and the latest united nations estimate is about seventy eight percent of structures in gaza are destroyed or damaged now anas has been talking to people in gaza city for the last few days under intense bombardment and one of them is this man twenty two year old ahmed abu sayf who says for him daily life over the last two years went from once being a university student and going to the gym to suddenly finding shelter having to find water being displaced all the time and worrying about the lives of his family and saif says the world has let this happen by being silent and cowardly in his words and he now wants the us to stop this war so.
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Negotiators began discussing this latest peace proposal in egypt this week what can you tell us about the likelihood of some.
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Kind of ceasefire right so the second anniversary of october seventh is chased by some hope that is new negotiators are now hashing out details of how to return all remaining hostages in exchange for about two thousand palestinian prisoners and detainees but these talks could take days longer still however with israel and hamas under pressure from middle eastern countries and from the us these egypt talks are the biggest diplomatic breakthrough yet in this terrible.
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Conflict that's npr's emily feng in tel aviv emily thank you thanks michelle.
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Today the supreme court hears a case on whether the government can regulate what's known as conversion therapy conservative christians want to.
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Keep offering the practice and say banning it violates therapist free speech major medical groups say it's substandard care npr legal.
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Affairs correspondent nina totenberg is covering it nina good morning good morning what's the.
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Case all about it's about how minors are treated when consulting a licensed therapist about their sexuality conversion therapy it's generally defined as therapy used to cure a person's attraction to the same sex in other words to make a gay person straight and to cure a person's desire to change their gender identity by making them comfortable with their gender at birth every major medical association from the american medical association to the american psychological association has repudiated conversion therapy finding that it doesn't work and instead leads to deep depression and suicidal thoughts in minors as a result of these findings half the states have banned the practice for those.
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Under eighteen oh i guess that's the center of this case then who is challenging that sort of state ban the.
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Alliance defending freedom a conservative christian legal group is challenging the ban on conversion therapy contending that it violates the free speech rights of the therapists in talk therap the plaintiff in the case is kaylee chiles a licensed therapist in colorado.
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I want to be able to operate genuinely and create therapeutic relationships that are not hindered by the values and position of our state and that's what my clients want as well and currently i'm.
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Having to turn them away representing chiles lawyer james campbell will tell the supreme court today that what chiles does is purely talk therapy and thus it's protected by the first amendment guarantee to free speech and cannot be regul by the.
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State the state can determine who is qualified to be a licensed counselor it can determine that they have the right education that they have sufficient experience but what the states can't do is come in and say you can have a conversation about a topic but not if you're going to talk about it from this perspective it's just blatant viewpoint discrimination.
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Okay so those are the plaintiffs what does the state say in response colorado.
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Attorney general philip weiser says that the state law is in fact narrow it applies only to treatment for minors and the law has a carve out for religious organizations to council minors or anyone else for that matter without being subject to state licensing laws but weiser also notes that states are entitled to require licenses for therapists and other medical professionals to abide by the established standard of.
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Medical care what cauda law doesn't allow is a discredited and harmful practice which is now condemned by all the major medical associations if you take away the ability of states to protect patients from substandard care then you're opening the door to all sorts of discredited treatments i.
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Guess when advocates of conversion therapy hear that their treatments are discredited they just don't believe the medical associations they note.
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That the american psychiatric association actually listed homosexuality as a mental disorder until nineteen seventy three attorney general weiser says that medical science evolves over time and there were times when we didn't know that smoking cigarettes for instance that they cause cancer but now we do know that and it's wrong he says for a doctor to tell people to smoke cigarettes three packs a day and tell them don't worry about the health effects he says that would be substandard care just like conversion practices are substandard care nina.
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Thanks so much thank you steve that's npr's nina totenberg.
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And that's up first for tuesday october seventh i'm michelle martin.
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Up First (NPR) – Episode Summary: "National Guard Powers, Marking October 7th, SCOTUS: Conversion Therapy"
Date: October 7, 2025
Hosts: Steve Inskeep, Michel Martin
This episode addresses three major national and international stories:
[02:02–06:02]
Governor Abbott’s Announcement
Legal Battles Over Deployment
"I’d do it if it was necessary. So far, it hasn’t been necessary, but we have an Insurrection Act for a reason. If I had to enact it—if people were being killed and courts were holding us up or governors or mayors were holding us up—sure I’d do that."
— Donald Trump, [03:26]
Historical Context and Legal Analysis
"It’s an appropriate use of the guard to use them for civil disturbances, but these aren’t civil disturbances… So [what] Trump is doing now is not an appropriate use of that power."
— Wm. Enyart, [04:24]
Mixed Legal Outcomes
[06:12–09:46]
In Israel: Raw Grief and Anger
"Obviously the people from that community feel that the government kind of deserted them not just once but twice."
— Rotom Cooper, resident of Nir Oz, [07:31]
In Gaza: Humanitarian Catastrophe
"[He] says the world has let this happen by being silent and cowardly in his words, and he now wants the US to stop this war."
— Emily Feng summarizing Ahmed Abu Sayf, [08:46]
Peace Prospects
"These Egypt talks are the biggest diplomatic breakthrough yet in this terrible conflict."
— Emily Feng, [09:44]
[09:59–13:47]
Background:
The Legal Challenge
"I want to be able to operate genuinely and create therapeutic relationships that are not hindered by the values and position of our state, and that's what my clients want as well."
— Kaylee Chiles, [11:24]
"What the states can’t do is come in and say, you can have a conversation about a topic but not if you’re going to talk about it from this perspective. It's just blatant viewpoint discrimination."
— James Campbell, attorney, [11:52]
States’ Arguments
"What Colorado law doesn't allow is a discredited and harmful practice which is now condemned by all the major medical associations. If you take away the ability of states to protect patients from substandard care, then you're opening the door to all sorts of discredited treatments."
— AG Philip Weiser, [12:47]
President Trump on Insurrection Act:
"If I had to enact it—I didn’t—I’d do that if people were being killed and courts were holding us up or governors or mayors were holding us up. Sure I’d do that." [03:26]
Israeli Grief and Disillusionment:
"[The government] kind of deserted them not just once but twice." — Rotom Cooper, Nir Oz resident [07:31]
Gaza Viewpoint on Prolonged War:
"[He] says the world has let this happen by being silent and cowardly..." — Ahmed Abu Sayf, via Emily Feng [08:46]
On Free Speech and Therapy:
"You can have a conversation about a topic but not if you're going to talk about it from this perspective. It's just blatant viewpoint discrimination." — James Campbell, attorney [11:52]
State’s Defense of Bans:
"What Colorado law doesn't allow is a discredited and harmful practice..." — AG Philip Weiser [12:47]
Tone:
Matter-of-fact, empathetic, and analytical – balancing reporting with poignant on-the-ground voices.
For Listeners:
This episode distills three critical stories shaping national and global debate: the role of presidential power in domestic military deployment, the ongoing trauma and politics two years after the October 7th attacks in Israel and Gaza, and the Supreme Court’s consideration of states’ authority to regulate harmful talk therapies. Essential listening for anyone seeking concise, nuanced reporting to start their day.