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Steven Skiep
On day 100 of his second term. President Trump celebrated changes to America in his second term.
Leila Fadel
Those changes include a trade war, punishing perceived political enemies and invoking wartime authorities.
Steven Skiep
I'm Steven Skiepe with Leila Fadel. And this is up first from NPR News. Steve Bannon, a sometime advisor to the president, talks of a busy summer.
Steve Bannon
I think the convergence particularly of spending cuts and the simultaneously constitutional crisis that we're hurtling to is going to make this summer a summer like no other.
Steven Skiep
How is a populist podcaster defending the president's first hundred days? And what does he see in the next hundred?
Leila Fadel
And Congressional Republicans return from recess with a goal of passing the president's so called big beautiful bill in a month. Stay with us. We'll give you the news you need to start your day.
Tamara Keith
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Victory lap in Michigan last night.
Steve Bannon
In 100 days, we have delivered the most profound change in Washington in nearly 100 years. I read an editorial today that this is the most consequential presidency in history. How about that?
Steven Skiep
It's a little early for that. Superlative. But Trump's critics and fans alike agree that these hundred days were consequential Trump has pushed the limits of presidential power. He invoked wartime authorities to crack down on immigration. He punished his political enemies and launched a trade war that shook consumer confidence and also shook US Relationships with the world.
Leila Fadel
Joining me now to talk about this milestone is NPR senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith. Hi, Tammy.
Tamara Keith
Good morning.
Leila Fadel
Good morning. So that was a long but incomplete list of what President Trump has done since January. So suffice to say, a lot has happened. How did the president take stock of things at his rally last night?
Tamara Keith
Well, he covered all of that and more in a 90 minute speech that was actually rather joyful by Trump's standards. You know, at times during the campaign, his speeches got pretty grim. But this was his first rally since Inauguration Day, his first time fully feeling the embrace of the MAGA faithful. And he comes, comes alive with a crowd, especially when he can boast about owning the libs and taking back the country from a, quote, sick political class.
Steve Bannon
We are stopping their gravy train, ending their power trip and telling thousands of corrupt, incompetent and unnecessary deep state bureaucrats, you're fired. Get the hell out of here. You're fired. Get out of here.
Tamara Keith
He also talked about paper straws and low flow showerheads along with border security working to bring down prices. And there were also, as always, plenty of exaggerations and outright falsehoods throughout.
Leila Fadel
I want to ask you about the difference and the similarities with Trump's first term, which you also covered. What are you seeing as the key differences so far?
Tamara Keith
He has a lot more experience as a longtime Trump ally told me. He has been through the knife fights and knows how to use the levers of power. And he's having having an easier time of it so far as well. During Trump 1.0, he faced pushback from within his own administration. The second Trump administration is all loyalists. Gone are the establishment Republicans who saw themselves as guardrails working behind the scenes to temper his plans. And Congress is more compliant as well. Most of the Republicans who criticized him last time are no longer in office. A big test of that is coming soon, though. And Trump last night seemed to be transitioning to a campaign style push for what he calls his one big beautiful bill, a massive tax and spending cut measure that Trump is urging Republicans to pass quickly. He has done a lot through executive action in these first 100 days, but he's going to need Congress for this.
Leila Fadel
And what about the similarities?
Tamara Keith
Well, last night, Trump complained repeatedly about polls he said couldn't possibly be valid. That's the raft of public polls out in recent days, indicating Trump has the lowest approval rating at the 100 days mark of any President in 80 years. A lot of Americans told pollsters they think Trump is going too far. And like in his first term, significant parts of Trump's agenda are being held up in the courts, which he made clear he isn't happy about. The courts and the polls are the two biggest hints of gravity that Trump is experiencing right now.
Leila Fadel
NPR's Tamara Key. Thanks for joining us, Tammy.
Tamara Keith
You're welcome.
Leila Fadel
The president's sometime advisor, Steve Bannon, expects a busy summer.
Steven Skiep
Bannon has a front row seat for whatever happens. He broadcasts a daily webcast from a Washington, D.C. townhouse that we visited this week.
Steve Bannon
There's going to be a confrontation. I think the convergence, particularly of spending cuts and the simultaneously constitutional crisis that we're hurtling to is going to make this summer a summer like no other.
Steven Skiep
Now, Steve Bannon promoted Trump's cause back in 2016 and worked in the White House for a time. Now he is pushing the administration to go even further. Political observers still follow Bannon as one of several indicators for where a part of Trump's coalition may be going. And that is one reason we've been over to see him.
Leila Fadel
So, Steve, what faction does Steve Bannon represent?
Steven Skiep
Well, he says he represents the working class, the average person. We should be clear. Bannon is a Harvard mba, made lots of money on Wall street and Hollywood. And in the first Trump admin, he had the Elon Musk role, the upscale advisor. This time around, he's had his differences with Musk. He talks about oligarchs. He attacks Wall street and the economic system. And he spends a lot of time on his podcast and webcast insisting the working class is being screwed. He talks about income inequality, which is a widely accepted idea. People on the left can nod their heads when he talks about that. The debate, of course, is about his solutions, which involve attacking the bureaucracy and expelling immigrants without legal status. And even some people with.
Leila Fadel
And what's he saying as Trump finishes 100 days?
Steven Skiep
Tamara just said that polls indicate Americans think Trump has gone too far. Bannon wants more, more intense attacks on universities, for example. He wants to go after public universities, not just the elite private ones. Trump has canceled some student visas. Bannon was on his program Monday talking about sending home hundreds of thousands of Chinese students, all of them, immediately, if.
Leila Fadel
It were up to him, if Bannon is conservative, what's he say about Trump's treatment of the Constitution?
Steven Skiep
Oh, we had a very long discussion about this. The Supreme Court, of course, unanimously said that people who are being thrown out of the country deserve some kind of due process. This includes Trump appointees. A Trump appointed judge said due process hadn't even been followed in one case for a two year old US Citizen recently. But Bannon is using this phrase. It's very common on the right judicial insurrection, saying judges are improperly standing in the way of the president. We also in this conversation talked about the president's claim of sweeping powers to raise tariffs. And here's how some of that discussion went. Does it concern you at all that a president could claim the power to completely transform the economy all by himself just on his say so?
Steve Bannon
Well, it's not just on his say so. It is he did execute emergency powers to do this, given the emergency that's there both on fentanyl and on the national security side.
Steven Skiep
But the emergency is he says there's an emergency. That's all there is.
Steve Bannon
No, he gave backup document to him, the fentanyl issue and also Canada and the deficits alone. The trade deficit's $25 trillion brother. That's not an emergency.
Steven Skiep
The US does have an annual trade deficit with other nations, which the White house estimates at $1.2 trillion last year.
Leila Fadel
Okay, so now Bannon has been provocative, controversial for years. He supported Trump's effort to overturn the election. He lost in 2020. He's favored attacking the government bureaucracy urge, giving it, quote, blunt force trauma. But here's a question. What is the future that he wants to see?
Steven Skiep
We got that in this part of the interview.
Steve Bannon
We got to start making things again. The high value added part of manufacturing has to come back something that a man or woman can have a job and have a family and have their spouse stay home if they so want and raise their kids. Once we're back to that, the country's going to be vibrant and robust again.
Steven Skiep
He's looking at an older idea of the economy which is connected to a more traditional idea of the family. Of course, we're far from that now. And as we heard, Bannon is forecasting a summer of crisis.
Leila Fadel
Fascinating. So the full interview video interview is at the NPR app and elsewhere. Republicans in Congress returned to Washington this week after a two week recess, ready.
Steven Skiep
To make good on President Trump's promise to pass a big bill full of his top policy priorities. In the House, they say the goal is to write these plans covering everything from taxes and immigration to spending cuts and pass it by Memorial Day, which is less than a month from now.
Leila Fadel
NPR's Elena Moore is following this. And she joins me now in studio. Hi, Elena.
Elena Moore
Good morning.
Leila Fadel
Good morning. So Republicans have been talking about their plans to pass President Trump's agenda for some time now. Just remind us of where they are in this process.
Elena Moore
Yeah. Well, a few weeks ago, the House and the Senate approved a budget framework for this big spending bill. Now House Republicans say they're focused on drafting and agreeing to all the pieces of the legislation based on that framework. Here's how Republican Congressman and Majority Leader Steve Scalise put it to reporters on Tuesday.
Steven Skiep
All of our committees have been meeting both individually. We've been meeting with the president for about a year to get to this moment and start delivering on those things that we all ran on.
Elena Moore
Yeah. And House committees are planning to release and work through their proposals for the spending bill over the next few weeks. After that, the House Budget Committee will work to put it all together so the whole House can vote. And we should say, Layla, this is entirely a partisan process and Democrats who don't have the power to stop this are unanimously opposed.
Leila Fadel
Okay, Elena, Memorial Day is about a month away. Does it seem like they will actually be able to meet this goal?
Elena Moore
Well, Republicans want to pass a lot of policy, but some of it is divisive, even among Republicans. And that's just a difficult task given their razor thin majority. It means Republicans need virtually full party support to get this bill over the finish line. So they need to keep different factions of their conference happy. Plus, there's already one big problem. House committees have been directed to propose at least 1, 1.5 trillion in cuts. In the Senate, they're supposed to slash just 4 billion in cuts, but they've promised to cut more.
Leila Fadel
Okay, so they're working with different numbers, but what about policy? What are the biggest divisions right now?
Elena Moore
Well, one is over the future of Medicaid, the government insurance program available for low income Americans and folks with disabilities. It falls under the House Energy and Commerce Committee's control. And the committee is looking to propose 880 billion in cuts. And Democrats point to a recent analysis from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office to conclude that cuts to Medicaid would have to happen in order to get to that number. Still, you know, some Republicans have come out strongly against this, both in the House and in the Senate. You know, it's something Missouri Senator Josh Hawley told me he's not going to compromise on, given just how many people in his state rely on both Medicaid and the related Children's Health Insurance program.
Tamara Keith
Some people I think would like to cut Medicaid. That's a goal. They view that as a feature, not a bug.
Steven Skiep
But I view it as a bug.
Tamara Keith
I mean, I'm not going to vote.
Steven Skiep
For Medicaid cuts, not with 21% of my state, including a lot of kids who are getting Medicaid or chip.
Leila Fadel
What else are they considering?
Elena Moore
Well, some committees have started to spell out what they would already cut. Just this week, the House Committee on Education and the Workforce released their spending proposal, which includes scrapping some current student loan repayment plans and capping how much Americans can bor from the government. So we'll be watching how lawmakers negotiate these cuts over the next few weeks.
Leila Fadel
That's NPR's Elena Moore. Thank you, Elena.
Elena Moore
Thanks.
Leila Fadel
And that's up first for Wednesday, April 30th. I'm Layla Faulded.
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Steven Skiep
Who is also supportive. Wouldn't you agree?
Leila Fadel
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Steven Skiep
Is that how your uncle would say?
Leila Fadel
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Up First from NPR: Trump Marks 100 Days, Steve Bannon on Trump's Presidency, The "Big Beautiful Bill"
Release Date: April 30, 2025
Overview of Achievements and Actions
On the 100th day of his second term, President Donald Trump celebrated significant changes purported to transform America. According to the episode's opening remarks by Steven Skiep and Leila Fadel, these changes encompass:
Notable Insights:
Anticipating a Turbulent Summer
Steve Bannon, a former advisor to President Trump, discusses his expectations for the summer ahead. During his interview, Bannon emphasizes the convergence of spending cuts and a looming constitutional crisis.
“I think the convergence particularly of spending cuts and the simultaneously constitutional crisis that we're hurtling to is going to make this summer a summer like no other.” (00:25)
Defense of Trump’s First 100 Days:
Bannon lauds the administration's progress, asserting that Trump's first 100 days have enacted profound changes unmatched in nearly a century.
“In 100 days, we have delivered the most profound change in Washington in nearly 100 years. I read an editorial today that this is the most consequential presidency in history. How about that?” (02:31)
Bannon’s Vision for America:
He advocates for revitalizing manufacturing and traditional family structures as pillars for a vibrant and robust nation.
“We got to start making things again. The high value added part of manufacturing has to come back something that a man or woman can have a job and have a family and have their spouse stay home if they so want and raise their kids. Once we're back to that, the country's going to be vibrant and robust again.” (09:33)
Notable Observations:
Comparing Trump’s First and Second Terms
Tamara Keith provides an in-depth analysis of the differences and similarities between Trump’s first and second terms.
Key Differences:
Key Similarities:
Notable Quotes:
Tamara Keith (04:21):
“He has a lot more experience as a longtime Trump ally told me. He has been through the knife fights and knows how to use the levers of power.” (04:30)
Tamara Keith (06:01):
“Like in his first term, significant parts of Trump's agenda are being held up in the courts, which he made clear he isn't happy about.” (06:01)
Legislative Priorities and Challenges
Republican lawmakers have returned from a two-week recess with the ambitious goal of passing President Trump’s extensive "Big Beautiful Bill" by Memorial Day, less than a month away. This bill encompasses a wide range of policy areas, including taxes, immigration, and significant spending cuts.
"All of our committees have been meeting both individually. We've been meeting with the president for about a year to get to this moment and start delivering on those things that we all ran on." (11:04)
Spending Cuts and Budget Framework:
Policy Divisions:
Notable Quotes:
Rep. Steve Scalise (11:04):
"All of our committees have been meeting both individually. We've been meeting with the president for about a year to get to this moment and start delivering on those things that we all ran on." (11:04)
Senator Josh Hawley (13:06):
“I'm not going to compromise on [Medicaid cuts], given just how many people in my state rely on both Medicaid and the related Children's Health Insurance program.” (12:17-13:06)
Balancing Factions within the GOP:
With a razor-thin majority, Republicans must unify various factions to ensure the passage of the "Big Beautiful Bill." Balancing aggressive policy goals with the need to maintain party cohesion is critical.
Steve Bannon’s Influence and Predictions:
Bannon anticipates significant confrontations and a transformative summer, driven by his push for more aggressive policy actions and attacks on bureaucratic institutions.
Concluding Insights:
The episode underscores a pivotal moment in Trump’s administration, marked by ambitious legislative agendas, internal party negotiations, and the enduring influence of key figures like Steve Bannon. As Republicans strive to enact substantial policy changes, the interplay between loyalty, policy priorities, and external challenges will shape the trajectory of the administration’s second 100 days.
Steve Bannon (00:25):
“I think the convergence particularly of spending cuts and the simultaneously constitutional crisis that we're hurtling to is going to make this summer a summer like no other.”
Steve Bannon (02:31):
“In 100 days, we have delivered the most profound change in Washington in nearly 100 years. I read an editorial today that this is the most consequential presidency in history. How about that?”
Tamara Keith (04:30):
“He has a lot more experience as a longtime Trump ally told me. He has been through the knife fights and knows how to use the levers of power.”
Steve Bannon (09:33):
“We got to start making things again. The high value added part of manufacturing has to come back something that a man or woman can have a job and have a family and have their spouse stay home if they so want and raise their kids."
Rep. Steve Scalise (11:04):
“All of our committees have been meeting both individually. We've been meeting with the president for about a year to get to this moment and start delivering on those things that we all ran on.”
Senator Josh Hawley (13:06):
“I'm not going to compromise on [Medicaid cuts], given just how many people in my state rely on both Medicaid and the related Children's Health Insurance program.”
This summary encapsulates the key discussions from the April 30, 2025, episode of NPR's Up First, offering a comprehensive overview for listeners and non-listeners alike.