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Michelle Martin
Good morning. Happy 4th. Why am I the only person with a patriotic outfit? I didn't understand.
Tamara Keith
I don't need an outfit, Michelle. The flag is on my heart.
Michelle Martin
President Trump is planning a Fourth of July signing ceremony for his big domestic policy bill.
Donald Trump
So we'll be signing with those beautiful planes flying right over our heads.
Tamara Keith
But is the bill a political win for Republicans or a long term liability?
Michelle Martin
I'm Michelle Martin with a Martinez and this is up first from NPR News. The Pentagon has paused weapons shipments to Ukraine, saying its stockpiles are low. That leaves Ukraine without crucial munitions like air defense missiles. Can Ukraine defend itself against escalating Russian attacks without them?
Tamara Keith
And more immigrants are expected to leave the US Than come in. Economists are warning that that could be a major drain on the economy in.
Steve Scalise
If we decide as a country that we don't want to welcome immigrants, that's a choice we can make. I just want us to make that choice with our eyes wide open.
Tamara Keith
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Tamara Keith
Today, President Trump will get the Independence Day signing ceremony he's been demanding.
Michelle Martin
This is for the mega bill he and Republicans in Congress pushed over the finish line yesterday afternoon. Speaking under the wing of Air Force One as he departed for a victory rally in Iowa. Trump said the celebration would include a military aircraft flyover.
Donald Trump
And it's going to be a great day, so we'll be signing with those beautiful planes flying right over our heads.
Michelle Martin
The one big beautiful bill, as President Trump has been calling it, contains the president's entire domestic legislative agenda with more.
Tamara Keith
We're joined now by NPR senior White House correspondent Tamara Keith. So, Tam, what is the president saying about this bill's passage?
Joanna Kakisis
Well, as you might imagine, he and his allies are taking a victory lap. Trump was in Iowa last night for a rally and said with this bill, he kept every major promise he made to voters when he ran for office last year.
Donald Trump
Very simply, the one big beautiful bill would deliver the strongest border on earth, the strongest economy on earth, the strongest military on earth, and ensure the United States of America will remain the strongest country anywhere on this beautiful planet of ours.
Joanna Kakisis
Trump was, to borrow a word he likes to use, rather braggadocious about his success last night, asking, has anybody ever had a better two weeks?
Tamara Keith
Now, 48 hours ago, though, there was some drama. I mean, it looked like that bill and the president's time timeline were in trouble. So what happened?
Joanna Kakisis
Well, there were quite a few Republican holdouts, but President Trump turned on the charm and then he turned up the pressure. And ultimately, all but two Republicans in the House who had been holding out folded. At a press conference after the bill passed, Majority Leader Steve Scalise gave Trump all the credit.
Tamara Keith
Donald Trump absolutely was our closer. And Donald Trump never stopped. Every day was there in the fight, who do I need to call?
Wendy Edelberg
What do I need to do?
Tamara Keith
No president more directly engaged.
Joanna Kakisis
This was a pivotal moment in Trump's presidency, and he and his party rose to it. It took all night debates and arm twisting and passed with incredibly narrow margins in both the House and the Senate. And the question now is whether it becomes a long term political win or more of an albatross.
Tamara Keith
Oh, okay. Sounds like you're talking about the midterm elections.
Joanna Kakisis
Indeed, next year, Republicans in swing districts will have to defend their votes. And so far, public polling has found this bill to be pretty unpop. Democrats have had a lot of success in branding it as a tax cut for the rich at the expense of the poor and the vulnerable. A senior White House official conceded in a call yesterday with reporters that the president and Republicans are going to have to educate the public on what's actually in the bill, including things that are popular, like no tax on tips or expanding the child tax credit. And another thing to watch is the Medicaid cuts in the bill, which an independent analysis found would cause nearly 12 million people to lose coverage. Those will phase in more slowly, which may give Republicans some political cover because people often don't draw a direct line between things happening in their lives and something politicians in Washington passed years earlier.
Tamara Keith
Yeah. Now still a lot of uncertainty, though, various global conflicts, the US Tariff policy. What challenges lie ahead, though?
Joanna Kakisis
Well, it depends on how you feel about tariffs. Early next week, Trump's tariff pause is set to end and his administration has not had much success striking trade deals. So he says he's just going to start sending letters to countries telling them how high their tariffs will be going forward. Economists say tariffs are going to hit American consumers, but Trump is unconcerned. Trump is also burning up the phones to various world leaders trying to wind down the conflicts in Gaza and Ukraine. And then there's Iran. All of which is to say a president's work is never done.
Tamara Keith
NPR senior White House correspondent Tamarake, thanks.
Joanna Kakisis
You're welcome.
Tamara Keith
Ukraine says it needs crucial munitions such as air defense missiles as Russia escalates its airstrikes on Ukrainian cities, including a large scale attack on the capital Kyiv overnight.
Michelle Martin
The Pentagon says the US Might not have enough stockpiles and has paused some weapons shipments already promised to Ukraine. Meanwhile, President Trump called Russian leader Vladimir Putin on Thursday and is expected to speak to Ukraine's president later today.
Tamara Keith
With us now to discuss all of this is NPR's Ukraine correspondent Joanna Kakis, who is in Kyiv. And a warning. We're going to hear sounds of explosions and gunfire during this report. So, Joanna, did President Trump make any progress in convincing his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, to end the war in this phone call?
Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Well, President Trump said he did not make progress and that aligns with what the Kremlin told state run media in Moscow. Kremlin aide Yuri Shakov said Putin will not agree to a ceasefire until what he calls the root causes of Russia's invasion of Ukraine are addressed.
Tamara Keith
Root causes. That sounds like something we've heard before.
Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Yeah, that's usually shorthand for the Kremlin's claim that it invaded Ukraine in 2022 to prevent the country from joining NATO, the Western Security alliance. Now, the Kremlin has said NATO could use Ukraine as a launchpad to attack Russia. Now, Ukraine and its allies have firmly rejected this claim. And also Vladimir Putin himself has suggested that all of Ukraine belongs to Russia.
Tamara Keith
Now, did Putin and Trump discuss the military aid the Pentagon says it's withholding from Ukraine?
Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Well, the Kremlin said that the weapons pause was not discussed during this call. The Pentagon says the reason for the pause is that it's been reviewing stockpiles and discovered certain weapons, especially air defense missiles, are running low. However, the shipments were already on their way to Ukraine and they have reportedly stopped in Poland, according to NPR's Tom Bowman. Now Ukraine is trying to find a new source for some weapons and munitions, including making their own. Ukrainian security analyst Hanna Scheles told me that cannot happen quickly.
Joanna Kakisis
Ukraine is now developing different types of munitions because we understand that we don't have reliable partners anymore. But at the same time, we cannot just do it in one month and.
Volodymyr Zelenskyy
A There are items like missiles for American designed Patriot air defense systems that only the US can provide, at least for now.
Tamara Keith
Now, how have Ukrainians reacted to this pause?
Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Well, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said he wants to speak to Trump about it. The two leaders are set to talk by phone later this morning. Because Russian airstrikes are now more frequent, Ukraine is burning through air defense supplies to protect its cities. So a I recorded air defense teams last night here in Kyiv trying to shoot down Russian drones and missiles flying over our neighborhood. We heard explosions all night. There were injuries, fires, lots of dam. And this morning the air had this burning smell. And now on Thursday, a city that's less protected than Kyiv was attacked. The city of Poltava. It's about a four hour drive east of Kyiv. We spoke with Olha Tokova, a 34 year old mom there. She saw a drone flying over her car as she was picking her child up from kindergarten.
Michelle Martin
It is becoming more and more dangerous in Poltava.
Joanna Kakisis
Of course we have a lot of people fighting, but everyone says that we.
Michelle Martin
Really lack weapons, air defense to defend ourselves.
Volodymyr Zelenskyy
So it's really obvious to her and other Ukrainians that air defense is crucial now, especially as the Kremlin appears determined to continue its war on Ukraine.
Tamara Keith
That's NPR's Joanna Kakisis in Kyiv. Joanna, thank you.
Volodymyr Zelenskyy
You're welcome.
Tamara Keith
Since its founding, the United States has been a nation of immigrants.
Michelle Martin
Most Americans have ancestors who came from somewhere else, either by choice or by as we mark this Independence Day, a big demographic shift is underway. Forecasters say for the first time in more than six decades, more immigrants are likely to leave the US Then come in this year, and that could be a drag on the economy.
Tamara Keith
NPR's Scott Horsley joins us now. So, Scott, what's behind this shift?
Wendy Edelberg
We know that illegal immigration across the southern border has pretty much dried up. The Trump administration has also been narrowing a lot of legal pathways for immigration like the refugee program and temporary visas. So a joint forecast from the left leaning Brookings Brookings Institution and the right leaning American Enterprise Institute projects there will be at least two and a half million fewer immigrants coming into the country this year than in 2024. And Brookings Wendy Edelberg says at the same time, we're seeing more immigrants leaving the US either through deportation or voluntarily.
Steve Scalise
It stands to reason that if you make the United States a really inhospitable place for immigrants, then immigrants, particularly those with really good outside options, those immigrants will leave.
Wendy Edelberg
Edelberg expects the net outflow of immigration to increase next year. That big GOP spending bill that just passed includes a lot more money for immigration enforcement and makes other changes designed to make coming to the US Less inviting.
Tamara Keith
Yeah, and one thing that has historically drawn people to the US Is the strong economy. So what does it mean if that flow is suddenly reversed?
Wendy Edelberg
Immigration has been helping prop up the US Economy. We would not have enjoyed the strong job gains in recent years had it not been for the big infl of foreign born workers. Some of those prominent companies in the US have been started by immigrants. Edelberg says if that pipeline is choked off and more immigrants head for the exits, the US Will be left with fewer workers, fewer people spending money, and a smaller economy overall.
Steve Scalise
I feel strongly that, look, if we decide as a country that we don't want to welcome immigrants, that's a choice we can make. I just want us to make that choice with our eyes wide open.
Wendy Edelberg
Now, the Trump administration has a theory that there are a lot of native born Americans sitting on the sidelines who could be lured into the job market to take the place of the missing immigrants. There's not a lot of historical evidence of that, but that's the gamble the White House is making here.
Tamara Keith
If more people keep leaving the US Than actually coming in, what happens? Does that population drain just continue?
Wendy Edelberg
Not necessarily. The forecasters at Brookings and AEI think after a couple of years of out migration, there will be enough pushback from employers and ordinary citizens that we will start to see some of these policies reversed. And once again, the flow of immigrants into the US Will gradually return. But you know that's not guaranteed. Edelberg warns that once the US Pulls up the welcome map, immigrants who by definition have a lot of get up and go, might decide to take their talents elsewhere.
Steve Scalise
While we're doing this grand experiment, other countries, if they're clever, will say to the most highly productive best immigrants no.
Joanna Kakisis
Come here.
Steve Scalise
We will welcome you with open arms.
Wendy Edelberg
So even if the US eventually changes course, it may not be so easy to win the immigrants back. You know, Adam Smith published his famous economics treatise, the wealth of nations back in 1776, just a few months before the Declaration of Independence was signed. In the two and a half centuries since then, immigration has been a great source of wealth for this nation. We'll see if that continues.
Tamara Keith
All right. NPR's Scott Horsley. Scott, thank you.
Wendy Edelberg
You're welcome.
Tamara Keith
And that's up first for Friday, July 4th. Happy Independence Day. I'm Amy Martinez.
Michelle Martin
And I'm Michelle Martin. Just a few decades ago, the majority of Americans trusted the same news sources. But these days, news outlets don't even agree on a shared version of reality.
Tamara Keith
We are increasingly split into separate bubbles.
Scott Horsley
Absorbing different information that paints conflicting pictures of the same events.
Michelle Martin
This weekend, the Sunday Story takes us back to the moment when our shared media ecosystem split. To find out if we can sew it back together, tune in this weekend right here in the up first feed.
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Detailed Summary of NPR's "Up First" Episode: "Trump's Victory Lap, Ukraine Weapons, Immigration And The Economy"
Release Date: July 4, 2025
Introduction
On this Independence Day episode of NPR's "Up First," hosts Michelle Martin, Tamara Keith, and others delve into President Donald Trump's highly anticipated Fourth of July signing ceremony, the Pentagon's pause on weapons shipments to Ukraine amid escalating Russian aggression, and a significant shift in U.S. immigration patterns that could impact the nation's economy.
Overview
President Donald Trump is set to hold a grand Fourth of July signing ceremony for his comprehensive domestic policy legislation, referred to as the "one big beautiful bill." This bill represents Trump's entire domestic legislative agenda and encompasses significant changes aimed at bolstering the U.S. economy, strengthening the military, and tightening border security.
Key Points and Discussions
Signing Ceremony Details:
Michelle Martin introduces the event with light-hearted remarks before transitioning to the gravity of the forthcoming legislation. Trump emphasizes the ceremonial grandeur, stating at [00:20], “So we'll be signing with those beautiful planes flying right over our heads,” highlighting the involvement of military aircraft during the ceremony.
Legislative Content and Impact:
The bill aims to deliver the "strongest border," "strongest economy," and "strongest military" on Earth, as Trump proudly proclaimed at [03:28]. It also includes provisions like no tax on tips and an expansion of the child tax credit, which the administration believes will benefit many Americans.
Political Maneuvering and Passage:
Despite facing initial resistance from some Republican holdouts, Trump employed strategic negotiations to secure the bill's passage. At [04:18], Majority Leader Steve Scalise credited Trump’s relentless efforts: “Donald Trump absolutely was our closer. And Donald Trump never stopped. Every day was there in the fight, who do I need to call? What do I need to do? No president more directly engaged.”
Potential Political Risks:
The bill's passage comes with risks, especially with upcoming midterm elections. Public polling indicates that the bill is relatively unpopular, with Democrats portraying it as favoring the wealthy at the expense of the poor and vulnerable. Additionally, the bill includes Medicaid cuts, which an independent analysis suggests could result in nearly 12 million Americans losing coverage—a point that could be politically detrimental for Republicans.
Future Implications:
A senior White House official mentioned at [04:35], “the president and Republicans are going to have to educate the public on what's actually in the bill,” emphasizing the need to highlight popular elements to mitigate negative perceptions.
Overview
Amid Russia's intensified airstrikes on Ukrainian cities, the Pentagon has paused weapons shipments to Ukraine, citing depleted stockpiles, particularly of crucial munitions like air defense missiles. This development raises concerns about Ukraine's ability to defend itself effectively against Russian advances.
Key Points and Discussions
Pause in Weapons Shipments:
Michelle Martin reports at [02:38], “The Pentagon has paused weapons shipments to Ukraine, saying its stockpiles are low,” signaling a potential gap in Ukraine’s defensive capabilities during a critical phase of the conflict.
Impact on Ukrainian Defense:
Ukraine is struggling to defend against Russia's intensified airstrikes without essential munitions. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy expressed frustration, stating, “[07:32] the Kremlin said that the weapons pause was not discussed during this call.”
Diplomatic Efforts:
Despite ongoing diplomatic engagements, including a phone call between Trump and Vladimir Putin, there has been no significant progress toward a ceasefire. Putin remains steadfast, asserting that a ceasefire won't occur until the "root causes" of Russia's invasion are addressed, a term often used to justify the invasion.
On-the-Ground Reality:
Reports from Kyiv and Poltava depict a grim situation where Ukrainian air defense teams are actively combating Russian drones and missiles. Olha Tokova, a resident of Poltava, shared her harrowing experience: “I saw a drone flying over my car as I was picking my child up from kindergarten” ([08:57]).
Ukraine’s Response and Adaptation:
In response to the halted shipments, Ukraine is exploring alternative sources for munitions, including domestic production. However, Ukrainian security analyst Hanna Scheles cautions that developing reliable domestic production capabilities is not a swift solution.
Presidential Communications:
As tensions escalate, President Trump is actively engaging with world leaders to seek resolutions to conflicts in Gaza, Ukraine, and Iran, underscoring that “a president's work is never done” ([05:49]).
Overview
For the first time in over six decades, projections indicate that more immigrants are expected to leave the United States than enter in 2025. This demographic shift poses potential challenges to the U.S. economy, which has historically benefited from immigration-driven labor and innovation.
Key Points and Discussions
Current Immigration Trends:
Tamara Keith highlights that "forecasters say for the first time in more than six decades, more immigrants are likely to leave the US than come in this year," pointing to a significant reversal in immigration patterns ([10:24]).
Reasons Behind the Shift:
Wendy Edelberg from the Brookings Institution explains, “[10:47] illegal immigration across the southern border has pretty much dried up. The Trump administration has also been narrowing a lot of legal pathways for immigration like the refugee program and temporary visas,” contributing to fewer new immigrants entering the country.
Policy Changes and Enforcement:
The recent GOP spending bill increases funding for immigration enforcement and implements policies aimed at making the U.S. less inviting to immigrants. Wendy Edelberg notes, “[11:31] the Trump administration has a theory that there are a lot of native-born Americans sitting on the sidelines who could be lured into the job market to take the place of the missing immigrants.”
Economic Implications:
Immigration has been a cornerstone of the U.S. economy, driving job growth and fostering innovation. Edelberg warns that reducing immigration could lead to labor shortages, decreased consumer spending, and a slower-growing economy: “We would not have enjoyed the strong job gains in recent years had it not been for the big inflow of foreign-born workers” ([11:52]).
Political Perspectives:
Republican Congressman Steve Scalise asserts, “[12:15] If we decide as a country that we don't want to welcome immigrants, that's a choice we can make. I just want us to make that choice with our eyes wide open,” emphasizing a belief in prioritizing native-born citizens for economic opportunities.
Potential Long-Term Effects:
Forecasters anticipate that sustained outflow may trigger economic pushback, potentially leading to policy reversals as employers and citizens recognize the negative impacts. Wendy Edelberg cautions, “once the US pulls up the welcome map, immigrants who by definition have a lot of get up and go, might decide to take their talents elsewhere” ([13:14]).
Future Projections:
While some predict a gradual return of immigrants once policies are adjusted, there is skepticism about reclaiming lost momentum, as highlighted by Scalise’s remark, “We will welcome you with open arms” ([13:23]).
Overview
The episode briefly touches on the growing fragmentation of the media ecosystem, where different news outlets present conflicting versions of reality, contributing to societal divisions. The upcoming "Sunday Story" will explore this phenomenon in greater depth.
Key Points and Discussions
Media Ecosystem Split:
Michelle Martin and Tamara Keith discuss how historically, Americans trusted the same news sources, but now, media outlets cater to separate bubbles, leading to divergent perceptions of events ([14:07]).
Upcoming Exploration:
The hosts invite listeners to tune into the "Sunday Story" for an in-depth analysis of the media split and potential solutions to bridge the divide ([14:14]).
NPR's "Up First" delivers a comprehensive overview of significant national and international issues on this Independence Day. From President Trump's ambitious legislative agenda and its political ramifications to the critical support challenges facing Ukraine and the consequential shifts in U.S. immigration, the episode provides listeners with critical insights and expert analyses. The discussion on media fragmentation also sets the stage for future explorations into how information consumption is shaping societal dynamics.
Notable Quotes for Reference:
Trump on the Signing Ceremony:
“[00:20] So we'll be signing with those beautiful planes flying right over our heads.”
Majority Leader Steve Scalise on Bill Passage:
“[04:18] Donald Trump absolutely was our closer. And Donald Trump never stopped. Every day was there in the fight, who do I need to call? What do I need to do? No president more directly engaged.”
Steve Scalise on Immigration Policy:
“[12:15] If we decide as a country that we don't want to welcome immigrants, that's a choice we can make. I just want us to make that choice with our eyes wide open.”
Olha Tokova’s Experience in Poltava:
“[08:57] I saw a drone flying over my car as I was picking my child up from kindergarten.”
This summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and conclusions drawn during the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't listened.