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Clay Travis
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in. I say back in cause we're on every day but this is the first moment you've heard from us today. It is the Thursday edition of Clay and Buck. Lots going on. We are getting nearly record highs in the stock market. Fairly solid results coming out on the economy overall. Pete Hegseth testifying for a second straight day, this time to the Senate as everyone on the Democrat side is screaming at him. Big news I would say that has come out from the state of Maine where the Senate primary to challenge Susan Collins, which will go a long way towards determining who has control of the Senate. There is virtually no pathway to Democrats taking back control of the Senate that doesn't include winning in Maine. Buck, I don't know if you know this. I was doing research this morning. Susan Collins is the only Republican statewide elected official in the House or the Senate side in all of New England. So there's a lot of talk right now about gerrymandering. I shared the map picture. There is not a single Republican in Maine, in New Hampshire, in Massachusetts, in Vermont. That whole region of the country all has been dominated and taken over by Democrats, even though there are a lot of Republican voters in those areas. So Susan Collins is talk about the 80s and the 90s off air a little bit. The Last of the Mohicans, Buck, which is a fantastic movie.
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Clay Travis
Also underrated Michael Mann masterpiece. Daniel Day Lewis basically lived in the woods for months and completely took on that character. It's really when Daniel Day Lewis was hitting his stride as one of the greatest actors of his era. If you have not seen that last the Mohicans movie so good and honestly, if you have seen it, go back and watch it again. It is so well done. The music is incredible. The combat sequences hold up very well. Great movie.
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Buck Sexton
I actually you sent me a clip of Beverly Hills Cop that I was watching this morning, which is a very funny scene. I actually there is a scene in Last of the Mohicans that is about four minutes long and is just Music and it's all during the battle fight when they're burning the guy at the stake. If you remember, this is the, this
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Clay Travis
is leading up to the final confrontation with Magua, played by Wes Studi, a fantastic American Indian actor who was also in Heat. He was in Dances with Wolves. I celebrate his whole catalog.
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Buck Sexton
He's, he's a very talented guy. There's about a four minute, no audio segment of that movie that went viral because a lot of people haven't seen it. When did that come out? Like 1992, 93ish probably. It's so good. And Elizabeth, Elizabeth Warren has so taken over New England. Continuing our Native American theme here that she is, she has eliminated everybody but Susan Collins. So, so in the New England area, the state of Maine is deciding who is going to run against, against Susan Collins. And the expectation was going to be Janet Mills, the governor. She's old but has been elected statewide to Maine a lot. She had an expectation that she was basically going to waltz Democrat Senate nomination in Maine. Graham Platner, who is the 41 or 42 year old former bartender with a Nazi tattoo on his chest. He smoked her and she dropped out this morning. So it is going to be Susan Collins against Graham Platner. I would say this, you might say. Okay, Clay, what is the impact here? First of all, there's an actual guy with a Nazi tattoo that Democrats decided in a state like Maine that is kind of a purple state. Hey, this is the guy that we want to be the avatar for our, for our overall party. And this is indicative Buck of for those of you out there that are Jewish, the Democrat party hates you now. I mean that's just the reality. They called Trump a Nazi as an insult. They now have nominated a guy with an actual Nazi tattoo on his chest and he is going to be their, their, their vanguard for trying to take back the, the Senate. Here's something that I think is worth thinking about. You like to talk about hubris, Buck. Is it possible that Democrats are getting so cocky as they look at the 2026 midterm that they are starting to nominate actual far left wing nominees that may not play as well in their states. And I'll give you another example. They are I think in Michigan going to nominate this guy Al Sayed, who is crazy, crazy left winger out of, out of Michigan. He's going to win I think a competitive Democrat primary. Now that's just two states but Michigan is an open Senate seat Republicans are defending in Maine. If Republicans win either of those seats There is no mathematical equation that leads to any kind of challenge to Republican control in the Senate. And you and I have talked about this a great deal. But it is important to keep in mind we have a lot of older members of the Supreme Court. We've talked about Alito, we've talked about Thomas. John Roberts is no spring chicken. Now. You never know when a opening is potentially going to occur. If Democrats take back control of the Senate, there will be no Supreme Court opportunity to fill any vacancy for two years. So understand that the 2028 presidential election would then be about who is going to be able to win that race to be able to pick a next Supreme Court justice.
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Clay Travis
Just FYI, this was like a Clay nado. Like we're all over the place here. We're talking New England, we're talking gerrymandering. I'm tying it all together, fight Supreme Court justices. I mean you give Clay Travis a five minute monologue, you're going to cover every, no, no reference to sports though. Little sad about that. But you. But there'll be opportunities. There'll be opportunities. Is there anything going on in sports these days? I don't even know.
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Buck Sexton
So the Atlanta Braves can't lose. I like I said yesterday, I watched the Atlanta Braves every night. Nice walk off home run by Matt Olsen against the Detroit Tigers.
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Clay Travis
Think. Do you think that this so this morning, as I'm sure as you were drinking your Crockett coffee because it's the best delicious coffee as I was, I actually was listening to. I'm drinking it right now, Supreme Court oral arguments. By the way, today's the first day of the week. The Clay and I have not worn the same color T shirt by accident. There is in fact no uniform on the Clay and Buck show. But sometimes you might get confused because I don't know mind meld. I'm like, if I wear anyway, I'm not even going to get into that right now. Point is, Supreme Court arguments this morning. Did you be listening into some of this? Yeah, I think that, I think that this is going to be it's probably a 6:3, but it's a 6:3 where the dissent is just going to be a whiny MSNBC comments rant from, from Kagan, Sotomayor and KBJ because it's really straightforward. Just so you all, you guys all know what's going on here. You have basically people representing Syrian temporary protected status individuals and Haitian temporary protected status individuals. And those people are saying you're not allowed to end our temporary protected status now and they've brought this all the way up the Supreme Court. This is interesting to me, Clay, because in the word or in the phrase, there is this thing temporary, temporary protected status means we, the American people are willing to give you safe harbor for a limited period of time with the understanding you will return home when you don't face, you know, torture, rape, mutilation, death squad, all of that stuff. Right. This is just us being nice. But unfortunately, this goes in the immigration category of the no good deed goes unpunished side of things. Because we've taken them in and now they're basically saying, well, we get to stay forever. And people say no. They're not saying forever, no. Well, they're saying that the process of ending their temporary status was an illegitimate process. The process is the government gets to say, ok, go home now. That is the process. But what they're trying to do is make this a race issue because then, oh, it's, it's a little bit like, you know, did O.J. you know, did O.J. kill his wife and that guy in a horrible, brutal fashion? Well, yeah, of course, but cops were racist once in Los Angeles, right? And they're trying to make this something else. They're challenging this by saying, well, it's non white people that are being told to go back to their homes. And we allowed some South Africans to come to America who are white, who are facing racial persecution, by the way, which is the point. And now I. Clay, it was honestly one of the weakest oral arguments from the Democrats I think I've ever heard. So it's not going to be a 9o, but I think it is a reminder to everybody that with immigration, your kindness, you, the American people, your kindness is never respected. Your kindness for people that are on temporary protected status is to be taken advantage of.
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Buck Sexton
After we talked yesterday, I got a bunch of emails from people who are involved in the SNAP program, Buck. And they were emailing me. Yes, they were emailing me. Just saying Republicans have basically gotten so afraid of being accused of hating poor people.
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Clay Travis
Right?
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Buck Sexton
I mean, that is the number one line of attack that Democrats bring to bear. You hate poor people. The amount of money, I don't think most people are even aware of it. The amount of money, $800 a month for free food and the degree to which people qualify for it is staggering. $10,000 a year in just basically the government giving you free food credits that you can take to a grocery store. $10,000. Like we talk a lot about whether there should be universal basic income in the country now right there is. And I think it directly ties into immigration. I was looking the average SNAP person, right? Receipt recipient makes almost more money buck in free food in the United States. Then I need to do research on this team. This is what you need, a full time researcher on the show. Because sometimes my math is not 100% correct. I want to make sure I believe that if you live in Iran today, I think the average person is living in Iran. It's something on like $8,000 a year in terms of GNP basic. You can make more money just by living in the United States in free groceries than the average person does living in Iran, period. Think about that for a moment. We give free food to the poorest people in America. That is worth more than many people make in an entire year living in a different country. And then we're surprised that people do everything they can to get here. SNAP benefits alone in the United States are worth more than most people make in a year for actually working. We just give people free food here. And again, I think a lot of this you come back to and say the most overweight people in America are people that are getting free food in America. So there isn't any actual starvation or significant hunger that exists among the poor in the United States. By and large. It just doesn't exist. No one starves to death here. In fact, you end up super fat on government funded food. And again, people are so afraid of being accused of not liking poor people that they don't even aren't even willing to look at what we spend. I think our SNAP budget buck is approaching $100 billion a year. This is crazy stuff. I mean, we've just gotten used to spending such a huge amount in our federal budget that nobody looks at it and just ask questions because they're so afraid of being accused of sending kids home hungry, of not having anybody take it. There's nobody starving in the United States. It does not exist. We are giving people so much free stuff that the amount of the desperation to get here is. It makes sense. You can make more money in free food than you can working a whole year in much of the rest of the world.
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Clay Travis
You want me to really blow your mind? So Medicaid is the single biggest driver of debt and the single biggest line item in budgets of places like New York State. The biggest thing, the biggest thing, the state of New York. And remember federal dollars. They're always funneling federal dollars into the New York State Medicaid just like they do in California with Cal Care or whatever they call it. You know, Medi Cal, I think. Right? Yeah, I think it's Medi Cal, Clay. The most comprehensive study. This is from the New England Journal of Medicine. This isn't from, you know, right wing anti. Vaxmommy.net& not that there's anything wrong with that site, but the Oregon experiment, effects of Medicaid on clinical outcomes. They looked at a large. They looked at Thousands and thousands, 6,387 adults, Clay. And looked at people's health outcomes, Medicaid versus non Medicaid in the same. They controlled for. I won't describe the entire experiment. You know what they found? Having Medicaid coverage versus having no Medicaid coverage made no discernible difference whatsoever in health outcomes among the group. So we have this massive health care program that doesn't actually make people healthier and is the biggest driver of debt for most states, which we are paying for, by the way.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah, this is, this is my whole argument. If you just cut half of all medical treatment, there would be zero impact in average lifespan.
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Clay Travis
Right.
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Buck Sexton
If you just waved a magic wand and said, hey, we're going to cut 50% of all healthcare spending in the United States, I think it would have no impact. By the way, according to Grok, I'm right, the average household income in Iran is roughly equivalent to the average SNAP benefits in the United States. That is we give as much in free food as the average person living in Iran makes in a year. Think about how crazy that this is just free food. It's not even all the other benefits.
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Clay Travis
Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Thanks for Being here with us, we'll get back into some of the redistricting. Redistricting conversation and talk to the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis, who I'm just going to tell you is a Florida resident. I'm gonna have to say what he comes on. I. I always feel grateful to what a fantastic job he has done.
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Buck Sexton
We should we tease. It's kind of a good tease that one of our. One of our podcast has been nominated. So, yes, DeSantis will join us. Let me read this.
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Clay Travis
Can you please tell everybody, let's actually a tease is a promise. As they say in the business, let's keep our promise.
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Buck Sexton
President Trump, I am pleased to announce I am nominated doctor. I am nominating Dr. Safire to be the next Surgeon General of the United States of America. And he says she's an incredible communicator who makes complicated health issues more easily understood by all Americans. She'll do great things for our country and help make America healthy again. Congrats, Nicole. Our country has long been waiting for you. She is also now in the Clay and Buck podcast network. So this is the second person to leave the Clay and Buck podcast network. Among other things, she is a doctor. But to now we first Sean Parnell joined the Pentagon and he is the chief spokesperson for Pete Hegseth. And now Nicole Sapphire is going to be the Surgeon General. So you're stepping from the Clay and Buck podcast network into high levels of government jobs. She's obviously on Fox News and as well as a doctor, we've had Nicole on the program quite a bit over the years. She's great, but congratulations to her. This reminds me of when I did. You've known Pete for a long time. But I did election night from Kid Rock with Pete Hegseth. And then I didn't even know I was driving in the car pickup line for my kids. And I wasn't even sure when they were like, hey, what do you think about have the new secretary of defense nominee being a guy you've done shows with? And I was like, did. Did Bucket nominate? Like, it could have been anybody, right? Like, like, you know, but a lot of the people that you hear on this program are obviously very involved in government, so congrats to Dr. Sapphire.
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Clay Travis
Can I have I ever told you what is probably my favorite Pete Hegseth story from the Blaze days?
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Buck Sexton
Is it the drinking dirty water?
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Clay Travis
I did tell you. I did tell you. Yeah, yeah.
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Buck Sexton
But you should tell it again. I mean, I do think that's kind of indicative of, of, you know, where
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Clay Travis
we had, we had a survival gear sponsor who made a. This was. I want to be clear, this was in midtown Manhattan, folks. Okay. We had a survival gear sponsor at the Blaze who made some kind of a. Like, I don't. We're going back. This is almost 15 years ago.
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Ron DeSantis
Okay.
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Clay Travis
It's been a long time. And 13, 14 years ago, least. And, and it was like, you can be at a muddy stream or pond or whatever, and you run the water through this contraption and it is safe to drink. That was basically the thing. And I think it was Will. Will Kane, now Fox News's 4pm host, was my co host on Real News. There were a few of us. We had a. We was a roundtable. So there were four, plus a rotating guest. Rotating contributor. And Pete Hegseth was the. Was in that rotation. So he was the host for the day. And I remember, I think Will. It's like a very Will Kane thing to just be like, you know, I don't think, I don't think you're willing to really. You know, he kind of like, goaded.
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Buck Sexton
Goaded him.
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Clay Travis
Peed on this one a little bit. And, you know, they're very, you know, they hosted Fox and Friends together for years, so they're, they're very tight. They're very good buddies. But this was years and years ago. He's like, I don't think you'll do it. And to his credit, and I, I'm going to tell you that this is true. I actually kind of left him like, pete, don't. Don't do this. I was like, I was like, actually a little worried. I think this surprises none of you that Will is like, come on, step up. Let's see what you got. And Pete, now our secretary of war, went to a, you know, those like, oil slick kind of puddles on the side of a New York City sidewalk where the water is this kind of brown, translucent sludge, whatever. I kid you not. He scooped that up into the contraption, put it through and chugged it. I was amazed by the way he was fine. So it was actually. We should have videoed it because it was a great ad. But that was one of the ballsier things I'd seen anybody who was a TV host to at the time. Oh, of course. He turned to me. Clay, what do you think? Do you think I was like, oh, yeah, I'll try it now?
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Buck Sexton
0%. 0. You are willing to do that?
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Clay Travis
0%. You guys think captain, get off my lawn was going to try the dirty water? 0 chance I was like, only. Only Fiji in the bottle for me, sir. So anyway. But that's one of my favorite Pete stories off to. To be. Absolutely. I was like, I was like that
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Buck Sexton
was like the water for the peasants
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Clay Travis
out of the street. I think not. So. All right, now let's get to. I just kind of a fun, fun little memory lane thing there. It's amazing with that show. A lot of people who went on and did. Did great things and yeah, it's like for future secretary of Defense Secretary I do. I'm very confident they're going to change the name back if it's a Democratic. Whenever there is a Democrat administration, they're not going to keep the secretary War thing. Just so you guys. I mean, you know, so that's. I don't know how we're going to handle this now. We're going to go back and forth different administrations having. Anyway, let's talk Supreme Court TPS for a second here. Clay, I thought this was really interesting. One of the ways that
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Ron DeSantis
one of
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Clay Travis
the ways that the whole DEI affirmative action thing falls apart. There are many ways inherently, in principle, it's just wrong. But one of the ways it falls apart is when you start to dig into what are. Well, what are the classifications really. For example, if you're going to discriminate against white people, which is what DEI and affirmative action do, who qualifies as white? This is. I, I had a friend many years ago who was an Arab Egyptian born in Cairo who claimed that she was African for the purposes of her Cairo African, not African American, African for the purposes of her college admissions. And they, it was a huge scandal and they rescinded. I think they accepted and then rescinded. It was a big problem. And she's like, okay, so I'm from Africa, literally born and raised there. But, you know, I think she had applied to Harvard. But you don't accept that. So it's a skin color test. Is that. Is that what actually. And this is where it all. Listen to. This isn't just a theoretical the Supreme Court today talking about Haitian and Syrian temporary protected status individuals. Notice the temporary word in there. They're fighting this. No, no, no. You can. They've been had. They've had this for years and years and years. Hamidad. It's not like they've been here for two weeks. Notice the way that Alito pushes one of the plaintiffs in the case. The, the, what do you call it? Lawyer. What's the guy. He's a, you know, complainant. You use the legal Things. Yeah, yeah.
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Buck Sexton
I mean, typically would be the they're suing. So I, I, I don't know what the official title would be in front of the Supreme Court, but he is the advocate for the perspective of the
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Clay Travis
attorney for the plaintiff.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
So, so, so listen to this, though. What is white? Alito asks. Like, like I really listen to this Play one, Isn't it the case that TPS was terminated for quite a list of countries? I can't seem to find the particular page of the transcript where the district court goes through them all.
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Ron DeSantis
And
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Clay Travis
yes, none of those is a Nordic country, but, and I don't like dividing up the people of the world arbitrarily into three racial groups. But you say they're all non white. And that's the distinguishing characteristic.
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Plaintiff's Attorney
That is the distinguishing characteristic that the district court held. But I would, I would emphasize, Justice Alito, that do you think that if
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Clay Travis
you put Syrians, Turks, Greeks and other people who live around the Mediterranean in a lineup, do you think you could say those people are that all of them, are they all non white?
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Plaintiff's Attorney
I understand that Syrians, I think, may be classified as white for purposes of the State Department or for under, under certain government, you know, certain government programs. But again, I think race is, I think, you know, you'd have to poll the public to know what they think the race of a Syrian is. I certainly think they're not white.
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Clay Travis
Clay, he obviously starts, you know, jabbering on here. He has no, I actually want, I just want this to continue because this is Alito asking a very fair question. Your contention people suing is, oh, it's so racist because they don't want any of the, they're not, you know, it's only white people that are ok, but aren't there white people in these countries that, and when I say it's not like there's a few, aren't there people in some of these countries that are white that, you know, maybe even the majority of or a large percentage of Part two of this Supreme Court argument. Play this one. All the American people. Well, do they, do they think Syrians are white?
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Plaintiff's Attorney
I wouldn't think that most would, Justice Alito.
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Clay Travis
Really, I really don't. How about Turks?
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Plaintiff's Attorney
I honestly haven't considered what racial component I would sort Turks in.
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Clay Travis
How about Greeks?
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Plaintiff's Attorney
I don't know the answer to that either.
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Clay Travis
How about southern Italians?
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Plaintiff's Attorney
Well, well, certainly, certainly 120 years ago, when we had our last wave of European immigration, southern Italians were not considered white. So I think our concept of these things evolves over time that Spaniards, I think Same answer about 120 years ago, I don't think they were considered white.
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Clay Travis
A really large, really broad definition of who's white and who's not white. As I said, I don't like dividing the people of the world into these groups.
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Plaintiff's Attorney
I understand. I would say that even under this court's rationality, jurisprudence, if you look at cases like Moreno, it is not necessary for us to get strict scrutiny to win here. Because irrespective of how you.
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Clay Travis
Okay, put this aside because this is about the race thing, Clay. I've been to Greece. I mean, I've been to Athens. I've been to Madrid. If you walked around and you told your. I mean, I know there are also black people in these countries, of course, but your. What you think of as your average Greek or your average Madriggiano guy lives in Madrid and you're like, you're not white. They would laugh in your face. They'd be like, what are you talking about?
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Buck Sexton
I mean, that line of questioning is so. So I think indicative of the racial spoil system that Democrats have created and just kind of hoisting them on their proverbial petard by going through. I mean, look, it's like the drop of blood makes you black theory back in the day, right in. In. In the south during pre civil war era, Democrats have allowed identity politics to so take over their party that they have no way to escape. This is why Kamala has to be the nominee. To me, Buck, this is in 28, not only in 24, because certainly that's why she was the nominee in 24. The racial spoil system that they have created does not allow a black woman like Obama, like Kamala to be left behind from being the nominee. She's going to play the race and gender card to such an extent that I don't think there's any way Democrats are going to be able to get past her. I really don't buckle. And I saw. I was joking with you off air because the poly market for who's going to be the nominee, Kamala has quadrupled in the last. In the last couple of months her odds to be the nominee. And I. I'm not saying I. Look, whenever I give a prediction like this, I'm not saying I want it to happen charges.
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Clay Travis
Are you familiar with depth charges? You know, when they would try to
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Buck Sexton
drop things in and they drop it down.
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Clay Travis
I feel like you're depth charging Buck island right now. Like we're already deep underwater and you're dropping them way down and just boom, boom, boom. You know, I'm telling you, I think you've won this one.
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Buck Sexton
She is going to play I but I mean the step beyond. She's definitely going to run but she is going to be the nominee and some of you out there shaking your heads and you think I'm crazy. I'm telling you she's going to be the nominee. And I'll.
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Clay Travis
Can we, can we just, can we come back to this point though then? This.
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Buck Sexton
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
Will she be formidable if she's the nominee? Like do we have to worry about.
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Buck Sexton
Yes. There's an early tease in the business and who knows by the time we come back somebody else may be nominated from, from the the network to be a member of the administration. But I do want to tell you it's not very long till Mother's Day. And how many of you have taken care of your Mother's Day shopping? I bet a lot of you have not. Check out Cozy Earth. It's awesome. Cuddle blanket is impossible not to like. You cannot go wrong with that. Both on sale the Mother's Day along with the down alternative throw. Cozy Earth makes their own slippers to the puffy sheep slippers. How could those not be comfortable? They also have the lake house clogs. We've introduced so many of you to Cozy Earth sheets which we sleep on 100 night sleep trial 10 year warranty. Go to cozyearth.com use my name Clay as your promo code for 20 off. That's cozyearth.com promo code Clay for 20 off. If you use the post purchase survey please mention you heard about Cozy Earth on the show. That's cozyearth.com promo code C L A Y. It's like having your house at the perfect temperature all the time. Preset Clay and buck on the iHeart app sometimes.
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Clay Travis
Here we talk about New York is having perhaps the worst mayor in the country for any large city. Our largest city. We don't talk as much these days. We were before discussing that. It also has the state of New York. Unfortunately my home state. And I will always be a New Yorker. Just a very happy New York. I'm just a very happy Floridian now New Yorker in exile. But it also has one of the worst attorney generals in the country. Somebody who has completely undermine the rule of law by openly weaponizing her powers as attorney general Letitia James to go after Donald Trump. We talked about this a lot during that persecution. The absurdity of it. But there's somebody who's trying to do something about it as well. Saritha Cometaretti is running for New York attorney General. She is the Republican nominee for that post and she joins us now. Saritha, thank you for making the time for us.
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Saritha Komatireddy
Thank you so much. It's great to be here.
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Clay Travis
What has other than openly saying I want to get elected so I can go after Donald Trump and then bringing a farcical civil case against Donald Trump, pretending that Mar A Lago was worth $18 million, which anybody who spent three minutes in Palm beach knows is preposterous. All this stuff, what has she done in addition to that or other than that, which we know has been a disaster? The attorney general of New York so far has been up to what?
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Saritha Komatireddy
Well, what has she done? She's failed to keep New Yorkers safe. I mean, you see the headlines, I'm sure, just like I do. I experience them living in New York City. There's random violence. There's increased homelessness on the streets. There's people who feel ripped off every day because we don't know where our taxpayer money is going. We don't know why we pay for things where when other people seem to not to pay at all. And there's a sense of lawlessness in New York. And it's exactly for the reasons that you pointed out because our current attorney general, Letitia James, spent all of the resources of that office to pursue partisan vendettas instead of doing what a state attorney general should do, keep the citizens safe. And that's exactly why New York is in the shape that it's in right now.
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Buck Sexton
I want to get to the AG situation. I'm also a little bit of a legal nerd. So thank you for throwing your, your name in the, in the race here and being willing to deal with the slings and arrows. But I wanted to ask you, I believe you were on the D.C. circuit and clerked for Brett Kavanaugh. At least that's what the resume I read said. What was Judge Kavanaugh like and what was that experience like for you?
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Saritha Komatireddy
Well, Judge Kavanaugh, now Justice Kavanaugh was just is a phenomenal judge, is the hardest working person that I know, a very decent man, someone I consider a mentor and a friend and someone who really is a big supporter of all of his clerks and especially his female clerks. I often tell people the first opinion that I helped Justice Kavanaugh with was an opinion that we went through more than 100 drafts because he cares so much about getting the law right, making sure that the law also impacts people in the right way. You know, he's not someone who's stuck in the ivory tower. He really thinks about how does the law interact with people's everyday lives. And is the decision that he's coming to consistent with the law itself, respectful of the separation of powers, consistent with the text of the law, and does it make sense and how it fits in with people's everyday lives?
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Clay Travis
So what are you going to do differently if you become the Attorney General of the State of New York? Because a lot of people think of when you mentioned living in New York City, which I did for almost 40 years or so, there's crime on the streets there. People say, well, that's an NYPD thing and that's a local thing. And how does the Attorney General for New York play into making not just people in New York City, but people safe across the state more broadly? Like, what kind of priorities are set? I mean, take us into that.
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Saritha Komatireddy
Yeah, I mean, listen, the Attorney General can prosecute crime. You wouldn't know it because she doesn't really use those powers, but there's a number of areas where the Attorney General can prosecute crime on her own or with the signature of the governor or any state agency head. And the issue right now in New York is that we don't have strong prosecutors and we don't have strong prosecution policies and laws. We had this sea change in 2019 and 2020 where this anti law enforcement wave came into the state. And so even though for many years we did prosecute crime, well, we did keep the numbers low. We now have a phenomenon in New York where every day you hear about someone getting hurt and the person that's hurting them is a repeat offender already known to law enforcement, already arrested. But because of our broken system, that person is back out on the street. And to be fair, it's not the police's fault. We have the best police force in the world. They're real professionals. But the police can't do it alone. They need prosecutors to back them up and to follow through on the cases and actually make sure real consequences are imposed on the people that they catch. And that is where we're lacking in New York. So I'm going to use the Office of the Attorney General to make sure we actually prosecute crime. You know, we have a DA in Manhattan who issued a memo on day one saying, I'm not going to prosecute these, you know, 15 offenses, or I'm going to treat them with leniency. I'm going to knock down the charges well, the attorney General can step in and say, actually then I'm going to prosecute those things. A great example of this is subway crime. They don't. The DAs in New York City don't prosecute fare evasion. Even though the city and the state are losing millions of dollars a year and don't know how to make ends meet with their budget. They don't actually make many people, a huge fraction of people, pay the fare. But it's not just about the money. That's one part of it. The bigger problem is we now have people in the subways who are either mentally ill or, or who are actual violent criminals hurting others. And that's a problem. Those kinds of people should never be in the subway. Every day New Yorkers have to take the subway to go to work and go to school and see their families. They shouldn't be afraid of being pushed on the tracks, for example. But that's exactly what people are afraid of. You go on the subway today and everyone's got their back to the wall. Because you know what? In 2026, so far, nine people have been pushed on the tracks. And the last person who was pushed on the tracks was an elderly fellow, an 83 year old gentleman, Air Force veteran, pushed by someone who had 15 prior offenses. So this is the kind of lawlessness that we're seeing. And it's preventable because the Attorney General, as Attorney General on day one, I will create a transit crime strike force. I'll make sure we prosecute fair evasion so that dangerous people are stopped at the gates, aren't let in to the subway system at all. And I'll make sure we ban people like that, repeat offenders, violent offenders, from the subway system altogether.
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Clay Travis
We're speaking to Republican. Sorry.
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Buck Sexton
So I was just going to say, how does a Republican win in New York? What's the math?
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Saritha Komatireddy
Well, it's simple. You know, it's, it's, it's a very divided time in New York. You wouldn't necessarily know it from the outside, but when you live here, it's very simple. Most people in New York are not actually on the far left. We have a Democratic Party that's law all the way to the extremes. And there's a lot of folks in the middle who are looking for common sense. And what we're talking about, bringing back law and order, enforcing the laws, doing so in a way that's ethical and lawful, but enforcing the laws, those are things that most New Yorkers agree on and most Americans agree on. They want you to enforce the laws they want you to reduce crime, reduce homelessness, reduce fraud. They're not actually partisan issues. And we're going to win because of that.
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Clay Travis
So I've seen a poll that shows 54%. This is a recent poll, by the way. Sienna poll. 54% of voters are open to a different attorney general than the one that they have right now, which seems to line up with A lot of New Yorkers aren't crazy, it turns out.
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Saritha Komatireddy
Well, that's exactly right. 54% of New Yorkers either actively prefer someone other than Letitia James are open to someone else, that is, she is the weakest incumbent in New York State. She's less popular than the governor that you just answered the question of exactly why it's winnable.
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Clay Travis
So you're just so you know, you're on wor, a massive station in New York City right now. You're on WGY and all that. I mean, I can't name. We got stations all over the state of New York, which is fine. We're heard out in Long island on and so that's good. I'm curious though, are you getting any, any fair attention, any fair time from the rest of the new year, by the way, Letitia James. Absolutely. Welcome to come on this program team. Make sure we have that. I know. I think we already did have it out, but let's sure we have that invite out to her. She is welcome to come and talk to us about why she hasn't been the worst attorney general in the history of New York State. Well, although Spitzer was kind of bad. How is the New York media treating you? Are you getting a fair shot at all from them? Who's putting your. Because I feel like we just got to get your name out there more. Letitia James is terrible. She's honestly just terrible. I can say. I can say whatever I want. It's opinion show. She's awful.
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Saritha Komatireddy
Well, listen, I appreciate that question. We are making our way around the state. We're getting a lot of. We were getting a lot of attention. I was in Albany yesterday. I had a press conference talking about exactly what we were just discussing transit crime. And I was standing alongside, alongside legislators in Albany who are proposing enhanced penalties for those crimes. I was in Buffalo a few weeks ago holding a press conference there. And you know, local TV radio has had me on there, including a number of different shows, you know, Channel two sports talk radio. So we are making our way around. And the most important thing that I would say, given the statewide reach is you would be surprised the issues that I talk about, the repeat offenders out on the streets, the increase in drug deaths, the issue of homelessness, they're not just city issues. These are issues that every county in New York state is experiencing. And I know that because I am going county by county and holding law enforcement roundtables. I just had another one this morning in Greene county where I sit down with the sheriffs and the police and the DA's and I say hey, what is going on? What are you seeing? What are you hearing? And it is always some version of the same story. There are no consequences anymore in New York and law abiding people know it and they're getting frustrated and the criminals know it and they are committing more crime because that's what happens when there's no consequences. These are solvable problems. We're going to solve them together because we're going to put together a common sense coalition across the political spectrum to bring change to New York.
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Clay Travis
Saritha, where can folks go in the state of New York they want to help out, get involved.
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Saritha Komatireddy
My website, Saritha S A R I T H A for New York all spelled out that comm. There's a form on there. There's more information. You'll see my recent media appearance as
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Ron DeSantis
well as well, good luck.
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Clay Travis
Be nice to have some law and order back in the Empire State. I'm always rooting for New York from afar, from Florida with my zero state income tax. But good luck to you. Thank you so much. Aretha comment already. Appreciate you.
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Saritha Komatireddy
Thank you very much.
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Buck Sexton
Look, yesterday King Charles, Queen Cam, Camilla. Man, I don't know why I can't. That's a weird name, isn't it? I mean then Kamal is so close. Yesterday King Charles and Queen Camilla visited the 911 Memorial and Museum in New York City. They took part in a wreathling ceremony honoring the victims there. The British and Commonwealth people overall lost 67 lives on 9 11, the most of any nation other than our own. Our sponsor Tunnel the Towers was started by the brother of a firefighter who lost on that day, lost his life that day. And many of you know the story of Stephen Siller. He had just finished his shift, was on his way to play golf with his brothers when he got word of a plane hitting the north tower of the World Trade Center. Upon hearing the news, Stephen called his wife Sally and asked her to tell his brothers he would catch up with them later. They never saw him again. That is the story that inspired Frank Siller to start Tunnel to Towers and his older brother Frank Siller. Well, he's been fighting ever since on behalf of so many people out there putting their lives on the line, sometimes losing their lives on behalf of all of us as we come up on the 25th anniversary of that horrific day. Buck and I are going to be doing lots of events with Tunnel to Towers and we're also donors. You can join us in being donors to this great organization by giving $11 a month at t2t.org you can also amplify your impact with a car or land donation. Go to t2t.org that's T the number two miss the show While you're on the go, wind down your day with the Daily Review podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
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Buck Sexton
Welcome back in hour number three. Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Couple little news stories out there. Your S P500 as a result, your 401k surging the S&P500 just has hit an all time record high today, again going through 7200. The Dow close to another record high as well, surging up around 800 points right now, nearly 250,000 and then NASDAQ up as well to near record highs. So your 401ks are doing better than they ever have before. And that is a sign as we come into the summer that things are gonna be going very well. I think economically. We bring in now a guy who has done a flawless job of turning the state of Florida into among the hottest, not just temperature wise, states in the entire country. We'll let you we'll get to a bunch of different questions with you, Governor DeSantis, but let's start with this. The new map. Have you officially signed it? I know the Florida House and Senate have passed it. What is the latest with the map that you have put forward in the wake of also the Supreme Court decision that came down earlier this week. What can you tell us?
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Ron DeSantis
Well, they're going to send it to me probably momentarily and then I'll sign it when, when we're in receipt of it. We're not in receipt of it yet, but yeah, we will do it. And you know, the thing about this is we've been dealing with this redistricting for years. I vetoed the Legislature's map in 22 because they included a racial gerrymander in North Florida. And I was right on that. Constitutionally, the map was obviously much better, but we still had this lingering racial gerrymander in South Florida, had these crab claws. I mean it was kind of ridiculous. And I called this special session many months ago. I announced last year we were going to do it because I saw what the Supreme Court was going to do and I predicted, I said districts like that will not be allowed. And so we're going to address it. We don't want to run an election with an unconstitutional district. And oh, the carping. Oh, what's he think he's doing? All this stuff. And literally the day these guys were dealing with this in the legislature, the Calais decision dropped and vindicated our plan in terms of how we're going to do it. And so the map that we have now is constitutionally sound. It's also very visually appealing. Compare Florida's new map to Virginia, which has all these snake districts and lobster districts and all this stuff. You know, ours are compact districts that represent a growing state and does it very well.
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Clay Travis
Governor Sanders, great to have you here. One of the. As a new Floridian or relatively new now, I feel like an old salty dog. Like, I'm going around, I might as well have an airboat, a pet alligator, you know, the whole thing. Like, I'm, I'm really, I've taken to this place. I love it down here. But I did want to ask you, you've had so much influx into this state and I think this is going to apply. This applies also to places like Texas, Tennessee, other well run red states that are seeing people that have had enough from the Democrat states, mostly New York and California, but other places too. How is the influx doing? People say here, oh, the housing prices are high. And I say to them, yeah, because people want to live here. And they say, oh, well, the insurance rates are out of control. And I say, okay, well, that's something we gotta hand. What are the ways that you're handling the influx? Right. It's, it's a good thing to be popular. Florida's very popular right now. But that does come with some challenges.
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Ron DeSantis
Well, one, I'm not a governor that's begging people to move to the state I've never had. People are doing it because it's a free country and they're trying to go to greener pastures. To the political fallout of this, A lot of our folks were very worried early in my tenure when Florida was a 50, 50 state. You start seeing California license plates showing up in Florida, it's like, well, do we want to import Berkeley here and turn the state blue? Obviously not. But here's what's happened with that. If you take all 49 other states and look individually at who's moved to Florida, since I've been governor, there have been more Republicans than Democrats for all 49 states individually, Vermont, California, you name it. And so it really has been people that are coming largely, I think, because they want to do it. Now look on the housing, housing has gone up everywhere since COVID I think on the high end in Florida, it's gone up astronomical because people are paying huge amounts of money to be able to live here. Governments should not be trying to impact that market. I think when we do that, it doesn't work. I think they're doing a housing bill in the US Senate now, which I think is Elizabeth Warren, will be a disaster. So these things ebb and flow. On the insurance we just announced Citizens are last resort is actually reducing premiums by up to 15% in southern Florida, which we have never seen that happen. And we've had about 15 new companies come in since we did our insurance reforms about a year and a half ago. And you are seeing stability and even reductions there. It's also spilled over into auto insurance. We've had the biggest reductions in auto insurance rates over the last year in the history of the state. And it's not going down in very many states given the environment that we're in. But at the end of the day, there's positives when people come, but there's also challenges. And I know a lot of my folks that I've known a long time, you know, they kind of take pride that people want to be in Florida, but they're also like, you know, can we have a little bit of a break from some of the stuff? I just did a groundbreaking in Ormond beach up by Daytona. What we saw when we saw the. We plowed billions of dollars into accelerating road projects. So I have projects that weren't even slated to start until next Dec. Are now being done, you know, 5, 10, 15 years ahead of schedule. And we have big surplus, big rainy day fund. So we have the capacity to do it and to try to get ahead of it, to try to help with people's quality of life.
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Clay Travis
I gotta ask you also, Governor, about the property tax situation here. There's all kind, as you know, a lot of coverage of this. I know you've talked about it before. I think we even spoke to you about it maybe six months ago. Can you give us an update on where this stands for? Because I also think this could be a model for other states as well. And the more success Florida has being a low tax and well run state, the more of a model it is for other places where people want to be sane and see growth and see things working the way that they should. Where are, where are things right now on the homesteaded properties as it pertains to property tax.
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Ron DeSantis
So the soonest it can be done is the November general election, when Florida voters have to vote to make this change in our constitution by 60%. And so we've said that all along. We're working with folks in the legislature about getting language approved that will go on. I'm not prepared to do it yet because I don't think it's opportune to do it yet. But we will do it. And so it will be done before the summer's out in time to be on the ballot. And the ultimate goal, of course, is your homesteaded property would be exempt from property taxing. Oh, how can you do that? You're not going to have police, you're not going to have any of this. Well, listen to this. 2019, when I became governor, all this revenue is local. None of this goes to the state on property tax in Florida. But local governments in 2019 brought in $32 billion in property tax revenue. Today, that's $60 billion going to local governments. Now, did we not have police or any of this in 2019 when it was 32 billion? And yes, we've had population growth. Yes, we've had inflation. Heck, throw in a few percent a year just for the heck of it, you still would not be at 60 billion. And so what they' is because Florida's property values have gone up, because people are buying homes at higher tax basis, they're raising the valuations and they're getting a windfall. I would rather the windfall go to you as the homeowner. I would rather you be able to actually own your own home. And so I think the. So it's going to get done. And even the people that, like, privately don't want to do anything on this, they know they have to do it, otherwise they're not going to be able to do well in the election. So it'll get done. But I think a couple of the issues that we got to make sure we get right, you know, one is, do you, do you. How quickly can you get to full exemption? Maybe you got to phase it in. Look, that's fine. I mean, I want to get it done. And then if people just decide to up and move here after it passes, should they then have to pay property tax for a time before they can qualify? I mean, if you've been here 20 years, you've paid, someone comes in right after the vote and does it. So we don't want to create bad incentives for that. And then I've already said we will provide out of our surplus some financial support for the locals to get through this transition period. But the homestead revenue is about 30% of property tax revenue statewide. So they'd still be able to tax the Airbnbs. If some rich guy from Columbia buys a mansion in Coconut Grove, you still tax it. The Canadians, the commercial properties, all that stuff. And what will happen is that that revenue is going to continue to grow like it's grown anyways. So you're basically limiting local government's ability to expand, which I think that's something that we should want to do, even apart from the tax. Just as people that believe in limited government, I think it's going to be very popular. But I think the entrenched interests are going to hate it. And I think they're going to do everything they can do to fight it. And so when the left.
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Clay Travis
Who hates it, sorry, but who hates it? When you're talking about the entrenched, who's opposing this really? I'm just curious.
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Ron DeSantis
Teacher unions, local politicians, local bureaucrats. I mean, honestly, even group business groups, I think, because they like the predictability of what they have now. Politicians in both parties, even to a certain extent. California actually did good property tax reform in 1978. It was Prop 13. It was a big tax revolt and all the stakeholders were against it. The people passed it overwhelmingly. So just be prepared when this gets approved, be on the ballot later in the summer. You are going to hear people say that we're no longer going to have police, we're no longer going to have schools. That is what they are going to say. And then all you got to say is, well, wait a minute, why did we go from 32 billion to 60 billion in seven years? Do we have twice as many police and schools and all this other stuff? Of course we don't. They're growing government and they're using that money as a windfall.
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Buck Sexton
You've been one of the best, most successful governors anytime anywhere. Gavin Newsom's been one of the worst anytime, anywhere. I know. I believe the father in law moved of Gavin Newsom moved to Florida, if I'm not mistaken. There's a part of you want to really get to run in some way against Gavin Newsom. We know you smoked him in that debate on Sean Hannity show, but it feels like to me you guys both represent very well the Republican versus the Democrat perspective. He's wrong on everything. I think you're pretty much right on Everything. Would you like to run against him? Would you like for the nation to have an opportunity to hear both those arguments?
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Ron DeSantis
So it's funny about his father in law, because I didn't know his father in law until this is a few years ago. I'm doing a dinner down in southwest Florida. You know, people are going around the table. There's probably like 25 people. Oh, you know, I'm so and so, thanks, governor, for this. And I knew some of the people, I didn't know of them. Well, it gets around the table. And this nice gentleman says, you know, Governor, just want to let you know, we moved from California. My wife and I, we love Florida. What you're doing. We couldn't take it in California anymore. And we're so glad to be here. Best decision, right? Which was nice to hear, but I mean, honestly, I've heard that before. And then he paused and then he looked up and he said, oh, and by the way, I'm Gavin Newsom's father in law. And the whole place just erupted. Everyone just starts laughing. And it's like, yeah, I mean, I'm at a fundraising dinner for my reelection and I've got the governor of California's father in law, you know, donating money and being happy to be there. So, look, I think that the issue between Florida and California is emblematic of a debate. You know, we're probably going to have to have in a little bit more sharp way as we go forward, because the left, they view California as the ideal. We don't think California screwed up. They aim to be able to get to California. So they want to turn Virginia into California. They want to turn Michigan into California. They want to go in that direction. So California is really five or 10 years ahead of where the national Democratic Party is. And I think Florida represents, you know, there were so many years where we had people, conservative voters were like, you know, don't squish out, don't. We're sick of the establishment. Be strong, do all this. And there was a establishment say, you can't do that, because if you do that, we can't win. And the voters don't like it. Well, I came in and basically in a very close election, and I said, you know what? I'm bold. I'm going to do it bold colors, not pale pastels. We're going to lead on all these issues. And obviously Covid and some of these things gave us an opportunity to lead. But what we've proved is the thesis that conservatives have had that when you are bold, In a conservative direction, you will not only produce good policy, we've produced the best, but you will have big political results. And I didn't do it for that reason. But think about us having 300,000 more registered Democrats in 2018, and now we have 1.5 million more Republicans. And so I do think we have a model that's shown that it can work nationwide. Florida is a microcosm of the nation. I mean, we are not a monolithic state. You go to the Panhandle, you know, similar to Alabama and Louisiana, Mississippi, you go to Miami, more similar to Latin America. You go to Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale. It's like New York South. You go to Southwest Florida, it's the Midwest transported down there. You go to central Florida. It's a mix of everything. And so we were able to do that with really diverse demographics and do it in a way that I think was more significant than anyone thought possible.
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Buck Sexton
Last question for you. I saw you at the White House. You're working on nil, which is fundamentally broken in college sports. But also there's been reports that you might be involved in the Trump administration. Given that you are term limited out, you've been governor for eight years. What do you think the future holds in college sports and also for you?
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Ron DeSantis
Well, one, anytime I mention in reports, just understand that's gossip. I've never been approached to do anything, and I've never asked to do anything because I've got a lot on my plate. So I would just tell you, take that with a grain of salt on the college sports, I'm actually very optimistic. You go back six months ago, we had no momentum to do anything. There was no leadership. And I talked with President Trump about this at the end of last year, and he's like, I want to tackle it. He's like, will you help get some guys together? So I brought Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, Condi Rice, a bunch of these people. Randy Levine from the Yankees has brought a bunch of great people together. We did that big event at the White House, which really focused people's attention on it. And I will tell you this, I don't want to get ahead of where Congress is going, but I will tell you, for the first time, we actually have momentum in the US Senate. These senators are working on all the key issues, and you guys know the issues. You probably need an antitrust exemption to make sure all this can stick and not have endless lawsuits. You got to have an eligibility framework. People shouldn't be playing until they're 27. You need to have a transfer portal limitations and you need to have nil be true nil. If someone wants to endorse you or something, fine. But not have these university collectives where it's like, oh, coach, I just threw for 300 yards. Give me another million dollars. Okay, fine, I'm going to leave. That's unsustainable and it's hurting all these other sports. So those are kind of the key issues. And I know there's a bunch of others, but if they just provided a framework to be able to get that done, you will see a massive improvement. And I do think there's been positive momentum and I do think it's possible that you get legislation before the summer is over.
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Buck Sexton
Good stuff as always, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. We appreciate the time. Keep killing it.
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Ron DeSantis
Take care. Bye bye.
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Buck Sexton
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