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Clay Travis
Welcome in everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show. Congratulations to the University of Indiana Hoosiers on their glorious victory last night. I was there with Clay watching the national championship game. Our president, Mr. Trump, President Trump was there and it was, it was quite a scene. We'll give you some of the highlights from it. And it was amazing to watch Indiana turn a home game for Miami into a home game for Indiana because that is what that stadium felt like. It was a sea of red. Very polite. I said Indiana fans are all very nice, very like smiley. And you know, they turned around. I don't think they realize I'm a Miami native. So technically I'm supposed to be all about Miami. But you all saw that game, I'm sure last night. It was actually very good game. I had Mr. Clay here explaining to me the various players and what was going on. So we had a great time with that. It is the beginning of year two of the Trump administration because it is the one year anniversary of the inauguration. So year one in the books. Some great, some great wins on the board, I think already, which we'll be discussing a bit, and then some other things that are still certainly major challenges to look at to deal with. And we have Clay today, one of those, I think that we could circle and dive into straight away.
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Clay Travis
Yes. Who would have thought, who would have thought that this place that generally doesn't get much in the way of press or thought or anyone talking about it, it's quite large and quite sparsely inhabited. Who would have thought that this would become the center of an international imbroglio?
Buck Sexton
Well said.
Clay Travis
I love that. Thank you. Thank you. It is definitely causing a hullabaloo. You have various heads of state who are getting quite huffy and the Wall Street Journal here writing that Trump doubles down on Greenland ahead of Davos arrival. He is making it. He is making it a thing that does not just go away. I do believe at some point we might have to do a show from Greenland and go check out the Greenlanders ourself. But we'll put a pin in that for now here. If you want to know how Trump feels about the whole situation, here it is. This is. Cut to talking about why does this Belong to the people that it has belonged to play to.
Buck Sexton
What do you plan to say to.
Clay Travis
European leaders in Dallas when they push.
Buck Sexton
Back on your Greenland plan?
Clay Travis
Well, I don't think they're going to push back too much. Look, we have to have it. They have to have this done. They can't protect it. Denmark, they're wonderful people and I know the leaders are very good people, but they don't even go there. And you know, because the boat went there 500 years ago and then left, that doesn't give you title to property. So we'll be talking about it with the various people. Clay, he is not backing off this at all. In fact, he's making it a front.
Buck Sexton
And center issue at Davos, the prediction markets, which are becoming more and more of a narrative defining prospect in pretty much all facets of life. This morning, Buck, I was looking 47% chance that Trump takes control of some part of the country of Greenland. Now, again, that's the way that this is phrased. At some point in 2026, basically 50, 50 when this all started, do you remember when we started talking about this and everybody sort of treated it as sort of a outlandish joke that was not actually in any way likely to occur. Now we have moved into the could this happen phase. And this is a lot of times what Trump does, right? He throws something out there that people think is outrageous, that they think is outlandish, that they think there is no way it could ever happen. And then he just stays maniacally fixated on, remains in his purview, and he keeps advancing closer and closer to it. And I know he would probably argue this is a part of the art of the deal, because if you start with aggressive posturing that seems highly unlikely, then at some point a middle ground that would have seemed unlikely starts to feel like a compromise position, if that makes sense. And so I, I don't know exactly how this is going to shake out for all the reading that I've done. Buck, the treaty that we have in place with Greenland right now, which was primarily enforced and utilized during World War II, is actually quite expansive in terms of the rights that it would give to the United States in terms of military bases, access to the land. I think what Trump really wants, though, is complete and total control because he wants the long running value of the minerals. I think he's looking at Alaska as the precept when it was initially ridiculed and now ends up looking like a brilliant decision.
Clay Travis
One of the greatest deals of all time. I mean, back in 1867, Louisiana Purchase, probably the greatest land deal in all history. I think that's fair to say.
Buck Sexton
Yes.
Clay Travis
Seward's Icebox, which is what they called. Or Seward's Folly. Called it both. Yeah, I knew, I knew he was gonna.
Buck Sexton
It was close enough to the Civil War that I'm on top of.
Clay Travis
I was gonna say Civil War. Clay over here is gonna, not gonna let that one slide. But that was also one of the best land deals ever made. And this is, this is I think a pretty straightforward process because here's the problem that the Danes have with all this. By the way, they used to call it Thule Air Base in Greenland. That's the US Space base that's there. I'm sorry, now it's Pituffic. Never heard of it before. Space base. Pettific Space Base. Formerly Thule Air Base. So it was, I guess it was an air force base and now it is a space force base. But so we do have a military presence there. You've got, you know, space surveillance missions for norad, stuff like that. So you've got US Air Force, Space force, civilian contractors, a couple of hundred troops there. So on a landmass that size, couple hundred troops is tiny, tiny situation. He wants sovereignty, to your point, he wants the ability to do whatever America thinks is in its interest there. When it comes to defense, when it comes to minerals, it comes to, you know, there's some people who argue at some point glaciers and access to that fresh water could become more interesting and important. I think that's quite a ways in the future. But I'm just saying these are the things that are under consideration and he's pushing this. The Europeans did something that I thought was silly. And Trump was asked about this last night. Remember he was at the game and he as he does, spoke to, spoke to members of the press yesterday. Here he is. This is Cut three because NATO sent token forces to Greenland as some kind of. Yeah, it's ours. Back off. Like a brush back pitch. But it did not have the intended effect. Play three is important to you.
Buck Sexton
Why are you upset about NATO allies thinking that, you know, more seriously Greenland.
Clay Travis
By holding military exercises? Well, that wasn't a military. They sent a few people and they say they sent them not for me, but between guard against Russia. But you know, NATO's been warning Denmark for about 20 years now. Longer than that, 25 years they've been warning Denmark about the Russian threat. And it's not only Russia, it's also China. So we'll see what happens. But let's put it this way, it's going to be a very interesting Davos. A very interesting Davos. By the way, I've never heard that phrase before. I've certainly never heard it from Trump Clay. He's making this the front and center issue for this, this conference going on in Switzerland this week of, of international who's who and what's what.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. And look, I don't know if you saw this, but I know we have the audio because I was just checking to make sure. Gavin Newsom is at Davos right now. And here is Gavin Newsom. I'll play this for a sec. But first, Buck, did you see Emmanuel McCrone address Davos wearing sunglasses?
Clay Travis
This is like the Bono thing now. Bono has some eye condition, they say.
Buck Sexton
So he has to wear red sunglasses all the time.
Clay Travis
All the time. Is that what. Is that what this guy's gonna say? Sunglasses indoors? You need an explanation?
Buck Sexton
I did McCrone's wife slap him again? Remember we saw when he was about to get off the. The plane and she grabbed him in the face and they were like, oh, we were just joking. Haha.
Clay Travis
Maybe McCrone's wife is stronger than people think.
Buck Sexton
Oh yeah, maybe. So here is. Gavin Newsom might have quite the right hook. Gavin Newsom saying a. He's calling out world leaders. California's governor has traveled to Davos. Cut 19. This was a little bit earlier today.
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Clay Travis
It's time to stand tall and firm, have a backbone. I've seen this in the United States, the Supine Congress playing both sides. You know, say one thing on a text or tweet another publicly.
Buck Sexton
Should you have principles.
Clay Travis
It's time to stand tall, strong. Does that mean we're supposed to stand united? You make that determination. I don't make that determination. When you say standing collective, what do you mean? Just. I can't take this complicity.
Buck Sexton
People rolling over.
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Clay Travis
Of knee pads for all the world leaders. I mean, handing out crowns and handing. I mean, this is pathetic. Nobel Prizes, they are being given away. I mean, it's just pathetic. And I hope people understand how pathetic they look. There's your Democrat 2028 nominee. I. Are there already bets being placed on this one? Because I feel very confident.
Buck Sexton
Democrat side, when I saw it. First of all, Gavin Newsom feels like he's playing evil Keanu Reeves. When I hear him talk now, it just sounds like he's an actor pretending with that voice. Maybe he's got a little bit more of a cold than normal. I guarantee you Buck that. Gavin Newsom has been furious that Tim Walls and Jacob Fry in Minneapolis have managed to push themselves into the chief opposition to Donald Trump. And they have knocked him off the newspaper front pages outside of the opens of television shows. And I think he made a calculated decision, by the way, saying world leaders are in knee pads. It's a visual that even for evil Keanu coming off the slopes, where, by.
Clay Travis
The way, he's a triple black diamond guy.
Buck Sexton
Even for Gavin Newsom, that's a pretty aggressive take. And I will say there's a lot of public condemnation from Donald Trump, from European leaders, and they say all sorts of things, but he's not wrong about when they actually see him face to face. There's never any opposition that is brought to bear direct, if that makes any sense. So I'm curious if that might change at all at Davos, whether we're going to get any fireworks starting tomorrow.
Clay Travis
But it's apparently pronounced Tuli Air Force Base, which I didn't know. But some of these. Some of these pronunciations, because they're localized, can be very tough. Like in Turkish, it's Ingerlik, not Insirlik.
Buck Sexton
So, you know, I have no hope to pronounce any of these words. I'm not even gonna.
Clay Travis
Yeah, that's the big Turkish air base we got going on. So, anyway, yeah, I'm. I gre. I guess they speak Greenlandish or something, because the native. I'm not talking about. Obviously, there's people there that speak English and they speak Danish. But I think that they must have a native. The real. The people of Greenland, if you're talking about the overall, like, population there, are essentially, like, what we would think of as Eskimos.
Buck Sexton
Yes.
Clay Travis
And I know that the Eskimos one. And there's Inuit and there's all these other. And our Alaska affiliates and our listeners. You guys know all this stuff. I don't, but they're. That's what they are. They're like a sort of native peoples, mostly. So this also raises the question, though, of if they want to go. Who's to say? No, this is really the fundamental question that I think Trump raises here, which is, look, I don't think Trump is. He's posturing a little bit. We're not sending in a Marine Expeditionary Force to, like, seize Nook, which is the capital city. Ok? We're not. Yes, and maybe I'm pronouncing that one wrong, too. I'M working on my Greenlandish, but we're not going to do that. But we are going to make a deal or we're going to negotiate a deal. That's what Trump is saying. There's only 50,000 people here. This isn't that hard. Yeah, 50,000 people. This is like a, this is a small mayor's race kind of election in America. This is not some big challenge in terms of if these people, Clay, if they want sovereign, you know, if they want to take their sovereignty and put it into America's hands at some kind of an agreement, who is Europe to say no?
Buck Sexton
They can't. And I mean, I think that's where this negotiation is going to go. There is an opportunity potentially for each of those natives of Greenland to be paid just straightforwardly in certain dollar figure. I don't know what it is. 200k, 100k US maybe they want gold. And if they vote to allow themselves to be connected to the United States, they become a territory. And look, the territorial law is quite clear. I'm a lawyer still in the US Virgin Islands territory. You've talked about Guam. I didn't know that territorial law would necessarily be that useful. But United States Virgin Islands is the last place that the U.S. purchased with gold, $25 million in gold in 1917. And so there is historical precedent and court law that deals with how territorial law is applied and Greenland would clearly be able to fit within that category.
Clay Travis
Yeah, it's just interesting to me as well because you have these Europeans who are saying Greenland is not for sale. Says a bunch of guys hundreds and hundreds of miles away in a different continent, a different people, a different, you know. Says who? Yeah, I think it's now they could say, oh well, under agreement with the eu. Ok, well, Trump is saying let's amend that agreement. Let's amend that agreement based upon. Well, look, if it's very clear, the green land, the Greenlanders, that much I think I did get right. I was going to say the Greenlandians, I'm sure found out all about what is Minneapolis Minneapolitan. No one, no one from Minneapolis calls himself a Minneapolitan.
Buck Sexton
We got absolutely deluged with people saying that that was a totally made up.
Clay Travis
Oh gosh, oh gosh, Neapolitan. No way.
Buck Sexton
By the way, as we go to break a little bit of breaking news for you guys, Trump is going to join a White House press briefing on the one year anniversary of his inaugur inauguration with Caroline levitt in about 40 minutes from now. So I bet that we will be getting a lot from that and maybe we'll go take it live as well.
Clay Travis
Yeah, the Trumpster, I think, I think that's a very high probability. You're going to be hearing them live here on the show. All right. The California Gold Rush is a rich part of our nation's history. The stories of people going west to seek their fortune. There have been books about this, movies, TV shows. But now that's cool, right? It's not what owning gold is about in 2026. It's not a get rich quick tactic. You're not out there in some stream panning for it yourself. This is a smart financial strategy for diversification, taking a long term view of how to have a store of wealth that can actually grow in value over time. Look, here's some facts, very straightforward. Last year gold's up 60%. You may say, okay, well that's just one year. Over the last 20 years, gold is up 700%. So if you invested 20 years ago, you would be up over 7x in dollar value to that gold. This is why Birch Gold Group wants you to check out gold today. This is about the long term. It's your turn to buy some gold until February 1st. If you're a first time gold buyer. Birch Gold Group is offering a rebate of up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases. I just bought more gold from Birch Gold myself. It is on the way to my home as we speak. Because I'm a believer in gold, I have been for a long time and because I've done so well with that thesis, I'm continuing to as a portion. It's not an all in strategy. As a portion of my portfolio going with some solid gold holdings. Text my name buck to the number 989898 and also this is really cool. Birch Gold can help you roll an existing IRA or 401k into an IRA in gold and you're still eligible for a rebate of up to $10,000. Make right now your first time to buy gold. Take advantage of a rebate of up to $10,000 when you buy by February 1st. Text My Name Buck to 989898 Claim your eligibility today. Again, text Buck to 989898 Support for.
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Welcome in hour number two. Clay Travis Buck Sexton show we are awaiting President Trump and Caroline Levitt on the one year anniversary of Trump 2.0. What has the first year accomplished? What do we think about that? Trump is now in the communication, the sales pitch aspect of his presidency as we move towards what will frankly be the last election. That is in many ways a referendum directly on President Trump's leadership after from 2015 when he came down the escalator for the first time to 2026, the Trump era of effectively 11 years. Now you can say 2028 will be potentially for the Republican candidate if it is JD Vance, if it is Marco Rubio, somewhat of a referendum of Trump himself, but he will not be on the ballot in any way in 2028. So the last real time that Trump is has a referendum on his leadership, on his presidency will be the midterms. And so we are now into the sell the job that you have done stage of Trump 2.0. And I mentioned these stats, but I want to hit you with them right off the top here because I do think that the challenge is making everyone aware of the promises that he has delivered on. And I would say, number one, the most significant accomplishment of President Trump, Buck, is the secure border. And it's so successful that nobody even talks about the border anymore. So for a decade we talked about, hey, we should build a wall. Hey, we should have a secure border. Biden opens the border, everybody comes across. Ten million plus people. Trump gets in. One month later, we have the most secure border in the history of the United States. Uh, the second thing that I would say is probably the most significant of his accomplishments so far is record high stock prices. And you could say, oh, that really only impacts rich people. That's not true. With 401ks, huge percentages of the American public, particular Republican voters, have exposure to the stock market in some form or fashion. So record high stock prices is super important. I would say the third most important thing he has done, buck, 4.3% GDP. At the end of the third quarter, there is a very good chance that we are going to be at 5% plus for the fourth quarter and on into 2026. Inflation in the wake of tariffs did not skyrocket. In fact, it has continued to come down. Four year lows, going all the way back, I believe to March of 2021. 2.6% core inflation, record murder decline. No one is talking about it. One of the biggest murder declines we have ever seen in many different cities out there, particularly the cities that President Trump has surged federal support the most for, I would say sixth most impressive thing. Record fentanyl death decline. That is overdoses, poisonings related to drugs have collapsed. Mortgage rates down 7% and mortgage rates down 1% from over 7% and gas prices are at a four year low. Those are eight things that I think President Trump has accomplished and could sell. Now, there's also a lot of international affairs, the situation with Israel, Gaza. But I'm just focused right now on those eight things. America first, the America agenda, not even getting into Venezuela, not getting into the settlement, the peace process in Gaza, all those things are very consequential. But just in the United States, what is changing in your life? All eight of those things I put Up a poll question asking Buck, what grade would you give? Would you give President TRUMP An 800-282-2882? You can give us a talk back on this. I'm hitting retweet on this right now. So if you want to go vote in the Twitter poll, what grade would you give Donald Trump's first year in office? 47% of you say A, 34% of you say B, 13% of you say C, and 6% of you say D or F. In terms of what the impact is, Buck, I would give him an A. I bet you would give him an A. But I'm curious to hear from people. I just laid out those eight different things that I think are all super consequential and important that are evidence of the success that he has had in year one.
Clay Travis
You know, I just also think there's such a difference in a lot of the conversation among Trump supporters first time around, one year in. And I mean, for people who were as pro Trump as it gets, voted for him, love the guy, love what he's trying to do for the country. There was a lot of frustration over staff, who's he got in place, are they on board?
Buck Sexton
Yeah, that's important.
Clay Travis
There was a lot of, oh, it's not his fault. The staff. You don't hear any of that now. Yes, it's just a totally different. And this is just marking the progress, I'm saying, marking the, the transformation of honestly, the experience level that Trump as commander in chief, as well as the people around him have had. We have very little now. Look, there's always going to be people who are, who don't like, you know, what happened at, you know, pick your department or they think that this could be different, but there isn't. This, you know, hey, it's not Trump's fault. It's the fault of these people or that people that didn't do this thing. We're not wasting any time with that because overall, the agenda is being implemented, is being pursued. You know, you have to give credit to the people that are the main implementors, whether it's at any of these different agencies. It's at State, it's at. Obviously, the funniest thing with Marco Rubio these days is all the memes about how he's got 15 different jobs and, you know, you have a lot of people around him who have stepped up. So the conversation is different. And it's now just how do we keep it going instead of, okay, we gotta have a big change in course here, like does anyone even remember what did Rex Tillerson do his first year as Secretary of State? Nobody knows. Didn't last long, didn't work. Wasn't a good thing. Rubio, you see what he's been up to. And obviously he's a long, long standing Republican fixture now on this in the Senate and on Foreign Relations Committee, et cetera. But these are people who understand what the Trump mission is and are getting it done day in and day out. So I've got to say, it's been a great first year. That doesn't mean there aren't. There's always going to be areas of improvement. There's always going to be some criticism that I think is necessary to help the team get better. But, man, it's just a world of difference. We're playing a lot of clay. We're playing so much defense back in Meet we, you know, the Trump voters playing so much defense back in 2017 into 2018 on the Russia collusion craziness. Yeah, it completely consumed the media news, the media cycle, day after day after day. All a lie. And yes, it's to Trump's credit that he battled through all of that and then all the other stuff they threw at him and got a second term. But it, it unfortunately was, was pretty successful in slowing down and sabotaging the agenda. Term, year one, term one. A lot of Russia collusion garbage.
Buck Sexton
Yeah. I think your point there on staff continuity is hugely important because, yes, there have been conflict, as there always is. People argue for what they believe in, people disagree with them, they go back and forth. Nobody's gotten forced out. No one in the entire first year. Did Trump say, you know what, I made a poor choice here. I'm going to accede to some of the, some of the smoke, some of the fire, some of the attention on these individual picks. Now, that doesn't mean that he's not going to have staff turnover. He certainly is. As you move into year two, as you move into year three, people get burned out. That's natural, no matter who the President is. But you remember this, they really went after Trump on his inability to have a consistent managerial core in the first Trump administration. And they were constantly shifting in and out of people, man. With James Blair, with Stephen Miller, with Susie Wiles, the chief of staff corps has remained very, very consistent. And then you look at the entire Cabinet, everybody, it seems, is in pretty decent shape. As we move into year two. Now, again, people are going to decide, this is too much work. I need a little bit more life work, life balance, that's natural in the White House because it is such an all encompassing job. But in terms of the media being able to browbeat Trump into making changes in his personnel, it hasn't happened. And I actually think if you look at Hegseth, J.D. vance, Marco Rubio and Trump in terms of those four supremely important positions, I'm not sure that we have actually been in a stronger position as a country than having all of those individuals involved right now. So I would give an A. You guys can weigh in 800-282-2882. People are not always going to agree with everything the President did. But I saw the Wall Street Journal, I think it was came out 92% of Trump's voters support his presidency so far. So they've tried to sell this idea of oh, Trump's base is leaving him. Oh Trump voters are unhappy. I don't think that's remotely true.
Clay Travis
I'm going to tell you this, I had to gear up for this, you know, after the because again, we're marking the one year of Trump getting sworn in for the second time one year anniversary today. So the start of year two of term two is today. And I remember after the huge win and just the huge, the enormous relief thinking to myself and how we were going to have to deal with this if it came to it, which is this isn't term one. Like there's no learning on the job. There's no oh, trust him, he'll get it right eventually. This time around had to be prepared to say is not if he wasn't pursuing the agenda on something that was promised or if he was making personnel decisions that were really counterproductive, we were going to have to hold that to account and we will if that happens in the future. But I look at term one and I'm like year one rather. And they're getting it done. They truly are. And we're not mired in defending against the same media nonsense with Russia collusion and then the prosecutions and all this other stuff they've thrown at Trump. Do you see what is cape, what Trump and his team are capable of doing without, like I said, all the artificial sabotage of the media and the Democrat party weaponizing the deep state against him.
Buck Sexton
If I were going to point to one thing that was not handled well, it would be Pam Bondi and Epstein. Like if you gave me a magic wand and you said you can go back and manage and we said that I thought she was getting, I thought.
Clay Travis
She was going to get fired it here I thought they were going to tell her that, you know, enough's enough.
Buck Sexton
And even Susie Wild's chief of staff came out and said, yeah, we really screwed that up. The fact that she said the files were on her desk, the fact that they had those influencers walk in with the binders, I think that's the biggest unforced error of the first year.
Clay Travis
They still have to get those files out, by the way. We haven't forgotten. And, you know, the people say put more pressure on them. We can, but I don't run any of these agencies. Neither does Clay. There needs to be more, more release of. Of that information out there. And I think that that is coming, but it is too slow. But there's that, and then there's these other things that we're talking about, the economy, the border, national security, not being involved in stupid wars. I mean, these are very, very big things that affect all of us. And I think that on those areas, those issues, it has been really strong. By the way, Scott Bessant, who I think has been the. I think has been the out. I think, Clay, you could say that Scott Besant out kicked his coverage or has certainly outperformed expectations for what he'd be able to do. I think, because a lot. Look, I didn't know who he was before Trump made him Treasury Secretary. I don't think many people did. So here he is. I think he's done a very good job here. We got two big issues that he's tackling here. Let's talk first about the tariffs. Here he is saying that he doesn't think. Clay, they're going to strike down the president's signature economic policy. This is 16 hit it. I think it's very unlikely that the Supreme Court is going to strike down a president's signature economic policy. It didn't early on with the aca, also known as Obamacare. They reinforced that recently. And the real. The real problem here is President Trump has used EPA for negotiating leverage for geopolitics in emergency situations. If we look back, the first IEPA tariffs were fentanyl tariffs. So on Mexico, on Canada, on China. And if fentanyl is not a national emergency, I don't know what was.
Buck Sexton
All right, I'm nervous about this one, Buck. I think the Supreme Court is going to strike down some elements of President Trump, and I appreciate the fact that Scott Bessen is making that argument because that is his job and he should be advocating for the president's perspective. So I don't begrudge anybody advocating in that way. I think this is one where the president's going to get a pushback from the Supreme Court and they are going to have they're going to have a really complicated situation here. We keep waiting for the official. I was following Shannon Bream this morning because I thought we might be getting the tariff Supreme Court case. My concern is that they're going to slap him back some on this. We'll see. But I think it could be a major pushback. We'll talk about that. By the way, White House supposed to start this press briefing any minute now. So we are certainly going to follow that. And we will take some of your calls and some of your talkbacks as well. But I want to tell you, are you trying to preserve your family memories to ensure that they are digitized for everyone into the future? Are you the repository of your family's memories? Do you have a ton of pictures? Do you have the old VHS tapes? Do you have the 8 millimeter film reels? Do you have everything? Do you put on the slides and show the kids and say, hey, this was great, Grandma. This was mom and dad when they were little kids. Do you have all those? Have you preserved them forever in digital files? If you haven't, it's a good New Year's resolution. I went to Chattanooga, Tennessee, my mom's hometown, where Legacy Box is based on. I walked through their warehouse, through their factories where they do all this preservation. They do a remarkable job. And trust me on this, just get online and check them out. Legacybox.com Clay 55% off right now as we begin 2026 legacybox.com Clay For 55% off you're gonna get hooked up. You're gonna love it. You're going to be a tremendous fan of preserving your family memories. You don't want to worry about a fire. You don't want to worry about a flood. You don't want to worry about just someone who is holding all these great memories, having them in their attic and forgetting where they were losing them. Share them with your family. Now give the gift of memory with Legacy Box. Legacybox.com clay for 55% off that's legacybox.com clay 55% off want to be in the know when you're on The Go the Team 47 podcast shop highlights from.
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The Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay. TRAVIS BUCK SEXTON SHOW we continue to wait the White House press conference President Trump addressing on the one year anniversary of his swearing in. As we begin the second year of Trump. I saw this morning, I was reading Axios, Buck, and I know there are probably left wingers out there who just had tears running down their cheeks. We still have over a thousand days left of Trump 2.0. So this is, you know, we're 25% done, but we still have 75% of the, of the fund still to come. It doesn't mean that people are not still behaving in a crazy fashion on the View. In fact, they may have gotten crazier. They had. I saw this this morning as I was getting ready for the show, Buck. They had Pam Greer on. Pam Greer was a, a star, Foxy Brown of the so called like sort of black ploitation movies of the 60s and 70s. She was born in 1949. She was on the View talking with Sunny Hostin. This is crazy. Listen to her say that when she was growing up in Columbus, Ohio, lynchings were so common for her that her mom had to tell her not to look at the dead black bodies that had been lynched by white people. This is on the View earlier today. Listen.
Clay Travis
The military wouldn't allow black families to.
Buck Sexton
Live on the base.
Clay Travis
So you had to live in an.
Buck Sexton
Apartment and you couldn't take a bus.
Clay Travis
You couldn't afford a car. You walked, your dads walked to the base.
Buck Sexton
And sometimes we would go from, you.
Clay Travis
Know, tree shade to shade to get.
Buck Sexton
Back to the apartment.
Clay Travis
My brother and I, my mom with bags and my mom would go, don't look, don't look, don't look.
Buck Sexton
And she'd pull us away because there.
Clay Travis
Is someone hanging from a tree and they have a memorial for it now where you can see where people were and left. And it triggers me today.
Buck Sexton
Okay, Buck, according to End Wokeness, great Twitter account to follow out there. The last lynching in Ohio happened in 1911. Pam Greer was born in 1949. So she went on the View. No one pushed back and said that's a totally untrue story. But that lynchings were so common. She said in Columbus, Ohio that she had to not look at the trees as she walked back to her home. I mean, what do you think here? Like how has she convinced herself that this was true? How does Sunny Hostin not push back? I mean, this is scary.
Clay Travis
Honestly, they, everyone on the left will recognize that victim status is something that is very desirable because when you're a victim and you tell a victim narrative about yourself and all of the things in Your life that haven't gone the way that you want them to are somebody else's fault. And you also have a claim about how it is their fault, therefore they should do more for you, or it is their fault, therefore something else should be made to happen for you. And because the left is so. In my opinion, the left is so. I guess everything I say here is my opinion, but you know what I mean, Deeply enmeshed in this ideology, like this faith of victimhood that they have. They don't even recognize absurd exaggeration. Like they're just like, oh, well, that's her, that's her story of victimhood. So like, I have to respect that. You know what? That's her lived experience, even though that wasn't her lived experience. But, you know, the mentality is. However you're going to describe your oppression narrative must be accepted by others because oppression narratives are so important to people who are of the leftist mindset. And I actually believe it's like structurally in the, in the working of the mind, left and right. Political sense is. I think it's much more in the brain than it is than a lot of people think about or a lot of people will get into. Because I just can't imagine approaching the world the way so many of these people do. Whether it's the maniac screaming at ice officers in the streets or this kind of washed up actress saying that she saw, you know, lynchings in the trees by her home. I mean, they're just all used to making stuff up to first the purposes of self pity Clay, that I don't think any of them want to call anyone else out because this is so common. Does that make sense? Yeah, this is like, there's just. This is like in the 90s, everybody's like, oh, look, I've experienced so much racism. You'd hear this from people, particularly people from communities of color, not all of them leftists. I'm talking about people that would make these kinds of claims. And you'd be like, what racism you experienced? Like, well, there was a detective that followed me once in a store. You know, we'd always hear this.
Buck Sexton
Yeah.
Clay Travis
And he'd be like, well, but were you actually followed? And then how do you know he was a detective? And I'd be like, you know, I've actually been like, had people look at me before when I was younger and thought that I might be like, are you sure it was because of your skin color? Are you sure that. The point is everyone's allowed to play this game on the Left. So no one's going to call this out, no matter how absurd it is. Because in this case, by the way, honestly, what do you think Sunny Hostin even has any idea of when the last lynching was in this country or.
Buck Sexton
Even how few there were relative to the overall population? Right. In other words, if you go back and you study that entire era, which was awful and did exist, Right. But this idea that it was so common that people alive today would have any recollection of it at all, you would have to be 100 years old, basically, to have any true recollection of an incident like that. And Pam Grier is nowhere near that age. Again, the last lynching in Ohio happened to 38 years before she was born. Two generations.
Clay Travis
Clay, Clay, if you really want to get people fired up, talk about how most lynchings didn't involve black people at all. Well, if that is historical fact, I just want to be very clear. Most lynchings in this country were not of black Americans. That is a fact. But people, you hear that, people go, oh, they get very upset. This is. It's like saying that there were former slaves in the south who owned slaves themselves. These are other facts. These are facts historically. Go check them out. Go, you know, please fact check me if I'm wrong. But Clay, that's a very uncomfortable reality for some people because the narrative is so powerful.
Buck Sexton
Well, not only that, it's. If you ask any questions at all about it, to your point, if you say, are you sure that was racism? Like, I lived through this. And I was talking about earlier, we were at the Indiana Miami game and just how much patriotism it felt like in that stadium, him, as they sang the national anthem, put Trump on the scoreboard, everybody cheered. But it wasn't very long ago people were taking knees and there were players coming out and saying, oh, I was racially profiled, to your point. And I remember one of the players saying, I was racially profiled at, you know, a Las Vegas casino. I said, that seems kind of unlikely. I mean, if you pointed. If you said to me, hey, what place in America has more cameras per capita than a casino? Because they're trying to catch everybody to make sure you're not cheating at cards, to make sure you're. Whether or not you actually won your. Your, you know, slot machine game, all those things, video comes out. And it wasn't actually true at all.
Clay Travis
Right.
Buck Sexton
As often is the case. And you've talked about with blm, basically dying, because now everybody has a video of the police officers and what we overwhelmingly see they're pretty good.
Clay Travis
Now, now we get into this. So by the numbers, okay, so this is now going to be what qualifies as a lynch. Now this is if you consider a, a posse formed of individuals anywhere engaged in what is considered frontier justice that hung somebody outside of normal judicial procedure. I would, I mean I think that. So now it's. What is, what is your definition of a lynching? The, the numbers are roughly 70, 30 black victims, white victims, as I'm pulling this up here. But now you have to get into well, what's considered a lynching because this is just, this is excluding anything considered frontier justice. Yeah, so now you get into. Well, so but, but then how are you separating out a lynch mob from frontier justice? I guess it's the presence. So basically if there was a judicial procedure that they went around, they're saying that is not. But if you consider non judicial proceedings on the frontier where people were hanged to also be a lynching, then yes, there are more lynchings of individuals who are not black. But even, Even by the NAACP, by the way, these are the NAACP's numbers. Even by the NAACP, NAACP's numbers. Do people know that 30% of their qualification of lynchings were white? You don't. This is not, I mean, how many people, if you still hear this, that lynchings are only a. Now of course it's one of the ugliest things. It's horrible, it's racist, all of that. But we should know what the actual numbers or the actual reality of the, of the history of this was and.
Buck Sexton
We should be thankful that basically no one living today has ever experienced one. Right? By and large. Right. And, and so when you have somebody like Pam Grier, come on, if you point out that that can't be true, then they typically come back with what? Oh, you're racist. Well, you don't know what it's like to live in this experience. And this is where I come back to OB reality and facts have to matter. And so for the view to have this, this story happening and you know this buck, they pre vet all of the answers to questions and know exactly to a large extent what is going to be said. So oftentimes they conduct pre interviews for these shows because so many of their hosts are morons that they know what's.
Clay Travis
Going to be said.
Buck Sexton
They still didn't. Correct.
Clay Travis
And just, just to give you a sense of why. So there's a thousand, a thousand documented cases of frontier justice where people were hanged by mobs that they're saying are non lynched. So it's like now we're getting into what the definition of a lynching is. And if you add those numbers in now, it gets a lot closer. So it's getting to be more like 50 50. But the point is merely people should understand the history of this such that they don't think that anybody alive today was witnessing lynchings on their way home.
Buck Sexton
And that it would be so common that your mom would be like, you can't look in the trees. Somebody just has to call out this bs.
Clay Travis
This is. I actually didn't know this. Estimates for Mexican American lynchings in the southwest range from 600 to over 5,000. This is again I'm just going based off of what Grok is saying here for all of these numbers. So this is my point. So I what I gave you by the way, initially those are the end the official NAACP numbers on lynchings which is 70, 30 black and white. And to be clear, these. Now we're really look, this is all 1800s we're talking about here. Mostly 1848. 1848.
Buck Sexton
And a lot of those would be so called posse. Right. Like they would decide somebody has stolen.
Clay Travis
But this is what I'm talking when I said most lynchings are not there. There is a, there's. This is interesting actually historically and I'm seeing this play out now in the way that they do these numbers. So they make a distinction between like a non judicial hanging versus a non judicial hanging where there is some judicial procedure that was supposed to be in place and that is how they get to the 70, 30 number. Okay, well I mean I don't think it really mattered very much to the people being hanged without due process. I'm just going to point that out.
Buck Sexton
And Pam Greer, 1 billion percent is lying here. And the fact that ABC would air that on the View, the fact that they would know she's going to say it and nobody would push back at all. I mean it's crazy. And it goes to what Buck's saying is there is a profound desperate hope to be a victim in left wing culture. Jussie Smollett is just such a primary evidentiary fact of that that they want to have awful things happen. They want to have experienced awful things. They want to have been victims. And Pam Grier is marinating in something that never happened. I wonder what she's even thinking of to claim that that occurred and to be allowed to. To air. All right, we come back. Are we still waiting guys? They still haven't started the White House press conference. I don't think they have still waiting on that. Eventually maybe the third hour we will go take that live whenever it starts there about 45 minutes late or so. There's a company in Michigan, Rapid Radios making modern day walkie talkies that give you another way of communicating with family members, friends and colleagues. For a limited time you can enjoy up to 60% off their most popular radios. We've got this for my 11 year old. Maybe as Snowmageddon the white death approaches my hometown of Nashville. Maybe we'll need to rely on on the five day charge in the event some of these power lines go down, some people start to lose power. If we're getting as many much snow as they possibly are saying we are. Rapid Radio is great for catastrophic issues. Also great for young family members, older family members, easy to use. Pull them right out of the box. They're lots of fun. You can join the community that has over 15,000 5 star reviews across the nation. Go to Rapidradios.com today. Discover exclusive deals that won't last long. Elevate your connection, your experience. Rapid Radio, Rapid Radios communication redefine. That's rapidradios.com 60 off today news you can count on and some laughs too. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. So Trump is. He's freestyling right now. He's just letting it rip up at the podium. We're gonna bring in some of the highlights of it. It because he's weaving for sure, kind of going in and out of different things. And I think he's laying some of the groundwork for his discussions in Davos and specifically over Greenland, which I think is very much going to be. It's going to be a bit of a showdown with some of these European bureaucrat types. For example, Clay here is. This is cut 18. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen. You know of the, of the von der Leyen's.
Buck Sexton
Yes.
Clay Travis
Here she is saying that Greenland is non negotiable. Play 18. Ladies and gentlemen, we consider the people of the United States not just our allies, but our friends. And plunging us into a downward spiral would only aid the very adversaries we are both so committed to keeping out of the strategic landscape. So our response will be unflinching, united and proportional. But beyond this, we have to be strategic about how we approach this issue. And this is why we are working on a package to support Arctic security. First principle, full solidarity with Greenland and the Kingdom of Denmark. The sovereignty and integrity of their territory is. Is non negotiable. Well, I mean, everything has a price.
Buck Sexton
Well, why does Denmark get to have control over Greenland if it's so bad for non Greenlanders to be in control of in any way, their future. Why is Denmark allowed to still have this asset and buck? Let me just. What President Trump is looking towards is I think, a future where, if you saw what Russia did with Ukraine, where they went in and they decided that they were going to take that territory. He's asking a very valid question. There is basically no defense of Greenland at all. What if Russia decides that they want to go in and occupy that country because of its strategic value, which Russia.
Clay Travis
Has done numerous times in the last two decades to countries that are sovereign nations with real militaries? I might.
Buck Sexton
Well, you just came back from Taiwan. I mean, what China has done is slowly try to, especially in the South China Sea, take over shipping lanes, restrict who's allowed to transport and ingress and egress in those areas. Why is it crazy to think that Russia, as these Arctic shipping lanes open up, might not engage in aggressive behavior and start to try to take over? And I think what Trump's looking forward towards is trying to limit that from ever becoming a reality.
Clay Travis
Here is a Danish parliament member, among the most well known because none of us know any of them. Rasmus Jarlov.
Buck Sexton
Oh, I've always been a fan of the Jarlov family.
Clay Travis
I celebrate Rasmus whole catalog. Here he is, cut 17. We will, of course, defend Greenland. If there is an invasion by American troops. It would be a war and we would be fighting against each other. We know that the Americans are stronger than us and you have a much stronger military than ours, but it is our duty to defend our land and our people and the 57,000 Danish citizens that live in Greenland that have made it absolutely, crystal clear that they want to be taken by the United States. We have an obligation to fight for those people, and our forces will do that. But it would be a disaster also for the United States. We're not.
Buck Sexton
There's not going to be a war.
Clay Travis
Like, what is this? You know, this is reckless stuff. No one's shooting it. We love Danes. Danes are great people. And Greenlanders, we don't really know them very well, or at least I don't. Have you ever met someone from Greenland?
Buck Sexton
I don't think so. I mean, there's not very many of them.
Clay Travis
We have Greenland listeners right now, but they're on the. They're on the Space Force base.
Buck Sexton
Well, look, here is what's going to happen. We're. If we are going to acquire Greenland, it is going to require us to make cash payments to people who live in Greenland, and they're going to vote to be territorially connected to the United States instead of Denmark.
Clay Travis
You can be rich and American or you can be cold and Danish.
Buck Sexton
Yes, that's a good analogy also. So Denmark is spending, based on my reading, around a billion dollars a year. Because as we started, I think this week or last week, maybe it was, we were talking about this. The primary economic value right now of Greenland is shrimp. Now, I'm a big fan of shrimp. I bet a lot of you out there like to eat shrimp. It's not exactly the, the greatest foundation for economic viability in the 21st century to say, hey, what is your country known for? Well, we, we, we, we go out and we harvest a lot of shrimp from the sea. And so it's all these mineral rights going forward. Again, I, I just, I don't think Trump is getting enough credit. The one thing the guy knows is land value development. He is looking at this and he's thinking, not for the next five years, he's thinking for the next 25next hundred years. This is a decision that makes rational sense to him.
Clay Travis
Well, why also you think of something like, like, like Greenland or, or, you know, the Falklands, which they did fight a war over with Argentina a while ago back in, what, the early 80s between the Brits and the argent Argentinians. Margaret, Margaret Thatcher was not messing around. She also had a bit of a find out, you know, mess around and find out foreign policy approach. But these are places that are self governed but have some connection to another country for their defense. Like, we have to pretend like this is an integral part of this, this nation's sovereignty. Again, I would not advocate, I would not support Trump just taking this stuff by force. There has to be consent of the people that would be governed. There has to be an agreement. There has to be negotiation for this. But it's like I said, I mean, you're, we got, we got a man here who is really the legal Eagle of the U.S. virgin Islands.
Buck Sexton
There's not very many of us that are actual lawyers licensed in United States.
Clay Travis
You know, one day one of you is going to be on cruise and something's going to go awry. You know, you're going to have some problem and you're going to be calling Mr. Clay Travis here on the radio show, asking him for advice because he knows his way around the legal system in the US Virgin Islands. But if, if Russia, because they wanted a warm place for their billionaires, for the oligarchs, well, Russia's a bad idea because we don't, we Got all these problems with Russia. But I'm just. If some foreign country said, you know what we're going to give you, I don't know, a trillion dollars for the US Virgin Islands and we'll provide all defense and whatever. I think we should hear them out. Depends on what the who the country is. Russia is a bad example because strategically that's a problem for us. But if the uk, if the UK for some reason they're on their asses financially, they couldn't do this. But if they offered us a trillion dollars to take the rest of the.
Buck Sexton
Virgin Islands, yeah, we're going to merge.
Clay Travis
I'm not going to lose any sleep over that. That's going to be okay for me.
Buck Sexton
The BVI and the usvi. But I think what's more likely to happen in that situation and the USVI is actually a good analogy for Greenland. There's around 95,000 people, ish, a little bit less than 100 in St. Croix, St. Thomas and St. John. Okay. I was a citizen of the United States of Virgin Islands. We are a territory. That means we can't vote for President, but we are subject to U.S. jurisdiction. There's 57,000 people in Greenland. The last asset we bought, 1917 U.S. virgin Islands. Now we bought all three of these islands from Denmark in 1917 for $25 million in cash. Why is that not an analogistic example of what could happen with Greenland? And by the way, the reason we wanted the US Virgin Islands to my understanding is to have a basically shipping depot for transit purposes as it pertained to. To assets, strategic assets in Latin America and also then for going across to to Europe for shipping lanes, everything else. So I am a territorial lawyer in the U.S. virgin Islands Islands. Why would it not make sense to have Greenland under the exact same auspices and I believe what American Samoa. We've talked about all the territories that are uniquely the insular cases. For those of you who really want to dive into the legal Proceedings of the U.S. virgin Islands back in the day, there's an entire Supreme Court precedent surrounding these territories which are not states, which are not allowed to vote for President of the United States, for instance, that are still subject to American jurisdiction. So you have some form of independence, but you're under the fabric of the United States protection. Why would that not make sense for Greenland? And again, I come back to the way this would work is we would pay every Greenlander a certain amount of money and they would decide that they no longer want to be affiliated with Denmark. And that seems eminently rational to me, they would have better life, they would have better economic situation. And we're going to hear that in great detail. I think starting tomorrow when President Trump, I don't think the timing on this is an accident knowing that he's going to go to Davos and be speaking to the entirety of the world. All right, when we come back, we will take some of your talk back. We will close up shop on the Tuesday edition of the program as President Trump continues to talk in front of the media here on the one year anniversary of Trump, Trump 2.0 and I want to tell you going into this weekend, AFC Championship game, NFC championship game, Buck and I are in Miami. We went last night to watch Indiana and Miami play a stellar. By the way, those of you who.
Clay Travis
Are mad at me, if you go with my football analysis, you get what you get.
Buck Sexton
Okay.
Clay Travis
You know, I was wrong on Miami, but it was close. If that one guy had caught the ball instead of the other guy at.
Buck Sexton
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On this special crossover episode, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton join "Verdict with Ted Cruz" to break down the most significant news of the day from a conservative perspective. The episode primarily centers on former President Trump's controversial push regarding Greenland’s status, the first anniversary of his second inauguration, accomplishments and challenges in the current term, international affairs, and a discussion on contemporary issues of victimhood in American discourse.
Why Is Greenland in the News?
Trump’s Approach Explained
“He throws something out there that people think is outrageous … then he just stays maniacally fixated on it … and keeps advancing closer and closer.” — Clay Travis (06:09)
Legal and Military Realities
Europe Responds
"If they vote to allow themselves to be connected to the United States, they become a territory … there is historical precedent and court law that deals with how territorial law is applied and Greenland would clearly be able to fit within that category." — Buck Sexton (15:25)
“The last place that the US purchased with gold: $25 million in 1917 for the Virgin Islands.” — Clay Travis (16:40)
“If these people want to take their sovereignty and put it into America’s hands at some kind of agreement, who is Europe to say no?” — Buck Sexton (15:02)
Timestamps:
Summary of Trump's First Year (22:09–32:40):
Buck and Clay list key Trump administration accomplishments:
Quote:
“No one is talking about the [border] anymore...one month later, we have the most secure border in the history of the United States.” — Clay Travis (22:50)
Improved Team and Staff Continuity
“There isn’t this, ‘hey, it's not Trump’s fault, it’s the fault of these people or that people.’ We’re not wasting any time with that because overall, the agenda is being implemented.” — Buck Sexton (26:54)
Remaining Criticisms
“The fact that they had those influencers walk in with the binders—I think that’s the biggest unforced error of the first year.” — Clay Travis (32:51)
Timestamps:
Pam Grier’s Story on ‘The View’
Left-Wing Victimhood Culture
“There's a profound, desperate hope to be a victim in left-wing culture … they want to have been victims. And Pam Grier is marinating in something that never happened.” — Clay Travis (49:14)
Historical Reality vs. Narrative
Timestamps:
Trump’s Messaging and the European Response at Davos
Comparison to Other US Territories
Citing their own experience (Clay as a licensed lawyer in the US Virgin Islands), they propose Greenland could smoothly transition to US territorial status by vote and cash payment, after which its population would enjoy US economic and defense protection.
Caution that military action is off the table—any process must be peaceful and consensual.
Quote:
“If we’re going to acquire Greenland, it’s going to require us to make cash payments to the people who live in Greenland, and they’re going to vote to be territorially connected to the United States instead of Denmark.” — Buck Sexton (57:46)
Timestamps:
“He just stays maniacally fixated on [an idea] and keeps advancing closer and closer to it...” — Clay Travis (06:05)
“They don’t even go there. Because the boat went there 500 years ago and then left, that doesn’t give you title to property.” — Donald Trump (played clip, 05:32)
“No one in the entire first year did Trump say, ‘I made a poor choice’; the chief of staff core has remained very, very consistent.” — Buck Sexton (29:25)
“[On victimhood] The mentality is: however you’re going to describe your oppression narrative must be accepted by others because oppression narratives are so important to people who are of the leftist mindset.” — Clay Travis (40:09)
“You can be rich and American, or you can be cold and Danish.” — Clay Travis (58:03, tongue-in-cheek)
“Why would it not make sense to have Greenland under the exact same auspices? ... We would pay every Greenlander a certain amount of money, and they would decide that they no longer want to be affiliated with Denmark.” — Clay Travis (61:01)
| Segment | Topic | Start Time | Notable Quote/Summary | |----------------|----------------------------------|------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 1 | Greenland & Davos | 04:22 | Trump’s negotiation style, US motives, European pushback | | 2 | Trump’s Year in Review | 22:09 | Record on border, economy, staff improvements, criticism on transparency | | 3 | Victimhood & Media Narratives | 38:54 | Critiquing false victim narratives, debunking historical inaccuracies | | 4 | Press Conference and Territorial | 53:56 | Trump’s messaging, Denmark/EU opposition, US territorial law analogies |
This bonus “Verdict” crossover weaves together sharp political and international analysis, presidential scorekeeping, and calls for realism in American cultural discourse. Clay and Buck’s tone is assertive and occasionally tongue-in-cheek, poking fun at opponents while laying out the conservative rationale behind Trump’s high-profile moves—particularly on Greenland. For listeners unfamiliar with the most recent cycle of political and international debate, the episode serves as both a topical news review and a primer on the dynamics shaping the Trump 2.0 presidency.