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Carol Markowitz
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Buck Sexton
People ask us all the time how we can save the next generation.
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Clay Travis
We've got our show and the info is an antidote. But we also have a couple books coming out. Clay.
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Buck Sexton
That's right. And you can pre order both of them right now and be book nerds just like us.
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Clay Travis
You'll laugh, you'll nod, and you'll get smarter too.
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Buck Sexton
Mine's called Balls How Trump Young Men and Sports Saved America.
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Clay Travis
And mine is Manufacturing Delusion how the Left Uses Brainwashing, Indoctrination and Propaganda against you.
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Buck Sexton
Both are great reads. One might even say they would make fabulous gifts.
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Clay Travis
Indeed. So do us a solid and pre order yours on Amazon today. Welcome everybody to the Friday Halloween edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay traveling today, perhaps picking up a last minute costume. Take guesses as to what he'll dress up as this year, if he does at all. But he'll be back with us on Monday. So it is just me, AKA the Buckster, leading you on this, on this legendary journey of politics, news, national security, cultural commentary, all the great stuff that we're going to dive into. Let's just give you a sense of where we're going. We have election day on Tuesday coming up. In fact, I just voted. I meant to have the little sticker in my hand. I just voted for the Miami beach mayor. As you know from listening to the show, I'm a Miami beach resident and governance year has been quite good. They have done things that have made the streets cleaner and safer and better. And I am very pleased with a lot of the major decisions that have been made. So I was a vote for Mayor Minor and I am hoping that he is able to continue. But I'm just saying I voted. I know it's an off year election, but that makes it so much easier too. I'm saying this in part to also perhaps poke. I wouldn't say shame, poke, encourage, remind, gently nudge our wonderful Virginia and New Jersey and New York City listeners to make sure where there's early voting, you're voting early. And if you can't get there early, well, at least get there on the big day, right? I. You gotta show up to care if you, if you care enough about what's gonna happen. And I think that certainly in New Jersey, the latest is that Citarelli has made this a dead heat. It is neck and neck with Cheryl there. New Virginia is a little bit, a little bit tougher, tougher sledding a little more challenging, but still, you gotta show up. Jason Mer is looking good for that Attorney General slot. And Winsome Sears, let's hope she can pull off a little bit of an upset there. But she's only gonna do it if our Virginia listeners go out and tell all their friends and tell everyone they know. Make sure you get out there and vote. And then we have talked a lot about New York City. I'll give you some updates on the New York City mayor's race, but it's not looking so good. It's not looking so good. And also some of you have been writing in to say that I sounded like I was from New York suddenly when we interviewed Curtis Sliwa, that I was, I was I code switching back to New Yorker all of a sudden. I mean, I, at least it would be authentic insofar as I am from New York City, born and raised. I didn't notice any difference. I'll have to go back and listen to that. I, I did switch sometimes when I was taught, when I told Clay, but I was switching on purpose to say he better watch out in Benson, you know, he better watch out when he said Fall Rockaway, Sheepshead Bay, Staten island, particularly central Southern Staten island, you know, I wouldn't say because he was talking a little bit rough about Curtis Sliwa and that's Sliwa territory. But, yeah, you've never heard me do a New York accent before. When I worked at the nypd, they used to tell me that I talked funny. So there you go. Because they all had New York accents and I did not. So I can do it, though. I can. I can switch in and out. Now we have that, those races. I'll give you those details. We also have the shutdown continuing. I think Democrats are going to lose, but they're getting into that desperate mode where the end is nigh for them politically and they're going to throw anything at the wall and see what sticks. They're going to pull anything out as they can. And then we've got some more Kamala Harris trying to rehab her political chances, her future in politics, which I do not think is strong and I do not think is. Well, as you know, Clay and I disagree on this one. I think she's going to have to just fade out, but she doesn't want to. I will agree with anyone, including Clay, that Kamala Harris thinks she should have a role in American politics going forward. It's ego driven, though. It's, it's not based in the reality of her chances and the future of the Democrat Party. So, okay, let's first just get a little bit into where we stand on this government shutdown. First of all, I told you this is where things could get really messy pretty, pretty fast. And that's when the air traffic controllers and the pilots are saying, look, it's going to be really rough for those who are trying to get around the country trying to fly. When air traffic controllers say enough is enough and some of them are going to start calling in sick and there's going to be shortages. People will be waiting. And I will agree with you, when you're at the airport and the plane is there and there's not a cloud in the sky and the whole country, the weather is fine and you're told for staffing reasons your flight is maybe delayed two or three hours, your flight is canceled. Perhaps that is a, an enormously frustrating experience. Here is a montage of the pilots and air traffic controllers. This is cut 12 telling Democrats, open up the government, enough is enough. The biggest way to ensure the safety, security and reliability of our national air traffic control system is, is to pass a clean continuing resolution. We are concerned that when our brothers and sisters in TSA and air traffic control are not receiving paychecks, that they're distracted and that they erode on the margin of safety that we rely on to go out and operate our aircraft and do our job safely as well. Every day that they go to work, they have not only the weight of one of those high consequence jobs in the entire world, now they're feeling, how do I pay for my gas? How do I put food on the table? No one should have to work without being paid.
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Narrator/Announcer
Congress owes it to the American people.
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Clay Travis
To get this thing done, get a clean CR done and get the government back open. Everyone knows the Vice President, Congress is that this shutdown needs to end now. It has to happen now. These guys need to convene, say yes to that clean cr, get this thing back on track and again restore that confidence in the American public. As we go in to these very busy holiday season, the White House put that out and I think it's very well done. It's very straightforward. Republicans. I'm not rooting for the Republicans on this one because I'm a Republican. It is the obvious sane choice of the two sides here. The Republicans were trying to keep the government funded and going. Democrats are trying to do the the impossible. It's not the first time that Democrat policies involve squaring a circle, right? It's not the first time that like a man can be a Woman. And it's a woman, but it's also a man at the same time. They do this with some frequency, but in this case, they've shut the government down. They made the choice and they're turning to Republicans saying, why you shut the government down? That is not. That is not okay. They did this. We are all now working through this because of them. But they are taking some very bad advice. Slash direction from Chuck Schumer, from Jeffries, and oh, yes, this is cut 11. Kamala Harris herself play it.
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Kamala Harris
We still have work to do to make America's healthcare system deliver for all the people and not be a function of how much money you have in your back pocket. Right. And Democrats do come from that place of believing that health care should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it. So how do you get there? Well, part of how you get there immediately on this issue of where we are with the shutdown is to hold firm, as they are doing. Part of it has to be to continue to reform the system.
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Clay Travis
They don't reform the system. They have done one thing, and that is make healthcare worse. Make it more expensive, make it more complicated. They have made it worse. That is the only thing you can say about the Democrat head in health care. Every promise that was made about Obamacare has been broken. Everything about this bill, which was a huge fight with Republicans back in the first term of the Obama administration.
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Buck Sexton
Everything.
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Clay Travis
About it was, was either just wrong or a lie. And now they're saying, well, if we can't continue subsidies. The subsidies were put in place during COVID so now we have to continue at that level. There are all these ways. What they're really doing is hiding a massive wealth redistribution scheme and welfare state under the rubric of health care. Trust me, they're not trying to make your health care cheaper. Trust me, they aren't trying to do what is. What would be needed to make it easier for you to see a doctor. That's not. That's not what they want to make it so that states like California and New York will continue treating illegals. 30% of ER visits in New York City, illegal aliens. So we're essentially now the soup kitchen in the sick ward for the whole world. Seven billion people and counting. You show up here, you get all this free stuff. And by the way, the people who are actually here who have to work, create the productivity to create the wealth that is then pillaged by these Democrats in your name, of course, but for their own purposes, yeah, they don't Want to make that easier for you. They don't respect that. In fact, if you don't pay them what they demand, and it's never enough, if you don't give them more of what you work to create, they'll use the resources of the state to throw you in prison. But the illegals, the people who are scamming the system, the people who are entirely reliant on the system, they are the primary constituency of the Democrat party, which is a party of. Of takers using government force. That is the whole point. That is the whole premise. Everything else to say about health care is a lie. Look at your premiums. It's all gotten more expensive. It's all gotten worse. Yeah, look, John Fetterman, not sure how much longer he's even going to be a Democrat, he's out there saying that. I mean, this is just appalling what Democrats are doing. And he said it in a Fetterman way. This is cut 13. Listen to his take on the government shutdown for a Democrat. You know, we're not allowed to just open this up. I mean, then our party has bigger problems than I thought we might have already. It's like, that's not controversial. Pay everybody. And you have our workers here borrowed over a third of a billion dollars to pay their own bills. It's a failure. And like I said to all of the viewers, I'm apologizing that we can't even get our together and just open up our government. Democrats are the ones Fetterman's voter. To keep it open, or to open it, rather. Democrats are the ones who have shut it down. They have decided that this is the way it's going to go. And then they turn around and say, why is it happening like this? So I think we're going to see eventually a Democrat cave on this issue. Unless Republicans manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, that is always possible for Republicans. There is always a chance here. Although I will say I was pretty heartened by Senator Thune, who is not usually the guy you'd think leading the William Wallace style Braveheart charge for freedom. But he did seem pretty agitated over what Democrats are doing here because, remember, they've chosen to do this, but then they're lying about it. Democrats have forced this shutdown by making demands that have nothing to do with specifically funding this government as it is, as it's supposed to be with the CR with a continuing resolution, they want to hold the government's funding hostage, but then they turn around and say it is the Republicans who are shutting down the government. That is a lie. And I do think that a majority of the American people, at least those who are paying attention to this, see that I do believe that the Democrats are losing. And once election day passes. Come on, New Jersey. Can I just. My New Jerseyans, sometimes us New Yorkers, we give you a rough time. We treat you like the cousin that perhaps gets a wedgie when we see you at the holidays. But we love you, New Jersey. We really do. From a New Yorker to my New Jerseyans out there, get out there and vote. You can have a good governor who's going to end the sanctuary state status of New Jersey, who's going to bring down the absurd taxes that you pay. There's so much that will benefit you. Get out there and actually do this. Get out there and vote. And for those who say I already have, okay, well, tell other people. Remind. I'm reminding friends here. I'm in Miami Beach. I got friends who have forgotten that there's a mayor's election happening. You know, I'm like, well, yeah, that's right. It's going on. We live here. And the decisions that have been made have been really of major impact for us who live in this area. So for any of my Miami beach people listening, get out there and vote. I mean, I voted for Minor. I highly recommend you do the same. But unless you want things to turn into mayhem here again, I'll also take a lot of your calls because it's Friday and I want to hear from you. 800-282-2882. Look, this is the kind of thing happening in neighborhoods around the country. Maybe not on Halloween night, but it happens often enough. Someone's home gets broken into, word gets out. When someone puts up a post on the nextdoor app. Suddenly there's heightened awareness. You must find a way to protect yourself and your family. This is why I want to tell you about the protection tools that you want from Sabre. Spelled Sabre. The website is sabradio.com I've got them here at home. Clay's got them. Sabre products have safeguarded hundreds of thousands of people. Sabers, pepper sprays, pepper gels and projectile devices are all proudly made here in the usa. 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Clay Travis
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Kamala Harris
Oh, you smell amazing, James.
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Clay Travis
Oh, thanks mom. I love you too. I never said that. Add gain scent boosters to your laundry. Add joy to your day. Just heard from our man Clay. Stuck in a situation at the Chicago airport because, because of the shutdown. And I am sure you know, whenever you're in a messy airport situation and they're not telling you exactly what it is, that's bad sign, right? Bad enough when they're like, well, we got some weather coming in. Whatever it is, when you're just being told, yeah, we don't know, man, you might have to camp out here. Maybe time to get that sleeping pad and unroll it, you know, maybe time to take your sweatshirt, make it into a pillow and lie on the ground. Don't worry, Chick Fil A will open at some point. You know that that's, that's where things are because of the government shutdown. The air traffic controllers are very annoyed about this situation, as they well should be. But I want to take you on a, on a journey of sorts into what may be the Most self defeating and self pitying book tour of all time. Certainly high on the list. And no, it is not in fact. Karine Jean Pierre. Karine Jean Pierre, I think we all get what's going on with that one, with that situation of the book tour. She's an independent. Now you were the press secretary for Joe Biden. Now you're independent. You've left the Democrat. You've left the Democrat party because they finally couldn't prop up your boss anymore whom you were lying to the American people about. You Kring Jean Pierre, who said that it was a cheap fake when people shared video of the president having cognitive issues, cognitive breakdown. You, Karine Jean Pierre now would've lecture us about how the Democrat party abandoned him. Were they not supposed to? What exactly did she want them to do? She doesn't even know. She doesn't know. Makes no sense. But Kamala Harris, she's not just hoping to cash out on a pretty weak book tour and do the speaking circuit for a bit and then get some gig at msnbc. No, Kamala Harris does think that she should have a leadership role in the Democrat Party and a leadership role for the country. Kamala Harris wants to be, make no mistake, wants to be president of these United States. But she's got a problem. She's Kamala Harris, same person that we saw in this last election. It's not that we didn't know what we were dealing with. It's not that the American people weren't aware of Kamala Harris. It is in fact that she has tremendous deficiencies. And here is Jon Stewart, propagandist of the left. Jon Stewart, as he is talking to Campbell. This is cut four about whether Biden was competent to serve or not. Listen to this exchange, part of the book tour. Play four.
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Kamala Harris
I believe he was fully competent to serve.
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Interviewer
Do you really?
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Kamala Harris
Yeah, I do.
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Interviewer
That surprises me, actually.
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Kamala Harris
No, I do. But there's a distinction to be made between running for president and being president.
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Interviewer
What's the distinction?
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Kamala Harris
Well, being a candidate for President of the United States is about being in a marathon at a sprinter's pace, having tomatoes thrown at you every step you take.
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Interviewer
That sounds lovely.
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Kamala Harris
Yeah, it's more than a notion.
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Interviewer
Get involved in public service, ladies and.
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Kamala Harris
Gentlemen, and to be the seated president, the sitting president, while doing that. It's a lot. It's a lot.
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Interviewer
Yeah, it's. I think it's a hard case to make for people that he didn't have the stamina to run, but he had the stamina to govern. Because I Think most people view the presidency as a marathon run at a sprint with tomatoes being thrown at you in terms of. Of governance.
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Clay Travis
Jon Stewart, way too gentle. He's a propagandist. Way too gentle with Kamala. This is moronic. I mean, this is just insulting to the intelligence of. Everybody's watching. Oh, Joe Biden. It's okay for him to be commander in chief. It's okay for him to be the one who would be responding to a possible attack on the United States, an act of war, making decisions that affect hundreds of millions of Americans and billions of people around the world. That's. He had plenty of. Plenty of gas in the tank for that. But to show up, remember, he's being ferried by Air Force One. I mean, to show up to give some speeches. He took it all the way to June, my friends. So we're to believe that his cognitive ability, his mental faculties weren't strong enough to take the campaign as the nominee from June to November, but they were strong enough for him to be president. President in June and therefore in 2020. 20, 25 as well, because. Right. What. What would be the. The only thing that he wasn't able to do, according to Kamala, who is. Who's an absurd person? Absurd? Jon Stewart. It's a tough case. Yeah, please. It's idiotic, Jon, and you know it. Where is the difference? He's president in June of 24. He's fine to do that. He's going to be fine then to be president in January of 25. But it's the whole campaigning thing in between that he can't handle. That was the part of it that he wasn't up for. And let me remind you, that's an energy issue, not a cognition issue. What we saw at the debate with Joe Biden and Donald Trump was somebody who has some stage or some level of dementia, which means that his brain is not functioning, his decision making is not functioning as it should, which we also know because he had outsourced his presidency to the advisors around him. All of this adds up. But Kamala's out there trying to say, oh, the problem wasn't Joe Biden's ability to think. It was he needed more nap time to get through the campaign. You know, it's just not going to work. We're not all that dumb. We know what they did. We know the big lies they all told. And they're trying to. In some way, they're trying to push away that humiliation, that stink of being so utterly mendacious. But this is what happened? They lied to the American people about it. And one of the big problems they have is the person who should be best positioned to take back leadership for the Democrats, the former vice president, the former nominee, Kamala Harris, is completely tainted by her relationship to the lie about Joe Biden. And then we get to. Well, also, Kamala, why is it that the American people, I mean, you lost every swing state to Trump. People know who you are. You're the vice president. Why weren't you able to do it? Jon Stewart continuing on. Like I said, he's being as friendly and gentle to Kamala as he can be, but he doesn't want to just look like a total clown buffoon himself. Here he is. This is cut six. Why'd you lose Kamala? Here's her explanation. Listen to it.
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Kamala Harris
I do believe one of the biggest factors that was at play in 107 days, we just didn't have enough time. We didn't have enough time or was.
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Interviewer
It too much time? I mean, if you had done the election after 60 days, I think you win. Honestly, there was a, there seemed like a stagnation point. And then if you look at the lines, it doesn't look like what would have changed.
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Kamala Harris
Well, yeah, but there's so many variables that went into the outcome of that race because you can also look at where you start to see an infusion of resources going into mis and disinformation. I talk about, for example, the Elon Musk factor in the book. You can look at that. There were certain inflection points that had an impact on the race. And to your point, it was, as David Plouff said, it was those traditional inflection points and there were others. So I don't want to reduce what we need to do going forward to any one factor around what we could have done better, what I could have done better in those 107 days, what was happening before. I think there are a multitude of factors that all need to be addressed.
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Clay Travis
Misinformation and disinformation. She's really going to go there. She's going to do. She's going to pull that one now. Oh, it's because of the misinformation and the disinformation. That's why she lost and she didn't lose by a little bit. I understand the aggregate vote total, you can say, but that's not the election that's run. It's the electoral College. And she lost every possible swing state entirely to Donald Trump. Everyone. He was indicted four times by these Sham. Deep state loser prosecutors. He survived a bullet through his ear. Another assassination attempt. The entirety of the legacy media, throwing all of their credibility in one giant bullet bonfire in an effort to stop Trump. And she got absolutely crushed by him in this election. And she takes, you'll notice, no accountability for it. Have you heard her say anything like, you know, I made a mistake? I read her book, by the way, which was written for her by other people. Have you heard her say that I made a huge error about anything? No. Did she learn anything from this process? No. It's always someone else's fault. It's always things outside her control. It's sexism or racism or Trumpism or disinformation or misinformation or. What about Kamala? You're just not very good at this. And you were able to ride a wave of DEI in the Democrat party that was willing to push people to the very heights of power based upon elevated superficial characteristics like gender and skin color or ethnicity. And that the American people have decided that we've had enough of that and that we should all. We should just judge people by who they are, man or woman, any race. What are your capabilities? What's your skill set? What do you bring to the table? Bringing diversity to the table is not meaningful to people who care about those other things. This is the big change. And this is the world that Kamala does not want to be operating in, I might add. One in which. One in which you are held accountable and responsible for what you do as a person. Your decisions, your abilities, your work ethic. Kamala wants to whine about how she's a victim. She's. The former vice President of the United States was handed. Handed the Democrat nomination, which a lot of Democrats didn't want to do, and now she complains about it. And everybody else. I read her book. Everybody else makes mistakes. Everybody else did the dumb things. She doesn't say, never mind, I'm sorry. She doesn't say, I'll do better next time in any meaningful way or I'll change. Remember what she said about Biden? Would you change anything about Biden? No, because she just thinks she's supposed to win for showing up. The people in charge are supposed to tell her how great she is and that she now has all this power. And this election with Donald Trump, where he crushed her, is a repudiation of the world that she had been living in before, at least in her own mind and certainly in the state of California, where she just gets to show up and that's enough. She doesn't have to be impressive, she doesn't have to be good. She just has to be there. Well turned out. Not this time. And I don't think it's going to happen next time either. Gold is as valuable as it's ever been. Whether you're keeping track of the scoreboard of this on or not, guess what? It's grown about 50% in value. Gold is a smart long term investment. Look at this over the recent years. In recent decades, gold's long term thesis remains sound. Lot of reasons why if you're thinking about buying gold for the first time, it's an excellent time to do so. Birch Gold Group makes you this offer. Buy gold from them this month and get free silver for every $5,000 from Birch Gold that you buy in advance of Veterans Day. They'll send you a free patriotic silver round that includes the American and Gadsden flags on it. Birch Gold can help you own gold as well by converting an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA in physical gold. Plus they'll send you free silver honoring our veterans on qualifying purchases. And if you're current or former military, birchgold has a special offer for you. They're waiving custodial fees for the first year on investments of any amount. Text my name Buck to 989898 for Birchgold's free info kit and claim your eligibility for free silver with qualifying purchase before the end of the month or before the end of before Veterans Day. Rather text my name Buck do 989898 text Buck to 989898 today.
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Clay Travis
Tootsie Roll it was in fact a song. It is in fact a dance from the 90s back when I used to listen to the music on the radio to the left. Tootsie Roll. That's a great. That's a great tune everybody. I'm just glad that the team pulled this one together for me on the fly because I was sounding like a crazy person talking about the magic Tootsie Roll song that didn't exist. It does exist. Thank you. Thank you for this one. Carol Marco is joins us now. Carol, do you in fact remember that fantastic song about the Tootsie Roll?
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Carol Markowitz
I do not. I don't. I want to. I'm like trying to rack my brain and think about it. I saw the dance. I. None of this is familiar to me at all.
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Clay Travis
Wow. I am on an island here that I was not expecting to be. I thought you were going to tell me that this was a very famous dance in the early 90s, but all right. Well, I thought so. But you know, then again, apparently I'm. No one in the studio in New York even knew it. They thought I was like having like a Biden moment or something. I was just talking nonsense. So turns out there is a Tootsie Roll song. And I gotta say, when that funky beat came on, my moves, my moves and grooves started to get going over here. All right, Carol Markowitz, you like me. We're in a weird position here, Carol. Let's be honest about this, ok? Because we're going to talk about New York City with a lot of native knowledge of New York having both lived there between the two of us for like 60 years. I mean a very long time between the two of us. And yet some of our New York area listeners will point out we now both live in South Florida. So there's that. I just wanted to get, I wanted to get that out there as we express our love for New York. This mom Donnie situation. 30,000 foot view. What do you see happening? Where are you on all this?
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Carol Markowitz
You know, I'm holding out hope that Andrew Cuomo is going to beat him. That's where we are right now. I mean, Andrew Cuomo is why I live in Florida. And so there's some irony to the fact that if I were in New York right now, I would be voting for Andrew Cuomo, crazy as that is. But I think Mamdani runs away with this. I think New York is a very blue city. It's an off year election. Donald Trump is president. All of these factors are going to play into the Democratic candidate winning like as usual. The only difference is this Democratic candidate is really far left. He is a self proclaimed socialist. I would call him a communist. He wants government run grocery stores. He wants government to take over private buildings. I mean, he is really far left. I hope that he loses. Let's start with that. I don't think that's happening though. And then if he wins, I hope that he's unable to implement his policies, which seems likely. I don't think he's going to be able to do many of the things he wants to do. I root for New York to turn it around, but every day they move closer, further away from the great place that it used to be people always say to me, like, well, why did you take so long to leave New York? And I say, it was amazing. It was so great. It was so safe. It was so clean. It was in such good shape during the Bloomberg years that it took Bill de Blasio several years to destroy that. And that's where New York is right now.
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Clay Travis
Now, I most. You know, first and foremost, I think I identify with the neighborhood that I grew up in, and I went to St. David's in Regis, so I identify with the Upper east side. Like, that's my. If I had to pick my home neighborhood in New York, I'm an Upper east side guy at heart. And there was always. I think. I think that was the Upper east side. When was it Joe. Joe Lotto ran back, you know, years ago. I'm trying to remember now. It was Staten island. And the Upper east side were like, two of the only places that were red in that. In that. In that election. So the Upper east side has had a little, Little, little tinge of sanity that's, I think, gotten less and less with time. You are a. You're Park Slope person, right?
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Carol Markowitz
No, no. Buck Sexton. How dare you? I am a South Brooklyn person, and if you look at the map of Brooklyn, it's south. South Brooklyn is like a red enclave. I mean, Donald Trump won South Brooklyn. And it's. You know, I was born in the Soviet Union. I grew up in, like, we called it the Russian community in Brooklyn, even though a lot of us are not Russian. It's. That community is super conservative. And I lived in Park Slope towards the end of my stay.
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Clay Travis
Okay, she throws that in there at the end, like, I'm a crazy person. Oh, I'm sorry. You only most recently were a Park Slope.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah, look, Park Slope is for anybody listening who doesn't know it's a super left area, that it's crazy that we live there at all.
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Clay Travis
Maybe. Would you agree with me? Would you agree? I think if you're trying to pick, I think Upper west side and Park Slope probably two of the bluest of. Of all of the five boroughs. Right? I mean, you're.
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Miranda Devine
I would say even bluer.
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Carol Markowitz
It's even further left. I mean, they're both very Democrat. But when I moved to Park Slope from the Upper west side, actually, what I found was, like, on the Upper west side, if they want to build homeless shelter, all the liberal Upper West Siders, like, no, I don't want a homeless shelter in my block in Park Slope, they wouldn't do that, they would say, look, obviously we need a homeless shelter, but you know, we're just worried about the carbon footprint and like the transportation issues around it. Like they would completely sandbag the conversation and make it something else entirely. So that's the difference, I think, between liberalism and leftism.
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Clay Travis
So this is, I want you to take us into the mentality here a little bit because you lived around this and you know these people and you're still in contact with the, with the ultra deep blue elements of New York City. Yeah, the, the people with like, you know, three to $6 million townhouses in and around the Park Slope area who are going to vote for Mom Donnie, what the heck is wrong with them? Like explain to me what they are thinking.
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Carol Markowitz
Well, they're the same people who had the defund police signs in their windows in 2020 and that's the kind of thing that pushed us out. We couldn't live with that hypocrisy. And these people, yeah, they, they think that they're socialist warriors and they think that when they say eat the rich, they don't mean them somehow, you know. So you have like Billie Eilish, for example, talking yesterday or two days ago about how billionaires shouldn't exist, but she's a multimillionaire. Who does she think like is next after they get rid of the billionaires? Yeah, these people don't think it applies to them. I think that they are, you know, safely and const from the surrounding area and they don't worry about there being no police, for example. They think I'll just get private security if I have to. It's, it's another level of just insanity over there now.
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Clay Travis
Now another part of this, you're Jewish. There are, and you know, we have all these South Florida Jewish friends in common who are all very sane, sound thinkers about all these things. And then I have to sometimes think back to when I lived in New York and there were some right wing Jews who I agreed with on all things political. And then you have the far left Jewish contingent and they're gonna be voting for mom Donnie in substantial numbers. All the polling shows you're going to have people who are Jewish, who are self described Jews in New York who are voting for a guy who says when the NYPD has its boot on your neck, the IDF is lacing up the shoes. Like this is crazy.
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Carol Markowitz
The thing is, okay, so there's two things about that. One, you can say you're Jewish, even if you're totally not Jewish. If you have like One Jewish relative somewhere down the line and it happens to be on your mom's side. You can say you're Jewish. And that's what a lot of these people do. They don't do anything that makes them Jewish. You know, they think that bagel and cream cheese is Jewish. So these people are A, not Jewish, but B, every, every poll that I've seen in the last two weeks has had the number at around 18 to 20%. Which, listen, let me not kid myself here. One out of every five Jews in New York City voting for Mamdani is still high. But look, 20% of Jews voting for the Democrat and 80% not voting for the Democrat is actually a huge shift for the Jewish community. And Donald Trump got somewhere in the 40% of Jewish vote. That has never happened before. I hope that number continues to climb. I hope my neighborhood, not my neighborhood, but my people continue to wake up. Because Russian Jews have been conservatives all along. It's, you know, the American Jews who have been here for 100 plus years, who never had any strife, who don't know what the world is like, those are the people who are on the left and they're breeding themselves out and the ones that aren't are coming over to the right.
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Clay Travis
Speaking of Carol Markowitz, her show is on the Clay and Buck podcast network. Go check out the Carol Markowitz show and also Normally, which she co hosts with Mary Kathryn Ham. Great to listen to over this week. And what are some of the things on the most recent Normally podcast?
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Carol Markowitz
Well, Mary Katherine and I are talking about all the things that are in the news. We cover Tucker and Fuentes, we get into the shutdown. All the news that you're hearing, Mary Katherine and I are on it on Normally. We talked Bill Gates saying that climate change is no longer a big issue. Thanks so much for that, Bill. After destroying so many lives along the way, we cover all that with humor.
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Clay Travis
I can I tell you. You know, I had a friend in New York, an older guy, played tennis with, very, very wealthy guy. And, and you know, he was, I would say a Democrat, but like a reasonable Democrat. And one day we got crossing, you know, on the tennis court. We're like, you know, waiting to switch sides. We're sitting down on the bench and I started talking to him and he asked me about climate change and he was. And I just did my usual. I've been the same since I was like 12, right. So I just launched into my thing. This is 20 years ago. I'm like, it's absurd. We're not all gonna melt. The polar bears aren't drowning. No one actually believes this. No one's getting a deal on Martha's Vineyard real estate because it's all gonna be under. What? Like, this is all garbage. He thought. And he had heard all my other right wing stuff. He thought I was nuts. Like, he actually was like, are you, like, it really unsettled him.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah.
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Clay Travis
To those people who think that way now that one of their, one of the high priests of this total delusion, Bill Gates, is like, yeah, it's actually not that big of a deal. Barack Obama gave a speech at the Coast Guard Academy saying it was the biggest national security threat we faced. Carol, climate change, do we get any apologies from these people for being idiots? Like, how does this go?
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Carol Markowitz
Right? Exactly. We don't get any apologies from these people. They just get to walk back their ridiculous comments and what we're all supposed to take it. I mean, Bill Gates is saying what I think even, you know, everybody's been saying for the last decade plus, even people from the liberal side. I think of Constantine Kissen, for example. He made this point that, you know, stopping poverty is the most important thing, not climate change. And if you're somebody who lives somewhere without indoor plumbing and your kids need to eat, you're not going to care about climate change. And he said he made this point and that's what Bill Gates ended up saying three days ago. It's like, wake up. This is not new. It's crazy. And I had the same experience in New York, people who thought I was reasonable. Whenever we get into climate change, I would say to them, who's your favorite climate scientist? And of course they would have no idea because they don't actually study the climate science. They just say they find whatever the.
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Clay Travis
New York Times says about it, preferred slogan. It was funny to me because it was one of the big differences for me was on other things. Like if I was talking to somebody about guns, I understand, like, guns matter to me, like firearms, the Second Amendment. And for them it's terrifying. But at least we're having a discussion about something that's worth discussing. Like, I want to explain to them why the right to bear arms is so important. And they, they think that it's going to make all the mean, bad crime go away. If the scary AR guns, which no one actually really uses to kill anybody, 99% of the time, it's pistols on climate change. I'm like, I don't even want to. I don't even know what we're talking about here, I don't care at all. Like there's no discussion to be had. And yet for years they're going to totally rewrite the history on this. For years. It's one of the areas, I think, where libs would go the most insane on you at a cocktail party.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah, yeah, that's right. And you know, one of my points about it was always like, if I'm Bill Gates and I really believe in climate change, I can't possibly keep using my private plane. But he does, so then that means he does not believe it. There's no reason in the whole world. It doesn't matter how many people talk to you on the commercial flight, if you really believe you're flying on a private plane causes climate change, then you wouldn't do it. And it's same thing with like Leonardo DiCaprio, Al Gore. All of these people just seem like they don't believe what they're actually saying.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, total frauds. Total frauds. What are your kids for Halloween, Carol?
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Carol Markowitz
The youngest one is going to be a 1920s gangster with me and my husband. He thought he was going to be a 1990s gangster and he started using the west side gang sign. Yeah, we had to tell him that wasn't that kind of gangster. Middle son is going to be some kind of like, I don't even know, camouflage guy. And the 15 year old girl, she's too cool. I don't know what she's going to be, if she's going to be anything.
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Clay Travis
Okay.
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Carol Markowitz
Yeah, well, the kids really, they stop, they stop doing what you want after a certain time. So get all the dressing up in now.
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Clay Travis
Oh, we have my dog dressed up as a Miami Heat, you know, Miami Heat jersey. That's as festive as we get over here. Ginger has a Miami Heat jersey. That's about all.
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Miranda Devine
We love it.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, good times.
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Carol Markowitz
Dressing up.
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Clay Travis
Who? Speed? No, we're not. No, no, he's, he's, yeah, he's a, he's Speed doesn't roll like that, you.
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Buck Sexton
Know what I mean?
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Clay Travis
He's a distinguished fellow already. Check out the Carol Markowitz show this weekend. Carol, give Shy a hug from me and we'll talk to you soon.
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Carol Markowitz
Talk to you soon.
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Miranda Devine
Bye.
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Clay Travis
Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Our friend Miranda Devine joins us now. She's the host of Pod Force One and she just sat down with our phenomenal Vice President, Mr. J.D. vance to talk about a whole range of things. But first, Miranda, Clay is unfortunately stuck in transit. He was at our, our boss and mentor's induction into the Radio hall of Fame in Chicago and I got a pass because I'm on babysitting duty here for my little one. But he had our proxy there and he was celebrating and now he's trying to get home. It is a mess. I think Nashville just said that they basically don't have enough air traffic controllers for the airport to be functioning. Like what's gonna happen?
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Miranda Devine
I mean, it's horrendous. I don't think people have fully grasped how terrible it is. And I have a friend, Newark was shut down last night and I have a friend who we were doing something last night. She had to fly out of Newark to Palm beach for her mother's birthday party and all flights were canceled. She ended up getting a train to New Haven and then getting one of those cheap flights from there finally to Palm Beach. She got there at 9:30 this morning. So it was, you know, just a 12 hour ordeal. And it sounds like Clay's going through the same thing I at Palm beach on Sunday to interview somebody there. It's, I mean, I feel like, I know the airlines have to do it to keep things safe, but when you have TSA as well, it's not just the flight air traffic controllers. I have another friend whose family was coming in from England on the weekend. They ended up having to sit on the plane after that long trip for an hour on the tarmac because the customs hall was full. It took them, ended up taking them three hours to get through customs.
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Clay Travis
Yeah, I bring this up one, because it's just, I think everyone can commiserate with travel nightmare stories, but also this is in the past, something that has actually brought really intense pressure onto government shutdown situations. I mean, is this, do you think this could, could get the Democrats to, to snap out of it sooner than anticipated, or do they have some kind of a game plan they're still running?
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Miranda Devine
Well, it ought to. We've had all the leaders of the airlines have come out and said, you know, without saying, well, it's dangerous. Just saying, this is affecting the economy, this is hurting people. We've got the SNAP benefits ending tomorrow. You know, we have, the unions have come out and they have also pressured the, to end this thing. And they just remain implacable because for them, they, they're, they're just, it's, they're losing everything. They don't have anything really to lose, I guess, because they're so, they've already lost everything. And they feel like chaos and disruption is a good thing because it hurts the government. It stops the Trump administration from being able to continue on with what they're doing, whether it's deporting illegal migrants or fixing the economy or doing any of the things unwinding all the other toxic policies of the Biden administration. It just puts a spoke in their wheels. And it also creates anger among their voters who they can, you know, already have Trump derangement and are willing to believe the worst. They just lie and gaslight and tell them, oh, yeah, it's, you know, Donald Trump's fault. And so when the SNAP money runs out tomorrow and the food stamps run out tomorrow, a lot of grocery stores have put security guards around their stores to try and prevent people from coming and just taking the stuff. It's really setting up a really nasty situation.
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Carol Markowitz
Very volatile.
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Miranda Devine
And ultimately, even though the polls are moving against the Democrats, I feel like things are coming to a head and that Trump eventually will be blamed. He said today when he gave a little gaggle that he, that he's willing to sit down and negotiate with the Democrats, but they have to open up the country first. They have to end the shutdown. And he said normally they would have, but they're now crazy. And I agree with that. I think Chuck Schumer has gone mad. He's so petrified about the insurgent left on his side of the party, especially in New York, where Zoram Mandani is looking like he's going to romp at home. They're all scared. The resident Democrat kind of old guard who stuffed everything up until now. And of course, you're going to have young people, young Democrat voters, who are rightly angry about the mess the Democrats have made of everything. So they're taking things into their own hand. It's like a revolution inside the Democrat Party, but unfortunately, we're all suffering.
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Clay Travis
Miranda, I also wanted to ask you, just because you have excellent sources in this administration, you just sat down with JD Vance for your podcast, Pod Force One. Everyone should go check out that episode, this reporting about strikes inside of Venezuela. What kind of credibility do you put on it? What's your sense of as to how imminent that may be? There's definitely a lot of military resources in the Caribbean now, which is not usually where we think of a major military presence from the US Side.
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Miranda Devine
Yeah, look, I don't have any inside gossip on that. I'm a little cautious and a little concerned because, you know, are we being told the whole truth? You know, is this really just about stopping drugs from coming into the country?
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Narrator/Announcer
Or.
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Miranda Devine
Or is it some sort of soft beginning of a regime change in Venezuela? If that's the case, we should be told about it up front. And, you know, Donald Trump's got a lot on his plate. He's just come back from Asia. I suppose he'll be focusing on this again. But Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, is running that operation along with Pete Hegseth. When they're blowing, you know, boats and submarines out of the water, I mean, that's all great if they're all drug dealers, but what are we doing now? Is it really about stopping the cartels or is there something else? If there's something else, great. You know, I'm all for it if it's surgical and contained, but I think we need to be told a little more than we are now because it does sort of raise a lot of red flags.
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Clay Travis
Now, in your interview with JD One thing that I know you talked about was the very widely watched and discussed Oval office. Zelensky, Trump, J.D. verbal, Melee. Donnybrook, however, wants to say it. What did you learn from talking to JD about that? And how do you think this administration is seeing the Russia, Ukraine issue currently?
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Miranda Devine
Yeah, well, he was sort of at pains to talk about the fact that, that in the past, you know, he said that he, sitting there, he felt that Zelensky had been rude to President Trump. And he felt that, you know, he wanted to make the point that if any world leader comes to the Oval Office, they owe the President of the United States an enormous amount of respect. And he didn't feel that that was happening. But he thinks that the relationship has been reset and that while if you asked him a couple of months ago, did he think that the prospect of peace was possible, he said he would have said, no, they're just going to keep fighting. It's going to be their Vietnam. And now he's a little more optimistic. He thinks that there is a possibility that they can work it through. And, you know, Russia's intransigence, he said, yep. I mean, that. That is certainly the case now. It's really one minute you think you've got one side on. On the right page, the next minute you think you've got the other one. It's messy, it's a to and fro. But he's got faith that President Trump is going to pull it off ultimately.
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Clay Travis
Speaking of Miranda Devine, host of Pod Force One, she just interviewed JD Vance. Go check out her episode of that one wherever you listen to your podcasts. And Miranda, something else that came up. We actually have a cut from your interview. And here is. This is on. It's something that Clay and I see very differently. Let's put that out there, which is UFOs. Here is J.D. when you asked him about this play.
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Miranda Devine
27, Chelsea Gabbard says that she believes there are aliens. Do you believe that?
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J.D. Vance
You know, I don't. It's interesting. I wouldn't say that I do or don't believe it. I mean, I'm a big believer that there are things out there that we can't explain. And so if another person sees an alien, maybe I see an angel or a demon. So I'm a big believer that there are, like, spiritual forces working on the physical world that a lot of us don't see and a lot of us don't understand and a lot of us don't appreciate. But, you know, is it aliens or is it our guardian angel, or is it aliens, or is it a not so guardian force that doesn't care about us or, in fact, actively wishes us harm? I don't know the answer to that question.
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Clay Travis
Interesting, because I had people writing in that. They said, well, what? You should play that for us. But, Miranda, this is a great opportunity. Clay's not here to defend himself. I think that there are no aliens and that this UFO stuff is all overblown nonsense. So you just agree with me, right? What do you think?
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Miranda Devine
No, I don't really. I have an open mind about it. I think my feeling is just that it would be arrogant. It would be arrogant to think that we're the only intelligent life forms in the universe.
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Clay Travis
Oh, you're with Clay on the. Oh, my God. Clay's not even here and she's taking his side. This is so sad.
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Miranda Devine
And look, I grew up reading science fiction avidly, so I love all of that, but I thought it was interesting. And he sort of did an intellectual pivot from the UFOs to the spiritual realm. And I'm totally with him on that. You know, that. That there are. There are things that we cannot explain. Again, it's about humility and not being arrogant. We can't explain certain things, phenomena in the world around us. And so I do believe that there is, you know, whether it's guardian angels or demons or whatever it is, I don't think that we can just assume that everything is just what we see in front of us. And so I thought it was interesting and that it went to the heart of his faith, his Catholic faith. He's a convert, and he talked about going to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem last week when he was visiting there. And just it was so moving for him emotionally and spiritually, that he said he went. And so I thought that was a, you know, a nice side of him to see.
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Clay Travis
Tell me about the relationship that you got into this with JD the relationship between Trump and the president. President Trump.
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Miranda Devine
Yeah. Well, that was interesting. He's very respectful of him. And he also said that he, you know, because he had been a never Trumper early on, and he's changed his mind. He said, in part, he changed because he realized that President Trump was not an interventionist, was not a regime change guy was against war. JD Served in Iraq, is very against war, but he likes the peace through strength philosophy that President Trump has. And he talked about how I said, what have you learned about President Trump that's new and that people might not know? And he said, well, he's got a very good heart. And he described how they just had him for dinner, him and the first lady for dinner at the Vice president's residence, the Naval Observatory, and how they kept the kids upstairs. They've got three little kids with the babysitter because, you know, they didn't want them jumping all over the president. And the president wanted to see them, so. And the kids wanted to see him. So they came down and, you know, like JD says, like, they're little kids, they're uncontrollable. They're running around and. And he said, President Trump just loved it. You know, they were. He was so kind to them and treated them, you know, like little human beings and that. He's very grandfatherly and he's great with kids. And so that was interesting. And also, just what we've all observed is his prodigious work ethic. The fact that Carolyn Levitt told me this as well, that on these long trips that he does on Air Force One, like when he did the. That whirlwind Jerusalem, Egypt trip for the peace deal, it was 30 hours in the air there and back, and President Trump didn't sleep, and everyone else was, like, going to sleep. And JD says, you know, he'll come up and sort of prod various members of his cabinet who might be dozing as if they're weak and low energy, you know, because they sleep and he doesn't. And Carolyn told me, like, he goes, and it's 1am and he decided he was. Was going to do a press gaggle. And she was like, oh, okay, I have to go and wake them all up. That was quite. And the other.
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Clay Travis
You go ahead.
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Miranda Devine
No, the other interesting thing was I met JD's beautiful dog, a German shepherd called Atlas, and just sort of an adolescent, about 18 months and very fit, but also incredibly well disciplined, well trained by him. And so I sort of made a quip about the Secret Service agents who probably have PTSD from Joe Biden's absolutely feral German shepherds, Commander and Major, who were attacking the agents left front center, drawing blood, biting them, tearing their clothes. And JD said yes, and laughed and said, yeah, well, a few of the agents have actually expressed gratitude to him that his dog, by contrast, is so well behaved. And. And he is. And I think it says a lot about, you know, you can tell, like, German.
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Clay Travis
Oh, huge. It's a huge indicator, Miranda. I, you know, I'm a big dog person. We have a dog here. I grew up with dogs. You give me some time with someone's dog. I know a lot about the household. Yeah, I know about, you know, whether there's a lot of anxiety. I know about whether there's structure. I know about whether people are kind. I mean, the dog tells you a lot about a household. So that's very interesting about JD's German Shepherd. Go check out Pod Force One. Miranda Devine, always excellent. Have a fantastic weekend.
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Miranda Devine
Thanks so much, Buck, and hope Clay gets back quickly.
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Clay Travis
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