BONUS: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Sep 2 2025

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Episode Date: September 2, 2025
Hosts: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton (Guest hosts)
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Brief Overview and Main Theme

This episode features Clay Travis and Buck Sexton stepping in to deliver a spirited and insightful “Daily Review,” diving into the news cycle following Labor Day weekend 2025. With a focus on the intersection of law, politics, urban crime, and media, the hosts examine:

• Judicial resistance to “Trump 2.0” (Trump’s second term)
• The ongoing debates about federal versus local authority, especially concerning violent crime in major cities
• Cultural authenticity and media influence in contemporary political figures
• Democratic disarray and the challenges facing liberal politicians in the modern era

The episode is marked by humorous banter, critiques of progressive resistance strategies, and deep dives into how leadership—or its absence—impacts urban safety and the national political mood.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Judicial “Resistance” and Trump’s Second Term

(01:32–06:01)

• Clay and Buck kick off by referencing the still-ongoing judicial and bureaucratic resistance to Trump’s policies in his second term, especially from federal district court judges.
• Clay: “The resistance is going to be the same... federal district court judges are going to wrongly decide the law and just try to throw up roadblocks.” (02:05)
• They contend that lower courts routinely challenge Trump, but the Supreme Court consistently upholds his actions. This pattern, they argue, is more about stalling and optics than substantive legal flaws.
• Buck: “So you have a lot of left-wing politicians that are wearing judicial robes and they have decided that they’re going to do everything they can to try to slow down the momentum of Trump 2.0.” (02:53)
• They note this trend is likely to define the entirety of Trump’s (second) term and stress that structural changes require more than one administration.

2. Immigration, Human Trafficking, and Judicial Blocks

(03:36–06:01)

• Buck highlights a real-time example: a federal judge in LA blocked the deportation/reunification of 76 Guatemalan children with their parents, which he says was an anti-Trump gesture despite being a “no-brainer” humanitarian action.
• They build this into a broader critique of how certain judges and Democratic politicians resist Trump policies reflexively—even when those policies have clear merit.

3. The State—and Limits—of Political Resistance

(06:01–07:53)

• Clay and Buck observe that the “resistance” against Trump has evaporated outside of the legal system; street protests, they say, are tepid and uninspired.
• The Democratic Party, according to the hosts, fails to offer substantive alternative ideas.

4. Authenticity, Code-Switching, and Political Communication

(07:53–16:06)

• Focus shifts to Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett (TX), whom Clay accuses of artificially downplaying her intellect and education for political gain.
• Clay: “She is pretending to be dumb and sounding like she’s never gone to any school... because she thinks that’s what she needs to do to connect with her constituents.” (08:27)
• The segment (with quotes from Crockett’s speech) explores the broader theme of “code-switching” in politics—whether it’s honest, useful, or condescending.
• Buck: “I think the AOC model... Politicians are, particularly the younger generation of left-wing politicians, view themselves as social media stars, first and foremost.” (09:47)
• The two debate whether authenticity or performative identity is more effective for modern politicians. Clay insists that voters crave authenticity; Buck argues that strategic communication (even if inauthentic) may be a viable path to media prominence.
• Memorable Exchange:
  • Clay: “Authenticity requires that you be the person you are. And when she is code switching... it exposes that you are dishonest.” (15:00)
  • Buck: “I don’t think she goes profoundly being dumber ... She’s, you know, she’s maybe switching into a different vernacular, a different dialect, but she’s not pretending to be dumb.” (14:19)

5. Urban Crime Crisis and the Politics of Law Enforcement

(18:07–31:20)

• The hosts zero in on surging violent crime rates, with Chicago as a case study—50 people shot, eight fatally over Labor Day weekend.
• Buck: “Chicago is not that big. It is 2 million people, about 1.8 million, I think, Clay... It’s not like this is aberrant numbers for Chicago either.” (20:24)
• They critique Democratic leaders' reluctance to partner with Trump and use federal resources like the National Guard to combat city violence.
• Joe Scarborough’s (MSNBC) suggestion of a bipartisan approach draws praise, while Chicago’s Mayor Brandon Johnson’s opposition to federal assistance is lambasted as empty sloganeering.
• Buck: “Just slogans, meaningless community organizer slogans that will do nothing to bring down the murder rate, nothing to address the crime rate.” (24:24)
• Clay reframes the “law and order” debate as non-partisan and rooted in public safety: “I want the National Guard called in... I wish they would call the National Guard in and deploy it in Memphis.” (28:55)

6. Political Implications for Democrats as Crime Persists

(30:19–32:13)

• Discussion expands to the political cost for Democrats if they continue to be perceived as “soft” on crime, especially among Black voters—whom they credit with an increasing Trump vote share.
• Clay notes the significance: “When you get to the point where it's 1 in 5, 1 in 4 Black men are voting for Trump, that's a real conversation... in the Black community.” (31:20)

7. The “Socialist” Label & New York Politics

(33:31–46:01)

• Criticism of The New York Times for drawing distinctions between “democratic socialist” and “socialist” labelings in NY politics, arguing such hair-splitting is mere rhetorical cover for radical policies.
• Buck and Clay debate the actual threat posed by far-left politicians like Mamdani, and whether their inexperience or incompetence might ultimately blunt their policy ambitions.
• This also segues into a discussion of New York City’s leadership history and the differences between technocratic mayors (like Bloomberg) and ideological ones (like De Blasio or, potentially, Mamdani).
• Buck: “You could have a commie who's also incompetent. ... Does the incompetence work in the favor of the city?” (45:49)

8. The BRICS Summit & Geopolitics

(49:10–50:27)

• Brief aside on the “BRICS” summit (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa + new members), discussing its attempt to counterbalance U.S. dollar dominance in global trade.

9. Data, Denial, and Political Messaging on Crime

(52:33–63:11)

• More analysis of Democratic politicians’ defensive arguments regarding urban crime statistics, featuring JB Pritzker and Brandon Johnson.
• The hosts critique Democratic talking points as out of touch, especially when mayors dismiss federal aid or pivot to historical grievances rather than actionable solutions.
• Clay: “When you're shifting the argument… you're actually just legitimizing the fact that it would be successful.” (61:22)
• The symbolic and practical impact of National Guard deployments is discussed, highlighting that perception of consequences deters crime.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Clay Travis: “The resistance is going to be the same as it was in the spring, in the summer, in the Winter of Trump 2.0. And that is federal district court judges are going to wrongly decide the law and just try to throw up roadblocks.” (01:32)
• Buck Sexton: “So you have a lot of left wing politicians that are wearing judicial robes and they have decided that they're going to do everything they can to try to slow down the momentum of Trump 2.0.” (02:53)
• Clay Travis, on code-switching: “She is pretending to be dumb and sounding like she's never gone to any school of any measure because she thinks that's what she needs to do to connect with her constituents.” (08:27)
• Buck Sexton: “You can say that... you think it's absurd, of course, and I get that. But I think that she views this as code-switching and profile-building at a time when Democrats are in a vacuum for not just leadership, but for media attention.” (12:11)
• On Urban Crime:
  • Buck: “It's not like this is aberrant numbers for Chicago either... The numbers are out of control.” (20:24)
  • Clay: “If I were the governor I'd be considering calling in the National Guard to deploy in Memphis and say we're not going to allow Memphis to have a murder rate that is basically 20x what's happening in New York City.” (29:30)
• Buck Sexton, on Democratic mayors: “Just slogans, meaningless community organizer slogans that will do nothing to bring down the murder rate...” (24:24)
• Clay Travis, summarizing crime politics: “When you believe that there are consequences for crime, it makes a criminal take a pause... There are less violent acts that actually are begun in the first place just by the idea of, hey, they might catch me.” (58:03)

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Timestamps for Critical Segments

• Judicial Resistance & Trump’s 2.0 Term: 01:32–06:01
• Immigration & Judicial Activism: 03:36–06:01
• Cultural Authenticity & Jasmine Crockett: 07:53–16:06
• Urban Crime in Chicago; National Guard Debate: 18:07–31:20
• Democratic Political Consequences & Black Voters: 30:19–32:13
• Socialism in NY Politics: 33:31–46:01
• BRICS & Geopolitics: 49:10–50:27
• Chicago & Political Messaging on Crime: 52:33–63:11

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Tone, Style, and Character

The episode is energetic and conversational, marked by Clay’s directness and Buck’s blend of data-driven argument and sardonic wit. Critical of what they see as “performative” resistance and empty rhetoric, the hosts champion authenticity, pragmatic leadership, and clear-eyed assessment of urban policy failures—particularly regarding crime and judicial overreach.

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For Listeners: Why This Episode Matters

• Insider Perspective: Offers a conservative perspective on not just policy, but political engagement and trends in urban America.
• Deep Dives: Moves beyond surface-level news to interrogate the roots of social problems and the effectiveness of political messaging.
• Entertaining & Thought-Provoking: The banter and passionate debate make dense topics accessible while raising larger questions about authenticity, media, and American public life.

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Listen if you want to:

• Understand the conservative critique of Democratic urban leadership
• Study the efficacy (and limits) of the “resistance” to Trump’s presidency
• Explore the evolving dynamics of political communication and leadership in America
• Examine real-world cases of policy, law enforcement, and judicial activism shaping day-to-day safety and politics
• Be entertained while engaging with real policy debate

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Note: Advertisements and other non-content segments have been omitted. All timestamps and attributions are accurate as per the original dialogue.

Transcript

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome in. We are rolling with the Tuesday edition of the program. We hope all of you had fantastic Labor Day weekends. I did. I think Buck did as well. I met a lot of you at the Alabama Florida State game. Man, we've been doing this show for so long, Buck. I remember when Alabama was actually good at football.

[Buck Sexton]

I actually do too. Which tells you something.

[Clay Travis]

Florida State Seminoles get the big win there. It was a lot of fun meeting many of you. So I'm back on the road for college football season a lot again. But we began now that we are officially into fall, even though it doesn't feel like fall in most of the country kids officially back in schools, most places, everywhere. And the question becomes, what will the first fall of Trump 2.0 look like? And, well, the answer is the resistance is going to be the same as it was in the spring, in the summer, in the Winter of Trump 2.0. And that is federal district court judges are going to wrongly decide the law and just try to throw up roadblocks. And we'll get into this a little bit. But it kind of surprises me how seriously the media still treats all of these federal court decisions. They, they, they come out and they say, oh my goodness, Trump doesn't have the authority to insert whatever issue is currently being litigated. And then it goes to the circuit court. And the circuit court generally says, yes, he does. And so far the Supreme Court always says he does. So you have a lot of left wing politicians that are wearing judicial robes and they have decided that they're going to do everything they can to try to slow down the momentum of Trump 2.0. And I just don't really get that worked up about it at this point in time. We told you that this is what's going to occur. You should expect for the next three plus years. This is primarily what they're going to do. And this is why no matter how good of a term Trump has, the things that need to be fixed in this country are multi term, multi president in nature, no matter how good Trump 2.0 is. But I do think we should address it as we usually do.

[Buck Sexton]

Some some important notes here. One is the judge who came forward and found that Trump it was unlawful for the president to deploy the National Guard in Los Angeles. Yeah, we'll see about that. It also has already happened. So there's really no sanctions or anything other than this is a slap down or meant to be a slap down of Trump. I think what got even more attention over the weekend, Clay, is and this is from one of the administration spokespersons, Trisha McLaughlin, that there was an effort to, to take 76 unaccompanied Guatemalan children. Now understand these are kids who were brought into the country or in some cases found at the border of this country. And this was happening for a while, part of the human trafficking that was going on here where they were, the term they would use is recycling kids. And this is what they were saying at the border Border patrol they, that kids were being used as pawns by people to get into the country. Because if you had a child with you and claim the child was a family member or a dependent, you could not be deported, Clay. So it was this end run onto US soil essentially. And so there were all these kids and this was, this was part of the scam, the illegal immigrant scam that was being run. It's not the kids fault, obviously. These are children, 76 of them the administration was trying to reunite. And this is from Stephen Miller and other White House officials with their parents in Guatemala. And a judge, Judge Sparkle Suknanp is has blocked that flight from the reunification of Guatemalan children with their families in their actual country of nationality. Because Clay, anything Trump does, Trump taking kids who don't have their parents and reuniting them with their parents is bad because Democrats hate Trump. They don't ever go beyond the actual realities or rather they don't get into the actual realities of what he's done. So that's, that's going on. And just one other thing I throw in the mix because we're going to talk also about the law enforcement piece. I don't want to take away from the judge discussion, but 50 people shot over the weekend in Chicago. Yeah, five, zero people shot. Eight fatally. Hmm. Maybe time to have that discussion, too. But on the judges clay, this is just the only real resistance there is to Trump.

[Clay Travis]

We said this and we're being proven right about it more and more. It is a real question, where was resistance going to come from? We, we saw the protest resistance at the inauguration and we came on and we told you. We just kind of felt sorry for them. There's just no energy there. There still is no energy there. They can't even pay people to show up and protest in big numbers. So the street protest as the resistance to Trump 2.0 is nonexistent politically. I want to play this cut because Jasmine Crockett, from, I believe the Houston area of Texas, maybe the Dallas area of Texas, is supposed to be one of the top Trump critics. And I think you see in her, when I play this cut, there is no real resistance from the Democrat Party because they are so bereft of ideas, and the ideas they do have are just flat out wrong and rejected by huge majorities of the country. But I want you to listen to this, and before I play it, I want you to understand Jasmine Crockett's parents did everything they could to get her the best possible education, as well every parent should. They sent her to a private school in Missouri that cost over $30,000 a year. They sent her to Rhodes College in the Memphis area, which is a great liberal arts school team. Look up what the cost of Rhodes College is now. I believe it costs over $60,000 a year with room and board included there. So over $30,000 a year for her high school, over $60,000 a year for her college. Yet this is how she has. She is well educated. She has gone to elite schools.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, she's, she's expensively educated. There's a difference.

[Clay Travis]

But she understands and knows basic grammar. And I want you to listen to this. And she is pretending to be dumb and sounding like she's never gone to any school of any measure because she thinks that's what she needs to do to connect with her constituents. It's an insult to her parents. It's also an insult to all those constituents who don't actually want to be talked to like this. Listen.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, they are crazy because they always talk about how Christian they is. Yeah. I don't know how many of them.

[Clay Travis]

On that side are getting divorced because they getting caught up sleeping with their co workers, staffers, interns, all the things.

[Buck Sexton]

Yeah, you ain't got to believe me. Just go Google. You'll find some of it, I'm telling you.

[Clay Travis]

And the wives is being messy and petty. They putting it in the divorce. I'm like, oh, that's got to be true. Because your lawyer would know that they gonna lose it.

[Buck Sexton]

All right.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, this is embarrassing. I. There's no way to say, hey, this is someone who represents 700,000 people in the United States. This is one of 435 members of Congress to be talking like this in public intentionally not able to speak basic grammar. It's embarrassing.

[Buck Sexton]

Does it work for her politically, though?

[Clay Travis]

No, That's. No.

[Buck Sexton]

You don't think so?

[Clay Travis]

No, it doesn't. Because I think she's. She is. Well, it depends on what her goal is. If she wants.

[Buck Sexton]

That's. That's what I'm getting at here. Right. What is she trying to accomplish with this? How is she trying to position herself this vis a vis her voters and her national profile?

[Clay Travis]

Well, she can't ever do anything other than represent one congressional district like this. You can't get elected to statewide office in Texas talking like this. You can't get elected president of the United States talking about it, but she.

[Buck Sexton]

You can get the national media talking about you. Well, can get a lot of attention. You can be. You know, look at the. I think the AOC model, Clay. Insofar as now politicians are, and particularly like the younger generation of left wing politicians, view themselves as social media stars, first and foremost is something to keep in mind. See, you're thinking about this, like, as a statesman. Shouldn't she. And with respect to her voters, I think she's playing to the. She's playing to the Internet constituency.

[Clay Travis]

She's playing. But even if she's playing to the Internet constituency, Buck, I don't think there's a huge demand for dumb. I don't. I don't think that black, white, Asian, Hispanic, real large audiences are out there saying, I want someone who is pretending to be dumber than she is. Because I think a lot of people see through this. By the way, Rhodes College, over $70,000 a year in room and board. This is where she went. She knows how to use is and are correctly in sentences like, you know, I'm not saying she's a Rhodes scholar or the most brilliant person on the planet. But when you go to elite education institutions, they will beat grammar into your head. She knows how to speak.

[Buck Sexton]

I got a view. I think. I think you're overestimating elite institutions and their ability to get anybody to speak properly or think properly or even do their own. These days, they can't even get the kids to write their own essays because of AI the whole thing is falling apart. But even going back decades, I'm not sure that proper grammar is necessarily something that people would get even at elite. Again, I always put elite in quotes. And you and I both have gone to elite educational institutions, and there were dumb asses at my school. I don't know what to tell you. There are guys who could barely put.

[Clay Travis]

Two words together, so no black person who goes to GW is able to. Where I went, is able to go to the school and not be able to correctly use is or are in a sentence like or.

[Buck Sexton]

I see. I think you're. I think that you're. She is. You're saying that she's. She's.

[Clay Travis]

This is, in my opinion, 100%.

[Buck Sexton]

I think she's. I think she's trying to. She's trying to code switch and trying to appeal to different constituencies in different ways as part of her growing. Clay, there is a massive vacuum on the Democrat side right now so big that not even Pritzker can fill it. And there are people out there. There are people out there who recognize that now is a time. Clay, look at aoc. Look at. You keep thinking that these Democrats have to be held to standards of authenticity or honesty or anything. AOC grew up in fancy Westchester, and yet she's presented herself as, you know, Ocasio Cortez from the Bronx, man, like, I've been on these mean streets, you know? And she even sometimes would speak in a more. A more sort of urban dialect. AOC would. Went to bu, which I think was the most expensive school in the country in Clay. They love her. So I. I'm. You know, you're. You're approaching this. I don't think you're seeing this like a leftist is what I'm trying to tell you. I think you got to look through the leftist lens. I think she's building her profile. You can say that, you know, you think it's absurd, of course, and I get that. But I think that she views this as code switching and profile building at a time when Democrats are in a vacuum for not just leadership, but for media attention.

[Clay Travis]

I think this. This is. Look, she may end up on the View. And there is an argument out here that I think, building on your social media influencer argument, I think that many people now who are in Congress are auditioning for podcast and media jobs because they make $170,000 a year. So she may have a future in media. But I think even I'm going to.

[Buck Sexton]

Put this out there. I think, I think this is true. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to, but I. Clay, there would have been a time when I think that radio was a stepping stone to elected office or podcasting, you know, audio. And now I think that for a lot of people, elected office is a stepping stone into audio, social media profile, all that kind of stuff. I think it has changed dramatically over the last 20 years.

[Clay Travis]

I think the challenge is basically when you're a politician, your only job is communication. And I don't buy that communicating as if you are dumber than you actually are. And here I'm giving credit to Jasmine Crockett. I think that clearly she is pretending that she is dumber than she is to try to speak to an audience.

[Buck Sexton]

I don't think she goes profoundly being dumber. She's not, she's, she's, she's sort of. She's, you know, she's maybe switching into a different vernacular, a different dialect, but she's not pretending to be dumb. She's. She's pretending that this is the way that she normally necessarily speaks and communicates. Right? Like when Hillary Clinton Clay would go down and be like, oh, eyes I so tired, you know, walking. You remember when Hillary did her whole Southern thing? She's not pretending to be dumb. She's pretending to meet Southern. Now, all the Southerners listening, including you, I think are like that chance lady. But she's trying to ingratiate herself with that approach to them.

[Clay Travis]

See, I guess what, I guess what I'm going to is I think ultimately what connects with people is authenticity. And I think most people. Now there is a small segment, she could probably get elected congresswoman from that district over and over again and not matter in the larger 435 person house. But I think in a social media sphere, the only thing that matters is authenticity. And authenticity requires that you be the person you are. And when she is code switching, that resonates like we should play a cut of her talking in two different vernaculars. That doesn't work because you can put them side by side and it exposes that you are dishonest. I've said this for a long time. My conversations that I have in public and the conversations that I have in private, there's zero difference between them and that is why I think that works in media. Authenticity is all that matters. I think she is basically not going to exist for much longer when a natural disaster strikes.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

Welcome in second hour of Clay and Buck. It kicks off right now. Thanks for being here with us. So as we know, a major push by this Trump White House. The President himself has been on the issue of crime in D.C. we spent a lot of time on it, and I think so far it has been a big political winner for Donald Trump because he's doing two things simultaneously. It's a brilliant Trump move. Brilliant Trump move he has. He is putting wins up on the board, while also encouraging, in essence, because he pushed for it, Democrats to defend the indefensible. So it's coming at this from two sides. One is it's just the right thing to do. It's a good thing to do. Make people safer. Bring down the murder rate. Bring down the carjacking rate. Yay. We think we'd all be on board for that, right? But two Democrats go, hey, like, so there's a lot of murders in D.C. i mean, who doesn't have this problem? A lot of places don't have the problem. But you know what I mean? They're trying to suggest, like, no big deal. And in the process, everyone looks at them, including some Democrats look at them and say, what is your problem? Like, we. We actually want fewer murders. We. We need to be a party. Some places, it has to be. Which one of us is better at achieving the desired goal and the murder rate should be one of them. Are Democrats or Republicans better at bringing this down? It shouldn't be. Democrats are the. This is pretty good. And Republicans are. No, it is not, because it is clearly way too high in D.C. and it's clearly way too high in Chicago as well. Over the weekend, 50 people shot, 8 fatally. Over Labor Day weekend, 5, 0. 50 people were shot in the city of Chicago. Chicago is not that big. It is 2 million people, about 1.8 million, I think, Clay, is the number. New York is 8.5 million by comparison. So Chicago is. Is it the. Is it still larger than Houston? Houston is like its own. You know, you can, like, drive for an hour and a half and still be in Houston, I think, technically.

[Clay Travis]

So it's a little tough to metro areas. It's still New York, LA, Chicago, 1, 2, 3. I think Houston and Dallas are 4 and 5, if I'm not mistaken, again, on the metropolitan areas.

[Buck Sexton]

But again, Houston, it's like, what is Houston? Well, it's a very big place. So 50 people shot. That's too many people. I think we're all clear on that. It's not like this is aberrant numbers for Chicago either. This is some random. No, on Labor Day weekend, you go back, there are a lot of weekends where you have 30 shot, 40 shot. I mean, these numbers are out of control, and it was very interesting to me, Clay. This morning, sure enough, on good old msnbc, there was a conversation that was happening, and it was Joe Scarborough who we'll get into this. Reaching out, in essence, to the Democrat intelligentsia, including the governor of Illinois, who of course includes in its environs the city of Chicago, saying that it is time to partner up with Trump on the issue of crime. This is on MSNBC Play:4. I actually think that JB Pritzker should do something radical. I think you should pick up the phone, call the president and say, you know and I know you don't have the constitutional authority to deploy the National Guard here and to police my. You can do that in D.C. you can't do that in Chicago, but let's partner up. These are the most dangerous parts of my state. We would love to figure out how to have a partnership that's constitutional, that respects the sort of balance of federalism between the federal government and the state government, and let's work together to save lives. That sounds entirely reasonable, doesn't it, Clay? It sounds like the kind of thing that somebody who might be trying to make a. Make a move to be a voice to bring the Democrats not toward the center, but towards sanity would be making. Good old Morning Joe. I think he sees Elaine Clay, uh.

[Clay Travis]

He'S wrong saying the president doesn't have the authority. He's 100% right. With everything else he said, this is what should happen. This is to be, to give her credit, D.C. mayor Muriel Bowser seems to be doing, to the best of her ability, an attempt to work with Trump to make Washington, D.C. safer. And I don't understand why anyone out there would be trying to prevent the president from making his or her city or state safer than it otherwise would be. And we have here is Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, contrasting with the reasonable take that we just heard. That's what you would have heard on msnbc. Worth noting that if you are losing Joe Scarborough on msnbc, how many MSNBC viewers might be hearing somewhat same take suddenly as part of Trump 2.0? That, to me, is a sign that the virulent Trump is Hitler agenda. Leave aside the fact that we all know it's a lie. It doesn't raid anymore. It doesn't actually motivate the viewers, even.

[Buck Sexton]

You have Morning Joe there. Joe Scarborough himself, who remembers a former Republican, so he can play. You want to talk about code switching this guy, he'll switch jerseys, he'll switch, you know, whatever was going to.

[Clay Travis]

He repped the Florida Gulf coast one of the most beautiful places in the country. Believe, if I'm not mistaken.

[Buck Sexton]

So he would have been the 30A congressman, right? I mean, he was in that area at one point, right? I think so, yeah. As Clay says, God's country on the Gulf of America, no less. On the Gulf of America. He would have been a congressman for it. But there's that position. And then you get the more hardcore left wing Democrat position here from Chicago. Mayor Johnson, this is cut 5. Here's the other approach to Chicago. Play it.

[Clay Travis]

No federal troops in the city of Chicago. No militarized force in the city of Chicago.

[Buck Sexton]

We're going to defend our democracy in the city of Chicago. We're going to protect the humanity of every single person in the city of Chicago. Just slogans, meaningless community organizer slogans that will do nothing to bring down the murder rate, nothing to address the crime rate. I mean, somebody should just ask. Somebody should ask the mayor of Chicago. Is 50 people over the weekend shot in your city too much? Do you view that as an urgent problem, sir? And try to pin him down on this because he would just go back into the slogans.

[Clay Travis]

Clay, I don't understand what the audience is for arguing. We're going to stand up to the president trying to bring more law and order to cities that 81% of Americans believe have too much violence. 99% of Americans believe have some form of violence. That's too much. I don't understand who is out there. Again, this ties in, buck, with the argument we saw from mayor Karen Bass where she just said the quiet part out loud. She said, well, we can't have more police and more national guard troops because then too many black and brown people are gonna get arrested. So you really have the argument being made of, well, there's gonna be too many black and brown people arrested. So that's why we don't want more law and order in the city. But what about all the black and brown people who are going to be victims if these people are not arrested? That is the immediate question that's begged. And I think the vast majority of people out there, regardless of your background, want your kids to be safe and want to be able to walk in the streets and not worry about it. I have said for a long time to me, the test of whether a neighborhood is safe is are you okay with your wife, your girlfriend, your daughter, your granddaughter going for a jog at dusk in a neighborhood? Like if. If you're. If you're a woman who is significant in your life or a girl who's significant in your life. Goes outside and at 6pm and she's like, hey, I'm going to go for a jog for 30 minutes. Are you comfortable with her doing that? It should be the point, it should be the case that everywhere in America we are comfortable with that happening. But right now, tons of you listening, you'd say, yeah, my daughter, she can't go for a jog. My 16 year old, she's training cross country or she's a soccer player and she's trying to stay in shape. She can't go jogging if she might get out after dusk. So that is the ultimate test.

[Buck Sexton]

I lived this test, this reality in New York City in the, in the 90s.

[Clay Travis]

Yep.

[Buck Sexton]

Where it was, you can't go jogging at night. That's why the Central park jogger case was. Well, obviously it was horrific, but also it was so. It hit home for so many people. It's like you can't even go jockey in Central park in this city. That was the. Without something horrific happening.

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

And, and then you had the, you know, the realities of you couldn't go to Central park at night. But I would say, Clay, in these cases we're talking about, would you be comfortable driving through these neighborhoods in a nice car in broad daylight? That's a different, that's a different. The standard you're talking about is true safety. I think the standard you could apply to the south side of Chicago or I guess it's south and some of the western precincts of Chicago, or you know, you could apply to the more dangerous parts of Memphis, New Orleans. You get on the list of these cities is would you be willing to drive, you know, would you get in your friend's Mercedes or your friends BMW or whatever and drive through these areas, spend an hour driving around and feel safe? And I think in some of these places you would say absolutely not.

[Clay Travis]

Would you stop and get gas? When you talked about this, in, in, we're not, I think the primary people who are going to be victims of crime. And by which I mean we're grown men, not elderly. Like, we're not in theory, easy marks.

[Buck Sexton]

You see all those push ups that Clay did on that video? No one's going to mess with Clay.

[Clay Travis]

We're not easy marks. I mean we're six foot, you know, decent sized guys. Right.

[Buck Sexton]

Got some, got some weight to throw around over here. Maybe a little too much. But you know, I could, I could box out if I need to.

[Clay Travis]

But when you were in St. Louis and they told you, hey, you can't walk anywhere at this hotel. And when I was in Memphis, they.

[Buck Sexton]

Told me not to go stroll around at night by myself in the downtown. In the night, like the main part of downtown, the heart of the city. They straight up told me that I'm.

[Clay Travis]

Staying in one of the nicer areas of Memphis with my kid because he's got an event going on. And the lady working the front desk at the hotel at 8:30pm was like, Are you sure you want to go outside? And I was like, well I, you know, I forgot my charger. I'm just going to go fill up my gas tank and get a charger at the local gas station here. It's like, okay, be careful at 8:30. I mean, I mean this is where we are to your point. St. Louis, I want the National Guard called in State Guard, but obviously in many different. I want to call it everywhere. I live in Tennessee. I wish they would call the National Guard in and deploy it in Memphis. Your point on St. Louis? I think a lot of people out there who live in the St. Louis area are like, yeah, I'd like more security. Kansas City, New Orleans, Chicago, Baltimore. Why would we not. If I were the governor and a lot of you out there are like, oh, I don't know about that, Clay. If I were the governor I'd be considering calling in the National Guard to deploy in the state Guard but National Guard to deploy in Memphis and say we're not going to allow Memphis to have a murder rate that is basically 20x what's happening in New York City. Not going to allow it. There's too many innocent people being killed. I think this is a great decision all over the place.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, I think that on, on crime and also on, on the border for example, going forward there's going to have to be some national level Democrat attempt to co opt these issues for themselves a little bit. As in, yeah, they, they have to come up with we're part of the solution. Not continue to perpetuate the problem. Because these have become huge political liabilities for them. I mean the immigration thing, the illegals, the 10 million under Biden was clearly a major, might have been the deciding issue. Quite honestly in this last election. I think you could argue that it was meaning the single most, you know, intractable, pervasive and Democrats getting hammered on an issue. And so I think on this, on this issue also of making cities safer, you know, it may not change the vote in Chicago, but it might change the vote in some places that are purple. It might make people think in the suburbs of some of these cities, you know what? I can't vote for some lunatic Democrat again. And that's where the political weakness lies.

[Clay Travis]

I'll tell you what it does. I think a lot of black guys, again, over 20% of them voted Trump in 2024. I think a lot of them look around and say this is unacceptable. And they don't accept the Brandon Johnson argument of, hey, we got to stand up, like, why should we not have more safety? Why? And look, black women, too, but they have been more committed to the Democrat Party. When you get to the point where it's 1 in 5, 1 in 4 black men are voting for Trump, that's a real conversation that's taking place now in the black community. And I think when you look around in Chicago, you say this is unacceptable. By the way, I am fired up. The NFL is back this week, Buck. I don't even know that Buck knew, but there was an unbelievable college football game in his backyard, basically in Miami with the Miami Hurricane Kanes hosting Notre Dame Catholics versus Convicts. Old school matchup.

[Buck Sexton]

You never hear that phrase, convicts, sir. Good heavens.

[Clay Travis]

Miami Hurricanes were the convicts and the obviously Notre Dame was the Catholics. And it's a little politically incorrect maybe, but also a great nickname for a great game. Now, we have got tons of games going on Thursday night. Cowboys, Eagles, Friday night, Chiefs, Chargers, and then everybody plays by Sunday. You can get hooked up with price picks right now, get 50 bucks. We're going to give you a pick every Thursday or Friday on this show of an NFL. NFL game. Players. I'm going to give them. Buck's going to learn some of their names. We're going to be rolling. All you have to do is go to prize picks. Use Code Clay. Available in over 40 states right now. California, Texas, Florida, Georgia. You can play it easy to use. We'll give you the picks. You get $50 when you go. Sign up right now at pricepix.com code clay that is pricepix.com code clay. Want to be in the know when you're on the go the Team 47 podcast. Drop highlights from the week, Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Buck podcast feed. Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Buck Sexton]

Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. Appreciate you all being with us and we're gonna get to some talkbacks and calls, all of that good stuff. Remember 800-282-2882 on those phone lines. The talkback is fabulous. To borrow a word. It's a fabulous talkback. What you do is you go to the iHeartRadio app, which is my favorite audio app, and you go to the Clay and Buck page. You should subscribe because we got a great podcast network there. You can also listen streaming to the show, but you click the little microphone and then you just send us voicemails. We get transcripts of all of them, by the way. We play as many as we have time for on the air, but obviously we get more than we we could otherwise just do three hours of talkbacks. But we appreciate all of them. So please do send them in and we'll try to get a bunch more on the air and that will be a very good thing. With that in mind, Mr. Clay, I have to bring attention for a moment here to the New York Times and, and the way that they are trying to run interference or obfuscation propaganda for Mamdani the commie, who is a, I believe, self described as a democratic socialist. And so now we're going to get into this game where somebody to get, to get support and to get the left behind them. They say I'm a democratic socialist, I'm a democratic socialist. Then we say, okay, so you're a socialist. Right. And this should be pretty straightforward because it's in the name, but they play the games. This is from the New York Times over The weekend that Mr. Cuomo used both of his appearances on Fox News last week talking about the opponent from Hamdani in the New York race. Cuomo to criticize Mamdani's left leaning views, warning that they would be a death knell for New York City. New York City people are not socialists. Mr. Cuomo said new York City people are not socialist. Neither actually is Mr. Mamdani. The new York Times rejoins. He is a democratic socialist, which means his beliefs are similar to those of socialists but not exactly the same. He is a member of both the National Democratic Socialists of America and its New York City chapter. What does the New York Times think that it's doing here? It's funny because really more and more it's only read by left wing people or people on the right who want to trash it. And they're trying to tell everybody don't call him a socialist even though he's a socialist.

[Clay Travis]

What do you think his term in office would actually be like? Because the reason why I bring it up is again, I'm frustrated that there hasn't been a coalition of somebody to sit down with Andrew Cuomo, with Curtis Lewa and with Eric Adams and really say, okay, get out of the race. One of you has to be the guy. And I think Eric Adams would win if everybody else got out. I'm not sure Cuomo would win.

[Buck Sexton]

Oh no, I think, I think you have it backwards on this one. I think Cuomo has a much better chance than Adams. Clay Adams, his numbers are absolutely like pitiful. He's in single digit support.

[Clay Travis]

I think. Well, so I think he would could win. I could be wrong. I think that Cuomo could win. I think that Sliwa has virtually no chance of winning. So I don't understand what he's doing and I understand that a lot of you at WO are he's a Republican. I'm not saying that I disagree with him on the policies. I'm saying that if you look at this situation, Momdani is such a big threat that otherwise not political allies should come together from keep him from going to office. Having said that, it seems like he is saying that he would not change very much suddenly as he is now trying to run for office. For instance, Jessica Tisch, who has done a really good job, it appears to be fair to her running the nypd, driving down crime. All these things Buck, I looked it up through the end of August and New York City team, you can correct me if I'm wrong on this. I believe there were only 201 murders in New York City between so nine months. So that would put us on pace for 270, something like that. Ish. Because probably a little bit lower because summer tends to be higher rates of crime in general. That's really good. Right? I'm not saying that I wish, I wish there was no murders. All those things, I get that they're still.

[Buck Sexton]

Clay is, is decidedly despite the pushback anti murder as we have discussed.

[Clay Travis]

I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick as hard on the anti murder camp as I can. But he's now saying he would leave her in charge. I wonder how much of him is going to be. He says all these crazy things and then when push comes to shove, when he actually gets into the office, whether he's not going to do very much to actually implement the agenda he claimed he would implement. Does that make sense?

[Buck Sexton]

This is big. That's, this is quite a gamble, right? I mean now you're talking about a situation. So, so I'm very clear, I think on what happened through because I was living in New York, right. So Giuliani comes in and he's Wyatt Earp. You know, he cleans up the town he fixes it, he gets it on the right course. NYPD compstat it at all. It all comes together. And now you have this city that is. That is incredibly on the rise and is a cry, a crime reduction story. Not just for the country, by the way it became a globe. New York City has connections to police departments all over. All over the world. This has been a long standing practice, but they have very close relationships with other. And they do information sharing. I was a part of this in intel division. Now it's Intel Bureau. It's actually gotten bigger since I left. And Jesse Tisch, who's now the commissioner, was one of my. One of my peers. We didn't work in the same office, but on the same general issue at the time. And because she's only a couple, I think she's your age, Clay. She's only a couple of years older than me. And the NYPD story is that they managed to fix all this stuff. And then Bloomberg comes in and says, okay, look, I'm a Democrat, but I also like safety and investment and clean streets, and so I'm going to keep doing the smart things. Does Bloomberg say what you will, He's a smart guy. I disagree with him on sodas and gun control, but he's a smart guy. De Blasio comes in and he's like, we've had way too much prosperity, safety and growth. It's time for. It's time to start just turning the, the wheels of communism from inside the system. And it, you know, if he inherited a great situation. So it took a while. It's like, Gavin Newsom in California takes a while to ruin these places, right? You know, the Bolshoi was still like the best ballet in the world in the 70s in the Soviet Union, because they had, you know, 150 years of like, or 100 years of, you know, it takes a while to ruin some of these things. And I'm just, you know, and some of the greatest writers of the 20th century were Soviet writers, not because of the Soviet Union as like a font of, of creative energy, but because Russia and its history. Okay, so he comes and then. And then you get to Mayor Eric Adams play. And then the wheels of communism because of de Blasio are just chewing up the city and ruining everything. And Adams comes in and he's like, okay, I don't want to do this anymore. But he's not. He's not an adept enough leader and manager to stop it, really. Maybe he has slowed the progression, but it's. It's you know, it's kind of kept going. Where would Mamdani be on this? That's. That's really bring us back to the question, would he be a de Blasio or would he be something else? Because de Blasio, I truly believe, for ideological reasons, intentionally ruined the city of New York as much as he could. He didn't ruin it totally, but he intentionally made every bad decision that could be made, every stupid move that he could possibly have pulled off. If Mamdani were to speak left and govern right. First of all, I would give 10 or 1 to 10. I always get this wrong. Whatever the odds are, very long odds that he would do that.

[Clay Travis]

10 to 1.

[Buck Sexton]

10 to 1. I'd give 10 to 1 odds that he would do that. And, and even if he did, I'm not sure that he has the. This is where I think it's an Eric Adams thing. I don't think he has the ability to figure it out. Right. So maybe on the NYPD side, at least he knows to leave a good commissioner in place. But there's a lot of other stuff that the city needs, needs help with.

[Clay Travis]

I just don't know if he has the functional ability because he's never really had a job like this to actually implement a lot of the things that he's saying. And so look, is it a big risk? Yes. Do what? Would I live in New York City? No. If I made a good living and my job were something where I could live other places, I would probably say I'm out now. I understand a lot of you have kids in school. It's hard to move. You've got jobs that are not portable in nature. Nature. You've got family that you are deeply connected to in neighborhoods and all those other things. But if he's actually going to implement the agenda that he is saying he's going to implement, then I think New York City is in severe.

[Buck Sexton]

I know, I know Florida realtors personally. You're already running specific ads online to target, you know, in a good way, but to target New Yorkers who they think are high income and will want to flee to Florida if Mamdani wins. Like that's already happening here. So if you, if you're wondering if your Florida real estate prices are probably going to keep going up, They. I think they are.

[Clay Travis]

I, I would be nervous if. I'm a New York City guy and gal and I just, I look at it and a part of me thinks, could this be a bait and switch where he says all these crazy left Wing things and then when it comes to actually delivering on them, it's very difficult to deliver on them.

[Buck Sexton]

And I just, I, I, you're, you're talking about lack. Sounds like you think that he's, even if he's like a Leninist, he's an incompetent Leninist, so maybe he can't get it done. That's a different thing than I actually repudiate Vladimir Lenin. You know what I'm saying?

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, I think that there could be, I'm not sure how committed he actually is to it. I think this guy just wants to be elected mayor and I think he may not be able to implement it because what's he done to succeed? What management ability does he have? Or you look at, you say, boy, this guy's been really, really good. To your point, Bloomberg, Bloomberg is in a phenomenal business. Right. Like he is. Whatever you think about Mayor Bloomberg, he built one of the all time great media and, and business.

[Buck Sexton]

I think he was the richest New Yorker. I think he was the richest New Yorker in New York state when he was mayor. I think that's true. He was worth like $60 billion or something like that.

[Clay Travis]

I mean, the guy is an incredibly skilled business figure. De Blasio is a mess. Giuliani, I think, really got it with, what was it Bratton, his initial commissioner that he worked with in the New York City pd. I think he knew because he was a prosecutor. What do you have to do to move the levers of crime in New York City? I just don't know that Mamdani has the skill set, Buck, to actually implement anything that he's claiming he's going to do.

[Buck Sexton]

According to Grok, Bloomberg is still the richest guy in New York state, worth over 100 billion.

[Clay Travis]

And unless I'm mistaken, Bloomberg made all of his money. Yeah, no, he did not inherit, he.

[Buck Sexton]

Didn'T inherit 80 billion and wants to tell you about the 20. Let me tell you something. You inherit 80 billion. The last 20 is not hard, but you know that, that, yes, that is the case. He completely built his own business. So he's clearly a very high iq, very capable guy. And, and that showed in, in the city of New York. I, he was a, he was a fantastic mayor and people can say what they want. I knew very conservative cops in the NYPD and they would not say a bad word about Bloomberg full stop. Even though they disagreed with him on some stuff. They were like, he's doing a great job. Mamdani Clay, you could have a commie who's Also incompetent. Now this is what the question that I was asking you is. Does the incompetence work in the favor of the city?

[Clay Travis]

Yes.

[Buck Sexton]

Because. Yes, you know, that's, that may be the case. Like when he says things like running, I mean having city run grocery stores.

[Clay Travis]

Is one of the craziest ideas on the planet. It's just, it's just bonkers.

[Buck Sexton]

It's, it's also, you think about this, the fact that they don't have even.

[Clay Travis]

The, the grocery store is one of the hardest business. They have a 1 or 2% profit margin. The produce is constantly, constantly having to be replaced because obviously it has perishability issues. Getting, you know this better than anybody, all you guys. Getting things into New York City is incredibly expensive, difficult shipping, all the, I mean the idea that somehow the government is going to run a better grocery store and save people money is so crazy. By the way, 209 murders in New York City year to date through the end of August. That is a 20% decline from last year and would put them on pace for somewhere in the 200s, which is a very good number for a city the size of New York City when it comes to murder. Getting it down as low as possible. Want to tell you about our friends at Tunnel the Towers who do phenomenal work to help make sure that so many of you out there are able to support so many people putting their lives on the line on a day to day basis. After joining the US Army, Thomas Kennedy served two tours of duty in Iraq, one in Afghanistan. Earned dozens of awards, service medals throughout his honorable career. But while he was deployed in eastern Afghanistan, soldiers life tragically cut short because he was killed by a Taliban suicide bomber. He left behind his wife Cammie, their beautiful twins Maggie and Brody. They were just weeks shy of their second birthday when they lost their dad because of friends like you, Cami and her children didn't face the loss alone. Tunnel the Towers provided the family with a mortgage free home. You and other caring friends out there help Tunnel the Tower. Step in. Offer a ray of hope to Cammie, Maggie and Brody. Families like the Kennedys who have sacrificed so much for us and our nation need your help now more than ever. Join both of us in donating $11 a month to tunnel the towers. @t2t.org that's tthenumber2t.org news you can count on and some laughs too. Clay Travis at Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Buck Sexton]

Clay, have you heard of the Rio reset?

[Clay Travis]

Sounds like a trendy new workout buck.

[Buck Sexton]

It does, but it's actually a big summit going on in Brazil. The formal name is brics, which stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. But they've just added five new members.

[Clay Travis]

Smart move to stick with brics. We know what happens when acronyms don't end. They confuse everyone.

[Buck Sexton]

Well, that's an understatement. BRICS is a group of emerging economies hoping to increase their sway in the global financial order.

[Clay Travis]

Now that sounds like the plotline of a movie. I'm listening.

[Buck Sexton]

Philip Patrick is our Bruce Wayne. He's a precious metals specialist and a spokesman for the Birch Gold Group. He's on the ground in Rio getting the whole lowdown on what's going on there.

[Clay Travis]

Can he give us some inside intel?

[Buck Sexton]

Absolutely. He's been there since day one. In fact, a major theme at the summit is how BRICS nations aim to reduce reliance on the US dollar in global trade.

[Clay Travis]

Yikes. That doesn't sound good. We got to get Philip on the line, stat.

[Buck Sexton]

Already did. And he left the Clay and Buck audience this message. The world is moving on from the dollar.

[Clay Travis]

Quietly but steadily, these nations are making real progress towards reshaping global trade. And the US Dollar is no longer the centerpiece.

[Buck Sexton]

That shift doesn't happen overnight.

[Clay Travis]

But make no mistake, it's already begun.

[Buck Sexton]

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[Clay Travis]

Welcome back in Tuesday Edition. We hope all of you had fantastic Labor Day weekends. We are back rolling with all of you as we officially enter into the fall calendar season with a lot to discuss. Encourage you, as always, go subscribe to the show on YouTube. We are going to be putting more hours of the show up on YouTube in the months ahead and you are going to be able to keep up with us there. That will actually be a great way to keep track of the show, as will following us on basically any social media platform out there. You can find me, you can find Buck, you can find the Clay and Buck show. We are across the entire landscape. Um, and as we start off the third hour here, I do think looking at Chicago as an example of the Democrat Party having lost its way and Trump uniquely hitting on a story that intuitively is very positive, which is, I want to drive down the rate of violent crime across the country right now. Too many people are getting murdered, too many people are getting beaten up, too many people are getting carjacked, having their property stolen. All of this would be a really good resolution. Um, now, this morning, J.B. pritzker was walking and being interviewed during his walk. And he dodged a question about the extreme rate of violence that took place in Chicago over the weekend. This is cut 29.

[Buck Sexton]

You're going to hear people, especially this past weekend, 54 shot, seven dead.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah.

[Buck Sexton]

They're going to say the city's not safe. Would you ask your friends to ride.

[Clay Travis]

The L after midnight or after, you.

[Buck Sexton]

Know, nine o' clock at night, even to come down to the city from o'? Hare? Look, big cities have crime. There's no doubt about it. But let's just pay attention to what President Trump is doing targeting Chicago. He's overlooking red states that have much higher crime rates.

[Clay Travis]

Okay, this is a really bad argument. Now, if Pritzker wants to argue that in blue cities, in red states, there are also super high crime rates and the National Guard should be called in there, too. I echo it. Memphis, in my home state, I would welcome the National Guard. I think a lot of you listening in Kansas City or St. Louis or New Orleans would welcome the National Guard in your cities to drive down rates of violent crime. We're going to play a couple of other cuts. Brandon Johnson, the mayor. But Buck, this is an example of trying to make an argument that is very difficult and ultimately comes down to I'm concerned that Trump is exercising too much power in his effort to drive down violent crime in my community. That is effectively what Trump has got Democrats arguing.

[Buck Sexton]

It's, like I said, a win from both sides of the issue. As in, Trump is doing an objectively good thing. Right. Not even a politically good thing. An objectively good thing. And the politics of it are favorable to Trump because the Democrats are coming out and they just refuse to say what we all know. I mean, they refuse to see the reality, which is that it just. It really has to start from this premise. Clay of. It doesn't have to be this way. We don't actually have to have, you know, 500 murders a year in Chicago and five or six hundred murders a year in Philadelphia. And you look at some of the recent. Some of the recent tallies in these cities, it's just simply unacceptable. And it's year in and year out, this could be changed. Trump wants to change it. And, you know, you had the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, I mean, this is just the kind of stuff that you're gonna hear from some of these Democrats. He's saying he wants. This is on a Labor Day rally. He called on the citizens of Chicago to def. You know what? I want you to hear this. This is the mayor of our third largest city. Democrat, of course, play 26. Are you prepared to defend this land? This land that was built by slaves.

[Clay Travis]

A land that was built by indigenous people, a land that is built by workers?

[Buck Sexton]

Are you prepared to defend this land? The people united will always prevail. I need you all to stand firm, to stand strong if this president decides to continue to break this constitution. First of all, is he talking about Chicago? He's saying Chicago was built by indigenous people. It actually wasn't. It was a. It was a fort to fight against indigenous people. But that's a whole other thing.

[Clay Travis]

Not many slaves involved in the construction of Chicago. Yeah, just. Just do a little bit of basic historical research. Just going to toss it out there. Illinois, land of Lincoln, not exactly known for its huge embrace of slavery. And again, for the history nerds out there, most of Chicago burned down in the 1880s. So with the famous cow knocking over the. Knocking over the lantern, and the whole city basically burned down. So Chicago was, by and large, a city that was Built by free people, just FYI. So even the argument of this is stolen land and this is enslaved populace, it's just all bs.

[Buck Sexton]

And I believe that the derivation of the city of Chicago comes from an Algonquin word for an onion, like plant that is quite pungent. Chicaqua.

[Clay Travis]

I think that's actually correct.

[Buck Sexton]

Yes. So there you have it. So we named it for something that has indigenous roots, but it was not, in fact, built by indigenous people. But more to the point, defend your city against the National Guard. Who does he think the National Guard is comprised of? Pretty sure it's Americans, last I checked. And defend the city against them makes it sound like they're an invading force that's doing bad things to people. They would just be there to assist with law enforcement. I also, I see all these smug comments in the DC Context, even from commentators out there saying, you know, they're not even going into the most dangerous neighborhoods. They're there at. At, like, Union Station. There have been people shot within blocks of Union Station. Robbed at Union Station, shot in Union Station. This actually happens. And it just shows you these people have no idea who are making these comments, what they're. What they're talking about. But also, yeah, it turns out that when there are men and women who have, you know, M16s and who are there observing what's going on, people are less likely to pull out guns and shoot each other.

[Clay Travis]

Yeah, it's pretty.

[Buck Sexton]

Pretty understandable why they say halt, you know? You know, and they. They're calling the cops on. I don't think you want to open up with your pistol in the National Guard. There's a reason why bad guys don't want to do things in front of armed good guys. This is very straightforward.

[Clay Travis]

And also, even if you're not directly seeing the armed forces, the security apparatus, in the back of your mind, you're thinking they might be there. Because when you believe that there are consequences for crime, it makes a criminal take a pause and think, oh, maybe the risk of attempting this violent act, maybe the risk of attempting this criminal act is one there will be consequences for. And so there are less violent acts that actually are begun in the first place just by the idea of, hey, they might catch me. And this goes to nypd, Right? If you think I might do something that's not very significant, jump, say, the turnstile in a subway. If you think I might get caught for doing this, you're less likely to accelerate to some level of crime that is more significant.

[Buck Sexton]

This is why, when they were trying to get rid of the plainclothes. There was a high crime specific plane clothes unit in the nypd and this became a big political firestorm. It's. Yeah, because these guys are very. And girls are very useful because if you don't know that they. And the NYPD is very good at this, by the way, at having people who can blend in. If you don't know that that's a cop and you're doing something and you're breaking. But those, those, those plain clothes officers, if you don't break the law, they never. You don't even know they're there. They don't bother you. The point is they're there and it changes the calculation to your point, Clay, of the bad guys. I saw something here in Miami Beach, I gotta say, was very. Crockett and Tubbs, like, very. I was very impressed. It was a, I believe it was a Bentley that was actually an undercover cop car. So I've got to assume that it was seized probably in some kind of a drug bust or something. And they, but it had, it was a Bentley with the, with the, the bubble gum machine, as they call it, with the blue and red lights or whatever, and pulled somebody over in some kind of. And I was like, you wouldn't see that one coming. You know, you wouldn't usually think that was going to happen. So, you know, there's, there are ways to do this that make it very effective policing. But, but I also. If Brandon Johnson was a serious person, I mean, he's seriously dangerous to the city of Chicago with his policies. But if he was a serious person, he wouldn't say, Trump is evil. Let's just, let's just stop Trump. He would say, guys, I have a better way to bring the crime numbers down. The moment he starts talking about. And every Democrat in a major city starts talking about, they start babbling on about investment, they start babbling on about social workers. And it's just, it's just nonsense. It's unserious.

[Clay Travis]

This is why the data coming out of Washington, D.C. is so important. Because what it begs the question of is if Trump could drive down violent crime in D.C. by around 50% in the three weeks, plus that there have been the distribution of National Guard troops, the support added. How many people are you willing to let die because you're angry that Trump is trying to provide more security to.

[Buck Sexton]

Your city or that you're angry that Trump is the president? Let's just call it what it is. People are just saying they hate Trump. They're angry he's president and anything he does, they want to stop. Right. So it's just a continuation of that.

[Clay Travis]

Now, one of the challenges with lowering violent crime is you don't necessarily know what lives you save. There are kids, and I say kids because generally speaking, they're young. There are kids in school this week in Washington, D.C. that would be dead if Donald Trump had not brought the national guard into D.C. we don't know who those kids are, but they are alive today because he did that. That's what the data reflects. Seven people dead in Chicago. I give credit to that media member. 54 people shot over Labor Day weekend. And she asked a pretty basic question. What would you tell people who are afraid to get on a train from o' Hare to go into the city? And he immediately pivots to. Well, that's not the real question here. Make look at what Trump is trying to do. I mean, his argument, buck, was he's not going into red states with higher rates of crime. Well, first of all, red states, by and large, don't have higher rates of crime. Blue cities in red states, my home state of Tennessee is a great example. The crime rate in Memphis makes the crime rate in the whole state look huge. So if J.B. pritzker's argument, which begs the question for the follow up there is, hey, Trump needs to be going into more red state cities, which are, of course, blue driven. Aren't you actually endorsing that his policies make sense, like when you're shifting the argument to, well, why isn't he going to Memphis or why isn't he going to New Orleans or why isn't he going to Kansas City or St. Louis? You're actually just legitimizing the fact that it would be successful. And I give Trump that challenge. Why not do it? Let's do it everywhere. Let's see if we can drive down the rate of violent crime in the cities where violent crime is at the highest. All of whom have Democrat mayors.

[Buck Sexton]

And I don't want to divert us too much into this, but it's just a reminder, as I've said, they deployed the National Guard for Covid at airports and all kinds of public venues as if they were going to shoot the virus particles in the air. It was absurd. It was absurd. And they were. Democrats were fine with that, right? Oh, yeah. We need the National Guard. Checking your papers. Checking your papers, everyone, for Covid. That wasn't a police state. They said that wasn't a police state. But having National Guard in a federal province, which is D.C. there to just make sure you can walk down the street and not get shot or carjacked, that they have a problem. That's tyranny. Someone explain this to me, right? Like someone explain the logic behind this. And again, you've got two guys who have lived in D.C. we know stuff would happen in DC. I remember I had a friend who got, who got robbed at gunpoint and he was a DoD employee. And they were able to track. This is when we all had black or they all had black. Some of them had blackberries, like secure blackberries. And they were able to track the guy down because he had the, the BlackBerry that he was trying to sell. You know, like that would just happen though. You just get. Someone would pull a gun on you in the nicest neighborhoods of D.C. and everyone's like, oh yeah, it's D.C. this crazy town. What can you do? All right, look, when inflation jumps, you're reminded that our national debt is over $37 trillion. So here's a thought. Maybe now's a good time to buy some gold. Whether as a hedge against inflation or just smart long term diversification of your holdings. Birch Gold Group believes every American should own physical gold and they want to.

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[Clay Travis]

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[Buck Sexton]

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