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And President Trump suggested the standoff could open the door, he says, for big changes in the federal workforce. Senate lawmakers missed the deadline at midnight to approve a very simple budget for the fiscal year 2025, according now to FOX News, the short term funding extension that passed the House earlier in September, keeping the government running through November 21st. But bipartisan talks collapse when the Democrats said, no, we want to hold you hostage and we demand that you spend on things like health care for illegal immigrants. Now, in the hours leading up to the shutdown, President Trump made it very clear that while he did not want the government to close, he saw opportunities, quote, unquote, in the crisis, saying, quote, we don't want it to shut down because we have the greatest period of time ever. I tell you, we have 17 trillion being invested. So the last person that wanted to shut down is us. He then added, now, with that being said, we can do things during the shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them, referring to Democrats and irreversible by them, like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like. Referring to the Democrats now, Trump has repeatedly warned and pushed to reduce the size of government and slash federal programs. He says that waste your tax dollars. A shutdown does not grant new powers to the White House, but it does give the executive branch wide discretion over what services continue to operate. The standoff has turned into a battle of blame. Democrats going to TV saying this is all Trump's fault. But the problem is some Democrats didn't get the memo to lie. They told the truth, that they are, in fact shutting down the government. Democrats can accuse Republicans all they want of hijacking the process and falsely lying, claiming that they wanted to provide taxpayer funded health benefits only for Americans when it's in black and white. They wanted taxpayer funded health benefits for all illegal immigrants. Chuck Schumer said Tuesday, quote, they say that undocumented people are going to get these credits. That is absolutely false. This is one of the big lies that they're telling you. Well, you look at the Office of Budget Management and they made it very clear the Democrats are spending massive amounts of money if they got their way on illegal immigrant health care. Which brings me to Speaker Johnson on the government shutdown. Going back and reminding the American people of what really happened. Said the lies the Democrats and many in the media are telling. Take a listen to speaker on Fox News members then it's going to be hard to get this resolved. All along Republicans wanted to shut the government down. Well, we do have the House speaker with us here in the studio tonight. Let's welcome in Mike Johnson, Louisiana. Good to see you, sir. Thank you for taking the time. I know that you have been very busy today. Busy day. Those clips are hilarious to me. The House did its job. The House Republicans did our job. It's been over two weeks. We passed that continuing resolution. It's clean, it's simple. It's 24 pages in length. We were simply trying to buy time. And this is really important for everybody to remember. John, the reason we're doing this is that the appropriators are trying to rebuild the muscle memory to do appropriations to spend taxpayer dollars responsibly. And that takes 12 separate approach bills. We were doing that working through the process. We ran out of time. We need seven more weeks. So we put a clean CR on the, on the table assuming that everybody, all the Democrats would do the right thing. They've rejected it now three times. As of today, the Senate Democrats, 44 of them have voted that cr, the clean cr down and they proposed Chuck Schumer's version which is a dirty cr. Why do we say that? Because he wants to add $1.5 trillion in new spending to a seven week stopgap measure and they want to give health care to illegal aliens, claw back the funds that we put in for rural hospitals and all sorts of other mayhem. We can't do that. We're just not going to do it. You listen to Speaker Johnson. The House Republicans did our job passing the CR over two weeks ago simply trying to buy time. The appropriators are trying to rebuild the muscle memory to do appropriations to spend taxpayers dollars responsively instead of irrationally and radical, which is what the Democrats wanted. And here is what the speaker had to say about some of the money, including health care for illegals, that we're just not going to do it. So this is the real point of contention here. I mean, obviously they want to restore some of the cuts that were enacted in the big beautiful bill when it comes to Medicaid funding, etc. But Democrats insist our bill does not provide federal dollars for health care for illegal immigrants. And you say what? I say they obviously have not read their bill. This counter proposal that he filed, everybody can Google it. Go pull it up. It's on the Senate's website and in the legislative text. Go to page 57 of Chuck Schumer's bill and look at section 2141. It says right there in plain language they want to repeal the health provisions of the one big beautiful bill. I do, I do part ways with you here on this idea of plain language. I read that whole section. It might as well be written in Mandarin. And that's probably why the Democrats don't understand what they filed. 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Date: October 2, 2025
Hosts: Senator Ted Cruz & Ben Ferguson
Episode Focus: Breakdown and analysis of the 2025 partial government shutdown, with an emphasis on the political standoff between Democrats and Republicans over funding priorities, especially healthcare coverage for illegal immigrants.
The episode centers on the ongoing partial shutdown of the federal government, which the hosts argue was triggered by the Democrats’ refusal to accept a Republican-supported “clean” continuing resolution (CR) to maintain government funding. Senator Ted Cruz (via various quotes played by Ben Ferguson) and co-host Ben Ferguson frame the situation as Democrats “holding the government hostage” for left-leaning policies, particularly government-funded healthcare for illegal immigrants. The Republican leadership's strategic response and the projected impact—potentially as an opportunity for permanent government reforms—are key threads throughout the episode.
Ben Ferguson opens by characterizing the shutdown as a result of Democrats’ refusal to reach an agreement, focusing particularly on their insistence for healthcare benefits for illegal immigrants.
The hosts posit that the shutdown presents Donald Trump and the GOP an opportunity to enact permanent cuts to government spending and workforce.
“This shutdown could be a massive blessing in disguise for every American taxpayer.”
— Ben Ferguson (07:32)
The partial government shutdown started after Democrats blocked a short-term, “clean” funding extension (CR) proposed by the House.
Ferguson asserts that the Democrats’ real motivation is to push $1.5 trillion in new spending via Chuck Schumer’s Senate proposal, including healthcare for undocumented immigrants.
President Trump’s position is relayed: while he doesn’t want a shutdown, he sees possible “irreversible” positive changes in reducing government scope.
“We can do things during the shutdown that are irreversible… like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like.”
— Quoting President Trump (08:36)
Speaker Mike Johnson appears in an interview, emphasizing that House Republicans passed a clean CR over two weeks ago and sought only a short-term extension to ensure appropriations could proceed responsibly.
Johnson details Republican attempts at fiscal responsibility, while accusing Democrats, specifically Chuck Schumer, of blocking progress in order to force through additional “dirty” spending.
“The House Republicans did our job. We passed that continuing resolution. It’s clean; it’s simple; it’s 24 pages… [Democrats] want to add $1.5 trillion in new spending to a seven week stopgap...”
— Speaker Mike Johnson (14:15)
Johnson and Ferguson criticize the Democratic proposal as including hidden funding for healthcare for illegal immigrants, referencing page 57, Section 2141 of Schumer’s bill.
Johnson points to Republican-driven Medicaid reforms that, according to the Congressional Budget Office, would remove 2.3 million allegedly ineligible (including undocumented) recipients, saving $185 billion.
“Anybody who looks at it objectively has to say it’s true…”
— Speaker Johnson on health spending for illegals (20:10)
Ferguson offers historical perspective, noting that Republicans passed continuing resolutions 17 times under President Biden to prevent shutdowns, arguing GOP leadership has a record of keeping the government running to avoid economic harm.
Contrasts this with Democrats’ alleged willingness to force shutdown over their policy goals.
“Republicans understood that shutdowns are bad for the economy… [Democrats] shut down the government because President Trump and the Republicans will not force American taxpayers to pay for free healthcare for illegal aliens.”
— Ben Ferguson (22:35)
On the stakes of the shutdown:
“Trump is now signaling layoffs and spending cuts that could become permanent… this shutdown could be a massive blessing in disguise for every American taxpayer.”
– Ben Ferguson (07:25)
On clean vs. dirty CRs:
“We were simply trying to buy time... [Democrats] want to add $1.5 trillion in new spending and give health care to illegal aliens, claw back the funds we put in for rural hospitals and all sorts of other mayhem.”
– Speaker Mike Johnson (14:30–15:05)
On reading legislative language:
“I do part ways with you here on this idea of plain language. I read that whole section—it might as well be written in Mandarin. And that’s probably why the Democrats don’t understand what they filed.”
– Ben Ferguson (17:51)
On fiscal impact:
“The CBO… estimates that 2.3 million illegal recipients for Medicaid will be pushed off the rolls because of our reforms, and that’s going to save $185 billion of taxpayer funds.”
– Speaker Johnson (19:25)