BONUS POD: Trump’s July 4th Power Play w Bill Passage & Fed Pressure

Summary

Verdict with Ted Cruz: BONUS POD Episode Summary

Episode Title: Trump’s July 4th Power Play w Bill Passage & Fed Pressure
Release Date: July 3, 2025
Hosts: Senator Ted Cruz and Co-host Ben Ferguson
Sponsor: Jobs, Freedom, and Security PAC

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Introduction

In this bonus episode of "Verdict with Ted Cruz," hosts Senator Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson delve into two pivotal developments shaping the political landscape: the imminent passage of President Donald Trump’s significant legislative initiative and the escalating pressure on Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell. Skipping over advertisements and non-content segments, the discussion provides listeners with an in-depth analysis of these critical issues.

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1. The Imminent Passage of Trump’s "Big Beautiful Bill"

Timestamp: [02:42] – [06:44]

Senator Ted Cruz opens the conversation by highlighting the potential milestone of President Trump’s major legislative achievement, referred to as the "big beautiful bill." After successfully securing Senate approval following a marathon 27-hour amendment session, the bill now awaits House passage.

• House Passage Anticipation:
  Cruz mentions that as of his recording around 1 AM, sources close to Capitol Hill indicate that Speaker of the House Mike Johnson is optimistic about passing the bill within hours. Reporter Meredith Lee Hill of Politico confirms that the Speaker expects the House to act imminently, with Republican Representative Andy Harris suggesting a vote could occur the same day.

  “The House Speaker Mike Johnson had stated that the House of Representatives was going to get the bill there, quote, 'unquote tonight,' adding that they were working on it and very, very positive about the progress that's being made.”
  [04:15]

• Senate Victory and Tie-Breaking Vote:
  The hosts recall the Senate's narrow approval of the bill, secured by Vice President JD Vance’s decisive tie-breaking vote. This victory marks a significant campaign promise fulfilled by President Trump, setting the stage for the bill’s swift transition to enactment.

  “The President was thrilled to secure the Senate passage of the bill after that all nine amendment voterama and he was happy that Vice President JD Vance was able to cast that tie breaking vote in a victory for Trump.”
  [05:10]

• Implications for American Taxpayers:
  Cruz underscores the bill's potential benefits, emphasizing that its passage could deliver substantial financial advantages to American taxpayers, aligning with the administration’s America First agenda.

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2. President Trump’s Pressure on Fed Chair Jerome Powell

Timestamp: [06:44] – [12:27]

The second major topic revolves around President Trump’s intensified efforts to induce the resignation of Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, coupled with his advocacy for lower interest rates.

• Trump’s Call for Powell’s Resignation:
  Cruz details Trump’s public criticism of Powell, highlighting statements made on social media and through official channels urging immediate resignation.

  “Donald Trump posted... 'Jerome Powell and his entire board should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen in the United States of America.'”
  [07:30]

• Rationale Behind the Pressure:
  The administration argues that Powell and the Federal Reserve Board have failed to implement effective monetary policies, particularly regarding interest rates, which they claim cost Americans trillions in interest.

  “They have one of the easiest yet most prestigious jobs in America and they failed. And they continue to do so... We should be paying 1% interest or better.”
  [08:45]

• Potential Replacements for Powell:
  Cruz informs listeners about the possible successors to Powell, citing reports from the Wall Street Journal. Names mentioned include former Fed Governor Kevin Warsh, National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant, and former World Bank President Christopher Waller.

  “The Wall Street Journal reported... considering using the next expected Federal Reserve Board of Governors vacancy in early 2026 to appoint a successor.”
  [10:50]

• Legal and Structural Barriers:
  Despite Trump’s threats to dismiss Powell, a Supreme Court ruling in May clarified that the Federal Reserve is a quasi-private entity, limiting the President’s power to unilaterally remove the Fed Chair except in cases of malfeasance or misconduct.

  “A Supreme Court ruling in May, by the way, eased concerns that Trump could fire Powell, as the justice called the Fed 'a uniquely structured quasi-private entity.'”
  [11:30]

• Future Implications:
  Cruz concludes by discussing the broader implications of these developments, suggesting that the potential passage of the bill and the changes in the Federal Reserve leadership could significantly impact the U.S. economy, particularly in terms of interest rates and taxpayer savings.

  “If you want to know what's happening right now at the White House, it's pretty clear the President's getting ready for a very big Fourth of July celebration... He's also now looking to lower interest rates for you as well.”
  [12:00]

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Conclusion

In this episode, Senator Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson provide a comprehensive overview of two critical political maneuvers: the near-passage of President Trump’s significant legislation and the intensified push for a leadership change at the Federal Reserve. These developments not only signify major strides within the Republican agenda but also promise substantial economic ramifications for American citizens.

Listeners are left with a clear understanding of the current political dynamics and what they mean for the future of U.S. fiscal policy and economic stability.

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Good Thursday morning. So nice to have you with us on the 47 Morning Update. And here are the two big stories coming out of the White House that you need to know about. First up, as you're listening right now, it may have become a reality that the White House has got the passage of Trump's big beautiful bill and out of the House after getting a massive victory in the Senate. As I'm recording this at basically 1am right now, speaker of the House is saying we're looking to get it done within hours. We'll have the details on that for you as well. Now, the president isn't done there when it comes to helping you, the American taxpayer. We also now know the president saying it's time for the Fed chair, Jerome Powell to be gone to resign. And he's got two or three choices to replace the Fed chairman, which could save Americans literally trillions of dollars in interest. I'll give you those details in a moment. It's the 47 Morning Update and it starts right now. I just got off the phone moments ago with people on Capitol Hill who are telling me that by the time you hear this, there's a very good chance that the big beautiful bill will have already passed the House of Representatives. Now, I'm talking to you right now a little after midnight. And what I am being told is that the speaker says we're gonna get it done. And that means that President Donald Trump can do what he wanted to do, sign this by July 4th. The White House saying they're closing in on the House passage of Trump's big beautiful bill as well. At this hour, as I just spoke with someone within the White House staff that says we are very close to this becoming a reality. The White House indicating that it is making major progress, closing in on the president's top prayer priority and getting it, quote, to his desk by Independence Day. We also know that Representative Ralph Norman, a Republican from South Carolina, had suggested, quote, that the White House is making progress closing the deal on the Trump backed bill, saying, quote, the White House enlightened many Republican holdouts on how its implementation of the big beautiful bill would accomplish what they want, but wouldn't give specifics moving forward as they're trying to keep things quiet and not be fought within the media. Meredith Lee Hill, a congressional reporter also with Politico, is reporting the House Speaker Mike Johnson had stated that the House of Representatives was going to get the bill there, quote, unquote tonight, adding that they were working on it and very, very positive about the progress that's being made. Representative Andy Harris, a Republican from Maryland, also indicated that it was, quote, a possibility that the House would still vote today on the bill. That according to another congressional reporter for Punchbowl News. So you put all of this together and what the reality now is is that Trump could be within hours of having his big beautiful bill passed after he successfully secured the Senate passage of the bill on Tuesday after an all night amendment voterama, which lasted a record 27 hours, something we covered on the show as well yesterday. We know that the President was thrilled to secure the Senate passage of the bill after that all nine amendment voterama and he was happy that Vice President JD Vance was able to cast that tie breaking vote in a victory for Trump that was, well, so close but also so sweet and as good as it gets right now in Washington D.C. so here we are at After Midnight and the reality is President Donald Trump is delivering on his biggest campaign promise to date. We also know this, the President is also moving on to other major issues.

[Ben Ferguson]

Now story number two, Donald Trump is.

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Calling for the Fed chair Powell to quit immediately. Trump is ramping up the pressure on Powell, urging lower interest rates against the Federal Reserve Chair's continued opposition. The president making it clear that it's time for him to resign. In a true social post on Wednesday in the late afternoon, Trump said too late should resign immediately. He also linked to a Bloomberg story headline that says Fed chair should be investigated by Congress. The FHSA head is now saying Powell was nominated by Trump to lead the Fed during the first administration. Joe Biden, who succeeded Trump as president, nominated him for a second term. His tenure as the Fed chair is set to end May of 2026 and Trump is ramping up pressure saying I don't want to wait on Jerome Powell's tenure to end, issuing a call for lower interest rates against the Federal Reserve chair and continued opposition and calling out the failure of the Fed's monetary policy. For instance, earlier this week Donald Trump posted this Jerome too late. Powell and his entire board should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen in the United States of America. They have one of the easiest yet most prestigious jobs in America and they failed. And they continue to do so, saying this, if they were doing their job properly, our country would be saving trillions of dollars in interest costs. The board just sits there and watches so they are equally to blame. We should be paying 1% interest or better. The post preceded Trump signing a letter to Powell urging him to lower interest rates. The White House press secretary, Caroline Levitt told reporters on Monday. Powell stated that the Fed's decision to hold off on dropping your interest rates owes much to concern about the possible impacts of, quote, tariffs on inflation. That coming from CBS News. Now reports say he's waiting to see how the Trump tariff policy, quote, plays out and what it ultimately does to the U. S Economy before making interest rate adjustments. Powell has specifically said he wants to see longer term impacts, if any, on consumer pricing. So I tell you that story to just make it very clear there could be some big changes coming very soon. But it also tells you about the confidence that the president has that by the time many of you hear this, he will already have the biggest tax cut that we've seen in our lifetime and turning it into a reality. So what does that mean moving forward? Well, it means we could see some pretty big changes here. The president even moving forward to say there are, quote, two or three choices to replace the Fed chairman and saying on Tuesday, yes, I'm ready to go. When asked aboard Air Force One whether he has a top choice to succeed Jerome Powell, Trump said exactly this. I have two or three top choices. He declined to give any further information. Yet again showing how much Donald Trump's ready to move on. We also know that the Wall Street Journal reported last week that Trump is considering the former Fed governor Kevin Warsh and National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett as replacements. Also, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant is also being pitched as a potential candidate. That, according to the Wall Street Journal, which also listed former World bank president and Fed Governor Christopher Waller as potential nominees. According to the Wall Street Journal, Trump has toyed with the idea of selecting and announcing a replacement as early as September or October. However, Bessant told Bloomberg TV on Monday that the Trump administration is considering using the next expected Federal Reserve Board of Governors vacancy in early 2026 to appoint a successor. Now, since returning the White House in January, Trump has criticized Powell as well as other Fed governors for declining not to lower interest rates, which are currently in the 4.25 to 4.50 range. Fed chairs have long seen as insulated from presidential dismissal for reasons other than malfeasance or misconduct. But Trump has threatened to test the legal premise with frequent threats to fire Jerome Powell. Now, a Supreme Court ruling in May, by the way, eased concerns that Trump could fire Powell. As the justice called the Fed quote, a uniquely structured quasi private entity. So that leaves us at this point where the President's clearly saying he believes Jerome Powell and his board are the wrong people for the job and he wants to move as quickly as possible to move the country in the right direction. He also has made it clear that lower interest rates save you countless dollars in interest. Something that's good, he believes, for the economy. So if you want to know what's happening right now at the White House, it's pretty clear the President's getting ready for a very big Fourth of July celebration, and it's one that is going to give you a huge advantage in your pocketbook. And he's not done there. He's also now looking to lower interest rates for you as well. And that is exactly what the America first agenda that Donald Trump promised you looks like as we go into the 4th of July.

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