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Verdict with Ted Cruz
DNC Pipe-bomber ARRESTED, plus Three Days at the WH-Medals of Honor, Trump Accounts & Lowering Auto Prices
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Ben Ferguson
It is verdict with Center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you and it's so nice to have you with us. If you're listening on a radio station around the country, welcome. We do this show as a reminder, as a podcast as well. So you can grab that podcast three days a week, Monday, Wednesday and Friday, especially if you're listening to us on radio stations across the country center. We have got a lot to talk about in this show, including a major breakthrough in the pipe bomb case in.
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Senator Ted Cruz
D.C. well, after nearly five years, the pipe bomber, the alleged pipe bomber who planted pipe bombs at the DNC and the RNC on January 5, 2021, has been arrested. The FBI announced they've arrested him. The Department of Justice announced they've arrested him. His name is Brian J. Cole Jr. 30 years old of Woodridge, Virginia. He was arrested. The FBI laid out considerable evidence they have. It raises the immediate question, why the heck did this take five years to find this guy? Because the evidence they had, it sounds like they've had for a long, long time. Which, which, which obviously begs the question, what was the Biden Department of Justice doing that they were not arresting this guy? We're gonna break all that down for you. We're also gonna talk about three major events I had this week at the White House. Monday, I was at the White House where the President signed a bill, the Metal act, that I authored into law. Tuesday, I was at the White House where the President and I both were joined with Michael Dell, who gave six and a quarter billion dollars to kids of America to put into Trump accounts. It was incredible generosity. And then Wednesday, I was, I was at the White House with the President as he was announcing that he was zeroing out CAFE standards again. Legislation that I authored. We're going to tell you about all three of the CAFE standards are going to make cars and trucks cheaper for you and also save lives and make you safer. All of that we're covering in today's podcast.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, it's really incredible what the President did for Americans this week. Let me take a moment and tell you real quick about an amazing adventure that we're going to be going on. And I want to invite you to Operation Overlord, the D Day beaches. And you and I share a passion for history. So I hope you'll join me next spring on the D Day beaches in Normandy. That's right, the invasion that sealed Hitler's doom. Omaha and Utah, you're going to discover the sacred patch of sand. With me. 10 days in Europe, luxury hotels, and fully escorted by America's leading expert on France and the D Day invasion, Ken Chase, Paris and champagne country 57 57. And that includes your airfare. You're going to stand at General Patton's gravesite, Bastone Point du Hawk and Mulberry Harbor. Call my friends at Conservative Tours on your cell phone. Just dial pound 250 and say the keyword Conservative Tours. Or go to Conservative Tours.com an A rating with the BBB. All your sightseeing in Paris too. So call now on your cell phone, dial £250, say the keyword Conservative Tours. You'll have the option to receive a one time auto dialed text message from iheartmedia and I'll see you on the Shaz. So, Senator, let's go to this. It really is shocking that it took this long to find someone that planted pipe bombs in Washington D.C. it is very important that people understand this did not happen because of a new tip that came into the FBI or into law enforcement anywhere. This was just going back and looking at the evidence they already had and, and doing real police work to figure it out. It is shocking that the prior administration did not apparently think this was an important enough issue. And this administration did. And now we know who did it.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Yeah. The DOJ announced that that during 2019 and 2020, coal purchased multiple components consistent with those used to manufacture the pipe bombs at several retailers in Northern Virginia. So they have his purchase history. And at approximately 1pm on January 6, multiple law enforcement agencies received notice of the pipe bombs. At about 1:15pm the the second pipe bomb was reported. The first one at the RNC, the second one at the DNC. Video surveillance determined that this same individual placed the devices the evening of January 5th.
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On January 5th, about 7:10pm, Kohl's Nissan Sentra was observed driving past a license plate reader at the South Capitol street exit from I35 South. Which is less than a half mile from the location where the pipe bombs were.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Cell phone records further show that Cole's cell phone communicated with cell towers in the area of the RNC and DNC between 7:39pm and 8:24pm this evidence. There's no reason to think that this evidence wasn't in the possession of the FBI four and a half years ago. And it is infuriating. It raises a real question. What the hell was the Biden DOJ doing? Well, I'll tell you what they were doing. They were chasing down every little old lady who stood on the National Mall and saying God bless America. And they were persecuting them and trying to go after their political enemies instead of actually going after a violent criminal who planted pipe bombs that could have killed or injured a whole lot of people. You and I on this podcast repeatedly called on the Department of Justice, go and find and prosecute the pipe bomber. Now, look, at this point, we don't know full details about this individual, but. But he. He. He certainly does. Does not appear to be a Trump supporter, which is, of course not.
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Ben Ferguson
What.
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Senator Ted Cruz
What. Every reporter, what. Every. Every media outlet blamed it on Trump supporters, these pipe bombs. And based on the early information, there are no indications that he was a Trump supporter.
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Ben Ferguson
In fact, the early information is. And if it holds to be true, is a complete opposite of that, that this was a radical leftist.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Yeah, yeah. Now, now, it's still early, and so we'll find out more facts in the days going forward. But I want you to listen to Pam Bondi when she was announcing the.
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Pam Bondi
Arrest early this morning. Brian Cole Jr. Was arrested and charged with pleasant. Placing the pipe bombs at the RNC and the DNC on January 5, 2021. He has been charged with violating 18 USC 844, which is use of an explosive device. This investigation is ongoing. As we speak, search warrants are being executed, and there could be more charges to come. Today's arrest happened because the Trump administration has made this case a priority. The total lack of movement on this case, this cold case languished for four years until Director Patel and Deputy Director Bongino came to the FBI. The FBI, along with U.S. attorney Pirro and all of our prosecutors, have worked tirelessly for months, sifting through evidence that had been sitting at the FBI with the Biden administration for four long years. Let me be clear. There was no new tip, there was no new witness. Just good, diligent police work and prosecutorial work.
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Ben Ferguson
You listen to Pam Bonney there, Senator, and it is clear she's angry. And Americans should be angry. There was nothing new here. They just took what they had and did their job well.
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Senator Ted Cruz
And I'll tell you, Merrick Garland needs to be held accountable and answer the question why, if they had this evidence, this individual wasn't. Wasn't arrested and wasn't prosecuted. Chris Wray, the former Director of the FBI, needs to answer that same question, because it certainly appears that the Biden DOJ did not want to find this individual. It was not a priority. Uh, and, and, and when they were asked about it before, they would just throw up their hands and say, we're doing the best we can. It turns out when you actually have an Attorney general who, who is focused on going after the bad guys, that's exactly what you do.
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Ben Ferguson
Senator, I want to also just go back to echoing the part that you mentioned there about Pam Bondi. And she's angry. Damn. Bongino came out saying very much the same thing. And I. And I want to play it for everybody, because when he came out, not only was he saying, hey, I want to say thank you to everybody on this team, because this was teamwork, but this was also a moment where we just decided to do our jobs. And when you let law enforcement do their jobs, these are the types of results that you get. Take a listen to Bongino in his own words, folks.
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Dan Bongino
This is what it's like when you work for a president who tells you to go get the bad guys and stop focusing on other extraneous things not related to law enforcement. This is what happens. We had a great team. I know it said a lot in this business. It was a team effort. Becomes cliche. But cliches are useful for a reason, because they matter. And this was a team effort. The director and the Attorney General emphasized that. It was not a new public tip. This came from. This was our internal work at the FBI. And I want to just really express my sincere gratitude to this attorney General and this president for allowing us the latitude. I spoke with Ms. Bondi very early, when we maybe day two, and I said, we're gonna get this guy. And she said, yes, you are. And we did. I want to also thank. He's not here. But Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche, who we deal with often as well, who could not have been more supportive. Whatever process we need. Judge Jeanine Todd and Attorney General Bondi, they were there. All you had to do. They were a phone call away, and their team was amazing. We actually never had to make that phone call because they were always responsive. Thank you, Judge, as well. You were amazing. Folks, you're not going to walk into our capital city, put down two explosive devices and walk off in the sunset. Not going to happen. We were going to track this person to the end of the earth. There was no way he was getting away. Well, we didn't have to track him to the end of the earth. It wound up in Woodbridge, Virginia. I want to thank the team. They were amazing. They never let this go. Again. Attorney General Bondi, for your incredible support. Director Patel. Judge, I know they're giving me a lot of unnecessary credit, but make no mistake, they were intimately involved in this and were there for all of those supportive mechanisms. And I deeply appreciate it.
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Ben Ferguson
You listen there to not only the way that Pam Bonnie talked about it, but also Dan Bongino, and they are echoing the same thing. I think there's two points here that I want to get you to expand on. Number one, this is just letting law enforcement do their job and not do political operative jobs, which is what they clearly were being told to do after January 6th. Go find the grandmothers. Go find anybody was there. Find anybody that was associated with anything in and around the Capitol and then go hunt them down. Forget the actual terrorists, the guy making pipe bombs. But also, there's a teamwork here that I have not seen in a very long time in law enforcement. It's not conservative. It's just law enforcement working together. I love hearing that. It makes me feel as an American, that they're on my side, trying to keep me safe.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, this is law enforcement actually doing their jobs targeting violent criminals. This is the Department of Justice and the FBI. And if you look this past year under President Trump, DOJ and the FBI, they've been going after murderers and rapists and child molesters. They've been going after gang bangers and illegal aliens and human traffickers. They've been going after narco traffickers. I gotta say, if you're down in Venezuela and anyone asks you to drive a speedboat with. With some drugs in the back, you know, you may just call in sick that day because it doesn't turn out.
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Ben Ferguson
It's a fishing boat, Senator. Come on now. Don't you know you need seven engines and a whole lot of cocaine to do good fishing? Come on.
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Senator Ted Cruz
It is. They are systematically focused on violent criminals, including, as Dan Bongino just said, someone who planted two pipe bombs in the middle of Washington, D.C. that's what law enforcement is supposed to do. It's not supposed to do what it did under Biden, which is be a political arm to target and prosecute and persecute your political opponents. And look, Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and Dan Bongino all came in with a mission of restoring integrity to the Department of Justice and the FBI. I think today was an important step in that journey.
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Ben Ferguson
You know, there's a lot of good men and women that work at the FBI. And I think this is a perfect moment, Senator, where we should just highlight this. There are a lot of people that just want to do law enforcement. And what I do think you're now witnessing is the good men and women in uniform in multiple levels, whether it's local or state, whether it's dealing with illegal immigrants.
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Senator Ted Cruz
That's right. But listen, there were also too Many people who were politicized and who were obstructing justice, who were standing in the way. You know what, there are people who were at the FBI who were at DOJ who knew of this evidence and they didn't act. And I think we have every right to get answers to why didn't they act and was there a political or partisan agenda?
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Ben Ferguson
That was my question is there's good men and women that are now clearly getting to do their job. There's clearly was leadership and those that didn't want this job to be done. That's literally the question I was about to ask you. What does accountability look like now for those that may still be there, that obviously knew they had this information and they sat on it or deliberately said, don't go find this person.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, look, I'll tell you, one of the very first steps is, is, is they need to be brought in before Congress to answer questions under oath and answer questions under oath about why they didn't act on this evidence. Did they have it, when did they have it and why didn't they act. And I think that's stepped up.
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Ben Ferguson
That's what I want to know. I want to know if this was a straight up directive of, hey, leave this alone.
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Senator Ted Cruz
And by the way, the current DOJ and FBI, if they were directed not to act, and it is in writing, the current DOJ and FBI have that email or that memorandum. And I expect the DOJ and FBI to provide those to Congress, provide those to the public. What I've urged Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and Dan Bongino is radical transparency is the best cure for the politicization and the corruption we saw at DOJ and the FBI under Joe Biden.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, it's going to be very interesting to see what we get out of this. What I also say is this is exactly what I voted for. I wanted law enforcement to actually be winning again and do their job and not be politicized and not be weaponized for political reasons. I think there's so many Americans and I don't care if you're Republican or Democrat, you should sleep better.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Knowing this makes all of us safer.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, we're all safer. Like this was a pipe bomb at the Republican and Democratic Convention. You know, buildings, there's people that could have been there, that could have been killed of every party, every.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Locking up criminals. Locking up criminals protects our families. It keeps ourselves and our children safer. That is a very good thing. That is the President delivering on his.
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Ben Ferguson
U n D. All right, so center on Monday. I just want to make this very clear. You were at the White House. I didn't get invited. I didn't. But I thought Tuesday, I'd clear my schedule. No, no. Tuesday, I didn't get invited. And then I'm like, well, surely he's saving it for Wednesday, because Wednesday is going to be a better day. I'm still waiting. I'm still. Three days. Senator, you're there. Three days. I was sitting here just waiting for. Hey, Ben, you should come with me over here to the White House. You've been there before. It's a great place. We're going to celebrate America's work. Monday. Tuesday went like, how many days? If you go five days in a row, do I get the invite? I just got to know.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, look, I'm confident you were playing golf, and that's okay. That's. That. That. That. That's good for you to do. And you only have. You only have another couple of months that you can still beat your young sons, and they're going to be whip you up and down the golf course. But look, this. This was a busy week. This was a busy week. I had three different events at the White House. One on Monday, one on Tuesday, one on Wednesday. Each was a different major announcement. So it was a very productive week. Monday, it started out with the President signing into law the Metals Act. The Metals act is a bill that I wrote that deals with Medal of Honor recipients. Medal of Honor recipients are those service servicemen who have distinguished themselves with exceptional valor. There are only 61 living medal of Honor recipients. The vast majority of Medal of Honor recipients, they receive the medal posthumously. In most of the instances, they lose their lives demonstrating extraordinary heroism and bravery. Under existing law, Medal of Honor recipients receive a monthly stipend of $1,400 a month. That's not very much money.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
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Senator Ted Cruz
What's not all, what the Metals act did is essentially triple that amount. So it increased it from $1,400 a month to $5,600 a month.
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Ben Ferguson
That's incredible.
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Senator Ted Cruz
So I authored that legislation in the Senate. It passed the Senate unanimously. It passed the House unanimously. And then on Monday, the President signed it into law. We were joined by three Medal of Honor recipients who were there. And I'll tell you one of the reasons it's so meaningful a to say thank you. Thank you. To these incredible real life heroes. Amen. But, B, many of these Medal of Honor recipients take their time. They go around talking to schools, they go around talking, talking to civic gatherings. They inspire people. And that takes a lot of time. And this stipend gives, gives them an ability to have some basic modicum of income. And so I was really glad to see it took about two years to get this done, to build the bipartisan support to move it through Congress. The president has signed it, and we're now giving those Medal of Honor recipients the respect that they are due.
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Ben Ferguson
I gotta say, when you said it was unanimous, we haven't said that word on this show in years. That is really cool. It does give me just a little bit of hope that people realize that when you sacrifice the way these recipients do, you deserve to be taken care of afterwards as well.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, and when I passed it on the floor of the Senate, several of the Medal of Honor recipients had come to the Senate and they were sitting in the gallery watching it. And afterwards, we were down at the bottom of the Senate steps and a group of 8th graders, 8th grade kids came by. I think they were from Michigan, if I remember correctly. And they spotted me and some of them recognized me. And so they came up and wanted to take pictures and talk. And I told them, look, I'm happy to chat with you, but I said, I want to introduce you to these two gentlemen I'm standing with because both of them earned the Medal of Honor by risking their lives, nearly dying and saving the lives of their fellow servicemen and women. And I will tell you, Ben, the look of wonderment in these little boy and little girl's faces as they listen to these, these heroes tell their stories. It gave a great opportunity for me just to step back and recede and watch that moment. Inspiration right there at the base of the steps of the Senate.
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Ben Ferguson
That's incredible. And that was just Monday. So Tuesday you had this big victory on Monday. That's. That's bipartisan. What a great way to start the week. You rarely get to do that in your whole career. Tuesday, you're back at the White House. What happened then?
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Senator Ted Cruz
So Tuesday was a massive announcement. We've talked before about the Trump accounts. The Trump accounts is legislation that I authored. It was part of the one big, beautiful bill.
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Ben Ferguson
I want to remind people, and I do want to brag on you for a second, this could have been taken out of the big, beautiful bill. You felt so strongly about it, Senator. You did not let this get kicked out. You didn't let it Go. You fought tooth and nail and it was a hard fight. I want to also make that great clear. This was not an easy fight because you felt like this could be so transformative in one generation to building wealth for all Americans and giving kids an incredible opportunity to grow and to invest early on. There's so many things that hold people back from investing. I talked to one banker about this week. He said, you know, the number one reason why people don't invest when they're younger or when they don't feel like they make a lot of money, they're embarrassed to go in and open an account with a small amount of money. So they just don't do it. And he said, we believe. He said, I'm almost into my banking career. This could transform an entire nation in a generation into not being afraid to open account, but embracing it, watching it grow, having ownership of it, and seeing the power of compound interest. And I haven't seen bankers get giddy very often. This banker was genuinely giddy for the future kids.
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Senator Ted Cruz
And I'll tell you, Ben, it's not just compound interest, it's compound growth. Because these accounts will be invested in the s and P500, they're invested in the stock market, and every kid in America is going to become an owner of the biggest employers in America. That's transformative. That's making a whole new generation of capitalists. You know, at the White House on Tuesday, I told President Trump, I said, all of your credits, your critics will never give you credit. There is a good argument that you have done more for kids in America than any president in our lifetime. Why is that? Because he, number one, signed the school choice provision, which I had the great honor of writing and putting in the one big beautiful bill that will unleash tens of billions of dollars in scholarships for kids in K through 12 education all across the country. And number two, he signed it a law. The Trump accounts and that impact together. I think you could say there's never been a president that has impacted kids more. Here's how I explained it at the press conference with the president. Starting on July 4, every child in America will have a personal investment account opened for them. Newborn children will have it seeded with $1,000. Parents and family and employers can contribute up to 5,000 a year in a tax advantaged account. That money will be invested in the S&P 500 in the stock market. Broad based equity index account. Two massive benefits that change this country. Number one, every child in America will experience the benefits of compound growth. Take a Little girl born next year. She's born next year. She has the account opened for her. $1,000 is automatically seeded. Her parents, her family, or an employer puts 5,000 a year each year into that account. If you assume the historic rate of growth of the s and P500, which is 7% a year, by the time that little girl is 18, she will have $170,000 in that account. And if she keeps saving, by the time that little girl is 35, she will have $700,000 in that account. That is game changing. And we're not talking the children of Michael and Susan Dell, the children of Donald Trump, the children of people of great success. We're talking the kids of a single mom waiting tables, who could have $700,000 saved by the time she's 35 to get an education, to start a business, to buy a house that changes their whole lives. But the second benefit, and what I'm really excited about, is we are creating a new generation of capitalists. Every child in America is going to be an owner of the biggest employers in this country. We've all seen the sad statistics of how many kids are losing faith in capitalism. Well, ten years from now, a little boy is going to pull out his phone and he's going to look at his app and he's going to see his Trump account. And instead of thinking of big, bad, scary corporations, that little boy is going to say, I own 50 bucks of Apple, I own 100 bucks of Dell, I own 75 bucks of McDonald's. And every child is an owner of the biggest employers in this country that will transform this country. Mr. President, thank you for signing it.
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Ben Ferguson
You know, you just said something there at that speech. The White House said that I also think is incredible, the private sector getting in on this and wanting to see these accounts. Michael Dell, his wife there, they gave an incredible amount of money because they want kids to succeed.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, Michael and Susan Dell made an historic announcement. And the way I wrote the legislation creating the Trump accounts, it's designed to allow people, philanthropy to charity, to give into the accounts. And what Michael and Susan Dell announced at the White House on Tuesday is they were personally giving out of their own resources six and a quarter billion dollars. And what they're doing in particular is they're giving $250 for the 250th anniversary of America to every child in America under age 10 who lives in a zip code where the median income is $150,000 or less. And so it is a massive gift And I think Michael and Susan are just the first. I think you're going to see many other companies, many other individuals giving and giving early, allowing kids to begin accumulating assets and get them to grow. That is powerful and it is an accelerant. Mark my words, Ben, within a decade, we will have over a trillion dollars invested in these Trump accounts. And it's going to totally transform the future of our kids. It's a big, big deal.
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Ben Ferguson
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, that's exactly right. After spending Monday at the White House with the President while he was signing my legislation tripling the monthly stipend for Medal of Honor recipients. After spending Tuesday at the White House with the President and Michael and Susan Dell, giving six and a quarter billion dollars to the kids of America for Trump accounts. On Wednesday, I joined the President again, this time with the CEOs of the major auto companies in the United States as the President was implementing legislation, a provision again that I wrote zeroing out the CAFE standards. The CAFE standards were the federal mileage requirements that the Biden administration used to jack them up so high that it, number one, made cars much, much more expensive. But number two, it was part of their effort to eliminate the internal combustion engine, to force everyone to buy an electric car whether they want it or not. And as part of the one big beautiful Bill, we zeroed that out entirely. I wrote that provision and on Wednesday, the president was implementing it. Here. I want you to give a listen to the President describing the historic steps he took on Wednesday.
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Donald Trump
From day one, I've been taking action to make buying a car more affordable. I signed an executive order to end the unfair expensive electric vehicle mandate. As you know, we had to have an electric car within a very short period of time, even though you there was no way of charging them and lots of other things. It would have cost $5 trillion to build the charging plants. And as you know, in certain parts of the Midwest, they spent to build nine chargers. They spent $8 billion. So that wasn't working out too well. That was done before me, by the way. I wouldn't have let it go forward. We're canceling the EPA's absurd tailpipe emission standards. One of the most important things that I've never had a group of people come to me more.
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More powerfully and really just devastated that they had to do it. It was killing them than the automobile manufacturers, the tailpipe emission standards. And I can tell you, your people at Ford were coming to me all the time and they were saying, like, please, it doesn't do anything and it's killing us and it's driving the cost through the roof. And we revoked Biden's emissions waiver for California so that California communists could not regulate the automobile industry and ruin the entire nation of automobiles. And they were doing that too. But we have that now under control. Also with your governor, who's got much more than he can control now. Under the new rules being issued today by Secretary Duffy, the Department of Transportation will rescind the Biden fuel economy prices. And I hate to say that because they were really not economy. They were really, they were anti economy. They were horrible. What they were doing to the costs and actually making the car much worse. But these policies forced automakers to build cars using expensive technologies that drove up costs, drove up prices, and made the car much worse. The action is expected to save the typical consumer at least $1,000 off the price of a new car. And we think substantially more than that.
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Ben Ferguson
Senator, you hear him talk about this. This is exactly what I think. So many Americans voted for its government actually not mandating things. It's government getting out of the way of insane regulations to make your life easier. Just give me a little bit of my freedom back. Let the private sector do what the private sector does. Stop putting all this government agenda on top of me and let me do what I want to do. If I want to buy an ebay, I'll buy an ev, but don't force me to do something. And don't make these standards so insane that you raise the cost of cars a point where I can't even afford a new one.
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Senator Ted Cruz
It's your choice. It should be your choice. If you decide you want to go buy a Tesla. Tesla's are amazing automobiles. You can go do that. But if you decide you want to drive your F150, that ought to be your choice too. And this legislation and what the President did this week benefited consumers. Lowered prices made cars and trucks a lot cheaper. It also made them safer. It saved lives. It also helps produce jobs, thousands and thousands of jobs. As billions of dollars are being invested by car manufacturers in the United States. We're bringing blue collar jobs back to America. Ben, here's how, here's how I explained it in the Oval Office standing next to the President. Give a listen.
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Donald Trump
Anybody else want to say a few words? Oh, Ted, Ted, I can't believe I'm easy to miss. It's very rare that I would miss. Go ahead.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, Mr. President, I want to congratulate you on behalf of everyone here for the leadership that you're showing. And this is a victory today for consumers. This is a victory for affordability. Your critics like to say the word affordability. Under Joe Biden and the Democrats, they put mandate after mandate after mandate on cars and trucks and they drove the price up. Thousands and thousands of dollars. And with the actions you're taking today, and you put on top of that the one big beautiful bill, you know, most of the senators here on the Senate Commerce Committee and on the Commerce Committee, we worked together to zero out the CAFE standards. We wrote that in the law that the CAFE standards went to zero. What does that mean? It means you can now as a consumer buy the car you want. It also means people's lives will be safer because what these regulations did is they forced cars to be more expensive and made a plastic instead of steel because you had to make them lighter to comply with these standards. So you'd get in a wreck and people would die. The result of what you're doing, you're literally saving people's lives. And you're making it where families can afford to get a new car. These actions will drop the cost of cars and trucks. Thousands of dollars. That makes a real difference. And I'll make one final point. You know, about half the members here are car dealers. And I will say my good friend Roger Williams out In the lobby, he tried to sell me a car, which didn't surprise me. But I just, just want to give props to Mike Kelly. He showed he was savvier because he tried to sell you a car. And you can afford a much nicer car than I can. So well done, Mike. Roger, you just went to the wrong customer. I was a hundred dollar cheaper.
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Donald Trump
The thing that Ted just said, it's true. Plastic instead of steel. Think of that. And people died because of that. The plastic was plastic in an auto accident and it broke up and people were shattered because of that crazy deal. But that's, it's a really good point. Go ahead.
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Senator Ted Cruz
And Mr. President, I'll tell you, the Senate Commerce Committee on January 14th, we're going to have a hearing with all of the big three there and Tesla, Tesla. And the entire hearing is going to focus on how your leadership has reduced the burdens on carmakers. That's lowering costs, that's giving consumers more choices and it's producing more jobs in America. And it's highlighting. That's a real record of success.
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Ben Ferguson
Not only is it a record of success, but as you mentioned there and highlighted and the president agreed with you. It's an issue of safety, Senator.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, it's these CAFE standards were making cars much, much more dangerous. And we'll never know who, but, but there are people who will live now because of this change, because they'll be able to be in safer cars. Some of it is they may be able to afford a new car now because as this drives down the price of new cars and new trucks, they may sell their old used car and buy a new car because it makes it more affordable. New cars typically have more safety features and enhance their safety. But secondly, if you're not having to make these cars and remove all the steel, you're much more likely to survive an accident if you're in a car that has some weight, has some steel and doesn't just crumple up like, like, like a beer can.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah. It's a big victory at the White House for everybody in America three days in a row. By the way, we do the show three days in a row. So don't forget, download Verdict with Ted Cruz. Wherever you get your podcast, do not miss a single episode. It's always free. You can always tell Siri or Alexa, play Verdict with Ted Cruz. It will do it for you automatically. And the center and I will see you back here on the podcast this week and all you listen on the radio. Thanks for joining us as well. And we'll see you back here.
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