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Ted Cruz
Well, Listen, it is 11:14pm in Washington, D.C. and I got to say tonight was a terrible night for Republicans. It was a terrible night for conservatives and it was a terrible night for America. The damage in New York City, the damage in Virginia, the damage in New Jersey, the damage in California has been enormous. We're going to break down this really disappointing and dangerous electoral result that happened tonight. We're also going to talk about the fact that Ben is on the ground in Israel. What is he seeing? Who is he meeting with? What is the dynamic? Israel has just won a war. They have just defeated Iran in a 12 day war. They are still battling Hamas. There is an historic peace deal that President Trump has negotiated, but Hamas is resisting and violating the peace deal. We are going to talk about what Ben is seeing on the ground. All of that on today's verdict.
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Ted Cruz
So, Ben, have you been to Israel before or is this the first trip?
Ben Ferguson
This is my pilgrimage. Very first time ever.
Ted Cruz
Well, it is amazing. I have been a number of times to Israel and it is a breathtaking place. It is a place all of history converges on. It is the birthplace of Christianity. It is the birthplace of Judaism in Israel. In Jerusalem, you walk down roads, the City of David, which is this underground archaeological excavation under Jerusalem. You walk down the road from the Pool of Shiloh to the old temple where Jesus most certainly walked. And you walk along it, and there are platforms that a street preacher, an itinerant preacher, would stand and preach on. And you stand. I've stood on those platforms. And it takes your breath away that Jesus Christ almost certainly stood on this particular piece of stone, addressing the crowd of the Israelites who were there in Jerusalem, the Sea of Galilee. You look at, you imagine Jesus walking up to Peter, walking up to fishermen and saying, follow me and let me make you fishers of men. And not just. And it is. It's a beautiful place. It is a profound place. So tell me, when did you arrive and what have you done on the ground in Israel?
Ben Ferguson
So arrived on Monday after delayed flight, missed a flight because of actually the shutdown is what we were told. And then we had a timeout with the air traffic controllers and also the crew on the plane. So we sat on the tarmac for about five hours in Houston, and then they said, you got to get off the plane. We've lost our crew because of the rules. And this is a tsa. And it was at the very beginning of kind of the bridge.
Ted Cruz
And are you part of a broader group or like, what, what's the reason for going to Israel?
Ben Ferguson
Yes. So I was asked to come over from the Israeli government and also came with the CEO of ifcj, the International Fellowship of Christian Jews. There is a Christian Leadership Conference happening here as well at the same time. That is. It is one that's been postponed because the war is. And so I was asked to speak at that. This is a conference where Bibi is speaking, where you have the mayor of Jerusalem is speaking, you have the US Ambassador, Mike Huckabee as well. And it is bringing Christians together back to the Holy Land. But then what also has happened is they've set up these incredible moments and tours where I've been able to meet with some of the victims of the war and go and see where the war is taking place. So yesterday we actually went to the border with Syria and with Lebanon and went literally to where we could see Hezbollah looking at us.
Ted Cruz
And you met with the parents of the kids who were killed on the soccer field. Tell us about that.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah. So last night I have, and I will try not to get emotional, but it's hard not to. I was asked to come and to meet with the families, some of the families who. Children. There was 12 children that were killed while playing soccer on a soccer field. It made international news. We covered it on this show. And they asked me if I would meet with the families and hear the family stories. And I was there and the parents were talking of. This was one of the little girls, you can see, who died. And her mother was the first one to speak.
Ted Cruz
And what were the age of the kids?
Ben Ferguson
I want to tell the story. They were all different ages. They were very young to a 17 year old, if I remember correctly. Some of it was through translation. But you can kind of see the different ages here. Some of them are obviously, most were younger, but you can see there someone's a little bit older in junior high. You can see that's one of the oldest kids there. And that was, you know, it's incredible. But we sat There. And we were hearing their stories of these kids. And at the very end they said they'd like to present me with things. I didn't know they were going to do this. And I put the picture up on social media, but the mother of this young girl said that they wanted to give me something and I didn't see the ball before they brought it out. But these pictures on this ball so people understand they're stickers, they're handmade. And they said they wanted to say thank you for standing up for their kids and for telling their story to the world because they want people to understand what it's like to live in Israel and what was taken from them from the market.
Ted Cruz
These were children that were doing nothing. They were playing on a soccer field. They were being kids. And suddenly Hezbollah rocket came over and killed them all.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah. And it was a. The way that they described it was they didn't care who they killed. There was a lot of media spin that, well, this, this soccer field maybe wasn't directly target. Hezbollah doesn't care who they kill, they just want to kill Jews. One of the other things, and one.
Ted Cruz
Of the points, Ben, that's important with both Hezbollah and Hamas, most of the rockets they fire have no guidance systems. So they literally just fire a rocket in the air towards Israel filled with explosives, many times filled with, with anti personnel shrapnel, ball bearings and nails and screws and things that would rip human flesh apart. And they just fire them towards Israel because they figure, you know what, they're Jews over there, so let's just kill as many of them as we can. And whether it kills little kids, normally in the vast majority of the times, military targets are not the targets. It's just fire it towards Israel. And if we kill Jews, we celebrate. And that tragically, is what happened at that soccer field.
Ben Ferguson
It's exactly what happened. And not far from where that soccer field attack happened, we went to an orchard. What's one thing that you learn so much from being here? But there is a lot of farming that is done in Israel. Israel does an amazing job with water and turning saltwater into fresh water. It is what has kept this country alive and not dependent on others, especially in war. When people would shut off water to Israel, it's the desert. And what they've done is unbelievable. We talked about that, learned about that. But we went to basically a kibbutz. It's a neighborhood. And in that neighborhood, you know what they, you know what they.
Ted Cruz
In northern Israel, southern Israel, where's the.
Ben Ferguson
Kibbutz you went to the tip, northern, on the opposite side of where the attack happened. The initial attack happened on October.
Ted Cruz
Okay. So right by the Golan Heights border.
Ben Ferguson
With Lebanon and Hezboll. So if you're looking at the map, this would be in Syria, Hezbollah at the northern point. And they started us there because they said they wanted us to understand that the goal.
Ted Cruz
And by the way, for folks at.
Ben Ferguson
Home to understand from both sides, for.
Ted Cruz
Folks at home to understand. So Israel is a very small nation. It's about the size of the state of New Jersey.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
Ted Cruz
Where October 7th happened was in the southern part of Israel. It's right by the Gaza Strip. The Gaza Strip is along the Mediterranean in the southern part. And Hamas, which is the terrorist, major terrorist organization in the Gaza Strip, entered into southern Israel and murdered over 1200 Israelis, raped women and little girls, took over 200 Israelis hostage. It was also one of the worst American terrorist attacks ever, as we saw dozens of Americans murdered, dozens of Americans taken hostage. Now, northern Israel, which is up by Lebanon and Syria, what you have up there is Hezbollah. Hezbollah is a different terrorist organization. Both Hezbollah and Hamas, their patron is Iran. And Iran funds over 90% of Hamas's budget. Iran funds over 90% of Hezbollah's budget. When October 7 first erupted, Israel quite rightly declared, we are going to utterly destroy Hamas. There was an interesting period that extended for weeks and then even a couple of months where it wasn't clear if Hamas would be, or rather Hezbollah would be drawn into this. Hamas was the aggressor on October 7, and Hezbollah had the opportunity just to shut up and not engage. And then Hezbollah pretty quickly decided, nope, we want to raise our hand. We want to engage, and began just firing rockets, a massive barrage of rockets into Northern Israel.
Ben Ferguson
About 60% of all the rockets on hand that Hezbollah had in their arsenal were shot during this war.
Ted Cruz
Repeat that. That's a powerful statement.
Ben Ferguson
60%. And as we had our briefing from the Israeli government, we actually went to this neighborhood, this kibbutz. And in this neighborhood, their sin for being targeted by Hezbollah was that they farm pink lady apples that we eat in the United States of America.
Ted Cruz
And by the way, much of northern Israel was evacuated because the rocket attacks were so intense that the Israelis couldn't live there anymore because you couldn't go into your own home without risk of rock blowing it up. And so the amazing thing is Hezbollah literally volunteered and said, hey, we want to be part of this. And then the Israelis carried out the pager attack, which remains one of the most Extraordinary military and intelligence operations I think the world has ever seen. Where. I mean, I've joked, but this is not a joke. If you wrote the pager attack as a script to a movie, nobody in Hollywood would buy it. If you wrote it as a Jason Bourne movie, they'd say, this is ridiculous. You're telling me Israel creates a shell company in Hong Kong, builds pagers years in advance. Years in advance, makes them heavy duty, kind of serious, hardcore pagers and embeds where the battery would be a tiny little explosive, then gets this shell company in Hong Kong to sell the pagers to Hezbollah. Like, how the hell do you do that? I don't know how you sell pagers to Hezbollah, but the Mossad does, Israel does. Sells them to Hezbollah. And then this remains the single most targeted military and intelligence attack, I think, in history because it was Hezbollah leadership that decided, okay, who is it that gets these pagers? I'm going to give it to every crazy ass terrorist we have in Lebanon. The people that I want to be able to page and say, hey, would you go blow up a bus? Would you go blow up a mall? Would you go murder children? Take this pager. And then Israel, in a simultaneous moment, detonated all the pagers and took out every person that was injured, every person that was killed, with very minor exceptions of someone who was really close to a terrorist. They were personally selected by the leaders of Hezbollah. Hezbollah decided which terrorist died. And by the way, with within a day or two, there was a second operation where Hezbollah was using walkie talkies. Those blew up and also infiltrated.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, they blew those up as well.
Ted Cruz
Yeah. By the end of it, I think every Hezbollah terrorist, every Hamas terrorist, every Iran, IRGC terrorists, like, every time a phone rang, they jumped. It was extraordinary. And it was a response to so what? Hezbollah literally volunteered and said, we want to be decimated as bad as Hamas. And Israel said, well, happy to oblige.
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Ted Cruz
In broad daylight when several men broke.
Ben Ferguson
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Ted Cruz
It was all caught on video.
Ben Ferguson
So while sitting in her kitchen, the homeowner began hearing strange noises coming from the front door.
Ted Cruz
So she went to investigate and saw.
Ben Ferguson
That intruders had made it inside her home, at which point she yelled that she'd called police to try and scare them off. Now, fortunately, in this case, it worked, and they promptly exited the house.
Ted Cruz
And the victim and a neighbor actually.
Ben Ferguson
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Ted Cruz
While on the phone with 911, dispatchers.
Ben Ferguson
Told the homeowner that police were on their way. However, it ended up taking police over.
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Ben Ferguson
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Ted Cruz
You know, absolutely.
Ben Ferguson
In this case, she lucked out and.
Ted Cruz
She was able to call their bluff.
Ben Ferguson
And they ran off. But in many cases, that's not going to happen. Any kind of resistance has to be.
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Ted Cruz
Wow.
Ben Ferguson
And he was showing us his neighborhood, and he was talking about how I had to come back to tend the fields because this is my home. And I was literally under rocket barrage and would come to work knowing that Hezbollah was targeting the houses. And so finally, after a few days, that the homeowner said to the military, don't go back into my house, because as soon as you go in there, they blow up my home and everything is destroyed. We went into a home. The books of the children were still there. The stove was still there, the way it was set. That morning, one of the homeowners offered me a piece of a broken pot of their home and a burner of the stove and said, take it back. And a piece of their tile in their children's bathroom. I put it on my desk for the rest of my life. But to. To hear them talk about the brutality of Hezbollah, knowing that you're blowing up a farmer's home who has never bothered you in your entire life for sport. It was just for sport at that point. It wasn't killing a person. They knew that.
Ted Cruz
They were bilious hatred.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, just pure sport and hatred. Like, we're going to blow up your neighborhood because you are Jewish. We know you're not there. We know you have fled, but we want you to come back to destruction and ruins.
Ted Cruz
So you've been in northern Israel. Have you been in Tel Aviv? Have you been in Jerusalem? Where else have you been?
Ben Ferguson
So been in Tel Aviv as well, which is an incredible city. I didn't realize how much it's like New York City or a major city.
Ted Cruz
Yeah, it's a very modern city.
Ben Ferguson
It's a nightlife city. Thriving modern city. A lot of technology out of there that is actually exported to the rest of the world. It's incredible. The minds that are the brilliant minds that are working in Tel Aviv. I'm staying in Jerusalem. I do want to say one other.
Ted Cruz
Thing, is that where you are now is Jerusalem. Are you at the King David Hotel?
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, I'm in Jerusalem. I'm not the King David. I'm at the. It starts with an A. I can't remember the name. I'd have to look around the room and find it. But it's right at the entrance of the markets here, and it's a beautiful market that they have built this city to try to revive Jerusalem and make it even more for tourists. It's incredible. The people here are so kind. But one other thing I want to mention about this trip so far is I met with the mother of one of the hostages that was taken that became. Unfortunately, she became famous. If you remember the videos that came out, there is a girl that's been separated from her Boyfriend. She is in between two terrorists on a motorcycle and she's reaching out and screaming for her boyfriend, who is being held with his arms behind his back by two terrorists. And they're separating them. And that video just went viral early on in the. In the moments after he was held underground for two years without seeing sunlight and was starved. He was returned. They just reunited. You may have seen that video of them in the hospital finally getting to see each other again and hugging and falling backwards as they hug on the hospital bed. And the mother was telling the story of her son and the trauma, the way that they were mentally tortured and lied to, that there was destruction of all of Israel been destroyed, that we're told that their loved ones had been killed, their family members had been murdered, that no one had survived, that they were going to die, that they were going to dig their own graves. Some of them did to see the torment. And I think that's one of the things I will forever remember from this trip, and I'm grateful for it, is when we talk about what this is like the Psychological Warfare center and the evil of Hamas and Hezbollah has no ends. Whether it's blowing up farmers homes for sport, whether it is killing children. Is that the soccer ball and seeing these kids who were their only crime was being Jewish and playing sports. That's it. Look, this little girl's mother I met.
Ted Cruz
Psychedelics kill. Civilians are the embodiment of evil. And sadly, we live in a world where evil is plentiful.
Ben Ferguson
It's incredible. So today I'm going to be leaving with the government and going down to the site of the attack at the festival. And I'm going to be meeting with some of the hostages there. I'm going to hopefully tell those stories as well in one of our next episodes, because it's just telling their stories and letting people understand what happened that day and going to go to the kibbutz that were attacked there and tour the homes of the children that were murdered in their cribs. I'm going to meet with the families of the elderly that were killed, including Holocaust survivors. I met with some Holocaust survivors that are homeless in essence, and had to move to Jerusalem to survive the war. I met with them as well. Incredible story. So we'll have more of that, I promise you, coming up in other episodes. But I want to say to everyone that is listening, if you are a person of faith, the pilgrimage to come here and to see, I think, the hope of our faith and Christianity, to walk where Jesus walked, to walk where he carried the cross. I did that the first day I was here. And to be able to just see the Sea of Galilee and witness where so much of our biblical, 80% of the biblical history in the Bible with Jesus, I got to witness from standing in one place.
Ted Cruz
It's amazing to see.
Ben Ferguson
And it spread to the world where.
Ted Cruz
They believe Jesus was crucified, where they believe he was buried, and where he rose again in heaven.
Ben Ferguson
I got to go to the tomb. Yeah.
Ted Cruz
I mean, standing in the tomb, look, as a believer, it takes your breath away.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah. As I described it to family in a text, I said the level of feeling, I would say the Holy Spirit in these places is something I've never felt before. The second closest I've ever spelt to that type of spiritual gathering of Christians was honestly at Charlie Kirk's memorial. And it was incredible. Two of the biggest spiritual moments in my life have happened in the last 60 days. Both in a weird way around tragedy. Which also is why I think it's incredible when you're a Christian that you know that God is still a God of hope.
Ted Cruz
Amen.
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Ted Cruz
Let's talk about bad news here at home Tuesday.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, the election.
Ted Cruz
Really bad election. All right, so let's start. Let's start with Virginia. So, Virginia, we're sitting here. It's now 11:36pm on the East Coast. We have 95% of the vote in, and Abigail Spanberger, the Democrat, has 57.4% of the vote. Winsome Earl Seals has 42.4%. So it's at this moment, it is 1,905,452 votes to 1,408,220. And I will say, four years ago, Glenn Youngkin won. And it was a great moment for America. Glenn is a good friend. Virginia turned red in this race. Winsome and I went and helped do a fundraiser for Winsome a couple of weeks ago. Winsome is an African American woman. She's a strong conservative. She was an immigrant from Jamaica. She's a Marine veteran. She was a strong candidate. She was massively outspent. I think she was outspent more than 2 to 1, maybe even 3 to 1.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
Ted Cruz
That being said, you go back to the debate between Abigail Spanberger and Winsome Earl Sears. I've never seen a more lopsided debate. Abigail Spanberger stared ahead, refused to look at her. Like, you and I have both seen, I don't know, hundreds of political debates. A lot. I've never seen a political candidate refuse to make eye contact with their opponent. She literally. Her attitude was one of contempt, like you don't exist and you don't merit even my attention. And I gotta say, it makes me sad. Look, given the money differential, I'm not shocked that the Democrat won. We're Looking at right now a 15 point win. That is really, really bad news.
Ben Ferguson
It's also, I think one of the, one of the things that was the most shocking about Virginia as we break this down. I'm not surprised Democrats won there. I do think it was a left wing state. Youngkin, when he won, it was a perfect storm. You and I, I think, are the first to admit that. And I love doing the show with you.
Ted Cruz
And I campaigned for Glenn all over Virginia. I spent two days on the road with Glenn barnstorming the state. We won it four years ago. But, but this is a different environment.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, it was a perfect storm with.
Ted Cruz
And he was better funded than Huntstone.
Ben Ferguson
No doubt about it. But there was a perfect storm with the issue there with parents and rights and schools and the COVID up of.
Ted Cruz
Well, in Loudoun county. You're right.
Ben Ferguson
Ideology.
Ted Cruz
So it's worth remembering what happened in Loudoun county right before Glenn Youngkin's race where you had a teenage boy in high school who went into a girl's bathroom in high school. He was dressed as a girl, he was in a skirt and he sexually assaulted, he sexually assaulted a teenage girl. And the school covered it up, they hid it. And the father of the teenage girl went to the school board, confronted them and said, my daughter was raped in your school and you're not acknowledging this. And they yelled at him. They said, no, there has never been a boy dressed as a girl who sexually assaulted anyone. That was a lie, by the way. This, this same sexual offender was transferred to another school where he sexually assaulted another girl and did it again. Yeah, he did it again. But they ended up arresting the father of the girl, of the victim. And, and that moment was such a clarifying moment. You, you also had the, the, you know, Randy Weingarten, the head of the teachers unions, Campaigning with Terry McAuliffe, the Democrat nominee, where McAuliffe said, Your kids are not yours to educate. We're in charge of your kids. It was a perfect storm.
Ben Ferguson
In other words, the state's property. Youngkin as well.
Ted Cruz
Now, at the same time tonight. And we're now at 11:40pm 11:40pm with 94.6% of the votes in. Mikey Sherrill in New Jersey won 56.2% and Jack Cittarelli won 43.2%. So the, the, it's very, very similar. The vote totals are right now. 1,774,178 votes for Mikey Sherrill, the Democrat, and 1,365,952 for Jack Cittarelli, I got to admit, this is an even more surprising result for me than Virginia. Of the three major elections tonight, I was most optimistic about New Jersey. Cittarelli seemed momentum. There were a bunch of Democrat mayors and elected officials that were endorsing him. And you know, this is just that that's what a 13 point differential as we sit here tonight, that is a massive, massive loss. And what is disappointing is that's not just a loss in Virginia and New Jersey, but Virginia and New Jersey are historically the first off year election after a presidential election. They are frequently a canary in a coal mine. So you go back to after Obama was elected, you had Virginia and New Jersey both elected Republicans and it proved a forerunner of a great Republican victory coming. This ain't good. To have double digit losses in both New Jersey and Virginia is a really bad sign. If you're a Democrat tonight, you're thrilled, you're encouraged. And if you're a conservative, you're someone who loves America. This is a major warning sign.
Ben Ferguson
And I'll say this, it's a warning sign. But I also want to put it in perspective because these are states that are not Republican states.
Ted Cruz
True.
Ben Ferguson
So I do want to put that in perspective. I also want to say, and I want to give a little bit of hope here. The amount of money that came in and let's go back to Virginia for a second was astronomical. You had a candidate that won on the ballot in Virginia that had text messages, came out saying he wanted his political opponents to die, including their children, and said in those text messages that it's only when Republicans are basically murdered, their children are killed, that then they will move to our ideology. That is the same type of conversations that I've been having in Israel about what terrorists believe. And yet that person also won in that race. So I go back to Democrats are angry, they are mobilized right now. Mandani, for example, in New York, which we're gonna move to in a second and straight up communist is now gonna be running America's greatest city. He just wrapped up his speech there in New York City. But the amount of money that Democrats put into Virginia, which again is a Democrat state, we did not have a perfect storm on the issues this time like we did with Youngkin last time. I think Youngkin was a better candidate. I just want to be clear about that from a political perspective of which candidate was better. And Virginia, we had some momentum there. It's still a very liberal state. It is. New Jersey is a liberal state.
Ted Cruz
Yeah. But let Me say a couple of things. Number one, Virginia and New Jersey are both very liberal states. Virginia has a ton of government workers. In Northern Virginia, the Democrats have just caused the longest government shutdown in American history, and they nonetheless had an amazing victory. It was on purpose. So one of the things I said, the Democrats would not open the government before today because they believe the shutdown energizes their base. I predicted we'll see the government open either later this week or early next week. And yet apparently all of these government workers who are not getting paychecks, who haven't gotten paychecks for 35 days, they all voted left wing, they all voted Democrat. Even the folks that Chuck Schumer and the Democrats purposely shut down their jobs, that their ideology mattered more than their own home mortgage. And I gotta say, you understand.
Ben Ferguson
Let's also explain the political side of Virginia for people that don't live in D.C. or never have or never worked in D.C. so the majority of people that work in government in D.C. and that's a lot of employees. If you have kids, a lot of them don't live in D.C. district of Columbia is different housing, different schooling. The majority of my friends that work in politics in D.C. live in Virginia.
Ted Cruz
I don't know that I talk about the government jobs in the aggregate. I don't know that I would say the majority of the people, but a large percentage live in Northern Virginia, a large percentage live in Maryland, and a significant Percentage Live in D.C. want to.
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Ted Cruz
They're so partisan and they wanted the government.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, they wanted it.
Ted Cruz
They're just angry. And I want to say, I want to underscore something you said. Look, the governor's race is very disappointing. The one that is frankly shocking is the Virginia AG race. So Jay Jones, the Democrat, won. He won with 52.9%. He beat Jason Millers. Jason Meliora is the incumbent Republican. He's Cuban American. He got 46.7%. So it was as of right now, 1147, Jay Jones got 1,740,370 votes and Miyares got 1,533,841 votes. That is truly shocking because Jay Jones is the one who texted that he wanted to see the children of the Republican speaker of the House murdered. And it was at a time of political violence. This sick, depraved psychopath. And I'm sorry if you were wishing. And by the way, he knew those children, these were not abstract children. He knew his colleague. They were both serving the state legislature. He knew his colleague's children. And he said, I want to see them murdered. He also said he wanted to see his colleague murdered. And at the time of glorifying violence. And there was enormous discussion now, Abigail Spangberger refused to condemn him. And I will say the Democrats, the degree of message discipline. Not a single Democrat in Virginia that I'm aware of or nationally condemned Jay Jones for saying in writing he wanted to see the children of his political opponent murdered. Look, the Democrat Party, the message discipline. If he were a Republican, they would have thrown him overboard in a heartbeat. But the Democrats don't care.
Ben Ferguson
Yes.
Ted Cruz
They're just like, nope, we're on this team. Little bit of murder of children, doesn't matter. We're in support of it, I got to say. And there was a lot of polling. Look, win some Sears. The polling had shown for. For a fair amount of time that she was losing. Mayor is the polling had shown that he was winning. And so this is a surprising result that we're looking at a 5, 6 point victory. That means there are Democrats that do not care. I've got a candidate who wants children to be murdered. That's my guy. Like, wow, that is a depressing and sad statement of where we are as a country.
Ben Ferguson
It is. And if you go from that to New York City, which look, Mandani said in his speech moments ago, this is a clear victory for people wanting change. This race center was really about class warfare. It was about Robin Hood campaign. For him, it was straight up communism. I mean, the red apple is literally a communist apple. Now, a man that wants to take from the rich, give to the poor, push people out that are wealthy and successful, tax them into poor, into being poor, and run people out of the state that he says don't want to pay their fair share or that are fighting him. He's all about giving away free stuff, whether it's free busing or free food, free grocery store. Like this is full blown communism is what he's an advocate for. A guy that's never had a real job in his entire life. A guy that's a radical. His parents are radical as well. He won overwhelmingly in New York City. That is the biggest concern for me is that this cancer of socialism in the Democratic Party is spreading and I would say spreading rapidly to America's most biggest and most important financial city.
Ted Cruz
Look, Comrade Mondami is now the mayor of New York. That is incredibly distressing. This man is a communist and he is a jihadist. And those are not, I'm not using those as empty epithets explain the jihadist.
Ben Ferguson
Aspect so people know what you mean by that.
Ted Cruz
So listen, this is someone who is cheered for Hamas. He has called for the eradication of Israel. He is. He is an Islamist. He believes in political Islam. He had told the people of New York that police brutality in New York was trained and taught by the idf, the Israeli Defense Forces. That's psychotic. He is a communist. And I don't say that in the sense that like sometimes people say, oh, Democrats are all communists. No, no. This is someone that calls for seizing the means of production in society. He is an explicit. And this is something that's called the Red Green alliance, which is the alliance between jihadists and communists. And Mamdani is the intersection of both of them. There's some Republicans that are happy. They're like, okay, this is great. Will have great victories in 2026 and 2028 because they're such a whack job as mayor of New York that in every other state will be able to campaign against Comrade Mamdani. I am not celebrating. Look, New York, New York's not my favorite city in the world, but New York is a crown jewel of America. New York is the financial capital of the world. New York is the media capital of the world. By any measure, New York is one of the most important cities in America. And to have New York now governed by a radical communist jihadist, Let me tell you what's going to happen. More people are going to die in New York. Commoner Mondame is going to wage war against the nypd. I'm in New York quite a bit, I can tell you. I actually can't tell you how many New York cops have said they're terrified of what's going to happen if this guy wins. You're going to see the police.
Ben Ferguson
Well, he's made it clear in the past he wants to get rid of all police. He said he wants to abolish the police. He believes there should be no police force in New York City.
Ted Cruz
Look, there's going to be more murders in New York. There's going to be more rapes in New York. There are going to be more children attacked in New York. We're going to see more drugs with resources fleeing New York, coming to Florida, coming to Texas. And the Results as of 11:52pm, Mamdani 50.4%. Andrew Cuomo, who was the governor of New York, he's a Democrat. He's not like a right wing guy. He's Andrew friggin Cuomo, 41.6% and then Curtis Silva, 7.1%. Now, look, I would have liked to have seen Silva drop out to give Cuomo.
Ben Ferguson
Drop it on TV.
Ted Cruz
Yeah, to give Cuomo a better chance of winning. 7% is just a spoiler. But I'll tell you what's distressing. As of right now, even if Selwa dropped out, if you gave every bit 100% of Silwa's votes to Cuomo, and you wouldn't have. There's some people that would say, I'm not voting for Cuomo. But if you gave 100%, Cilwa, as of right now, had 146,127 votes. Cuomo had 854,783. If you add those two together, it's still less than what Mandani had of 1,035,646. So Mandami right now is at 50.4%, which means it didn't matter. A majority of New Yorkers wanted a communist jihadist. And I got to say, you know, a couple of days ago, like, we saw some Jewish rabbis in New York endorsing Mandami. I got to tell you, a buddy of mine I went to college with, very smart guy, brilliant guy. He was a college debater, actually, I debated with him. But he is a liberal Democrat. He is a Jewish New Yorker. I was in New York three, four weeks ago, and we spent about an hour sitting around a glass of scotch where he was explaining he had voted for Hamdaami. And I don't know what to say to that. Like, it is truly terrifying how this.
Ben Ferguson
Is where the Democratic Party is going.
Ted Cruz
This is the future of the Democrat Party. You might think, okay, that bodes well for America because the rest of the country will move in the direction of common sense. I gotta say, at least New Jersey and Virginia are not encouraging that regard.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, no doubt about it. Finally, want to get your quick thoughts? It is official. I'm looking at the numbers on the TV right now. California has passed Proposition 50. Tell people what that is quickly and your reaction to that.
Ted Cruz
So California wants to redistrict. They're going to redistrict to create five new Democrat seats. California is already one of the most heavily gerrymandered states in the country. I think 82, 83% of the seats are Democrat, even though only about 60% of the votes are Democrat. They're going to jack it up to over 90% democrat. They're just. They're trying to eliminate Republicans. They're telling Republicans in California, you have no voice. And this is an example. Democrats do not give a damn about democracy. This is all about power. Now, you're going to see other Republican states respond. You're going to see other Republican states redistrict. They claimed they were doing this in response to Texas, but Texas was went from about 63% Republicans to about 76% Republicans. Texas votes overwhelmingly Republican. So by any measure, even under the new map, Texas is markedly less gerrymandered than California used to be. And they decided 83% is not enough. We want to get north of 90. This is pure power. This shows Gavin Newsom has contempt for democracy and it is sadly typical of where Democrats are nationally.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, it is. It truly is. And they just said if you're a Republican in California, you have zero representation here. Get out. Leave this state and we will not listen to a word that you say. It's amazing. It is. Like you said, it was a rough night for Republicans. I say it again, putting it in perspective. These are all places that lean Democrat. They had a lot of money, they had a lot of momentum. They wanted to show some victories against Donald Trump. The government shutdown clearly had a big impact in the Virginia race there. And I'm still in shock by where we are in New York City with a full blown communist there. We're going to keep talking about it. We'll keep you informed. And also I will be giving you the stories coming up in two days about seeing where this massacre took place on the October 7th attack in Israel. And the victims I'm going to meet with will have all that for you on the next verdict. Also, this one is we're doing a dual podcast with my show, the Ben Ferguson Podcast as well. So hit that subscribe auto download button or share and I'll be back with you from Jerusalem in just two days. Senator, get some sleep. I'm awake and we'll see you soon. I'm Rodney Williams. And I'm Travis Holloway. Welcome to the Wealth Break podcast, a real conversation about finance. Let's be honest, building wealth doesn't look the same for everyone. I feel like sometimes being broke is.
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Date: November 5, 2025
Hosts: Senator Ted Cruz & Ben Ferguson
In a joint episode of "Verdict with Ted Cruz" and "The Ben Ferguson Podcast," Senator Ted Cruz and co-host Ben Ferguson deliver a candid and somber analysis of America's 2025 off-year elections, which saw devastating losses for Republicans across Virginia, New Jersey, and New York City, along with a lopsided redistricting victory for Democrats in California. Interwoven throughout the episode, Ferguson reports live from Jerusalem, sharing firsthand insights and deeply personal stories from his ongoing trip to Israel in the aftermath of the latest conflict with Iran and Hamas. The conversation offers a blend of political debrief and emotional reflection on the state of American and Israeli affairs, emphasizing the stakes for conservatives both domestically and abroad.
[02:47] Ted Cruz: “Tonight was a terrible night for Republicans. It was a terrible night for conservatives and it was a terrible night for America.”
[33:51] Cruz:
Ben Ferguson's First Pilgrimage to Israel
Meeting War Victims
[09:50] Ben Ferguson:
[11:28] Cruz:
Touring the North and South
[23:06] Ferguson:
Reflections on Faith
[26:33] Ferguson:
[33:51–36:40]
Winsome Earl Sears (R) loses to Abigail Spanberger (D) by 15 points in Governor race—worst than expected.
AG’s race “truly shocking”: Dem Jay Jones, who texted about wanting GOP opponents' children murdered, wins.
Loudoun County “perfect storm” background replayed—highlights swing back to Democrat normalcy.
[36:46–38:54]
[46:59–52:54]
[53:09] Ted Cruz:
The episode mixes sober, emotional reflection with political rhetoric and hard-edged analysis. Cruz is blunt and at times apocalyptic about the consequences for America’s future. Ferguson’s on-the-ground insights from Israel add a human and spiritual dimension, often solemn but occasionally hopeful, especially regarding faith and resilience.
This special episode swings between personal testimony from war-torn Israel and urgent American political analysis. Both hosts argue that the night’s election results signal a deep crisis for conservatism, warning of both domestic and global threats. Ferguson pledges continued coverage from Israel, promising firsthand stories in the upcoming days, while Cruz calls for sober reflection and renewed mobilization in the face of what they see as a challenging new era.