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Senator Ted Cruz
Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you and Senator, I got to tell you, victory is sweet. It's even more fun watching the media meltdown continue after they're having to deal with the reality that not only did Donald Trump win, we got the Senate, and it's clearly looking like we actually may make gains on the House side and they can't handle it. It's a total meltdown.
Ben Ferguson
Look, the corporate media are losing their minds. You know, there's a German word, schadenfreude, which is taking pleasure or joy from the suffering of others. It's not a pretty sentiment, but I gotta say, watching these hardcore leftists just scream out in agony that the voters voted and voted in a way they didn't like, it truly is. And you know what's striking? Their rage? Their anger. Not a one of them has actually learned a lesson. Not a one of them has paused to say, huh, maybe being radical leftist and opening up the border and threatening people's homes and screwing up the economy and driving up the cost of everything and screwing up the country and bringing the world to war and undermining Israel and creating an environment where antisemites take over college campuses and threaten our kids. Maybe that's a bad thing. Maybe having moms fear for the safety of their kids is a bad thing. None of these leftists are saying that. Instead they're just screaming orange man bad. Rawr. And it really is striking. Although we're going to wrap up by pointing out the one man in America on the Democrat side who is not sad and who is actually full of joy. And I'm not going to tell you his name, but it rhymes with Bo Jiden.
Senator Ted Cruz
Yeah, I've never seen a bigger grin on that man. And will change his name for a little bit ever. I think at any point, including even on days when he thought it was probably the best day of his life. It's going to be quite interesting to play some of these clips. We'll have that.
Ben Ferguson
So let me just say Joe Biden understands Shaden Freud as well.
Senator Ted Cruz
Yeah, I said it on election night. The only place more happier right now than the war room we were in was was the White House. And sitting there just going, you guys thought you'd be better without me. How you like me now? Yeah. Joe Biden grinning from ear to ear and having a very interesting press conference. We're going to dive into that in a moment. I can tell you this week I have been running on fumes. Actually, I've been running on a great cup of coffee, blackout coffee, election night. I think my, my, my monitor ring told me I got like two hours of sleep the day before that, three the day after about three. And thank goodness for a premium cup of blackout coffee. Not just in the morning, but in the afternoon and in the evenings. And if you have never tried blackout coffee, I want to save you money and I want you to try it and get the best cup of coffee of your life. Now the coffee space is filled with like woke liberal companies. And when I said that, you probably thought instantly of a couple of different name brands. Stop giving your mind to them and also drinking average coffee. Get a premium cup of coffee from blackout coffee. They are 100 committed conservative values from the sourcing of the beans, the roasting process, customer support, shipping. They embody true American values. And this is the other thing. They accept no compromise on taste or quality. So how do you try blackout coffee? Once you try them, you're not going to switch back. Go to blackoutcoffee.com verdict and use the coupon code verdict for 20% off your first order. That's blackout coffee.com verdict. Be awake not woke. Blackoutcoffee.com verdict. And you're gonna get the best cup of coffee of your Life. Promo code. Verdict, 20 off. All right, so, Senator, where do you want to start? Because the media meltdown has just been fun to watch. I've watched more MSNBC on purpose and CNN the last 48 hours than I have in a very long time. Because like you said a moment ago, they haven't learned from this loss. They're just crying and angry over this loss. But they didn't pay attention to the American people at all.
Ben Ferguson
No, not at all. Let's start with Morning Joe. Because Morning Joe is. It's a good place to start.
Senator Ted Cruz
It's.
Ben Ferguson
It's where lefties start their morning. So let's start there. Good.
Willie
I want to talk about economy for a second. A few weeks ago, three weeks ago, somebody who was going to be voting for Kamala Harris came up to me and said, oh, my God, Trump's going to win. I go, why is that? He goes, I just. I went to the grocery store, butters over $3. I kind of laughed and I said, I said, well, that's kind of reductive, isn't it? Said it to myself, to him. I smiled and I said, good point. But it actually, everything we're hearing after the election is.
Mika
It is the seven.
Willie
What's that?
Mika
The $7?
Willie
Butter is $7.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah.
Willie
What is it framed in gold.
Mika
Anyway, where you go.
Willie
Okay, well. Yeah, okay, well, anyway, my point is this, Willie. The rent is too damn high. And this guy was saying, the cost of butter is way damn too high.
Senator Ted Cruz
Yeah.
Willie
And so I thought it was a bit reductive. It ended up being just the point that if you look at the cost of groceries, if you look at the cost of grass, of gas, if you look at the cost of things compared to four years ago, it was a very simple answer. For working class Americans, things has cost too much.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, yeah. No question about it.
Senator Ted Cruz
By the seven, I mean, I love how the fact there, he's like, oh, wait, it's seven, it's $7. This is the elitism of the left. They have no idea what's happening in real Americ. And Mika's like, dude, it's not $3, not $4, not $5. I6 is $7 for butter. And he couldn't believe it. I'm like, if you guys would have figured that out before election day, maybe you wouldn't have sucked so bad.
Ben Ferguson
Okay, Ben, let me call a little BS on you.
Senator Ted Cruz
What? I can't wait.
Ben Ferguson
Do you have any idea how much butter costs?
Senator Ted Cruz
Oh, you have no idea, dude. I do a lot of the grocery shopping, okay?
Ben Ferguson
So I. In Casa Cruz, I am not the grocery shopper. Like, I just. That's, that's. There are things that are on my plate thing. Things that are on Heidi's plate. I am not the grocery shopper. Although I will say tonight I went and bought some cheddar cheese because Caroline decided to make back baked Mac and cheese. And so she sent me out to buy cheddar. So I bought cheddar. But if you asked me how much is butter, I would have no idea. And so I actually googled, I'm like, all right, $3, $7. Beats the hell out of me. So I googled how much is butter? And let me just tell you what Google said. So unsalted butter curbside at target is $4.29. Land O'Lakes half stick salted butter is $4.59. And then some weird ass thing called Kerrygold Pure Irish butter. How much think that is?
Senator Ted Cruz
I'm out and see Irish brother's next level. It tastes a lot better, by the way. I'm gonna. That, that stuff is legit. I'm gonna go eight, nine bucks.
Ben Ferguson
$135.
Senator Ted Cruz
Okay, that's. That's another level that I've never seen before.
Ben Ferguson
Like this, like coated in gold, maybe that like. And by the way, Dollar General Butter is $3. Now this may be in Houston. I don't know, maybe in D.C. it is seven. At Kroger Orlando Lake salted butter two pack is 9.99.
Senator Ted Cruz
So by the way, you need to try you some. If we're talking about butter here. If you've never tried Kerrygold butter on a bagel or toast. Oh my gosh. It is unbelievable.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, I. Look, I am not a terribly fancy. I'm not a cook and I'm not a terribly fancy eater, but.
Senator Ted Cruz
So you want to know the true reason why I do grocery shopping?
Ben Ferguson
Sure.
Senator Ted Cruz
It's maybe the first only time I'll ever throw my wife under the bus on the show. It's because I know how much money I save when I go to the grocery store instead of her going. Because when she goes, it's like the organic and all that stuff starts speaking to her and it's like, you know, chickens that were coddled for six months before they killed the chicken is like, you know, 8.99 a pound. And I'm like, I'm good with a 353.80 a four dollar a pound chicken. So I just go for economic reasons because I save so much money when I do shopping.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, look, I have to admit, when I do grocery shopping, I either buy junk or I buy fruit. I like fruit. So I'll go pick out fresh fruit and get, you know, grapes or cherries or nectarines. And so I'll buy fruit and then I'll buy junk. I'll buy things like, you know, lunchables, like the, you know, remember Heidi's vegetarian. So. So. So I'll get, you know, those things like the cracker and cheese and little. Little piece of ham or something.
Senator Ted Cruz
What if you're bachelor ing it up for. For everybody listening? And I think I know the answer to this. But if you're bachelor, if you're just you grocery store buying for you. What is that? Is it a lunchable or is it. I mean, because usually I remember can of soup.
Ben Ferguson
All right, so you've been to my apartment in D.C. it is literally a bachelor kitchen. Like, there's nothing in the kitchen. I may three week old leftovers with mold growing on them.
Senator Ted Cruz
He's lying, folks.
Ben Ferguson
Three bottles of beer. And that's pretty much like it's just an empty fridge. And so here, look at here at home, I'll have tortillas with melted cheese like that. That's my favorite late night snack is take a slice of cheese, throw it on a tortilla, nuke it for a minute, roll it up, and that I like. And then chunky soup, but I am not.
Senator Ted Cruz
Are you at least an heb tortilla guy? Because that's mandatory in our house.
Ben Ferguson
Oh, I'll eat any kind of tortilla Mission tortillas are good. Like heb what I like, I'm.
Senator Ted Cruz
You don't discriminate.
Ben Ferguson
I am not a food snob. It's. I actually, I like good food. I just like crappy food too. I'm like, just kind of across the board.
Senator Ted Cruz
See, my boys love it when. When the wife's out of town because we just go to the grocery store and I'm like, get whatever you want and we'll buy the frozen pizzas and we'll buy the like. Like you said, like the lunchables. Whatever it is. The toaster struts. I get it all boys. Mom's gone. Rules are off. We don't have to worry about.
Ben Ferguson
So today. Today for breakfast. Last lunch, I ordered on delivery breakfast tacos, and I had a chorizo, egg and cheese taco for lunch.
Senator Ted Cruz
I love it. That's American Dream right there.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, it's good stuff. But anyway, the point, it is kind of amusing, the back and forth between Joe and Micah and they're suddenly realizing, well, inflation is really bad. Now let's go, let, now let's go to the sort of bitter, bitter, angry leftists. And of course, by that I mean the View, which there is. There are no bit more bitter or no more angry leftists. Take a listen to the views explaining, paint the picture.
Senator Ted Cruz
They came out in all black the day after the election. Just so people know, if you don't watch the View like it was a funeral, they were wearing all black on the View.
Ben Ferguson
That's it.
Senator Ted Cruz
That's rich, right?
Ben Ferguson
They are rich and they hate, they hate average Americans. They look down on us. And here, listen. And I'm going to prove that that statement is not too extreme because you're going to see Sunny Hostin demonstrating just how much she despises average Americans.
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Ben Ferguson
These different demographics and these assumptions of where they're going to go. Latinos in Texas, a district that's 97% Latino, went 75 percentage points for Donald Trump.
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Why?
Sunny Hostin
Misogyny.
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No, it's on the border. The border crisis is on their doorstep and they were begging people to care.
Ben Ferguson
About it for years.
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Sunny Hostin
That's what that.
Ben Ferguson
Knock, knock. Who's there?
Sunny Hostin
Oh my gosh.
Senator Ted Cruz
It's whooping misogyny and sexism.
Ben Ferguson
And by the way, she's talking about South Texas. She's talking about Hispanics. And apparently, and it wasn't just Hispanic men that were voting for Donald Trump, it was Hispanic women too. So apparently Hispanic women are motivated by misogyny and sexism. They just don't like women. That's the only explanation. Not that having eleven and a half million people invade your state, invade your community, threaten your kids, not having 110,000 people die of fentanyl and drug overdoses. None of that. No, no, no. It's just you hate women. If you didn't vote for Kamala Harris, you've got to just, you got to say, you know what? I'm willing for my family to be sacrificed because I am a woke leftist. I mean, listen to the contempt that there's no part of Sonny that's trying to say, huh, an overwhelmingly Hispanic district went overwhelmingly for Trump. And by the way, in Texas, Trump carried Hispanics and I carried Hispanics. I carried Hispanics statewide by six points. And no part of Sonny could say, well, why is that? Is there maybe something about the current radical agenda of the left that is turning people off. Nope, nope. Apparently everyone's just a racist and a bigot. That's the only explanation possible.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Cocktail and it didn't get any better by the way, because if you move from sunny hosted, you go over to Rachel Maddow. She took a different approach and that was a tirade where she basically fear mongered what this country is turning into. It reminded me a lot of 2016, except there's more hatred for Trump now than there even was in 16. But take a listen to MSNBC's like obituary for America.
Mika
But now history doesn't end. Time doesn't stop. Now we have the benefit of knowing, you know, how this has gone in every other country that has been through a democracy to authoritarian transition. And sadly, there are a lot of them. We have the benefit of seeing what's happened in those other countries though. And what we know is that the more ground the authoritarian takes, the harder it is to ever get that ground back. And so the first order of business is to stop them from taking any uncontested ground right from the outset when it comes to what our system of government is and what our democracy is. Right. Mother country's experiences that quickly. I mean, now in the next few weeks, if not the next few days, they are going to start pushing to see how far the country is going to let them go without pushback, without protest. And part of this is because it's just psychologically advantageous for them to do this now, right? They're counting on the half the country that voted against them, the half the country that doesn't want to give up our system of government. They're counting on all those tens of millions of Americans to be despondent, to feel powerless, to check out. Which of course would mean letting them do what they want, letting them run the table. What they really don't want is for the half the country that voted against them, the half the country that wants to keep our democracy. What they really don't want is for those tens of millions of Americans to wake up tomorrow feeling scrappy as hell.
Senator Ted Cruz
So there's your pep talk, Senator. It's. It's there. We've got a tyrant and a dictator and half of America must not be silent, even though the majority of Americans, and I can't wait to throw this in liberals faces all the time. Donald Trump just won the popular vote too. So the majority of Americans said Donald Trump is who they want, not you, not Kamala Harris. And so you need to stop acting like the majority of the country was just disenfranchised. They were not. And the popular vote proves that.
Ben Ferguson
Ben, explain something to me. I at times have trouble understanding what passes for think processes among radical leftists. Rachel Maddow just said those Americans who want to save our democracy need to rage against how the damn people voted. Like, okay, wait, democracy. To quote Inigo Montoya, you keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. She's claiming to be a defender of democracy and her answer is screw the voters for voting for something I don't like. And I, Rachel Maddow, I the left. We should impose our views on you, whatever the voters say it doesn't matter, we're going to impose it. Why? Because we believe in democracy so much we want to ignore what the voters voted for.
Senator Ted Cruz
This is goes back to what the Democrats did in 2016 and at least they're consistent when they don't get their way. Now their job, they feel like their job is to okay, we just overthrow the will of the people we have a attempt against.
Ben Ferguson
Play the next, play the next Rachel Maddow clip.
Mika
Then the decisive result of this election gives us not just an answer to the question as to what Americans want to do along those lines gives us a really big to do list as Americans. If you are an American citizen who does not want to ashcan the American system of government, who doesn't want a strongman authoritarian system where the whole government is one guy and everything else just exists to serve him. If that is not the kind of country that you want, then yesterday's election means you have more to do for your country than you have ever done before. Because now is when the rubber really hits the road, right? We don't just flip a switch and the American system of government is gone. Democracy is gone. It doesn't work like that. I mean, not to be boring here for a second, but just getting very real. We now are just another one in the list of countries that has decided to, you know, hey, what the heck, let's try the strongman thing. Let's let democracy go. Let's put in an all powerful guy instead, see how it goes. There are many more countries in the world by that kind of a system than there are governed by ours. We are the only 248 year old multiracial, pluralistic democracy in the world. And shall we keep it? A lot of our fellow Americans say we shouldn't. Now we know, now we know for sure. But a lot of Americans, tens of millions of Americans say we should keep that system, which means time to fight for it. And yes, Americans did fight for it by working on this election, by trying to get the candidate elected who was both the Democrat and the small D Democrat, she didn't win. The strongman candidate won instead. But now history doesn't end, time doesn't stop. Now we have the benefit of knowing, you know, how this gone in every other country that has been through a democracy to authoritarian transition. And sadly there are a lot of them. We have the benefit of seeing what's happened in those other countries though. And what we know is that the more ground the authoritarian takes, the harder it is to ever get that ground back. And so the first order of business is to stop them from taking any uncontested ground right from the outset.
Senator Ted Cruz
I mean, what else can you say? These people are deranged at this point on the media.
Ben Ferguson
So Rachel Maddow just said that Americans just voted to end our, quote, multiracial, pluralistic democracy. Now, number one, the fact that they voted shows they didn't vote to end democracy. Now, technically speaking, we have a republic, not a democracy, but it is a democratic republic. It is a republic where the representatives are elected by the people. And in this case, the voters not only voted for Donald Trump, they voted for Republican senators. Not only to give Republicans a majority in the Senate, it looks like they voted for a majority in the House, too. And you know what the leftists hate? The fact that the people voted for a policy agenda that includes low taxes and low regulations and lots of jobs. That includes spending restraint and inflation under control. That includes the federal government not waging war on American energy production and driving up costs and driving up inflation. That includes securing the damn border and not allowing 11 and a half million people to invade this country, not making billions of dollars for Mexican drug cartels, not allowing children to be trafficked. It includes not losing 300,000 children, which is what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris has done. And by the way, when she's talking about, you know, we just voted to end a multiracial, pluralistic democracy. Well, just a minute ago, Sonny Hostin was saying, those damn Hispanics, how could they vote for this? Let's be clear, it doesn't matter if you're a white man or Hispanic or African American. If you don't vote the way leftists want you to, they hate you. I'll tell you, in Texas, in this last election, I want a majority of Hispanics. I won 20% of African American men in the state of Texas. Now, I wish that were 50% or higher, but 20% is a high water mark. And in Rachel Maddow's world, those people who voted for me, who voted for Donald Trump, they don't count as African Americans. It is truly, and let me make another point, they're going on and on about an authoritarian and authoritarian. Donald Trump was president for four years. He didn't do anything that was authoritarian. He followed the law. By the way, the reason we're going to get good laws passed is we didn't just elect Trump, we elected a Republican Senate, Republican House. So the Democratic system worked. And people said, we don't like your policies. We're Going to switch back to the ones we like. And the administration that has been dictatorial has been Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. You want to talk about authoritarian? Having a president say, I'm going to defy federal immigration laws and just let people go, that's authoritarian. It's lawless. Having an administration say, I'm going to give away a trillion dollars in a student loan giveaway, that is totally contrary to federal law. It has to be struck down by the. By the Supreme Court. That is authoritarian. Having an administration issue an edict, you must get a COVID vaccine or we will fire you. We will fire you from the military, we'll fire you from the federal government. We'll force your private employer to fire you. We don't care if you want to choose to get this vaccine or not. We will force it on you. By the way, that was struck down by the Supreme Court as well. You know what, you call all of that authoritarian. And the leftists, they never acknowledge a moment of that. And let me be clear, let's go back to the View. So, as you know, I've been on the View three times with my last several books. You know, the last book I wrote, Unwoke the View said, nope, we won't have you on. Because it went so badly for them. Because they can only sit there and lie when they don't actually face facts to the contrary. And so they want to live in an utterly fact free environment where they can lie to the American people.
Senator Ted Cruz
Yeah, they do it well. They do it well every day. And proof of it is how they've been acting since election day, which I think is the most surprising. But also for me, part of me just says, I'm kind of glad they don't get it. It's going to make it easier for us to win elections and move forward. Because it seems like they refused to admit when they lost, why they lost and how they lost and they didn't listen to the American people.
Ben Ferguson
All right, go back to the View. Play the next clip from Sonny again.
Sunny Hostin
And I'm profoundly disturbed that the 14th Amendment of the Constitution did not prevent someone who participated in an insurrection from becoming President of the United States. I think that going forward, the convicted felon box, unemployment applications better be taken off. Because if you can be the President of the United States, then you should not be prevented from employment in this. Because I remember applying for my jobs as a federal prosecutor and there was a box for convicted felons. Well, and so that box better be taken off. And I think our Health care system is now at risk. I think no fluoride for anyone. Yeah. Economists have made clear that he's going to increase the debt by $7.75 trillion. I'm worried about mass deportation and internment camps. And I'm also worried about Elon Musk warning Americans to prepare for temporary hardship.
Ben Ferguson
All right, so let's break several things down. First of all, saying take the felon box off of the job application. You know, the irony is there's only one reason that Trump is a convicted felon. Because her party, the radical left Democrats, abused the justice system to go after and try to subvert democracy. By the way, one of the great things, the Department of Justice is dismissing all those cases because now that he's wondering, the DOJ has a long standing rule that it won't prosecute and can't prosecute a sitting president. And it looks like all these cases are going to be thrown out. So understand, the only reason they can call him a convicted felon is because they were a bunch of authoritarian zealots who abused the justice system to try to stop the voters from doing what they just did on Tuesday. And then her comment, I'm worried about mass deportation and in tournament camps. Let's break that down one piece at a time. Mass deportation. Well, you know what? She should worry about that. If you're a drug trafficker, if you're a human trafficker, if you're a felon, if you're a murderer, if you're a rapist, we're going to find you, we're going to arrest you, we're going to get you out of this country, you're going to be deported. And I'm sorry, Sonny, that you are lamenting it. But I also feel confident that you have armed security protecting you at all time. And you're not worried about Venezuelan gangs taking over your apartment building because you don't actually live in an apartment building. The rest of America is going to feel a lot happier when we're deporting violent criminals that your party let in. And then in tournament camps. And let's break it into a couple of pieces. Number one, Benjamin, history quiz. Which president of the United States set up internment camps?
Senator Ted Cruz
I'm going to go with a Democrat. Is that a final answer? Can I put that in my jeopardy with all my money on it?
Ben Ferguson
Not only a Democrat, but, but the granddaddy of them all, the lion of the left, fdr, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who I'm pretty sure on the View if they reference fdr, that they Require Gregorian monks in the banks. Back to saying, but of course, they don't believe in monks either, so they wouldn't let that happen. But. But FDR set up internment camps for Japanese citizens. Wildly unconstitutional, wildly illegally illegal. Thankfully, we now recognize that as a grotesque abuse. But that's never been done by a Republican. Donald Trump was president. Were there any internment camps? No, but it doesn't stop the left from their fever dream. And by the way, you know what she really means is internment camps. She means detention facilities for illegal immigrants, which she'll call to tournament camps. And to be clear, Kamala Harris promised when she was running for president that on her first day she would shut down all the ICE detention camps. So a detention camp for someone who enters the country illegally is not an internment camp. What's the difference? All right, this is where hopefully verdict does some good. If you have a murderer and you convict him of murder and you send him to jail, is the jail an internment camp? No. Why? Because he's been convicted of a crime. If someone crosses into this country illegally and they are detained and they're detained in a detention facility, is that an internment camp? No. Why? Because the law provides you can't cross any legally and you can be detained for doing so while your deportation proceedings are pending. An internment camp. What FDR did is he rounded up Japanese citizens who had not broken any law. They were, they were American citizens of Japanese descent, so they were law abiding Americans living their life. And FDR said, if you're of Japanese descent, we're going to arrest you and throw you in a camp simply because you're Japanese. And we're in World War II and we're at war with Japan. That was grotesquely bigoted and it was directly contrary to the Constitution. You can't arrest someone who's a law abiding American citizen who hadn't broken the law. But of course, on the View, everything I just said, they don't have anyone who says that. Instead, they just nod vapidly and said, yes, he's an authoritarian. It's terrible. And they ignore that their party is the one who has been engaged in authoritarian lawlessness.
Senator Ted Cruz
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, look Unfortunately, I wish some Democrats would recognize we've gotten too extreme. Let's adjust. Let's move towards the middle. Let's find common ground that would be good for America. I don't think they're there yet. I think it is going to take a couple more, as you put it, good old fashioned ass whippings to let them change. And you mentioned California. Listen, California is going to play a pivotal role in ensuring that Republicans have the majority in the House of Representatives. And yet California Democrats. All right, I want you to listen to Eric Swalwell, who, you know, I mean, he really liked the folks on the View. He's just kind of a hard, angry leftist. But I want you to listen to his analysis of why the Democrats lost. People resent when you talk to them like you're trying to win a Harvard Law School moot court competition as opposed to just, you know, talking to somebody at a bar or at the bus stop. And I think we would be better served if we led with our personality rather than policy. And our personalities can reflect our values, our principles, what we care about. But too often we're just not plain spoken enough. And frankly, we're too nice and too modest and we stand on virtue.
Senator Ted Cruz
I mean, basically, if you didn't vote for us, you're all a bunch of deplorables, garbage Nazis. We hate you all and you're stupid.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah. I've got to say, when Eric Swalwell's diagnosis of the problem of Democrats is that they're, quote, too nice, too modest, and stand on virtue like that truly is disconnected from reality. This is while Kamala Harris is screaming Trump is Hitler. This is while leftists on TV are saying he's authoritarian and is going to set up internment camps. This is while Joe Biden is calling the people who voted for Trump garbage. This is while Mark Cuban is insulting every woman who voted for Donald Trump. And I love how he said, well, our problem is we're trying to win a Harvard moot court. Well, Eric, one of us has actually been in Harvard moot courts and one of us has won arguments before. And I will tell you, Kamala Harris has many problems, but being too much of an effective advocate in a Harvard moot court, that ain't one of them. That's not Kamala's problem, I can assure you. And in fact, the word salad, that was the special of the day from Kamala Harris, the reason she told the word salad is because your policies are indefensible. And my favorite part of that clip with Swalwell is he said, well, maybe we should stop talking about policies and just lead with our personalities. And I get it. If your policies are complete garbage, if they're failures, if they don't work for the American people, what else do you have other than to try to like, woo people with a bunch of smoke and mirrors and distraction. But no aspect of what he said there is any reflection of, gosh, maybe we got too extreme. No, instead he's saying we need to be even more extreme. And I gotta tell you, unfortunately, they're going to be more than a few leftists who react just like that.
Senator Ted Cruz
Even late night comedy. They were not funny. Stephen Colbert, he was angry and just frustrated. And here's what he said to America.
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Senator Ted Cruz
No, come on.
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Ben Ferguson
Right out of the gate.
Senator Ted Cruz
His definition of extraordinary in mind centered, very different. But I do think there's a bigger point, actually.
Ben Ferguson
To be fair, though, you would agree their campaign was extraordinary.
Senator Ted Cruz
It was extraordinary. It was extraordinarily bad. And thank them for doing it. That's true. Yes, it was extraordinary on that front.
Ben Ferguson
But there's common ground. You and Stephen Colbert on the same page.
Senator Ted Cruz
That's very true. So there's a, there's a bigger theme.
Ben Ferguson
Here, by the way. Tell me, Ben, like Stephen Colbert, have you ever dressed up as a giant Covid vaccination shot and danced around publicly?
Senator Ted Cruz
Yeah, no, never gonna happen. Never, never gonna happen. But this is the part that I grin about. I feel like we've actually broken the media now. And, and I got to give some credit to Elon Musk for doing this when he bought X and it started to change things. And people are actually able to get their views out there and not be silenced and censored the way that they were before. And what I think has happened now is if you are a conservative, even a moderate, being talked to by late night television in this way is the reason why I think they're actually putting themselves into irrelevancy.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, look, one of the things striking you look at Colbert when he's like complaining about the election result and all of his crowd is cheering with him, it's clear only leftists go to Stephen Colbert. Only leftists watch. When's the last time you watched Stephen Colbert?
Senator Ted Cruz
Just seriously, I, it's, I'm not kidding. Years.
Ben Ferguson
Years.
Senator Ted Cruz
And I used to love watching Leno and Letterman.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah, Leonard Leno and Letterman. I would watch all the time. Let Letterman's top 10 list and, and a real shift in late. I like comedy. I like late night comedy. I watch comedies. I've grown up on snl. I, I, I, I like good comedy. And by the way, I laugh at comedy. Making fun of Republicans. There's plenty to make fun of Republicans. If you have a good comedian, they ought to make fun of everybody. I mean, there's a lot to laugh at. And in the age of Trump, late night comics are just so consumed that they just give partisan rants. And by the way, one of the big shifts. So a decade ago it was a regular part of politics to go on late night shows. I've been on Stephen Colbert, I've been on Jimmy Kimmel, I've been on Fallon, I've been on Leno. It used to be a regular part. When is the last time you saw any Republican on late night shows?
Senator Ted Cruz
We're not welcome if you're fake Republican. If you're a Kinser.
Ben Ferguson
Oh, if you're Liz Cheney or Kinzinger. No, no, no, no. If you're, but, but an actual Republican, they simply do not have them on. And as a result they're infinitely less funny. And by the way, SNL did the same thing with Kamala Harris and Tim Kaine, they had both of them on, but not, not their Republican opponents. And then they got in trouble with the FCC because they were violating federal law and. All right, all right, Colbert is one thing, but I want you to listen to Jimmy Kimmel because again, I know Kimmel. I've, I've, you know, I've done his.
Senator Ted Cruz
Show Good old Texas. We're talking about ass woman's earlier you gave him a good old Texas ass whoop when you, not that long ago when you guys played basketball against each other. Let's just make sure we remember, remind the audience of that.
Ben Ferguson
I will never forget. So play Kimmel. This is his comedy monologue. Let's be honest. It was a terrible night last night. It was a terrible night for women, for children, for the hundreds of thousands of hardworking immigrants who make this country go, for healthcare, for our climate, for science, for journalism, for justice, for free speech. It was a terrible night for poor people, for the middle class, for seniors who rely on Social Security, for our allies in Ukraine, for NATO, for the troops.
Senator Ted Cruz
He's crying. And half of what he said, by the way, is just more than half.
Ben Ferguson
It was a terrible night for free speech. Like that's just hysterical. His side are these censoring. We will silence you, we will control you, we will ban you. It was like everything he said, it was a terrible night for women. Now to be clear, this is the same Jimmy Kimmel that used to co host the man show. And he would have women in bikinis jumping up on trampolines. So he's not exactly on the vanguard of women's rights. But Jimmy Kimmel no longer is a comedian. He's just an angry leftist. He's not quite as woke as Stephen Colbert, but he's like 1 1,000th away. And you know what? As a result, it's just not funny. And so I will say this. You mentioned my playing hoops with him. So back in 2018, I challenged him to one on one basketball. We played. It was terrible, terrible basketball. As ESPN broadcasted that night. If Dr. Naismith had seen what happened here today, he would have invented a different sport. But at the end of the day, my terrible basketball was slightly better than his terrible basketball. And I won 11 to nine, which forever and ever will be an ass kicking that Jimmy Kimmel has to live with. And as a result of it, I've lived rent free in his head for the last six years. And so he about once a month goes on a rant attacking me. And in fact, like when my last book, Unwoke, came out, he hired a drag queen to read excerpts of my book to five year olds, which was kind of bizarre. But I thanked him for helping me sell copies of the book. And then my standard response whenever he lashes out is, I have a video that we've compiled that we call buckets and blocks, and it consists of nothing but shots of me scoring on him and shots of me just swatting his shot back and actually fouling the hell out of him a whole lot. And so that's my response every time is, gosh, Jimmy, you seem angry, but it's really a shame that you're going to have to live with that loss forever.
Senator Ted Cruz
You know, one of the things that's also interesting about this conversation is the fact that Democrats who said, well, you know, we were trying to save democracy, we're screwed now, we got a dictator and tyrant coming in are actually the ones acting like that. Governor Newsom has already come out saying, I'm calling a special session to prep the battle against incoming Trump administration, calling it a special legislative session focused on potential state litigation against the Trump administration over issues that could impact his state.
Ben Ferguson
Look, they're going to resist on every front. They're going to fight because why? Because they hate democracy. That's the irony. They talk about democracy constantly, but what they mean of democracy is we will force you to obey us whether or not the voters want it. They don't actually want democracy. If they wanted democracy, they wouldn't have prosecuted Trump four different times because they would have trusted the voters. They like power and they mask their lust for power and calling it democracy. But I gotta say, there's at least one Democrat right now who is celebrating, who is smiling ear to ear, who may well be the happiest man in the world, and that would be Joseph Robinette Biden. He is joyful. And I'm going to wager you 20 bucks that Joe Biden and Jill Biden, they both pulled the lever for Donald Trump when they voted on Tuesday. I.
Senator Ted Cruz
It wouldn't surprise me because if you go back to this coup and to quickly remind people it was the, it was the Democratic mafia and the fam, the fa, the five families, it was the Schumer, Pelosi, Obama, Clinton's that were in this and Harris. Those five families had a coup. I think they probably threatened him with the 25th amendment. If you don't step aside, we're going to do this too, because we don't want to lose and we think we can win with Harris. And Joe Biden, I have not seen him have a bigger grin on his face when he did this Rose Garden conversation. Whatever you want to talk about.
Ben Ferguson
Well, look, the whole thing started. I mean, I think Biden found out about it when he woke up with his dog Major's head in his bed. And he was just screaming and screaming and screaming. And for those of y'all too young to get the reference, that's a reference to the Godfather, where the movie producer who refuses to cast a young Frank Sinatra has this prize racehorse that the Godfather decapitates and puts the horse's head in the bed. And it really was. It was the five families, they met and they said, Mr. Biden, your services are no longer needed. And you know what? I think Joe Biden is pissed. I don't think it's an accident that Joe Biden put on a MAGA hat in the middle of the election. And I do not think it is an accident that Jill Biden, when she went to vote dressed in all red. I think that was quite deliberate. But listen to Joe Biden. Listen to the joy that he is emanating today.
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Joe Biden
Yeah, it's good to see you all. Particularly good to see my granddaughter sitting in the front row here. I Finn, how are you honey? For over 200 years, America has carried on the greatest experiment in self government in the history of the world. That's not hyperbole, that's a fact. We're the people. The people vote and choose their own leaders and they do it peacefully. And we're in a democracy. The will of the people always prevails. Yesterday I spoke with President Elect Trump to congratulate him on his victory and I assured him that I'd direct my entire administration to work with his team to ensure a peaceful and orderly transition. That's what the American people deserve. Yesterday I also spoke with Vice President Harris. She's been a partner and a public servant. She ran an inspiring campaign and everyone got to see something that I learned early on to respect so much her character. She has a backbone like a ramrod. She has great character, true character. She gave her whole heart and effort and she and her entire team should be proud of the campaign they ran. You know, the struggle for the soul of America since our very founding has always been an ongoing debate and still vital today. I know for some people it's a time for victory, to state the obvious. For others it's a time of loss. Campaigns are contest of competing visions. A country chooses one or the other. We accept the choice the country made. I've said many times, you can't love your country only when you win. You can't love your neighbor only when you agree. Something I hope we can do no matter who you voted for, is see each other not as adversaries, but as fellow Americans. Bring down the temperature. I also hope we can later rest a question about the integrity of the American electoral system. It is honest, it is fair, and it is transparent. And it can be trusted, win or lose. I also hope we can restore the respect for all our election workers who busted their necks and took risks at the outset. We should thank them. Thank them for staffing voting sites, counting the votes, protecting the very integrity of the election. Many of them are volunteers who do it simply out of love for their country. And as they did, as they did their duty as citizens. I will do my duty as president. I'll fulfill my oath, and I will honor the Constitution. On January 20th, we'll have a peaceful transfer of power here in America. To all our incredible staff, supporters, cabinet members, all the people who've been hanging out with me for the last 40 years. God love you. As my mother would say. Thank you so much. You put so much into the past four years. I know it's a difficult time.
Senator Ted Cruz
I mean, this was a different Joe Biden. You could even say a joyous Joe Biden. He was not what you would normally think. And you gotta look at it and go, man, he was living it up on election night. Like, you guys threw me out. And guess what? You didn't get the prize after all.
Ben Ferguson
Yeah. And look, I am certain that Joe Biden looked at his family, looked at his top staff, and said, if it had been me, I'd have won. He believes it. He believes it through and through. And I don't think he will ever forgive Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama and Chuck Schumer for throwing him overboard, doing it unceremoniously and saying, we want Kamala instead. And look, we'll never know what that alternative reality would be. I mean, Biden's first debate was a disaster. That's undoubtedly true. But I will tell you, on election night, Biden did better everywhere than Kamala did. Like Kamala, or let me frame it in the obverse, Kamala did worse than Biden did everywhere. And Joe Biden, I think, is celebrating, and not even that quietly. And you know what? I'm celebrating, too, because it means the country. It's morning in America again, and we're turning the country around.
Senator Ted Cruz
No doubt about it. Don't forget, we do this show Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Hit that subscribe or auto download button. And thank you for sharing this podcast on social media to help other people find this podcast. So without you guys, we wouldn't be doing this thank you again for listening and sharing it. Grab my podcast on those in between days and I'll keep you updated as well on everything going on the Ben Ferguson Podcast. And Senator, I will see you back here Saturday for our week in review as well. See you then.
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Verdict with Ted Cruz
Episode: Media Weeps: Leftists in Angry Disbelief, ZERO Lessons to be Learned from Kamala's Crushing Loss
Release Date: November 8, 2024
Host: Senator Ted Cruz
Co-Host: Ben Ferguson
Timestamp: [01:31] - [05:52]
Senator Ted Cruz opens the episode by celebrating the Republican successes in the recent elections, highlighting Donald Trump's victory and gains in the Senate and House. He remarks, "Victory is sweet. It's even more fun watching the media meltdown continue after they're having to deal with the reality that not only did Donald Trump win, we got the Senate, and it's clearly looking like we actually may make gains on the House side and they can't handle it. It's a total meltdown." Ben Ferguson echoes this sentiment, emphasizing the corporate media's loss of composure and inability to adapt to the electoral outcome.
Timestamp: [05:52] - [09:12]
Ferguson criticizes the hardcore leftists' reaction to the election results, describing their response as one of "rage" and "anger" without genuine reflection or acknowledgment of policy failures. He states, "Not a one of them has actually learned a lesson... Instead they're just screaming orange man bad." The discussion shifts to everyday issues like rising butter prices to illustrate the disconnect between leftist rhetoric and real American concerns. Cruz adds humorously, "If you guys would have figured that out before election day, maybe you wouldn't have sucked so bad."
Timestamp: [12:06] - [14:48]
The conversation delves into specific media platforms, particularly "The View," showcasing how leftist hosts blame misogyny and sexism for their electoral losses without addressing substantive issues like border control or economic instability. Ferguson mocks Sunny Hostin's statements, highlighting the absurdity of attributing complex electoral outcomes to simplistic prejudices. Cruz reinforces this by pointing out the factual inaccuracies in the media's explanations, stating, "It is the seven... unsalted butter curbside at target is $4.29."
Timestamp: [16:46] - [22:49]
Senator Cruz and Ben Ferguson critique Rachel Maddow's portrayal of the election as a step towards authoritarianism. They argue that the Democrats are the ones exhibiting authoritarian tendencies by refusing to accept electoral losses and attempting to undermine the will of the voters. Cruz asserts, "Having an administration issue an edict, you must get a COVID vaccine or we will fire you... that was authoritarian." Ferguson adds, "If they wanted democracy, they wouldn't have prosecuted Trump four different times because they would have trusted the voters."
Timestamp: [37:56] - [43:54]
The hosts discuss how late-night comedians like Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel have shifted from humor to political rants, primarily targeting Republicans. Cruz shares personal anecdotes about basketball games with Kimmel and mockingly references Kimmel's criticisms of him, emphasizing the lack of balanced humor. Ferguson criticizes comedians for not holding Republicans accountable, stating, "Nothing is funny if they don't have Republicans to make fun of."
Timestamp: [20:09] - [26:50]
Ferguson challenges the left's claim of defending democracy by pointing out their actions undermining it. He references Micha's clip where democracy is equated with authoritarian obedience, arguing that true democracy respects the voters' choices. Cruz emphasizes the importance of adhering to democratic principles, saying, "Donald Trump was president for four years. He didn't do anything that was authoritarian. He followed the law."
Timestamp: [07:19] - [11:55]
Cruz and Ferguson share personal stories about grocery shopping and family dynamics to illustrate their points on economic issues and everyday struggles faced by Americans. Cruz humorously mentions, "It's the first and only time I'll ever throw my wife under the bus on the show," while Ferguson talks about his grocery habits, highlighting the simplicity of their lifestyles compared to leftist elites.
Timestamp: [34:46] - [35:59]
Ferguson expresses hope that the Democratic Party will recognize its extremism and shift towards the center to regain voter support. He criticizes Eric Swalwell's analysis of why Democrats lost, arguing that the real issue is the party's disconnect with the average American. Cruz concurs, noting the Democrats' lack of self-awareness as a potential downfall.
Timestamp: [31:41] - [49:04]
In a surprising turn, Cruz discusses Joseph Biden's seemingly positive demeanor despite the election loss. He sarcastically attributes Biden's joy to a coup orchestrated by powerful Democratic figures, suggesting internal conflicts within the party. Ferguson humorously references Biden's MAGA hat and Jill Biden's red attire as deliberate symbols of celebration.
Senator Ted Cruz
[01:31]: "Victory is sweet. It's even more fun watching the media meltdown continue..."
[16:46]: "Having an administration issue an edict, you must get a COVID vaccine or we will fire you... that was authoritarian."
Ben Ferguson
[05:52]: "No, not at all. Let's start with Morning Joe..."
[26:27]: "Rachel Maddow just said that Americans just voted to end our, quote, multiracial, pluralistic democracy."
Sunny Hostin ("The View" Clip)
[26:54]: "And I'm profoundly disturbed that the 14th Amendment of the Constitution did not prevent someone who participated in an insurrection from becoming President of the United States."
Throughout the episode, Senator Ted Cruz and Ben Ferguson offer a scathing critique of the media's reaction to the Republican electoral victories, highlighting the left's inability to introspect and adapt. They dissect the narratives pushed by media figures like Rachel Maddow and "The View," arguing that the Democrats are undermining democratic principles by ignoring voter mandates and promoting authoritarian agendas. The hosts blend humor with sharp political analysis, providing listeners with a perspective that champions conservative values and criticizes leftist strategies.
This summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from the "Verdict with Ted Cruz" episode titled "Media Weeps: Leftists in Angry Disbelief, ZERO Lessons to be Learned from Kamala's Crushing Loss," released on November 8, 2024.