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Verdict with Ted Cruz
No Man Left Behind Morale Booster, Pentagon Manual Wrecks the Left’s Talking Point & Temporary Protected Status Equals Permanent Consequences Week In Review
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Ted Cruz
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Senator Ted Cruz
the
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Jeh Johnson
wrongs we must right. The fights we must win. The future we must secure together for our nation. This is what's in front of us. This determines what's next for all of us. We are Marines. We were made for this.
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Ted Cruz
Welcome it is Verdict with Ted Cruz. We can review Ben Ferguson with you and hear the big stories that we talked about this week that you may have missed. First up, it was an incredible morale booster for the American military and their capabilities to rescue the two down pilots in Iran. What went into all of it? We explain it. Second up, Democrats accused Donald Trump of war crimes. If he does something they say he's not allowed to do, we'll explain that. And finally, yet again, another illegal alien led into this country in the Biden administration commits a violent murder and will it ever stop? It's the weekend review and it starts right now. You know, several people that I talked to that are in the military over the last couple of days, they were really worried about the, the airman who has gone missing because they were like they knew it was going to happen to him. If he was caught by the irgc, by these militias, he was a dead man. And they were going to do it in a horrific way and probably film it and put it out there as propaganda to the world.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, yeah.
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Ted Cruz
And that was what they were all concerned with. They also said to me in text messages on Easter Sunday, I want you to understand, they said, the morale booster of seeing that you have a commander in chief who says, I do not care what it costs.
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Ben Ferguson
I do. Go now. Get him. Go get him.
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Ted Cruz
Go get him and, and use everything, stop everything and use everything to go get one man. And then we'll go back to what we're doing. But whatever it takes, there is nothing I'm going to say no to. And they said, they said to me, they said, ben, it's been a long time since men and women in uniform have felt that they have a commander in chief who truly has their back in this way. One of the things they said that was, I also thought was very interesting and I'm going to look it up now. So you looked up saying earlier, but it was a quote, and I want to quote this because it was so. It was so important what this individual said that serving his country said, you know, go look at the comparison to Bill Clinton and what he did with American troops in Somalia. So look at Barack Obama and what he did with Americans in Libya. Look at Joe Biden, who abandoned 13 U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan. Trump moved mountains to rescue one American in Iran. One American. And if you're an American soldier right now, how fired up are you to serve Donald Trump knowing he's genuinely got your back?
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Ben Ferguson
Well, let me be clear. You're serving the United States, you're not serving Donald Trump. But agree, your commander in chief has your back, and that's a powerful thing. And by the way, it's not just you and me saying that. It's also Barack Obama's former Secretary of Homeland Security. Listen to Jeh Johnson talking about this incredible rescue,
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Jeh Johnson
this, this operation for the first pilot and the second pilot, remarkable exercise, demonstration of US Military courage, technology, power. I would encourage the President and the Secretary of Defense, consistent with operational security, share as much of that with the American public so that the American public can appreciate what goes into this kind of operation is more complicated than the bin Laden operation, for example. Wow.
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Ted Cruz
I'm not sure any of that that's coming from Jeh Johnson. That's pretty incredible.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, it is. And I want to drill down a little bit more on what this does for the fighting spirit and the morale of the entire military. And actually a different tweet, but I thought very profound as well, from a fellow named John Conrad on X. Here's what he said. This is why Americans are the deadliest fighters on Earth. I met a priest yesterday who just got Accepted to chaplain school in Newport. I asked him the obvious question. Marines or Navy? Navy, said. His face fell a little. He told me he could never be a Marine because every Marine is a rifleman and as a priest he can't carry a weapon. He's hoping to get assigned to a Marine unit anyway. All chaplains are Navy officers, so that's the only door in. I laughed. I feel a little bad about that. Then I explained to him what devil doc means. The Marine Corps doesn't have medics. They use Navy corpsmen. I told him, when you get out to the fleet, find a Marine sergeant with a couple of Purple Hearts and tell him devil docs aren't real Marines. Be prepared to duck. Marines are violently particular about who gets to wear their uniform. Navy corpsmen and Navy chaplains who have eaten dirt alongside them in combat qualify, full stop. My dad was Air Force, not even Navy. I remember going to VFW halls with him as a kid. Someone would ask him what service. He'd say, air Force. And the room would chuckle a little. And then they'd find out he was a medic. And the air in the room changed something close to reverence. Dad hated being honored. He had one line he used to deflect it. I didn't do much savior praise for my cousin, the PJ that always broke the ice. PJs are the air Force special operators who go into hell to pull downed pilots out. They will take casualties and are prepared to die to rescue a single pilot or crewman. The math doesn't math out. Why would any combat force take multiple casualties to rescue one Air Force jet jockey? What the padre is about to learn is that the military has a hierarchy that has nothing to do with rank and nothing to do with the service stitched on your chest. Have you deployed? Have you seen combat? In every firefight, there are men who move towards the guns and men who hang back. And when the guy at the tip of the spear is pinned down, bleeding with rounds cracking past his head, there is exactly one word he screams into the radio. Medic. Yep, here's the catch. And it is the whole reason America fights the way America fights. That Marine is willing to push forward into fire because he knows the corpsman is coming. He knows the medevac birds will land in the hot lz. He knows the devil doc will drag him out by his plate carrier if it comes to that. And if the medic can't help, he has what dad called injuries incompatible with life. He knows that chaplain will crawl on his belly to administer last rites and deliver him to heaven. The F15 pilot punching out over enemy territory knows the same thing. He knows the PJs will move heaven and earth to reach him and turn whatever is shooting at him into a smoking crater of hell on earth on the way in. This is the quiet math underneath American violence. Our warriors are the fiercest on earth, not because they're the more aggressive, not because they're better trained or better equipped, although they are all of those things. They are the fiercest because they know in their bones that when they key the mic and call for help, help is coming in hot. Take that away and you don't have the US Military anymore. You have a security force. I thought that those two posts I thought were very insightful, and they sum up a truly extraordinary and unique aspect of the American military.
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Ted Cruz
And this brings us to the second part of the conversation that is important and that is a new warning, Senator, coming from President Trump. If there's anything that I've learned from President Trump in his second term, there's two aspects of his foreign policy. One is fafo, and two is if you're an ally of the United States of America and you don't stand with us, then his second foreign policy is, well, good luck to you, because we're not gonna, we're not gonna keep funding and doing things like NATO or UN or whatever it may be if you're taking advantage of us. He's calling that out as well. And the President has made it clear, when he tells you there's a deadline for something, he means it. There's a new deadline with, with Iran and Tehran and the leadership there. And let's talk about what his new threat is by Tuesday.
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Ben Ferguson
Well, on Sunday, he sent out a truth social that reads, Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Open. Open the effin straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. Praise be to Allah. President Donald J. Trump. Now, I will say he did not abbreviate effing, but, but, but this is a PG rated podcast, so I did. I will say also that after he sent that Truth Social, the Wall Street Journal article that I, that I quoted at the beginning of this show quotes it, and for the first time I've ever seen the F bomb in the Wall Street Journal, they did it quoting the President of the United States. I'm not aware of any precedent of a president dropping the F bomb, but then again, I'm not aware of any president dropping the level of bombs that he is dropping in a concentrated focus that is having this kind of effect. And look, I think Tuesday night is a very serious deadline. The president wants the Strait of Hormuz open. And if you're an Iranian leader as bat crap crazy as those guys are, I don't think they think this is a bluff.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah, I would think not now they crazy enough to say go ahead and do it. And that may be how much they're holding on for dear life just to try to save control. But I agree with you. I don't think they think he's bluffing at all.
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Ben Ferguson
Well, and that's the challenge is that the mullahs, I don't think care at all about their people. We talked before about comparing say the Nazi army to the Allies during World War II, that Hitler was willing to send German soldiers in to die and just have them mowed over. I think the same is true with the mullahs. They're happy to have. Not happy, but they're willing to have as many Iranians die as need be. They believe they're on a mission from God. This is. It is theocratic. And if thousands, look, they murdered. The Ayatollah just murdered about 40,000 Iranians who were rising up in protest. So thousands of Iranians dying doesn't bother them at all. Tens of thousands doesn't bother them at all. It may prove to be the case that hundreds of thousands or even millions of Iranians dying doesn't bother them. And, and so the question is, look, if the US Military takes out the power plants and takes out the bridges, that kind of hard infrastructure that doesn't get rebuilt overnight, that has real and long lasting damage to the economy in Iran. It imposes enormous consequences on Iran. What I don't know is does a theocratic mullah who's chanting death to America care about inflicting massive misery on the Iranian people and devastating the Iranian economy? I guess we'll find out by Tuesday. I don't know the answer.
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Ted Cruz
You know what's interesting is I was asked this question over the weekend and it's one I want to ask you. Senator. It was. Someone said, all right, well, look, let's say we do this and we knock out their power plant. What good does that do us? Because then we're just going to have to help them rebuild it one day. My response was, what you don't understand is that may be what it is. It takes for the people to really overthrow their government. It'll also have a devastating impact on their military in general. And it's another way to fast track them losing control of their country. That's the reason why I think the president's saying, all right, fine, you guys aren't budging. Well, then we're gonna go to the next step here, because I'm not backing down.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah. And look, the president, in his nationwide address said he was gonna bomb them back into the Stone Ages. What's one of the aspects of the stone Ages? Not having electricity, not having power. Going back to lighting fires for light. You take out all their power plants and they have no electricity, which is amazing for an oil rich country like Iran. But you want to talk about grinding the economy to a halt, immediately grinding the military to a halt. Everything runs on electricity. And so shutting down power. And by the way, you take out the bridges, that means, you know, it's one of the things that I've learned. I didn't realize when I was a kid how much of military effectiveness is logistics. One of the incredible things our military is really good at is moving people and materiel, getting it in there, getting ammunition in there, getting food in there, getting fuel in there, moving it around, all of that. Logistically, we are extraordinarily we, the military. That. Not you and me. You know, I'm a lawyer and you're even worse, you're a podcaster. So we are not extraordinary logistically, the military is. Notice how I'm not a podcaster. Apparently, you do this just.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say you just threw me under the bus without. I'm pretty sure the name of the show is behind me there, but we'll just keep going. There we go.
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Ben Ferguson
You know, pot, meat, kettle. But look, you take out the bridges and the ability to move, the military to move, but anyone else to move. You basically shut down commerce in the country. That puts enormous economic pressure on the country. Look, my hope is that the end game on this is the people rise up and say, enough with these crazy mullahs. We want you out. And my objective has always been the president laid out his objective, which is to eliminate the Iranian military's ability to strike out and kill Americans or kill our allies. That's a very important objective. I think the objective should be to collapse this regime, to have Iran led by a government that is not a crazy Islamist who wants to murder Americans. I don't care who it is, as long as they're not actively murdering Americans. If they're not murdering Americans, if they're not trying to murder Americans, I'M good with it. Now the next step, if we've leveled all the power plants, you get a new government in. The new government is going to have to rebuild the power plants. Now I will note that there is one advantage for rebuilding, which is Iran has a crap ton of oil.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah.
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Ben Ferguson
And very quickly financially, there's a revenue stream. So you said, like people said to you, well gosh, we're going to have to rebuild it. I promise you if Trump bombs it, the American taxpayers are not rebuilding it. There is no scenario in which the end game is Trump writing a check. Now. There may be a scenario depending on what happens where when you have a new government, if they're friend and ally with America, you could see assistance on the construction that is paid for by Iranian oil revenues. It's possible that we help them build it back where they're paying for it. But I don't envision any universe in which America is paying for this. And I think anyone who knows Donald Trump knows that's right.
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Ted Cruz
Now if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can go back and listen to the full podcast from earlier this week.
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Ted Cruz
Let me ask you another question that's gotten a lot of of fodder online and I think it's an important one to answer. Democrats and the media really seem to be trying to figure out some way, even if there's success with this Iranian policy of Trump, that they can stick it to Donald Trump. And now the new thing over the last 24, 48 hours been Donald Trump is advocating for committing war crimes by blowing up bridges, potentially in Iran and power plants in Iran. Let's talk about the war crimes aspect of this and deal with what Americans need to know about this new line by the left. Because they're, They, I mean, they, they. They care more about Donald Trump being in trouble than actually taking out a murderous regime in Iran.
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Ben Ferguson
That's true. And I will say one of the sad things, it used to be the case for a long, long time that, that, that politics ended at the water's edge. In other words, that, that Republicans and Democrats battle here at home over all sorts of issues, but when it comes to military conflict abroad, when it comes to defending America, that the two sides refrain from partisan attack, I gotta say, that is not the case anymore. The instant President Trump launched this attack, Democrats began savaging him. You know, we had a classified briefing shortly after the beginning of this attack where you had the Secretary of State,
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Senator Ted Cruz
secretary of Defense, chairman of the Joint
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Ben Ferguson
Chiefs, the head of the CIA, kind of all the top national security apparatus in the Trump administration.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah.
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Ben Ferguson
And all 100 senators attended that, and they were laying out what was happening. And look, I'm not gonna say anything that was said by the briefers in the classified briefing, but I can tell you, other than John Fetterman, who's been very positive on what he said publicly about the conflict with Iran, every single Democrat senator in the room was highly, highly skeptical, was attacking what happened was opposing. What happened was started on day one with we are against standing up to Iran. And I sat there and just kind of shook my head. I was saddened by that. And so one of their talking points, when President Trump said he was going to take out power plants and bridges. And why did he say power plants and bridges, by the way? Look, the biggest thing to take out for Iran is their oil production facility, Carg island, which is the key to. It's where they export virtually all their oil from.
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Ted Cruz
Yep.
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Ben Ferguson
Carg Island. If we really wanted to cripple Iran and put them into the Stone Age, we'd take out their. Their oil facilities. We'd bomb the hell out of Carg island, and Iran's economy would just be screwed for a decade.
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Ted Cruz
Instantly. Yeah, instantly. By the way, people need to understand that, like, if you just wanted to decimate them economically, that is how you would do it. And it would not be that hard.
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Ben Ferguson
So Trump very deliberately has not done that. The reason he said power plants and bridges is because they're critically important to the economy. You take out the power plants, the electricity turns off. The military is crippled, but also the economy is crippled. The basic all of banking, all of communication, all of lights. Literally at night, people start lighting candles because there's no longer the light switches don't work. And bridges are essential for transportation, both military and commercial transportation across the country. I think the reason he picked those two is their enormous lever points. And his hope is that it would cause the collapse of this regime, I believe. But also it means if there were a new government in Iran, the oil facilities would still be there. So they have the ability to generate billions in revenue pretty quickly. And that billions. If the United States military took out the power infrastructure, if you had billions in oil revenue coming in, you could rebuild. It wouldn't be immediate. But having the revenue stream makes rebuilding much more possible than if you take out the oil infrastructure. The revenue stream is much further down the road and it's much harder to turn around. I think that's why I picked it. But I will say we're getting a lot of pompous Democrats and pompous news reporters, although I repeat myself on TV saying taking out civilian power plants is a war crime.
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Ted Cruz
Yeah.
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Ben Ferguson
Well, let me read to you from the Pentagon's Law of war manual. So the Pentagon has a manual on the law of war.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Here's what it says.
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Ben Ferguson
Quote, electric power stations are generally recognized to be of sufficient importance to a state's capacity to meet its wartime needs of communication, transport and industry. So as usually to qualify as military objectives during armed conflicts. And by the way, the broader section which I will read from you, this is in section 5.6.8.5, examples of military objectives, economic objects associated with military operations. And it says before what I just read, economic objects associated with military operations or with war supporting a war sustaining industries have been regarded as military objectives. That is incredibly inconvenient for all of the Trump haters in the Democrat Party or in the media who want to scream war crime, war crime, war crime. Because there's no doubt the power generation is integral to the war fighting ability of Iran. And listen, I will say the fact that Pakistan stepped in, it actually goes to what we said on Monday's podcast, which is Trump's threat with any ordinary and rational leader would be incredibly effective if you actually had a leader that gave a damn about their people, that gave a damn about their economy. That threat would be holy cow. We can't let that happen. The risk factor is the very real possibility that the ayatollah and the mullahs just don't care that they're willing to see that kind of devastation to their country. I will say Pakistan, Pakistan is, I've long described Pakistan as a problematic ally. They are an ally, but there are challenges in Pakistan. I actually put Pakistan.
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Ted Cruz
That's a very diplomatic way of putting that.
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Ben Ferguson
Yes, but you know what? They're an ally rather than a friend. But there are real challenges. We work with Pakistan. There are a lot of bad people or enemies of America that are within Pakistan, but we work with the government of Pakistan. And I think the Prime Minister of Pakistan stepped up and said, hey, look, you guys in Iran, don't go down this road and end up crippling. Don't go back to the Dark ages. And this goes back to where Pakistan may have some credibility with Iran. I don't know if Pakistan provided Iran something of an off ramp. That's a good interpretation. Or if Iran's just seizing on this to delay. That's another interpretation that is possible. But I do think Pakistan stepping forward and saying, let's have a two week ceasefire is an example of a more normal country and a leader who presumably cares about his people, at least to a significant extent, stepping forward to Iran and saying, come on, guys, don't, don't keep playing chicken. This doesn't end up well.
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Ted Cruz
As before. If you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic, you can go back and download the podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. I want to get back to the big story number three of the week you may have missed. Senator, we want to talk about another issue that it needs to be back on the radar screen for a lot of Americans and that is the continual crimes are being committed by illegal immigrants that are in this country. The media continues to overlook this. They don't want you to know that it's happening. But it's another example of why the President needs to be fighting so hard against these sanctuary cities that are harboring many of these criminals that are, as he would describe them, really bad hombres.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, you may recall back in 2024 at the Republican National Convention, when I spoke and addressed the convention, my remarks were focused on this topic. And the theme of it was, every damn day, every day, another American is raped, another American is assaulted, another American is murdered by a violent criminal illegal alien that Joe Biden and the Democrats have released. And I walk through the tragic cases of Jocelyn Nungaree, the beautiful 12 year old girl raped and murdered here in Houston. I walked through Lake and Riley, the horrific murder of the young nursing student in Georgia. I walked through Rachel Marin, the mom of five, raped and murdered outside of Washington, D.C. it was happening over and over and over and over again. That was one of the big reasons that the voters came out in overwhelming numbers. Reelected President Trump, elected a Republican House, elected a Republican Senate. And we've seen immediate results. We've seen illegal border crossings drop more than 99%. The problem is we have four years of open borders that we have to unwind. We have over 12 million illegal aliens that were allowed to flood into this country. And so just this week, the story broke that a gas station clerk, a mom in Fort Myers, Florida, was bludgeoned to death with a hammer. I mean, what a horrible way to go. Beaten to death with a hammer. And who is it that committed this crime? A Haitian illegal alien who was caught and then released at the border by the Biden administration in 2022. An immigration judge or ordered him deported. Robert Joashim is his name. But the Biden administration shielded him from deportation by granting him temporary protected status. So in other words, what this person did, he took a hammer in the parking lot of a gas station. He walks at her with full strength. He beats her on the head with a hammer. She falls down unconsciously, and then he crushes her head with the hammer while she's unconscious six more times. Here's the statement the Department of Homeland Security put out. Quote, this illegal alien barbarically hit this woman in the head multiple times with a hammer. This heinous murderer was released into the country by the Biden administration. Not only did the Biden administration release him into the country, but they gave him temporary protected status. Their reckless immigration policies cost this woman her life. This keeps happening over and over and over again. And what is amazing, Ben, in spite of that, every Democrat in the Senate, when we have a vote, the Department of Homeland Security still shut down because they have decided they hate ICE so much. They hate border enforcement so much that it is the position of the Democrat Party. They are opposed. They want to defund ice, which is the organization that is charged with finding this vicious criminal, arresting him and deporting him. They don't want him deported. They want this Haitian murderer in your community. They don't care if you happen to be the poor woman who's bludgeoned to death. Look, you know Chris Murphy, the very liberal Democrat from Connecticut was on tv. And you know, there's an old line that a gaffe is when a politician actually accidentally tells the truth. He described, he said the people we care about the most, meaning we, meaning Democrats, are illegal immigrants. That is what their party is. And it's infuriating. It keeps happening over and over and
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Ted Cruz
over again when you talk about it still being shut down. And this is, I think, why the midterms are going to be a really important, obviously this should be one of the important issues of the midterms that Republicans need to remind. If Democrats get back in charge, they've made it clear they will immediately open the borders wide up and they don't care who comes in that like it's going to happen. Get ready for it. That is their for that is their policy. And they will absolutely abolish ICE if they can do it as well.
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Senator Ted Cruz
And by the way, understand the risk is not just the murderers. It's not just the child molesters and the rapists and the gang bangers. It is also a very real risk of terrorism. We have seen in the last month four acts of terrorism by radical Islamic terrorists. And here's a story that broke this week. I'm just going to read a tweet from Bill Belujian, the fantastic reporter at Fox. Here's what he said. New Border Patrol caught and arrested four British nationals entering the US Illegally in a remote part of Maine after crossing from Canada. Their names? These are four British nationals. Ali Mohammed, Ali Abdullah. That's number one. Hamid Mohammed Nagi. That's number two. Ibrahim Ayub Khan. That's number three. And Muhammad Sultan Saleh. And these are illegal immigrants that were sneaking into a remote wooded part of Maine. This is dangerous. Now you know what happened because President Trump is in office and Border Patrol is allowed to do their job. They were apprehended. They weren't just let in and they're apprehended. You know what? I guarantee you they will not be released. They won't be released into this country.
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Ben Ferguson
If Joe Biden were president, those four
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Senator Ted Cruz
people whose names I just released named that they'd be released and we might be reading about them in another week or two. That pattern has played out over and over and over again. And by the way, it's not just illegal immigrants. It is criminals across the board. It is criminals across the board such as, for example, decarlos Brown, who was this psychotic lunatic who murdered the beautiful Ukrainian woman in North Carolina. He was just ruled not competent to stand trial. And I don't Doubt that the guy is crazy as a loon. But let's be clear. Democrats and Roy Cooper in particular, the Democrat governor, released this psychopath murderer 14 separate times. 14. If you keep releasing violent criminals and actually help me on this, Ben, play, play devil's advocate for a minute. Try to get inside the mind of a Democrat. Why would they want to release violence, violent criminals over and over again?
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Ted Cruz
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. And yet they continue to do it because for them, I really do think it's an issue of politics. Right. They want to bring in new voters. That's the simplest way I can put it.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, it's not just new voters.
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Ben Ferguson
Yes, for the illegals.
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Senator Ted Cruz
But you look at this to Carlos Brown, he was not an illegal immigrant. He was just a psychopathic lunatic American. But you know what Democrats also think not only should he be released from jail, but they think he ought to be a voter. He's perfectly fine to vote in U.S. elections. And I guarantee you violent criminals vote overwhelmingly Democrat. And I guess that explains why the Democrats, their priority is violent criminals and not American citizens.
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Ted Cruz
As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you. Don't forget to download my podcast. And you can listen to my podcast every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each day when you listen to Verdict afterwards. I'd love to have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson Podcast. And we will see you back here on Monday morning.