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Verdict with Ted Cruz
On the Road in Mexico Urging the Mexican Government to get Serious about Defeating Cartels plus Dems Bemoan Trump's Fighting Violent Crime
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Welcome. It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz. Ben Ferguson with you. Senator, you have come back from a codel of Latin America and it is finally wrapped. You got back in the wee hours of the morning and you're going to give us a final update on the last part of your trip.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, I got home at 4 in the morning last night, so it's good to be at home. It's good to sleep in my own bed. It was a very productive trip. As we discussed on previous pods, we started by going to El Salvador. I met with President Bukele. The President of El Salvador saw the incredible success he has had defeating gangs, defeating Ms. 13 and the 18th Street Barrio in El Salvador. They've gone from the highest murder rate in the entire world, 100 homicides per 100,000 people. That meant in any given year one in a thousand Salvadorans was being murdered. That number has plummeted by 98%. Last year their murder rate was 1.9 per 100,000. That is among the safest in the world. That is three times safer than the United States of America. We're just over six murders per 100,000. El Salvador is now three times as safe. Incredible success what they're doing in El Salvador. From then I flew on to Panama. Panama was a fascinating meeting. I toured the Panama Canal. I must say it is truly an engineering miracle. The idea that the United States was able to build this more than a century ago in 1914, it is incredible, an incredible design and it's incredibly important both for US national security and for US Economic security. And so I had multiple discussions with senior Panamanian officials about the critical importance of removing China from the Panama Canal. China right now has a major port at the mouth of both ends of the canal. I went and went right up, right up by that port and you could see China's strategic location to be able to shut down the Panama Canal. Should we have a military conflict with China. Not only do they have a major port at the mouth of the canal, China is also building a bridge right across the mouth of the canal at the Pacific. They are also digging a tunnel under the canal for a Metro train. Any of those would give them the ability, if they use them maliciously, to try to shut down traffic on the canal, which, among other things, would have a massive economic harm to the United States. But it would also severely limit our ability to move our naval ships. We have a very significant portion of our fleet in the Atlantic. The Panama Canal cuts weeks off the transit to get those ships to the Pacific. And should there be a conflict in the Pacific, the Chinese would like to force our Atlantic fleet to stay in the Atlantic and not be able to traverse the canal. And so it was a very productive meeting, stressing that the United States was going to do whatever is necessary to make sure that the canal is safe and that the Chinese don't control it. The final step of the CODEL was Mexico. And I spent yesterday or the day before in Mexico, met with, with multiple senior government officials, met with the Foreign Secretary, met with the Defense Secretary and met with the Agriculture Secretary. We had very productive meetings. And the focus of my meetings was very much safety and security. Number one, securing the border and number two, going after the Mexican drug cartels. And we have seen extraordinary success securing our border because President Trump is back in office and because we have a president who is willing to secure the border. And we have seen illegal border crossings drop 99%. When I was in Mexico, I was going to the Mexican government. I was asking the government to join with us, join with us and partner with us in taking out the Mexican drug cartels. We had extensive discussions on this. And finally we're going to talk about how J.B. pritzker and the Democrats have decided to be open that they are in support of criminals. They are the party of murderers. They are the party of criminals. It is, sadly, it is the culmination of a long, long downward slide from today's Democrat party.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, I started the meeting with a long meeting with Juan Ramon de la Fuente who is the secretary of foreign affairs of Mexico. And it was a very Positive meeting. The minister speaks fluent English. He is someone who has spent significant time in the United States. He's a professional economist. And we talked. We actually started by talking about areas of cooperation and in particular, trade and commerce between the United States and Mexico. Every year, the United States and Mexico, we have roughly $800 billion worth of trade and commerce between our nations, and about 300 billion of that is between Texas and Mexico. And so one of my big focuses, my number one priority in the Senate without fail, has been jobs. Focusing on more jobs, higher wages, greater opportunity, helping small businesses. And so expanding trade between Texas and Mexico is good for Texas farmers and ranchers and small businesses. And so we talked about that. We talked about the four new bridges that I've taken the lead on getting built between South Texas and Mexico to expand the ability for our farmers and ranchers to sell our livestock south of the border, to expand our ability for us to sell energy south of the border, to expand our ability to export manufactured goods south of the border, and so on. That I would say the Foreign Minister and I had a very positive meeting. And there's steps that are going forward that have been taken under the Trump administration that are expanding trade, mutually beneficial trade for both countries. But then we shifted into, okay, that will happen in an environment where security is maintained. And I pressed, I said, listen, the United States wants to be a friend of Mexico. We want to be your partner. And I pointed out to him, and I pointed this out also to the Defense Secretary, I said, listen, under Joe Biden, the Mexican drug cartels became unbelievably wealthy. Here's a stat from the New York Times. In 2018, the Mexican drug cartels made roughly $500 million from human trafficking. 2018, last year, again, according to the New York Times, the cartels made over $13 billion from drug trafficking. That is a 2,600% increase. And what Joe Biden and the Democrats did to Mexico was horrible. Mexico paid a very real price for that. And I told the Foreign Secretary, Defense Secretary, I said, listen, America was not being a good friend with Joe Biden and the Democrats. Open borders. Those open borders, they did massive damage to the US but they also did massive damage to Mexico because we took transnational criminal organizations who are vicious murderers who commit unspeakable atrocities. And Joe Biden and the Democrats flooded tens of billions of dollars into them, turning them into dominant economic forces in the nation of Mexico. And there are countless numbers of Mexicans who have been murdered, who have been kidnapped, who have been tortured because of Joe Biden and the Democrats, open borders. And so my request to the Mexican government is, I said, listen, the United States stands ready to assist Mexico in eliminating the cartels. The 2024 election in the United States was clearly a mandate from the American people to close these open borders. President Trump has rightly declared the cartels to be terrorist organizations. And so my pitch to them was work hand in hand with us to take it to a different level, to take those cartels out.
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Ben Ferguson
You talk about that. What is their response? Because everybody knows that, look, the infiltration of the cartels and Mexico's government is significant and it's real. And I think everybody knows that, that knows anything about the cartels down there in general. What, when you say this, is it lip service or is there a sense of like, hey, maybe you guys can help us do something we can't even do ourselves?
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Senator Ted Cruz
So unfortunately, the response was flat out no. Yesterday, Mexico's president, Claudia Sheinbaum was, was asked about my trip, about the offer I made for the United States to assist Mexico in eliminating the cartels. And her answer was, absolutely not. No, we do not want America's help. This is Mexico. We will handle it internally. Essentially, we don't want the Yankee gringos in our country. She didn't quite say that, but that was the message of it. And I would say that was consistent with what I was hearing from the foreign secretary and the defense secretary. Both of them, the phrase they repeated most often was sovereignty. They kept saying, sovereignty, sovereignty, sovereignty, Mexico. We want our sovereignty. We don't want the American military in Mexico. And I'll tell you, Ben, I tried to make an historical analogy and compare it to some other instances. I pointed out, number one, Del Salvador. And I said, look, I was just in El Salvador a few days ago and I described to them the unbelievable success that El Salvador had dealing with the gangs there and Ms. 13 18th Street Barrio. They were just like the Mexican drug cartels. They were vicious transnational organizations. And when you had a leader, President Bukele, who decided, I'm going to value the innocent civilians, the moms and dads and the kids of El Salvador, more than those criminals, they knew who the criminals were. They went and arrested them and they locked them up. And by the way, if you did not see our podcast on Wednesday, if you did not listen to our podcast on Wednesday, let me encourage you to listen to it because I take you inside the Secot prison, the maximum security prison where these very worst gang members are held. I described, I've never seen anything Remotely like this. I describe it in detail. And I also recount an extended conversation that I have with an MS.13 member who joined in the United States in Falls Church, Virginia, who lived for years in America, lived for years in Texas. And he described some of the crimes that he committed in the United States and some of the crimes he committed in El Salvador. If you didn't listen to it, go back and listen to it. But I use that example with the Mexican leaders to say, we can do this. You know who the cartel members are, go after them and have the same political will. What is missing is the political will, have the political will that El Salvador did to say, we are not going to let the cartels be effectively the government of Mexico. We are going to let the people. I made the argument they were talking about sovereignty. I said, you want to talk about sovereignty when the cartels are allowed to control the country and terrify people? I described a mayor of a northern Mexico city who I visited with a number of years ago, described how in his region there were over more than 3,000 disappearances of Mexican nationals who just disappear. The cartels kidnapped them, they murder them, they throw them in mass graves and abandon them. That is not the behavior of a sovereign country that is protecting its citizens the way it should be. And so my pitch was follow the example of El Salvador. And then there was a second example I used, Ben, which was Colombia. Yeah, Colombia. In the early 2000s, George W. Bush was president and he made an offer to President Uribe of Colombia. He said, Colombia, like El Salvador a few years ago, like Mexico now, had narco terrorists controlling the country. Had them murdering police officers and murdering soldiers and journalists and judges and elected officials terrorizing the citizenry and Colombia. President Uribe demonstrated some of the same clear eyed resolve that President Bukele in El Salvador has demonstrated. And President Uribe said to the United States, yes, we want your help. And the American military came into Colombia and just all but eradicated the terrorists, came in with incredible force and effectiveness. But did it hand in hand with the partnership of the Colombian government that was called Plan Colombia? And I said, follow that model. We will work hand in hand with you. And I got to tell you, both the Defense Minister and the foreign minister, and then ultimately President Sheinbaum yesterday said, no, we do not want to work with the American military. We're not willing to do so. That is unfortunate. I understand the Mexican politics. I gotta say, the first night I was there, there was actually a fist fight in their Congress. Two Mexican senators began punching each Other on the face on this issue.
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Ben Ferguson
So the level of this is amazing, by the way, because, I mean, when you see the news break like that.
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Senator Ted Cruz
You'Re like, wow, yeah, that was right when I landed in Mexico City and I looked at the video of two senators get. Getting in a fistfight, and it was over. Should we accept America's help to use military force to take out the cartels? And listen, there's a long history of politics in Mexico where it is good politics, generally speaking, it is good populist politics to rail against the Yankee imperialist from the north. And that, that, that has elected quite a few politicians in Mexico saying, we're going to stand up to America. Sheinbaum is a protege of amlo. AMLO ran on a hard left, anti American agenda. Sheinbaum, less so. But. But Mexico has a complicated situation because their economy is intertwined with the United States. We are by far their largest trading partner. And so there's a combination. Some of what they're doing when they're saying, no, we will not let the United States military into our nation is that they are appealing to those populists and nationalist sentiments in Mexico. I was trying hard to say, listen, this is an opportunity for you. Your nation will be safer, your citizens will be safer if you accept our help.
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Ben Ferguson
When you look at the response now, I think many Americans are gonna ask the question, okay, this goes back to the Trump doctrine of declaring these cartels terrorist organizations.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Yes.
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Ben Ferguson
And that gives us more ability to hit them. Is your calculus change because of this trip? What is your thoughts about moving forward if they're just not willing to do it or they're so compromised they can't do it in Mexico.
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Senator Ted Cruz
So I will tell you, particularly with the defense Minister, I had a very frank and candid conversation. General Travilla came in. He argued at first, at great length. He says, well, the cartels are not terrorists. We do not think they're terrorists. They're just ordinary criminals.
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Ben Ferguson
Did he do it with a straight face?
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Senator Ted Cruz
Oh, he did. He had a whole PowerPoint presentation. And I listened to him. I thought it was interesting that that's how he chose to begin his presentation. And he also argued, pointing to some military exercises in which Mexico had done very well and had done better than the United States in some military exercises. And I didn't bother to argue with him on that. It's like, okay, fine, you guys are great.
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Ben Ferguson
What do you gain from that conversation? Right.
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Senator Ted Cruz
I'm not interested in a contest where we're measuring appendages. And this Same Defense Secretary. There was a House member who previously was down there who apparently got in a screaming match with him over exactly this question of whose military is tougher. And I'm like, look, I'm not gonna invest any time and energy arguing with you. We both know the answer to that. So you can say whatever you want to save face, and that's fine. What I said to him was the following. And I said, listen, I understand that you care about your sovereignty. That's good and important that you should care about your sovereignty. America cares deeply about our sovereignty. But I said, you need to understand these cartels. If these were just criminal organizations in Mexico and if they were just killing Mexican nationals, that would be tragic, but it would not be our concern. They're not just killing nationals in your own country. These Mexican drug cartels. Cartels are killing vast numbers of Americans. They're committing crimes in the United States. They're murdering people. They're raping people. They're dealing with vast amounts of drugs. Last year, we had over 100,000 people die of drug overdoses, 70% of which was fentanyl. The impact on the United States is enormously harmful. And I said, in light of that, because we believe in our sovereignty as well, we are going to act. And I told the Defense Secretary, I also had a press conference. And I said this in the press conference. I said, I find it very hard to believe that four years will pass and the United States will not act in a serious military manner against these drug cartels. And I pointed out to both the Defense and Foreign Secretary, I said, listen, I'm not the commander in Chief. That's not my decision to make. The ambassador, United States ambassador from Mexico, was sitting next to me. I said, that's not his decision to make. That decision is made by President Donald Trump. And I believe sometime in the next four years, you will see strong, decisive military action against the cartels. I said, the choice you have to make is, which way do you want it to go? We would much rather it be cooperative. We'd much rather it be the American government working hand in hand with the Mexican government. That's the best way as friends and neighbors, for us to do this.
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Ben Ferguson
Sure.
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Senator Ted Cruz
But if you refuse to act, I think it is extremely unlikely that Donald Trump will allow four years to go without acting militarily. And the two examples I used also, I said, listen, you can talk about sovereignty all you like, but we just a matter of weeks ago, sent two B2s across the globe to deliver bunker buster bombs to obliterate Iran's nuclear weapons facilities. The United States is perfectly capable of acting and projecting force anywhere on the planet if American citizens are threatened, if it is endangering the lives of Americans. And these Mexican drug cartels are most assuredly doing that. I said, you know what, we didn't ask the Ayatollah's permission to do so. We did so because we had a strong commander in chief who was protecting the citizens of America. And I said, likewise, when America went and took out Osama bin Laden, I said, in that instance, we did cooperate with the Pakistani government. We did inform them and work with them to take out bin Laden because bin Laden was hiding in Pakistan. But I said, I'll tell you what I think. If the Pakistani government had resisted us, I believe we would have taken out bin Laden as well, because he was a terrorist and he was a terrorist who had killed thousands of Americans. And so you've got a choice to make. I believe America is going to act, and we are going to act very directly on these cartels because they have killed too many Americans for us to sit idly by. And your choice is, do you want to be our partner in doing so, or do you want to read about it in the newspaper and watch it on the 6 o' clock news?
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Ben Ferguson
Response, I gotta ask, what was it?
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Senator Ted Cruz
Finally, look, the response was the President doing a press conference and she said, no, we will not allow the US Military into the United States. It was defiance. It was giving in to the populist stand up to America rhetoric. You know, that's fine to say in a press conference when you're feeding red meat to the masses. So we'll see what she says to the Trump administration directly. And I think this is going to be an ongoing discussion for the next three and a half years. But as I said, I believe that President Trump, he's already secured the border. I think he's going to act decisively against these cartels who have been waging war on the United States of America. And during the Biden administration, not only were we not fighting back, but Joe Biden and the Democrats were actively complicit in waging that war.
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To part two of this conversation. Let's bring it back home. J.D. pritzker is a interesting man. He's got a lot of money, he's a governor and he thinks he's succeeding at fighting crime. But getting illegal immigrant killers and rapists off our streets is quote unquote dangerous, he says. And now it is apparently anti American. Tie that into your trip to Mexico. I mean, you want to talk about two people that could gotten together and had one heck of a lunch. The people you met with with JD they'd be like kumbaya in this stuff.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Well, JB Pritzker, he is a billionaire. Like many Democrat billionaires, he did not make his money. He inherited it. He inherited a vast fortune and he's now the governor of Illinois and presiding over a state where the people are fleeing his state, where crime is out of control, where left wing policies are an absolute disaster. And it's striking. He has the same reality denying vision. Gavin Newsom has the same thing in California where they both, you know, it reminds me of that meme of the dumpster burning in the background and saying, you know, everything's fine here. That is today's Democrats just telling you, don't believe your lying eyes. Just make sure to duck the bullets when you're in your living room. But everything other than that is great. JB Pritzer says he's succeeding at fighting violent crime in Chicago and you're right. It is reminiscent of these Mexican government leaders who said they're handling it just fine. Look at the great progress they're making. And you look at the cartels who are murdering Mexican Mexicans with impunity and who are committing vast numbers of crime in the United States. Here, give a listen to J.B. pritzker, Governor of Illinois. What we won't do, however, is engage in what is a federal effort. That is to say they have their job, immigration. We have our job, which is to fight violent crime on the streets of our city. And by the way, we're succeeding at that job. But when they bring people in and don't coordinate with us, they're going to cause enormous problems. So.
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Ben Ferguson
Going to cause enormous problems there, Senator. I mean, if that doesn't sound like a threat, I don't know what is.
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Senator Ted Cruz
So Pritzker claims he is succeeding at fighting violent crime in Chicago. Chicago has had the most murders of any American city for 13 consecutive years. 13 years in a row. Chicago is number one. Chicago's murder rate is three times higher than Los Angeles. It is five times higher than New York City. It is two times higher than Islamabad, and it is 15 hot times higher than Delhi. And the answer to a billionaire Democrat who is surrounded by police officers at all times. So he's not worried about being mugged on the streets of Chicago. That's not a threat he's facing. He says, we've got the highest murder rate in America. We're succeeding. This is Democrat success, you know. But he goes even further. He expresses great dismay that if President Trump is successful in turning around crime in Chicago, that would be a bad thing. Listen to the second clip. So this is dangerous. They shouldn't be doing it. It's anti American. It's un American. And I would tell her to maybe check herself for what does she really believe?
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Ben Ferguson
Nothing says we're fighting crime like threatening the woman who's out there in Department of Homeland Security Secretary Noem and saying, you need to check yourself. Right? And saying it's dangerous and un American and anti American to go after illegal immigrant killers and rapists.
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Senator Ted Cruz
It's stunning. The Democrats are becoming more and more open that if they have a conflict between a murderer and a victim, if they have a conflict between a Venezuelan gang member and an innocent American citizen, if they have a conflict between a rapist and a single mom, if they have a conflict between a violent sexual predator and your children, the Democrats will pick the criminal every single time. They're not even pretending anymore to go after those criminals Democrat Governor Pritzker says is dangerous, anti American and un American. I think the American people are getting fed up. There was a new poll from AP/NORC that found that a large majority of Americans, 68%, see crime as a major problem in large cities. And the approach of the Democrat Party is they're not going to do anything about it. In fact, the highest murder rate in the U.S. they describe as a success. And what it is, it's reminiscent of the leadership in El Salvador when they had the highest murder rate in the world and they described what they were doing as a success. And the only answer is new political leadership that actually says keeping our citizens safe is our number one priority and we're going to do so. We've seen what happens when President Trump does so in the United States and the border is immediately secured. We had a 99% decrease in illegal crossings. We saw what happened with President Bukele in El Salvador where they had a 98% drop in homicides. Ironically, we saw what happened in San Francisco where President Xi came to San Francisco and Gavin Newsom immediately cleaned up San Francisco, removed the homeless people, took the junkies off the street and cleaned up the human feces off the street. All of which demonstrates they know how to do so. If they could do so on Monday, they could do so on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The reason they don't, the reason the crime persists, the reason your family is threatened, is because the Democrats, politically, their ideology, they think it's better to side with the criminals than it is with you. And that I don't get that. But that's where we are. And I do think it's part of the reason we see today's Democrat Party getting more and more extreme and appealing to a smaller and smaller sliver of our society.
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Ben Ferguson
Final question on this. I believe now that the Democratic Party is in such shambles that they don't even know how to get out of this. There is no real leader. We're being told Obama's coming back and gonna like, quote, start mentoring people in the Democratic Party. That's how desper they are. The same guy that's the Godfather, as I described it on Laura Ingram show on Fox Friday night, as, as, as the godfather of this type of insanity and anarchy. He's the guy that created the AOCs of the party and gave them power. And so you look at the Democratic Party now, I don't want to be overconfident, but what I do want to say is I feel like these midterms may actually be a big opportunity for Republican candidates coming up. Usually you give up seats when you have all three branches in the midterms. There's a chance this could actually work out for conservatives, as you mentioned, because the voters are so sick and tired of the left not keeping them safe. It's not even about the economy. It's about safety.
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Senator Ted Cruz
Yeah, look, I hope so, Ben. I'll confess, I'm significantly more worried than you. We've got cross cutting forces for the midterms. On the positive side for Republicans, the Democrats have gotten so extreme so whack job out there that it seems like they took a list of a dozen 80, 20 issues and they said, let's take the 20% side of all of them. And in some instances, they've even taken 90, 10 issues and said, let's appeal to the smallest sliver of America we can. Generally speaking, that is a really bad political strategy. So that augers in our favor. On the other side, we have a real enthusiasm gap. And that this worries me about the midterms, which is an awful lot of Americans are really happy with the success we've seen in the first eight months of 2025, President Trump has been winning major victories. The danger is that when people are happy, when they're seeing success, they're complacent. They stay home. I'll tell you what, the left is not complacent. They are enraged. They are outraising Republicans three to one. They hate Donald Trump. And we saw, we just saw a special election in Iowa state senator seat that Trump had won that district by 11 points. They just elected a Democrat state senator in that district. That I believe was an enthusiasm gap, that the left is motivated by rage and hate. And that means that they are definitely showing up. And it's our job to make sure that the common sense majority of this country is not complacent, but realizes if we don't show up to defend what we've got, that's how you get these whack jobs elected in the first place.
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Ben Ferguson
Yeah, great point. It's gonna be a lot that we're gonna have to watch certainly going into the midterm elections. Don't forget we do this show on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. So hit that subscriber auto download button wherever you get your podcasts and so that you don't miss single episode. Also, on those in between days, grab my podcast, the Ben Ferguson Podcast as well. I'll keep you up to date on the latest breaking news and the Senator and I will see you back here on Wednesday morning.
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