Verdict with Ted Cruz: "Trump DEI Spending Win, Cracker Barrel Pulls the Plug on Rebrand & Panama Canal at Risk by Far Reaching China" (Aug 30, 2025)
Main Theme:
In this "Week in Review" episode, Senator Ted Cruz and co-host Ben Ferguson break down three major stories: the Supreme Court’s support for Trump’s termination of DEI-related NIH grants, Cracker Barrel's failed rebranding and rapid reversal, and Cruz's Latin American trip, focusing on El Salvador’s anti-crime reforms and serious national security concerns involving the Panama Canal and China.
1. Supreme Court Allows Trump to Axe DEI Grants
Summary:
Senator Cruz and Ben Ferguson discuss the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision allowing the Trump administration to withhold approximately $783 million in National Institutes of Health (NIH) grants tied to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) and gender ideology. Cruz portrays this as a significant win for fiscal accountability and a setback for left-leaning legal activism.
Key Discussion Points:
- The court ruled on procedural grounds, determining the lawsuit was filed in the wrong court (should have been the Court of Federal Claims, not a regular district court).
- Grants in question were awarded, in some cases, based on ideology or the researcher’s race, rather than on scientific merit.
- Cruz shares a personal anecdote:
"Early in the Trump administration, I was flying from D.C. back to Houston and a woman came up to me...she was a cancer researcher at MD Anderson and she said she was very worried about funding getting cut...everyone...agrees that we ought to be doing cancer research." (02:04) - The implication is that trimming ideological programs preserves resources for actual medical research.
- Justice Amy Coney Barrett provided the deciding vote, aligning partly with conservatives (blocking the disbursal of money) and partly with liberals (keeping DEI guidance vacated). The legal fight continues.
Notable Quotes:
- “$783 million in NIH grants...not actually going to disease and curing disease...but instead are granted based on ideology. That is an absolute waste and it is wrong.” — Ted Cruz (04:17)
- “This really should have been 9-0. But I'm glad it was at least 5-4 the right way.” — Ted Cruz (05:54)
- On persistent legal challenges:
“The Democrats are going to keep trying...This is their next generation of lawfare.” — Ted Cruz (06:44) - Justice Gorsuch, concurring (read on air):
“Whatever their own views, judges are duty bound to respect the hierarchy of the federal court system created by the Constitution and Congress.” — (Quote read at 09:32)
Memorable Moment:
Cruz criticizes some district judges for citing dissents as justification:
- “A dissent by definition means you lost...If you are citing a dissent, you are saying right on the front of it, I don't care what the majority held. I agree with the dissenters. No lower court judge has the authority to do that. That is the definition of lawlessness.” — Ted Cruz (11:13)
Key Segment:
- Supreme Court DEI grants discussion: [00:00]–[11:43]
2. Cracker Barrel's "Woke" Rebrand and Swift Retreat
Summary:
The hosts discuss Cracker Barrel’s recent (and now-abandoned) attempt at “woke” rebranding, drawing parallels to Bud Light and Target’s perceived misfires. The rebranding, which included changes to the iconic logo, backfired with a significant customer and market backlash.
Key Discussion Points:
- Cracker Barrel's leadership tried to modernize the brand image, but in the process alienated its traditional base.
- As Cruz frames it: the “woke leadership decided that everything the company was built on, they didn't like. And in particular, they didn't like their customers.” (11:55)
- Public and financial backlash forced the company to revert within a day of Trump and Cruz publicly condemning the changes.
- Investor Sardar Biglari, holding 5% of the company, had previously warned of the folly and financial risk in the new strategy, comparing it to other failing chains (Ruby Tuesday, Red Lobster).
- The episode frames the event as a “victory for common sense.”
Notable Quotes:
- “This was a bunch of Americans that said, okay, you despise us...you're basically telling us you don't want us anymore. Watch this.” — Ben Ferguson (14:21)
- “Yesterday President Trump publicly called out Cracker Barrel and said, look, you need to just go back to your old logo...And 24 hours later, they did. So that was gratifying.” — Ted Cruz (15:07)
- Quoting Biglari’s investor letter:
"The Cracker Barrel transformation was a 'mistake of misguided executives falling into a textbook trap of overspending on cosmetic remodeling.'” — Ted Cruz (15:56)
Key Segment:
- Cracker Barrel rebrand: [11:53]–[17:48]
3. Senator Cruz’s Latin America Trip: El Salvador & Panama Canal
El Salvador: Crime Reform and Reverse Migration
Summary:
Cruz details his delegation’s visit to El Salvador, praising security improvements and highlighting their remarkable effects on public safety and migration trends.
Key Insights:
- Massive increase in applications for police jobs (10,000+) due to increased safety.
- Historic context: high rates of gang violence and danger to police officers (300+ killed in one year).
- Reverse migration phenomenon: Of 3 million Salvadorans in the US, ~1.5 million reportedly wish to return as safety improves.
Notable Quotes:
- “Now people are lining up to be police officers because they see the difference...Previously, when the gangs were running the country...over 300 police officers murdered...Now...they see the difference.” — Ted Cruz (18:17)
- “Now we are seeing reverse migration...about one and a half million...have said they want to come back to El Salvador.” — Ted Cruz (18:45)
- “When you fix these problems...it has economic benefits. It literally transforms your community. That's inspirational.” — Ted Cruz (19:47)
Key Segment:
- El Salvador report: [17:48]–[20:22]
Panama Canal: National Security & China’s Influence
Summary:
Cruz expresses grave concern about Chinese ownership and involvement in Panama Canal infrastructure. He recounts meetings with Panamanian officials, arguing that U.S. and Panamanian interests align in limiting Chinese leverage over one of the world’s most strategic assets.
Key Insights:
- Overview of why the canal matters: vital for economic and military movement between the Atlantic and Pacific.
- Detailed description of canal operations, logistics, and modernization.
- Cruz’s warning: If China gains leverage in a crisis (e.g., over a Taiwan conflict), they could shut the canal, impeding U.S. Navy and hurting the U.S. economy.
- Ongoing talks and U.S. pressure to ensure the canal stays out of Chinese hands, with U.S. companies in negotiations to buy out Chinese holdings.
- Recap of evidence of Chinese presence: ports, a bridge, a metro tunnel—all under construction/operation or bid by Chinese firms.
Notable Quotes:
- “There is a gigantic port that is owned and controlled by Communist China. And it's right there...And they have cranes...right there in position.” — Ted Cruz (23:47)
- “If, God forbid, we find ourselves in a military conflict with China...the risk is unacceptable that China would try to shut down the Panama Canal.” — Ted Cruz (25:58)
- “Do not leave them [China] in a position where they can shut down this canal. Because shutting down this canal would be an enormous economic and national security blow to the United States, but it would also be an enormous blow to Panama.” — Ted Cruz (27:59)
Key Segment:
- Panama Canal/China segment: [20:50]–[28:44]
Memorable Moments & Tone
- The episode maintains a direct, opinionated, conversational tone, especially in moments of strong critique against “woke” corporate leadership and “lawless” district judges.
- Cruz repeatedly uses personal anecdotes and detailed legislative or judicial insight, while Ferguson frames and emphasizes populist reactions (“watch this”).
- The synergy of legislative detail and colloquial storytelling (e.g., police reforms, canal logistics) makes complex issues accessible to listeners.
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Trump/DEI Grants Ruling: [00:00]–[11:43]
- Cracker Barrel Rebrand Pushback: [11:53]–[17:48]
- El Salvador Crime/Migration: [17:48]–[20:22]
- Panama Canal/China Influence: [20:50]–[28:44]
For Further Listening:
The episode repeatedly prompts listeners to check out full-length versions of prior conversations if they want in-depth explorations of DEI spending or El Salvador’s reforms.
Summary Takeaway:
This episode of "Verdict with Ted Cruz" offers a conservative analysis and behind-the-scenes look at consequential legal, business, and national security issues, mixing high-level policy discussion with populist critique of “woke” culture and a vocal defense of traditional values and American strategic interests.
