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Jay Nash
Views.
David Dobrik
What's up, guys? Welcome back to Views. Guess who's back. My co host, Becca again.
Jay Nash
Jay Nash is back.
David Dobrik
How did you feel? Did you feel like you were sitting in like the cuck's chair listening to.
Jay Nash
The pot without you Christmas night? Yeah, I enjoyed it quite, quite a bit.
David Dobrik
It was like someone was hooking up with your wife right in front of you.
Jay Nash
I enjoyed it quite a bit. And I was like, he's going right to high school. I know it. Yeah, the old standby.
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Jay Nash
But I mean, Al, were you jealous? And I became friends, dude.
David Dobrik
I was really excited. Cause I was like, it's so funny. Cause I know Taylor and Alex really well. Obviously. I've known each of them for over seven years. Alex, whatever, 13. And when we started doing the pod, I'm like, I can't wait to ask him about high school. I haven't asked him before, but there's something about the podcast where I'm like, he probably has something new that I haven't heard. My favorite. He did my favorite game that I'll play with like, Alex is like, who can say a name that like, rocks the person's brain the hardest? So like, like, I'll be like Brittany Koza from, like, from high school. You did it. And then. Yeah. And then we'll be like, okay, that's a good one. That's a really good song.
Jay Nash
You do that with me with Vine.
David Dobrik
With vine, you'll.
Jay Nash
You'll pull out an old vine name and I'll be like, oh, Andrew Marbach. Yes.
David Dobrik
I was just gonna say Andrew Marbach again. Yeah, Andrew Marbach is one. If you're listening, throw a Vine name out for me. Maybe even the listeners.
Jay Nash
Like Jerry Perp Drake.
David Dobrik
Wow. Okay, that's. That's your. Your teetering on, like, super mainstream.
Jay Nash
Yeah, he's pretty mainstream. I have a great Jerry Perp Drake story.
David Dobrik
What? I feel like you've said this before. Have I?
Jay Nash
What happened when we went to Ford. We all got hired at vine to go to Ford.
David Dobrik
You all got hired.
Jay Nash
Yeah, we all got hired to get hired. We all sat around and we wanted to see who had the biggest boner. But no, we all got hired to go to Ford and go to the car show in Detroit, and we all were making vines, and we all did our job. And then at the end of the day, there was, like, still time before the flight. So they were like, we're gonna take you over to Ford. And then the people at Ford, like, treated us like kids. They were like, okay, now you have to, like, listen to us. And Jerry Burbshank was like, I don't need to listen to this. He's like, I already. I already did my work.
David Dobrik
That's really funny.
Jay Nash
That's so funny. And so the guy from Ford is like, yeah. So basically, we take fiber optics and we do regenerative braking and blah, blah, blah.
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Jay Nash
And Jerry just turns his. He just turns his chair, and he just faces the other way. That's really like, hello.
David Dobrik
Hello.
Jay Nash
You have to listen to this. You have to listen. We have you here. And it was like, no, he doesn't. Dude, we're done.
David Dobrik
That's really.
Jay Nash
It was really funny.
David Dobrik
Why that's like, double, triple, quadruple funny, in my opinion, is because vine was the first taste of, like, celebrity influencers. Yes. I got, like, YouTube wasn't. YouTube was so niche where they, like, you weren't like, how do I explain it?
Jay Nash
It's just its own world. And it wasn't necessarily. Everybody watched YouTube.
David Dobrik
YouTube also didn't come with egos, I feel like. Right. Yet, like, YouTube was like. It was, like, so niche. Were like, the people on there were still. They were. Everyone on YouTube was kind of like, I'm at home making a video. But, like, vine was like, everyone blew up so quickly. We're like, yeah. You had, like, a Jerry who was. Who is almost the same attitude of a rapper.
Jay Nash
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
David Dobrik
Like, it was like he would maybe buy himself something really nice or, like, he'd flex the chain. Like, there were Viners that would, like, flex a chain. Not. Not Jerry specifically. That would flex a chain or flex a car, but. And that wasn't One thing with YouTubers, I feel like, yet. So, like, Viners were the first ones to do it.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
Which is really interesting. And, like, Jerry turning his chair is like, the. Like, no YouTuber would do that at the time. That is only, like. That is only. I just blew up about a year ago, and I'm on top of the world right now, and you go fuck yourself. Because you already paid me?
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
Wow, that's really funny. How much were they paying you for that brand deal?
Jay Nash
I think I made like 10 grand.
David Dobrik
Really?
Jay Nash
Yeah. To go there and like hang out at the Ford Auto Show.
David Dobrik
Do you remember when King Bach got that Jimmy John's deal?
Jay Nash
I remember hearing it was a hundred grand.
David Dobrik
Yeah. Cause all of vine was like, everybody was just like, fucking.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
Everybody's like, have you seen his Jimmy John Steel? Have you seen his Jimmy John Steel? It was a big, big fucking deal. Yeah.
Jay Nash
Bachelor's of shit. I mean, he still is, but.
David Dobrik
Yeah. No, but that was like, that was the biggest vine deal at the time, dude. Those top guys on vine were making so much. Were making so much money. Yeah.
Jay Nash
Who else? Logan Batch. Marcus Johns made a lot.
David Dobrik
Marcus Johns, Lily Pons.
Jay Nash
My favorite ponds. Yeah.
David Dobrik
My favorite story with Lele Pons is me and Alex Prank called her because we found her number from like a hacker once, and Lele picked up. I thought it was so cool. So rude of me. But that is what happened. Marcus Johns. Marcus Johns was the first Viner to hit a million followers.
Jay Nash
He was.
David Dobrik
Which is such a big deal. Yeah, yeah. And he came over to play pickleball with me like a couple of months ago.
Jay Nash
I saw him.
David Dobrik
Yeah.
Jay Nash
Talk to him.
David Dobrik
Really? That's a really crazy guy to see because it's that. And that was like the first time I've met him. Yeah. You know how crazy that is? Like, I idolized this guy. I was. I had 5,000 followers on Vine. Yeah. And he was hitting like 750,000, which was like, way ahead of the pact.
Jay Nash
Actually.
David Dobrik
No, he was probably already at a million. And like, I idolized this guy so much. Like, I was like, this is the king of Vine. This is the king of Vine. And. And. And then I moved out because of vine and I didn't meet him for fucking 12. You never met him? No.
Jay Nash
Oh, he used to come over my house and play with my kids and.
David Dobrik
Yeah. Cause you were in the popular vine group.
Jay Nash
Yes.
David Dobrik
You were like the. You were like the B list of the A list, right?
Jay Nash
Yes, the B list of the A list.
David Dobrik
Like, that's where you were. You were probably like. Yeah, that's funny. You ran with like the coolest people on Vine.
Jay Nash
I have the funniest video of. We did a whole day. Me, Paige, Kennedy, Disturm, Kennedy, King, Bach. They were all over at Marnie's house, like my ex wife's house, which was a nice house, you know, And I used to have the funniest like, interaction of Marnie coming home from work and all of them leaving at the same time. Marnie being like, oh, hey, hi. Okay.
David Dobrik
Hi.
Jay Nash
And they're like, okay, see you later, Marnie. Okay, see you later. It's so fucking funny.
David Dobrik
That's really fun. Yeah. Your wife was. What did your wife think about Vime?
Jay Nash
She was just like, oh, my God.
David Dobrik
Yeah. Until when? Like, what was the moment where she was like, wait, you just made $10,000 at the Ford Convention?
Jay Nash
Yeah. I don't think she ever understood it. I think when I told her that I. Making money, the first one was to go to a hangover thing in Vegas. And I was like, yeah, it's like, it's like, you know, $7,000. And she was just like, you're lying. Like, no one's. No, no one's going to pay you that.
David Dobrik
Wow.
Jay Nash
No one.
David Dobrik
I'm so grateful that we were there at the beginning of, like, social media, so I'm so, so thankful for it. Like, yeah, like, I. This wasn't too long ago, but, like, I would get offended when people would say that I'm going to get content somewhere. Like, I hated that word, right? I'm not getting fucking content. Like, I'm going to live my life and also filming it. Like, I, I. And I truly believe this to this day.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
And, like, there was no differentiating for me. Like, like, the joy I had of real life and making videos. There is. There's no moment that, like, felt like, begrudging. Like, I was, like, going into 9 to 5. So when someone said it was 100% work. Right? It was 100% work. But, like, it was such passion work where, like, when someone called content and I was going to get content, I was, like, offended. And now that's the phrase that, like, influencers use about themselves. They're like, they'll be like, first I woke up and then I got. I went to go shoot some Content with Friends, and I'm like, I don't know why, but it, like, irks me. Now, what do you think of.
Jay Nash
What do you think of when you see, like, a, like a mainstream celebrity, like, grinding it out now on socials?
David Dobrik
It just depends. Like, there's, like, mainstream celebrities that do it really well. Like, one of my favorites is Stanley Tucci.
Jay Nash
Oh, yeah?
David Dobrik
Have you seen him do it?
Jay Nash
No.
David Dobrik
Oh, he, like, does, like, cooking videos.
Jay Nash
Well, he has, like, a big show on cnn, right?
David Dobrik
He took. That's a bald guy, right?
Jay Nash
Yeah, he took Bourdain Spot, basically.
David Dobrik
Oh, great. So he does that Exact same thing on TikTok.
Jay Nash
And he's cooking.
David Dobrik
Yeah.
Jay Nash
Are they cut downs of the show like new TikTok?
David Dobrik
No, no, no. It's just straight up off his phone and you're in his kitchen and he's like talking really slow and it's just like really captivating and like when you.
Jay Nash
See something on socials and it's like shot really well. Don't you prefer it shot on the phone?
David Dobrik
I think it depends. It's case by case.
Jay Nash
Right.
David Dobrik
So I just did a brand deal with Microsoft. Yes.
Jay Nash
Perfect example.
David Dobrik
And they wanted to do it on like these nice cameras. And I'm like, I don't think I work on nice cameras.
Jay Nash
Right.
David Dobrik
Like I, I like an Alex Earl works on nice cameras.
Jay Nash
Uh huh. Although she has, she has like a lo fi podcast.
David Dobrik
No, she has low fi. But I think she's so pretty and she's so like captivating to look at. Where I think it's nice to see her. It's nice to see her like sharpened, elevated. Yeah. But, but for me, I don't think people, like, I don't think people look at me and they're like, I want to see David on the highest level of platform and like, I want to see him in the highest quality. Like, I think people like the more like we're just hanging out. This is shot on the cell phone vibe with me. So I don't think, I think Alex blew up so quickly.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
Where like people love to see the progression of her. Yeah. So they get excited to see the high quality stuff with her, if that makes sense. Yeah. Like me, I think I've been doing this for way too long where people are like, yeah, like, okay, I've seen him do this high quality stuff, but I just want to see him do like this, like, I don't know, do his thing. That's the way I perceive it. I don't know. I think it applies to like different people. And then I also then what you say about celebrities doing social media. It's like, it's definitely like case by case. Like there's like, you ever see like press tours and like you'll see like Chris Pratt with like two of his co stars, like making a, even just making a phone vertical video being like, go see the movie.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
It's gonna be like they make some kind of a joke.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
Like that's like really cheesy. But also like they, they have to do so much press. Yeah. We're like, they don't give a fuck. Like they like, like you know, like they don't give a fuck to make a TikTok video and I don't blame them.
Jay Nash
What about when you get asked to jump in a TikTok that you don't want to be in?
David Dobrik
It depends. Is it a random person or is it you guys? If it's you guys, I don't want to do it. So John's mom has this TikTok account.
Jay Nash
Really?
David Dobrik
John's mom, like Filipino mom has this incredible TikTok account.
Jay Nash
Really? Fuck.
David Dobrik
I don't even want to talk about it because, like I want to randomly show up on it.
Jay Nash
Right?
David Dobrik
But like she does these like, incredible. She's so good at it. Like she's like genuinely having fun.
Jay Nash
Wow.
David Dobrik
It's like, you know, like with like. Like you see a TikTok from a different country and it's just like a person, like the phone quality is a little different. So you could tell it's not like, like the most sharpen and it's like. And it's just someone just having genuine joy making videos. That's what John's mom is what make videos about. It's like so. So one is like, it's all songs. So the latest one I saw is her dancing to Taylor Swift. Sophilia.
Jay Nash
Really?
David Dobrik
You know that song? Yeah, it's a girl. It's incredible. It's just her dancing and like, wow. It's like a very like nice like mom dance and like I really want to be in that. I really want to be in a TikTok with her. I don't want her to tag me or anything. I just want to be in it. I don't want people to know how I have any correlation to John's mom. So that's something I'm excited to do. When we go to the Philippines, that's going to be on the top of my list.
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Jay Nash
Oh, I watched. As a favor to you, I went and I watched all the Avenger trailers this morning.
David Dobrik
What?
Jay Nash
Yeah, just so I could be like.
David Dobrik
What do you mean? As a favorite, I thought I should.
Jay Nash
Go and look what you're so excited about.
David Dobrik
But haven't you seen movies?
Jay Nash
Well, I.
David Dobrik
They.
Jay Nash
I saw. I watched the Thor trailer. Does Spider man have his own movie coming out?
David Dobrik
What are you doing? Oh, the new ones, yeah. Oh. So what's interesting? Did you see what they. So, okay, okay, this is interesting. What happened with the trailers? So Disney was taking down the trailers? Yeah, because it was leaked. Some guy in the movie theater went in and recorded the trailer off the screen. Because, like, obviously they send in the trailers a week before it comes out. So this guy posted it on TikTok. So I saw it leaked. And like, I saw, you know, scene by scene, how was. I saw the whole thing. And then obviously if you post that on YouTube. Yeah, it gets taken down. So what someone did is they recreated the exact trailer, but with AI to the point where it was almost indistinguishable. But it wasn't Disney made anymore. It was AI.
Jay Nash
What? So, like, so what I watched this morning is not.
David Dobrik
There's a good chance you're. The Thor trailer you probably watched.
Jay Nash
I watched Thor, Spider Man, Dr. Doom.
David Dobrik
Thorne. Spider man are AI Dr. Doom. AI Dr. Doom. You couldn't have watched the Dr. Doom trailer?
Jay Nash
I watched it.
David Dobrik
No, no, that was AI. That was 100% AI.
Jay Nash
Really?
David Dobrik
But what was interesting about, like, the. The Captain America trailer that came out was it was AI, but it was 100% accurate to the real trailer that was leaked. So. So he recreated scene by scene, using AI in three hours, it leaked. And then three hours later it was up. And I remember because I watched it, I clicked. I'm like, oh, wow, it's up on YouTube. It looks crystal clear. But, like, things were off. Like, really. Like, you can see the reflection of Captain America in the window. Or the way he takes his bike helmet off is backwards rather than it is. He just. He's not putting it on the bike, he's taking it off the bike. And it was all. Because it was replicated by AI, But. And it's crazy. There's nothing he could do about it. There's nothing Dizzy could do about it because it's like. It's like, yeah, it's the idea, but it's not made by them at All.
Jay Nash
Wow.
David Dobrik
Yeah. That's how scary.
Jay Nash
Spider Man. A movie coming out. Is that.
David Dobrik
Yeah, Spider Man. Well, no, the movie will be real, but yeah, if you're seeing a trailer, how did you see it?
Jay Nash
I went on YouTube. I typed in Marvel.
David Dobrik
Yeah, no, that's AI. Did you see it?
Jay Nash
Thor, too?
David Dobrik
The only Spider man trailer that you could see.
Jay Nash
What about the David Dobrik Avengers trailer that I watched? Is that real?
David Dobrik
No, that's real.
Jay Nash
That's real. Okay.
David Dobrik
Yeah. I'm working on something with Tony. Tony Stark.
Jay Nash
Oh, I see.
David Dobrik
Yeah, I see. Could you imagine?
Jay Nash
You should make one.
David Dobrik
That'd be really sick.
Jay Nash
Just put it on your channel.
David Dobrik
What do you think would upset people, like, the most? Like What? Collaboration. Like Mr. Beast X. The Avengers. Something that's realistic. Yeah, like what? Like what? Like what could you. What would ruin a franchise? The best. Did you see that?
Jay Nash
There's do six, seven.
David Dobrik
Did you see. Okay, no. Well, in Endgame. In Endgame, Thor was playing Fortnite.
Jay Nash
Oh, wow.
David Dobrik
Which was crazy. Isn't that crazy? Like, to this day, I thought it was one of those things that they were gonna swap out after the theaters. Yeah, but like, to this day, you watch Endgame.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
And Thor is playing Fortnite. How fucking crazy is that?
Jay Nash
Why is that so crazy?
David Dobrik
Because Fortnite's a thing that's, like, baked in reality. Like some. A real human being invented Fortnite not too long ago and they got put into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I think that's kind of fucking insane. No, Fortnite is like. It's so like. It's not like Pepsi or anything. It's like a fucking video game that's like, for like 16, 18, 20 year olds. I don't know. I think that's so bizarre.
Jay Nash
Did you go to Avatar?
David Dobrik
The premiere?
Jay Nash
Did you go and you were so excited to see Avatar?
David Dobrik
Yeah, I went to go see it.
Jay Nash
How was it?
David Dobrik
It was great. It was three hours and 15 minutes. I have. Yeah, I have some. Whoo. Yeah, it was good.
Jay Nash
3 hours and 15 minutes.
David Dobrik
Did you go see it?
Jay Nash
Of those. Those androids, their eyes are too far apart. I don't like the way their eyes are.
David Dobrik
Really? No.
Jay Nash
So far apart.
David Dobrik
No. And this one had a really hot new avatar.
Jay Nash
Oh, really?
David Dobrik
Oh, my. The one that, like, represented the fire and ash colony was so fucking hot.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
Yeah.
Jay Nash
Nice boobs, Jay.
David Dobrik
I'm not a boob guy, first of all. Okay.
Jay Nash
Nice butt.
David Dobrik
Don't objectify the avatars.
Jay Nash
You just said they're hot.
David Dobrik
Yeah, She's a beautiful woman. A beautiful woman, even though she's evil.
Jay Nash
I saw Superman and I loved it.
David Dobrik
Oh, the new one.
Jay Nash
It's so good.
David Dobrik
Yeah.
Jay Nash
Did you see it?
David Dobrik
Yeah, Yeah.
Jay Nash
I thought it was crazy good.
David Dobrik
Well, you know what's happening is James Gunn's redoing that whole universe.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
So did you know that?
Jay Nash
No.
David Dobrik
Okay. Do you know who James Gunn is? So everybody. So everybody.
Jay Nash
Guardians.
David Dobrik
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody's being Every. Every character is being recast.
Jay Nash
Well.
David Dobrik
And that's the first movie of all the. Of all the new DC movies.
Jay Nash
You know what I liked about it? There was, like, a lot of nuance in it. Like, he had the Justice Gang, which is, like, good, but they're also, like, kind of douchey.
David Dobrik
Oh, yeah, I did like that.
Jay Nash
So funny.
David Dobrik
I did like, the Justice. Were they called the Justice Gang? Is that what they went by? I think Justice Gang. Yeah.
Jay Nash
Or Justice. And I think that was kind of a joke. Like, the name kind of sucked.
David Dobrik
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that guy at the end liked the name, and he's like, you're in. Yeah, yeah. No, I really liked it.
Jay Nash
It was great. I like that.
David Dobrik
What'd you do for Christmas, Jay?
Jay Nash
I went to Boston. I played Quiplash the entire time.
David Dobrik
Dude. I played Quiplash too.
Jay Nash
You did? Quiplash is great.
David Dobrik
Dude. I know. My sister listens to this.
Jay Nash
Yeah. How'd she do?
David Dobrik
Dude, my siblings aren't good at it.
Jay Nash
Were you crushing?
David Dobrik
I wasn't crushing because I didn't. I don't hang out with them enough where I have things to pull from.
Jay Nash
Right.
David Dobrik
Like, it's very easy with. With people that you live with because you have in, like, incredible amount of inside jokes. Yeah, but with my siblings, like, my brother and my sister kept saying the same thing, and they kept saying, like. They kept saying, like, suck my dick, and they would spell dick. D I H. Yeah. And. Or they said stuff with dick, and, like, it was all dick jokes. And I was like, what?
Jay Nash
You're trying to get on that? Then you try it when it's your turn.
David Dobrik
I had to start playing it like that.
Jay Nash
That's right.
David Dobrik
How does your Quiplash game go?
Jay Nash
Oh, incredible. Why? I pulled out the Ligma. He used Ligma as a joke.
David Dobrik
For people that don't know, Quips is a game you can play on your tv. Everyone in the room connects their phones, and basically they give you a prompt. So it's, like, the stupidest thing to go to jail for. Yeah. And then. And then everyone has to type in something funny, and then Anonymously. All those things will pop up on the TV and you have to choose what. What you think is the funniest. Yeah.
Jay Nash
You're playing on your phone.
David Dobrik
Yeah.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
I didn't like what my brother started doing. I was pissing me off, was like, my brother didn't want me to win.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
So my brother purposefully, like, saw something funny and was like, I'm not picking that. And I'm like, I think people do do that. I know people do that. It's like a regular quip thing. And I do that too. Like, I do that, like when I'm playing with John, like, and John's in the lead. Like. I know, I know which ones are John's. Right. Like, obviously they're misspelled. They're either misspelled or like, you know, it's like a John joke. Like, John would reference this.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
And then. Yeah, then you stop. That's. That's the key of Quiplash is like, to win you have to speak as someone else sometimes.
Jay Nash
Right.
David Dobrik
Because people selfishly don't want a certain person to win. So you have to like really disguise yourself in the game. That's why it's such a genius thing. Yeah, but how was your.
Jay Nash
Why it gave Ligma as an answer.
David Dobrik
Ligma balls.
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Jay Nash
And so of course my mother's like, Ligma, what's. What's Ligma Fucking dying or.
David Dobrik
That's really funny.
Jay Nash
For like five minutes.
David Dobrik
Did you see it coming? You know Ligma, right?
Jay Nash
I know Ligma is.
David Dobrik
Yeah.
Jay Nash
Because he. Yeah, I got it.
David Dobrik
That's really funny.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
Who won the Quiplash games?
Jay Nash
My sister in law won. I was up 2 0. I won the first two games and then I think they didn't want me to win. I think they.
David Dobrik
Well, the third round is worth all the points.
Jay Nash
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when you get a quiplash, that's so exciting.
David Dobrik
Yeah. When everyone votes for you.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
Jay Nash
I had. What was it? The worst. The worst type of assistant and I had assistant to Jeff Epstein and that one got me a quiplash.
David Dobrik
Really?
Jay Nash
Yeah. Dave's like, that's not funny. I mean, you know, you never know what's going to get you the quip lash.
David Dobrik
I put Jeff Epstein and a couple of my answers, like kind of slid them in there and it didn't play. It didn't play. So I'm shocked that that got you in. All. All hands on deck win. Yeah. Wow.
Jay Nash
I was playing with older people.
David Dobrik
Oh, you really have to know your crowd. Yes, you're right. Older people. Epstein joke probably crushes, right? I think. I think it's like too played out with the younger generation.
Jay Nash
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're so heavy. Epstein, I think, I think.
David Dobrik
Yeah. I think all you hear is about Epstein. But, like, I think if you're older, the Epstein thing is like. Is like less of a joke. It's like, oh, I grew up with these presidents.
Jay Nash
Joey showed me a meme. I don't know if you've probably seen it. I thought it was the funniest thing I ever seen. It was like somebody. Somebody was wishing someone else happy birthday and they wrote, cake and candles, my N word. Have you seen that?
David Dobrik
Wait, wait, wait. Cake and candles, my N word.
Jay Nash
It's like a text exchange between two people. Someone writes. Someone writes, cake and candles, my N word. He's just basically wishing them happy birthday and then the other. And then the person's like, can you just be normal? Can you just say happy birthday? That's what the text exchange says. And then the guy writes back, balloon. You didn't see that?
David Dobrik
No, because Charlie showed it to me.
Jay Nash
And Wyatt was like, oh, yeah, I've seen that. That's really like, huh. But it's so hard to like.
David Dobrik
It's really funny. Like, like how humor. How different humor is. Yeah, like. Like, like I just hung out with my brother. Yeah. And like a catchphrase he says a lot, like, non stop. You won't even know this. You don't even know this because this is like so deep. Internet culture. But like, I'm lucky enough where I. I'm still picking it up, what he's saying, but, like, I'm shocked that he's using it day to day. He goes, fuck. Have you seen that? Have you seen. That's like a. You haven't seen that sound like, on it? Oh, yeah. How does it go? You probably can do it better. I know I. Fuck. You know? I mean, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. But it's like I've never heard anybody do it good. To the point where the second time he said it, I knew what he was saying. The first time I was like, is that a reference to. Because it's. It's the sound. It's. It's some guy saying fuck. But there's like a lot of reverb. And it's like when something bad happens, like, it'll panda somebody and instead of using the imovie sound, it'll be like, fuck, yes. But like, I've never heard like a human say it. And my brother was saying, and I'm like, damn, this is like such a different world. Like, like, it's so funny. Like, and every time I see my brother, it's like every couple months, like, whatever, for like an occasion or he'll come by the house and it'll be something new that he's like, that he's like, picked up on. And it's very, it's very trendy. Like, kids, like, kids his age speak to the trends that are happening online. It's very interesting. Like, to me, they're just trends. Right. But to him, it's changing his language. As time is going, like, is going through. It's really interesting.
Jay Nash
Yeah. Have you ever seen what a streamer will look like in 20 years? Have you seen projections?
David Dobrik
No.
Jay Nash
Like, like hunched back and like long fingers and like hook nose.
David Dobrik
That's really funny. So good, so good, so good.
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David Dobrik
I've been thinking about. Okay, so I've been having this dilemma and actually the podcast listeners can help me with this. So. And I want to, I want to like, change the way I make videos. Have I told you this?
Jay Nash
Yeah, you've mentioned it.
David Dobrik
So, like, I really want to, like. Okay, so I had this idea where like it's not really an original idea, but I assume like once I do it, it will be original because like I'll put like my own, like my own voice onto it. But like, I want to like make. Okay, I want to take like a trip to, to, to like let's say to Rio de Janeiro. Like that's like an exciting trip. And like, you know how like I'll have like a brand deal attached to a video?
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
And it'll be like, it'll be like someone will be getting a gift. I'll use all the money, most likely on a gift. And like, I was thinking like, instead of using the money on a gift, like, why not use all the money for the production of the video? And that doesn't mean that the videos are gonna look like Marvel movies, but that means that I bring two camera people with me, which is very expensive to bring to another country. To bring two camera people with you to hire them for work and to house them and to fly them and to feed them is very expensive, is the equivalent of a car. So like, instead of like getting someone a car, like why don't I bring Ferris out who could film and then another filmer to like Brazil and shoot a vlog that's like highbrow and it's like drone shots. And it still has like the life of the videos that I have. Like, so it has like the fun music, the fun energy, but it's more like hangy outy. Like it's more like. It's like a 25 minute vlog, but it's like shot, you know, it's like you're there for the full adventure.
Jay Nash
I think a longer video would be really good for you.
David Dobrik
I don't know, I just think it's like time to do some kind of a different video.
Jay Nash
I think so too.
David Dobrik
And it's kind of like, it's kind of exhausting the videos we shoot. Like I'm editing this video that we just shot, right. That I'm posting on the first. It's just like your typical vlog and I'm like cutting things out of it that I'm like, eh, this isn't that funny. But it's kind of cool to like see. Like, like the jokes that I feel like a lot of times are really funny in vlogs are the ones that aren't like, like, okay, so like right now when I edit a vlog, I only put in the moments I laugh at that I genuinely find so funny.
Jay Nash
The very, very best Cream of the crop jokes you put in.
David Dobrik
Yeah. And you throw out a lot for us. Not like best jokes for, you know, like best jokes that happened that week.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
So like I only put in the things that I'm laughing at. Hence why you always hear me laughing at the end of things. But I think like you say, you especially say so many funny things.
Jay Nash
Right.
David Dobrik
That like, is just so normal to me because I'm with you. But it's like, but it's so, it's like. So I don't laugh at it per se, but I know it's funny.
Jay Nash
Sure.
David Dobrik
And like, I think it would, I think it like, I think like the, the softer jokes would make the harder jokes hit better too. So like I, I think it's kind of like, it's kind of interesting. Like I like hanging out with you guys in reality. Right. What I'm trying to say.
Jay Nash
Right.
David Dobrik
So like, why don't I depict that reality to the best of my abilities and like show everything.
Jay Nash
Yeah, yeah.
David Dobrik
So show like a moment we're arguing, nothing funny happens.
Jay Nash
Right.
David Dobrik
We're arguing, we go to the next scene and then maybe you say like a little small dig at Natalie. No one laughs, but it just continues to the next thing. Now we're boarding the plane.
Jay Nash
I think that's a really good idea. I mean, I'm begging you to do more, to show more.
David Dobrik
And I also don't want to hold the camera. I want to like. I kind of like the idea of having two camera guys and like. And why I say it's not original. It's because it's going to, it's going to be shot like a nelk video would be or like any live streamer's video or any YouTuber's video. But I'm going to, it's going to be mine, so it's gonna feel like me, but it's going to be like I just, I don't know. And I don't know necessarily the twist I'm gonna put on it. Cause I still wanna make it very much a David video. But I just like the concept. I want a high def video. I want something shot so clean, so clear. And I think where we're at today and the whole consuming things, I think people like longer things. I don't know.
Jay Nash
That was Charlie's criticism of your videos.
David Dobrik
Really?
Jay Nash
Yeah. She was like, why is it so short? She's like, people just want to hang out with David. They just want to see what you guys are up to.
David Dobrik
Yeah. I think the short stuff worked too When I was doing three a week. And it's like. Yeah. And like I was saying back, it's too much. It's so much pressure to like, to try to get to that. The funniest joke in the funniest place. Like, it's like, we'll be like. We'll be. Let's say we'll be at a castle in Hungary and it looks. Everything looks really cool. And then we'll just sit outside the castle and we'll be like, how can we make something outside of the castle funny when like. It shouldn't be like that. It should just be like, let's go into the castle. And like, anything that happens outside of the castle, we. You. I don't know, it should just be like, more. There's so much pressure in like making these videos where like, let's make. Let's get a joke where everything we naturally do is just funny. Cause that's just how we interact. But like, I hold like certain jokes to such a standard that I. I don't want to anymore.
Jay Nash
Or like the ice hotel. We couldn't come up with a joke. And everyone's trying.
David Dobrik
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good example. We went to the ice hotel and nothing funny happened. But like, we should have just walked through the ice hotel and like, the lamest comment should have made it in. And it should have just been like. It should just be like, Beats. I don't know. So like, I wanna. I don't know.
Jay Nash
Maybe that's up to you, though. That's up to you. You gotta. You have to let. Let more out there.
David Dobrik
Yeah. I also think I wanna do like a video a month.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
Where like, I don't want to do it every two weeks. But like, I want to do like, you know, where we go to a video where we go to fucking. Yeah. Where we go to Rio. It's shot really nicely.
Jay Nash
And I wonder if you could package 12 videos this year in a certain way. Like, whatever it is. It's like one country each video.
David Dobrik
Well, that's what. That was my idea of going to a. Of Liv. This was. I don't know if I said it on the pod. I think I did. Living in a different country for 30 days.
Jay Nash
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
David Dobrik
And making 12 videos this year. But that's such an exhausting idea.
Jay Nash
Well, Maybe it's just seven days in a country for 12 times and then you have three weeks, you're back here, editing of the month. I think that would be doable.
David Dobrik
I think what's going to Happen is I think January, I'm going to post a video on the first. I think maybe I'll post another vlog. Two weeks after that, maybe in February I'll post another vlog. Or I'll. Or yeah, yeah. Or I'll post one more vlog. And then February, we have a plan to go to Brazil because we really want to go with our two friends who are from Brazil.
Jay Nash
Yeah. And I think what's going to happen there. Is that like Carnival or anything like that?
David Dobrik
No, I'm trying to go after Carnival.
Jay Nash
Is Carnival bad?
David Dobrik
It's just like.
Jay Nash
I mean, is it too busy?
David Dobrik
So busy, Yeah. I don't like being in countries when people from other countries are going there. I don't know why. I just like, think it ruins the country for me.
Jay Nash
Yeah. Yeah.
David Dobrik
Like, it's like I fudgeing. Hate fashion weeks in Paris. Yeah. Because all of L. A in New York is in Paris and I'm seeing the same exact people. And all the locals are scared to go out because it's. Everything's overpriced and it's like. It's just like hell. It's hell to get around. Everything is tied ties. The price.
Jay Nash
You got the real Sweden.
David Dobrik
Yes, I got the real Sweden.
Jay Nash
There was nobody there.
David Dobrik
There was nobody in Sweden. Not even the locals.
Jay Nash
Yeah. Four hours of daylight.
David Dobrik
Yeah.
Jay Nash
Locals are gone.
David Dobrik
So. Yeah. So, yeah, I think. I think in February, maybe I'll take like a month to make a video. It'll be. It'll be less funny. It'll be longer. Yeah. But it'll be more like hanging out. I don't know. And I'm gonna post it once. And if people hate it, if people are like, hey, maybe you're onto something, then I'll do it again. I don't think I'll be able to do it every month, but I think I'll plan one, like every three months.
Jay Nash
Right.
David Dobrik
Or maybe I'll get a specific sponsor that'll be just associated with those videos. So, like, I'll be like, okay, these are the Microsoft videos, which feels kind of right. It's like Microsoft highbrow. Like you. Whatever it is. Like, it'll be like a specific sponsor tied to these highbrow videos. That could be very interesting. I don't know.
Jay Nash
That'd be fun. I think it is time for you to do something like that.
David Dobrik
Yeah. And I just like. And I really, really. I hate holding the vlog camera in my hand.
Jay Nash
You do?
David Dobrik
Yes. Because it's just like. It doesn't. I just don't feel like I get to, like, do fun. Like, it doesn't. It's not like it feels very much like it used to be this, like, cute and fun thing. But I think, like, influencing has, like, it's just got. Everyone's doing it. So, like, I want to be in the videos more where I could shed myself of actually holding.
Jay Nash
Well, didn't you try to do that when you went around the world? You had people filming you more. So you know what that's like, right?
David Dobrik
When we did that, when you did.
Jay Nash
The 7 wonders video, it felt like that video had a lot more moments where you were. You were training, you were getting in shape, you were with Ilya.
David Dobrik
Yeah. So, yeah, I do. I think so. I think. I think a good example of what my vlog would feel like would be what that doc was like on Zila. Yeah, but that. That doc was built to be a little bit more. I mean, I use this word lightly. Educational.
Jay Nash
Yes.
David Dobrik
For the purpose of, like, working out.
Jay Nash
Yes.
David Dobrik
But mine wouldn't be any of that. Like, mine. There wouldn't be any messaging behind it. Like, I wouldn't be trying to get across, like, be healthier or whatever. So be. It'd be in the style of the docs where it's like, you know, you got your fun shots, but also, I don't know, just like a more mature version of whatever.
Jay Nash
Did you do a storyline?
David Dobrik
No, I'm not too good at that. Everyone always asks me, especially, like, people that know me are always like, why don't you make a movie? Why don't you make a movie? And, like, I just, like, don't know how. Cause a lot of, like, 80% of the ideas I have for vlogs.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
So, okay, so this is the only. This is the only reason I came up with the seven Wonders idea. Let me play it. So there was a song I heard, Crazy on youn by Dreamboat Annie.
Jay Nash
Oh, I remember this. But you didn't end up doing it.
David Dobrik
Exactly.
Jay Nash
I thought this was the best idea.
David Dobrik
Yeah. So I was like, I want to go see. I heard this song and there was seven beats in it. And I was like, what can I do with seven beats? Because I really wanted to edit to this song. And I was like, okay, Seven Wonders. So I had this idea the entire time, and here you're about to hear it. Hold on, it's coming. And I wanted every beat to be the shot of a new wonder. So this is me telling Ilya, let's go see the seven Wonders. Ilya's like, what are you crazy? That's so much. We'll never be able to do it. I'm like, dude, come on. It'll be so much fun. I don't know, Dave. I don't know if I could do it. I have work. I have to. I have to pay rent. Boom. That's one wonder. And the 2, 2, 3. And then this goes. And then. And then here it starts. Music. And now you're seeing all the wonders, right? So I was like, so excited about that. And I was like, fuck, yeah. Like, I'm gonna do the seven beats and then montage of the wonders. And then I started putting it together and I was like, this doesn't work at all for some reason.
Jay Nash
Why?
David Dobrik
It just. It was breathing too. It. Oh. And it was my fault. It didn't work because the shots itself weren't majestic enough to like, fill to match the music. It just. What? It wasn't connecting for some reason. Like the shot of the wonder. You couldn't see the wonder for too long. These beats were too far apart where it wasn't. It wasn't moving quick enough. So. So like. So I had to scrap the whole. That part of it. And I did. Instead, I did Holiday by Green Day for that montage. And because that moves so much quicker. And now I scrapped the whole idea of showing the seven wonders at once. And now I put together the wonder shots weren't interesting enough is.
Jay Nash
But I remember when you were editing it, you were like, I don't care about the wonders.
David Dobrik
Exactly.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
Because why? Because. Because I was. Because. Because the shots I got at the wonders weren't interesting enough. Hence why I'm going back to what I was saying before is why I could never make a movie is because I had this whole idea in my head shot. It executed it very poorly and then had to pivot in the edit. And like, I don't think you can do that so much when you're spending millions of dollars on production. You need a storyboard.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
And I'm really scared that I'm absolutely God awful at storyboarding because 75% of the times I have an idea in my head about something, it changes in the edit. And I don't know, maybe that's.
Jay Nash
Maybe you don't storyboard.
David Dobrik
Huh?
Jay Nash
Maybe you should storyboard.
David Dobrik
But I can't because that's just not how I think. Like, I like, that's just. Like, I just. I don't have. Like, I can't conceptualize.
Jay Nash
More documentarian. You're more out there grabbing.
David Dobrik
Like, I Guess I'm more guerrilla style when it comes to like, I like, I think, I think it's made. I think the shots. I think you could get whatever you want. And I think the video is made in the edit. 100% of the time. I don't, I don't care who's at. I don't care who's shooting it. Like, I think the video is made in the edit. That is where your voice is like produced in the edit.
Jay Nash
So I think people should know that you still edit on imovie. I think that's pretty inspiring.
David Dobrik
Yeah, it's like.
Jay Nash
Because to me it's like, oh, he edits an imovie and he does. The videos are that good. That means anybody could like you go to the Mac store and make a video.
David Dobrik
Yeah, I think, I think just like a good. I don't know, like when I see, When I hear a song, I don't.
Jay Nash
Know, the song does a lot of the lifting, doesn't it?
David Dobrik
So much of the lifting. So much of the lifting. And you can have some of the dumbest moments and then you put in a fucking kick ass song. It's really cheating, genuinely. There is a genius artist on the other end that pulled from the heavens to create this beautiful song. And here I am being able to use it in my YouTube video. I think it's an honor.
Jay Nash
It goes both ways. What about the guy whose song you blew up? What was it Mika?
David Dobrik
No, no, not Micah. I've never talked to Micah, which is so sad. It's my intro song.
Jay Nash
Wait, wait, who made your intro song?
David Dobrik
I wonder if people know this. So, yeah, this artist. No, no, he was big. Mika's big. Oh, really? Yeah. You're thinking of show me what I'm looking for, right?
Jay Nash
No, no, no, I'm thinking of Mika.
David Dobrik
I didn't know Mikaela. Oh, you're not thinking of Caroline. Liar.
Jay Nash
No, I know a Carolina Liar.
David Dobrik
Yeah, Mika. See, I've yet to use this song yet and I really want to, but it's okay. So this is it. Micah, you've def. Everyone has heard Mika. But what you don't know is this part. So cool.
Jay Nash
Oh, that's good.
David Dobrik
So cool. And the only thing that that song gives me is just like either a comeback vlog or like a vlog that's ending everything. And like you like, you go into some sort of like cheesy dance sequence or like something. I've always wanted to let that intro song play out and go into something.
Jay Nash
Oh, that'd be sick.
David Dobrik
It'd Be so sick. I just can't come up with what it is.
Jay Nash
Someone will have to die, and I've had that idea. I'd have to die.
David Dobrik
No, no, this is not. This does not scream death.
Jay Nash
Well, but that would bring everybody together.
David Dobrik
Well, let me see. Let me see if I can imagine you dying with this. Hold on.
Jay Nash
Yes, I can.
David Dobrik
No. Fuck. No, Jay. Fuck.
Jay Nash
I can see it.
David Dobrik
No, I'd have to die.
Jay Nash
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd have to.
David Dobrik
So I think I'd have to die for that. Because you're. You dying would be sad, you think? I think so, yeah. I don't. I don't think your death would be, like. I don't know. For some reason, your death would be sad.
Jay Nash
Yeah.
David Dobrik
And not for some reason. Like, obviously deaths are sad, but, like, because I never.
Jay Nash
I never reached my full potential.
David Dobrik
No, just because you're older. So, like, you're like. Like, if I died.
Jay Nash
It's way sadder when a young person dies.
David Dobrik
No, not me. If I died, it'd be like, that was really fun, right? Like, you'd be like, we had a good time. Like, if you died, I'd be like, that poor soul. And I died. Like, I can totally die and, like, everything's totally good. Like, don't be sad. Like, it's like, I had, like, the fucking. I have a pickleball court I'm staring at right now while I record this podcast. I'm in my pajamas. I have my eye mask here that I got from the guest compound because I stayed at the Coachella Guest compound. Like, I've had a very fulfilling life.
Jay Nash
I've been to the guest compound at Coachella. I've done well.
David Dobrik
No, Like, I'm just, like. I don't know. I don't think, like, that.
Jay Nash
I've been there too. Huh? I've been there too.
David Dobrik
So maybe you can die too. Maybe I'm completely wrong.
Jay Nash
I was on the plane coming back, which you. You bought me a business class seat, or. I don't know if it was business or first class. I don't know what it was. It was incredible.
David Dobrik
How's business?
Jay Nash
It was business. It was incredible. My own pod. First pod guy. Woman comes up to me. Stewardess comes up to me. She goes, the wife would like to sit next to her husband. Do you mind switching? And I was like, yeah, okay. Okay. So I did it and I switched. And then I thought, well, maybe he didn't want her there, but whatever.
David Dobrik
Oh, it's really funny.
Jay Nash
So then I'm flying back JetBlue last night in economy and I'm trying to get. I have Charlie on the window, me in the middle.
David Dobrik
Wait, what do you mean? Oh, when you flew back from your.
Jay Nash
Parents house from Boston.
David Dobrik
Yeah.
Jay Nash
And Wyatt is on the window on the other side. And Wyatt's like, can we sit together? And I was like, yeah, yeah, no worries. I'll. I'll get the guy to switch. And Wyatt was like, how? And I'm like, don't worry. Like, I got this. I'm like, you just walk up and just be like, hey, my son's over there. You want to take the window? We just all want to sit together. He's like, that's how you're going to ask? I'm like, yeah, it's going to ask. Don't worry about it. I'll take care of it. Guy gets there and I go, hey, my son's over there. Would you mind just switching? You can hear. You want the window like that. The guy goes, no.
David Dobrik
Wow.
Jay Nash
And I thought my karma from the other flight would transfer over to JetBlue, but it didn't.
David Dobrik
Dude, fucked up. You have to have. You have to have seen some shit to say no to somebody switching.
Jay Nash
Well, I asked him. I go, do you pee a lot? And he goes, yeah. He goes, I just had kidney stones.
David Dobrik
Oh, wait, wait. Sorry. He was in the aisle?
Jay Nash
Yeah, he was in the aisle.
David Dobrik
Him go window.
Jay Nash
I want him to go window.
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David Dobrik
Sorry. I'm sorry. That's big.
Jay Nash
That's a big switch. I think window's better than aisle, jay.
David Dobrik
No.
Jay Nash
Why?
David Dobrik
J.P. you think people think aisle is better than window, Jay? It's very. Yes, Jay. That's like a. That's like a known thing. Like, you either want aisle or window. Ilya only sits aisle. I only say window.
Jay Nash
Really?
David Dobrik
Yeah.
Jay Nash
It's like a 50, 50 thing.
David Dobrik
100%. Yeah. And people are very passionate about the direction they're in. So you never ask an aisle person to go to window. That's really madness.
Jay Nash
Think that's madness.
David Dobrik
100%. 100%. And you were in economy? Yeah. That's like a triple doozy, like going to window in economy where there's three seats now, I don't. I would never even do that in business class where there's two seats. All right, guys, I think that's all the time we have for today's pod. Let me know what you think about my idea for different kinds of videos.
Jay Nash
And leave a comment, give us some direction.
David Dobrik
And I'm going to See you for the next one. The next. The next podcast will be. When is the next pod?
Jay Nash
Thursday.
David Dobrik
Oh, it'll be. It'll be on. Oh, my God. See you next year.
Jay Nash
Whoa. Really?
David Dobrik
Right.
Jay Nash
Hold on, let me see.
David Dobrik
Yeah, Wait. Wow.
Jay Nash
Such a confusing time of year.
David Dobrik
God, I gotta edit my vlog too. That's.
Jay Nash
Oh, my God. The first.
David Dobrik
The next vlog.
Jay Nash
The first is Thursday. The first.
David Dobrik
This is the last year of 20 or the last video.
Jay Nash
Our last part of the year, dude.
David Dobrik
Guys, send us your New Year's resolutions because I want to talk New Year's resolutions. Next pod. I'm very interested to hear them all. All right, see you guys on January 9th.
Jay Nash
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VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash
Release Date: December 30, 2025
In this episode, David Dobrik and Jason Nash dive into the evolving world of digital content creation, nostalgia for Vine days, and the challenges and ambitions David faces as he contemplates a major shift in his YouTube video style. They reminisce about early influencer experiences, discuss cultural shifts in how content is produced and consumed, and share candid observations about social media trends, viral humor, AI-created trailers, and personal stories from the holidays. The episode’s highlight is David's open brainstorming about moving towards longer, more cinematic YouTube videos that capture genuine group dynamics, inviting feedback from listeners.
David on Vine vs. YouTube:
On Brand Deals:
On Discomfort with ‘Content’:
On Social Video Style:
On AI Movie Trailers:
Family Quiplash Humor:
On Internet Trends Snaking Into Real Life:
Describing His New Video Vision:
On Audience Expectations:
Editing Confession:
This episode provides both an intimate behind-the-scenes look at David Dobrik’s creative dilemmas and a broader reflection on how internet culture, influencer authenticity, and audience expectations are evolving. David’s sincere, self-reflective discussion about wanting to break out of comedic short-form limits and embrace longer, experience-based, group-oriented storytelling is a must-listen for fans and fellow creators alike. With open invites for listener feedback, David and Jason genuinely want to know how their audience feels about these changes.
David teases New Year’s resolutions for the upcoming episode and encourages listeners to send theirs in for discussion.
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