Mount Rushmore of Youtube

Summary

Podcast Summary: VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash

Episode: "Mount Rushmore of Youtube"

Date: March 20, 2026

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Overview

In this episode, David Dobrik and Jason Nash reminisce about the early days of YouTube and Vine, debate their personal “Mount Rushmore” of iconic YouTubers and Viners, swap stories from the days before streaming killed Blockbuster, and reflect on how fame, technology, and comedy careers have changed. Their conversation bounces between nostalgia, candor, and comedy, offering insider perspectives for fans of internet culture and entertainment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Boys' Night / Gender Roles in Social Groups

• The episode opens with lighthearted banter about enjoying a “boys' night” while Natalie (David’s assistant) is away.
• David jokes about being the original connector in his friend group, lamenting being left out of “girls’ nights,” and recounts his experiences being the only guy at all-girl dinners in LA.
• Notable Quote:
  • David (on girls’ nights): “Girls night would just be—you guys are all individually by yourselves. I brought you together to form this alliance.” (02:43)

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Nightlife in LA & Miami

• The hosts discuss party culture, their preferences for club seating (“planting” at parties), and Miami’s unique club/boat scene.
• David describes pulling up to clubs and parties by boat in Miami, which felt “like an alien… landed in spacecraft.” (07:11)
• They draw contrasts between LA (more house parties post-club) and Miami’s more cinematic night experiences.

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The Mount Rushmore of YouTube

• David and Jason debate which YouTubers are worthy of being immortalized:
  • David’s picks:
    • MrBeast
    • Ryan Higa (Nigahiga)
    • Smosh
    • Shaytards (for vlogging legacy)
  • Jason’s add: David himself (“You definitely did something so different than everybody else.”) (11:50)
• They discuss the importance of daily vloggers like CTFxC (Charles Trippy), referencing his 5,500+ videos and record-breaking daily uploads.
• Notable Moments:
  • Jason admits he never watched Shaytards, prompting David to explain the allure of daily vlogging. (10:30)
  • Commentary on how TikTok’s algorithm pushes out content with few likes but wide reach. (08:32)

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The Vine Era & Vine-to-YouTube Tension

• The hosts reminisce about Vine's influential creators and their migration to YouTube, acknowledging both the tension and eventual success.
• Mount Rushmore of Viners (according to the hosts):
  • King Bach
  • Logan Paul
  • Marcus Johns (first to hit 1 million followers)
  • Lele Pons (honorable mentions: Brandon Calvillo, Rudy Mancuso, Christian Del Grosso)
• Notable Quote:
  • David: “YouTubers hated Viners… low key pissed at how much attention Viners were gaining from like six seconds.” (12:15)

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Social Media Archetypes & Pickleball Anecdotes

• The hosts reminisce about meeting Vine legends today—in particular Marcus Johns—and reflect on the once-segregated social cliques of Vine.
• Jason tells stories about his crossover between social media generations (playing pickleball with Marcus Johns), while David recalls feeling like an outsider in the OG Vine scene. (14:49)

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Monkey With a Grape & Oversized Fruit Tangent

• David introduces a whimsical thought experiment about how satisfying it looks when a monkey eats a grape, wishing for a human-sized equivalent. (16:42–18:31)
• The discussion spins into fruit engineering and crossbreeding possibilities, blending humor and curiosity.

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Blockbuster vs. Library Movies

• Jason and David reflect on the pre-streaming days of Blockbuster rentals versus library DVDs/Blu-rays.
• Memorable Quote:
  • David: “My parents would never ever pay for a movie… We had a library card.” (19:56)
• They discuss the anticipation and joy of discovering movies before everything was instantly accessible.

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Generational Shifts & Information Overload

• Jason describes conversations with his teenage kids about Russian history, demonstrating how much smarter and more informed youth can be due to internet accessibility. (23:00)
• David wonders if too much choice in media has dulled enthusiasm for movies, sparking debate about tech and societal shifts.

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The Future of Technology, Virtual Reality, and Meta Glasses

• The hosts muse about what the next breakthrough in tech might be, speculating about improved VR, failed startups (Metaverse), and Apple Vision Pro’s lack of cultural resonance. (24:29–26:44)
• David critiques the awkwardness of AR/MR glasses for social interaction, relaying a story about strangers secretly recording him in public. (27:38)

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Dating, Body Count, and Generational Changes in Relationships

• Jason opens up about his dating history, surprising David with a modest “body count” of eight. They discuss generational differences in casual sex and romance. (28:39)
• Jason reveals marriage proposals led to unexpected reactions from people in his life. (30:41)

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Jason’s Pre-YouTube Comedy Career & SNL

• Jason shares stories from his years trying to break into TV—selling a show to Fox, closely missing big breaks (like SNL), and working as an assistant alongside comedy legends.
• Notable Exchanges:
  • On SNL auditions and cast politics:
    • Jason: “You’re great in that if somebody’s funny around you, you’ll put them right in the video… but over there, they don’t see you that way. They see you as the guy that gets the coffee.” (36:30)
  • On Chris Farley’s impact:
    • Jason: “Chris Farley walks in and it’s like, even those guys were like, ‘Oh, I won’t even try.’” (38:31)
  • The challenge of moving up from assistant to talent or writer at SNL. (41:31)

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The Evolution of Comedy Careers and Platforms

• They discuss how SNL used to be a springboard to movies/TV but now alumni turn to podcasts, Patreon, touring, or digital series.
• Surge in earnings for high-profile standup comedians ($20-45 million in tours).
• On why David rarely watches streaming TV: “I don’t like when there’s multiple seasons of something… I just, like, know it’s never ending.” (45:40)

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The Rise of “Confused Watching” and Longform Streaming

• David shares that instead of scripted content, he now finds himself “watching someone’s full-day livestream for five hours” simply because it’s hypnotic, not necessarily “good.” (46:14)
• Jason suggests this is a new genre: confused, drawn-in, ambient or “hate-watching” that’s more about vibe than substance.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the evolution of the YouTube algorithm:
  “I get shocked that… TikTok’s algorithm is literally magic.” – David (09:01)
• On creator influence:
  “There’s nothing without Smosh.” – David (09:56)
• On Vine rivalry:
  “When Viners started doing really well on YouTube… This is like some sort of revenge here on these mean YouTubers.” – David (12:30)
• On SNL’s changing cultural weight:
  Jason: “SNL holds less weight now… It used to be, when you left SNL, you went into movies, shows... I don’t remember anybody in the last couple years that… gotten some blossoming movie career.” (42:39)
• On standup comedy’s hidden riches:
  “Sebastian Maniscalco’s net worth is $45 million. And you would just, like, never—That’s his net worth? I would think that’s what he made last year.” (44:53)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:43: David jokes about forming girls’ night “alliances.”
• 07:11: Miami boat party as an “alien spacecraft” moment.
• 08:32: TikTok’s mysterious, far-reaching algorithm.
• 09:56: Smosh enters “Mount Rushmore.”
• 12:15: The Vine-to-YouTube tension and resentment.
• 14:49: Marcus Johns and Vine’s “million followers” milestone.
• 16:42: Monkey with a grape analogy, desire for human-sized fruit.
• 19:56: Childhood: Blockbuster vs. library rentals.
• 23:00: Jason’s kids debate Russian history at the dinner table.
• 24:29–26:44: Next technology wave, VR, Apple Vision Pro critique.
• 28:39: Jason’s (surprisingly low) body count discussion.
• 36:30: SNL’s internal “cast system”—Jason’s audition struggles.
• 38:31: The awe surrounding Chris Farley at SNL.
• 42:39: SNL no longer a guaranteed Hollywood pipeline.
• 44:53: Explosive earnings of comedy tours.
• 45:40: David’s aversion to binge-watching serialized shows.
• 46:14: Five-hour “confused watching” of livestreams.

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Tone & Language

• The conversation is playful, self-effacing, and honest, with plenty of nostalgic storytelling and offbeat humor.
• David often plays the incredulous, enthusiastic observer, while Jason offers industry war-stories and dry, veteran comic insight.
• Both reflect a mix of awe, cynicism, and affection for internet/TV culture and each other.

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This episode is a must-listen for fans curious about the history of YouTube, Vine, media nostalgia, or the unpredictable paths of digital-age creators.

Transcript

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What's up guys? Welcome back to View. Jason is here. Everybody get excited because Natalie is not here right now.

[A]

Where? Where is Natalie?

[B]

Who cares?

[A]

Oh, you do. That's who cares. You care more than anybody.

[B]

She gets in at 1:30.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

So we have some time to just chat us boys for a little bit.

[A]

Amazing. Finally.

[B]

Just like the old days.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Women always ruin the good things.

[A]

Oh, I know. Isn't it true? Let's just go off on women right now. I. You're actually the most like defensive of women out of anybody. Anytime I like start to like complain about a woman, you're like, well, Jay, you know.

[B]

No, I'm definitely, I'm definitely defensive about women. But on a serious note.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How great is it to have like a boys night once in a while and a girl's night, you know, know, like girls need their girls nights.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And guys need their guys night. I just think it's like really cool how like refreshing that is.

[A]

But aren't you always trying to get into the girls night for sure. Yeah. That's why you like.

[B]

I know the value of a girls night. So, like, I want to be there too, experiencing all the vibes.

[A]

How many girls nights have you pushed yourself in on over the years? Three.

[B]

Well, I just try to go on Natalie's girls nights because I'm like, what's the draw there? The draw?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like the benefit of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, here's the thing. Usually like a lot of friends that Natalie has.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In LA just so happened. I don't want to say I was friends with the first, but I was friends with the first and then they become Natalie's girlfriends. So then when I'm. I'm cut out of girls Night. I'm like, what the fuck?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like I was.

[A]

You made those intros.

[B]

I made the girls night.

[A]

Yes. Girls night would be nothing without you.

[B]

Girls night would just be you guys are all individually by yourselves.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I brought you together to form this alliance.

[A]

No, when they're on girls night, are you texting, trying to find out updates?

[B]

No. I don't know.

[A]

Do you get the lowdown?

[B]

The next don't like, I don't, I don't actually go on girls nights. That was a joke. I have been to one of our mutual girlfriends birthday dinners.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was just me and 15 girls.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I didn't like that you didn't know. Especially in la, you just like, I don't know.

[A]

What are you doing when the 15

[B]

girls, like, I'll have dinner with, like, a lot of times I'll go to dinner with like three girls. Like, they're my friends. It's not just like random girls that like I'm going to the club with.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And like that I'm used to. But like 15 girls is like, it's a lot. It's like, what's going on? Is this guy a promoter? And I think that I think that scares that. And then like, I obviously I would obviously cover the bill.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I have to wiggle out of there before that. Before the bill comes.

[A]

Did you pick up the bill the night of the 15 girls?

[B]

I actually don't think there was a bill. I think it was like a comp thing.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So no.

[A]

Okay, nice. And what are you doing?

[B]

But I don't think I would I don't think I would grab the bill on 15 girls. You wouldn't unless it was Natalie.

[A]

Are you on the phone?

[B]

Are you on your phone like checking the weather app?

[A]

Yeah. Like, I don't know. Are you on Tick Tock while the girls are talking? Are you like in the combo, like.

[B]

No, I think so. What happened on that dinner day specifically? I just like, I made an announcement right when I got there. I was like, listen, like, it's looking like I'm the only guy here.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just want to let you know that I'm uncomfortable.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

And I think that and I think that that kind of set the tone. And then I was included a lot of things. By the end of the night, you're one of the girls.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

You know, you start cramping, you start yout start feeling what they're feeling.

[A]

Your cycles link up.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't know. But also, like, I just like, I Love going out with girls.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think it's mainly because, like, Ilya doesn't go out with me. So I've kind of just like, leaned into going out with girls because it's just like, girls, like, like to just sit around in their little group and I like to just sit at parties. Like, I don't like to walk around. I like to find the comfiest spot, bring a beer, get some cigarettes and just sit.

[A]

Plant yourself.

[B]

Nothing better than planting.

[A]

Nothing better when you get to a party. Like, that's what I find hard at a club is like, do you prefer standing or do you prefer sitting at the table? At a booth?

[B]

Standing or sitting at a booth? Yeah, I think people sit at booths. I think you're supposed to stand on them.

[A]

Oh, you stand on the booth.

[B]

But. But, like, what do I like doing at clubs? Clubs are hard.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Cause it's like, I like the type of clubs where, like, you have a home base and then there's also a dance floor.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So you're like, popping in and out. I don't like the clubs where there isn't a dance floor and you're just in your booth. Cause then it's really impossible to, like, do anything. And a lot of clubs in la, well, when we used to go out, like, there's just like, no space for. Not that, like, I'm like a big dancer, but, like, I want to, like, feel the music and, like, rock my body.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Side to side. But sometimes you can't do that because there's like, literally no room at these tables.

[A]

And how long do you stay at the club?

[B]

About two hours.

[A]

Two hours?

[B]

Two hours.

[A]

Any more than two hours is no good.

[B]

You leave at like 1:30. And then you always go to a house party after in la. LA is. Is house party central. The one thing I loved about visiting Miami, though that was recent is is we. We went to the club on a boat and we pulled up in the back of the club, like on our friend's, like, boat that he had.

[A]

So sick.

[B]

And then you. You dock. You walk straight into the club. It's done.

[A]

You feel like a superhero coming off water to land, right?

[B]

Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy feeling, and it's just like. It's insane. And then. And then when the club was done, we got back on the boat and then we went to two different house parties. By docking at those houses. Boats or by docking at those houses.

[A]

That's the life.

[B]

Like, it's fudgeing.

[A]

Nighttime. Nighttime or daytime?

[B]

No it's like 3:00am oh, wow. You're, like, taking the boat around the

[A]

boat at 3:00am yes. Oh, wow.

[B]

And, like, you're docking and, like, everyone's. And it's really interesting because, like, you don't ever see the front of the house, which is like such a. Like when you're entering a house, you always mostly enter through the front.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, like, having the back be also an entrance is, like, just really mind blowing.

[A]

You're pulling up and there's probably party happening on the lawn as you pull up.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Like, you're pulling up into the. It's like you're an alien that's just, like, landed in spacecraft.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, right in the middle of things. There's no, like. And there's no, like, security at the back because, like, who's pulling up in boats?

[A]

Right.

[B]

The people that belong.

[A]

At this point, just you and the cartel. That's it. You're like a drone.

[B]

Okay, I have a question for you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who do you think? I feel like you're not going to have a good answer for this.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Just because you haven't been around on YouTube long enough.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Who do you think is the Mount Rushmore of YouTubers?

[A]

Oh, the four. The four YouTubers that, like, belong at the top.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hmm. That's a good one. You'd have to put Mr.

[B]

Beast there 1,000%, but Mr. Beast.

[A]

I got one of them. Right.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, Yeah. I don't think you're gonna cut deep enough.

[A]

Jack's films.

[B]

Wow. That's really interesting.

[A]

I saw TikTok of him today.

[B]

Today. Where he was talking about that celebrity. Yeah, yeah. Where he's talking about.

[A]

Yeah, you got that, too.

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Seth MacFarlane.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Dude, I always think that's so weird. Like. So there was a TikTok Jake Shane reposted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was. It had like 1600 likes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not even. Okay. And it was him talking about. It was a girl talking about Jake Shane's favorite ice cream at Heavy Handed, which is a local spot here.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And soft serve. They have soft serve, like, dipped in chocolate. Have you seen this? Yeah. Oh, you've seen it.

[A]

The kids get it.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You've had the truck here, huh? You've had the truck.

[B]

Yeah, but I didn't know that ice cream.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I brought that TikTok up. It only had like, 1200 likes. And yeah. Julia, who lives with us, was like, yeah, I just saw that. And I was like, that's so crazy. Like. Like something could have so little Likes. But, like, so many people have seen it. Like, even the thing that you just referenced.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Didn't have that many likes. But it's weird that we were just, like, on TikTok at the same time, and we must have.

[A]

Are people not liking stuff?

[B]

No, I don't think that's what it is. I don't know. It's. I. I don't know what it is. I just. I get shocked that, like, so TikTok's algorithm is just, like. It's literally magic.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Sorry. Keep going, I guess.

[A]

Oh, like Shane Dawson.

[B]

Okay.

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I mean, like, he was Shane Dawson's.

[B]

Definitely.

[A]

He was huge. Definitely still is.

[B]

Dude, you're missing, like.

[A]

I'm thinking of one.

[B]

You're missing two. That I'm, like, shocked. Like. Okay. Mine would be Mr. Beast.

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Yeah.

[B]

Mine would be Nigahiga. Do you know who that is?

[A]

Ryan.

[B]

Yes.

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Dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes. Yeah. So he was huge.

[B]

Really good.

[A]

I remember when I did my movie, they wanted me to cast him as the lead.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He was like, the guy that, like, just, like. You were like, Damn. He's doing YouTube. Different. There's a really big.

[A]

How did he do it?

[B]

His skits were really. His skits were a little too funny for YouTube at the time.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, they were just funny enough where it's like, I can't believe I'm getting this for free.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

That's how it felt. And then, of course, I do Mr. Beast. I do Ryan Higa.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I would do. I do Smosh.

[A]

Oh, Smosh.

[B]

Yeah, I think there's. There's nothing without Smosh.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then there's. There's a fourth. Right. How many people are four or five?

[A]

Four.

[B]

Okay. So it's two different people that, like, I grew up watching. And I think this is gonna be, like, a hot take just. Cause I feel like it was a little bit. A little bit more niche. But I think it, like, started. The vlogging era is shaytards.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I remember them. They were family, right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. You got to get a family vlogger in there.

[B]

Yeah, I think. I think that's my Mount Rush, but

[A]

I've never seen the shaytards.

[B]

Really?

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

What did they do? That was so cool.

[B]

I don't know. I don't know what it was about Daily vloggers. That was so. I mean, you. Daily vlog. So I guess you kind of. You kind of get it. Like, it's like it just becomes part of your routine.

[A]

Yeah. You become really hooked in with them.

[B]

Yeah, you become so hooked in with them. And like ctfxc, I used to watch all the time this guy named Charles Trippy. We've brought this up before. I don't know how many days in a row he went like three or four thousand days in a row.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

I think he vlogged like 9 or 10 actually. Let me just. So I'm not like fucking this up. I wanna look him up right now if he still vlogs. But I watch it every day and every day he would post without fail and I.

[A]

What would he post?

[B]

He still fucking posts. Are you kidding me?

[A]

He does?

[B]

Yeah. He is 5.5 thousand videos.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

That's kind of crazy, isn't it? He does not post daily anymore.

[A]

He doesn't.

[B]

That's really crazy.

[A]

What were his videos like?

[B]

Well, now it looks like it's more family oriented, but I used to just watch it. So he. He was dating this girl named Ali or married to one. I told you about this. And then he dated another girl named Ali.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then they broke up and now he's dating a girl named Ali. I think, I think that's the lore of it. Which is pretty fucking incredible.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

But yeah, that's. I would put that up there. Who would you. Who would you finish it off with?

[A]

I put you on there, man.

[B]

No, that doesn't make any sense.

[A]

Yeah, I would put you on there because you did something that was like different enough.

[B]

I appreciate it.

[A]

I really would. Like you definitely like did something that I thought was so different than everybody else.

[B]

How about this? This is something you can definitely speak to. How about the Mount Rushmore of Viners?

[A]

Of Viners. Do you remember what's much easier for me to do?

[B]

Do you remember when vine was pivoting to YouTube?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And like YouTubers hated Viners. Yeah, YouTubers hated Viners because they were like, they're fucking lazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like this content is bullshit. And they were, they were low key pissed at like how much attention Viners were gaining from like six seconds.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When like YouTubers would do all this stuff. And then I'll never forget it when like you. When Viners started doing really well on YouTube, I was like, I was like, damn, this is like, this is. This is like some sort of revenge here on these mean YouTubers that don't like Viners. I just thought it was really interesting. I was like, wow, you guys talked all this shit and now like all these big Viners are becoming really popular on YouTube. Okay, who are Your batch. King batch. You have to.

[A]

Logan.

[B]

Logan Paul.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Okay, I'll take that.

[A]

I think he used to have like total bangers all the time.

[B]

I'll take that.

[A]

Marcus Johns.

[B]

Dude, right now we're. You know what? Actually I didn't think about it hard enough. I would put Logan there too. Marcus Johns.

[A]

Logan Lily Pons.

[B]

That's incredible.

[A]

And honorable mention, Brandon Calvillo.

[B]

Oh, that's really.

[A]

He had some really good ones.

[B]

I would put. Okay. Who else?

[A]

Rudy Mancuso. Oh, Rudy had some really good ones.

[B]

God, Rudy Mancuso.

[A]

He was really good at six.

[B]

Name some more. This is so fun. Christian Del Grosso.

[A]

Christian Del Grosso. He had some really good ones. He was funny too. He was like an actual funny person.

[B]

He was a funny person.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, like I played pickleball with.

[B]

With Marcus Johns the other day.

[A]

I saw him here.

[B]

Yeah. Which was crazy.

[A]

Same guy. You know what I mean?

[B]

Same guy.

[A]

Same guy you always knew. Sweet and just like handsome.

[B]

Here's the thing. I never knew him.

[A]

Oh. I knew him like I used to come hang out with my kids.

[B]

Marcus Johns was the. Jason. Jason was in the popular Viner community back in the time. And I wasn't because I was like 16 and I was back at home in high school and I was 50 and. Marcus Johns. Yeah. Marcus Johns was the first Viner to hit a million. And he was like the first viner to hit a million followers. Like, I, I don't, I don't think you understand what a big deal that was at the time because that was like, that was like the most trailblazing thing that was going on.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like I remember seeing that in my hometown. Just like completely mind blown at like, like, what a big impact this is. What a big deal that was. I. I still remember the day he posted. He was, it was like, it was like that rap sounds like a million. A million. A million million, whatever Is a millionaire. I think it's like a record.

[A]

Lil Wayne.

[B]

Lil Wayne. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I remember him posting a A to vine to that and I just thought it was such a big deal. And I never met him until here about two months ago. Wow. And I thought that that's so crazy because like, imagine 16 year old me who looks up to Marcus Johns and I'll never meet him. And like, I would never know in my wildest dreams that the first time I'd meet him would be after I lived in LA for almost 10 years.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

my house playing pickleball.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I thought that was so what did

[A]

you say to him?

[B]

Nothing. We just like talked. We focus on pickleball a lot. He came over. He memes. He's a really good pickleball player.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But that was just like such a crazy thing to experience. I was like, 16 year old me is like.

[A]

It's funny. You never met him?

[B]

No, I can't fathom. No, no, no. He was like. He was so untouchable to me. Like, I didn't run in those circles at all. On vine, like Mike, my coolest connection was like Zaden Heath. And then I guess you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then. And then Alex Ernst. Alex Ernst was like, kind of edgy enough. I love how they're like sections on Vine. You had like your hipsters.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You had your popular kids.

[A]

Chris Malberger.

[B]

Chris Malberger, another great name.

[A]

The name we always bring up is. What's his name?

[B]

Andrew Marbach.

[A]

Andrew Marbach.

[B]

Andrew Marbach.

[A]

He was funny.

[B]

Yeah. You had like your hipsters. You had.

[A]

And then you had your Megan Signoli.

[B]

Yes. And then you had this category, which is really interesting. You had your Evan Breen's.

[A]

Oh, very.

[B]

Your Nick Collettis.

[A]

Very funny.

[B]

Like, that's all in one, like, little. You had like the four actual funny guys.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

This was like. This was right before Zach Piona took over. Remember? Exactly.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Zach pioneer, like, became the leader of that group.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. He was really funny.

[B]

Wow. Yeah, that was. That was really interesting.

[A]

Fuck, yeah.

[B]

Did you date? I have. I have some things written down here. I want to. Actually, the biggest thing I have bolded was imagine being a monkey and holding a grape. I think I brought this up to you yesterday because I was eating grapes, but there's no fruit like that.

[A]

Can you explain a little bit more? When you said it yesterday, it was like, it's funny. But then I was like, what's he talking about?

[B]

I don't even mean like, it's fun, like, because grapes are fucking delicious.

[A]

You ever watch a monkey eat at a zoo?

[B]

Yeah, it's delicious.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's satisfying.

[B]

Yeah. They make you look at that. And that's what I'm saying. Like a tiny monkey having a grape in his hand. Like, there's no fruit that you can make that the size right now for. You know what I mean? Like, in size comparison and texture wise, I don't think there's anything that works as much as a grape works for a monkey.

[A]

I like the look at a monkey's face when he's eating. He's got that look on his face. Like, this is mine. I got it.

[B]

No, but do you understand what I'm saying?

[A]

No, I don't. I'm not listening.

[B]

I'm just saying, like, a grape is just so soft. And just watching, like, I just feel like if. I don't know. I feel this can be a lost.

[A]

Keep going. Let's just try.

[B]

No.

[A]

Try to get it in here.

[B]

I can't.

[A]

Come on. Pitch it right in the middle.

[B]

I'm just saying.

[A]

It's a monkey with a grape.

[B]

I'm just saying the texture so good. And I would kill for a fruit. That would be. That would be a monkey. Doesn't pop it in his mouth a lot. He bites like an apple.

[A]

Oh, I see.

[B]

Takes like eight bites to get through the grape. Like a big grape.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I'm like, imagine if there was the equivalent. The size equivalent of a grape. Same texture and everything, same for a human to hold. Like, that would be so fucking deli.

[A]

You want a lab engineered grape that Taylor could serve to you.

[B]

I want a grape that size of a cantaloupe, and I could bite through it. Like, grapes are so watery. It's like, literally almost liquid. Like, imagine if we could find. I don't think there's an equivalent fruit. Fruit to that. Maybe a watermelon without its. Without the peels on the out, without the green on the outside is the equivalent.

[A]

Listen, I like where you're going, and I don't think it. It's like a pipe dream. I think people. I. They could cross it. They could cross a grape with a watermelon. That could be done. What you're saying isn't so crazy.

[B]

It is crazy that we haven't, like. No one's, like, figured out, like, an oversized fruit yet.

[A]

It happens. I mean, I'm trying to think what's. What's like a.

[B]

The only people that do weird things with fruit are like. I feel like in Asia is like, they had, like, really nice fruit.

[A]

Yeah. What about a Korean pearl?

[B]

Huh?

[A]

What about a Korean pear?

[B]

I mean, that's just, like, so nice. Just like a different type of pear to me. I don't.

[A]

Oh, really? You're like an Asian pair.

[B]

Like an oversized grape.

[A]

You're looking more.

[B]

Okay, here's my next thing.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Blockbuster.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Did you get to experience that as a kid?

[A]

Course.

[B]

What was that like?

[A]

I literally went to it here and in L. A.

[B]

Was it expensive? I never did Blockbuster.

[A]

Five, six bucks to rent.

[B]

Yeah. It's ridiculous.

[A]

That's pretty good. If you had to go to a movie and pay 25.

[B]

You never had to pay $25 for a movie, Jay. Tickets for a movie were actually two people.

[A]

To go to a movie is 12 bucks. Back in the day, like I'm saying, like 15 years ago, a movie would be 12 bucks. Right.

[B]

Four bucks from where I'm from. But yeah, 675. If you wanted to go to Regal.

[A]

It's still cheaper. Still. It's still a steal. Well, but then the problem with Blockbuster, she had to bring it back.

[B]

Okay. So I never got to experience Blockbuster because it was way like my parents would never ever pay for a movie.

[A]

Oh, really? You would think that that would be like cheap entertainment.

[B]

No, we had a library card.

[A]

Could you get movies at the library?

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Oh, you could.

[B]

That was the best part of going to library.

[A]

Get DVDs of the library.

[B]

I go to the library every week.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you could check out like up to seven movies at a time.

[A]

Anything good in there, though?

[B]

It was incredible. Especially when the Blu Ray era got introduced.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I begged my parents for a PlayStation. I finally got it, which was like the craziest Christmas gift ever. And then. And they, They. I think they got it because there's also Blu Ray player. It doubled as a PlayStation and a blur player. And then we started getting Blu Ray movies. And I just remember, like, the beginning of that was there was there only be like five movies available and then there were 10. And then like, I was there for when the library first had its first Blu Rays. And we're talking like Avatar, like the OG. Oh, gee. Blu Rays. And it was a. It was a really big. You'd watch a shitty movie just because it was on Blu Ray. I think another one was a cop. Apocalypto Now.

[A]

Apocalypse Now?

[B]

No, Apocalypto now or something like that. I don't know.

[A]

Apocalypto is a Mel Gibson movie. Apocalypse now is a Francis Ford Coppola movie about war.

[B]

I think it's Apocalypto.

[A]

Apocalypto? Yeah. That's like a religious movie. I think.

[B]

I think that's the one. But that was like one of the first ones on Blu Ray. And I remember, like. Yeah, that was the best part.

[A]

How much time did you have? You take it back? Which.

[B]

Seven days.

[A]

You had seven days.

[B]

But like. And then if you miss it, it's like a day. It's like a dollar fee per day late.

[A]

But this library, did they only have one copy of Avatar or. They got a couple.

[B]

One.

[A]

Oh, so if you got Avatar you were pretty lucky.

[B]

It wasn't like that, though. It wasn't like a competitive.

[A]

Like, you were the only one maybe that knew about it.

[B]

I don't know. I don't really actually understand that. It's a really good blockbuster, I think. There were so many movies, and every movie at that time was good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you know what I mean? Like, every move, like, you. You.

[A]

Every movie was good to you because you were 14.

[B]

Yeah. And it was like the first time. I'm. Yeah. So, like, if Avatar, I wouldn't have even noticed. If Avatar wasn't there, I'd be like, let's see what we got today.

[A]

It's like, when I talk to my kids, I asked them how the movie was, they go, it was great. And, like, they've never. I've never heard them say the movie wasn't good.

[B]

Oh, interesting. So that. That still holds up to. To this day?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

Oh, I was trying to think about that. I was like, I'm. I'm like, I'm wondering what's killing our vibe for movies. Is it the movie themselves or is that Stick Tok? Cause, like, that's what made movies so good, too, is you had to, like, going to the library to get a movie.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like. Like you wouldn't look up the IMDb on your phone because you didn't have one.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You just, like, look at the COVID You'd see the picture. You'd see what it's about, and you'd be like, fuck it, I'm gonna watch this. Or I. Maybe I've heard about it. There's been a commercial for it. Or I remember I played in theaters a year ago. Remember when. To watch it at home. It took like a year.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For it to leave the theater.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So like. Like, that's how you would learn about a movie. And then you. And then I think you'd enjoy it more. Cause you, like, earned the movie. Like, you brought it home.

[A]

I was just talking about this the other day, how everything's just too easy for us now. I went to dinner with my kids the other night, and they were. I'm not trying to brag. They were so smart in the conversation that I was just like, I didn't know what the fuck they were talking about.

[B]

Wait, what do you mean, so smart?

[A]

They started talking about the history of Russian. The Russian economy and the turnover of presidents from Gorbachev to Yeltsin to Putin and how Gorbachev was exiled. They didn't execute him because they've gone through the same classes at the same school. So when Charlie talks about what she's learning in school, why it's white. I just learned it, like, three years ago or two years ago. And it was a really funny moment. They were, like, talking about that, and I was, like, so tired because he came home from Rio. And then I said it at the wrong time, but I just go, did you guys see Roofman?

[B]

That's really funny.

[A]

And they were like, what?

[B]

Wait, this is crazy. It's like, Roofman, your siblings. Or your siblings, your kids discuss all this stuff.

[A]

It was crazy. And honestly, I feel like you. If you.

[B]

You.

[A]

If you talk to Charlie now, you'd be like, when I talk to her, I'm like, I don't even know who this person is.

[B]

Oh, that's wild.

[A]

I don't even know who she is. I would.

[B]

She's what, 17?

[A]

She's 17.

[B]

What does she consume?

[A]

She loves, like, Bridgerton, but, like, she. Mostly what she talks about is, like, writing and psychology and physics and very, very. A lot of history stuff. Women's suffrage.

[B]

Okay. Do you think.

[A]

Wild.

[B]

Do you think there's a. What? There's a woman. Do you think there's a world in which we're, like, due for some kind of a new technology? Because I think that's where we're at. I think there's too much of everything.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That I think very soon we're going to get one new thing that is just that thing. Does that make sense? Yeah, like, there's too many shows. There's too many movies. There's too many short videos. There's two. And I think there's going to be a new category. At least there needs to be. In my opinion. That is just that.

[A]

Would it be, like, paddle wall?

[B]

No, no, I'm saying, like. Like the higher level of virtual reality. Like the actual, like the Monopoly monopolized version of virtual reality.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I guess the next thing is what you always talk about, which is, like, just being hooked up.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I think kind of that's what. That's what I'm.

[A]

I mean, did you see, like, a

[B]

softer version of that?

[A]

You see, Zuckerberg has just killed the metaverse.

[B]

Excuse me?

[A]

Zuckerberg put, like, 80 million into the metaverse, and he's, like, shutting it down.

[B]

80 million into the metaverse. Nothing.

[A]

Oh, sorry, sorry.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

But remember, remember, like, a few years ago, it's like, yeah, you're going to be able to, like, fucking walk around and buy coffee in the metaverse and you remember all that?

[B]

I do remember that.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's done and he's shutting it down. Why?

[A]

I guess I don't know what's using it.

[B]

I think it's like too soon, right? It's like the Apple Vision Pros.

[A]

Oh, you think it was too soon?

[B]

What do you mean? For sure? The Vision Pros. Do you remember the Apple Vision Pros?

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Spent like $4,000 on them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I. For some reason I got the ones with more memory.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know. I pay an extra 2,3000 cuz I was like I want all the memory, I want to get all the movies on here. Which is so unbelievably stupid. And they've like complete. I've never seen Apple like bury a product more.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. Do you see anything about them? No, it's the same that the Vision Pros remind me the same thing as like the hoverboards back in the day. This.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

They're like so tacky. It's like. To have them, it's almost like a joke, right? Like people put them on as, as a joke. It's like it, it's almost like. I don't know, what was the drama in the future?

[A]

What did you think you'd use it for? Watch a mo.

[B]

What was the draw? Yeah, what did I think I would use it for?

[A]

Games?

[B]

I have no fucking clue. I don't think there was ever. I think I just wanted to like really get my hands on them. I don't think there was ever a thought like this is going to change the way I do everything. I think once they figure out the meta glasses to be like, I'm talking like, I think in like 10 years. Yeah, meta glasses are going to be insane.

[A]

What will it be able to do?

[B]

I think what it does now but just like cleaner. Like you know how like now you can like be in a foreign country and it'll like translate things for you through the glasses now I think it'll start subtitling like text a lot better than it does now. I just, I don't know.

[A]

I like mine. I can hear music on it.

[B]

You wear your Meta glass. Oh yeah. You do.

[A]

Yeah, they're great. I don't even really record that much video with it. But when you take a run and you. And to not have earplugs in your ears because I have like hearing issues is really nice.

[B]

I just, I don't like, like seeing people. I don't like seeing people with them on it.

[A]

It's you Think it's. Yeah. It's unsettling, huh?

[B]

It's really unsettling.

[A]

You can see if the light's on or not?

[B]

No. I know you can, but I just think it's, like, such a weird. And, like, there was a good guy at the club the other day.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That, like, came up to me just to, like, ask for a picture. And then he came up to me again 30 minutes later.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he was recording on his glasses, but didn't say anything.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And like. Like, like, like. I don't know. I feel like that's really weird, because I don't. I'm not. It's not as obvious. It's really weird. And it's like the lights flashing, like. Can you just acknowledge the fact that you're. I don't care if you're recording me, but can you just, like, say.

[A]

You say I'm recording, I'm recording. I didn't even think of that then. Right now, those are my only sunglasses. So I was just walking around Rio, probably turning everyone off.

[B]

Yeah. It's very hard to have, like, a regular conversation with someone that's wearing metal glasses.

[A]

Really funny.

[B]

I don't know. Especially. Especially with that flashy light. And even when the light's not flashing, you're like, is it fucking. Is it on? What's going on here?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll get rid of those.

[B]

Did you date when you were a kid or did you go straight?

[A]

I never had a girlfriend. Nothing? Oh, I had a girlfriend in. When I was 17, I dated this. The star of the basketball team.

[B]

Wait, what's your body count?

[A]

I mean, I got. I'm up to, like, eight.

[B]

What?

[A]

Eight?

[B]

Are you being serious?

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

You've only had sex with eight people?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. I wouldn't have. I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

[B]

I thought you were, like, a player in college.

[A]

No, no, I was never that.

[B]

Eight's, like, not a lot, but you are way older than the average person.

[A]

I know, but I wouldn't have sex with people. I was. I was. I didn't think that was a good idea. And I would give that advice to anybody because. Because I. If you have sex with somebody, it's

[B]

like, no, I can't believe I've never asked you that.

[A]

They, like, owe you. So you, like, owe them something? Yeah.

[B]

I mean, you're not the first person to say that.

[A]

No, I know, but I feel like most people don't practice that. But, I mean, then again, I'm Also, I'm also the wrong person to ask because I don't know what's going on right now. You know what I mean? Like, right now, it's. When I hear about people. People. Single or single now, and the things that I hear about the amount of sex people are having and how it's very transactional for everybody. I'm always like, well, it wasn't that way for me. I don't really.

[B]

I feel like back then, it was almost like it was that as. Wait, what do you mean? What's the difference between. What was it like when you were younger?

[A]

I think it probably was that way.

[B]

You just weren't hip to it.

[A]

I wasn't hip to it. I wasn't the person that could pull that off. I was very like, I'm not a closer, okay? I'm good at. I'm good at, like, going to the party and, like, getting people talking and then. But that's. But then after that, I'm like, not. I'm just. I don't know.

[B]

Right? That's crazy. 8.

[A]

So I never saw myself that way. I never saw myself as, like, a lady killer.

[B]

It's kind of crazy. Think about about 20%. Wait, 25% of the people you had sex with, you ended up marrying.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, I'm a keeper.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

I'm a romantic.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Those. Those other six, they could have been Ms. Nash. They were that close.

[B]

Dodge the bullet.

[A]

I remember when I started dating Naveen, I. I. People. When I. When I got engaged, people came out of the woodwork, which I think's a really weird thing.

[B]

What do you mean? Like, they were, like. They were, like, jealous.

[A]

I don't know if it's jealousy, but it would be like. Like, people would. Even people that I was. Wasn't even romantically involved with just, like, sent me texts like, yo, what the fuck? Like, oh, be like, yeah, yeah, I'm getting married.

[B]

Like, excuse me? What do you mean, they were, like, bummed that you didn't choose them?

[A]

No, but maybe they felt like because I had got a fiance that I wouldn't talk to them anymore. Maybe that's kind of a real thing.

[B]

It's a really bizarre experience you're going through.

[A]

But do you understand that that is, like, a kind of a real thing?

[B]

I mean, I understand.

[A]

You get that, right?

[B]

No, it's actually the opposite. Like, I feel like once you get in a relationship, like, girls are even more down to hang out with you and, like, talk.

[A]

Really?

[B]

For sure. I mean, that's like, because you're like, the safest bet ever. It's like, finally, like, a guy friend that I know for a fact is not going to hit on me because what about marriage? Oh, I don't know. I've never been there.

[A]

Also, I guess my engagement in marriage was very fast, so probably even the first one.

[B]

Where did you and me meet?

[A]

We met out here doing TV show. She was the executive on the TV show, and I had two comedy partners, and she came and she pre bought the show, and then we started dating and then.

[B]

Wait, she bought the show from you?

[A]

Yep, for Fox. And so we made. We were making this pilot and my other two partners didn't know that. We were like, we can't tell the other two guys because then she's going to favor me in the script. So then eventually we told them, Whoa, back up.

[B]

You were secretly hooking up with this Fox executive?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. You were just like a writer, Like Joe Schmo or you were like.

[A]

Yeah, I was like. I had a. I had, like, a little sketch show with two guys, and then we sold the idea of the live show. We sold the live show as a TV show.

[B]

How much did you get for selling it?

[A]

Probably got like $25,000 each. Like 75k.

[B]

And you just sold the idea? You weren't working on it or anything?

[A]

Sold the idea, shot the pilot, didn't go anywhere.

[B]

You're basically like a prostitute. You're paid. You're paid at kind of.

[A]

It feels that way sometimes. And the year that they didn't buy our show, they bought the Lonely Island. I remember that.

[B]

What do you mean, they bought the Lonely Island?

[A]

They put. They made the Lonely island pilot, and then the Lonely island guys, I think, got SNL after that. Yeah, that's what it was. Wow. I'm pretty sure, because I remember. I remember hearing like, oh, we're not making your pilot. And like, okay, cool. And then I remember being like, wait, you made these other three white guys pilot? Oh, interesting.

[B]

Wait, how many times were you second in line for something that could.

[A]

So many times.

[B]

That could have changed your life?

[A]

So many times. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Give me more snl. I was right there. I remember hearing calls like, you're in the running for weeks.

[B]

How many times did you audition for snl? Just once.

[A]

Just once.

[B]

Okay. And no one laughs in the room, right?

[A]

Nobody.

[B]

Nobody.

[A]

No. Some people get laughs. I didn't.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Some people. I've watched a lot of auditions, actually,

[B]

and you'll be surprised.

[A]

And you'd be surprised, like Some people, like, I remember the year I did it. Fallon did it.

[B]

Fallon auditioned the same year you did?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Holy.

[A]

And he. And I remember hearing about him being like, they really like this guy. Jimmy Fallon, who was a nobody.

[B]

Was not.

[A]

Not in a bad way. He just. He just kind of came from nowhere.

[B]

Who was he before? Isn't that crazy that everyone back then came from nowhere? Like, if you didn't have social media.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes.

[B]

The fuck? Where did you hear? Like, just from the club.

[A]

So funny. Yeah. Like, I guess maybe he was around doing stand up and. But the thing was, is that he was just really, really, really good at impressions.

[B]

Do you think it was easier back then to break into the entertainment industry or easier now?

[A]

I think it's easier now.

[B]

Easier now maybe to, like, break in and be, like, on the outskirts of it. Yeah, I think to be, like, a household name now. Maybe tougher.

[A]

Well, SNL holds less weight now. There's a guy over Covid. I got a brand deal over Covid, and it was for a healthcare brand deal. And so they were like, okay, we're gonna shoot this. We're gonna shoot this ad, but it's gonna be over Zoom. And I was like, okay, cool. And they were like. The director was like, hey, is it cool if I hire my friend to play opposite you? He's really funny. His name's Jeremy. And I was like. He sent me his thing. I was like, oh, yeah, this guy's really funny. This guy's great. Let's do it. And anyways, we did it. Oh, and I had worked with him before on a Comedy Central thing. He played my assistant, and now he's on snl.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah. Crazy.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Jeremy Kelhane. And he did an amazing Tucker Carlson last Saturday night. And it's really funny, and he was always funny, but it's just that once you get, like, picked and once you get that stage, it's like, oh, now you can really blossom. It's almost like when. When you found me, like, it's like, oh, wow, I have a stage now. I have an audience. Like, it's like, oh, my God. Like, I feel fully realized. And it's the same thing for Jeremy. Like, he's on SNL every week now. He was always funny. He was always a great improv person. He was always, you know, quick and did characters. But he just got the shot when.

[B]

Who else was auditioning around the same time you were that off the big

[A]

one, the one who had a lot of heat was Zachary Zach, who Galifianakis

[B]

oh, he was on snl.

[A]

He wasn't on snl. He was there as a writer. He auditioned the same year as me. My thing was, I was already there as an assistant, and then it was coming up time, and they were, okay,

[B]

Jay, how is it,

[A]

brother? I've been trying my whole life. If you try.

[B]

I know, but you were there like, you were as an assistant, helping.

[A]

That actually. I know. And that actually makes it more complicated.

[B]

Really? Yeah. Why?

[A]

It's not like you. Like, you're great in that if somebody's funny around you, you'll put them right in the video. Right. Like, if somebody. If John, you'll. You'll make John. You'll make John funny. Like, you're really good at that. But I think over there, it's like, there's work. There's people that run the show, and they don't. Ne. They. They don't see you that way. They see you as the fucking guy that gets the coffee. They see you as the guy that they're. They're gonna shit on. And that's who I was, you know, I was like, go run down right now. Get. Get Norm MacDonald cigarettes or he's going to fucking have a conniption.

[B]

Okay, so you kind of, like. It was almost like a cast system.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like you. You dug your own grave by working there.

[A]

Almost dug my own grave. So then when I got. When I. When I went, I remember my agent was like, it's gonna be really hard for you to get this. And I was like, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, but we'll try. And then I remember I got off the audition, I walked out, and they all came up to me and they were like, that was so fucking good. They're like, holy shit. We had no idea.

[B]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[A]

And so I had left for a year, and I was doing standup and stuff, working on characters, and then I got the shot and it didn't happen.

[B]

Wait, Norm MacDonald was the guy you worked for?

[A]

That's who I worked for, yeah.

[B]

Did. He did. He was there a moment where he tried to put in a good word for you?

[A]

No, it's not like that. He didn't know me as something funny.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

He knew me as the guy making the copies. Like, he didn't. I wasn't funny around Norm. Norm was so. No one. No one could be funny around. I. He was so fun. He was so above and beyond anyone. Him and Farley were like, oh, my God, Farley was unbelievable. David. I mean, what a fucking light. You. The guy Would walk. You know what the great thing about Farley was? It was like everybody was funny at SNL. Sandler, Spade, Norm MacDonald, they're all funny. Rob Schneider, they're all incredibly funny.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Imagine. Imagine you looked at all these dinosaurs.

[B]

You just fart.

[A]

No, no, I hit my coffee.

[B]

Are you sure?

[A]

Imagine if I did, though. I'll put it in post.

[B]

Okay, sorry, sorry.

[A]

Imagine. Imagine. Imagine you're all those guys. Right? So funny.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then Chris Farley walks in and it's like, even those guys were like, oh, I won't even try.

[B]

Was it ever like a Adam Sandler?

[A]

Adam Sandler's like, I can't. I. I can't even compete with this guy. He'd probably say it if he was sitting right here.

[B]

Was it ever like a battle of egos?

[A]

All the time.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

All the time. They would be fighting and they'd be, I'm funnier and I'm funnier and putting each other down. But when Farley came in, everybody just sat back. It was fucking awesome. Really. He was just so, like. Because he made fun of himself, he'd come in and be like, oh, stupid, stupid. What am I thinking? Oh. And then he turned and he'd fucking fall on the floor. And he was so fat and just so fucking funny. Like, I mean, incredible.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Maybe, maybe, like, I almost think, like, better than Belushi in a lot of ways.

[B]

I'm not familiar. I'm actually not familiar with either of them, I don't think.

[A]

You ever watch like, Van down by the River?

[B]

No, I saw. I've seen like one or two. Chris Farley.

[A]

You never see Chippendales?

[B]

No. Was Jim Carrey on snl?

[A]

No. They told him no.

[B]

What do you mean they told him? No addition. Was he too big?

[A]

No, no. He went and auditioned and Lauren was like, no. And then he got.

[B]

Jim Carrey is like the most perfect person for SNL I know.

[A]

Then he got Living Color, which was against snl, and that was like an all black show. And Jim Carrey was the only white guy.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He killed it.

[B]

How many other Jason Nash is. Are there in this universe?

[A]

Open TikTok. There's fucking 10 million of me.

[B]

I'm. No, I'm saying, like, because I feel like you were like you were there with everybody.

[A]

Yeah. What does that mean? Oh, how many other. Oh, there's lots of people that, like.

[B]

How many other people do you know where you guys, like, you found success now in like the digital age, but I guess you never got it, like through the SNL and through, like, the mainstream route. Right. But, like, how many people that you would see day to day? Because to me, in my head, like, when you describe these stories, I'm like, I see four guys and you're one of them. And, like, you're surrounded by the greats, and then they just, like, didn't give you a chance. Like, I don't get it. Like, was this. Were you also around a lot of other people that were. That didn't make it? Yeah, I guess I'm trying to be nice about this.

[A]

A lot of people, like, you know, became writers or they became, like, producers, or they left and they made.

[B]

You didn't bow out for a while. You, like, kept trying.

[A]

They asked me to stay, and I was like, I really want to be a writer. And they were like, well, no, you can't be a writer, but you can stay. Like, we like you.

[B]

What does that mean, stay? Like, say, as an assistant?

[A]

Yeah, stay as an assistant. I was well liked and I think. But. But then there was a. There was an offer at MTV to write.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

And so I took it.

[B]

And you would. Do you think that if you stayed as the assistant longer at snl, something else would have happened? I just can't imagine. Like, I don't work. Like, I know you, and I feel like if you worked at a place long enough, there'd be just, like, all you need is one moment where somebody just looks at you a little different is like, whoa, what the fuck was that? Like, we should give them a chance.

[A]

It wasn't like that, though. It's not like. It's not like they're. They're looking for the production assistance to be on camera or even write, for that matter. There's so many people that are already hired that aren't getting on. So it's like there's featured players that are, like, writing every week and their sketches aren't making it.

[B]

Oh, are there benched? Like, do they have, like, a bench for, like, on screen talent, too, or. No, 100%.

[A]

Like, there's a bunch of guys that were on SNL last year, and I thought they were really funny, and they didn't get anything on last year, and now they're gone.

[B]

Oh, interesting.

[A]

I mean, like, that's. That's the word on the street, at least. And now they're back. I'll tell you what's really funny is the Insta. The Saturday Night Live people that are now doing what we're doing, which I think's really interesting.

[B]

What do you mean? Are doing.

[A]

In other words, you're talking about, like high caliber comedy people. Very funny. Like, I would say the highest, highest rank of funny are not making podcasts. And now they're making podcasts and patreons and. And it's like, it's really interesting, but

[B]

I don't think that's that interesting. I think you don't know why. I really. Because I feel like comedians fucking love podcasts.

[A]

But. But to me, it used to be when you left snl, you, like, went into movies, you went into shows.

[B]

Yeah, but that's not a fucking thing anymore.

[A]

It's not.

[B]

I don't think so.

[A]

It's kind of sad for me to wrap my head around.

[B]

I think.

[A]

I know you're right.

[B]

I think if anything, you go on like tour and you fucking obliterate on tour.

[A]

Yeah, but they're not standups. So what do you do on tour? Improv. Nobody wants to watch that.

[B]

I don't really know. I've just. I don't think I've ever seen anyone recently. I mean, I don't think I've seen anybody. Wait, who's gone from snl?

[A]

I mean, like, it used to be. Oh, here's, here's a perfect example. Kevin Nealon was an SNL cast member, very funny. And he went into a show called Weeds, which was like award winning, incredible performance. So funny stuff like that and.

[B]

No, no, no, no. I know it used to happen. Yeah, obviously.

[A]

Oh, so what are you saying?

[B]

That's where everybody. But I don't remember anybody in the last couple years that like, has come off of SNL and is brand new and has, like, gotten some blossoming movie career.

[A]

Right. That's. No, you're right. You're right. I guess, I guess like the most

[B]

famous person from SNL right now, in my opinion.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is Marcelo.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Yeah. And he's not getting big movies yet.

[B]

I don't, I don't. But I also don't think he's like. I think he'd easily book movies. I think he's actually the one person that would, like, obliterate movies. I think he just, probably just makes so much money through his stand up.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That is a big thing with.

[B]

And he's already. I didn't know stand ups make that much money.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I know, like, Sebastian Maniscalco is like, what, clearing like $50 million a year or something?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, what on earth.

[A]

Earth. Yeah.

[B]

And like, you don't. You don't hear anything about him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Until maybe he's in your town or he has a special on Netflix.

[A]

Yeah. Or until that list comes out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it says Sebastian Maniscalco and Nate Bargazi.

[B]

Yeah. What? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's really crazy. I mean, comedians are so slept on.

[A]

We made money when we toured.

[B]

I don't really know. I didn't like, really look at that, though.

[A]

Well, think about it. There's 3,000 people in the audience and. Or 20 for us, like 2,000. And think about the math of that. It's. It's a lot of money. And you. And. And we were doing like one show a month. They do it every night. Yeah.

[B]

Sebastian Madison's net worth is $45 million. And you would just like, never.

[A]

That's his net worth. I would think that's what he made last year.

[B]

Oh, maybe it is. Maybe it is. Last year.

[A]

Think about a stadium too.

[B]

Oh, sorry. It is last year. This is the top 25 comedy tours. Yeah. 84 shows. So this is from one year of shows. He grossed 45 million dollars. The number two, Gabriel Iglesias made 25 million. Joe Coy made 23 million. Bert Kreischer made 23 million.

[A]

Go, Bert.

[B]

Kevin Hart, 22 million. Dave Chappelle, 21 million. Chris Rock, 16 million. That is fucking insanity.

[A]

Have you watched DTF? You don't watch HBO?

[B]

I don't watch shows.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because it's just like too much.

[A]

What do you mean just?

[B]

Like, I don't like that. I'm like, like I don't like when there's multiple seasons of something that I would. I'll never get into anything because I'm like, I don't. I just like, no, it's never ending and I don't want to watch that.

[A]

What about a comedy, though? I watch. That's like a. Like a high level streaming comedy.

[B]

Do. I rarely click on comedies anymore. Really like movies, too. I don't like watching comedies. The other day when I got back. When we got back from Rio, I sat and I watched a live stream. I'm not going to say who's sure. For like, not kidding. Five hours. Five hours I sat there.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I was just laying in bed. I had my phone propped up, and for five hours I watched this person's full day.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Five hours?

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How many. How many people were in the room? Like, how many streets?

[B]

I don't want to say because I think it'll give away who it is.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

But. But yeah, no, I was like, so. And nothing really was happening, but like, I. I don't know. I Don't know, it's like, I don't. I don't know how to explain that phenomenon of like liking something that's not that good. I don't know what it is. And then in return makes it good. Cuz you're watching. I don't know. I don't know what that is, but I think.

[A]

Well, it's like. Do you mean like Entourage? Like Entourage was like.

[B]

I think Entourage is good.

[A]

Entourage is good. But it wasn't like, you know, it was just fun.

[B]

I know what you mean, but that. No, no, no.

[A]

This is like a little bit more like.

[B]

It's so much.

[A]

A little more hate watching.

[B]

No, not. I don't like the word hate because I never watch a video and I'm like, this is stupid. I just like watch a video where I'm like, what? Right? Yeah, just confused watching. All right, guys, that's all the time we have for today's podcast. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you everybody for joining us today. Go watch Jason's daily vlogs. I know, I love putting those on every day.

[A]

Yeah, you love it. Amazing.

[B]

That's the videos. I'm referring to my hate watching. And we'll see you guys soon. Bye.

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