Never Hire Your Friends

Summary

VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash

Episode: Never Hire Your Friends
Date: November 13, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode dives humorously and candidly into the blurred lines between friendships and work within David Dobrik’s circle, discussing how hiring friends impacts business, daily life, and personal relationships. The gang also digresses into pop culture, love in LA, their current social lives, and reflects on their distinctive work environment, all delivered in the signature fast-paced, self-deprecating, and irreverent VIEWS style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Fun Facts & Juicy Intros (01:05–04:10)

• David opens with a wild Billy Idol story — apparently, Idol was removed from a Thai hotel with $150k in damages and tranquilized because the president needed the penthouse.

  “I want us to give a fact so people that are listening can leave this immediately with something they’ve learned.” – David (02:05)

• Jason’s Fun Fact: Guys who get morning wood are less likely to have a heart attack. Natalie chimes in on the "benefits" of morning sex.
• Honesty Hour: David reveals he’s never been happier since quitting working out, reversing the "health grind" narrative.

  “I did not realize how miserable I was being in shape.” – David (03:24)

Close Friends, Social Secrets & Mall Survival (04:10–08:54)

• Natalie receives a flood of DMs about her "secret" (diarrhea), spawning a running bit on trusting podcast listeners.
• The group jokes about “Close Friends” Instagram stories for airing dirty laundry, sometimes even excluding each other for a laugh.
• Mall Rethink: Ferris proposes malls need to become indoor activity centers (mini-golf, courts, etc.) instead of old-school shopping.

  “Activities will never die unless we figure out VR properly. So I don’t understand why malls aren’t converting to activity hubs.” – Ferris (07:24)

Love, Relationships, & LA Culture (08:56–16:03)

• Natalie references a recent Vogue article: Is having a boyfriend embarrassing? This spurs a discussion on the "anti-boyfriend" trend and the pressures of LA "scene" life.
• David admits to preferring the comfort of hanging out with friends over the effort of seeking relationships.

  “I’d rather sit with John and Alex all fucking day than be with a woman.” – David (12:54)

• They discuss overstimulation from their social/work lives and how it drains motivation for romance.
• Natalie, in contrast, finds herself “crushing in the men department” since acquiring a Ferrari, sparking playful debates about material status and dating in LA.

Hiring Friends, Vibes, and The Work-Life Blur (33:04–42:36)

• Taylor vs. David: Taylor and David air out a dispute—Taylor’s upset at being called a “vibe hire,” feeling she does more substantive work. After discussing the emotional impact, they squash the beef.

  “Anybody can do the other parts of your job… but to bring the vibes—especially with me—is very tough. One in a million.” – David (34:11)

• Vibe Hires: David unabashedly admits he hires for fun: "I hire them because I want to hang out." (35:14)
• Over-hiring friends: The team acknowledges they've hit their max of "vibe hires" and now need more structured hires (“real people”).
• Brooke’s Segment: Brooke, notable for her actual work-life balance, shares her structured approach compared to the others who blend work and friendship incessantly:

  “That’s like our first person that has a separate life, that has actual work-life balance.” – David (42:49)

Movie Manifestation: Jonah’s Full-Circle Moment (24:26–29:38)

• The team celebrates Jonah landing a real movie role after years of joking, pestering, and failed promises. David expresses genuine pride and sees it as a vindication of Jonah’s relentless (and, at times, delusional) ambition.

  “That’s a lesson for everybody out there, man. Just fucking keep going and just be delusional. Be delusional until it comes true.” – Dave (28:07)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• David on “overstimulated” LA romance:

  “There’s no love… Someone has squeezed the love out of our bubble.” (11:10)

• On Ferrari as a dating magnet:

  “I’ve gotten hit up so much more since I got the Ferrari.” – Natalie (15:56)

• On hiring for vibes over skill:

  “Do you think I hired Ilya to run Dobriks and Zela because he was the smartest in our school?… I don’t hire people because I believe that they’ll go far in the business world. I hire them because I want to hang out.” – David (35:10, 35:14)

• Taylor defends her position:

  “Of course I bring the vibes. But there are days when it’s like, okay, what really should I be doing?” – Taylor (31:57)

• On unique work environment:

  “People got it really good around here.” – Dave (41:07)

• Jonah’s perseverance:

  “He made it happen. He willed it.” – Dave (28:15)

• Brooke on maintaining boundaries:

  “I feel like I have my own schedule outside. You guys all kind of live in this area. I live somewhere else… I have a life outside of it.” – Brooke (45:04)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Fun Facts, Billy Idol Story – 01:05
• Morning Wood = Heart Health Debate – 02:18
• Natalie and Diarrhea DMs, Social Media Close Friends – 04:02
• Malls in America need to evolve – 06:13–08:54
• Vogue “Embarrassing Boyfriend” Trend, Modern Romance in LA – 09:01–14:40
• Natalie’s Ferrari, Perceived Status in Dating – 15:53–19:20
• Jonah’s Movie Dream Manifested – 24:26–29:38
• Taylor and David Squash 'Vibe Hire' Drama – 29:41–38:16
• Hiring friends, Vibe Overload, Need for Real Hires – 35:14–42:36
• Brooke on Creating Work-Life Boundaries – 43:41–45:51

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Episode Takeaways

• Never Hire Your Friends? The title is a running joke—the group recognizes that hiring friends means a fun but chaotic, boundary-less workplace. Most are “vibe hires,” and it takes real intention (per Brooke’s example) to separate work and social life.
• LA Romance is Hard – Overstimulation, status games, and scene-driven romance make relationships in their social bubble unusually fraught—though Natalie’s Ferrari saga provides comic contrast.
• Persistence Pays – Jonah’s acting story underscores the odd combination of delusion, resilience, and luck needed to break through in showbiz, with the group reflecting both pride and disbelief.
• Value in Vibes – In David's world, being fun and easy to hang out with is often more important than technical skills—though they're realizing they might need some “real hires” too.

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This episode is a quintessential inside look into the VIEWS ecosystem: funny, chaotic, revealing, and ultimately anchored in real friendship dynamics and modern young adult dilemmas.

Transcript

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[David Dobrik]

What's up, guys? Wel back to view. Jay, guess what?

[Dave]

What happened?

[David Dobrik]

I just found this fact out and it's going to blow your mind.

[Dave]

Amazing.

[David Dobrik]

You know Billy Idol? Yeah, I actually don't know who he is.

[Dave]

Not Billy Eilish. Billy Idol.

[David Dobrik]

Billy Idol. Oh, yeah.

[Dave]

Dancing with my elf.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, that's him.

[Dave]

That D site.

[David Dobrik]

So one time at a party, I found this on TikTok.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

And it reminded me of us. One time you had a party in Thailand. In one in a penthouse in a hotel. He caused $150,000 in damages and the Thai government had to come and shoot him with a tranquilizer dart to get him out.

[Natalie]

Shut the fuck up.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, and I looked it up. It looks legit.

[Dave]

Oh, wow.

[David Dobrik]

The only. The only thing is it's not that he wouldn't stop partying. It was that he wouldn't vacate the premises to. To go for the president. The president needed to come in and use the room.

[Natalie]

President of Thailand?

[David Dobrik]

I don't know. Some country.

[Dave]

Something like that.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. So these are the facts I want to start the podcast with.

[Dave]

Amazing. I mean, Billy Idol. He looks like a good time.

[Natalie]

Was he like a rock star?

[David Dobrik]

Rock star like that rockstar rock star?

[Natalie]

That was his reputation.

[David Dobrik]

I also want this to be a new thing here. We. When we start the pod, I want us to give a fact so people that are listening can leave this immediately with something they've learned. So Jay, now you. Now you say something.

[Dave]

Guys that get morning wood are less likely to have a heart attack. Do you get morning wood? Dave?

[Natalie]

I have heard actually great things about having sex in the morning.

[Dave]

Yes.

[David Dobrik]

For men would net huge, huge hard.

[Natalie]

On in the morning.

[David Dobrik]

You've heard great things from men about.

[Ferris]

Having sex in the morning. Yeah, that makes sense. No, like, I think it's really important we right now.

[Dave]

It's for my health.

[Ferris]

It's for my health.

[Natalie]

It's like. Yeah, I just, like, in order. Like, if you have sex, you have that release first thing in the morning. Like you have a more productive day. You know, all the things are better.

[David Dobrik]

Throughout the 100% think you should be doing that in the morning. I'm by standby.

[Dave]

Right, Right.

[Natalie]

Whether it's yourself or with somebody, you.

[David Dobrik]

Get morning wood, though maybe too much information.

[Dave]

Right.

[David Dobrik]

But you bet your ass.

[Dave]

When you were working out a lot, did you get more wood?

[David Dobrik]

No.

[Dave]

Oh, you didn't?

[David Dobrik]

No.

[Natalie]

He's hyperactive as is.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. I mean, can I just tell you, just all.

[Natalie]

Don't tell us.

[David Dobrik]

Don't get me started about working out, about what it does to you and what it doesn't. Because I have never been happier since I've quit. I am at the peak happiness of.

[Dave]

My life since you've gone full slack.

[David Dobrik]

I actually had.

[Ferris]

No, I had.

[David Dobrik]

I did not realize how miserable I.

[Ferris]

Was being in shape.

[Dave]

Really?

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Damn.

[Ferris]

Morning wood. Yes. I get morning wood. And I also masturbated this morning.

[Dave]

Wonderful. Clean it out. Huh? Amazing.

[Ferris]

Can I tell you something about Natalie?

[Natalie]

Oh, please do.

[Dave]

I want to hear.

[Natalie]

Can I say. Oh, wait, go. No, no, you say no, say something. No, you're about to say something nice. I can feel it.

[Ferris]

No, I definitely wasn't going to say anything nice.

[David Dobrik]

Fuck.

[Natalie]

Ok, I just want to say after, I think I texted both of you guys this, but after the last podcast.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

The amount of DMs that I got, I've never had this many DMs like, in my life. And I feel like I've done some pretty cool shit, but. But literally the shit.

[Dave]

Wow.

[Natalie]

Is what I mean. I was scrolling, scrolling like. And still to this day, people are still listening, like, hey, I'm gonna keep your secret. Don't worry, it's safe between us.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, and you said you had diarrhea.

[Natalie]

Well, you said you told people. You were like, you guys, this is our little secret. This is our close friends podcast. You know, but if you are out there and you're listening, make sure to send Natalie dm. You're gonna keep her secret safe.

[Ferris]

That's really funny.

[Natalie]

And even on my, like, I posted an Instagram picture or whatever and my post, they're like, we're gonna keep your secret. I'm like, this does not look good for me.

[Ferris]

Oh, I remember when you first. When you first got that dm, you, like, freaked out.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

I was scared.

[Ferris]

What Secret. But then immediately you knew what. Yeah, that's really funny.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

People have been messaging me about being on My Close Friends, too.

[Dave]

Yeah, I saw your clothes. I finally got a look at the Close Friends, and it was great.

[Ferris]

Exhilarating.

[Dave]

It was. It was so good.

[David Dobrik]

What did.

[Dave]

But then also, I was like, why is this Close Friends? I was like, this is great. Why wouldn't you just share this to your followers?

[Ferris]

Because it's just more intimate.

[Dave]

It was.

[Ferris]

Sometimes I'll take Natalie off the Close Friends, and I'll just talk shit about her.

[Natalie]

That's not funny.

[Dave]

Really?

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

We were yesterday in Minnesota, and I was really. I was really pissed.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

Cause we were in Minnesota, and I was just. I just took her off to Close Friends, and I just let it rip.

[David Dobrik]

No, you didn't. Yeah.

[Dave]

Yeah, he did. He did let it rip.

[Natalie]

Did he? Actually.

[Dave]

Yeah. The first slide was you, like, putting stuff into the car, and it was like, why the fuck doesn't. Natalie's planning too much stuff.

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[David Dobrik]

And she saw that.

[Ferris]

She didn't see the other stuff.

[Natalie]

What was the other stuff?

[Ferris]

I mean, Natalie, I don't want to see it. I don't want to tell you right now, but I use some words that probably should never be used.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Then it was you guys getting manicures or getting massages in the airport.

[Natalie]

That's good.

[Dave]

Yeah, we're at the mall.

[Natalie]

We went to Mall of America, and we sat in these massage chairs for, like, 30 minutes to kill some time.

[Dave]

And then it was. You had to pay her $10 to get up. Is that what it was? The Venmo. You Venmo?

[Natalie]

The massage chair cost $10.

[Ferris]

We got. Yeah, we got into the massage chairs at Mall of America, and I got. They kind of fucking. They kind of suck.

[Natalie]

Oh, I was having a great time.

[Ferris]

I just want to sit, but they're so fucking hard. I was like, natalie, can we please leave? And then she's like, if you pay me for the remainder of the time. So I had to send Natalie $10 to get up from the chair. Other than that, Mall of America was cool, but I do. I do. I am worried about malls in general. I just feel like it's like, the.

[Natalie]

Status of the life span of a mall.

[Ferris]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Dave]

You think people won't go anymore?

[Ferris]

I think they need to be smaller and more activity driven. Like, I think it needs, like. I don't think people.

[Dave]

More escape rooms.

[Ferris]

Escape rooms? Are a little lame, but I think, like. Like, I've always said, like, turn our mall here, the Sherman Oaks Mall, right? Yeah. It actually gets, like, pretty good foot traffic. I feel like for a mall, it does really well. Yeah, but I'm just saying, if it was suffering, what I would do is I would gut the big department stores like Macy's, whatever, have the ends be, like mini golf on one end, on the, like, 18 holes on the other end. Let's do eight pickleball courts, two tennis courts on the other end. Because, you know, malls are usually, like, quadrants. Like, they're in, like, fours.

[Dave]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ferris]

So, like, on the other end, do basketball courts, and then through the hallways have, like, activities, like, either bars or make it very, like, topgolf ask, but make the entire thing like an activity center. So you come in and you just spend all day, and it's just unlimited activities. And it could be even, like, a theme park. Like, you. You. You Pay, like, a $50 day pass, and maybe you get one free meal at the food court.

[David Dobrik]

I don't know why.

[Dave]

You can go to Abercrombie if you want.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, I don't know why that's not happening. I feel like activities.

[Ferris]

Activities will never die unless we figure out VR properly. So I don't understand why malls aren't converting to, like, activity hubs, Especially in the Midwest, where, like, the activities are limited. Once it gets fucking cold, like, you can.

[Dave]

Only you can do all that at the mall. America.

[David Dobrik]

Right.

[Dave]

There's all kinds of things you can do. There's.

[Ferris]

You can. But there's something about it. It's the feng shui of these big malls that's a little bit off.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

But then it's too much happening.

[Dave]

But then also, I have been to malls that have that stuff, and that's the worst. You want to go into an escape room or go into a place that has, like, mirrors and stuff.

[David Dobrik]

I literally just told you why. It's the feng shui. It needs to be built, like, as an activity center, not as a mall Coexisting with an activity center. That's what you just listed as, like, cheap activities. And then also, I think there's another spectrum where, like, I don't think you need skiing inside a mall.

[Dave]

No.

[David Dobrik]

Like, I don't think you need to go, like, above and beyond. I just think it needs to, like, all be so cohesive and make so much sense. Where it's, like. And I. And I think walking through the mall, it shouldn't be a mall. I think it should be turfed, and it should be like you're walking through a neighborhood with street lights and, like, I think it should feel like, oh, I've just entered funland.

[Dave]

Like a city.

[Ferris]

Yeah.

[Dave]

I don't know, like, the Venetian.

[David Dobrik]

Venetian's a little too. Like, we're pumping oxygen here to keep you awake. Yeah, a little. A little more like laid back and chill.

[Dave]

Okay.

[David Dobrik]

I don't know, David Dobrik. If somebody wants to approach me with this, I feel like we can really reinvent malls.

[Dave]

Hey, do you see this thing?

[David Dobrik]

Yes, I do get morning wood.

[Dave]

Do you see this thing that's, like, all over TikTok? It's like your boyfriend is embarrassing.

[Natalie]

Yes.

[Dave]

Like a big push to not have a boyfriend.

[Ferris]

Keep talking about this, and every time I tune out because I really don't know what you guys are saying. What is mean?

[Dave]

It's like, if you have a boyfriend, that's embarrassing. Like, you should either have a husband or be single.

[Natalie]

Vogue released this article about. Is having a boyfriend embarrassing these days?

[Ferris]

Oh.

[Natalie]

Because there's a lot. There's a lot of like. Like, it feels like a lot of people are single, you know?

[Dave]

Right.

[Natalie]

And if it's also, like. There's also this thing where it's like, I bring my boyfriend.

[Ferris]

When did they release this?

[Natalie]

Like, a week or two ago.

[Ferris]

So I haven't beat. I have been saying this now.

[Natalie]

It does align with your theory.

[Ferris]

Yeah, my theory. Natalie, go ahead, tell everybody. I've been really hard on this. Like, really hardcore on my new theory.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

You know how I change my perspective on life every, like, every episode? Every episode. This is my new perspective. Go ahead, Natalie. Natalie's getting really bothered by it. Like, she, like, yells at me to shut up.

[Natalie]

Well, which perspective? Because we talk about this extensively.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Ferris]

I mean, just like. Like, give me, like, the basics.

[Natalie]

Well, David is just saying, like, this. This life is so overstimulating. There's so many going. So many things going on. You have access to so many people and so many things. Like. Like, true love is essentially dead, right? Like, this. Like, this, like, process or thought of, like, eternal love and marriage and all of that. So, like, he's like, let's be real. Because, you know, guys, I know you're.

[Ferris]

Listening to this, and you guys have significant others where you guys are completely in love, and I don't discount that at all. I think that's. I think that's real. I think there's, like, this unfortunate thing with what is. What is in at least the little corner of Los Angeles that we live in.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

There that we like spend our day to day in. That sucks that out of you. And I just think it's impossible to find love currently.

[Natalie]

It is difficult.

[Dave]

It's a job. You have to go and you're not willing to go and look for it.

[David Dobrik]

It's not like that. Like in the Midwest, it like operates. It's like different. It's different. Like you find someone that you're really comfortable with, you do those activities with them and like, that's it.

[Natalie]

I think it's just our lives the way that we currently, like, we'd have to do a real life change.

[David Dobrik]

Like, you guys live in a bubble.

[Ferris]

It's like.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, yeah, we do. Everyone lives in their own bubble. Our bubbles unfortunately fucking sucked out.

[Ferris]

There's no love. Someone has squeezed the love out of.

[Natalie]

Our bubble so mad we weren't sitting next to each other.

[David Dobrik]

I don't like it. Yeah, I don't like it. I'm just learning to accept it.

[Dave]

Sure, okay.

[Natalie]

But just like, keep it to yourself, because I don't. I don't like when he spreads this negative energy towards me. I was telling him, I was like, I understand that misery loves company and you're trying to rationalize this.

[David Dobrik]

I told her that she's the Nepo baby of misery because Jen is queen of misery.

[Ferris]

And she doesn't.

[David Dobrik]

She for some reason thinks that I'm.

[Ferris]

The one that's miserable.

[David Dobrik]

I'm just trying to adapt here to the situation that way.

[Natalie]

Yeah, but I don't want to live that way. I want to.

[David Dobrik]

You have to. You have to leave here.

[Natalie]

Okay, well, then I will.

[David Dobrik]

You have to. I'm telling you, you genuinely have to. Like, the people that have found success and love in LA are the people that are like, yeah, I got to get out of here and just like, leave.

[Dave]

I found success.

[David Dobrik]

I found love, dude. I can't. You're. You're such an anomaly.

[Dave]

Ferris has a girlfriend.

[David Dobrik]

It's crazy.

[Dave]

Ferris found love. Joe got married. I mean, Scott.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, I'm so sorry. He's. I'm not. Okay, first of all, all of them.

[Dave]

Have moved out, but they found the love here.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, but they had to leave because of it.

[Dave]

They didn't. They didn't live because of their love. They left because they. They wanted to leave. But I mean, like, it's. You're not. In other words, this is what I think's going on.

[David Dobrik]

I also, I also am not speaking on everybody that lives in Los Angeles. I would say, like our little corner.

[Dave]

Not Even corner our specific little Natalie and David corner of this movie room. Yeah, okay, I'll speak on that. That's what I mean. I'll speak on that.

[David Dobrik]

You don't. You don't. Our personal experience. You don't put in the work.

[Dave]

You don't put in.

[David Dobrik]

You don't put in the work.

[Dave]

Because at the end of the day, David, you'd rather fucking sit on the couch and watch John eat wings.

[David Dobrik]

This has happened.

[Dave]

And time him.

[David Dobrik]

This has happened to me.

[Dave]

Then. Than be with a woman.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, here's. Yes, you're totally right. I'd rather sit with John and Alex all fucking day than be with a woman.

[Dave]

Sure.

[David Dobrik]

And this has happened to me, like, I'm not even kidding you. Two or three times the last week. I'm not kidding. I'm not exaggerating. Okay, maybe two times.

[Ferris]

Okay.

[David Dobrik]

But it's enough that it's happening. Happened two. It feels like it's happened 10.

[Dave]

Sure.

[David Dobrik]

I've, like, been, like, talking to a girl when I'm out.

[Dave]

Right.

[David Dobrik]

And I'm just. And I'm just like, what do you like to do? And actually happened way more than two. And without fail, she's like, I just love, like, I can't say no to activities. Like, I love going to do things. Like, I love if I'm going on a hike, random trip to Santa Barbara. I love, like, I'll go anywhere.

[Ferris]

All these, like, millions of things.

[David Dobrik]

And.

[Ferris]

And I'm always like, oh.

[David Dobrik]

I always say. I'm just. I always keep it super honest. I'm like, oh, you have the wrong person. Like, I absolutely. I don't like to say that. Yeah. Like, I don't like doing anything. Like, I love staying at home. I'll say no to everything under the sun.

[Ferris]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

And then. And then this says, this is what happened twice. They go, well, honestly, like, me too. Like, I don't. I feel like I'm such a homebody.

[Dave]

Really trying to hook you in.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. And I'm like, what is this?

[Dave]

That's a move. That's a definite move.

[David Dobrik]

But it's not. It's not true. Because I know if they actually understood my lifestyle, they'd be like, oh, damn, he wasn't kidding. He does like to be at home. Yeah. But that someone put it for me in a good perspective, like, painting the picture properly. They're like, I think your job is so overstimulating with, like. And, like, it's so draining socially.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

That you do actually enjoy doing nothing.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Because you just get so much of that working. And I know that's, like, should be kind of obvious, but I think I'm.

[Dave]

Not obvious at all.

[David Dobrik]

I've never heard anybody say that. And I'm like, oh, wow, that's totally true. Like, my work is what other people consider. Durant trip to Mexico. I do. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, I'm doing it as part of, like, work. Yeah.

[Ferris]

So I just do it.

[David Dobrik]

I do it often.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Dave]

That's. If that's a fair.

[David Dobrik]

So, anyway, no love assessment.

[Taylor]

I'm also.

[David Dobrik]

I don't know. I'm also amping it up for. Please don't DM me.

[Natalie]

This is actually the way he speaks in person. You're like, you're never gonna find love.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, but. But, yeah, I just amp it up just because this is my personality right now. So don't. Don't DM me. Things like, Dave, you gotta give love another chance. I will. I'm just being dramatic for.

[Dave]

Come back next week when he's in love.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, yeah. Next week's gonna be different. Jay, I found a pocket in Santa Barbara. It's not like it is here.

[Dave]

That sounds good.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, sorry. Now, what were you saying? You kind of believe what I say, right?

[Natalie]

I understand what you're saying. I just, like. I just refuse to believe it because it's such, like, a pessimistic outlook on, like, you're just, like, closing yourself off, you know? And I'm at a point right now where I feel like I have more men in my life than I ever have.

[Dave]

Wow.

[Natalie]

You know, like, I feel like I have, like.

[David Dobrik]

Okay.

[Natalie]

Not that I'm, like, hooking up with people, but I just.

[Dave]

Any suitors?

[Natalie]

I feel like the past two months, like, I've had more. I've had. I've interacted in on a romantic level.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

Not hooking up, but just, like, talking to men. Men approaching me, and it never really happens. Like, I feel like we've talked about this before where I feel like people are, like, scared to approach me.

[Ferris]

Like, that's 100 true. You know what changed it is the Ferrari.

[David Dobrik]

No.

[Natalie]

100%. I've gotten hit up so much more since I got the fries.

[Dave]

Really?

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. Which you think is, like, the opposite, which is crazy.

[Natalie]

Yeah, it's really crazy.

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[David Dobrik]

Huh.

[Ferris]

I wonder why that is. Yeah, because that obviously doesn't happen. Well, I don't think it's happened to me. I didn't get, like, a Ferrari or anything. And people are like, it was like a switch.

[Dave]

I mean, get more girls when you got your Ferrari.

[David Dobrik]

100%.

[Ferris]

Not.

[Natalie]

I don't know.

[Ferris]

And then the one thing I definitely. One thing that definitely didn't help me is when I got abs.

[Dave]

Really?

[Natalie]

What are you talking about? Everybody reached out to you when you had abs.

[David Dobrik]

To congratulate me.

[Ferris]

But it was not like, girls were, like, mostly.

[Dave]

Well, you also just.

[Natalie]

You, like, hid away. You, like, got the abs, and then you were like, I'm gonna just curl up on the couch and not put them to use.

[Ferris]

What, are we gonna just go fuck the town?

[Natalie]

No. Like, get out there, look good.

[Sponsor Voice]

No, no, no.

[Ferris]

I'm telling you, like.

[David Dobrik]

Sorry, I wanna go back to your Ferrari thing because I think it's really interesting. But, yes, the abs definitely did not. I don't know. I don't think I've ever, like, purchased anything that's actually helped me, but for some reason, this Ferrari is doing shocking numbers with you.

[Natalie]

I know.

[David Dobrik]

Like, it. Why?

[Dave]

Why do you think that is?

[David Dobrik]

Why do I. Yeah, I think there was, like. I think Natalie was in, like, a spot that was like, no man's land. It's like, who is this woman? Like, is she doing well or is she. Do you know what I mean? I don't know how to explain it.

[Dave]

Yeah. Yeah, that's it.

[Natalie]

Or is, like. Is it just her friend is facilitating her entire, like, being.

[David Dobrik]

Yes. Yeah. And I think. I think the Ferrari, like, gave her character.

[Ferris]

This materialistic car finally gave her personality. No, no, no, But. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Dave]

Visibility.

[David Dobrik]

But no, no, it's not. It's not.

[Natalie]

No, but it's like. It's. It's kind of become, like.

[Ferris]

Like, it's, like, made her, like her own person.

[David Dobrik]

It's so weird. I don't know what it is.

[Dave]

It's a great opener. How's the Ferrari?

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

Yeah. That's how every single one of them opens.

[Dave]

An easy question to ask. It's innocuous.

[David Dobrik]

There's, like, a guy that stopped talking.

[Ferris]

Talking to her for a little.

[David Dobrik]

And, like.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

Had.

[Natalie]

Didn't talk to me all summer.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

And then I got this Ferrari. Literally, like I kid you not, two days after the we posted that I got this Ferrari, he has been hitting me up non stop, trying to hang out, trying. I'm like, I'm not even like interested in like non stop.

[Dave]

Like, wow.

[David Dobrik]

Doesn't respond to the text. So he swipes up on Instagram.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

If I don't respond, he'll DM me. Like, really? Yeah. Not. Not like in an annoying way, but.

[David Dobrik]

She'S got like decorations at her house and he's like, where did you get these? I'm looking for this for my house. She didn't respond on Instagram. So then he texted her saying, hey, I'm still looking for these decor. Like, like completely unnecessary things. Wow.

[Natalie]

Really interesting.

[Dave]

Yeah, that's it. Girls just gotta get a sports car, I guess.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, I think there's usually like a. There's usually a fear with girls with sports cars.

[Natalie]

That's what I thought was gonna happen. People are gonna be like, oh, this girl is too much. Like, this is too much going on.

[David Dobrik]

I think it's how you acquired it. I think. I don't know. I think it's because you are like businessy on your page. I don't know.

[Natalie]

I'm not businessy at all on my page. I'm like in a bikini and have the fucking photos.

[David Dobrik]

No, but you're. I don't know. I don't know. I'm shocked. But yes. Natalie's been fucking crushing in the men department.

[Dave]

Damn.

[David Dobrik]

Just obliterate.

[Dave]

Do you go through her DMs?

[David Dobrik]

No. She's actually really weird about like, me.

[Ferris]

Reading a message of hers.

[David Dobrik]

I think she gets, like, really embarrassed about how she talks.

[Natalie]

Well, yeah, because you make fun of me.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, for sure.

[Ferris]

Do you know, that's. That actually is an interesting point.

[David Dobrik]

There was one moment where I was talking to. This is where my personality forever changed. And I can't believe I've never spoken about this because it was like such a big revelation for me.

[Ferris]

There was this moment where I was. There was this girl I liked and.

[David Dobrik]

I really liked her.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

And I was being like, very extroverted. And I was like making jokes, blah.

[Ferris]

Blah, blah, blah, blah.

[David Dobrik]

Really being David about it. And my friend, I feel like this has happened to everybody, but my friend in front of her goes, dude, you're.

[Ferris]

Really different when you're talking to girls.

[David Dobrik]

And I was like, oh, my God.

[Ferris]

That'S like one of.

[David Dobrik]

That's so fucking embarrassing that he would just say this in front of her. So then from there on out. I made it. So I'm always the version of me that's talking to girls.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

So I like, so never.

[Dave]

What's up, moron?

[David Dobrik]

No, genuinely, so never. Am I. I don't even remember that old David.

[Ferris]

Sure.

[David Dobrik]

Because I just genuinely. That's when I became, I think, David, when I was like, fuck it, I'm gonna be this extra. I'm gonna talk to Natalie the exact way that if a girl was in the room, like, you know, I mean, like, how many times do you see me talking to a girl? And it's that much different than what I would be like in real life.

[Natalie]

I don't think. I don't think I've seen. I think they're. Yeah, the same.

[David Dobrik]

Exactly. That's by design.

[Dave]

That's why you're single.

[Natalie]

I don't really watch you talk to girls.

[David Dobrik]

Maybe you.

[Dave]

Maybe it's okay to. To code switch when you're talking to girls.

[Ferris]

Code switch.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, no, you're right. No, no, I'm still, like.

[Ferris]

I get more gentle. I'm obviously not. Yeah, I'm not.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

I won't even call Nelly a bitch around a girl because thank God, you.

[Dave]

Know, you have date coming up this week.

[David Dobrik]

What?

[Dave]

You have, like, a potential date or anything? I don't know. Something tells me, like, all this stuff.

[Ferris]

You'Re saying, it's just phony. It's just.

[Dave]

Yeah, there's like. You literally probably have some. A date, like, lined up this week.

[David Dobrik]

Do you? Maybe.

[Ferris]

Yeah, possibly.

[David Dobrik]

I knew it.

[Ferris]

I knew it.

[David Dobrik]

No, no, no.

[Dave]

Hey, baby.

[David Dobrik]

I don't know.

[Dave]

It's Davey.

[David Dobrik]

That sounds toxic.

[Dave]

Hey, girl, it's me, the real guy, Davey Wavy.

[David Dobrik]

I don't know. I'm in no rush.

[Natalie]

Crazy Davey.

[David Dobrik]

And you know how people say, like, it comes when you. When you're not, like, expecting it or whatever, when you're not looking for it.

[Natalie]

That's how I feel right now, and I'm just getting it in abundance.

[David Dobrik]

Really.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Well, I'm actually not looking forward. I'm not even trying to. I'm not even trying to trick the universe. I'm genuinely not even looking for.

[Ferris]

I'm not looking for it.

[Dave]

I don't want it.

[David Dobrik]

It's not a porch.

[Natalie]

I'm excited. I'm so excited. I'm meeting this guy in two weeks.

[Dave]

Yeah. Where?

[Natalie]

I don't want to say where because if he ever listens to this, I just don't want him to know that it's him. But I've been like. I've been talking about this man, fucking climb this, man.

[David Dobrik]

Like a tree?

[Natalie]

No, not like that.

[David Dobrik]

You know, orangutans are the biggest mammals that live in trees.

[Dave]

Really?

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. All right, back to you, Natalie.

[Dave]

What does this have to do with Natalie? Well, anyways, Natalie looks like an orangutan.

[Ferris]

Exactly.

[Natalie]

Natalie's a gorilla. No, but I've been, like. I've been, like, manifesting.

[Ferris]

Scratching your tit?

[Dave]

No, she's scratching the side of her.

[Ferris]

Arm as she said Natalie's a gorilla.

[David Dobrik]

She just started scratching her boob. I was like, okay.

[Ferris]

She's really into character.

[Natalie]

Anyways, I'm gonna be. I'm gonna see him in, like, two weeks, and I'm really excited about it and.

[Dave]

Did he ask you out?

[Natalie]

He didn't ask me out, but he's.

[Dave]

Like, what is with guys?

[David Dobrik]

No, no, no. This is.

[Natalie]

So this guy's someone that we, like, do business with at the same time.

[Dave]

Okay.

[David Dobrik]

This guy's like. Like, he's big in, like, this world.

[Ferris]

Sure.

[David Dobrik]

So he's probably. He's.

[Natalie]

He invited me to an event that he's, like, hosting.

[Dave]

Okay.

[Natalie]

And so. And, like, he's also just been texting me on the side or whatever. We were texting, and then he also invited me to the event in two weeks, so I'll get to, like, see him in person.

[David Dobrik]

Okay.

[Natalie]

And he's, like, excited about, like, me coming to the event or whatever, so we'll see how it goes. But, like, I've very, very loosely. Like, we've known each other. We've never interacted with each other. Like, I do not know him really at all outside of just, like, social media stuff.

[Dave]

Okay. And.

[Natalie]

But I'm excited because I've been, like. I feel like I've been manifesting it for so long.

[David Dobrik]

She's been talking about this guy for a really long time.

[Natalie]

Yeah. And. Yeah. Yeah, he's.

[David Dobrik]

And he's like. He does well.

[Ferris]

Like, he owns, like, a business. He crushes.

[Dave]

Okay.

[Ferris]

My only.

[David Dobrik]

My only issue is, and this is why Natalie and I have been talking.

[Ferris]

About all this a lot, is he's.

[David Dobrik]

If there's anybody tapped into the scene.

[Natalie]

He'S very in the scene, it's him.

[David Dobrik]

So I'm just like. Just.

[Ferris]

Natalie, just be careful. Like, you're playing with our people here.

[David Dobrik]

You know, our little corner. It's fucked.

[Ferris]

It's eternal.

[Dave]

Maybe he's looking to get out of the scene.

[David Dobrik]

Maybe. Maybe he's moving to Iowa.

[Natalie]

He doesn't live in LA anyway. But he is very much in this, like, his work. His entire business is involved in the scene, he knows everybody, blah, blah. Anyways, so, yeah. Tbd. We'll see how that goes.

[Ferris]

So that. That's gonna be a really big thing. Really, really exciting.

[Natalie]

Yeah, I'm excited.

[Dave]

How is New Mexico?

[Ferris]

Oh, my God.

[Natalie]

The time of our lives.

[David Dobrik]

And we owe it all to Jonah.

[Dave]

Where'd you stay?

[David Dobrik]

So we went to go see.

[Ferris]

So Jonah's shooting a movie. He's shooting with a really big actor.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

Who maybe you'll see in the next vlog. Maybe we're gonna tease who it is.

[Dave]

Sure.

[David Dobrik]

I mean, dude, I'm actually, like, so.

[Ferris]

Proud of this guy. It's kind of crazy. It's crazy.

[David Dobrik]

Like, I show. Okay. So I showed Zayn some scenes from the movie. Not even scenes. It's just me recording the scenes.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

Zane's just like. I literally have goosebumps. And, like, I'm, like, so happy for him.

[Dave]

Oh, that's nice.

[Ferris]

Because it's like.

[David Dobrik]

I mean, he willed.

[Ferris]

It will never be.

[David Dobrik]

We'll never be able to paint the.

[Ferris]

Picture for people because they don't know Jonah.

[David Dobrik]

Right.

[Ferris]

And he's so extremely. I think they get it maybe, but he's so annoying. Obnoxious.

[David Dobrik]

He's just annoying.

[Ferris]

And I'm not. Okay, so there was a prank we did back in the day where he got this fake movie role, and that 100 stemmed from the greatest biggest ego of all time. Like, it was like, we.

[David Dobrik]

I wanted to put this guy in.

[Ferris]

Place so bad because all he would.

[David Dobrik]

Talk about is how he's. He's not an influencer. He's so much bigger and better. He's an actor.

[Ferris]

Blah, blah, blah. This is a while ago.

[David Dobrik]

He doesn't talk like that anymore.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

But now all he does is talk.

[Ferris]

About movies and films.

[David Dobrik]

And there's.

[Ferris]

There's a. About him being in a movie, being.

[David Dobrik]

A big actor one day.

[Ferris]

And there's a way to talk about that.

[David Dobrik]

Totally. Which is endearing. But he does it in a way where none of us believe him anymore. Right, Right.

[Ferris]

Like, it's gotten to the point where.

[David Dobrik]

It'S just like, what he's talking about is fugazi.

[Ferris]

Like, it's not.

[Dave]

Well, there were a lot of times where it'd be like, I'm starting shooting next month, and it wouldn't happen.

[Ferris]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

For years when we had the Discovery show.

[Dave]

Yes.

[David Dobrik]

So we. Five years ago, we had a Discovery show five years ago.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. The show is incredible. So it had, like, what, a $700,000 per episode? An insane budget. $700,000 per episode. So like, not only were my friends getting paid, but everyone was getting first class seats, best hotel rooms. It was the best setup to visit all. All these fun countries around the world that we got to choose.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

We were like, we want to go to South Africa. So the show's like, here's 700 grand. And they planned all of it, and we got to go and make a South Africa vlog. And they made an episode. And then Jonah, like, is like, we have three more countries left, and we're planning it. And he's like, I can't do it. Like, I can't do it. I have to focus on my movie. We start shooting next week. I can't go to this. I can't do this show. And I'm like, jonah, this is, like, first of all, the most traditional opportunity we've ever had in our lives. Like, all you do is talk about wanting to be traditional and not wanting to be on the Internet. And you finally had this opportunity to be on, like, Discovery. Whatever. It's like, it's very mainstream, and you're saying no to it. And then the movie never started fucking shooting. It's been five years. It's been five years since the Discovery show, and it fi. And the movie finally started shooting two weeks ago, and it's just like, now. Think about that. But think about every week Jonah's coming up to you and saying that his movie's shooting the next month.

[Dave]

Right.

[Ferris]

Right.

[David Dobrik]

Every single month for. For maybe eight years. I don't know how long it was. So, yes, it gets fucking, like, it gets exhausting, and you stop believing in him. And, like, it's just, like. It's just a joke and you just tune it out. But then when you actually. That was a lot of negative just to get to the positive. Yeah, but. But then when you actually see him doing it, it's actually happening. He's actually acting with this guy that's like, such a perfect pair for him. Yeah, it's fucking it. I. I mean, I was there and I was standing on the side, and I was just like. They did a scene together and I was like, wow.

[Dave]

Wow.

[David Dobrik]

And I don't get impressed by anything anymore.

[Dave]

No, you don't.

[David Dobrik]

And I was just like, wow, this is so fucking insane. It's actually happening. They're actually doing this together. I was fucking shocked.

[Dave]

That's a lesson for everybody out there, man. Just fucking keep going and just be delusional. Be delusional until it comes true. Anything happens.

[Ferris]

Yes. Yes, 100%.

[Dave]

That is, you know, that's Just a great lesson. He made it happen. He willed it.

[Ferris]

No.

[David Dobrik]

100% he did.

[Ferris]

But still, like, mind you, how you. You know, you may push away people from doing that, so don't necessarily do.

[David Dobrik]

It as hard as he did.

[Ferris]

But, yes, he should have internalized all those thoughts. And he did. I mean, he just. He was very extroverted up in the morning.

[Dave]

He does manifestation tapes. He does all that.

[Ferris]

I mean, the king of manifesting.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

And, like, everybody that's on there is, like, for him, the actor. The actor that was there saw the prank we pulled on him.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

Seven years ago. And he's like, he. This is a full circle. Like, he manifested this. Like, it's kind of fucking crazy. It is kind of insane. So.

[Dave]

What a story.

[Ferris]

I can't be more happy for him. Like, it's like, dude, it's fucking insane. I really hope this movie does well. I was. There was a scene where he has to cry.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

And I was. It was in. In, like, a hospital. And I was sitting outside with, like, headphones, listening.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

And I'm just hearing Jonah cry. And I'm just like, oh, my God. I can't believe this is happening. He's, like, acting and it's like. And the actor he's working with is so great because he's, like, giving him so many tips. Like, it's the perfect guy to be in this movie with.

[Dave]

Wow.

[Ferris]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Damn.

[Ferris]

And he gave him a high praise. The actor. Actor told him that he reminds him of a young Jonah Hill.

[Dave]

Wow.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

It's kind of crazy coming from that actor, too. Is like, whoa.

[Dave]

Damn. Wow. We're getting Taylor on the pod. And Naveen.

[Ferris]

Okay, friends, Taylor just walked into the.

[David Dobrik]

Room and she said, I could squash the beef with you on the pod.

[Ferris]

I didn't even know we had beef. All right, hit it.

[Taylor]

Well, you called me, and then you were eating your Taco Bell when you were out of town this past weekend. And he told me that we could finish the conversation later.

[Ferris]

Oh, what was the conversation about?

[Taylor]

Well, in my perspective. So the other day, guys, I got a little frustrated with David.

[Ferris]

Oh, this is about camping?

[Taylor]

So this is my problem. Exactly this. He thinks it's about camping.

[Dave]

Okay. And for the audience, camping is. You had to clean up a major stuff.

[Taylor]

Oh, no, no. It's not even that, Jay. We're past that. We squashed. We squashed that.

[Dave]

What was the beef about camping?

[Ferris]

Well, what's our tiff. No, let's make it clear. What's the new. What's the new tiff.

[Taylor]

The new tiff is that you said, I am just here for vibes.

[Ferris]

No, I said, you shouldn't get offended when I say you're here for vibes.

[Natalie]

Well, we.

[Taylor]

Yeah, this is what the point we covered, but we didn't finish.

[Dave]

But I'd be thrilled if David ever said that about me.

[David Dobrik]

That's exactly what I said to her.

[Dave]

If David said, oh, we'll keep Jay around for the vibes, I'd be like, huh, that's amazing. But I know.

[David Dobrik]

I know.

[Dave]

I'm the worst vibes.

[David Dobrik]

So Taylor feels like she's like. Taylor feels like she should be doing more work or whatever. Isn't that what you feel like?

[Taylor]

No, I feel like I do a lot of work.

[David Dobrik]

I actually don't really know what you're saying.

[Dave]

Back to the Runway.

[David Dobrik]

Okay.

[Ferris]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Let's try again.

[Dave]

We're bringing you back in, Dave.

[Taylor]

That brings me to my next problem. So a lot of things that you.

[David Dobrik]

Don'T see, like, actually, you're working behind the scenes. Yes.

[Taylor]

And I have, like, I have multiple people, like, vouching for me, but I.

[David Dobrik]

Have people vouching the opposite way.

[Taylor]

Oh, really?

[David Dobrik]

But I think it's just, like, what people say to your face and what people don't say to your face, vice versa.

[Dave]

I actually sound like, don't think that's true right now. It's just matter of fact. It's like, what people say to your face. But it's like I hear my ears in the ground, and people just aren't brave enough to tell you.

[David Dobrik]

I'm just like, obviously, people say no. Like, I'm saying they're bullshitting me too. And I realize we're both just getting fake things.

[Dave]

Well, I think Taylor. Taylor. David, you said she's here for vibes, and Tay is saying I do more than just vibes. Is that right?

[Taylor]

I'm saying, of course I bring the vibes. But there's. There's days. There's days like yesterday where it's like, okay, what really should I be doing?

[David Dobrik]

Right?

[Taylor]

Because it's, like, a slow day, David's laying on the couch. It's like. Then there's days and weekends and, like, when you're having a conversation, you're on three meeting calls, and we haven't done anything, and I'm waiting here till 8pm to, like, I don't know, be vibes.

[David Dobrik]

You do realize you don't ever have to work past, like, 5 or 6pm that is your choice why you're here so late.

[Taylor]

I agree.

[David Dobrik]

But you do realize that you stay here late and we actually try to send you home, but you refuse. I mean, tell me, am I right?

[Taylor]

Okay.

[David Dobrik]

I mean, am I right?

[Taylor]

Yeah, but we're not twisting this the wrong way. There's a lot of things.

[David Dobrik]

Right, right, right. So, okay, so she's saying two things can be right, two things can be true. You like working here.

[Taylor]

Of course you like being here. I'm complimented that. Now I know what you mean by bringing the vibes.

[Dave]

Oh, nice.

[Taylor]

But at the time.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, yeah. So she originally, she's just like. She got offended. Okay. So this is how it started. Taylor is like head of Snapchat stuff and vibes. That's what I say she's. She does here.

[Dave]

Okay, okay.

[David Dobrik]

Okay. I think sometimes she feels like she needs a greater purpose.

[Dave]

Okay.

[David Dobrik]

Which I totally understand, because a person should feel that. And then it's. The fight started with. The fight started with she had to clean up something at the house. And I was like, oh, I'm sorry that you have to do some work today. And then she got. Excuse me. She got mad. I shouldn't have said that. I was obviously being snippy.

[Ferris]

Sure.

[Taylor]

Well, you said you can't just always bring the vibes. And I was like, what? I do a lot more than that.

[David Dobrik]

And I only said that because. Because she. I can. Normally she gets offended when I say she brings the vibes. Yeah, because of. Because, yeah, she wants, like, a bigger purpose. But then I explained to her, I'm like, listen, anybody can do the other parts of your job. Anybody can make food. Anybody could set up a bit. Anybody can strike down a bit.

[Dave]

Right.

[David Dobrik]

Anybody can move this to their A to Z, drive me to the airport. But to bring the vibes is. I mean, especially with me, is very tough. One in a million.

[Dave]

Sure.

[David Dobrik]

Right.

[Dave]

Okay.

[Taylor]

So of course I got frustrated after he said, well, you can't just always bring the vibes.

[Natalie]

So I.

[Taylor]

Of course, we didn't have this conversation until he explained to me a few days later that how much value is in David's vibes. And so I appreciate that.

[David Dobrik]

Like, Natalie will get mad at John. Yeah.

[Dave]

Does Natalie bring the vibes?

[David Dobrik]

Fuck no. She brings the vibes. She does.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Like, in a different way.

[Dave]

Okay.

[David Dobrik]

And to be honest, majority of my hires are vibe hires. Like, I don't really. I don't hire. Do you think I hired Ilya to run Dobriks and Zela because he was the smartest in our school? I've no dude that had like a 2.7Gpa, arguably one of the dumbest kids in our high school.

[Ferris]

But is he one of the.

[David Dobrik]

Was he one of the funnest kids in high school?

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

If not the funnest kid in school, sure. 100%. I don't hire people based on their merits. I don't hire people because I believe that they'll go far in the business world. I hire them because I want to hang out.

[Dave]

Sure.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Dave]

Sam Altman. Same way.

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[David Dobrik]

Actually, Elon. Oh, okay. Fuck with me.

[Taylor]

And then I put into perspective.

[Ferris]

People on Shark Tank. Yo. I know you want 25% of business.

[David Dobrik]

But how fast can you chug a beer?

[Taylor]

No, I put into perspective, like, me the first day that I was, like, working for or.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Working for David or the first year that I was hired. And it is truly impossible to be Vibes.

[Dave]

No, you are Vibes, you know? Highly. David speaks of you when you're not around. He literally.

[Taylor]

I know.

[Dave]

I just wish sometimes. Sometimes everything will be wrong and he'll be yelling at all of us, and then he'll be like, I just wish Taylor was here. Where's Taylor? Taylor's the only one I like. He literally hear him say that, like, so many times lately, too.

[Taylor]

That's why I stay. That's why I. That's. It's, you know, my decision to be here 24 8. I will agree with that.

[David Dobrik]

Is. What do you want more of? Do you want me to.

[Taylor]

No, no, I just want.

[David Dobrik]

What do you want from me?

[Ferris]

How can I. I just want you.

[Taylor]

To acknowledge that there is more than vibes.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. 100%.

[Ferris]

You do.

[David Dobrik]

No, you do more than vibes.

[Taylor]

But I cook, I clean.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah.

[Ferris]

No, no, no, no.

[David Dobrik]

You crush those, and you do them with love. And I'm always so impressed with how you put things together.

[Taylor]

And then I'm like, you know, I cook, I clean. Yeah. Like, there's a lot more, you know, when there's the helping hand in terms.

[Dave]

Of doing more, too. I don't think there's a better job than doing Snapchat. That's, like, a really important job.

[David Dobrik]

No, no. Yeah. And I always say that. I was like, this is, like, majority of our income.

[Dave]

That's what I was gonna say.

[David Dobrik]

I know. I know it feels. Yeah, I know it feels goofy. Cause we're reviewing an RC airplane I just bought off TikTok shop for $125. But, like, believe it or not, it is the majority of our income. So, like.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

So I don't know.

[Dave]

Look at it that way.

[Taylor]

Right? It was just in the moment.

[David Dobrik]

More money than Natalie.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

So, yeah, okay.

[Taylor]

I just wanted to squash the beef by saying nice. I understand the value in David's vibes, and at the time, it made me angry because I wasn't thinking in, like, from a David's brain perspective.

[David Dobrik]

Oh, so. Oh, you're squashing the beef by almost by agreeing with me. I didn't even realize this. I was being defensive here for no reason.

[Taylor]

Well, I'm sort of agreeing with you, but I'm also saying don't forget about the other things that I do.

[David Dobrik]

Right. Okay, okay. But you've backtracked a little bit. Now you're more on my side than you were before.

[Taylor]

No. Well, it did hurt my feelings, but I'm saying that my feelings are no longer hurt because I understand how much value you hold in vibes.

[Ferris]

Okay. Oh, there you go.

[David Dobrik]

Wow.

[Dave]

What a happy ending.

[David Dobrik]

Well, yeah.

[Dave]

It is getting to be the end of the year. We need to squash all our beefs.

[David Dobrik]

Well, good job, Tay.

[Taylor]

But it was your tone that you said it in, that you can't just always bring the vibes.

[David Dobrik]

Well, yeah, I know. I was definitely trying to get under your skin because you're frustrating me.

[Taylor]

Yeah, but you can't get under your skin.

[David Dobrik]

You know why? Because you got drunk. And when you're drunk, it's. It's very. It's not fun.

[Taylor]

He. Okay, okay, we'll squash it.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, okay, we'll squash it. I don't want to get into it either.

[Taylor]

John's working the other.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, John's working right now.

[Dave]

How is John working out as your assistant, Tay?

[Taylor]

Oh, he's not.

[Dave]

He's just your new hand.

[Taylor]

My new. Oh, I love. I love John.

[David Dobrik]

Okay, so John argued today that he has. So John is. John is our friend who. We also hired another guy when Natalie, like, tells him to do things and he doesn't do it. I have to tell Natalie. I'm like, nat, he's not here to work.

[Dave]

Sure, sure. He's not a real person.

[Taylor]

I will say it's so nice having John around. Cause he actually just, like, he brings the vibe in.

[Ferris]

That's how Taylor discovered that.

[David Dobrik]

No.

[Taylor]

Yeah, he just. He doesn't really, like, complain much. He'll just be like. He'll be like, all right, let's go.

[David Dobrik]

Cause he doesn't do anything. I'll be like, jon, can you.

[Ferris]

Can you.

[Taylor]

And you really have to tell him, like, what to do.

[David Dobrik]

You know, I told him, hey, in the morning, can you put all the Kids Choice Awards back on the shelf?

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

And John never does anything I ever ask him. Like, it's 100% of the time. He always forgets. So I looked at Alex, and I go, alex, you see what I just told John? And Alex goes, noted. You want him to put the Kids Choice Awards back on the shelf in front of John? Does this in front of John, this whole thing. And then I come in, next morning, I walk downstairs. I mean, I see John, like, 3 or 4pm Kids Choice Awards, not on the shelf.

[Dave]

Oh, my God.

[David Dobrik]

I'm like, john, where are the Kids Choice Awards? And he goes, you canceled the party. And I go, that has nothing to do with anything. Why did you combine those two things?

[Dave]

Right?

[David Dobrik]

Like, it had nothing to do with anything, but they just need to go back to where they belong. Yeah, but, like, that's how he does it. He'll, like, take an excuse and he'll be like, do something. Yeah. Like, it'll be like, john, I need you to. I need you to wash these. These sheets. And then I'll ask him to go see Frankenstein in theaters. And he'll be like, we're gonna go see Frankenstein later. It'll make no sense. There'll be no connection. Frankenstein's in six hours, but for some reason, I don't know. So. Yeah, so John's. John's pretty interesting working here too. John works two jobs. He works for me, and he works for Ilya.

[Dave]

Okay.

[David Dobrik]

Ilya. He does the podcast with. And Ilya has now instructed him to try to lose weight again.

[Dave]

Okay.

[David Dobrik]

Part of the Zeala Challenge. So today we were having, like, a meeting, like, the company meeting, and John was sitting there, and we were talking about hours of working. And Natalie's like, well, you do play pickleball for six hours a day. He played three hours this morning, and he's playing right now as we're recording the pod. And John's like. And John's like, that's work for me.

[Dave]

Why does that work?

[David Dobrik]

Because he's losing weight. Oh, so damn. So now we're not allowed to bother him when he's playing pickleball.

[Dave]

Damn. People got it good around here.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, it's pretty.

[Dave]

People got it really good.

[Ferris]

No, it's incredible.

[Dave]

Unbelievable.

[Ferris]

It's one of the best places ever.

[Taylor]

Wait, sorry. That was my favorite line in this argument, David. When David said, I'm here for vibes, John goes, oh, man, we can get.

[Natalie]

Paid to do that.

[Ferris]

Everybody around Taylor thought the vibes thing was great. It's like, you always want what you don't have.

[Dave]

Will you be hiring any Anybody else?

[Natalie]

Yes.

[Dave]

Really?

[David Dobrik]

Yes. Now real people that's chiming in. Nat says no more vibe hires.

[Dave]

Sorry, any more vibe hires coming? That's all I care about.

[Natalie]

No more vibes. We are maxed out on friend capacity here.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah, that is true.

[Ferris]

We've hired too many people.

[Natalie]

But. Yeah. What? No, no.

[David Dobrik]

We've hired too many people to do nothing.

[Dave]

Right, right.

[David Dobrik]

Right is the way. So now we need to start.

[Ferris]

Yeah, we need to start doing it for real now.

[Dave]

You're going to have to have awkward conversations with people that you don't know around the house.

[Ferris]

No, no, not really. Like, we have this girl that works with us. Her name's Brooke and she works till like 6pm she just leaves.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. Okay.

[Dave]

Brooke is not a vibe.

[Ferris]

I know that doesn't sound crazy to anybody listening to the pod, but it's.

[David Dobrik]

So crazy to us because every time she leaves, fucking, she leaves that 602.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

On the dot.

[Dave]

Okay.

[David Dobrik]

Does not care what's going on. Leaves, leaves. DiCaprio could be sitting on the couch. She's like, I'm out 6:02, I'm clocking out. But nobody does that here. But like, that's just. That's just the way she wants to live life. Which is awesome.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

But it's so funny because. No, but like, you know what I mean.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Natalie]

She has.

[David Dobrik]

Taylor's here watching Prisoner of Azkaban, Harry Potter till 11:30. But she's just like, I'm out. And that. I think that's really cool. That's like our first person that like has a separate life that has actual work life, balance.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[David Dobrik]

Everyone else here suffers with it because.

[Dave]

Did Brooke get drunk at the Halloween party?

[David Dobrik]

Zane always fucking targets Brooke when he's out. Jerky. Because I think Zayn always wants everyone to have fun.

[Ferris]

Sure.

[David Dobrik]

For some reason Zane's just like, brooke, it's time to let loose. Let's go. And they always take so many shots.

[Dave]

Really?

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. And Brooke, at the last Halloween or.

[Natalie]

No, what was it at your birthday party?

[David Dobrik]

At my birthday she was like, dave, let's take a shot. Which is crazy for her to say. And I was like, I'm good. And then she came up to me again and she was like, david, let's take a shot. Wait, should we get her in? Yes, she here.

[Dave]

She left.

[Natalie]

It's 6:02. She's gone.

[David Dobrik]

Should we get her 603. This is also dangerous territory because this is how things happen.

[Dave]

Yeah. Now she's going to be going to the Marvel movie with you.

[David Dobrik]

No, like you include someone in a bit and then it's fucking.

[Dave]

Yeah, it's over.

[David Dobrik]

Yeah. We have Brooke here.

[Natalie]

Hey, guys.

[Ferris]

Brooke.

[Dave]

Brooke. There's $1,800 missing.

[Brooke]

Oh, I don't know anything about that.

[Taylor]

That's good.

[Ferris]

She doesn't want to snitch on Natalie.

[David Dobrik]

I know. Now, we are talking about how long have you been working here?

[Brooke]

I've been working here for like three and a half years now.

[David Dobrik]

Wow. Which is crazy. And successfully. I've never put her on camera or anything. Wow. We were just talking about how everyone here has this thing where they, like, the work life is. You can attest to this. Like, the work and the life is like, very mixed. No. Or like.

[Natalie]

Like there's zero work life balance. Typically, yeah, there's zero work life balance.

[Brooke]

But I feel like I've, like, managed to kind of do it.

[David Dobrik]

That's why we brought you in, because you're the only person that leaves on.

[Ferris]

Leaves at 6pm on the dock.

[Dave]

Are you writing novels at night?

[Brooke]

Yeah, I'm writing a biography.

[Dave]

That's not at least a preference.

[David Dobrik]

No, but it is like, you're the. You're the only person that's done it successfully.

[Natalie]

Yeah.

[Brooke]

I think, like, if you ask anyone else in my life, though, they would say I have not done it successfully.

[Taylor]

Successfully.

[Brooke]

Like, there's definitely weird hours for sure, but I'm the only one here that actually, like, has hours. Like, I will, like, leave if I can. Everyone else just like, sits and stays out to like 10, like 10pm at night.

[Natalie]

I don't know.

[David Dobrik]

Are you ever like, bam, I wish I was chilling till 10pm or are.

[Ferris]

You always like, get me the fuck out of here?

[Taylor]

Depends.

[Brooke]

I feel like I have like, my own schedule outside. Like, you guys all kind of live in this area. I live somewhere else.

[David Dobrik]

Like, you have like a different life.

[Brooke]

Yeah, yeah, I have like a life outside side of it. Yeah. You guys are all just like.

[David Dobrik]

No. 100% you do. That's why it's, like, really interesting. Yeah, yeah. We were just talking about how, like, when Taylor first started working here, it was very much like she was working here, but then it slowly got like she wasn't working here and she was just like, hanging out. And then now, I mean, Taylor.

[Taylor]

But wait, you keep referring to like, multiple people, but, like, we are the only two people who didn't grow up with you that work here other than, like, Ferris.

[David Dobrik]

Well, I'm talking about, like, Bella too. Emma is now dating Ilya.

[Ferris]

I mean, it's the list.

[David Dobrik]

The list does kind of go on. Like, it is. Like, it is very much like. Like, everyone just, like, ends up hanging out here at the house. Yeah. Congratulations, Brooke.

[Ferris]

That's all.

[Natalie]

Wow.

[Brooke]

Great to be on the podcast. Nice to meet everyone.

[Dave]

Good luck with the novel.

[Ferris]

Good luck with the book. All right, guys, that's all the time we have for today's podcast. Thank you for joining us. Naveed, Taylor, Jason, Brooke, maybe even John. I don't even remember who walked into this room. We'll see you guys later. Bye.

[Dave]

Bye.