Worst Money Ever Spent

Summary

Podcast Summary: VIEWS with David Dobrik & Jason Nash

Episode: Worst Money Ever Spent
Date: November 21, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, David Dobrik and Jason Nash dive deep into the theme of “the worst money ever spent” — from wild investments on Pokémon cards and meme coins to extravagant vlogging bits that rarely see the light of day. In their classic banter-filled style, they reflect on their biggest money losses, creative projects, the economics of movies and YouTube, and the wild behind-the-scenes of their lives as creators. The duo also discusses the evolving world of content creation, AI, and how technology is reshaping personal and professional pursuits.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. David’s Pokémon Card Fiasco

• $30,000 Pokémon Box Purchase:
  • David recounts how he bought an unopened 1999 Pokémon card booster box for $30,000 because of a spontaneous interest from his friend Alex Ernst (03:12–03:43).
  • The box originally cost the seller $6 in 1999 and had become a rare collector’s item.
• Opening the Box (and the Harsh Reality):
  • David’s goal wasn’t to profit but to experience the thrill, possibly gift a valuable card to a deserving kid, and create content for his vlog (03:52–06:13).
  • The sought-after holographic Charizard card, often rumored to be worth hundreds of thousands, was actually only about $9,000 (06:00–06:04).
  • "To me, it wasn't about making money. I really wanted to open the pack and then go back card store and find a kid that's like... get him this card that he would not have access to..." —David (06:21–06:38).
  • Total haul from all the cards was worth about $12,000 — an $18,000 loss (06:52–07:01).
• Psychology and Regret:
  • Frustration set in after hours of delicate card-opening for little reward.
  • "I was so fucking defeated after the box, where I'm like, fuck this. I just went to lay down right away because I was like, I can't believe we just opened…it took an hour…and get zero pulls." —David (09:36–09:46).

2. Other Bad Money Decisions

• Ironman Statue & AMC Stock:
  • David references his $10,000 Ironman statue that got stolen and a loss on AMC stock as other regretful purchases (10:06–10:17).
• Jason’s Meme Coin Disaster:
  • Jason lost $30,000 on a meme coin, sucked in by group excitement and FOMO (10:30–10:43).
  • "I wish I had that money still." —Jason (10:32).
  • Scott Sire’s crypto advice led to brief optimism, but the coin collapsed soon after (10:53–11:09).

3. Stocks, Investments, and Personal Finance

• David’s Cautious Approach:
  • After being “so fucking stupid” about risky investments, David now uses professional management for his finances and avoids checking his portfolio obsessively (12:00–12:18).
  • Reflects on almost investing a million in Tesla at age 19–20, but sold early and made only $4,000 instead of millions:
    • "How much of a pussy you have to be to put a million dollars in the stock and only make four grand?…I should either be losing 400 grand or making eight million." —David (13:27–13:45).
  • Admits that he would have sold as soon as he saw a $300,000 gain, never waiting for the potential $11–$20 million (14:13–14:29).

4. Creative Projects vs. Profit: The Cost of Vlog Bits

• Expensive Costumes for Short Bits:
  • They discuss spending huge amounts of money and time (e.g., Hollywood-level prosthetics and costumes) for quick moments in a vlog:
    • "Why do we work like that? Anyone else… Any other production entity would be like, okay, let's get the most out of this very expensive time. Consuming. Time consuming. It was…six hours on the day for me to get in the makeup and…the test, five hours. Time is money. And…you're only seeing a minute 30." —Jason (19:26–20:00).
  • David points out similarities to big-budget Hollywood movies, where short scenes can cost a fortune (20:12–20:20).

5. Business Ideas and Summer Christmas Trees

• David jokes about starting a business selling summertime Christmas trees, trying to capture the “warmth of Christmas” year-round (16:00–17:09).

6. Vegas F1 Experience and Brand Sponsorships

• Discuss the luxury and brand-driven experience of attending Vegas F1, with paddock passes costing $30,000–$40,000 per person (23:38–24:03).
• The "full experience" expectation — staying out partying all night as part of sponsored content obligations (25:34–27:01).

7. Film Industry Insights: The Death of Comedies

• Changing Economics:
  • Streaming services and shortened windows from theaters to home have hurt movie profits and particularly comedies, which relied on DVD sales (33:45–34:16).
  • "Once that went away, people were like, I'm not going to greenlight any comedies. Like, why would I fucking do that? They don't sell internationally." —Jason (34:07–34:16).
• Action and horror are now the go-to genres for financiers (34:32–35:03).

8. AI and Content Creation

• Sora and AI Video Creativity:
  • David admits to scrolling AI-generated videos on Sora for inspiration, finding their weirdness matches his vlog ambitions (36:02–36:57).
  • "I feel like a lot of creative people are lazy and I feel like that allows a lot of…lazy people to get their creative thoughts out there." —David (37:31–37:33).
• On Copying Content:
  • They discuss the fine line between inspiration and copying, with David preferring to work directly with the original content creator if replicating an idea (38:12–38:19).
• AI and Creativity Anxiety:
  • Some creatives are anxious about being replaced, but David believes true creatives will adapt and use AI as a tool (43:06–43:36).

9. On Technology & The Creator Economy

• Discuss how iPhones and Apple’s new “mini apps” are revolutionizing personal content creation, making it much more accessible for everyone with a phone (41:26–42:44).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Charizard Card Value:
  • Jason: “I looked it up. It's like 336,000.”
  • David, debunking: “No, it’s not a million dollars…a couple days before, the Charizard's worth like $9,000.” (05:37–06:04)
• On Losing $18,000 on Pokémon Cards:
  • Jason: “So, it’s eight. You lost 18,000.” (07:01)
  • David, defeated: “I can’t believe we just opened...all the cards very softly, and then...get zero pulls.” (09:36–09:46)
• On Meme Coin Loss:
  • Jason: “Like, 30,000.”
  • David: “Shut the up.” (10:36–10:38)
• On Creative Paranoia:
  • David (on AI): “If you're a creative, I think you’ll find your way around it…But I’m also talking…prematurely because AI is fairly new, so God knows how intense it’s going to get.” (43:20–43:36)
• On Content Creation Today:
  • Jason: “When I think about when I was a kid and to be like, like, wow, I’d love to make movies, but it’s like…impossible...Now it’s just like, you can just fucking do anything. It’s so fucking cool.” (40:50–41:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment | |-------------|----------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:08–09:46 | David’s Pokémon card story — worst money ever spent | | 09:46–11:54 | Other regretful purchases and meme coin losses | | 12:00–14:29 | Cautious investing and missing out on Tesla gains | | 17:04–18:39 | Summer Christmas tree and expensive vlog bits | | 23:38–27:01 | Behind the scenes: Vegas F1, paddock passes, and brand events | | 33:45–35:03 | Why comedies died in theaters; shift to action/horror | | 36:02–37:33 | AI, inspiration, and content copying | | 41:05–42:44 | The future of content creation and technology’s role | | 43:06–45:22 | Creatives and AI anxiety - adapting to new tools |

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is a comedic yet honest look at the realities of spending big in pursuit of the next viral moment or investment win, the heartaches of creative risk, and the changing tides of both Hollywood and YouTube. David and Jason are self-deprecating but hopeful, finding meaning (and humor) in both their wins and losses — and offering relatable insights for any creative or dreamer risking their wallet or ego in the pursuit of something memorable.

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Best Quote to Sum Up the Episode:
"This is a $30,000 podcast story." — Jason Nash (06:16–06:18)

Transcript

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What's up, guys? And welcome back to Views. Jay, I'm gonna start this pod off. I'm gonna give you two options for what story you want to hear first.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I'm gonna give you. And you can decide which one you want to hear.

[A]

Choose your own fantasy.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Amazing. An interactive pod.

[B]

This is an interactive pod. And if you're at home, start yelling. Yeah, start yelling if you want option A or option B. And I'm gonna see if you picked the right option. Okay, Jay, which one do you want?

[A]

I will take option A.

[B]

Okay. And now people at home. Oh, option B. Isaac. Okay.

[A]

Oh, my God. Isaac. Okay.

[B]

Isaac gets to say, I hope there's an dude. Please tell me if you're an Isaac.

[A]

There's definitely an Isaac.

[B]

Option B. Okay. So I've finally decided that I've. That I know.

[A]

Well, I don't know. I was waiting for something, like, major.

[B]

Always ask me what my worst money is that I've ever spent.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I've never. I've never actually had an answer because, like, everything I've put to use, like, everything, like, whether if. Even if it is the worst money, I've put used to it. And I guess me spending this money and me talking about it now is kind of me putting used to it, because I'm talking about in the podcast.

[A]

I know you're going to say, yeah.

[B]

Yeah, it's the Pokemon cards.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

It's a bit that never went in this vlog. It was supposed to be. I've actually had the Pokemon cards for a full month. So this is what I did. Alex Ernst came over and he had this weird obsession with Pokemon cards or with just cards. He wanted to open cards So I was like, okay, let's go to the card store and figure out about this. Whenever Alex is interested into something, like, I'm kind of like, okay, let's see this through. Because Alex is like, a very, like, you know, childlike personality.

[A]

Very specific. Likes and wants.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So interesting in his. Whatever he likes.

[B]

Yeah. Whatever he decides he likes is interesting.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's like, I want to. I want to support it. I want to participate in it. So he liked opening cards. So we went to the card store, and obviously I've seen, like, YouTube. I've seen, like, Logan Paul open, like, expensive Pokemon cards. Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I'm like, okay, let me get one of those packs so we can open. And I found one pack.

[A]

A box.

[B]

A box. Like, it's the. It's a. It's the Pokemon box. If you know anything about Pokemon cards, you've seen it. It's a box of Pokemon cards from the year 1999. Everything in this pack is unopened. The pack itself is unopened. And the package costs $30,000, which is a lot of fun. $30,000. Now think about it. This guy bought these Pokemon cards in 1999 for $6. The whole pack.

[A]

Sure, sure.

[B]

$6.

[A]

The whole box.

[B]

The whole box.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then just left it unopened for whatever reason.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Maybe he forgot about it for a year. Maybe never really cared about it. Maybe he. Maybe he knew that one day to be worth something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now here we are, what, 26 years later. Yeah. It's worth $30,000.

[A]

Unreal. Did you check the market on that? Like, did you look around? Like, that's going right.

[B]

30,000 is fair. He's a school teacher.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And the family's been in his. Or the box has been in his family for two generations. Right. So it's like, kind of a big deal. It was passed down through his. Like, through different people in his family, and now he's taking care of it, and he's decided to let it go and sell it. So he even told us. He's like, please record everything. Or, like, at least send me a picture of all the cards that are in it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So why Pokemon cards are interesting to open for the people that aren't. Okay, let me tell you this. This was my plan with the Pokemon box. I am completely. I have no idea about Pokemon. I played Yu Gi oh. As a kid. That's as far as I go with cards. I don't know anything about Pokemon.

[A]

What is Pokemon? I mean, Yu Gi oh, it's like, A Nintendo game?

[B]

Well, it's same as Pokemon.

[A]

It's just like, like a guy bopping.

[B]

Around you with care.

[A]

Fantasy game. Yeah.

[B]

Mystical characters. No, it's a card game.

[A]

Card game.

[B]

So. Okay, so I, I, I already felt a little weird buying the cards because, like, I know there's Pokemon lovers out there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, but that was my whole thing. My whole thing was the most expensive card in the deck is a holographic Charizard. That's what you're trying to get. And the chances of you pulling one of those Charizards is very low. But I was like, I'm sure we're going to get it. Like, what are the chances? There's 36 packs in this box. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Each pack may or may not have a holographic Charizard.

[A]

About eight cards per pack.

[B]

Huh?

[A]

About eight cards per pack.

[B]

Eight cards per pack.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then if you get the holographic Charizard, it's worth a lot of money. You want to guess how much money it's worth?

[A]

I looked it up.

[B]

How much?

[A]

It's like 336,000.

[B]

It's really funny that you think that.

[A]

Okay, tell me.

[B]

Because while we were so I filmed it for the vlog where we're opening all the cards and every. I told nobody what anything was worth.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Because I wanted you to have like all your own beliefs about it. You even were saying that it's a million dollar card.

[A]

I just, I don't know why I said that. I just assumed. I thought you said that.

[B]

No, it's not a million dollars. A couple days before the Charizard's worth like $9,000.

[A]

Oh, you're kidding.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't want to tell you that because like I wanted to be really exciting when it opened and to.

[A]

Me is the worst money you ever spent.

[B]

Yeah. To me it wasn't about, it wasn't about making money.

[A]

This is a $30,000 podcast story.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I hope they're enjoying it.

[B]

To me, it wasn't about making money. I really wanted to open the pack and then go back card store and find a kid that's like getting, like not getting into Pokemon, but really loves Pokemon.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And get in this car that he would not have access to, which would be a nine thousand dollar Charizard.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I was really excited.

[A]

Start his collection.

[B]

Start his collection and give him all the cards. I have no use for any of the cards.

[A]

Yeah, that would have been nice.

[B]

Really sick. And, and maybe I still will buy.

[A]

I still do that.

[B]

Maybe if you see this in the vlog, then. Yeah, then maybe, but didn't.

[A]

Weren't a lot of the cards that you pulled worth. Yeah, about like, altogether, like, 12 grand or something?

[B]

Yeah, there's a couple of cards that are still worth. Yeah, something.

[A]

So it's eight. You lost 18,000.

[B]

But it wasn't like the big car.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But yeah, so it was really funny because Jason, I was editing the footage back, even though. Even though I was like, I'm not using any of this, I just still wanted to look at the footage. And there was a moment where I'm like, okay, this next deck is dedicated to Jason and his kids. Like, it's. All the money's going to Jason's kids tuition. And I didn't know at the time that Jason assumed the card was $1 million. So Jason's like, oh, my God, thank God. He was fucking ecstatic. And I was like, oh, I was really excited about this.

[A]

Yeah. You would have been able to cover the meal plan, college.

[B]

Yeah, that's what. That's why I thank God we didn't win on that deck. Imagine you have been so excited. I would have had a feeling like, it's only nine grand. Nine K. And I only say nine grand because entire box cost 30,000.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Which. Which I don't even understand why. Why the box costs that much.

[A]

Yeah, I don't either.

[B]

Yeah. So. And the way you open Pokemon cards, it's really funny. Like, you have to be really delicate with it. So, like. Like, if there's a little. The cards only worth a lot of money if it's. You have to send it into PSA that they grade the card, and if it's graded a 10, that's when it's worth a lot. It's very difficult to pull a 10. Everything has to be perfect. No dust, no creases. The edges can't be smushed even a little bit. The printing has to be perfect. No discoloration. Everything has to be absolutely perfect. So even if you pull the Charizard, you have to go through steps to make sure it's that one. But it's really funny because even just the box that it sits in, it sits in a cardboard box. Like the shittiest cardboard box.

[A]

Yeah, like.

[B]

Like what you get your Chick Fil a burger in.

[A]

Yeah, Right.

[B]

Like that type of cardboard. And even that box, if you just resell, the box alone is going for $2,000.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So there are, like, bits you can kind of unfrankenstein the box and sell bits and pieces of it.

[A]

And then you were. You were ready to buy another box.

[B]

Yeah, I was just livid because I was like, I'm already 30 grand in the hole. And that's when I started. It was. It wasn't about making money ever.

[A]

Right. It was just about, like, getting the bit.

[B]

Getting the bit. And just, like, I wanted to fucking feel the joy of seeing this orange.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Fucking dinosaur on this card or whatever a charizard is actually known as.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Dragon. Sorry, not dinosaur.

[A]

And then we were gonna have a big garage sale.

[B]

Had a funny idea. Yeah. He was like, let's have a garage sale and we'll sell all of our things just to buy a second box. But it was raining. It was raining. It's been raining all week, so we couldn't get that bit done. And I was so fucking defeated after the box, where I'm like, fuck this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I just. I just went to lay down right away because I was like, I can't believe we just opened. It took an hour to open all the cards very softly, and then to. To open all of them and get zero pulls.

[A]

And we had Vardon there, too, which is a hazard.

[B]

Vardon was there, which was really dangerous for the cards. But we made it through. But, yeah, I was. I don't know. That is now. I now have an answer for the worst money I've ever spent, which I've never. That's the one question that I get, like, so often and never have a good answer to.

[A]

Yeah, that one's got to be up there.

[B]

Yeah. Right. It's right next to the Ironman statue that got stolen by that creepy dude in fucking West Covina.

[A]

How much is that?

[B]

That was 10 grand.

[A]

Oh, and AMC.

[B]

AMC, that's. That spending money, though. That's just like. That's just like, you know, because I didn't buy anything. I was buying stocks.

[A]

For me. My. The. The meme coin we bought. That was the bad. That was bad.

[B]

Really awful.

[A]

Oh, my God. I wish I had that money still.

[B]

How much you put in?

[A]

Like, 30,000.

[B]

Shut the up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, dude. Yeah, That's a lot of money.

[A]

I know. Really bad. Really bad. And we were all doing it, so I was like, oh, it'll be fine. Everyone's doing it. It'll. We'll work it out.

[B]

It's exactly why I thought it was fine.

[A]

Yeah, we've talked about it. So fucking dumb.

[B]

Yeah. Scott Sire had us all change our coins from dogecoin or. No, from doge to hoage.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or from hoage to doge. Whatever. It was doge to hoj. And then the second we bought this coin.

[A]

No, no, it went up and it went up. It was going up for a while.

[B]

Wait, really?

[A]

Yeah. That was the story I told you where Heath was like, we're gonna be like billionaires.

[B]

I don't think it was going up, Jay. I think it was just. It was just sitting.

[A]

No, there was a time where it.

[B]

Was like we were never like 2x our money. That's what I'm saying. And that coin wasn't supposed to 2x. It was either going to crash and burn or is gonna thousand x. Yeah. Like there was no, you know, no one was gonna. And that's the problem when you buy things like that is like, if it 3x'd mm, would you really sell? When it got to 90,000, would you really sell?

[A]

Right.

[B]

No, no, no. You'd be like, I've. You'd be like, this is only the beginning till it crashes. It's just. That's why I just don't. I don't do any of that shit anymore. Cuz I'm so fucking stupid when it comes to it.

[A]

What do you do for, like, stocks and stuff? Do you have somebody handle that?

[B]

I have somebody do it.

[A]

You do, but you look at it.

[B]

No.

[A]

You don't look at it at all?

[B]

Fuck, no. So that, I mean, that's the story of when I invested in amc.

[A]

Do you get returns on your stocks? Like, like yearly returns or monthly returns or do you just let it sit there?

[B]

I think they do returns.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Because they, like my accountant makes. Makes enough money, I think, to pay for himself, basically.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

From the stocks.

[A]

That's pretty cool.

[B]

But what was he going to say? That was. Yeah, yeah. The only time I've done stocks is I just became a Chase private client. Yeah, I was like, freshly 19 or whatever or 20, 20. 2020 or 21.

[A]

Oh, they must have loved seeing you come in the bank.

[B]

It was great. I had this incredible lady who worked with me. She was like an older Filipino woman. I fucking loved her.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

And yeah, she always took care of me. And then I went into like the other offices that Chase Private client and I was like, I'm going to invest. This is right when I bought my Tesla. I've told the story and I was like, I want to put a million dollars on Tesla. The guy's looking at me like, what? I had like a million. I have maybe 2 million in the bank. I actually don't know how much I have in the bank. But I was ready to risk it all on Tesla.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

God, I wish I kept that money there.

[A]

Why you sell?

[B]

Why I sell? Get scared, cuz. Dead ass. The day after.

[A]

Yeah, it.

[B]

It shot down like crazy. And I was checking it every five minutes.

[A]

You got scared.

[B]

I was like, I don't care how much money I could potentially make. This is so aggravating. Like, I'm looking at my phone every fucking five seconds of the stock, and then it got above what I bought it for.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I made about four grand. You know what? You know how you know much of a pussy you have to be to bet, you know, stupid? And how much of a pussy you have to be to put a million dollars in the stock and only make four grand? Like, I should either be losing 400 grand.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or making fucking eight million.

[A]

How much did you have? You left it in, huh? How much would you have today?

[B]

I mean, I've. I've gotten different numbers because Tesla's stock has split between that. So it's become even crazier. Anywhere between 11 to, like, 20 million just from that stock.

[A]

You think it would have changed you if you had it? If you. If you had that kind of money? Like, let's say by like 2020 or 2022. You're like, all right, Dave, it's time to sell. You've made 20 million.

[B]

But that's the thing is, like, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna sit around, wait for my million dollars. Like, do you. I mean, it's not like I say I would have had 11 to 25 million, but, Jay, the second I made 300,000, I would have pulled out. Oh, do you? I mean, I would have never waited that long.

[A]

Right, right, right, right.

[B]

Like, it's just like. Yeah, I guess is the opposite of what I'm saying.

[A]

When you have more money, you could have been like, oh, yeah, I'll leave it.

[B]

But I'd never had that much more money where a million dollars was comfortable in one stock. Yeah, that's. That's. That is the dumbest thing in the world. And the guy was like, are you sure you're doing this? I can't talk you out of it because it is your money, but it's. It's completely, completely, like, not responsible. This episode is brought to you by PayPal. PayPal helps you make the most of your money. You can earn 20% cash back when you pay in four with PayPal from now through December 8th. No fees, no interest. Act now to get this limited time offer.

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All right, next, the other option.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That I want to tell you about. I'm thinking of starting a new business.

[A]

What?

[B]

This is serious. I just yawned. This is serious.

[A]

That's the name of it.

[B]

No. So you know how I love Christmas trees?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I have three.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And every time I have them, I'm like, okay, this is what the house has been missing all year. Like, every time I have them in my home.

[A]

It is nice in here with those trees. It's. It's like, incredible.

[B]

It completes it.

[A]

They're tall, they're colorful. He's got three of them and they're all over.

[B]

They sit in the perfect corner. They're lighting up. It's like a warm light. So I'm going to invent something for, like, summertime Christmas trees.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, that's my new. That's my invention.

[A]

I did that. Same type of tree.

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, different Palm tree, maybe.

[B]

Yeah. I'm thinking, like, palm tree.

[A]

Palm tree isn't warm like a Christmas tree, though. A palm tree is like. It's like, kind of prehistoric looking.

[B]

Well, I'm gonna have to figure this out.

[A]

It's mostly just ugly bark.

[B]

Yeah. And it can't be like a bonsai tree either.

[A]

No.

[B]

So I am going to get into this business.

[A]

Why don't you sell a Christmas tree in July? What do you mean, a summer tree?

[B]

I don't think those are a thing.

[A]

Fourth of July tree.

[B]

It can't, like, you want all year.

[A]

Round or like, one holiday all year round?

[B]

All year round. But I don't want it to take away from the magic of Christmas. So it needs to, like, still have the warmth of Christmas trees.

[A]

Yeah. With lights.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know. It's very difficult.

[A]

It's going to be tough because is like, let's say you do it and you put it in Your house. And it's like February, and someone comes over, they're gonna be like, yo, Dave didn't take his tree down yet.

[B]

We just posted a new video today. Yeah, the vibes are high. What? Dude, Jason did a. Jason did a bit that we've been planning for, like, two months, which was the. He dressed up as me and. I mean, do we tell people the price of that bin?

[A]

No, no, not after Pokemon.

[B]

So Jason got. We went to, like, the people.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Like, the guys. These guys worked. These guys were the head costume designers on all of the Marvel projects up until Avengers Endgame.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

And did everything from all the Superman's for.

[A]

With DC costume stuff, too.

[B]

Yeah, Costume and faces. So if you go to their. You go to their little warehouse, you see, like, Brad Pitt's picture or Brad Pitt's face.

[A]

They have molds.

[B]

Yeah, they have molds.

[A]

Basically, every big actor you can think of have done molds. And so you'll see, like, Nick Cage's mold. You'll see Brad Pitt's face in a mold.

[B]

And all the molds are like. Let's say Nicolas Cage is, you know, needs to be, like, beat up for a scene in the movie. So he comes in, they use his mold.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they mold, like, cuts on his nose to him or cuts out his mouth to him. And then they put it on him or they completely change his face.

[A]

Right. And we've done makeup stuff before, but this was different because they did a laser scan of your face.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We've got teeth and eyes and.

[B]

Yeah. So we came in, they lasered both Jason and I's face. Then they didn't. Then they did molds of our teeth, and then Jason got colored contacts.

[A]

We did molds of your teeth. That popped on my teeth.

[B]

Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, it was. It's a very fucking complicated process.

[A]

I went. I went two weeks before and did five hours of makeup just to test it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. For a minute. 30 in the vlog.

[B]

Yeah. It was. It was. It wasn't in there for two. But there's so many other funny bits I'm gonna put.

[A]

Why do we do that? Why do we work like that?

[B]

That's a great.

[A]

That's a good topic.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Why do we work like that? Anyone else.

[B]

You think I should put longer?

[A]

No, but I can't. I agree with you. You can't make it longer.

[B]

But.

[A]

But anyone else would, like, any other production entity would be like, okay, let's. Let's get the most out of this very expensive time. Consuming. Time consuming. It was. It was. That's six hours on the day for me to get in the makeup and the test. Five hours. Time is money. And. And you spent a lot of money on it. It's like, why? And then we're only seeing a minute 30.

[B]

I understand.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

But like, how could you possibly say that? Like, I'm not saying it. I'm not comparing our. My videos to a Hollywood movie.

[A]

But. But okay, if you're spending that much money.

[B]

Okay, so great. So let me make that comparison for you. In a movie, they spend a lot of money on three second scenes. Like, that's just how it is. So, like.

[A]

Yes, so true.

[B]

We. I'll put it in for eight minutes if it's warranted. For eight minutes? Yeah, but it just didn't make sense for any longer. But on the second channel, I'm going to upload a lot of it. I feel like there's a lot of funny stuff.

[A]

You are. When's that coming out?

[B]

I have to do next week.

[A]

Oh, you do? Okay, good.

[B]

Now he's making me.

[A]

Okay, great.

[B]

Cause I've promised a second channel video since I've started the vlogs.

[A]

Yeah, originally you were gonna do one every other week.

[B]

Well, what happens is when I post a vlog, I just get so fucking tired. And for the next.

[A]

Go get a trainer and go work out. You won't be so tired.

[B]

No, for the next five. For the next five days I'm just like, asleep. And now I have to go to. Tomorrow morning. I have to go to Vegas.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

For F1.

[A]

Excited.

[B]

What's gonna obliterate me? Oh, it's gonna be.

[A]

Well, why can't you go and why can't you have like comm. Vegas. Go to the spa, go go see the events, do your Snapchats, do your vlog, and then go home and then wake up.

[B]

Wake up at 8am Unfortunately, Vegas F.1 is like when a lot of our friends are there.

[A]

Okay. Like, so you're gonna be at Zook.

[B]

We just know a lot of people at. We never go to Zoo.

[A]

Oh, wherever you go.

[B]

No, no, no. We go. Go to excess.

[A]

Oh, xcore. My bad.

[B]

When? And now the mgm. Rooms available. Rooms available. Use code David. No, but yeah, we just have a lot of. A lot of our friends that work in Vegas. We have too. So not only like, everyone flies in for Vegas F1.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it's my first time I got invited to Vegas F1. This is going to be. This going to be a flex. This has never happened to me. Four different ways.

[A]

No way.

[B]

Comped four different people and paid, obviously.

[A]

How do you. How do you do it? How do you.

[B]

I don't know. I've never. This has never happened to me. I think it's because I'm posting again. So people are like, oh, he's actually doing something right.

[A]

So who did you. So four different people offered and one you're. Are you working for four different companies?

[B]

No, I'm only going with. I'm going with two. Two, two, two, two.

[A]

Okay. So you post. You'll have fun. You're going to drink?

[B]

Yeah, I'm going to drink.

[A]

You are going to drink?

[B]

I mean, it's part of my obligation. It's like. It's like if Ilya wanted to go, right. He wouldn't. I asked him, he said no. But, like, if Ilya was like, yeah, I'll come. But then I'm like, are you gonna have fun? And he's like, no, I'm gonna be in bed by nine. It's like, you can't do that. The race starts at 11 or 10 at night. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

It's a night race.

[A]

And how long does it last?

[B]

I think it's like an hour and a half.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Less. I don't know.

[A]

And are you at the finish line?

[B]

You're at the paddock, so. Yes. Yeah. You're at the finish.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

But then. And so you're at that race, everybody goes out and it's. You're looking at like 12:31.

[A]

Are you walking to different areas to, like, see the cars come by? Are you just staying in the paddock and watching on tv?

[B]

No. So you have. It just depends.

[A]

It doesn't make sense. You can't be as fast as a car.

[B]

No, no. Like, different people are on different turns.

[A]

In. In the paddock. Will you see, like, celebrities and stuff? Yeah, it's like super high level. I remember. I don't remember F1 ever being a thing when I was younger. No. Kind of new.

[B]

No, it's not new, but like that.

[A]

But like, doing it in Vegas is kind of new Vegas.

[B]

I think it's only been three years.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But the Netflix doc made it mainstream, right? Like, Elio was obsessed with it before.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then he's always trying to get me on. And then he showed me the Netflix doc and then I understood it a lot more. And then seeing it in person, you really understand it. Yeah, but, yeah, no, no, it's really. And each of those paddock passes, like, for one ticket yeah. To go to the Paddock is like 30, $40,000.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

One ticket. Wow. It's crazy. So brands shell out your ticket is.

[A]

Costing them 30, 40,000 just for you to get in there.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And Natalie, another 30, 40. What?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I don't understand.

[B]

It's like an insane amount of money. It's insane amount of money.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's the brand?

[B]

I was talking to this guy the other day, and he was the brand. Well, there's. There's a bunch, but, like, Canes will do. So Canes has the best setup inside the paddock.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So inside the paddock, you'll have. All the teams will have their own setup.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So Ferrari will have their Ferrari lounge.

[A]

Okay. Which sounds just great.

[B]

Sounds great. But it's not as cool as Cane's.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because Cane's is the only one that's like, fully decked out in Canes. They have disco.

[A]

Okay. They're fun.

[B]

Yeah. And the crew they bring is like, everyone's just like, drinking and having fun and mingling and, like, watching the race. A lot of people that will hang out in, like, the Ferrari paddock. It's like you're at a restaurant, you don't even know there's a race outside. People are watching it on the TVs. They're having dinner. So they. Everyone's so rich during these sports.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We're like, yeah, obviously, they're. Obviously, they're not going to watch the cars go by the entire time. This is their 30th F1. Right. So, like, I know, like, I'll walk there and I'll be like, why aren't you watching the race? But it's like a complete. They have a completely different perspective of the race.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, they're here because they're working.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Their son or their company or whatever is in the race.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So they're watching from the TVs or wherever they have to watch. It's interesting. But. But, yeah, but. Yes, but a lot of people do watch too. It's. It's such an interesting fucking sport. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But Canes is the best setup.

[A]

And then you'll go to the club and stay out till four.

[B]

Yeah. Unfortunately.

[A]

Why. Why don't you.

[B]

I was looking back at snaps last year when. When I went with Ilya, Natalie, and we were home at like 9 in the morning.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Does that give you anxiety? He's looking at old snaps. You're like, I was home at nine in the morning.

[B]

Super and that was like, when I could, like, still, like, what's your.

[A]

What's your energy level? Like, like, like, do you ever think to yourself, like, like, if it were me, if I. If I know, like, I have a big week next week, I'll be like, oh, no, I'm gonna. I'll go home at 1am and get like a decent night's sleep. Like, don't you want to?

[B]

No, my mindset is like, I'm going to F1.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm going to be sick after it. Like, that's just it.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because I just know I'm going.

[A]

Why would you do that to yourself?

[B]

Well, it's not to myself. It's.

[A]

Have a little foresight.

[B]

No, but like, but like, like I told you, these things are expensive for companies to throw on. So, like, I don't want to.

[A]

I know, but nothing's happening at excess at 2 in the morning.

[B]

That's kind of when. Yeah, that's when everyone goes out, really.

[A]

There's a big. There's a big deal happening. There's. There's big content. There's no deal.

[B]

But, like, you don't want to invite. Like, if I was Cane's. Right. Or if I was Dobrik's Pizza.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I invited people to F1. I would want people to join us all night.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I don't. I don't want people to come and just be fucking boring at the race and then go to bed.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, it's the full experience. It's Vegas F1. So, like. And I would never dare to be a drag at something. And like, you know, I want to give like, my best foot forward.

[A]

I see. I see.

[B]

No, you don't see.

[A]

I don't know. I'm just. I'm imagining those clubs in Vegas.

[B]

It's like, so, no, you don't really talk.

[A]

What's that? What are you working on?

[B]

No, no, no, it's not that. People don't say, what are you working on?

[A]

I saw your latest vlog. It was really great.

[B]

What? No, no, I don't think people talk like that. That much. Did.

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[B]

And also. Okay, so also, in the last vlog, what happened? We.

[A]

Oh, boob job.

[B]

We. I went to New Mexico.

[A]

People got to see some of the podcasts. Oh, you went to New Mexico? Yeah.

[B]

Oh, people saw some of the podcasts, which I loved in the vlog.

[A]

I think that's so cool.

[B]

That's gonna be interesting.

[A]

I'm sure. I'm sure it's going to, you know, that thing. It's gonna.

[B]

Some people up in their heads.

[A]

Yes. Yes. Did you ever listen to, like, ever listen to a radio show when you were younger or you only heard, like.

[B]

I mean, it's like reading a book and watching a movie.

[A]

No, it's a little. Yes, it is, but it's a little different. It's like when you. I used to listen to, like, an announcer. Right. On baseball.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For years. And then when you finally see him, you're like, that's what Tom Coleman looks like. You're like, nah, it blows your mind.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So to see us in here, your exact reaction. Yeah.

[B]

What you just described is what you said. No. Is why I don't want to do the video podcast.

[A]

Well, if we had a video podcast, we'd have a nice set.

[B]

But some people maybe don't imagine a nice set. Some people maybe think we're in a submarine or some people think we're on an airplane. Some people think we're like, cozy up by a fire. Like, I just like, like to keep.

[A]

Whatever people think, you know, to the imagination yeah.

[B]

If you guys think that Jason and I are stroking each other off right now and we're naked, you let that run wild. Like, that's what's happening.

[A]

You guys are the perverts. So I'm sure that's what you're thinking.

[B]

Oh, please. Fuck it. For the love of God, change that name. And then also we went to Albuquerque. I went to New Mexico to see Jonah film with James Franco for. This is. This is crazy. So Jonah's been working on this movie. He's had like X amount of actors in mind as a goal.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think James Franco was like at the top of his list. And he told us that he got James Franco. And I, like, couldn't really wrap my head around. I was like, what? You're going to be on screen with James Franco? The guy from Fucking Spider Man, Pineapple Express? Like the interview? Why him? I was so confused. And then I went there and I saw them acting together and I was like, oh, my God, this is actually. It's really happening. I was so shocked. Yeah, I was shocked. I was shocked. I was shocked. I was shocked. I was standing there and I mean, it looked like, you know, James Franco was being James Franco.

[A]

What did you think? Like, you know, you met Jonah in like a dingy apartment and just all like. How do you. How do you perceive all that? The time that went by and now he's doing that.

[B]

I don't know. Cuz it's. It's. He's still filming it. Right. Like, and I tell him that too.

[A]

He's done shooting.

[B]

I don't want to get his ego up above, you know. Not much to say yet.

[A]

I got you.

[B]

It's cool that he's there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. But I don't want to. I don't want to put. I don't want to count our chickens.

[A]

Together.

[B]

Like, I don't want to jinx him.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

I really. I really wish him the best and I really hope it's fucking so funny.

[A]

I think just from the script.

[B]

I haven't even read a single page of the script, so I have no idea. Yeah.

[A]

You think you get your money back?

[B]

My investment?

[A]

Yeah. They were showing you figures yesterday. It looks like you're getting your money back.

[B]

I'll believe it when I believe it when I see it, man. They told me I get my money back for those Pokemon cards.

[A]

Will you get a. If you do get your money back, will you buy a second box?

[B]

Where I'm going? No, I'm buying. Buying for four boxes.

[A]

Would you be Happy if they just gave your money back and no profit, of course. Yeah.

[B]

That's money lost to me. Right.

[A]

Like, I have gone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That'd be nice. Not because I don't think it's gonna do well, but, like, in my head.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, I'll take. If the movie breaks even, I. In the film industry, I consider that that's a win. Like, even big.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, huge. Hollywood movies don't break even.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, if you break even, you fucking did it.

[A]

Did you see, a lot of the movies are not. People aren't going to movies.

[B]

Why?

[A]

It's a lot of. It's like, it feels like they're making a lot of movies and they. The movies are not making their money back at all.

[B]

There have been a lot more movies.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And good ones are coming, too.

[B]

I just don't think you go to the theater unless it's a fucking banger.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you don't. Like.

[A]

I wonder that. Like, I wonder that how people think about that.

[B]

It's just.

[A]

You just. Why would you. Right.

[B]

It's what they've also done that has fucked the movie theaters. Is the turnover rate now from movies to streaming is almost like two weeks.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It's like there's. There used to be a moment where I had to think about it and I had to be like, well, I kind of want to see this now. Or do I wait four months for when it's available somewhere else? Or it used to be like eight months for, like, DVD or something. But, like, now it's like, now it's like, I'm like, there'll still be movies in the theater, and there'll be a section on prime that'll say theater at home. So it's like, what's the same fucking movies that are playing in theater? Why the fuck would I see it in theaters? Yeah. Unless it's a marvel. Unless it's an event. Right.

[A]

I watched Good Fortune the other night. Aziz Ansari and Seth Rogen and Keanu. Great movie. And Naveen and I were like, oh, let's go see it in the theater.

[B]

No one was there.

[A]

No. Naveen was like, it's on streaming. It was in both. And we were like, oh, we'll just watch it here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you know why there's no more comedies anymore? Judd Apatow explained it.

[B]

No, I'd love to hear this.

[A]

He said that when he was doing his comedies or when there was a lot of comedies, the DVD market was so amazing that you could like, let's Say a movie cost $40 million. You make 20 at the box office and then you make like 40, 60 in DVDs.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. And then once that went away, people were like, I'm not going to greenlight any comedies. Like, why would I fucking do that? They don't sell internationally. We went to a.

[B]

Would comedy sell more as DVDs as opposed to action?

[A]

Yeah, because people. People wanted it. Like, people would want Wedding Crashers or whatever. We went to a film financing thing the other night and we were talking to people that, like, finance movies, and they were just like. Yeah, just action and horror.

[B]

Really.

[A]

Action and horror. That's the only.

[B]

Why are you saying horror so weird. Horror.

[A]

Horror. Horror. How do you say it? Horror.

[B]

Are you horror? You said it like you're from Boston.

[A]

It's a tough word.

[B]

Say it.

[A]

Well, because in Boston you would say horror.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

How do you say it?

[B]

Horror.

[A]

Horror.

[B]

He's like, horror. Horror.

[A]

Horror.

[B]

But, like, just like, you trip and you have to finish your sentences. Now he's horror.

[A]

They say that horror movies are cheap and action movies translate everywhere. Yeah.

[B]

What I do think is interesting that I'm surprised hasn't been tapped more into, or maybe it is, and maybe it's just not my niche. But how come there's not? Because horror movies, I think, are the easiest to make.

[A]

Yes. Yes.

[B]

Like, if you think about it.

[A]

Yeah. If you're, like, really creative and inventive. Like, did you ever see Blair Witch?

[B]

No, but I mean, Blair, which was made. I don't watch any horror movies.

[A]

I don't either. But Blair, which was made with, like a DV cam, like a. Literally, like a homemade.

[B]

Right, Right.

[A]

And they made it for no money and it made. You know.

[B]

That's why I'm shocked to see more YouTubers doing horror. Yeah, they are like, Sam and Colby really lean into it in, like, their own, like, YouTuber.

[A]

I'm surprised they haven't made a horror movie.

[B]

I'm sure they're working on something, right? Yeah, but like. Yeah, that is kind of like an interesting thing.

[A]

It kind of. Yeah, it kind of would break.

[B]

I think comedy's just dead because of just social media.

[A]

Why? Because you just get so much comedy.

[B]

So, so much. It's like. It's impossible. It's impossible. Why would I watch anybody's fucking YouTube video when there's a random guy who just lit his foot on fire and is riding a humpback whale?

[A]

It's not like watching a story. Bro. Jokes.

[B]

And bro, you know what? I've been you know what?

[A]

I've been my favorite.

[B]

You know, I've been using.

[A]

What?

[B]

This is so fucked up.

[A]

What?

[B]

Sora.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I've been, like, going on it, like, for entertainment, because it's funny.

[A]

What do you watch on there?

[B]

No, I just scroll and.

[A]

What's happening?

[B]

AI videos.

[A]

Tell me, tell me, tell me.

[B]

Well, what's happening is. You have no idea what's happening.

[A]

Just give me a little taste.

[B]

You can never.

[A]

It's like Martin Luther King. Oh, the one. The one. So our video I saw was Helen Keller on the top rope in wwe.

[B]

Yeah. It's amazing.

[A]

It's.

[B]

But it's kind of. It's kind of like, past that. Yeah.

[A]

Better than that. People are like. They're cutting together scenes and making longer soras. Right.

[B]

And why I like it. It's actually the most. I felt inspired. It's going to sound crazy that I'm really. That I'm saying this about AI, but I feel inspired from it because the. The ideas are so obtuse, weird, bizarre, like, out there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That they. They match what I would want to do in a vlog. So it'd be, like, something really bizarre. It'd be like Bigfoot living in the White House.

[A]

Yeah, right, right.

[B]

That's really funny.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I should do that with Jay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it matches more of, like, the vlog style. So, like, I go. I'll go to Sora and I' I'll be like, oh, we could actually get this done. Like, I could put Jason in makeup for six hours. We can have Bigfoot meet David or whatever. Whatever. Not that exactly, but, like.

[A]

Yeah, there's people doing, like, creative stuff on there.

[B]

I get it and I think it.

[A]

And how's it look?

[B]

I feel like a lot of creative people are lazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I feel like that allows a lot of, like, fucking lazy people to get their creative thoughts out there.

[A]

Where do you stand on, like, seeing something and then redoing it?

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

Like, sometimes. Sometimes I'll see something and I'll be like, oh, that's a great idea. They killed it. And then I'd be like. I would feel weird redoing it sometimes.

[B]

Right. Say it's. I have to say I. If it's so, like. So, like, Cole Hirsch made a funny joke.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

On his Instagram. He's. He just. He does skits. He's a comedian. He's very funny. And it was so funny. I was like, let's do it on my vlog. So I called him over. I haven't posted this yet, but I called him over. I was like, can we do that? And he's like, 100%. Let's go do it on your vlog. So we just redid it almost verbatim.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Word for word.

[A]

Yeah. But yet you're using the guy. Yeah, the guy.

[B]

Well, that's how I feel about it. I feel like if you're. If you have the original people in it, you're fine.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But like. Like, back to my Bigfoot thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I wouldn't like, Bigfoot in the White House is a premise that I don't feel like I've stolen.

[A]

Right. Or you would maybe not do Bigfoot in the White House. You do Bigfoot on Mars or something.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Right. But kind of it does inspire you.

[B]

Would be different.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, I would never take a line.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or, like, take the main joke. But it just, like the premise in the scenario. Like, I think that's what the vlog like, is. Like, that's the toughest part of the vlog. It's just like, where do you put us? Like, give us a location, and then it's easier to make funny stuff.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But a lot of times it's like we're just sitting at the house, and we're like, we've been at. We've shot 10 things at the house. We got to leave.

[A]

Well, that's why I like the garage sale idea.

[B]

I do like garage sale, but camping's great.

[A]

Garage sale. Any.

[B]

If we're gonna do garage sale, I really want to do, like, where we're selling a bunch of shitty things.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And every time someone buys something, it's great. There's like a dollar. There's like a thousand dollars at the bottom of the tissue box.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Or at the bottom of the vase. And every product is worth, like, maybe there's one product that's worth, like, 10,000, one that's worth, like, $50,000. Like, that's really fun.

[A]

That's really fun.

[B]

Like, maybe there's, like, a shitty car.

[A]

Key and you don't tell John, and John's like, we're selling out like crazy, but all the people know.

[B]

That's really funny. Yeah. And look, we lose, like, $200,000 on the garage. Like, I think that's funny. Or like, you have, like, you're selling a keychain. Yeah. It's like, you know, like a fishing keychain or whatever, but it's attached to an actual key for a car.

[A]

Oh, that's really good.

[B]

I think that's really fun.

[A]

That's really good.

[B]

We just have to set it up properly. And it's like all day of just sitting around waiting for people to come.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And I don't love, like, I don't love filming random people. I don't know why I just like, don't like it. Why so many people do it now. Like, I see now really why.

[A]

It's like I just like feel bad.

[B]

For the people of la.

[A]

Why you're, you're, you're inviting people in, into your driveway.

[B]

Like when you're in the Midwest or when we're anywhere else, it's really easy to film in public with people because people are like more open to it. But when you're here, it's just like people are surrounded by it so much.

[A]

Whereas people get annoyed.

[B]

Yeah. It's like, leave me alone, please. I'm at a fucking garage sale. Like, that's just what I. That's just like what stresses me out. Like, people are tiktoking always. People are making their own vlogs, People are working on film sets. Like they just want to be people.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So I just like, hate to disrupt that, but I don't know, there's. I'm sure there's a way to be like, we're filming a show here.

[A]

When I think about when I was a kid and to be like, like, wow, I'd love to make movies, but it's like, it's impossible. Like, it's so expensive to buy like a, you know, a 35 millimeter camera or whatever. And now it's just like, you can just fucking do anything. It's so fucking cool.

[B]

Yeah. That is like, you don't have to have your camera.

[A]

No kid can just go. Did you know on the new iPhone you can vlog vertically?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Dude, that's crazy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know that.

[B]

Yeah. No, it's wild.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Well, I just think back to like, my dad was a photographer. Is a photographer, and he would have like two or three DSLRs, like in this cabinet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it was like I would, I wouldn't even dare to touch him. Yeah. Like, I'd be like, that's like so above anything. I know. Do you know? I mean, but like now our iPhone shoot the quality that his fucking. His cameras were shooting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And what's gonna happen in 10 years? Like, I can't wait till I don't have to have a vlog camera in my hand and I could just film it on my phone, you think?

[A]

Well, what about Sound.

[B]

Well, I think they'll figure out sound by then too.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Or, you know, or I'm hoping that there'll be a day where Apple has, like, customizable packages that'll be more like, what? Like this is a phone for the video creator. Because I think. I think we're getting close to, like, where there's enough video creators where Apple can start tailoring. There's so many creators and people that make content for their businesses or whatever on their phones that I feel like a creator phone. Yeah. We're not too far from like. Yeah, like, that's where the focus is going on.

[A]

Did you know that Apple is opening up the App Store to everybody? So it's this thing called mini apps. And so it used to be you'd make an app, it'd be really hard to get it approved and blah, blah, blah. And Apple would take 70%. Yes.

[B]

Ilya was telling me about this. Yeah.

[A]

And now you get like. I think it's like more like two thirds or something.

[B]

Oh, that's crazy.

[A]

Or like 80% or something like that.

[B]

So you can just make an app, put it on there.

[A]

Yeah. And you can make apps now through AI and they can be done in like, five minutes.

[B]

Fucking ridiculous.

[A]

It's awesome.

[B]

Poor dude. I feel so bad for actually. I don't know, I say I feel bad for the people that went to, like, school for, like, digital art or something, but, like, I don't know, I feel like they're gonna figure it out.

[A]

Well, there's. There's something to have.

[B]

I just don't believe that anything could possibly actually take over, like a creative, like, task. Like, I think a true creative person that got into. Because I think, like, my sister.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is like, pretty against, like, AI.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She's a creative. But I just think, like, if you're. If you're a creative, I think you'll find your way around it. I think you'll find it useful where it doesn't feel like it's actually like intervening with what you're doing. But I'm also talking, like, pretty prematurely because AI is fairly new, so God knows how intense it's going to get.

[A]

Did you know they're saying that there's. AI is going to need like $2 trillion or something to just keep it running. Yeah.

[B]

What do you think would happen if AI just shut down? The world will go crazy, bro. Ilya talks to that thing more than he talks to any of us combined. He's. He's not answering emails. I just realized he just talks to AI.

[A]

What's he say?

[B]

He's just asking things about. He doesn't ask. Like, it's not like asking random questions about the earth, but it's very specific to.

[A]

That's your thought? I wasn't thinking that. But that's funny.

[B]

I don't know. It's just like, I don't even know what it is because he's. How tall are giraffes?

[A]

What is the biggest whale ever seen? What does he say?

[B]

He definitely. He uses it for work. I don't know. He just says, fucking a bunch of work lingo. I told him once that he had a big ego. Yeah. And he, like, five days later, he sent me back this thing where he asked his AI, hey, do I have a big ego? And his AI was like, well, it's actually a good thing that you're recognizing it from our messages. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Bl. So like, it kind of was like, yeah, you do. Oh, here it is. Here it is. This, this. I have the message. I have a pretty big ego problem. How do I help myself fix it? And then it responded. That's a strong bit of self awareness already. Ilya, most people with ego problems never admit it. Let's break this down in a way that's actually actionable, not just philosophical fluff.

[A]

I love how AI is always answers positively, always.

[B]

And then the first bullet point is understand what ego really is. It's not confidence. It's the fragile shell that protects insecurity. It's the part of you that needs to be right. Instead of learning, it needs to win instead of growing. It seeks validation instead of truth. Pretty damn good.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

So the first mind shifts. So the first mindset shift is every time your ego flares up. It's actually a signal of insecurity. That's the root. Ilya texted me the screenshot of it. It's saying, I'm working on it. I said, hell, yeah. But, yeah. All right, guys, well, that's all the time we have for this pod. Thank you guys for listening.

[A]

Go watch David's vlog. It's a really good one.

[B]

I have to go to the dentist. Half of my tooth fell off.

[A]

Yeah, what happened?

[B]

My crown fell off while I was just fucking eating. I was having wings and it just. And I bit through and I thought I bit a bone, but it was my fucking tooth.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

So, yeah, I think I have to chill on the Diet Cokes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right.

[A]

All right, see you later.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

Bye.

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