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California Schemin’: Swalwell’s Political Dreams Go Down in Flames | Episode 266
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Eric Swalwell SUSPENDS his campaign for California governor; Iran refuses to back off its nuclear ambitions after high-stakes negotiations; Trump announces the U.S. Navy will begin blockading the Strait of Hormuz; former Assistant Attorney General and Trump deputy assistant Theo Wold joins the show!
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Hey, everybody. Welcome to events on a Monday. It is so great to be back with you after two days off. Thank you very much for giving me the chance to do that. We closed out my daughter's spring break week with a trip to New York City, which was pretty great, actually. I had a fantastic time visiting New York despite the fact that a communist is trying to run it into the ground. More on that in just a second. We got a huge show coming up. I need to talk to you about two gigantic issues. Maybe three. Maybe three. Let's do three today. One of them is Eric Swalwell. Just got shift by the entire left. The establishment turned on him. They knew that this guy was a scumbag. They knew all about this record and yet they decided to just deploy it just now because he's in the way of Democrat Party power. That's how these things work. They took out Eric Swalwa. I've got the details on all of that breaking news overnight. I've got the details this morning. And then we need to talk about the developments in Iran over the weekend as JD Vance goes, he's got 20 hours of negotiations with with the Iranians and he leaves. And he says, you know what? No deal. I'm heading out of here. Heads out of Islamabad. The president of the United States weighing in on all of this. We have that coming up as well. And then joining us today on the program, we'll have a guy who worked for President Trump. Theo Wald is going to be here. We're going to talk to him about some of these Republicans in Congress who are pushing for an amnesty. The hell is going on? It's all ahead on this edition of Vince. It is so great to be back with you. Hello, Chad. Hello, rumble.com. vince, Dr. Edwards says I'm glad you're backstage. Safely from New York City. It was mostly safe. It was mostly safe. We saw a lot of, a lot of police activity, though. Well, we'll get to all of it coming up on the program. 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I just feel great. It's made a meaningful difference in my life. I think it'll help you too. Fatty 15 is on a mission to optimize your C15 levels to help support your long term health and wellness, especially as you age. You can get an additional 15 off of their 90 day subscription starter kit. Just go to fatty15.com Vince use the code Vince at checkout. These statements have not been evaluated by the fda. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. It was a good trip to New York actually. I, we really enjoyed it. It was, it was nice though. My, my daughter, we took her to New York when she was a baby so she, it wasn't the age of cognition yet. So this is our first time back in many years. We go back together and we had such a good time. Now first, let me just, let me tell you, if you haven't been there in a while, I mean even back in the old days, it's an expensive city. It costs a lot of money to do anything worth doing in the city, even just to get food and stuff. It's just, it's a very pricey experience. But we went and you know, we hit a lot of the tourist sites. You know how when you go visit a city you visit all the tourist attractions but if you live in the city, you never visit those attractions. Yeah, we did it all. We did the, you know, the Empire State Building, we went, we did the carriage ride with the horse in, in Central park which was awesome. Actually. It was a really, really beautiful weather for us to do that. And, and we saw the 911 memorial chat. Have you been to the 911 memorial? Have you, have you seen the 911 memorial? It is unbelievably well done. It is just remarkable. You enter this 911 Memorial center and then you go downstairs underground and you can see the foundation of, I believe it's the north tower. You can see what's left of it. Just these slabs of concrete that are still underground, still there, preserved. And you can be there and see it up close and in person it is for the most part what you would hope it would be. It's a solemn experience. I think mostly the crowds are very respectful. I saw some international visitors. I don't think that appreciated how heavy that whole experience was. But man, I'll tell you what, just walking up on the 911 memorial and seeing those gigantic fountains that they've built for both the north and the south towers where the water just pours down to that gaping hole into the earth, I, I felt deeply affected by it, deeply affected by it seeing that. And I, if you do one thing in New York, if you haven't been to New York City in a while or if you have never been there, I highly recommend this, go to the 911 memorial. Our original plan was to see the memorial and then to go up into the new, the new Trade Center Tower, One World Trade center and which is, remember it's like 1776ft high. It's, it's massive. We skipped it. I, I was in the Empire State Building. I kind of got the, the, you know, the bird's eye view of the city thing. I didn't need to do that again. Once we were done with the 911 memorial I was like, you know what, that's enough. I think that's enough. I don't need to, to go see the new tower right now. But it was just so, it was such a heavy experience and, and so well worth it to do. And it was a, such a reminder of course of what happened on September 11th. You're walking through each of the minute by minute times inside. They kind of have like an, they have a bunch of exhibits, but then there's an interior exhibit where you go in and they say no more, no photos, no videos in here. Because what you're about to see is all the heaviest moments of the day is the television broadcasts and the radio calls and the crushed fire trucks and ambulances and kind of, you know, burned out remnants of 9 11. Boy, I can't lie at all. I was very emotional going through there and I just want to, I just appreciate everybody who works there and who are keeping that legacy that, that important story alive. And, and I kept looking around and thinking, oh my gosh, so many of the people who are in the room weren't even born yet like, or if they were, they just not, not at a level where they could even think about what was happening. And so as history goes on, as is always true, there are going to be fewer and fewer people who are capable of telling that story. So if you have young ones in your life, people who are younger than that weren't, weren't even born at 9, 11, like I do. Be their tour guide. Take them through it and then remind them as you go through. This is what you were thinking. This is what was happening. Remember telling my daughter, I was like, we felt like the whole country was under attack. You saw those planes go hit the towers. You saw a plane hit a Pentagon, the plane go down in Pennsylvania. And you started thinking, where else are planes going to hit? You thought every, I think every community in America was on guard for. It's everywhere. It's, it's, it was incredible experience. So anyway, that, that there was that. I'm getting some questions in the chat. Yes, I had my bagels. I got, I got, I went twice. We got bagels. It was great. Got some New York pizza. We did everything you would expect in New York. It was, it was wonderful. Anyway, thank you, thank you to the chat and thank you to Haley Caronia for filling in for me on Thursday, looking after the show. Appreciate her. She, she is great. And she's got a great program herself. So I appreciate her doing double duty on Thursday, taking over the show. All right, let's get into some of the news that just broke overnight. I've got to talk to you about Eric Swalwell and I, look, it couldn't happen to a worse guy. I mean, Eric Swalwell definitely deserves all of this. But isn't it interesting, isn't it interesting that Eric Swalwell was just felled by a sex scandal that the entire left knew about but refused to admit in public until they needed to get rid of Eric Swalwell? Let me just take you through the timeline so you can understand why this is happening, because you may be like, why is, why are they all turning on Eric Swalwell? Hasn't he been the most ridiculously loyal lieutenant to their insane ambitions to hurt Trump at every turn? The answer is yes. But the problem is his personal political ambitions ran up against the Democrat Party's ability to maintain a stranglehold on power. And when that happens, you're going to be destroyed right under the bus wheels. Eric Swalwell went in California. Right now. There is a governor's race going on. You may know. In fact, this governor's race does not have any clear front runner among the Democrats and among the Republicans. The two, both of those guys are leading the field. Chad Lo Bianco and Steve Hilton are currently the front runners. Based on all available polling in the California governor's race. Now, in any other state in the union, this wouldn't matter as much in terms of the Democrats and their power ambitions, because every other, most other states have regular primary systems where the Republicans get to choose their candidate, the Democrats get to choose their candidate, and those two candidates square off on election day during the general election in November. Not true in California. California has a jungle primary system, which means that all of the candidates of every party all run together in the primary. You're thinking, probably, Vince, that's insane. Yes, it's totally insane. But it's the way California works. That's the way they've set up this system. And so come June 2, which is the primary date, the two, the two winners, the top two finishers in the primary, go on to the general election. Now you can see what the problem is right now. There's two Republicans who are the front runners. I warned you about this months ago. There are two Republicans who are the front runners. Which means if the jungle primary ends on June 2nd and the two Republicans are the front runners, they're the only two candidates on the ballot. There won't even be a Democrat on the ballot in November. And Democrats are freaking the out. They're freaking out. They don't know what to do other than to start stabbing their own people to death, which is what they just did to Eric Swalwell. Eric Swalwell has a massive pervert file that the left has been assembling on him for some time now. If you've ever looked at Eric Swabwe, you're like, how are you so compliant and ridiculous? How is it that you're always spreading the dumbest possible left wing conspiracies? Can't you think for yourself at all? Well, just realize the left was sitting on a blackmail file that kept him in line. So of course he said the dumbest possible thing at every turn. He wanted to stay in their good graces so that they wouldn't take him out. But suddenly he was standing in the way. So now he's been destroyed. And so here's how this happened. On Friday, the San Francisco Chronicle ran a piece alleging that Eric Swalwell had raped one of his own employees. This is heavy stuff. Here is what they said. An ex staffer says Eric Swalwell, candidate for California governor, sexually assaulted her. Here's the original piece, and in it they say a woman who worked for Eric Swalwell, a leading candidate for California governor, said she had sexual encounters with him while he was her boss and alleged he twice sexually assaulted her when she was too intoxicated to consent. That's another way of saying he raped her. Swalwell did not respond to any of the former staffers specific allegations made in a series of interviews with the Chronicle, and then he provided a statement on Friday saying that the allegations are false. Let me get to the allegation by the woman. The woman said Swalwell began pursuing her within weeks after she was hired at age 21 to work in the Democrats district office in Castro Valley. In 2019, Swalwell messaged her on Snapchat. Snapchat? He's an adult man. Why is he on Snapchat? He sent her images of his genitals and sought nude pictures of her in return. She said Swalwell, who is married and 17 years her senior at age 45, tried to kiss her in her car when she drove him home from a donor meeting one night, driving him to another event weeks later. She said Swalwell pulled out his penis in the car and asked her to perform oral sex on him. She said she did so in a parking lot. She did so in a parking lot in September of 2019. The woman said Swalwell invited her out for drinks and she became so severely intoxicated she doesn't remember the rest of the night. She said she woke up naked in Swalwell's hotel bed and could feel the effect of vaginal intercourse. She said Swalwell distanced himself from her afterward and the relationship faded. Five years later, she attended an April 2024 charity gala where Swalwell was honored. The woman, who was no longer working for him, said they met for drinks afterward, during which she became so inebriated that she remembers only snippets of the night, including pushing Swalwell away and telling him no, while he allegedly forced himself on her. The woman texted a friend three days later that she was, quote, sexually assaulted by Swalwell. She wrote in a series of messages, all reviewed by the Chronicle, that she had, quote, blacked out, but woke up once during it and even told him to stop at one point. Quote this happened one other time when I was working with him, but I convinced myself I was an equal party in it, even though same pattern. I blacked out and he had sex with me, she wrote, referring to the 2019 incident. So what she's describing is rape. She's describing his rape now. Did they have a consensual relationship at any point during this? Yes. She she agreed to perform a sexual act on him in a car at his request, but again, she's working for him. And this guy's a perv on Snapchat, sending images of his junk to women. And she's not the only one. Suddenly we get a whole bunch of other women who start coming out of the woodwork, as promised. Remember I told you that the left was working this up in the form of a CNN report. This just within, within hours of the Chronicle report coming out. They say four women described sexual misconduct by Eric Swalwell, including a former staffer says he raped her. And they go on here and they start laying out woman after woman who is saying that this guy is. Is a perv. He's a perv and he's constantly going after them and. And they say sexually assaulting them. CNN found corroboration for key elements of each of the women's claims, including the former staffer who said she was sexually assaulted. Two family members and a friend said in interviews with CNN that she told them about the alleged 2024 assault in the following days. And CNN also reviewed messages she sent two friends describing her allegations at the same time. Quote, I was sexually assaulted on Thursday by Eric, she wrote to one of her friends. The woman also shared medical records related to her receiving STD and pregnancy testing after the assault. For the woman who connected online with Swalwell over Democrat politics, A family member and two friends confirmed she told them last year about the incident where she ended up intoxicated in his hotel room. CNN also reviewed messages between her and Swalwell, including a photo he sent her that matches footage of him during a CNN interview in her city on the night they met in person. So CNN literally has corroborating evidence because he appeared on their network wearing the same outfit that she had in a photo of him from that date in that city. The woman described a similar pattern of events. Swalwell, who is married and has three children, showed close interest in their lives when they were in their 20s and finding their footing professionally, making them feel special and even starstruck. Then they said he would send them increasingly sexual messages. Many said they reciprocated and engaged with him, in part because of his position of power. In some cases, those inappropriate exchanges escalated to alleged unwanted physical touch or sexual assault, often tied to episodes of heavy drinking. Yeah, and then there's the video. That's right. This. This weekend video has emerged from two accounts, one from Martin Shkreli and the other from Jack Pacific, of Eric Swalwell engaged in hanky panky with what is allegedly, they say, a sex worker. That's another Word for a prostitute in a room with another scantily dressed woman and a man on the bed with them as well at the same time. Here's the viral video that's going around the Internet right now. Yep, there he is kissing on this woman. He's married. Remember? That's creepy. And then we have a second video of him grabbing at her, pulling her down. And then some dude in black Nikes. There's rampant speculation who the second dude is. There's Eric Swalwell again. Married man, father of three, wants to be the governor of California, wanted to be president of the United States. All of this suddenly being leaked by the left to destroy him, to take him out. Swalwell is denying assault. Swalwell is denying assault. He says, I didn't assault anybody, but he admits that he did cheat on his wife a lot. Here's Eric Swalwell in a video he just released this weekend. Watch.
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A lot has been said about me today through anonymous allegations, and I thought it was important that you see and hear from me directly. These allegations of sexual assault are flat false. They are absolutely false. They did not happen. They have never happened. And I will fight them with everything that I have. They also come on the eve of an election where I have been the frontrunner candidate for governor in California. I do not suggest to you in any way that I am perfect or that I am a saint. I have certainly made mistakes in judgment in my past, but those mistakes are between me and my wife. And to her, I apologize deeply for putting her in this position. I also apologize to you if in any way you have doubted your support for me. But I think you know who I am. For over 20 years, I have served the public as a city councilman, as a member of Congress, and as a prosecutor who went to court on behalf of victims, particularly on behalf of sexual assault victims. That's who I am and have always been. This weekend, I'm going to spend time with my family and friends, and I appreciate those who have reached out to me to show support. And I look forward to updating you very soon.
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Yeah. Who told that guy to wear a silky porn shirt while he filmed his video about how he didn't sexually assault women? Who's giving him sartorial advice on how to do that video? So there's Eric Swalwell saying, no, I didn't sexually assault anybody, but I definitely cheated on my wife a bunch. It turns out Fang Fang wasn't the first and she certainly wasn't the last. And. And coming up, I want to share with you just how quickly the left moved on this guy. So in addition to releasing all this information, all of the top Democrats in the party immediately called for him to get out of the race. And now they may be moving even more swiftly to kick him out of Congress. Got the details on all of that coming up. Also, Theo Waldo will be joining us here in a few minutes. We'll talk to him about what's going on in Congress as some Republicans think now's a good time to push amnesty psychos. We'll talk to Theo about that in moments. 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In a joint statement that they released, they said all perpetrators of sexual assault and harassment must be held accountable, they declared. Meanwhile, Adam Schiff retracted his endorsement of Swalwell and urged him to end his campaign. Swalwell's House colleagues in California, Jimmy Gomez, Adam Gray, who served as campaign co chairs, they called on him to leave the race as well. And then there were the staffers, the oh so many staffers. I'm talking a lot of people who all knew that Eric Swalwell was a scumbag. But they waited until they could advance their own party's power ambitions to tell the rest of the world about it. The San Francisco Chronicle with the piece 55 of Eric Swalwell's former staffers called on him to resign. 55 of them. More than 50 former staffers of Representative Eric Swalwell called on him to resign and suspend his campaign for governor Sunday in response to the sexual assault allegations. The letter, signed by 55 employees of the Castro Valley Democrat, is the latest in a wave of calls for the congressman to resign in the wake of the allegations from a former staffer who said he sexually assaulted her twice. The former staffers writing the allegations reported by the San Francisco Chronicle on CNN are serious, credible and demand accountability. We stand unequivocally with our colleague who showed extraordinary courage in coming forward to share her truth. We believe her. You believe her? Well, what leads you to believe her? Did you identify these moral failings in the guy that you were working for, all 55 of you, on a routine basis and just decided never to tell anybody about it up until the moment that your party called upon you to advance their own ambitions? This is all about the governor's race. This is all about the governor's race. And they've mobilized the usual suspects. Fat Alvin Bragg is involved to try and take down Eric Swalwell. Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan district Attorney, is investigating Eric Swalwell. Now this all happened this weekend. Swalwell, under investigation by Fat Alvin Bragg. That's not the headline in Politico, but that is the takeaway. The Manhattan Manhattan district Attorney's office is investigating Eric Swalwell over allegations he sexually assaulted a former staffer in a New York City hotel room in April of 2024. Swalwell, who had been gaining momentum in the race for California governor in November, has seen his political profile come crashing down. And then they go on to say that they're urging survivors and anyone with knowledge of these allegations to contact the Special Victims Division. They have specially trained prosecutors on the case. Investigators, counselors are well equipped to help you on a trauma, informed, survivor centered matter. So Fat Alvin Bragg, how far away from Letitia James getting involved in all of this? Probably not. It's probably not going to happen anymore now that they've got him out of the race. But one more investigation for you that Eric Swalwell is under. This one's from the feds. The feds say that Eric Swalwell has been paying an illegal alien as a live in nanny for years now. The feds are investigating allegations as we speak that Eric Swalwell paid an illegal Brazilian live in nanny under the table with campaign funds. With campaign funds. The guy, what a Democrat? Democrat. Representative Eric Swalwell, frontrunner, has been accused of violating immigration and employment law to keep his illegal live in Brazilian nanny in the country, according to a pair of recently filed complaints. Basically, he brings her in as an as on an au pair visa. The visa expires, he keeps paying her and keeps taking campaign funds to do it. And she's there she is in a bikini, constantly hanging out with the family. New York Post with a piece. So there she is with the kids, you know, going out, trick or treating. So they've been. God, he's such an idiot. He really is. He's such an idiot. Are you serious? You're taking pictures of your junk and sending them to women on Snapchat. That alone is a reason you shouldn't be in elective office. Like, dude, control yourself. If he succumbs to those temptations in his personal life that easily, then in what world should he be in charge of any important decision making for the rest of us? So now he's out of the race. Sunday night, he dropped out of the race. He posted at X last night the following. Here's the announcement from Swalwell. He says, I'm suspending my campaign for governor. To my family, staff, friends and supporters, I'm deeply sorry for mistakes and judgment I've made in my past. I will fight the serious false allegations that have been made. But that's my fight, not a campaign's. So Swalwell is out now, who does that leave us with? If you're in California, and certainly California has an impact on the rest of the country. Unfortunately, with Democrats running into the ground, who does that leave us with? Crazy Katie Porter. Crazy Katie Porter is now one of the leading contenders.
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Are you ready?
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Two, three. Yeah, that's right. Fuck. Trump. Psycho. Crazy Katie. A woman so psychotic she dumped a boiling pot of mashed potatoes on her husband's head and then punched him when he disagreed with the way that they were raising their children. She's a psycho. She's a total psycho. And you think the file on Eric Swalwell is deep? Katie Porter, man, she's an animal. She's a monster. Now will they take her out as well? I guess it depends if Chad Lo Bianco and Steve Hilton continue to dominate in the polls. Just get ready for another one of these Democrats to be destroyed by the left machine. We'll keep our eyes on it.
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Coming up, I want to talk about what's happening on the right right now. There's a not, not small. If you've got 20 Republicans pushing it, it's not small, a push for amnesty among some of these idiot Republicans. We're going to explore this next with one of the president's former guys, Theo Walt. He'll, he'll get into the details of what this is all about, why these guys are doing this, and what he makes of it all. Ahead on this edition, events. I want to thank two of our great sponsors, Shopify. Shopify is wonderful. Picture this. You're online shopping. Suddenly you see the thing you've been wanting forever. You add it to your cart, then you hit checkout. And that's when reality hits you. You have no idea what your login is for this website and your wallet. It's nowhere near you. But then you spot it. There's that beautiful purple pay button that has all of your information saved, making checking out as simple as a tap of your screen. That magic button comes from Shopify. It's the commerce platform that's helping to power millions of businesses worldwide. 10% of all US E commerce. Actually, you can. Shopify helps give brands everything that they need. Hundreds of beautiful online store templates, powerful AI tools that write product descriptions and enhance photos, and easy to run email and social campaigns to reach customers wherever they are. And behind it all, world class expertise in inventory, shipping, analytics returns, you name it. See fewer carts abandoned and more sales go through with Shopify and their shop pay button. Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify.com Vince go to shopify.com Vince that's shopify.com Vince. Thank you. Also to Fast Growing Trees. I love my fast growing trees. They're beautiful. They're some of the healthiest trees in my whole yard. Did you know that Fast Growing Trees is America's largest and most trusted online nursery with thousands of trees and plants and over 2 million happy customers. They've got all the plants your yard or home needs, including fruit trees, privacy trees, flowering trees, shrubs, houseplants, all grown with care and guaranteed to arrive healthy. Just click, order, grow and get healthy, thriving plants delivered to your door. My, my, my red bud is beautiful. Is just wrapping up its bloom. It is looking gorgeous. It's growing perfectly and when it arrived in my house, it arrived perfectly packaged, ready to plant. We got that thing in the ground in a second. And now it's just absolutely wonderful. Now I can't wait for each successive year to see how that tree grows. Right now they've got great deals on spring planting essentials up to half off on select plants. Listeners to this show get 20% off your first purchase when using the code Vince at checkout. That's an additional 20% off. Better plants, better growing, fast growing trees.com use the code Vince at checkout. Fast growing trees.com promo code Vince. Now's the perfect time to plan. Let's grow together. Use Vince to save today. Offer is valid for a limited time. Terms and conditions apply. See fast growing trees.com for details. Right now, Republicans, some Republicans in Congress have joined forces with Democrats to push something they're calling the Dignity Dodd act, which is a piece of legislation that has a title in a different language designed to push amnesty. For more on this, I want to bring in Theo Wald. Now, he's a former assistant attorney general and former White House deputy assistant for domestic policy under President Trump. You can find him on X at Real Theo Wall. That's where I follow him. Hello, Theo. Great to have you on the show today, sir.
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Hey, man, it's good to be with you, Vince. Thanks for having me.
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Of course. So the Digni Dodd act, which is just the title alone, how insane is it that Republicans in Congress would even title legislation in a foreign language and then tell us it's good for us?
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Yeah, I mean, I think the title says everything you need to know about what's in the bill. This is designed to benefit the people of other countries and once again, put Americans last. I think the most surprising part here is really that Republicans still have not got the message. They still do not understand that the bulk of the party, not just the base, the bulk of the party, wants Republicans in Congress to serve the interests of the American people. And this bill does anything, anything but that.
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So I want to get at why they're pushing it. But, but first, let's just talk about what the bill does. That's probably the best place to start, which is we're calling in an amnesty and the bill sponsor and all the other co sponsors are saying it's not an amnesty, it's not an amnesty. In fact, this is the opposite of amnesty. It's the rule of law. They're insisting. So Maria Salazar is the primary author and sponsor of this Republican from Florida, and she says it's not amnesty. Why is she lying to us?
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Yeah, this is a hard question to answer, actually, having worked on these issues for President Trump in 45, I'll say there's a lot of members of Congress who think that amnesty is sort of like a magical term of art. So if you say it's not an amnesty, it isn't, in other words, that amnesty doesn't have a precise dictionary definition. And so Salazar keeps saying, well, it's not an amnesty, it's not an amnesty. We didn't design this for an amnesty. But technically an amnesty is whenever you forego the enforcement of law against individuals who have broken a law or committed an offense. And that's precisely what this bill does, at least in 15 different places. Do they forego the enforcement of already established immigration law to allow illegal aliens to remain in the United States? So by the definition, by the dictionary definition, it's an amnesty. By its own terms, it's an amnesty. So it's another one of those games that members of Congress play where they'll say, look, if I can just keep repeating the same thing over and over and over again, maybe a certain percentage of the voting populace will believe me.
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So, and the other thing it does is it hands out to some, some, some immigrants under this category, some illegals under this category, it makes them legal permanent residents. It gives them a green card, and a green card is a pathway to citizenship. Somehow this escapes all of our debates, but if you're given a green card, you then have a pathway to citizenship in the United States. So stop lying to us that it's not a pathway to citizenship. You include that in the bill.
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Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, again, it's one of those frightening things where people who are working on reconstructing our entire immigration architecture don't seem to understand that an lpr, which is the technical term, you know, long term permanent resident, is the same as a green card, and a green card is just five years towards until you're eligible for naturalization. So, yeah, it is a pathway to citizenship. I think the other thing, though, that hasn't been talked about as much about with this bill is that it actually deconstructs a number of the significant achievements of the 1996 Immigration Reform Control act that Republicans passed in conjunction with Bill Clinton when he was president. So One of those, for example, the 3 in 10 bar which prohibits illegal aliens who are here from then, if they are deported or removed or they willingly remove themselves from the country, then being eligible to apply, apply for any kind of legal status adjustment later on for three or 10 years. And this bill would remove that. So some of the sort of bulwarks of immigration enforcement or protections for American citizens from illegal aliens, this bill also takes those out of the law and discards them.
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All right, let me, guys. I want to take this full screen because I want to show Theo this. This is from Maria Salazar's website. This is the list of endorsing organizations for this. And I think this gets at why these Republicans are even a part of this. It's because they've got donors in business interests who are shoving it like crazy. There's a huge list of names here. One of them that stands out to me, by the way. In addition, they all stand out, but the American Legion. Why the hell is the American Legion supporting this? Americans for Prosperity supports this amnesty bill. Americans for Prosperity, the Anti Defamation League is here. You've got the US Chamber of Commerce, which is here supporting this amnesty operation. There's basically, you know, and like. And then, of course, you got, like, the center for American Progress, like all these. These lefty groups. So what is this, Theo? Is. Is this the engine that's powering this kind of corruption? Is this why I'm seeing 20 Republicans joining in on this, because they're just trying to represent donors?
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Yeah, no, that's precisely right. I mean, look, we. We worked on something that would have reformed a lot of our legal immigration laws in 45. We couldn' any of these groups to support it because its instincts, the sort of. The origin of the bill was conservative. It would have doubled down on removing illegal aliens, on restricting some of the fraud and the abuse in the legal immigration visa system. And the Chamber of Commerce, Americans for Prosperity, the American Roofing association, the American Fast Food association, wanted nothing to do with our proposal in 45, but they support this. I think the other thing that's worth noting here is the absolute insanity of some of these provisions in this bill. Make it so that you get Democrat support. And this should be a real strong sign for all of the American voters who say, well, I'm kind of a moderate. I'm kind of an independent. I really want Republicans to work with Democrats. So in order to work with Democrats, what you have to have is an amnesty for about 35 million people. You have to have provisions that would set aside criminal convictions for rape, murder, and violent physical assault so that you can remain in the United States. You have to have provisions for law that would say if you're a lawyer and you represent a rapist who's engaged in further sexual assault crimes, who's pending removal from the country. If you successfully represent him, you can get your law school debts removed. So that's the kind of crazy stuff that Democrats insist you have in a piece of legislation in order to get their support. So the trade associations want a giant amnesty and the Democrats basically want to gut law and order provisions and really a large portion of our, of our immigration enforcement architecture, and this comes at
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the expense of American workers. The whole point is to like import a cheap, low paid foreign workforce in order to undercut American workers, thus leaving them suffering. So I'm looking at like one of the operations that supports this that I flagged is the African American Farmers of California. How does giving amnesty to massive numbers of illegals benefit black Americans? How does that work exactly?
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Look, I have no idea who the African American Farmers Association California is or are. I can tell you though that the evidence now is fairly substantial. Over the last 40 years, where any number of well respected economists have said that the importation of mass exploitable labor operates to the detriment of the lowest rung workers in the American economy, in particular African Americans as they work in both retail trade related sectors, there's no question anymore that the importation of mass exploitable workers operates to the detriment of the American worker, diminishing educational opportunities, diminishing socioeconomic mobility opportunities. The other thing here though again that hasn't been talked about with this bill that I think it's worth mentioning is Salazar gave an interview just a few days ago and the podcast host asked her, really put her through her paces. I think she thought this was going to be sort of a friendly interview and said, look, you know, I'm looking at all the provisions of the bill and the one question I just have is how do you administer something like this? You give it essentially 18 to 24 months for USCIS, which is the visa granting legal status granting entity at DHS, to review. Close to 30 million would be illegal alien applicants under the terms of this bill. How are they going to administer 30, 30,000 illegal immigrant applications a day? Which is about what the math would work out to be. And she says, that's not for me to legislate, that's for DHS to figure out. And I'll just say to your viewers, look, there's not a single conservative piece of legislation out there that would say, hey, we're fine with the EPA regulating coal, power or clean water. We're not gonna tell them how to do it. They'll figure the bureaucrats, the deep state will figure out how to administer A conservative piece of legislation would draw specifics, it would detail how the program itself should be administered. And that's how, you know, this is a liberal bill and orientation. Let the deep state, let the civil bureaucracy run this. And regardless of whether or not they can actually do it, which the simple answer here is, there's no way you could vet and clear 30,000 illegal immigrant applicants a day over the course of 18 months. It's impossible.
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It's an entire class of people who've been violating our nation's laws. And then you're saying, well, we're just going to take them at their word that they got here before a certain date. The whole thing's insane, actually. And it's Republicans who are pushing it and it needs to die, this thing. Now, the White House has not come out and condemned this legislation yet. My White House correspondent Reagan Reese asked the White House last week if they've taken a position and Caroline Levitt said she would get back. She said, we'll take a look at it. I don't have anything for you today, but I'll get back to you on that. I haven't seen them take a position yet on the subject. My hope is that they're going to enthusiastically dunk on this. What do you think they should do here, Theo?
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Yeah, I mean, I think they should obviously reject this just with no equivocation. And whoever is advising Republicans either in Congress or in the White House, that the sort of suggestion or the toe tap dance with amnesty is somehow electorally viable for Republicans or it adds voters to the column, they are obviously being deeply, deeply misinformed. This bill from the word go is so unpopular and it's unpopular, I think in a unique way. American citizens, voters are now well aware at how our country is being exploited by foreign nationals. Whether it's the fake childcare centers, whether it's the hospice centers in Los Angeles, what they want to see Republicans in Congress tackling, what they want to see the White House doing is working on ferreting out the fraud and preventing the theft of Americans hard earned tax dollars by foreign nationals, the citizens of Somalia, the citizens of Guatemala or Mexico. And so the idea that instead of doing that, we would say, hey, let's allow more and more foreign nationals to take up residence in your neighborhoods so they can continue to rob from your children. That's an albatross. That's a total election loser. So I hope the White House, in no uncertain terms says that whether it means we lose a seat in Miami for Congresswoman Salazar, I guess. Too bad. So sad. I think we can do a lot better picking up more American first minded congressmen or congresswomen in other places in the country.
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Yeah, and it'd be a total betrayal of what the President was elected on, which was to get control of our nation's borders and to restore it for Americans. That was obviously why he was elected. One of the many reasons it was too big to rig. Before I let you go, Theo, one other thing I wanna ask you about is birthright citizenship. There was just a big case in the United States Supreme Court on this subject, oral arguments, and many of us were very troubled by what sounded like the justices kind of being okay with the status quo, that illegal aliens could come here, give birth, and then suddenly have American citizens in their family, which is in no way what the writers of the 14th Amendment meant for that amendment that was designed explicitly for slaves, former slaves and their children. Theo, I know you were a part of drafting the first birthright citizenship executive order in the first administration. Tell me your thoughts on this subject. And what are the chances that the Supreme Court does the right thing here?
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Yeah, I think the simple thing for folks who are not lawyers, who are not legal geeks, I think the simple sort of thesis here is exactly as you describe. The debates at the time of ratification of the 14th Amendment. In particular, the discussions that surrounded the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment and then similarly situated statutes. Statutory enactments following the Civil War, including the Civil Rights act of 1866, make plain that the citizenship clause was really designed to deal with the issue of recently freed slaves and their children, to regularize their status under American law. It had nothing to do with what we would call transient foreign nationals, transient individuals who were passing through the United States either on short term labor visas or who would enter the country illegally, which to be honest, I think a lot of folks pointed out, there really was no notion of illegal entry or illegal aliens entering our economy or entering our society in the 1960s century. So I think all the source documents all indicate really that there's really only one intelligible outcome here. But as far as the argument itself, I'm hesitant to sort of forecast the doom and gloom which is my natural disposition. I will say the questions that were being asked by a number of the Republican appointed Justices, in particular Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Barrett and Roberts, they're not hopeful. And I think, obviously I think the Chief is really disinclined. Chief Justice Roberts is disinclined to read into the 14th amendment what many of us think is so obvious. And then you have Justice Gorsuch who seemed to think that Wong Kim Ark, a case from the 19th century that dealt with Chinese nationals who were under short term visas here and had a child that that case controls, but not in the way that most people read that case, that actually its outcome would suggest that the children of illegal aliens could have status. And that leaves you, Justice Barrett and Justice Kavanaugh. Justice Barrett asked a lot of sort of technical administrability questions. What do you do with foundlings? Those are children that are left at someone's doorstep or orphanages whose parents are unknown? What do you do as stateless individuals who show up in our international airports? And all those kind of practical administerability questions seem to suggest that she thinks there's a reliance interest here that cannot be disturbed. And then Justice Kavanaugh was sort of all over the map. Now obviously the three liberal justices went into this oral argument. They're already hardwired, totally hard baked as being opposed to this. And so I think, you know, look, we're looking at probably a 7, 2, maybe at best a 6, 3 outcome.
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That doesn't sound good. That doesn't sound good. This seems kind of existential to me that that's so. So lastly, if we do get an outcome like that, where should the political pressure go to? I mean this, it sounds like we might need a constitutional amendment to clarify all of this. If we really wanted to go for the gold. Where should our political pressure go?
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Yeah, I mean, two things. And it ties right back into our previous conversation about Representative Salazar, Representative Lawler and these other folks who are designing this amnesty Trojan horse, which is Republicans in Congress could be working diligently on a statutory fix. There's room for Congress to weigh in on what the meaning of the 14th Amendment is, number one. And number two, it may be actually time to take up this idea of amending the Constitution. And I raised this previously a couple weeks ago and a lot of folks said, oh, we'll never get the Constitution amendment, the bar is too high and liberal states are opposed to this. And I honestly think that if you really wanted to knit together some of the best parts of the America first movement with sort of that boomer oriented tea party 2010 moment, it's to get the American citizen animated by the idea that there are liberal justices, some of whom were appointed by Republican presidents, and there are do nothing members of Congress who want to prevent solutions to an obvious existential problem like the ability of high ranking members of the CCP to come to places like Hawaii or the CNMI, have children, and then get a passport and a U.S. visa. Right. So if you want to address that, get out, turn out the vote and amend the Constitution. I think actually it would be a great exercise in energizing the American people to take control of their own government. And I think that may be the only, the only silver bullet we have left.
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Yes. And it also could be electoral fuel to help for everything else down ballot. I mean, this is why Democrats routinely put weed referendums on ballots, just to get people to turn up, you know, just so they can get more power. That's what, that's, that's it. Just, you gotta think about these tactics. Theo Wald, thank you very much. Great to have you with us today. Appreciate you.
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Yeah, thanks for having me.
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It's good to be with you.
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Excellent.
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Thank you, Theo. There's Theo Wald. A great rundown of everything we got going on right now. Just madness. It really does matter to our country how a US citizen is created. I happen to think it should be just American citizens who give birth to American citizens. And then we naturalize when we feel like it. We're like, you know what, you can become a citizen. We're very selective in that. I don't think that legal immigrants, as nice as you are, if you're illegal, that's fine, but you're not an American citizen. So why should your kid become an American citizen? And especially illegal aliens. What you just pour into our country, have a baby, and now you've got an American citizen? That doesn't make any sense to me. You know, if we, if we're going to protect this country, we have to protect the way we, we have new American citizens, obviously. Let me get to Iran now with you. J.D. vance just wrapped up a big round of negotiations directly with the Iranians in Islamabad and he walked out and he announced after 20 hours, no deal. Cut seven. Here's the vice President of the United States. We have been at it now for 21 hours and we've had a number of substantive discussions with the Iranians. That's the good news.
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The bad news is that we have
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not reached an agreement. And I think that's bad news for Iran much more than it's bad news for the United States of America. So we go back to the United States having not come to an agreement. We've made very clear what our red lines are, what things we're willing to accommodate them on and what things we're not willing to accommodate them on.
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And we've made that as clear as we possibly could.
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And they have chosen not to accept our terms. They've chosen not to accept our terms. So where do we go from here? Where do we go from here? Well, the President of the United States shares the messages on truth social media yesterday saying that, well, that's it. Iran refuses to back off of its nuclear ambitions. So we're gonna have to take things to the next level. Now, as you know right now a ceasefire is in effect going through I believe next week. So that's the plan at the moment. Negotiations, the hope of negotiations continues to be somewhat alive. But in the meantime, the President has announced that he will be issue issuing, starting a blockade of the Strait of Hormuz Beginning at 10:00am Eastern Time today. So by the time you hear this podcast, if you're listening to it on delay, it may very well have already begun. 10:00am Eastern Time, the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz begins. Here's the President announcing this last night. Cut four watch.
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I would say it's holding. Well, their military is destroyed, their whole navy is underwater. You know that 158 ships are gone, their navy is gone. Most of their mine droppers are gone. We have a lot of people, as you know, at 10 o' clock tomorrow we have a blockade going into effect. That will be 10 o' clock tomorrow. Other nations are working so that Iran will not be able to sell oil. And that would be very effective. But what we want to do is we want to. And again, we don't need it. What we notice and what we see and what I think is maybe my idea, maybe not, I don't know. But there are many boats heading toward our country to fill up with oil and then go and take it. So they're not going to go through the Hormuz Strait and ultimately that'll be corrected. But in the meantime, they're using us. We have more oil because of drill, baby, drill. We have more oil than Russia and Saudi Arabia put together. So if you look at Russia and Saudi Arabia, two big ones, we have much more oil than they have put together. And what's happening is boats are coming over here, filling up, we don't have to go through the hormones.
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The Strait of Hormuz. Now I want to get into some of the specifics here. One, this is going to increase the leverage that the United States has over Iran in order to get a deal. And here's how remind you of the big numbers. 40% of China's oil and natural gas comes through the Strait of Hormuz. It's a lot. 50% of India's crude oil and 90% of their liquefied petroleum gas, their LPG, comes through the Strait of Hormuzzi. There's a massive amount of energy on the line. These countries will be desperate to get the Strait of Hormuz fully and freely open. This will increase the chances that they place pressure on Iran to come to a deal. Remember, the fact that we even got to a negotiation phase included China pressuring Iran to sit down with the United States. The White House confirmed that China did get involved. So there's gonna be a lot more pressure on Iran now from a lot of different angles in order to get a deal here. Another piece of this. What does this blockade look like? What are they actually blockading? Is the whole Strait of Hormuz going to be shut down? No ships are going to move to the Strait of Hormuz. No, that's not what this is. Central Command announced in its details that they're going to be enforcing this blockade on Iran. Specifically, it'll be enforced impartially, meaning it doesn't matter what ship you are or who you're with. Against vessels of all nations entering or departing Iranian ports and coastal areas. Central Command has added that the United States will not impede freedom of navigation for vessels who are transiting the Strait of Hormuz to and from non Iranian ports. So it's specifically for Iranian ports. Any ship that wants to go or leave to and from Iran, you can't do it now with the United States Navy. They're having this blockade starting at 10am Eastern this morning. So this is the, the President's latest effort to try and bring this thing to a resolution. And just, just keep your eyes on that. Now, why didn't they get a deal? What was the shortcoming of the deal? Well, the President said the most important thing is nuclear. And we didn't get there on the important issue. There were a lot of, there was a lot of progress made, but fundamentally at the end, the Iranians didn't want to give up their nuclear ambitions. So we don't have a deal. Cut five. Here's President Trump explaining to Maria Bartiromo how it went down.
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We're going to be blockading. It'll take a little while, but it'll be effective pretty soon. And we had meetings yesterday. They, as you said, lasted 21 hours. That was a long meeting. We had some very, very good representatives, as you know, JD And Steve and Jared, so we were well represented, but we didn't get there on the important issue. They want to have nuclear weapons. They're not going to have nuclear weapons. I've been saying that for 30 years. I would never allow that to happen before I was in politics. And that country will not have nuclear weapons. Most countries shouldn't be allowed to have, but that country will not have nuclear weapons.
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So, Mr. President, was that the red line there? Can you explain to us what went on in these talks? What, what did the United States ask of Iran and how did they react?
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Well, they reacted, you know, it was very interesting. It started off weak. They were. They came in like they had the cards, but they don't have the cards. Their army, their whole military is obliterated. The whole place is obliterated. And, you know, as, you know, levels of leaders are gone. They're literally gone. Khamenei's gone. The whole thing is gone. The whole place is gone. They have one thing that they can do. They can say, well, gee, we're going to put a mine someplace in the. Just a mine. We'll drop one mine, two mines, 10 mines. And that will. If you have a ship that costs a billion dollars, you say, well, you know, I prefer not getting whacked by a mine, losing my ship or damaging it badly at least. And so that's a little bit of a thing that they could do, that. It's military might and military power don't do it. But, you know, it's extortion and they're extorting the world. You know, we don't get our oil from there. We have so much. We have. And one thing you said is. I don't know if anybody heard it well, but we have votes pouring up to the United States. They'll be filling them up and they'll be leaving. And they're going to be packed with the best. The best oil you can get.
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The best oil you can get right from the United States of America. But the President said fundamentally it came down to nuclear. You know, it doesn't matter how much progress we made on all these other points. You know, Iran's looking for sanctions relief. They want. They want access to money again. Your future could be very bright. Just do the one thing that the President is asking for. Give up the nuclear ambition. Give that up. The rest is done. The rest is done. You ready for that? No. Okay. We'll keep playing this game until you are. The blockade begins 10am Eastern this morning. May it work. May it work. We'll have all of the emerging details for you coming up on tomorrow's program. Today I've got the big national radio show. You can check out the vinshow.com for your local radio listings or you can join us live on Rumble. We do the last two hours together on Rumble. From 12 to 3 Eastern is the radio show. From 1 to 3. We're live on Rumble. Rumble.com Vince today you've got the great Dan Bongino up@rumble.com Bongino, 10am Eastern. That's live. And then you've got Haley Karenia, the wonderful Haley Karenia, who is got a great show. It's Haley with two Y's. Why? Because she is great. Rumble.com Haley she's live at noon Eastern on Rumble. As always, I hope you have an absolutely incredible day. You're the best audience anywhere. It's so good to be back with you. Look at you. You're so gorgeous. I just wanted a beautiful chat. It was nice to see you. I'll be back with you tomorrow.