Interviewer or Questioner (3:40)

Instagram.

Vince (3:41)

You grabbed this. You were walking down the beach. What happened? You on the beach and you saw this on the beach?

James Comey (3:46)

Yeah, my wife and I, Patrice, were walking on the beach and saw those numbers in shells on the beach.

Vince (3:51)

You didn't do this. Somebody else did this.

James Comey (3:53)

Yeah, somebody else did it. We were on a walk, preparing for this week, the rollout of my book. She looked at it and said, why'd someone put their address in the sand?

Vince (4:00)

All right, $2,000.

James Comey (4:02)

We stood at it, trying to figure. Looked at it, trying to figure out what it was. And she'd long been a server in restaurants, and she said, you know what I think it is?

Vince (4:08)

Yeah.

James Comey (4:08)

I think it's a reference to restaurants. When you would 86 something in a restaurant, right?

Vince (4:12)

It's off the menu.

James Comey (4:13)

Yeah. I said, no, I remember as a kid, you'd say 86 to get out of a place. This place stinks. Let's 86 it.

Vince (4:19)

I was a bartender. You would 86 a customer if they were getting drunk. Like, let's 86 them. Listen to them making excuses. Something like that. Yeah.

James Comey (4:26)

And so I said, I think it's a clever political message. And she said, you should take a picture of it. I Said, sure. And then she said, you should Instagram that, and boom.

Vince (4:37)

Well, it was my wife's fault. He blamed his wife. James Comey did. And when in fact, you know very well what happened. His overgrown ass was lying on the beach shaping shells into numbers and then posting them to his Instagram account like he's a teenage girl. The guy who posts selfie videos talking about his love for Taylor Swift was definitely doing shell art on the beach. 8647. You love how, how he feigns ignorance. Like the two of them, oh, we walked up on it and then we stared at him. We thought, why would someone write an address on the beach and an address. What a con artist. You're not a very good one, by the way. What a con artist. An address. If it's an address, where's the road? What are you talking about? Yeah, nobody. You didn't think it was an address. You drew it, you dumbass. That's James Comey. This is the same sort of like, kind of like feigned ignorance that you get from, like earlier this week we got from Norah o'. Donnell. Remember that clip where President Trump sits down with her after the assassination attempt, yet another assassination attempt, yet another Lefty tries to 86, 47 this past weekend. And President Trump sits down with Norah o' Donnell on cbs. And then she starts saying, well, the guy wrote in the manifesto that you're a rapist and a pedophile and a traitor. What do you have to say to that? And the President said, you're a disgrace. And she goes, oh, you thought he was talking about you. Feigned ignorance. Not very clever. Feigned ignorance. Not at all. But it gives the game away when your excuses are that absurd. When you pretend that you're that stupid, then everybody knows that you're that guilty. So. So in Comey's case, it's just like, ridiculous what he was doing. Absolutely ridiculous. Clearly trying to whip his left wing cheerleaders into a complete frenzy. Look, I said, we got to eliminate Trump. Don't you agree? And then pretended like I didn't have anything to do with it. Not good. Not good. In fact, criminal. According to the United States Department of Justice, which under Todd Blanche, the acting Attorney general right now, just dropped a big fat indictment on James Comey's head yesterday, a grand jury with two charges. Here's Todd Blanche yesterday announcing the charges, both involving threats against the President of the United States.

Todd Blanche (6:58)

Watch this cut to a grand jury sitting in the Eastern District of North Carolina returned an indictment against James Comey on two counts. The first count is that honor about May 15th of last year, he knowingly and willfully making a threat to take the life of and to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States. Count two, same day, May 15, 2025, that the defendant, James Comey, knowingly and willfully transmitting in interstate commerce a communication that contained a threat to kill the President of the United States. Both of these counts carry a maximum term of imprisonment of 10 years. So I think it's fair to say that threatening the life of anybody is dangerous and potentially a crime. Threatening the life of the President of the United States will never be tolerated by the Department of Justice.

Vince (7:57)

Now, I want to talk about venues here for a moment. You hear from Todd Blanche. This is happening in the Eastern District of North Carolina. Eastern District of North Carolina. Now, if, in case you're concerned about, you know, where. Where do Democrats concentrate in. In North Carolina? That's in the West. That's to the. That's the western side of the state. The eastern side of the state. You're going to get a lot more conservatives. In other words, you're going to get a lot more rational people, people who will consider this case fairly. They will adhere to the Constitution, they will adhere to the law, they will adhere to justice, and they will render judgments on the basis of that. Eastern North Carolina. Love eastern North Carolina. I've spent a lot of years of my life in eastern North Carolina living on, specifically Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. My dad a Marine. We spent a lot of time there. I worked there in local radio, Worked there in the local newspaper business. Loved it. Love eastern North Carolina. Great people. Just absolutely wonderful Americans. And so, in other words, the jury pool of eastern North Carolina is composed of wonderful Americans who are gonna make rational decisions about how to handle James Comey here. Which is good. Everybody, if you stand criminally accused, you deserve a fair day in court. And James Comey is gonna get a fair day in court in eastern North Carolina. Love that. Now, distinguish that from the Eastern District of Virginia, where you had a situation where a grand jury did return charges against Comey, and this was for lying to Congress, lying about his dissemination of information to the media, and yet that case collapsed. Given the judges who were involved and sort of the corruption inside the jurisdiction. That's not. These problems don't exist in the Eastern District of North Carolina right now. God willing, it looks like we're in a much better venue for a real prosecution of this guy. So keep an eye on that element. That's a huge piece of this. And we'll explore the specifics here because, you know, obviously James Comey is already mounting like this sort of ignorance defense, like, oh, I didn't know I was threatening the guy and I have my free speech rights and I can post this to Instagram. We'll address all of that in a moment. But first, I just want to concentrate on to what extent is this a politicized prosecution, as the left would say that this is some sort of selective prosecution dedicated to only the president's political opponents. Todd Blanche says it's nonsense because this very district keeps prosecuting people for threatening government officials and presidents of the United States of both political parties. Here's Todd Blanche yesterday describing this. Listen, cut three.

Todd Blanche (10:28)

So I think it's fair to say that threatening the life of anybody is dangerous and potentially a crime. Threatening the life of the president of the United States will never be tolerated by the Department of Justice. Over the past year, this department has charged dozens of cases involving threats against all sorts of individuals. We take these seriously, every single one of them. For example, just today in the Northern District of Florida, there was a guilty plea from an individual who threatened multiple political leaders, including President Trump. In the Eastern District of North Carolina, where this case was indicted earlier today, there are multiple threats, cases very similar to this one, including one where the defendant pled guilty recently to threatening former President Biden. Another one that's scheduled to go to trial this summer, another one indicted, an individual was indicted for threatening Tom Homan. I say that to say that while this case is unique and this indictment stands out because of the name of the defendant, his alleged conduct is the same kind of conduct that we will never tolerate and that we will always investigate and regularly prosecute.

Vince (11:54)

Doesn't matter who you are, nobody's above the law. Your stature, your name, ID is not a shield from accountability, nor should it be. So when you say you want to eliminate the president of the United States and you write it out in shell art on the beach, you should be held accountable for your own actions, which is what Comey is being subjected to right now. Now, there are no guarantees about the way this process plays out. You know, James Comey may mount some sort of successful defense. Who knows if he gets a judge that helps throw this out. You know, even Jonathan Turley this morning I saw posting about this Turley, no fan of Comey at all. Jonathan Turley came out this morning and he said the following about this indictment. He said in his new column, because I've been one of Comey's longest and most vocal critics, however, is the Constitution, not Comey. That must drive this analysis. He thinks the indictment is unlikely to survive First Amendment challenges. May be true, maybe, but the reality here is that the Justice Department is bringing this case with evidence. With evidence. In fact, yesterday, one of the reporters asked Todd Blanche, how are you going to prove his intent here? He says that it was just innocent, that they just stumbled upon this on the beach. And Todd Blanche says, we're going to prove it the way every case is proven, with evidence, all of it. Cut five. Watch this,

David Morens (13:19)

sir.

Vince (13:19)

How will you prove intent? When, as the director had acknowledged, Mr. Comey said he did not associate 86 with doing harm, and he took it down promptly, said it was political speech, not an intent to harm the President.

Todd Blanche (13:34)

Well, it's not. It's not. This case was indicted today. This conduct occurred about a year ago, May 15th of last year. There's been a tremendous amount of investigation. And how do you prove intent in any case? You prove intent with witnesses, with documents, with the defendant himself to the extent it's appropriate. And that's how we'll improve intent in this case. And so I think that talking about what Mr. Comey will or will not do, if there's a trial, when there's a trial, it's not. It's very premature for me to do

Vince (14:05)

that today with evidence. It won't just be the Post. It'll be everything. It'll be everything. We're gonna present to you every last piece of evidence we have on this subject. And, And. And we'll get to the bottom of this. Remember, James Comey was interviewed by government officials after he made this threat. The Secret Service paid him a visit. They talked to him. He made statements to them. All of this is going to go into the evidence in this case against him. And the Justice Department felt confident enough that these charges could stand up through a court process that they brought the charges. So now James Comey is going to have his day in court. Now, remember, somebody in the chat just said this, too, and I completely agree with this, that the process is a punishment here. Now, that's not the reason this is being done. It's not merely to subject him to the process. They're doing this because they believe he genuinely violated the law, and they're accusing him of that. And so now he's got to go to court to prove otherwise. But this is a situation where James Comey's got to pay a lawyer. James Comey's got to be. He's got to be. He's arrested, he's arraigned, he's mugshotted. He goes through the process. He, this is all he's now being subjected to, a process that the left has gleefully subjected Donald Trump to over and over and over again on the basis of false charges, false charges that Trump violated laws when he didn't. Now James Comey is being accused of violating a law when it looks pretty clearly like he did. So now he's got to go through the process, too, again. And he's miserable about it and good. It couldn't happen to a better person. Comey deserves it. He definitely does. So this is, this is a kind of a fascinating development. I, I like seeing that Todd Blanche is doing this. I, I'm interested. I think there's something going on in chat. You tell me if you feel like this is, this is in your view, too. Do you feel like Todd Blanche represents a sea change at the Justice Department? Chad, tell me, do you think Todd Blanche represents a meaningful change from Pam Bondi at the United States Department of Justice? Is this your sense? Because I feel like what we are witnessing right now is the prosecutorial floodgates are starting to be opened right now at levels now. I'm not, I'm not condemning Pam Bondi's tenure. I think Pam Bondi, there's, there's a lot that the Justice Department has to be proud of from the time that she was in office, specifically as it relates to the activities of the FBI, which falls under the Justice Department. The fact that they were able to get the murder rate to the lowest level, the fact that they were bringing all these prosecutions against a lot of Democrats. I've gone through the list before. A lot of Democrats have been prosecuted, high profile people to include James Comey. That was in the Eastern District of Virginia, as I said before. But something feels meaningfully different about Todd Blanche here because what did we see just in the last week, the Southern Poverty Law center, this epic money center on the left, James Comey now prosecuted in the Eastern District of North Carolina. We just got, and I'm going to get into the details on this in just a moment, we just got a massive indictment of one of the leading operators in the COVID conspiracy against the United States of America. Not a small deal, massive deal, as Anthony Fauci got a fat pardon from President Auto Pen, his second in command. This guy David Morens, his chief henchman, just prosecuted by the United States Department of Justice on the basis of stuff that we actually knew about. Years ago, finally being prosecuted now under Todd Blanche. Is that a coincidence? I think what's happening right now is. And Chat's agreeing with me. For those of you listening on the audio podcast, they do think Blanche represents a sea change. Blanche is doing something that Pam Bondi was not. Blanche is doing something that Pam Bondi was not. And I'm here for it because accountability is what I voted for. Accountability is what you voted for. We voted for criminal accountability for people who broke our laws and hurt our country. And all of a sudden we've got rapid fire boom, boom, boom, boom. Prosecutions all coming out right now. It's amazing. It's amazing. And we'll get into more of it here in just a moment, including the fact that yesterday. Did you guys see this? The FBI raided the Quality Leering Center. Yeah. In Minnesota. Yes. Yes. More of that, please. I've got a lot more coming up here on this edition. Events want to take you to one of our great sponsors now. I We love Rumble, don't we? We love Rumble. Rumble's great. Rumble.com, vince is where you can watch us each day on this, this great platform. Love doing this. It's a free speech platform and, and they also have this great free finance platform. 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U.S. Attorney (20:30)

Thank you, Mr. Attorney General. Earlier today, a grand jury in the Eastern District of North Carolina returned a true bill indicting Mr. James Comey with committing two felonies. Count one, he knowingly and willfully made a threat to kill and to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States in violation of 18 USC 871A. Count two, he knowingly and willfully transmitted an interstate and foreign commerce a communication that contained a threat to kill President Trump in violation of 18 USC 875C. Mr. Comey will be given every form of due process all citizens are entitled to receive to include a trial by a jury of his peers in the Eastern District of North Carolina. It doesn't matter who you are. We take all threat cases seriously and prosecute anyone who violates federal law, regardless of title or status.

David Asher (21:48)

Thank you.

Vince (21:49)

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. U.S. attorney. Appreciate you, brother, for doing this. So James Comey now being prosecuted for his threats and Comey through the years, even in the reinterpretation of 8647. I didn't mean to kill him. I didn't mean to kill him. I just meant to stagnate him. I meant to hogtie him. I meant to slow him down. Well, James Comey has been pulling that kind of crap for years, too. Remember, he leaked his personal conversations with the President of the United States, memorialized on official government documents to the New York Times. And, and then he claimed that, oh, those were. These were. Those were my personal memos, therefore I was allowed to leak them. No, you weren't. Those were government documents, you absolute scam artist. And he did that to get a special counsel appointed. Bob Mueller, remember that? And then Mueller gets appointed, and then the rest is history. The rest is history. The Trump Russia collusion conspiracy hoax was given some of its biggest flames by the Most Gas on the Fire by James Comey. And, and here's here's basically the consequences of Comey's behavior beginning to catch up with him.

David Asher (22:56)

Good, good.

Vince (22:58)

Now you get to face down the justice system that you abused. Have fun with that. Okay. The FBI yesterday raided the Quality Leering center and a whole bunch of other places and more than 20 other businesses all across Minnesota yesterday. Which is, that's a great deal of fun for those of us who would like to see justice in the world. Here is the New York Post recitation of the news yesterday. Quality Learning Center, 20 other Minnesota daycares raided by FBI as a part of a massive fraud investigation. The FBI rating the infamous Quality Leering center and more than 20 other businesses all across the state. They were investigating a multibillion dollar social services fraud ring. These are tied of course to businesses in the Somali American community. Sources telling the Post, quote, today the FBI with federal, state and local law enforcement involved in court authorized law enforcement activity as a part of an ongoing fraud investigation. Justice Department official telling the New York Post, you can see the FBI agents rating what looks like the outside of the Quality Leering center in this image. Rumble.com Vince for you to see it. Agents used a battering ram to enter at least one of the alleged daycares Metro Learning Center. According to ktsp, the targets include the Quality Leering center as as well as a whole bunch of other places. President Trump had announced this war on fraud in his February State of the Union address and he put Vice President JD Vance in charge of the task force. Of course, they also have an assistant U.S. attorney now is reporting directly to the Vice President on this. And they went after these guys. They went after all these guys and they're trying to take down these fraudsters. Remember when it comes to the Somali American community and the fraud that's being perpetrated by them, this goes back to back in November, the New York Times had a piece of on the way that fraudsters, Somali fraudsters are motivated by their culture. That. And this is actually interesting. I'm gonna pull this up for you as I'm thinking about it. Stealing from the government is widespread in Somali culture, according to the New York Times. In fact, they had a guy called Dr. Samatar talking about American society and how it's vulnerable to this kind of Somali fraud. This is one of my, but I think this is one of my favorite stories to cite because of, because of what the New York Times even just reveals about it. So here's their guy, Dr. Samatar. He's their Somali American expert. And Dr. Samatar lays out that these are the basically the Somalis are coming in and stealing from Americans because that's their culture. Ahmad Samatar, this is what he said in the piece. A professor at McAllister College who is a leading expert in Somali studies, said a reckoning over the fraud and its consequences from Minnesota was overdue. Quote, American society and the denizens of the state of Minnesota have been extremely good to Somalis, said Dr. Samatar, who is a Somali American. Dr. Sam that's true. They have. Americans have been very good to Somalis. Dr. Samatar said that Somali refugees who came to the United States after their country's civil war were raised in a culture in which stealing from the country's dysfunctional and corrupt government was widespread. In other words, it's a part of the culture. Quote, Minnesota, he said, proves susceptible to rampant fraud because it is so tolerant, so open, and so geared toward keeping an eye on the weak. Now, this is not true. This is not. There may be people in Minnesota who are this kind, these, these kinds of suckers, but the reason why Minnesota is so susceptible to this kind of fraud is because Democrats have been aiding and abetting it. Knowingly. Tim Walls knew that this fraud was going on. He was aiding it and abetting it. Keith Ellison is caught on tape aiding and abetting fraudsters who wanted investigations into their fraud to go away. And he told them, money buys you freedom. Donate to my campaign, we'll hassle them. One phone call from the attorney General's office tends to get the results that we want. That was Keith Ellison caught on tape saying that, speaking of someone who should be prosecuted. So, no, that, that's the One thing that Dr. Samatar gets wrong here. It's not merely this sort of like, doe eyed optimism, like, just like complete, like, ignorance of the fact that you're being robbed. That's not what's happening here. The Democrats are aiding and abetting the theft of American taxpayer money to the tune of tens of billions of dollars. That's really going on. But this New York Times piece again from November of last year, points out that this is cultural. They were raised in a culture in which stealing from the country's government was widespread. Okay, well, then don't come here and steal from us. We all we ask for immigration is assimilation. That's what I mean. We ask, is it good for America?

David Asher (28:07)

Is it?

Vince (28:07)

And if it's gonna be good for America, assimilate into our culture. Our culture is not stealing from one another. Our culture is law and order. Our culture is sovereignty. Our culture is love of country. Our Culture is respect for one another, neighborliness. Our culture is being a patriotic American. That's our culture. You're stealing from Americans. You're none of those things.

David Asher (28:27)

Sorry.

Vince (28:28)

You're none of those things. And even the New York Times admits that it's a cultural problem, a huge one. So now we're seeing the effects of it. And so we got these huge raids going on in Minnesota, thank God, under Todd Blanche's Justice Department, Cash Patel's FBI, President Trump's administration. And it's funny, because tampon Tim Walls yesterday came out and he tried to take credit for it. Yeah, no, you heard me correctly. Tampon Tim Walls yesterday tried to take credit for this yesterday. He goes, today's raids by state and federal enforcement happened because our state agencies caught irregular behavior and reported it. He claims that's how the system is supposed to work. And our agencies will keep at it as long as there are fraudsters around to put behind bars. He said. He goes on. He goes, now, let's work on a joint investigation into the killings of Alex Preddy and Renee Good. You psycho. You absolute psycho. So the guy who is encouraging people like Alex Preddy and Renee Goode to block and assault law enforcement officers now wants an investigation into how it is that they. They died. I would start with you, you utter jackass. The blood is on your hands for Alex Preddy and Renee Goode. And then. And then this idea that he gets credit for the raids on the Somali fraudsters who've been running rampant in his state. It's laughable for any number of reasons, but one of the guys hung us to laugh at this. Cash Patel, Casper. The director jumped in on this yesterday, and he goes, come again? This FBI and doj, with our DHS partners, drafted and executed every single search warrant today. But go ahead and take credit for our work while we smoke out the fraud plaguing Minnesota under your governorship. Good for Cash. The FBI director going, you get no credit. We award you zero points, and may God have mercy on your soul. That's the reaction from Kash Patel. Wonderful news. Wonderful news. 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You know, this guy, David Warrens, he may not have the highest profile name in the conversation, but I'm telling you right now, he's one of the single biggest creatures we could possibly be prosecuting right now for the COVID chaos. He deserves it. Remember, Anthony Foushee was given this big pardon by President Auto Pen. And I don't think that my personal opinion is the Auto Pen in no way gives you an actual pardon. So they should, they should still test a prosecution against Anthony Foushee in court and see how much that Auto Pen stands up. But this guy, David Morens, is a big fish in this fight, a very big one. He's the, the ex NIAID official and he's looking at up to 51 years in prison for concealing all sorts of information of value to the American public and destroying it. In fact, in emails that were released a couple years ago, he just admitted over and over and over again that he was destroying things, that he was using his private email to hide things from the American people. He was expressing things on a private account. He said, quote, there are things I can't say except Tony is aware. And I have learned that there are ongoing efforts within NIH to steer this through with minimal damage to you, Peter, and colleagues, and to NIH and NIAID. He says this is an April 26, 2020 email that he sent to Peter Daszak, one of the chief conspirators here in the, in the COVID chaos. And he talked about how the FOIA lady at his agency had taught him how to evade FOIA and delete information. They were deleting things before FOIA requests were coming. And so, in other words, we have known for years that this guy was actively destroying information about COVID to prevent you from knowing anything about it. We've known it for years, but apparently it took Todd Blanch arriving at the Justice Department to finally see a prosecution. To finally see a prosecution. In fact, David Moren's sins were so obvious to even Democrat members of Congress that at one point, Democrat Congressman Kwesi Mafume, back in testimony in 2024, said to David Morens, your testimony today is going to come back and haunt you. Take a look at this clip. This is back in 2024, May of 24. Cut one. Here's David Moores testifying before Congress.

Interviewer or Questioner (36:29)

Watched Dr. Morens. What else do you feel responsible for?

David Morens (36:34)

Pardon?

Interviewer or Questioner (36:34)

What else do you feel responsible for?

David Morens (36:38)

I'm sorry, I'm getting this echo here and I just let me sort of turn off my microphone.

Interviewer or Questioner (36:44)

Yeah, you're using my time. Let me ask you, why didn't you report any of this to the ethics office?

David Morens (36:51)

I. I don't know. I didn't. I don't even know what our ethics office does. But Peter certainly reported the f. Peter

Interviewer or Questioner (36:57)

reported it to the f. I'm not worried about Peter. I'm talking about you. Peter's not here. I just want to know if you thought this was ethically incorrect or improper. Why didn't you report it to the ethics office.

David Morens (37:10)

What are you referring to? Is what being ethically improper?

Interviewer or Questioner (37:13)

Well, you just said you told. You asked him why was he sending this to one email account when it should have gone to another one.

David Morens (37:20)

And you're asking me whether I thought what he was doing was unethical. What I was doing is unethical, Sir,

Interviewer or Questioner (37:29)

I think you're going to be haunted by your testimony today. And it's unfortunate. It's all on the record and it doesn't make a lot of sense to many of us, certainly not to me.

Vince (37:40)

That's. Even a Democrat said that. That's David Morens, now indicted. Joining us right now to discuss what this all means is David Asher. David Asher is with the Hudson Institute. He was also in the State Department as the lead investigator into the origins of COVID and just left the State Department again working for President Trump investigating weapons of mass destruction. David Asher, great to have you back with me, sir.

David Asher (38:05)

Thanks very much.

Vince (38:07)

Tell me how consequential this is. How big of a deal is this?

David Asher (38:10)

I mean, it's a big deal because it's the beginning of a conspiracy indictment. It appears to me more indictment indicates there's two co conspirators, one who almost everyone on the Internet myself Agree is Peter Daszik, the head of the Eco Health alliance, the organization that was used as the funnel to move a huge amount of the NAID national NIH money to China and to researchers around the country that were engaged in dangerous gain of function research as well. And then another individual who has a former NIH NAID senior official who's at Boston University. When you're a co conspirator in my experience, and I brought down everything from the Gambino crime family on down in terms of indictments and RICO conspiracies, you are basically almost certainly going to be indicted if you're not indicted already. I mean, if you're a conspirator, you're a conspirator. So I think this is the beginning, not the end, of a wider process of justice being finally brought to these people that ultimately resulted in the killing basically of between 20 and 27 million people around the world, including 1.3 million Americans. It's crazy. It's crazy. Our government funded this stuff.

Vince (39:37)

So. So first and foremost, why do you think it took so long? We knew David Morens was destroying this information for years. That was a matter of public record for well over two years now. Why did it take until Todd Blanche arrived?

David Asher (39:51)

I don't know. Todd's a good financial prosecutor. That's why the President hired him in his defense when he was being ridiculously accused of real estate fraud, which is nuts for paying too much, too much tax. I mean, it's like heard of that before in New York City. You know, I think it was that. You know, the FBI has been pushing for this for a long time. They've had a closed up investigation for over two years. I don't know why AG Bondi didn't move this forward, but knowing Todd, I think he's just got a sense of justice and an injustice and he knows that these charges are not inherently that strong coming out of the gate, but it's what comes up afterward. Like yesterday we learned that Ralph Barrick, who is really the most important US contributor to the creation of COVID 19 at University of North Carolina, was banned from the campus. As far as I can understand it, all of his grants are stripped from him. And it sounds like he's basically being removed from the faculty. That indicates to me that if he's not under indictment, he's under something really serious. I mean, he's probably the most legendary, incapable genetic virus developer in the world and he trained the Bat lady in China. So, you know, this sounds like this is the beginning of a RICO conspiracy case, which would be justified after all these years. Why didn't happen before you tell me, Vince. I don't know. I mean, it makes no sense. It should have.

Vince (41:41)

A lot of these guys, it's, as you, as you well know, perhaps better than most. Definitely better than most. A lot of these guys who you're citing were involved in quite clearly a conspiracy to conceal the origins of COVID They were manipulating the scientific literature to prevent the public from realizing that it's very. It's in fact, almost entirely certain that the virus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Yet they conspired to hide that detail while having financial interests in the question.

David Asher (42:09)

Yeah, and receiving tens of millions of dollars in grants from naid, in effect, for being part of the conspiracy to conceal. You know, one of the most notorious is a guy named Christian Andersen at Scripps Institute in California. I think he received 8.7 million from Fauci after he agreed to switch his position. When he was asked what the origin was, he originally said it was almost certainly came out of a lab. Out of a lab accident. And it was based on the sequence that he analyzed where he saw small but technically important irregularities that almost were certainly inserted by humans, not by nature. He went from saying that was like 80% certain it came out of a laboratory in a period of like three or four days to saying, you know, it was like no percentage possible. It never provided any evidence. And this was all in their emails. All this stuff came out in the emails. And it was after he met with Fouchy repeatedly. And Fouchy and I would assume Morin in the background, greased the skids and said, hey, you guys, switch your position. We'll pay you millions of dollars.

James Comey (43:20)

Yes.

David Asher (43:21)

Shut up. And that's.

Vince (43:22)

Yeah, well, this, I mean, you know, paid him too. I want to get into China in a moment. But just so people realize, you know, that Covid the bug, COVID 19 was a picture perfect match for what Peter Dasak and Ecohealth alliance were trying to generate with DARPA. They had previously filed a grant request with DARPA, and they described in detail what COVID 19 ended up looking like. And so I saw somebody say early in this process, when it became clear that this was man made, they said, well, wait a second. The guy applied. It'd be like applying to strap horns to the heads of horses. And then all of a sudden, unicorns start popping out of. Of the Woolen Institute of Virology. And people are like, well, of course it was Peter Dasak and Ecohealth alliance funded by American taxpayers.

David Asher (44:05)

Yeah, no one did a better job of capturing the absurdity of this than Jon Stewart did years, several years ago. But you know, like, you know, the Wuhan Institute, the only place in the world where you study bad born coronaviruses, it's 1,000 miles away from any bat basically that could be associated with it because they harvest bats from all over Asia, including China. And so like, you know, you know, you know, the bat didn't mate with the pangolin, which is this weird armadillo like creature, but it does have a pangolin like receptor binder domain, I believe in it. So, you know, what happened was this is pure genetic engineering. I've been involved in biotechnology for many years, including I'll admit it, for maybe the first time on tv. Our partners in Europe are the Meru family, Maryu family, that are the who built the Wuhan Institute of Virology's BSL 4 High End Lab. The one that's all glass and shiny. They oversaw the construction. They warned me personally back in 2017 that they thought that that Wuhan Institute was involved in a biological weapons program. And that was because they got kicked out. They were supposed to have 50 researchers from France on site. And so this is one of the first things I described to Secretary Pompeo in the staff when I, when I asked to be allowed to investigate the origin of COVID I said, you know, I've been hearing about this for years. And by the way, the intelligence community was given that same information in 2017 by the French and so was the State Department and it was ignored. We had the information in our systems when I started at state in late 2019 under Pompeo. So even before COVID had come out of the gates in a global way, we knew that there was very suspicious bioweapons related activity going on at that institute and it was ignored. And so I'm very grateful to acting ag. Blanche, who's a great guy and a real effective individual for, for making and Cash Patel, who's another awesome individual for, for making this thing happen, you know, because the evidence been there for years. We, we, we have so much information on our systems. I mean, I mean, just been back at State dealing with biological weapons. In part the, the, you know, the stuff the Chinese are doing now makes this, the Wuhan Institute work on Covid look like nothing. And, but the key thing is this was synthetic biology. We can prove that and we know it from information that the FBI will present. I'm sure in the context of this Marin's court trial, synthetic biology could save us all through curing cancers and things or kill us all. And right now my unfortunate view is it's more likely to kill us all unless we try to regulate with our opponents are doing to use it against us.

Vince (47:13)

But if I'm understanding what you're saying about China correctly, China right now, in your view, has man made viruses that could threaten to destroy humanity?

David Asher (47:21)

Absolutely. Mers that can spread very readily. Ebola, that can spread not just readily, but actually slightly more slowly than normal. So that thing about Ebola, it kills people off so quickly, it doesn't spread very fast. So what they're doing this with synthetic biology. So these are viruses that are almost unstoppable in terms of the deadliness. I mean, ebola was like 80% kill rate, mares 50%. I mean, why are they doing research on these viruses? And we know they're doing it and it's not even classified. I mean we see in their papers, but we know on the classified level I can't get into. But it'll scare the hell out of you when that stuff becomes declassified, which I expect could happen in the context of this more in court case. I think this thing is the beginning of something bigger.

Vince (48:09)

One more on the potential for the threat from China and whatever viruses they have. I remember during the pandemic there was some consideration that perhaps China had viruses that were targeted based on genetics. In other words, they could protect the Chinese people from a virus, but they would kill lots of others, or they would specifically target people on the basis of their genetics. Is that your understanding?

David Asher (48:31)

Yeah, they've been working on genetically selected agents since at least 2011 when they declared that they were doing so at the biological weapons convention meeting in Europe. And so, you know, I assume they've been working on it before that I don't know that they can actually achieve that effect yet. But in theory it can be achieved. You can definitely target certain types of genetic traits. My friend Steve Kwei is a famous doctor and genetic researcher in the cancer. But he's also become a famous expert on Covid. He's got a book coming out where he on the sequence of COVID where he basically explains how all this is possible. And you know, and we know they're working on it. I mean, whether they can do it yet. I don't think Covid was a genetically selected agent, but they had the aspirations for it to be so, you know, this, this thing is just so. This is such a cesspool of dirt and grime. You know, it just, it's just, it's ridiculous that the US Government can contributed to the creation of a pandemic that killed 1.3 million of our citizens and cost us over 60% of GDP. I mean, it's amazing. Our country is held together through all this. And I give President Trump a lot of credit for leadership. Look, he almost died of this thing too.

Vince (49:47)

How deep is the Chinese corruption in the United States that confounded our ability to Confront this? Because Dr. Fauci, I remember early in the pandemic was making excuses for China, saying they were being great partners. The World Health Organization was entirely controlled by China. Their leader was hand selected by China, and they made excuses for the Chinese throughout the beginning of all of this. How much is Chinese corruption a factor in this?

David Asher (50:16)

Well, I don't think it's corruption. I think it's actually covert action. I've run several major covert action programs in my career against foreign adversaries. And what the Chinese are doing here is it goes beyond co optation of individuals, it's systematic, it's top down and it's being controlled through a wide network of individuals, institutions. They're using money as a tool to entrap people. And that's a classic intelligence operations technique that all of us who worked in intel were taught when we were going through our school years. This is, this, this, they, they entrap the nih. And they entrapped the, the scientists around the world with the, with, with the lure of being able to go to China, you know, earn miles, stay at fancy hotels and receive tens of millions of dollars, not hundreds of millions of dollars in grants. And then they entrant the, the National Institutes of Health itself by encouraging it to basically promote what's called a Thousand Talents program. NIH on its website even today, I believe still has a webpage that's promoting the Thousand Talents program for China, which is a recruitment for their intelligence service. I mean, the silly season has not ended and we've got to, we still have to make an effort to bring this whole wall of China that's confronting basically public health system down. I mean, let's not forget though, I worked on a lot of other stuff related to China at State in the last year. I mean, the biggest cyber operations in history that attacked our phone system, attacked our logistics system, attacked our banking system, Salt bolt, silk typhoon, these are the largest attacks in history. What have we done to respond? Actually, nothing, you know, what have we done to respond to Covid? Until now, nothing. But I have hope that there'll be a response. Finally, the President really wants to have a good relation with Xi Jinping, but he needs to realize to have a good relationship with the Chinese, you got to have a relationship based on coercion. The same way they approach us. I mean, in the Art of the Deal, he actually extensively talks about that. I hope he just, you know, rereads his own great book before he goes and meets with Xi, because these people are arch manipulators of our own gullibility.

Vince (52:48)

The President realizes that strength is leverage. I mean, that an adversary like Xi Jinping will respect strength when President Trump demonstrates this. I think you're right about that. Lastly, I know you've got a busy day today. David Asher. We talk about these indictments for Covid. What are the chances, you think that we get more of them quite quickly? What do you, what do you anticipate here?

David Asher (53:11)

I mean, this guy Barrack, who is really the central conspirator as a scientist, he's the guy who, who is, who mastered the ability to edit the, the coronavirus genome and, and synthesize it. I mean, he's been basically fired, it looks like, from the University of North Carolina where he's been their all star scientist for decades. For some reason, you gotta, you gotta assume it's tied in. It happened on the same day as the Morin's indictment was unveiled. So, you know, logically it would seem that it's likely that he's tied into it.

Vince (53:45)

In other words, there's very likely a sealed indictment into him and he, it

David Asher (53:49)

would seem that way just based on. It'd be a hell of a coincidence if it's not, you know, and then, you know, you've got a network of individuals, you know, including people inside the government. We've had six whistleblowers from CIA who've come forward to the Senate and House Intelligence Committee about the fact that they were under Biden were given bonuses for basically changing their view on the origin of COVID from moderate to high confidence that it was lab born and came out of an accident in China to. It came out of nature. I mean, like this thing, this thing's going to go to a very high level, including up to President Biden himself, I'm pretty confident, which is why he pardoned his whole family. And you know, he, he pardoned himself. He wasn't dying, you know, so this is, you know, I think this, we're heading towards a sort of Daniel Mon maybe here finally, and thank God for it. It's just five years too late.

Vince (54:48)

Yeah. It's one of the biggest events of our entire lives. And I think it was the. Even with James Comey being prosecuted yesterday, I think that the David Moren's prosecution was. Was the biggest story of Justice Department accountability and an important one we desperately need. David Asher, thank you very much for your time. We could definitely talk for hours we have in the past, and I'll definitely have you back. Thank you, sir.

David Asher (55:07)

Thank you, Vince. You're the best.

Vince (55:09)

David Asher with the Hudson Institute. The guy's been right at the center of investigating all of this. And. Yeah, isn't he great? Fooey 50 said excellent, intelligent guest. Yeah, David's great because he's got this wonderful knowledge and wonderful insight and an unfortunate front row seat to all of this chaos. And we really appreciate him and his wisdom today. Okay. Yes. So, look, this comes down to the United States Department of Justice and, and what they're up to. I will stand by what I said before. I'm very encouraged here by Todd Blanche. I think that these guys have a lot underway and more to come. More to come. And the big one that you and I are waiting for, I would say, is the grand conspiracy case. What we're kind of keeping an eye on South Florida. And to what extent, when do we see the big prosecution of John Brennan, the former CIA director? Does James Comey get pulled into that prosecution as well? Because a grand conspiracy is not conducted by one person. You don't conspire by yourself. You know, this is not a case of going after schizophrenics. This is going after people, a team of people. And if you're going after Brennan for a grand conspiracy against the president involving, say, the Trump Russia collusion hoax and the Steele dossier and the intelligence community assessment and lying about jamming that phony Steele dossier drafted by Hillary Clinton's campaign directly into all of that. Well, that's John Brennan and James Comey. The public record on that has been super clear. So you have a grand jury that's been sending out these, these subpoenas and they've sent out hundreds of them on the list. We know Brennan, Comey, you've got Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, all these familiar names that, that you and I have been so deeply concerned about for their abuses of power through the years, right at the center of that case. I don't think Todd Blanche is going to tap the brakes here. I don't think at all. I think one of the other elements, if my instincts are correct, I think one of the things that he's running into is this institutional resistance to doing things that Trump wants. And what I mean by that is things that Trump voters want. Fundamentally, we want justice, but it's not always fashionable in the leadership class to pursue justice on behalf of what the American people want. It's, it's a, it's a, it's a big club and we ain't in. It is usually the way we assess this, as George Carlin might say, and, you know, like guys like Comey, they don't get prosecuted, they don't have to be subjected to this kind of accountability. And so what's probably happening inside of the Justice Department is lower level prosecutors, career prosecutors, who have kind of envisioned themselves as, you know, little protectors of the ruling class, not that interested in holding those people accountable, worried about what this might do to their career in the future. If I go after the wrong person's friend, well, that's stymie my professional advancement. They've resisted oftentimes going after people like James Comey or John Brennan. They don't want to do it because they're afraid of what it's going to do to their relationships and their career advancement. You've gotta break that. You gotta bring in outsiders. You gotta bring in somebody like Todd Blanche, who's been on the President's defense team on the receiving end of this kind of tyranny and doesn't wanna suffer any kind of institutional fools who are looking to protect the kind of rot that would lead America fully towards destruction. So he's breaking this. That's a great sign. And he should keep doing that. My sense is, I'm watching this. I think what's happening is he's grabbing these lower level prosecutors by the shirt collars and going, get off your ass. You've got the case. Bring it. Stop trying to slow walk this to death because you're afraid you're going to suffer some sort of personal blowback if you don't act to restore justice in our country right now, we're not going to have a country for you to have a career in. So get your ass up there and prosecute these guys. That's the message. And I think it's, I think it's effective. I think it's going through. So we'll see more of these. We'll see more of these. I can't imagine just watching what we saw in the last week that this is anywhere near the end. So we'll keep on it as always. As always. And Zeke Zeke, my buddy says fire Thune as well. Yeah, let's fire soon. I agree. Let's get a new leader. Let's get a new leader in the Senate, somebody who can actually pass simple things like, what is it, voter integrity. We'll keep covering it all. I've got the big national radio show coming up today, the VIN Show.com for your local radio listings. We also do this live on rumble. Rumble.com Vince the the nice thing today on a day where I'm talking about the Justice Department and the FBI, the great Dan Bongino is joining me on the radio show today. Don't miss that. Don't miss that. Dan loves stopping by the show. We're going to have him on the program. It's going to be wonderful. Speaking of Dan, he's got his, his mighty podcast coming up today. That's coming up@rumble.com Bongino 10am Eastern Time. Very eager to hear what he has to say there. And then Haley Caronia's got her amazing show. Rumble.com Haley why with two. Sorry, Haley with two whys. Why? Because she is amazing. Rumble.com Haley she's on noon Eastern time only on Rumble Live on Rumble. She's great and you're great. Appreciate you being with us as always. We'll have another epic show for you tomorrow, I promise. Can't wait to do it.

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