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Everybody, welcome to Vince on a Wednesday. Great to have you with us as always. We're going to dive into the latest today on the push to get the SAVE act across the finish line. You know, there are United States senators who don't even actually know the rules of the Senate. They had to be given an instructional class yesterday at the Senate. I, I'll explain the latest on that subject and, and our efforts to get this across the finish line. We've got a list of names, the good guys right now who are joining in the fight to get the same act passed. I'll, I'll share that with you. What I'm hearing from the United States Senate as well. Also, I was able to get a question in to the White House yesterday about all of this. We have a lot to discuss on that front. And then when it comes to immigration enforcement, we've had a big hearing yesterday in the United States Congress where you get all of the top immigration enforcers appearing before these House members. Republicans for the most part, asking perfectly decent questions. Democrats, hair on fire, insanity. I've got the details on all of that ahead on our program. And then some late breaking developments overnight in the search for Nancy Guthrie. A flurry of activity yesterday as a case that really wasn't moving anywhere for over a week has now suddenly got a lot of action on it. I've got the details all ahead on this edition of Vince, so great to have you with us as always, appreciate you, appreciate you and our great sponsors. You know, that includes Beams, Dream Powder. I love Beam. Beam's great. Beam helps me sleep. They really do. February is a great month for a million different reasons and it's a short month. We get through it really quickly. February has got a way of separating the good intentions from real habits. 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So with my discount code, this Vince show, you can get their bestselling dream powder. Just 39 bucks. Go to shop beam.comvinshow. What a day. What a day. What a day. Yeah. Okay, so programming note for you tomorrow on the program, the great Sean Farish is filling in for me. If you treat him nicely, by the way, live chat, he might do the Trump impression for you. So that's the key. Treat him nice and he's going to do a good job. Yeah, no, he'll do wonderful. Sean's fantastic. So you'll see Sean on the program tomorrow, Thursday. That's because that's recovery day for me. I'm doing a surgery this afternoon. We'll, we'll do it real fast. It'll be fine. My wife says, take the day off the next day. I said, okay, fine. So that's what's going on. I'll be back Friday. I'll be back Friday on, on all the shows. It'll be great. It'll be really great. And thank you for everybody who's, you know, sending me prayers and all sorts of kind thoughts. Thank you for that. I appreciate you as always. Let's see, what do we got going on in the world right now? Well, the big thing that you and I have been pushing so hard for, I feel like this is a meeting where we all get together to talk to plot the latest push to get the SAVE act through. We're talking about the SAVE Act a lot. And there's a reason for that, because we are convinced that there is some possibility that this thing can get across the finish line. And also, we sort of love our country. So we really want things to come to come to pass that actually help us make it great again. As a famous president once said, that's what we want. And so yesterday in the United States Senate, Mike Lee, who has been, well, he's been a standout candidly on this fight. He's the, he's the key sponsor in the Senate for the SAVE Act. He has been a part of this push to get these US Senators to actually enforce the rules of the Senate. In other words, just get everybody to do a standing filibuster, bring everybody to the floor, force the Democrats to verbally filibuster this thing. And then when they get all tuckered out, throw them out of the room and vote to pass the SAVE act to get it across the finish line. But here's the problem. And I, and I said, I've said this on other shows and I just want to once again re emphasize a detail. There are United States senators who don't even know what the rules of the Senate are. They didn't even know that this power was available to them and that it's been available to them as long as the Senate's been around. They didn't know that all they needed to do was go to the floor, establish a quorum and pass this. This is how sclerotic and sort of wasted away the Senate is that they don't even know what powers they have access to anymore. They've spent so little time doing the actual job that they think that not doing the job is what the job description is. It's not. And the reason I can say this with some confidence is because Mike Lee gives this presentation yesterday at the Senate lunch and you've got, according to reports from places like Punchbowl, which are a, it's a congressional reporting operation, they say that the Republicans that were in the room who didn't even know how any of it works. What? This is crazy. Listen to this. This is Andrew Desiderio with Punchbowl. He said the following on X yesterday. Lately. Late yesterday at the Senate Republican lunch, Senator Mike Lee gave a presentation about the SAVE Act. Robert Duncan, Thune's floor secretary, John Thune's floor secretary, gave an overview of how the talking filibuster would work. Well, that's promising. I'm glad to see Thune's people are involved in this conversation. Andrew says that it was mostly informational and according to one attendee, so one would assume when you say attendee, you mean a Republican senator, quote, nobody really knows how this stuff works. Nobody knows. It's, it's built into the Senate. This is Schoolhouse Rock stuff. What? You don't know how it works? This is maddening, but we're going to have to drag them across the finish line and tell them how to operate inside of their own congressional body. Yes. Senate Republicans all got together yesterday to discuss the SAVE Act. They're in the talking filibuster, which is good. They still don't have enough support within the conference to go down that route right now to circumvote the 60 vote threshold according to this Punchbowl reporter. In other words, they don't even have the simple majority support yet to get this thing across the finish line. Now, the fact that they're even doing this at all is a sign of your success. The fact that these Republicans are gathering right now is because the pressure that you are placing on the Senate right now is working. It's clearly working to the point that they're freaking out about it, trying to figure out what do we do, how do the rules even work. They're getting briefings from John Phoon's guy. Mike Lee is trying to teach everybody about this. So it's not that the conversation is being ignored, it's that it can't be ignored. So right now they're trying to figure out how do the, how do we contend with our own base that desperately wants to get this across the finish line? Mike Lee offered us an update just ahead of the lunch yesterday and hopefully we can get some more updates on, on the list here. But he gives us the list. You ready for the list? I'm sure you guys love lists. You love the names to know who's on my side, who's against me. Let's just cut right to the chase. Okay, let's cut to the chase. Here's the current Senate sponsor and co sponsor list for the Save America Act. That was as of just before lunchtime yesterday. There are now 38 co sponsors for the Save America act, which means we're still short. We need to get to 50. But here we are right now. It's Banks, Barrasso, Blackburn, Boozman, Brit, Bud, Corn and Cotton, Kramer, Crapo, Cruz, Danes, Fisher, Graham, Haggerty, Holly, Hoven, Husted, Johnson, Justice, Lankford, lee, Loomis, Marshall, McCormick, Moody, Moran, Moreno, Mullen, Paul, Ricketts, Rounds, Rick Scott, Rish, Schmidt, Sheehy, Tuberville and Young. By the way, where's Tim Scott? I see R. Scott. I don't see T. Scott or F. Scott Fitzgerald for that matter. But he's not a senator. Okay, so we've got a lot of, we've got a lot of names, but we need more. Mike Lee says we continue to add more, more every day and hope to be at or above 50 by the end of this week. By the end of this week. So that's Mike Lee. Sounds like a little optimistic, but this is good. Keep giving us the names. I love this. I love like not having this cover of darkness nonsense where, you know, because a lot of what happens in the Senate candidly is they just basically hope you forget about it, that you get worn out, that your filibuster ends, that you stop paying attention and Then they can move on to other things. But no, we're going to continue the filibuster until you get this thing across the finish line. I use that expression a lot. Get this across the finish line. I should. I should add some variation there. So who's against this thing? Who's. Who's coming out against it? Well, Lisa freaking Murkowski has come out against it. It's not a surprise, but it is appalling that Lisa Murkowski is against this. And she announced yesterday. She. She put out a statement on this subject, which is insane. Oh, I. Oh, Oh, I. Oh, I love this. Oh, my gosh. This is even better than I realized. All right, here we go. Lisa Murkowski comes out against the SAVE Act. And here's what she said. She said, when Democrats attempted to advance sweeping election reform in 2021, Republicans were unanimous in opposition because it would have federalized elections. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to unpack the duplicity of all of this. Just bear with me. She said Republicans were unanimous in opposing. This is Nancy Pelosi's for the people act in 2021 because it would have federalized elections, something we have long opposed. Now I'm seeing proposals such as the SAVE act and MEGA that would effectively do just that. Once again, I do not support these efforts. Not only does the US Constitution clearly provide states the authority to regulate the times, places, and manner of holding federal elections, but one size fits all mandates from Washington, D.C. seldom work in places like Alaska. Election day is fast approaching. Imposing new federal requirements. Now, when states are deep into their preparations to would negatively impact election integrity by forcing election officials to scramble to adhere to new policies, likely without the necessary resources. Ensuring public trust in our elections is at the core of our democracy. But federal overreach is not how we achieve this. End of statement. That's it. So Lisa Murkowski comes out and she says a couple of things. She says, well, in 21, we were against Nancy Pelosi federalizing elections, so we should be against that. Now. This is bull crap. This is utter garbage. Let's do a fact check here. Because she says, well, the Constitution tells us that really it's. The states clearly provides states the authority to regulate the times, places, and manner of holding elections. Hmm. All right, so here's the fact check. False. The plain text of the Constitution, which I have to keep reminding actual members of Congress of every passing day. The plain text of the Constitution, the Article 1, Section 4, Clause 1, says that Congress may at any time, by law, make or alter such regulations except as to the places of choosing senators. In other words, Congress can get involved in how elections are administered when necessary. In fact, this inclusion in the Constitution was heavily debated when the Federalists were advocating for the Constitution to be passed. At the time in the Federalist Papers, Alexander Hamilton, writing under the name Publius, said that this was essential to the preservation of the Republic. This had to be done. Let me just show you. This is federalist59. I can't look at this. I got to do a history lesson. I got to teach Lisa Murkowski about our country. You ready? This is. Look at this. So in Federalist 59, it references this detail that the United States Congress may at any time by law, make or alter such regulations. Okay, now why is that in the Constitution at all? Hamilton says. He goes, I'm that the reason for this is that this is one of the most important inclusions in the entire Constitution. Its propriety rests upon the evidence of this plain proposition that every government ought to contain in itself the means of its own preservation. Let me put that differently. In other words, if the states start to become completely out of control, if they're just rigging all of their elections and they're trying to upend national governance, the people of the United States, the rest of us, have to have a means to get everything back under control. And that would be Congress intervening. So that's what Alexander Hamilton is talking about here. He goes on. He says, this is. This is probably one of my favorite lines actually, from this Federalist paper. He says, nothing can be more evident than that an exclusive power of regulating elections for the national government in the hands of state legislatures would leave the existence of the Union entirely at their mercy. They could at any moment annihilate it by neglecting to provide for the choice of persons to administer its affairs. If the states rig their elections. Let me put this more bluntly. If Democrats are rigging elections in the states that they control across our country, they could, quote, annihilate our Union. Hamilton said. In other words, he mounted a ferocious argument on behalf of Congress playing a role here. Is the state supposed to administer the election? Yeah, they're supposed to set it up correctly. But if they screw it up, we have to have a means to step in. And finally, here's what he also says. I want to make. I want to jump to this part. This is the very end of this Federalist paper. With so effectual a weapon in their hands as the exclusive power of regulating elections for the national government, a combination of a Few such men in a few of the most considerable states where the temptation will always be the strongest. Think states like New York, California, Democrat run states. Massive populations might accomplish the destruction of the Union by seizing the opportunity of some casual dissatisfaction among the people in which perhaps they may have themselves excited. Does this sound familiar at all? Democrats whipping people into a frenzy to justify rigging elections, to justify removing their political opponents from ballots, prosecuting them, attempting to disqualify Donald Trump entirely from elective politics, to discontinue the choices of members for the federal House of Representatives. It ought never to be forgotten that a firm union of this country under an efficient government will probably be an increasing object of jealousy to more than one nation of Europe. Hamilton said of Europe at the time. Now we can say safely of the entire world and that enterprises to subvert it will sometimes originate in the intrigues of foreign powers and will seldom fail to be patronized and abetted by some of them. He goes on to say, of course, this is why we need the people of the United States to protect our elections. Now, what is Hamilton talking about here when he says that these foreign powers are going to meddle in our elections? He's talking about these countries that will seek to undermine us. They're going to try and interfere. They're going to try and find gaps in our election system to interfere with us. Is that happening at all? Well, I don't know. Do you have foreign countries who are delivering their citizens to our country to have babies in order to, as far as you and I are concerned, unconstitutionally make them American citizens and then subsequently perpetually interfere in our elections? That's definitely happening is do you have Chinese connected billionaires who are sowing discord in the United States by funding some of the insurgencies we're seeing in places like Minnesota right now? That's definitely happening. Are there foreign adversaries like, say, Iran, China, Russia, who do seek to interfere in our elections, and we should seek to do what we can to safeguard against any sort of foreign interference whatsoever? Those things are definitely happening. In other words, Hamilton detected brilliantly, as usual, what was to come if we didn't protect our union. And for Murkowski, I can't believe this is all starting from a Lisa Murkowski tweet, but I'm going to educate this woman. We're going to teach her how this all actually works. Murkowski to come out and say, back in 2021, I opposed. Republicans opposed. Unanimous in opposition. Unanimous in opposition to Nancy Pelosi's Efforts to federalize elections. There are two massively dishonest points being made here. Massively dishonest. Pelosi's efforts to interfere in the elections in 2021 were not designed, as Hamilton would have, to safeguard the election. Instead, they were designed to make the election less secure, less credible, less believable because Nancy Pelosi was attempting to rig the election. Now, I've showed this op ed before, but it bears repeating, especially if you're the. If this is the first time you're seeing this, or certainly it's so we can condense all of this together. But this is what the Wall Street Journal said at the time about Nancy Pelosi's push to federalize elections for real. She wanted to make every election like 2020. It's called HR1, and it was packed with garbage. HR1 is packed with provisions. The the article says that would federalize election rules to dubious result, unsettled, longstanding practices and security measures that local officials think are prudent, undermine public confidence and increase the odds of contested outcomes. It would have made mail in ballots the rule of the land. No excuse necessary. You don't have to prove your ID anywhere. Ballots could be taken 10 days after election Day. You can't get your ballot in on time. So 10 days after election Day, we still wouldn't know the result of an election until well after a week beyond election Day. The whole thing is crazy. Designed wide open to fraud. Fraud. So of course Republicans should have opposed that in 2021, but they didn't unanimously oppose it. Despite what Lisa Murkowski is claiming. This is what this is the new addition this morning that I think is so funny. I didn't realize this until we started the program. You ready for the community Note on Lisa Murkowski's ridiculous statement. Readers added context on X. Senator Murkowski voted to advance the 2021 voter reforms that she references here. She was the only Republican to do so. Murkowski voted for it. So in her lies about the Constitution, in her lies about what Republicans who actually care about this country are attempting to do, in her lies about what you and I want to achieve for our country, she lies about her own role. She supported pushing Nancy Pelosi's election takeover in 2021. Oh, my goodness, Alaska. First of all, get rid of ranked choice voting. Second, get rid of Lisa Murkowski. Please give us a real Republican conservative senator from that state. Please, I beg of you. Much more to come here on the program. A lot more to come. Was that okay? Chad? Do you mind going through the Federalist Papers? I know it's not the biggest podcast thing to do. Everyone's like, you know, was it, we got, oh, this is a crazy thing. You got to watch this wild video. Now I'm going to take you through the Federalist Papers because, you know, the founders kind of had a vision and I'd like to restore it to the extent that's even possible. We'd like to restore it. I think I'd like to do that. Yeah, Anyway. That's exactly right. Oh, my gosh. Thank you. People like it. All right, good. All right, good, good, good. Just making sure. Yeah. I mean, because when people come at you and they're like, the federal government's not supposed to have any role in elections. Hold on a second now. You're like Mr. States Rights, you, You deceitful little Democrat. It's like, it's also crazy. It's all power play for these guys. And Lisa Murkowski is a sucker for playing along with it. A sucker. All right, a lot more to get to. Hey, I want to thank the great operation over at Patriot Mobile that loves our country, truly loves our country. And, you know, every day Americans have to make choices that shape our country's future, right down to which cell phone provider we support. Here's what a lot of people don't even realize. Patriot Mobile is not just a wireless provider. They're a Christian conservative organization that sells top tier cell phone service. 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Okay, so Elon Musk has jumped in here too. He says, you know, Lisa Murkowski is ridiculous. He doesn't use those words. But, but those are my words. I'm summarizing Elon here. He says without election integrity, we don't live in a democracy. Now go ahead. You can quibble with his use of the word democracy. Fine, it's a constitutional republic. But the point is well taken. Without election integrity, we don't live in a constitutional republic. That point is true. If you don't have election integrity, you don't have the voice of the people guiding our governance, which is what the founder set up. So Elon Musk is right. I'm glad to see Elon jumping into this fight as well. Now, I was able to, you know, I say I Reagan Reese, my White House correspondent, Reagan Reese was able to ask the White House about this yesterday, not about Murkowski, but about the SAVE Act. What are the conversations like right now? You know, we've seen, I told you earlier this week that House Republicans apparently have been hesitating on mail in ballots and restricting those mail in ballots, not hesitating on the mail in ballots, but hesitating on restricting them to only legitimate absentee ballots. And Reagan, on behalf of this audience and Americans who love our country everywhere, ask the White House press secretary about the status of those negotiations with Republicans and where President Trump is right now on the SAVE Act. Here's Reagan yesterday.