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Nut-Job Judge APOLOGIZES To The WHCD Shooter | Episode 282
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A D.C. magistrate judge stunned observers by apologizing to WHCA shooting suspect Cole Allen over harsh jail conditions; chaos erupts near the White House as an armed suspect exchanged gunfire with Secret Service; investigators spotlight a massive Medicaid fraud scheme tied to dozens of suspicious “home health” companies in Ohio, prompting JD Vance to order immediate action; Daily Wire investigative reporter Luke Rosiak joins the show!
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Everybody, welcome to Vids on a Tuesday. It's great to have you with us as always. It's Cinco, Cinco de Mayo. And remember everybody, Trump Tower has the best taco bowls anywhere. We love the Hispanics. Good morning. Good morning. Great to be with you. As always. We've got a big show ahead for you. We got to get into a psycho judge just told the guy who tried to kill the President of the United States sorry for your jail conditions where we're trying to keep you alive. What we'll get into the idiocy there. Also, I've got some election updates for you, including some very good news about the efforts to stop the left selection rigging. We just keep getting, I love sharing with you good news on that subject that's coming up on the program. And we're going to be joined by the incredible Luke Rosiak. What an amazing reporter from the Daily Wire. This guy has a very important story on the ongoing fraud in the United States as people keep staging stealing money from you and it looks like he found a whole bunch of it in Ohio. And it's caught the attention of the Vice President of the United States, the guy who handles going after all of this fraud. We're going to, we're going to tackle that. That's all coming up on the program. Good morning. Good morning. Look at that. Everybody in the chat for Taco Tuesday. Isn't it nice that Senko falls on Taco Tuesday this year? It's perfect for America 250. It's wonderful. It's really, it's really cool stuff. Want to thank the great sponsors who make this show possible. Patriot Mobile. Thank you Patriot Mobile. Thanks for being great. Thanks for giving me great cell phone service. This year marks a critical moment for our country as the opposition is growing so much more aggressive and unapologetic. The fight now reaches into the everyday decisions that we all make. 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Go to patriot mobile.com vince or call 972 Patriot and use the promo code Vince for a free month of service. Don't wait. That's patriot mobile.com vince, or call 972-patriot. Yeah, we doing the tacos. We're doing the tacos tonight. We're going to do that Taco Tuesday. Uh, it's going to be super exciting. Uh, in fact, I have to get the tequila. I'm going to have to get the tequila. You know, Dan got me on the tequila. That's. This is one of the great things Dan has given my life. Dan Bongino, like, like, you should try tequila. And I was like, okay, I'm just, I'm just kidding. For those who it's, it's just fine. In everything, in moderation. Everything's just fine. All right, let's, let's get into this. This crazy judge who's been drinking on the job, apparently yesterday. You get this guy, call Allen, the suspect in the White House Correspondents dinner shooting call. Allen appears for another court appearance. And while he's there, Yesterday in this D.C. court, the judge, the magistrate judge called Zia Faroquay. Zia Faroquay. It's a good, it's a good Irish name. Huh? Said he is, quote, fascinated and disturbed by Cole Allen's treatment in the D.C. jail. I'm sorry, come again? What's the problem with his treatment in the jail? Why I have to get worked up about this guy's treatment in the DC jail? Now tell me why, Mr. Judge Faroquai. What are you talking about? Here we go. Fox News with the report. New judge apologizes in court. The White House Correspondents association dinner shooting suspect. Call Allen. Magistrate Judge Zia Faroquai said that he was, quote, fascinated and disturbed by Allen's treatment in jail. Allen was placed on suicide watch when he was first imprisoned. Prosecutors argued that since Allen told investigators he didn't expect to survive the alleged attack, he could be a danger to himself. Well, that makes a lot of sense. Actually, that makes a lot of sense. Before we get to this loopy judge's assessment here, this left wing lunatic, the United States Department of Justice is right to assess that Cole Allen was ready to kill himself by cop chat. You familiar with this expression, death by cop, suicide by cop? Have you heard this before? Yeah, of course. Suicide by cop. The guy thought he was going to run in and get gunned down. Now the Secret Service, remember, they fired five shots at the guy. They missed all of them. So the guy trips and they tackle him, they get him into custody with no bullet wounds. And now he can stand trial, which I think is a good thing because I'd like to see this guy stand trial. I'd like to see him testify, I'd like to see this all televised. I'd like to see this case brought before the American public to show the whole country what the left has created. This is another weak and vicious left wing lunatic inspired by people like Ted Roux and Hakeem Jeffries to take up arms against the President of the United States. I want that fully on display for the American people. It's a good thing this guy's in custody and they've got him on suicide watch because it's pretty obvious he thought he was going to get killed by virtue of his own actions, which we would call a suicide. You go running in there with guns expecting to be gunned down to death, that's suicide by cop. It's not a new concept. A lot of deranged people have attempted this, have undertaken this and call Allen was just the latest. So when the DOJ goes, yeah, this guy seems suicidal, they're right, they're right about this. He thought it was all done about a week ago. Instead, it looks like he's going to spend the rest of his life behind bars. Keep him alive so he can stand trial. What happens after that I don't really care that much about, but keep him alive so he can stand trial. And so the judge here is for some reason, you know, upset that this guy is being held on suicide watch. I was like, on what basis? You seem totally rational to me, says the judge, an incredulous Faroqui was not convinced by the argument that he is suicidal. Drawing comparisons between Allen and defendants arrested for rioting at the Capitol on January 6th of 2021. Listen to this quote. To me, it's extremely disturbing that he was put in five point restraints, a person with no criminal history. It's troubling, says the nut job judge. I've never heard of one 1-6-oddant who was put in a 5 point restraint or in a safe cell. If the only way to keep him safe is the most punitive thing, that's a problem, says the judge. At a minimum, I should be apologizing to him. We are obligated to make sure he's taken care of. Mr. Allen, I'm sorry that things have not been the way they are supposed to. This son of a bitch. Here you have this judge apologizing to the man who tried to assassinate every one of the highest level officials in our government. He wrote in his manifesto that he wanted to kill every single ranking official he could, to include the President of the United States, which is why he now stands credibly charged with attempting to assassinate the President of the United States, which would engage in. Which would. Which would invoke a life sentence upon guilt. And this judge is apologizing to him for his treatment. I don't know, Chad, don't you kind of feel like the treatment here has been pretty generous? The guy's alive, isn't he? They didn't kill him when he rushed into the room, shooting his shotgun directly into the chest of Secret Service agents. In fact, through a combination of fortune and goodwill that I'd say the Trump administration has been pretty generous to this guy. He's still alive. He's got no bullet holes in him. He's in custody. They're keeping him in a padded room. They're keeping him safe for his own protection. They're keeping him alive. I'm sorry, what did I miss? What did I miss? It seems like Trump people are being overly generous with this guy. And this judge is apologizing. No. Now, of course, the judge is telling on himself. That's what's happening. The reason he's apologizing is because he's a left wing lunatic, too, but he's wearing judicial robes and he's sorry that his buddy has to go through this, which is awful. It's just awful. How could you even begin to do this? And yet that's what that judge is doing. And Kyle Cheney at Politico, he's a reporter over there, he dug in on this, too. He had a big thread on this yesterday that I was. That I first saw on the subject, talking about how Judge Faroquay is extremely concerned about call Allen. And the general counsel for the D.C. jail said that Allen's placement has been based on an ongoing psychiatric evaluation. In other words, the DC Jail has been assessing him. Like, we should probably keep this guy in protective custody. We should keep him in this situation where he's kept alive. Suicide watch. But this thing about, oh, he's just like a 1-6- defendant and yet he's not being treated the same way. Like, what? What are you talking about? Faroquay was hammering the January 6th comparison. He says he spent, quote, four years, quote, watching What I would say seems to be analogous conduct. Analogous conduct? People allegedly trying to harm elected officials based on their political beliefs. The way that things are playing out for Allen is vastly different. Yeah, because the January six people didn't take up arms against the government. The January six people didn't bring guns to the so called insurrection. The January six people weren't firing shotguns into the chests of police officers. This is not analogous in any way. You psychopath. Why are you wearing judicial robes? Why are you sitting on a court at all? You're a psycho. You're a psycho. Yeah. Lord Farquaad. Lord Farquaad has no idea what he's talking about. Analogous. This is how demented the left has become. The fact that it's become an article of faith, including from a judge who should know better that January 6th was this, you know, gun toting, violent, murderous insurrection. That's just Lord Farquaad level nonsense coming out of Lord Farquhar stupid face as yesterday he's apologizing to call Allen that he's being kept alive. What a bunch of psychopaths. You want to talk about the rot in our system? It's on display yesterday. As for the January 6th defendants, the guys who were in the very same DC jail that Carl Allen is being held in, the very same D.C. jail. Those January 6th defendants were treated like utter crap and they were kept there forever. They were kept there for a very long time. In fact, they finally started getting some attention in 2022. October of 2022, long after the events of January 6, 2021, there was a headline in NPR about their treatment and it said January 6th detainees say a DC jail is so awful they would like a transfer to Guantanamo. That's how they were treated. This guy call Allen. They're like fluffing his pillows over there. Lord Farquaad wants to make sure that he's got the air conditioner set at the perfect temperature. Meanwhile, January six detainees could barely get any attention for what happened to them. Dozens of individuals in Washington's D.C. jail on charges related to the January 20, January 6, 2021. This is NPR. Insurrection is the way they wrote it at the U.S. capitol and have submitted a handwritten letter to a federal court demanding to be moved to Guantanamo Bay. The detainees say they're living in inhumane conditions. The seven page letter which was reviewed by NPR was signed by 34 defendants and was submitted as a part of a response to the government for its denial of alleged Capitol rider Ryan Nichols. Pretrial release. Nichols is facing multiple charges the individuals who signed off on the letter included David Dempsey, who they say allegedly used a chemical spray as well as a crutch, a metal pole against police officers, and Ronald Sandlin, who was accused of assaulting police. The detainees listed several issues. The conditions allegedly included no religious services or visitations, black mold and worms on the jail's walls end in the food, abuse by guards, and vaccine requirements for visits and other services. They also say their clothing that's been sent to the laundry is returned covered in brown stains and pubic care and. Or reeking of ripe urine, and say they've lost eyesight and hair because of malnourishment. In fact, some of the January 6th defendants actually did commit suicide because of their horrific treatment at the hands of a tyrannical government. And yet now we're trying to get this guy off of suicide watch for what? Keep him alive for trial. Keep him alive for trial. In fact, you'll remember the D.C. the January 6th detainees that were inside of that D.C. jail. One of the now most famous things that they did while they were in that jail each night was they would sing the national anthem before bed. They would sing the national anthem. And at one point, the sound of them singing the national anthem was captured by over the phone in the jail, recorded, and then turned into what we now know as the January 6th choir. In fact, the President of the United States joined it by saying the Pledge of Allegiance over it, and then in the 2024 campaign, played it from rally stages before he would go on to give pardons to all of the January 6th defendants upon arriving in office. In fact, here is for your listening pleasure. The President of the United states in the Jan. 6 choir played in its totality. This was back during the March 2024 campaign rally for the President. Now again, the President of the United States. Cut one. I was so proudly we. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands, One nation under God, Indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Amazing. Amazing to this very day. Emotional. Emotional. And those guys were treated like garbage. And yet they endured. And yet they sang the national anthem every night. Treated like utter garbage. And remember, regardless of what you think of people who broke windows went into the building on January 6th of 2021. The underlying spirit of all of that was people who desperately wanted to see their country held together, their constitutional republic upheld, the Constitution adhered to elections to be credible. What Cole Allen was attempting to do this past week when he tried to murder the president of the United States was tear down our constitutional republic, put us into utter chaos. And this is what Judge Farquhad is standing up for. He's standing up for the agent of chaos, trying to bring him comfort for his chaotic behavior. The Trump Justice Department is handling this the correct way, is handling this the correct way. And it is, it's just sad to see that we still have so much rot inside of our establishments that needs to be cleaned up still. Now, Jeanine Pirro is the U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C. she's great. We know her as Judge Jeanine now, U.S. attorney Janine Pirro. And she said the following about Judge Farquhad's behavior yesterday. She said, welcome to Washington, D.C. where U.S. magistrate Judge Lord Farquaad. Just kidding, she said. Faroquay. U.S. magistrate Judge Faroquay believes a defendant armed to the teeth and attempting to assassinate the president is entitled to preferential treatment in his confinement compared to every other defendant. That's what we're dealing with even in the nation's capital. And there, if you're watching rumble.com Vince, there's the judge, there's Lord Farquaad right there. And there's the defendant, there's the suspect. There is Cole Allen, the man who dressed up like some sort of I don't know what he dressed up as. Just a weirdo. Just in his Rambo military equipment and his goofy black shirt and red tie decided to rush the president of the United States with a shotgun. And this judge is worried that he doesn't have the most comfortable bed in the whole jail. It's outrageous. So just an update on what exactly is going on there. We've, we've got a lot more to get to coming up. Actually. There was an armed man yesterday who fired on the Secret Service near the White House. I've got a brief update on that subject because the threats to the president and the vice president continue. It's all ahead on this edition of Vince. And then, of course, Luke Rosiak is just minutes away. Can't wait to chat with him about everything he's up to. But first, let me tell you about one of our great sponsors, Bone Charge. Bone Charge is a great, great, great sponsor of our program. And thanks to Bon Charge, I've got the infrared sauna blanket. And Allison, my wife, has the red light face mask. And ever since we had these added to our lives, we can't recommend them enough. We love them. We love them. The sauna blanket is great because it helps with muscle recovery, detoxification. It's A game changer. It's really nice to have a sauna in the house. And all I do is wrap myself up in it, let the infrared heat work its magic, and it's created a huge difference for me. It helps me relax, helps me rejuvenate, helps. I just feel a lot better afterwards. 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All right. So M. Myers 0313 says, God bless America. God bless America. I totally agree with you. Oh, by the way, the reason I wanted to play the entire national anthem, not just because I love it. I do love this Tar Spangled Banner. But it was years ago when I first started in radio in Washington, D.C. we had a board out by the name of Mike McKay. The late, great Mike McKay. He's a Vietnam veteran. He was a medic in Vietnam. Just an amazing man. Just an amazing man. And he told me very early in radio that if we ever played clips of the Star Spangled Banner, that it was good form to play them in their entirety. Not to play truncated versions of the clips, that instead, you should play them in their entirety. So ever since then, I've always adhered to that guidance. I've always thought that that was the right way to do it. You know, I try not to play the national anthem without playing it entire in its entirety. So that's why we did that today. Just so. Just so you know. But, yeah, no, it is. I agree with you, Cynthia. Cynthia says she cries every time she hears those guys singing the anthem. I. I Get, I get emotional about it too. They just an amazing, an amazing thing. So that's why we played it. All right, let's, let's, let's talk about some other elements here. Yesterday there was a guy walking by the White House. Apparently a plainclothes Secret Service officer saw this guy and saw the outline of the gun under his clothing. They're apparently trained to look for this maybe and I don't know how obvious it was, we haven't seen the pictures or anything, but they send uniformed cops over, uniformed Secret Service guys over to confront the guy and then at some point the guy ends up drawing his weapon and then begins firing at the Secret Service officers. Well, that's how you get shot. So that's how the Secret Service officers shot him. They gunned him down yesterday. Watch this. This is an assessment from a Secret Service official yesterday explaining what happened. And this was just after J.D. vance's motorcade went by. Cut to watch.
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Approximately 3:30 this afternoon, our plainclothes officers and agents that consistently patrol the outer perimeter of the White House complex identified a suspicious individual that appeared to have a firearm. They called in support from our marked uniform Secret Service police to make contact with that individual. Upon making contact, that individual fled briefly on foot foot, withdrew a firearm and fired in the direction of our agents and officers. They returned fire and engaged. That individual was hit. He's since been transported to the hospital. I have no, no comments on his condition. I can tell you that at least one, we believe only one bystander was hit by the suspect. That individual, it's a juvenile, did not sustain any life threatening, threatening injuries but he's also receiving treatment at the hospital.
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A juvenile was hit by the gunman and then that apparently was a 15 year old boy. A 15 year old boy we've got was, was shot that by the gunman. Secret Service, this is the New York Times. Secret Service shoots and wounds armed man near Washington Monument. A 15 year old boy was also hit. The motorcade of Vice President JD Vance had just passed through the area shortly before the shooting. The Secret Service shooting and wounding the armed man Monday afternoon just south of the White House in a burst of gunfire that also grazed that young bystander in an area that was packed with pedestrians. There was no indication that the man who was taken to a hospital with multiple gunshot wounds was targeting anyone in the executive complex. And Chris McDonald, a congressional affairs official with the Secret Service, President Trump was not in any danger. There's currently no known nexus between the incident and the White House. J.D. vansen had just passed through in his motorcade in that area, a heavily trafficked route for official vehicles as well as people visiting the nearby Washington Monument shortly before the confrontation took place. The condition of the armed man, not known. A firearm was recovered at the scene. The 15 year old was being treated for non life threatening gunshot wounds. So that's the, that's the update there. Now look, I, you know, this story starts with a guy was carrying a gun in a concealed way apparently. And you know, I, I happen to think that Americans should be able to carry concealed all over the country. I mean that's, that's a second amendment right. When you draw your weapon and then you start firing at police officers, that's how you get gunned down. So I, I can't tell you anything really about this guy other than the limited information we know. But here's what I do know. If he drew his weapon on cops, of course he's going to get shot. Psycho. So don't do that. Don't draw your weapon on police officers. Don't do that. So guy, guy gets gunned down. But here's the Secret Service in yet another exchange of gunfire, this time striking their target, this time striking the guy who was firing the gun and sent him to the hospital. Again, condition unknown at this hour. All right, more ON Vice President J.D. vance coming up in a second. I want to talk to you about the fraud that he's pursuing because our next guest is digging in on a bunch of fraud and it's caught the attention of the Vice President of the United States and it involves the state of Ohio. That's where J.D. vance comes from, of course. This is Luke Rosiak's reporting. He says that 94 Medicaid home health companies are all apparently in one office building that doesn't have any windows in Ohio. They're taking more than $66 million of your money. And apparently these so called home health companies provide free butlers to immigrants. To immigrants. Do you have a free butler, ladies and gentlemen? Anybody? I need a free butler. Where's my free butler? And by the way, it's not free. It's not free. Is you and I have to pay for the butlers for the immigrants. $66 million of our money going to a windowless building allegedly for bottling immigrants. Is bottling the correct term? Is that right? Is bottling a word? Bottling? I don't. Is buttling a real word? I don't know. It doesn't matter. I guess the more important thing is why is our money being stolen. Luke Rosiak's digging in on this and J.D. vance says these shocking allegations, if true, show why the fraud task force work is so important. JD Vance is directing the task force to look into it and to take immediate action to prosecute any fraudsters involved and stop all further payments as appropriate. They're digging into it and chat tells me buttling is a word. It's buddling. I thought it was. I thought it was a word. Somewhere deep in the recesses of my mind, I was thinking that buttling was a thing. I think it is. Yes, indeed. All right, we'll get to our guest here in just a moment. All ahead on this edition of Vince, There's a. Let me. Let me share one of our great sponsors with you, Bull and Branch. Bull and Branch. We had house guests recently who got to sleep on bowl and branch sheets. And they woke up the next morning and they looked at me and they said, those bowling branch sheets are unbelievable. I go, I know. That's why I'm constantly talking about them. There's a point in life where your sleep stops being optional. You gotta get good sleep. You spent years taking care of everybody else. The kids, the work, the life. Suddenly you realize how your sleep affects everything. Energy, mood, focus, your health. This is where Bolan Branch comes in. There are organic cotton sheets, plush pillows, breathable blankets, temperature regulating comforters. 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Use the code Vince for 20% off your first order. That's blackoutcoffee.com Vince, join the coffee club today and make it part of your daily routine. Blackout coffee.com/vince, I'm very happy to have joining us right now, a longtime friend, a guy who's been in journalism and doing such good work for so long. And he, and he, he's got a huge story that he's uncorking right now. Luke Rosiak joins us. He's an investigative reporter for the Daily Wire, and he's here on the program today. Hello, Luke. Good to see you again, sir.
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Hey, Vince. Thanks for having me.
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Okay, man. So you have gone. I noticed, I was like, where's Luke? Luke had gone dark. Luke had disappeared and basically gone into witness protection. You just completely fell off the face of the earth. But the reason you disappeared is because you've spent the last few months digging into a massive, massive story. Tell us about it.
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Yeah, you know, it gets into what Medicaid really is spent on. And this is a huge portion of the federal budget. And when Doge was looking for things to cut or even going back decades, we were always told, well, Medicaid, you can't touch that. It's non discretionary funding. It's just people going to the doctor. It's not like something you can look into and say, well, we should cut this program or we should cut that program. But it turns out that it's a huge pool of money that is spent with almost no oversight in some of the sections that I looked at.
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Yes, so, so just so people understand Medicaid money, the way it's distributed, the feds just give it to the states and then the states kind of dole it out as they will. Right?
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Yeah. And I think that's at the root of the problem. It's the other people's money problem. Right. I mean, so if like 70% of it is coming from the feds, I think some of the states don't even care if it's being squandered. They're like, yeah, maybe it'll, you know, go into a trickle down into our economy some way that'll be helpful. I think that's what happened in Minnesota where a lot of the stuff, basically all the fraud you hear about in Minnesota, except maybe the daycares, is all has to do with these Medicaid waivers which give certain states permission to bill the federal taxpayers more than other states. And that's what I looked into in general, these waivers. And that specifically took me to a red state, the state of Ohio.
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Okay, so you go to Ohio and you say it's a red state. So you would hope that the Republicans would be managing things well, but you found that unfortunately that's not the case, that there's. That there seems to be a big mess in Ohio. What did you find?
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Well, they have a similar waiver to Minnesota and some other states where they pay not only just home health care, which is like somebody, a nurse to come to your house, but they took it further and they allow what's called personal services, which I call butlers for Somalis. These are taxpayer funded butlers for Somalis. And they will come and they will cook for you, clean for you. Maybe you need somebody to do your hair, anything you need, just sort of a personal helper. And you know, originally this started for like if you're. As an alternative to going to a nursing home. That was the argument, and it's one that makes sense in theory that if we were going to spend $100,000 putting you in a nursing home, if we could somehow avo avoid that by spending 40 grand spending somebody coming to your house to like do your nursing, okay, it saves money. But the problem is nobody really fakes their way into a nursing home. Nobody wants to go sit with their head in a, in a bowl of apple applesauce, you know, in a nursing home. There's no incentive to pretend to be more sick to get into a nursing home. But if you can say, well, I'm just sick, but I don't want to go to a nursing home, just, you know, give, give me stuff in my House, suddenly people want to pretend to be sick. You know, you have a 65 year old mom, she gets a note from the doctor and suddenly you've untapped these Medicaid waivers. Now previously to get nursing services you'd have to be a nurse, but you do personal services. These butlers that can be anyone. And so what you get is Somalis are getting paid to hang out with their own family members. So best case scenario, they have a butler, worst case, the butler is just their own family member. So really they're just getting paid to hang out with their family and do family stuff like cleaning your house or cooking your family family member dinner once in a while.
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So I noticed that you went, you tracked down a building that we just were talking about this a moment ago. You tracked down a building, an office building. And fellas, I'm gonna put this on screen. Let me, let me put this back on screen, if you would. If we can go full screen here. Here is an image of the building that you shared on social media. This is the exterior. There are no visible windows on this building. This is in Ohio. And you say that it contains a ton of these so called home health companies. In fact, they're 94 of them in this building. And among those 94 companies, they've taken $66 million in taxpayer money. Tell us about this building.
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And yeah, so that's in the northeast, Columbus. It's where like most of the refugees and Africans live. And there's a whole street like that with a lot of big office buildings that inside they just have these little LLCs that nobody is really inside of the, the companies. There's no like customers going there. But you also drive down the street and you can see like little, you know, standalone ones. Like you drive down the street and all the other businesses have just gone because it's more lucrative just to bill your bill the government to hang out with your own family. And so the reason that there's these little businesses is if I, if I'm getting paid to hang out with my 65 year old mom, I don't have a way to get paid by Medicaid. So I become an employee of a company that bills Medicaid, takes a cut for itself and then pays me an hourly rate. That's just how it works because you need an LLC that has what they call the NPI to build Medicaid. And so that's what's fascinating to me here is that's where you get these companies that are getting like 1 million to $10 million, sometimes a year, sometimes over a couple of years. Like, it can be millions of dollars a year easily. And so we used to talk, and it sounds so quaint now, about, like, the welfare queen, and maybe it's a woman on, on, on welfare, and she gets $500 a month and she buys food that we think is too nice. That seems so small compared to what's going on now. The real welfare queens are the providers of poverty services. Now, they're corporations that are getting paid by the government to ostensibly provide services to the people whose incomes are low enough to, like, qualify them for Medicaid.
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And there's very little evidence that they're really doing much like, service at all to begin with. I mean, I keep seeing these images and videos of people buying, like, May box and luxury vehicles and just all this nonsense and dumping money into houses, sending it overseas, and thinking like, this is of no benefit to the American taxpayer, yet we're having our money taken from us in order to just be stolen.
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Yeah, exactly. And I went out to Columbus and what I saw was buildings that no sane person would think these are like, great businesses that definitely earned, like, millions of dollars a year. Like, these buildings are totally empty for the most part. Like, most of the offices have nobody in them. They've got mail piling up. Sometimes they have these signs on the door that say, we're out to lunch. But it just seems like it's just like a lie. There's just like something is not right. And you look into the people that own these businesses. They oftentimes have tax debts. So they're getting millions of dollars from the government, from taxpayers, and they don't even pay their own taxes. And it's like, how could you get a million dollars a year and you haven't. You can't even pay your taxes.
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So. That's a great question. So in addition to that, I saw in your reporting you said some of the recipients who've been taking this money also have criminal records in the past. So how is it that someone with a criminal record would qualify for receiving federal taxpayer money?
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Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm going to be rolling out stories, sort of case studies every day this week, and you'll. You'll hear a crazy one where this guy, I have audio of him talking about his extensive criminal record. There's another one I'm going to get into that I kind of teased so far, which is there was a guy who's an accountant and he lost his accountant license because he was Busted for stealing federal funds. And then he went and he created a Medicaid business using the address of a convicted money launderer's teenage son. So it's like, oh, this 17 year old is creating this $7 million Medicaid business. I wonder how a 17 year old is doing that. Oh, it's really this other guy and, oh, this teenager's dad just got out of prison. But the state of Ohio is like, yeah, you can just have $7 million, it's fine. I mean, 70% of that 7 million comes from the federal government anyway. It's, it's not our state budget. So, yeah, I mean, I went there and I found similar to like what Nick Shirley found in Minnesota. But I also did what, you know, that I've done for a long time, just doing my database stuff and my research and carefully going through everything. And I worked with the Capital Research center and you know how they're great researchers over there. We were really meticulous about everything and we went through the backstories of these people. So it kind of builds on what Nick Shirley did and it found similar conclusions. And then it took it further by being like, yeah, this wasn't like, it wasn't like, it just looked weird. But there's really an explanation. Yes, the explanation is actually so much worse when you really go into the backgrounds of these individuals.
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So one of the only reasons that you were in a position to do this is because the Trump administration open sourced the Medicaid data. Right. So in other words, they posted a massive database of Medicaid expenditures and the things that they were supposedly spent on, just the, the codes that indicate what that money was supposedly spent on and what company handled the money. Is that right?
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Yeah, it's a huge deal and I think it's maybe the biggest move for government transparency ever. Barack Obama used to talk about being the most transparent president and also using data and technology to make government more efficient, but he never released this. This is way more money than anything else and it never made any sense to conceal it because there's no information about patients in here. We're not to dive into somebody's medical business that's private. These are corporations that are getting paid your money. And if we don't know they're even getting paid, it's literally impossible for anybody to be like, that's fraud, or to alert the government that something doesn't seem right. So it's like, no wonder these people were so blatant, so emboldened, so indignant, so entitled. They Never thought they were going to get caught because our own government wasn't even telling you the corporations that were getting millions of dollars. And so I do wonder if some of the Democrats kind of knew this wasn't going to look right because this should have been something Barack Obama would have been excited to release and find efficiencies in the health care system and to stick it to corporations that are defrauding taxpayers and sometimes not even paying their own taxes.
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The national debt is approaching $40 trillion right now in the United States of America. Among the biggest line items we have in our entire government are Medicaid and Medicare expenditures. And what we keep hearing now by virtue of reporting like yours, Luke, is that they are the source of massive amounts of fraud. What is the scale of this, do you think? I mean, I know that you'd be venturing a guess here, but the closer you look at this, how much fraud do you think is dominating this system right now?
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I think that part of it depends on how you define fraud. I think some of these programs are themselves essentially have little utility or it's impossible to prove fraud to extent that you would need in criminal court because of the nature of the program. The programs are so inherently difficult to actually verify that in my opinion they should all count as essentially fraud, waste and abuse and we need to get rid of them. And you're certainly talking about the hundreds of billions of dollars over the last several years. I mean, let's say $100 billion a year would be reasonable, maybe more. And so when people were trying to cut the budget and doge was doing its thing, there would be people on the left who said, you guys are wasting your time. There is no fat in the budget. Because you look at a pie chart and it's, as you said, a huge chunk of the budget is just Medicaid. And they're like, there's nothing to see there. Once you open up Medicaid as a place where you can find savings, maybe we can present, prevent our country from, from, from going bankrupt and we're all wind up as, as slaves to China. And that's a good thing. We should all be about getting rid of total waste that's doing nothing but just to enrich a few corporations. But I think we have to open up the conversation about. Well, so first of all, just to throw in some numbers to your questions. I mean, the state of Ohio, it's like half of its budget is Medicaid. And then you look at the Medicaid spending in Ohio, it's basically doubled over the last few years. And so what's happened here in Ohio is sending it and us in general as a country on the course for financial ruin. And the component that I'm looking at this week gets to the personal services, those butlers. Can we afford to send people to people's houses and just do like, regular family member stuff? Nothing medical, nothing that requires training? Can we afford it in general? And can we afford it knowing that some portion of that is fraud? And it would be very difficult to prove otherwise because we're not like, we don't have, like, cameras on, like, every old lady's house. And that's what I think that especially when you introduce immigration from places like Somalia, if they're going to start exploiting programs that maybe have existed for years without too much difficulty, it may be that certain things that we've historically gotten away with just based on the. The general goodwill of Americans, unfortunately, they may not. May no longer be viable programs for anybody that wants to the country. You know, anybody who thinks money doesn't have infinite supply may have to conclude that we can no longer do these kind of programs.
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Okay, so I mentioned that the Vice President of the United States is clearly aware of your reporting. He posted about it on X this week, saying that he's directing the task force to look into what you have discovered. Tell us what you can about that.
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So I think that I'm gonna keep rolling out, including later today, addresses and buildings and company names and dollar amounts that are billing huge amounts for people who are basically. One guy told me 70% of these people are just the relatives of the people they're spending time with. So the butlers. I have a lot of red flags that I'm going to be disclosing in the stories that really raise questions about how legitimate these businesses are. And they're going to have to see, is this something that were rules broken or were the rules themselves kind of like idiotic, if you want to say that, or toothless, where it's like they can just blatantly do it and be like, yep, you guys made this Medicaid waiver. You gave us this waiver where Medicaid was supposed to be for healthcare services, but the waiver says it can also be for butlers. So that's what we did. And how are you going to prove that? I wasn't actually at my cousin Omar's house last year at 3pm you know, do you have footage of it? How are you going to convict me?
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Yeah, it's craziness. But you are, you are grateful that the vice president is on this.
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Oh, super, super grateful. And you know, the other guy in charge of that anti fraud task force, Andrew Ferguson, is a really competent lawyer. We know him from here in Virginia and now he's the head of the Federal Trade Commission. Really great law duo there that if anyone could do it, they could.
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Yes.
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So J.D. vance is obviously from Ohio. This is a red state. If they can't get Ohio under control, to me, this takes on even, it's even more infuriating than Minnesota. But yeah, there's the fraud angle and then there's going to be the discussions about whether maybe the waivers just need to be terminated and we end this program outright because maybe fraud, if they can, maybe fraud is detection, is a game of whack a mole where you put, you know, Muhammad Ahmed in jail and then his brother Ahmed Mohammed opens up a new company and it's just like, all right, they're just, you know, you get rid of one, another one pops up, they're moving assets around. Maybe at the end of the day, is this making us feel good, but we're still headed for bankruptcy is the long term solution and maybe the much easier solution, just getting rid of this program that says we're going to pay you to hang out with your family members.
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Well, this is also what happens when you open your borders at the same time and create a welfare state. So when you do that, you destroy an entire country. And we're witnessing that if it isn't stopped and you are a part of the solution to stopping it by telling the truth about it and getting the right people on top of it. Luke, we are looking forward to the rest of your reporting. Thank you so much for your time today, brother. Good to talk to you as always.
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You too, Vince.
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There he is. Luke Rosiak of the Daily Wire. Check out his reporting on this subject. Appreciate this guy and the work that him and the team have put in the Capital Research center, put into this really, really important stuff. That is what we call service journalism. That matters a great deal. We have a country that's worth saving from the people who would wish to do us harm, who've been stealing from us. Crazy. Speaking of the theft going on in America, I'm also concerned about the theft of our elections, the election rigging. Stephen Miller had another banger over the White House yesterday. He posted the following. He said the combination of illegal alien apportionment, flawed censuses, and unconstitutionally racially gerrymandered districts has created an artificial 40 plus House seats for Democrats over 40. Ill gotten House seats by the Democrats. Let me put that differently. That's election rigging. What Stephen Miller is describing is election rigging. If you get 40 unearned house seats because you've allowed illegal aliens to pour into our country, you've aided and abetted that. You use them for headcounts in the United States Census. The census overcounts blue states and undercounts red states. And then you racially gerrymander districts in order to accrue power. You're stealing from the American people. You're diminishing the power of the average American's vote. You're watering down voters. And the effect is that 40 over 40 seats in the House right now have been stolen by Democrats by this math. It's amazing. It's just amazing when you put it in those terms, what's happening to the country right now. Which is why we have been, you and I have been so locked in on election integrity, the Save America act, and getting some of these districts sorted out so that they're not drawn in a racist way anymore. Last week we got the big Supreme Court decision, Louisiana v. Cale, Louisiana v. Collet, where the justices ruled that racist districting is completely unconstitutional. Can't do that. You can't draw districts on the basis of race. And as a result, Democrats are set to lose power because if you strip out the racism, Democrats lose power. That's the history of their whole party. And so that's what the Supreme Court did last week. Now, yesterday the Supreme Court issued another order related to that ruling. And this will get into something of a technicality here, but I'll just quickly explain. It's easy to understand, which is after every Supreme Court opinion, it takes 32 days typically to officially transmit it back to the state courts, to the lower courts. It's a 32 day sequence of events. The reason that there's a 32 day pause between the opinion being issued publicly and being sent and being officially sent to the state courts is because it allows the, the, the people who are involved, the appellants, an opportunity to file a, an appeal for rehearing with the Supreme Court. You can appeal to the Supreme Court for a rehearing. Now that's, that's not something that you almost ever see because the court almost never grants a rehearing. In fact, the last time there were re hearings was back in the 50s and the 60s. I think it was the 50s. For a substantive issue. It's really basically, if the court had Some sort of substantial error in law and somebody wants to make an appeal and go, no, no, no, you really screwed this up and here's why. And then the court would rehear it. But this, this almost never happens. It's been a very, very long time since it has. So it. But it's just, this is the custom, 32 days. Yesterday, the Supreme Court said, we don't have time to waste. This decision affects this year's elections immediately. We can't let this continue. So yesterday, Justice Alito issued a ruling saying we don't wait the full 32 days. We're sending it to the court now, is what they're saying. They're fast tracking the Louisiana voting map decision yesterday, in the words of the New York Times. And if you look closely at what the, what Justice Alito did here yesterday is kind of an amazing, just, this is a truly, truly amazing order because of what Alito said and what Justice Katanji Brown Jackson said in dissent. Here's what Alito said to permit the losing party time to file a petition for rehearing. The clerk of Court ordinarily waits 32 days after the entry of the court's judgment to send the opinion and the certified copy to the clerk of the lower court. This period is subject to adjustment, he says. And he goes on to say that it needs to be sent immediately and that Justice Alito is joined by Justice Thomas and Justice Gorsuch in this ruling. So they sent, they send this out yesterday immediately. Now he goes on to absolutely tear apart Ketanji Brown Jackson here. And the reason for that is because she issues a dissent yesterday complaining that the court issued this ruling quickly. Let me get to her dissent first and I'll get back to Alito's reaction to it. This is like, great. This is like, this is the kind of like, this is like Supreme Court UFC to watch these guys fighting. And Justice Katanji Brown Jackson is completely outmatched in the octagon here. Look at this. She dissents. And she says the court's decision has spawned chaos. And in the state of Louisiana, she goes on to state that you've already had people conducting early voting in the state, so therefore, you can't do this now. Which is interesting because in Virginia, Democrats are taking the exact opposite position. Early voting doesn't matter. It's only about election day as they try and steal all of the congressional seats there. But here the Democrats are saying, well, early vote already began, so we have to, we have to care about those early voters. And she goes on to basically accuse justice Alito and the rest of the majority of being political. She's saying that this has a strong political undercurrent. Strong political undercurrent. And the court is engaged in playing politics here. She alleges we should be avoiding the appearance of partiality. She says we should stay on the sidelines, take no position. Of course the election's barreling forward. She says. Today, the court chooses the opposite. Not content to have decided the law and now takes steps to influence its implementation. The court's decision to buck our usual practice and issue the judgment forthwith is tantamount to an approval of Louisiana's rush to pause the ongoing election in order to pass a new map. And she says that this is terrible. It's going to produce ill will and distrust. The court is unshackling itself from all of these constraints. It's diving into the fray. Those principles give way to power. This abandon is unwarranted and unwise. I dissent. So she attacks the majority for taking the position that it did. Alito doesn't take this lying down. So in addition to issuing the ruling here, he also comes in and he says, I need to smack the dissent around a little bit here. Look at his statement on the subject. He said the dissent in this suit levels charges that cannot go unanswered. The dissent would require that the 2026 congressional elections in Louisiana be held under a map that has been held to be unconstitutional. The dissent doesn't claim it's too late for the state legislature or the district court to adopt the new map that complies with the Constitution. Nor does the dissent even assert that it is not feasible for the elections to be held under such a map. Instead, the dissent offers two reasons for its proposed course of action. One is trivial at best. The other is baseless and insulting. Baseless and insulting. He goes on to say that the 32 day rule can be modified. We don't have to do that. We can push it through. But then he goes on to say, the dissent goes on to claim that our decision represents an unprincipled use of power. That is a groundless and utterly irresponsible charge. What principle has the court violated? The principle that the rule of 32 days should never be shortened even when there's a good reason to do it. The principle that we should never take any action that might unjustifiably be criticized as partisan. The dissent accuses the court of unshackling itself from constraints. It's the dissent's rhetoric that lacks restraint. A well deserved smackdown here from Justice Alito to Ketanji Brown Jackson. She's like, she didn't have to say anything. She could have kept her mouth shut. She could have let Alito just file the order and then just sat there and been miserable. But instead she let her emotional incontinence be on display. And it's a really key reminder of something that you know kind of instinctively, but it just needs to be said out loud. Ketanji Brown Jackson, a lot like her fellow but smarter colleagues Elena Kagan and Justice Sotomayor. They're Democrats. The whole point of their presence on the court is to always increase power for Democrats. Always. There is no constitutional lens through which they are filtering their judgments. Their judgments are predicated on how does this help the Democrat Party and Elena Kagan. We already know that she tried to run out the clock on this decision to begin with in order to prevent us from having maps that were deracialized, that removed the racial prejudice and thus removed Democrat power. She did not want that to come to pass, which is why she delayed the dissent. Ketanji Brown Jackson was trying to manufacture yet another delay tactic. She wanted to stall out the court's decision for as long as possible to make it so that there was no chance, no reasonable chance to redraw these maps and thank God for Justice Alito. One of the blessings of our government to have a guy like Justice Alito alongside Justice Clarence Thomas who are up there fighting every single day for decency, adherence to the Constitution, loyalty to what the founders intended and to the American people. That's what we need. And thank God we have some of that on the court right now. All right, I've got a lot more to get to. We'll do it today on the Vince Show. Coming up, the big national radio show. A lot more to get to thevinceshow.com for your local radio listings or you can join us on rumble rumble.com Vince we do the show live from 1 to 3pm Eastern time on Rumble. Starts at noon on radio but at one o' clock you can watch us on Rumble. As always, appreciate the audience that joins us in all of these environments. You guys really are the best anywhere. Dan Bongino's got his epic show coming up today. This rumble.com bongino and then that's at 10am Eastern. And then Haley Caranilla. She's live at noon Eastern. Rumble.com Haley. Haley with two eyes. Why? Because she's great. She's super great. You're great can't wait to talk to you tomorrow. Thanks, as always, for being with us. Have a great Cinco de Mayo. Get yourself a taco bowl. And if you can, get it from Trump Tower, they have the best ones. We love Hispanics. Talk to you soon.