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Poop-TOMAC Disaster Sparks Federal Takeover | Episode 227
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In this episode, Vince breaks down President Trump’s decision to deploy FEMA after a massive sewage spill contaminated the Potomac River, raising questions about Maryland leadership and the federal response. Plus, he gives key updates on the SAVE Act battle as redistricting fights and election integrity clashes intensify nationwide.
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Everybody, welcome to Vince on a Tuesday. It's great to have you with us. As always, the best audience anywhere. We've got a massive show for you today. You ready for an ecological disaster of epic proportions that the media are all but ignoring entirely that the president of the United States just forced right into the spotlight overnight? We'll talk about that. Also, updates on the SAVE act and yet another horrific shooting at the hands of a transgender lunatic. When are we going to have the big national conversation on mental health that we so desperately need? It's all ahead on this edition of VINCE is always great to have you with us. Hey, are you worried by any chance about upcoming credit card bills? Any credit card bills, anything? Did you accrue some debt during the holidays, for instance, that has you worried? 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All right, so the pooptomic disaster continues in Washington, D.C. for those of you familiar with the Potomac river, which I think most Americans know, the Potomac river is right there up against the nation's capital. It flows to the southeast. The river flows to the southeast. And so just to the northwest of the District of Columbia in January, if you go back to January 19th, to be exact, a six foot wide pipeline burst open, dumping nearly at this point, 300 million gallons of raw sewage directly into the Potomac River. And where does it go? Well, right by the nation's capital, the swamp just got a lot swampier over the last month. And we're talking about a lot of raw sewage. It's disgusting. Look at this. Here's local news coverage as the public is being warned to stay away from the contaminated Potomac river after this historic raw sewage spill. Take a look at this. Come 1. A sewage pipeline collapsed pouring E. Coli and staff into the Potomac River. It's a big concern, certainly not great for tourism or for anybody wanting to do stuff on the water. It's horrifying. Yeah. And are there any safe levels for those for anybody? No. To this point it is estimated nearly 250 million gallons of sewage have contaminated the river. D.C. maryland and most recently Virginia health and environmental agencies are warning people and pets to stay away from the water. The EPA and public health recommendation is that swimming is not recommended when E. Coli levels are above 410. The levels near the drainage channel continue to exceed that. By how much? D.C. water sampling says almost 2,000 times higher than safe levels. At times super dangerous. You know, bacteria that can cause infection or prevent treatment for infection. 2000 times higher than safe levels. It's crazy what has happened as, as all this raw sewage pours right into the river again that flows past the nation's capital and, and the President of the United States last night has finally brought this to not just a local story, but to the nation's attention because he jumped in with a post on Truth Social saying that it is out of control what the Democrats who run this area have done. Now, remember, Democrats control. Through Muriel Bowser, Washington, D.C. democrats now control Virginia in the form of that awful Abigail Spanberger and where this colossal ecological disaster occurred. It's the state that's controlled by Democrat Governor Wes Moore. Wes Moore. We've got a lot to say about Wes Moore today. Wes Moore, you're in the hot seat. We've got you ahead. But look at this. Donald Trump saying last night that it is long past time for somebody to do something about this. Here he is saying there's a massive ecological disaster unfolding in the Potomac river as a result of the gross mismanagement of. Of local Democrat leaders, particularly Governor West Moore of Maryland. A sewer line in Maryland has caused millions of gallons of raw sewage. Hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions is the point. This is. Let me, let me just emphasize something here as I interrupt the President's Truth Social post. We are looking at 300 million gallons of raw sewage in the Potomac River. You want some comparisons? My friend Katie Pavlich made this comparison. This is a great one, an unfortunate one. 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster spilled 10 million gallons of oil. 10 million. This is 300 million gallons of raw human waste. The 2010 Deepwater Horizon disaster spilled 210 million gallons of oil. This is 300 million gallons of Raw sewage. The scale of this is historic. It is awful. The President saying a lot of this, all this raw sewage has been dumped directly into the Potomac River. It's a result of incompetent local and state management of essential waste management systems. This is the same governor who cannot rebuild a bridge. He says, of course, you remember the Francis Scott Key Bridge and its collapse and the disaster, and not only its fall, but the failure to rebuild it with any speed. It is clear local authorities cannot adequately handle this calamity. Therefore, I am directing federal authorities to immediately provide all necessary management, direction and coordination to protect the Potomac, the water supply in the capital region, and our treasured national resources in our nation's capital city. While state and local authorities have failed to request needed emergency help, I cannot allow incompetent local leadership to turn the river in the heart of Washington into a disaster zone. As we saw in the Palisades, the Democrat war on merit has real consequences. The federal government has no choice but to step in. Fema, which is currently being defunded by the Democrats, being defunded as we speak, will play a key role in coordinating the response. Thank you for your attention. Thank you to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. So the president's all over it, calling out this, this again, ecological disaster. And where are we on this now? Of course, this happened on January 19th. This is a six foot wide concrete pipeline. It collapsed right near I495 in the Clara Barton Parkway, began pouring all of this sewage into the Potomac in the intervening days. The EPA went in immediately. So I know the president here is deploying fema, he's deploying other federal resources, but the EPA went in immediately. How do we know that? Well, that's because right after the disaster, the Associated Press put out information saying that a woman by the name of Kelly Offner, a US EPA spokeswoman for the Mid Atlantic region, said the agency was coordinating with DC Water to get all over this thing. The Maryland Department of the Environment and let me see, let me pull that, pull this up for you. Here it is. Kelly Oftener, U.S. environmental Protection Agency spokeswoman for the Mid Atlantic region, said the agency is coordinating with DC Water, the Maryland Department of the Environment, and other federal, state and local authorities to assess the impact on the environment from the Potomac Interceptor sanitary sewer overflow. The federal agency oversees D.C. waters sewer operations under a 2015 federal consent decree. She said D.C. water has provided daily updates since the Overflow was discovered January 19th and has been coordinating efforts to contain it, monitor environmental impacts and communicate with the public. And what have they done since then? Well, they've been pumping the sewage away from the Potomac into a nearby canal as a bypass to system and then pumping it back into the. The. The currently working portion of the pipeline. That's how they've been handling it since then. So the federal government has intervened and now is going to intervene at an even greater level now to clean up this colossal mess. So the President puts this out, and of course, you see that he takes a clear shot at Governor West Moore, who's been an utter failure on all of this. Wes Moore, what is. What has he tweeted about any of this? What has he had to say about any of this? What kind of statements has he made? Well, here we go. Here's a. Here's an answer to that question. Nothing. He hasn't tweeted anything about it up until yesterday, responding to the president. But first, here's what he was tweeting about. This was yesterday, February 16th. Earlier in the day, he wrote, climate change is a threat to all of us in Maryland and worldwide. This reversal in environmental regulations. He's talking about the EPA getting rid of the endangerment finding, the insane endangerment finding. President Trump did the right thing. He's saving America by doing that. This reversal will put us all in danger. We must continue to uphold regulations previously made by the EPA in order to protect our planet, says Westmore. So Wes Moore is tweeting all about the, quote, environment, when he thinks he can control the weather by stealing money from you, but he hasn't said a thing about the Potomac being polluted by raw sewage from his state, over 300 million gallons of it. He said nothing about it at all. Monday evening was the first time. Last night was the first time we got any statement whatsoever from Roy Moore. Excuse me, Not Roy Moore, Westmore. Roy Moore is from a much earlier news cycle, years ago, from Westmore. Here's what Westmore said. Finally, he attacks the President. The President has his facts wrong. Since the last century, the federal government's been responsible for the Potomac Interceptor, which is the origin of the sewage leak. For the last four weeks, the Trump administration has failed to act. I just told you, they have not. The EPA was on it immediately, shirking its responsibility and putting people's health at risk. Notably, the president's own. EPA explicitly refused to Participate in the major legislative hearing about the cleanup last Friday. So the EPA didn't participate in a Democrat run hearing last Friday. Where were you, Wes Moore? Why are you passing the buck to everybody else here? Where is the governor of the state with this gigantic disaster? Why isn't he standing next to the river demonstrating that he's on top of the issue? This is the first time he's ever mentioned any of this. In fact, if you want some proof that this is the first time he's ever mentioned any of this, I asked Grok about it. I said, hey, Grok, what other statements has Westmore himself made about the Potomac spill since it occurred in Maryland on January 19th? You ready for this? Grock says this to me. Based on searches across all news sources, acts and official sites, I found no direct public statements from Governor West Moore on the Potomac sewage spill since January 19th. None. Not a single one. Wes Moore doesn't have time for the people who are suffering in his own state as a result of an open sewage leak spill in his own state. That's who Wes Moore is. Wes Moore is a liar. He's a fabulist, to use a fancy word. Look it up. AOC Wes Moore is a ridiculous human being. And now we have a colossal disaster going on in the nation's capital, which. Have you noticed that the media has not really discussed this at all? Clearly it affects the people around the national capital region directly. But just think about the scale of this. 300 million gallons of raw sewage. And look, I get it. Like there's a lot of attention right now on the Search for Nancy Guthrie, for instance. A horrible story, easy to get your head around. Horrible to see somebody's mother taken in this way. It's a huge mystery that people are trying to solve. It's kind of like a forensic mystery. And the American public is totally captivated by forensic mysteries, which is why there's so many television shows that have been huge hits on those subjects. So obvious that a lot of people are paying attention to that. But the media has devoted a tremendous amount of time to that story. How come we haven't had immense coverage of a 300 million gallon spill of raw sewage into the Potomac River? Why is it that that story's been suppressed? You know the answer to this? It's because Wes Moore is a Democrat. That's why. It's because D.C. mayor Muriel Bowser is a Democrat. It's because Virginia Governor Abigail Spamberger is a Democrat. The last thing they want to do is call attention to a disaster where Democrats are, are called to lead us out of it, and they're failing to do that. So now President Trump has to do the job. President Trump is stepping up now. Don't doubt what happens next. Of course, they're going to accuse President Trump of being responsible. Wes Moore just attempted to do it. It's your fault. It's your fault. And then the media is going to dutifully carry his water in an effort to turn this in some sort of political cudgel against Trump. Because this is always the way these things go. But, but yeah, no, this is, this is yet another dramatic crisis, kind of like the East Palestine fire, actually, where the Biden administration was setting chemicals on fire and an entire community was desperately hoping for some sort of answers as people were becoming sick due to all of this. And they got no answers. They were basically ignored, especially because they were Trump voters in that case. And it took the Trump administration finally coming into office for any, any wrongs to be righted in East Palestine. And here we are yet again. This time, Democrats have all sorts of culpability and the media are working overtime to cover it up. So we won't, we'll just tell you exactly what's going on. Now, I got more on Wes Moore because I mentioned he's a fabulous, the guy's a ridiculous human being. He's, he's lied a lot. And there's been some very good coverage of this. And in fact, he was just asked this weekend about what an incredible liar he is by CBS of all places. Now, of course, cbs, they threw up a huge softball as they asked the question, but nonetheless, Wes Moore had to try and bat it down. Kind of fascinating. I've got the details on it ahead on the guy who really Democrats, there's a lot of Democrats who think this guy has presidential timber, that he's the next Barack Obama, that he's going to be the, the great hope for their party, really. All right. So we'll take a look. Who is this guy? More ahead on this edition of Vince. Let me talk about other things I've been watching closely. Every other things I've been watching. First of all, I've been watching a lot of the Olympics, the Winter Olympics. I like the Olympics. I like, I like speed skating. I thought speed skating is great, especially when you get a lot of speed skaters on the ice on the short track and they're all just slamming into each other and running into the mats. And it's, it's actually really cool. I love the chaos of it. But another thing I've been watching has been Olympic hockey, Olympic hockey, men's hockey. Like our team destroyed the Germans the other day, which is really great and satisfying. And we're moving forward here. A couple of big games this week, but the big question on the minds of so many is truly the two big teams to watch are the United States and Canada. Who's going to win? Who's to going. Who's going to win the gold? Will it be the United States or Canada? Well, great question on Cowshi. This question's being assessed right now. And at the moment, most people on Kalshee think Canada wins for, for the men's ice hockey gold. 55% say that. Meanwhile, 34% have the United States winning and then 7% have Finland winning. And my assumption is all of those people are Finns. But meanwhile the United States, that's, that's where I think the good money should be. The United States should win this thing. I'm, I'm rooting on America as always and love to see these guys compete. At any rate, Cal, she's an awesome place to take a look at all of this and see what people think is actually going to happen. It's not just politics, economics, it's sports. They've got markets on everything. Inflation, numbers, pop culture. I like looking at Kalshee to see what the odds are, see what people are betting on. It's like getting a pulse on what the world thinks is going to happen. You can go to kalsheet.comvince and get a free $10 credit when you trade 100 bucks. That's cowsheet.comvince once again, kalshee.comvince. you have to be 21 and the purchaser must be present in the state where the trade is placed. See important disclosures@calshe.com cow she is subject to US regulatory oversight by the CFTC and we are grateful to have couch. She is a sponsor of our program. Thank you, Cowshi, for supporting us. Okay, so Wes Moore. Wes Moore is a big fat liar. It's unreal. Let me take you through the record first before we get to the game tape of him being asked about all this. Wes Moore has told a number of very tall tales about his life in his rise in American politics. He's now the governor of Maryland. He hopes to one day be the President of the United States is crystal clear. And there was a story. The Washington Free Beacon has a team of reporters. First of all, it's one of my absolute favorite news outlets. The Washington Free Beacon is One of my absolute favorite news outlets. They do real productive, conservative American journalism every day. And they have some of the best reporters imaginable working for them, and including a great guy called Andrew Kerr. Andrew Kerr, who is a super talented reporter. I've had the pleasure of working with him in the past. And Andrew Kerr produced a piece of reporting in the beginning of February, February 4th, with the headline, Wes Moore says the KKK chased his great grandfather out of South Carolina. Historical records tell a different story. And so, okay, so this is a big origin story about Westmore's family. What do we learn from this? Well, this is the reason I love this reporting is because it took digging into historic records and actually producing receipts about West Moore's ancestors. And so this is datelined in Charleston, South Carolina, which means that Andrew Kerr went to Charleston, South Carolina. That's what a date line means at the top. And he investigated all of this. Maryland Governor Wes Moore, who is widely expected to seek the 2028 Democrat presidential nomination, has a very powerful family story of racial injustice. He repeatedly tells it during public speeches. His grandfather, as a small boy, fled 1920s Charleston with his family in the dead of night after his father, a prominent black minister, and Moore's great grandfather angered the Ku Klux Klan with sermons condemning racism. Narrowly escaping a lynching, the family took refuge in Jamaica. But Moore's grandfather, just 6 years old at the time, vowed to return to America, where he eventually raised a grandson who made history in 2022 by becoming Maryland's first black governor. It's a story straight out of Hollywood, and it was a central feature of Moore's 2022 campaign stump speech, in which he described a version of American patriotism wherein loving your country does not mean lying about its history. He's been telling this story since his 2014 memoir. He was retold it countless times as he's seeking to reclaim patriotism for the Democrat Party and to contextualize his own unlikely rise to power. But there's a problem with Moore's story. It's flatly contradicted by historical records, and it's almost certainly false. Almost certainly false. Andrew goes on to say the following. He says Moore's great grandfather, the Reverend Josiah Johnson Thomas, did preach, in fact, in the 1920s at a church in Pineville, South Carolina, 65 miles north of Charleston. But historical records housed at the archives of the Protestant Episcopal Church and the Diocese of South Carolina, undercut the three main elements of his story. That Thomas suddenly fled the country in secret, that he was targeted by the Ku Klux Klan and that he was a prominent preacher who spoke from the pulpit against racism. The piece goes on to basically detail how the church kept extensive records about its clergy, including the dates at which they arrived, the dates they left, the circumstances of their departure. All of these things are all contained in historic church records that are still preserved in South Carolina. Andrew Kerr went and consulted them. And what did he find? His grandfather didn't flee because of the Ku Klux Klan. His grandfather was a Jamaican who went back to Jamaica to become the head pastor at a church where the pastor had just died. The pastor died, he was notified and he immediately left the United States to go back to Jamaica to run that church. All of the historic records line up for the, for that true recitation of facts rather than the nonsense that Wes Moore is now running on. He's campaigning with, oh, the Ku Klux Klan and all this stuff. And so how is West Moore responding to all of this? Well, the same way you'd expect him to respond. He's accusing the Washington Free Beacon of being racist and not appreciating the threat of the Ku Klux Klan and all these other things. By the way, if your message is that the Ku Klux Klan served as a grave threat to your family, that a group of extremist Democrats were a threat to your family, such a threat that they ran your whole family out of the country, why today would you be a Democrat and run for governor of Maryland and then subsequently try and go on to run for president as a Democrat if it was that party who was a threat to you? The whole thing makes no sense whatsoever. Andrew Kerr's reporting is airtight. It is incredible. It is so good. And Wes Moore is a ridiculous human being. So Wes Moore was asked about this by CBS over the weekend. Nora o' Donnell had a town hall with Westmore and watch as she asks in the, in the most gentle way possible. And there's a reason she does it this way. Look, she knows that the Free Beacon has this guy dead to rights. She knows that it would be the craziest thing ever if she didn't even ask about this. So she checks the box and she asks it in. Not. Not. She's not like trying to cross examine the guy. She, she's not trying to dig for details. She's not skeptical of his recitation of the facts. She's just like, go ahead, attack the Free Beacon if you want. Here's Norah o' Donnell and Wes Moore, Wash. They are also raising questions and I want to give you the opportunity to respond to it. It's something you wrote about in your book. You talk about on the campaign stump that your great grandfather was run out of South Carolina in the 1920s by the KKK. 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I mean, the same right wing blog. I can. I can address the fact that I'm the grandson of someone who was born in South Carolina. And when he was just a child, the Ku Klux Klan ran their family, ran my family out and not out of South Carolina. They ran them out of the United States of America and they went to Jamaica. And much of my family has always said they would never come back to this country. It's the reason why my mom, right now, as we speak, is in Jamaica and she's visiting with family members. But my grandfather came back to this country. He got his degree from Lincoln University and HBCU in Pennsylvania. He became a minister just like his father, and he became the first black minister in the history of the Dutch Reformed Church. I know my family's history. So if the some blog has a question about the Klan's history, maybe they should ask the Ku Klux Klan.
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I, I love that. Oh, you should ask the Klux Klan. Go ask them. It's so crazy. Now. It'd be one thing if this was a one off. It'd be like, it'd be one thing if. Now maybe this is a broken retelling. Maybe in the family this story got muddled and he just had the wrong story. You know, people get things wrong about even including about their family's own history. And you can chalk it up to just, you know, this, this was, this was a bad one. I messed this up. But it's not the first time. Wes Moore lies all the time. There's a pattern here. Andrew Kerr in the same piece, summarizes it this way. He looked at this. He goes, you know, Moore falsely claimed that he was born and grew up in Baltimore. He did not. He claimed that he was inducted into the Maryland College Football hall of Fame. It's an organization that doesn't exist. He claimed that he received a Bronze Star for his service in Afghanistan, which he had not. He claimed that in 2006 he was considered a foremost expert on radical Islam based on his graduate thesis, which he never even submitted to Oxford University's library and can no longer locate. He claimed that he was a doctoral candidate at Oxford in 2006, a claim he has no documentation to support and on which Oxford refuses to comment. He claimed that he had a difficult childhood in the Bronx, in Baltimore, despite attending New York City's elite private Riverdale Country School where John F. Kennedy went to school. And by the way, I checked the tuition yesterday as I was looking through this. $60,000 a year right now to go to that school. He claimed he did this. He claimed he had a difficult childhood in the Bronx and Baltimore as a child. And he claimed that he didn't live in. Sorry. And he didn't live in Baltimore. He didn't live in Baltimore as a child. He moved there in college. Why? Because he went to Johns Hopkins University, which is another elite private school, by the way. Johns Hopkins is like, if you ever go to Baltimore, it's a weird oasis in Baltimore because surrounding Johns Hopkins is a lot of really rough areas in the city of Baltimore. But then suddenly you get the Johns Hopkins and it's like, holy cow, this is like a different world. They've got an elite medical institution, an elite university right there in the middle of Baltimore. And that's the world in which he entered in college. And so Wes Moore has this ridiculous fictional biography that he keeps bandying about on various campaign trails. And you get these media goons who just nod along enthusiastically. And the Norah o' Donnell question to go back to the way she asked it, she said something to the effect of like, oh, the Free Beacon has cast doubt on your claims with church records. Do you want to respond? How does that inform the CBS audience that's watching this about the details of what the Free Beacon learned? How does that in any way illuminate the case against Wes Moore? It doesn't. She just merely said some other place is casting doubt on your claims. What do you have to say about that? That is an epic softball across the plate. And Wes Moore went to the same move that all these Democrats do, which is, my opponents are racist, my critics are racist. Anybody who would dare scrutinize me is a racist. So shut up. How about no, we're gonna keep talking and keep proving you to be the fraud that you are. Wes Moore, now the governor of Maryland, now overseeing a historic ecological disaster that he didn't talk about until yesterday when he decided to attack Donald Trump. We got a lot more ahead on this edition of Vince. Amazing. Yes, there's a. It is very Obama esque, isn't it, patriot? Ms. LL saying that, doesn't he kind of has an Obama vibe? Yeah. Remember Obama's composite girlfriends where he just made up details about his life? Oh, that was a composite. Put them all together. Put them all together. What? Some. Somebody I know. You know, this week, everybody was after Obama about this thing about aliens. And on, on Dan's show yesterday, he talked a little bit about this, which I'm fascinated by him, really. I love when Dan talks about his experience in the FBI and the kind of secrets he had access to. And, and, and he was reflecting on this, which is great. You should go watch Dan's show from yesterday. But. Or listen to it. But Obama, he does this interview where he's like, yeah, aliens are real, but couldn't locate him anywhere in the government. We didn't have him anywhere. And it was like, wait a second, hold on. And the guy just moves on, right? That's the big story this week. That the guy who's asking him the questions just skips past this, like, hold on, follow up. Aliens are real. Can you put some more meat on that bone? What do you mean aliens are real? And Obama finally came out and gave some sort of walk back to it, you know, no proof. We don't know anything about it. Okay, whatever. But I wonder, Obama sits down for an interview like that. Did this dude ask him at any point about Obama's chef ending up dead behind his house? So, like, if you had a chef. Let me ask you a question. If you had a chef chat and you were a public figure and your chef just ended up under mysterious circumstances dead in the water behind your house, don't you think that you would be asked about this for at least every interview you did over the, say, the next five years, that somebody would just ask you, like, hey, whatever happened to your chef? You ever get to the bottom of that? Wasn't that crazy? Do you know anything about that? Did this dude ask a single question? Or we just skip past that? We just pretend like the chef didn't die behind Obama's house? Nothing. Nothing. Yeah, no, it's. It's a. You know, it's. It's amazing the kinds of passes the left is given and. Are aliens real? Yeah, they're real. Okay, moving on to the next question. Now this is. This is a journalism 101. 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Hugh Johnson, which is a great name, says just, it's just a ridiculous name, says my sheets smell of rich mahogany and leather bound books. You may want to watch them. Okay, let's, let's get into some other things here. You guys want to do the SAVE Act? Let's do the Save Act. Let me give you an update on the SAVE Act. We've got, we've got some meaningful updates here. Again, as you know, We've reached the 50 vote threshold now in terms of support. We await whether or not we're going to get enough Republican senators to take this thing to the floor. We just need a simple majority. But they've all got to show up. Chip Roy is keeping the pressure on that. Chip Roy is a member of the House, but he's very familiar with the Senate rules. He's, he's now advising United States Senators on what to do here. And he is in an interview with the Washington Free Beacons, great Brianna Lyman. He's laying out how the Senate can vote on the SAVE act without. Ladies and gentlemen. Without Ladies and gentlemen. Without nuking the filibuster. Without nuking the filibuster. This is massive. Then this is the thing that everyone again, just, they keep missing it. So Roy in the Federalist piece here preempts talking points from some Republicans and he's laying out how John Thune could successfully bring the SAVE act to a vote without nuking the filibuster. Roy explains the following. This is something this audience will be familiar with, but I want to reiterate here. Roy explains that as long as all Senate Republicans who have either co sponsored or publicly supported the legislation show up and presents a live quorum, it would force Democrats to talk nonstop, to delay a vote at just 51 votes rather than the 60 threshold filibuster. The commonly accepted 60 vote filibuster threshold to shut off debate is not the only way to force a vote in the Senate. The majority can force opposing Senators to speak, said Roy. Under current Senate rules, if there is a quorum, the Senate must either be voting or a member must be speaking. In other words, if no one is speaking and a quorum is present, the vote on the pending business happens automatically. The quorum. In this case, that's 51 votes. So get the 51 senators to the floor. 50 plus J.D. vance. 50 plus J.D. get them to the floor. Begin the process of passing the Save America Act. Democrats will interrupt it by starting debate. Fine. Let them. They will begin to run their mouths at the conclusion of their mouths running. You then pass the legislation. You got to keep everyone close to the Senate floor. This takes work. This takes. This takes herding sheep. You know, you got to get everybody there. But if you can do those things, you can get this passed with a simple majority. No rule changes, ladies and gentlemen. No rule changes. Roy said Thune can proceed to the Save America act with a simple majority vote as soon as he chooses. Under current practice, he would call it up, debate it for a while, proceed to a 60 vote cloture vote to shut off debate. It would fail. Republicans would shrug and would say, we tried. We need to elect more Republicans. This is what we call a fake or zombie filibuster, said Roy. There's no real speaking, just a failure to get 60 votes to shut off debate and then a. And then default to a quorum call. No business. Rather than having 51 senators show up to call the question at a simple majority. But Roy points out the existing Senate rules allow a present majority, 51 senators to seek a vote on the Save Act. If Republicans stick together and the minority exhaust their opportunities to speak, a final vote on passage of the bill occurs automatically. That's it. Republicans would need to stay disciplined. They'd have to table every amendment that Democrats try and present. They would. They would try to present amendments to try and upend this thing. And they would have to enforce the two speech rule in order to get the. To force an actual vote. The two speech rule is every senator during a filibuster can only speak twice, two separate sessions. So Cory Booker would only have two swings of the bat and then he's done. We can move the legislation under current rules without nuking the filibuster, said Roy. Okay, so this is. Please continue to get the word out. You know, one of my favorite things about this audience is I see you everywhere, all over social media, constantly telling people, nope, you can do it. No, you can do it now. No, you can do it. Simple majority. Nope, you don't have to nuke the filibuster. I thank you. Please, please, please, the keep the information campaign going. Because there's two categories of frustrating Republican senators. There's good Republican senators. Mike Lee is pushing for all of this. But there's two categories of very frustrating Republican senators. There are the senators who are ignorant of the Senate rules. They just have no idea. I've never done that. I didn't know that was something we could do. It is. So let's educate you and then there's the other one, which is they know they can do it and they don't want you to know because that would require work. Well, too bad. Too late, sweetheart. We know exactly how the Senate rules work and we're going to keep reminding everyone about how they work. 51 votes. Now, what about John Th. Jon Th. I see people mentioning John Th. In the chat. They're concerned about Jon Th. Jon Th. I think is playing some games here. I hate to tell you. And here's why I say that. Let me take you through what we see from Fox. This was published last night on Fox News's website, FOX News Digital. Thune guarantees voter ID bill to hit the Senate despite Schumer and Democrat opposition. We will have a vote. Well, that's an encouraging headline. I love that. Look at John Thune telling us we will have a vote. So let me actually look at what the piece says. John Thune, he's ready to put Senate Democrats to the test on voter ID legislation, Save America Act. We will have a vote, thune told FOX News Digital. Okay, that's all good. Let's see. He views the opportunity of a floor vote as a way to have Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and his caucus explain to voters why they would block a legislative push to federally enshrine voter ID and proof of citizenship to register to vote. That's also good. See, ladies and gentlemen, this sounds good, what Thune is saying, but I'm going to get to the part of this article where I go, wait a second. That's. I don't. I think he might be playing some games here. He says, quote, we will make sure that everybody's on the record. And if they want to be against ensuring that only American citizens vote in our elections, they can defend that. Here we go. Ready? Here's where things get interesting. They can defend that when they have to go out and campaign against Republicans this fall. Hold on. We're not asking you to put them in a position where they go out and defend it on the campaign trail. We're asking you to put them in a position where they try and defend their insane position on the Senate floor in the form of a filibuster. My spidey senses are tingling here. Something is amiss with the way John Thune is talking about this. They can defend it when they go out on the campaign trail. We will make sure everybody's on the record. Why do I get the feeling that John Thune is talking about a procedural vote and not an actual vote on the SAVE act some sort of vote to prove that Democrats are opposed to it. We know Democrats are opposed to it. They're all screeching about it now. Don't play games with us, Jon Thune. When you say you're going to have a vote, mean it. They talk about some of the options here in the Fox piece. Thune has already thrown cold water on one option, which is nuking the Senate filibuster. That would be the. I wish they'd be more specific. The silent filibuster, the one where nobody talks and then legislation just dies. The other is turning to the talking or standing filibuster. This is the, this is. Well, this is the actual historic filibuster. I love how they're pretending like this is like the weird exception. This is like, oh, this was a really novel thing. No, the filibuster is when you open your mouth and you make a case before the American people on the Senate floor. It's the physical precursor to the current filibuster that requires hours upon hours of debate over a bill, says Fox. Some fear that path could paralyze the Senate floor. Thune acknowledged that concern, having previously made it himself, but noted another wrinkle. A lot of people focus on unlimited debate. Yes. It's something that could drag on for weeks or literally for months, said Jon Thune. Ladies and gentlemen, I just told you it would take two rounds of speeches each and then we're done. Would it stretch on for a lot of time? Yes. For months? No. Thune is trying to deter people from going to this option. He goes, but it's also unlimited amendments, meaning that every amendment through, there's no rules. So every Amendment will be 51 votes. Yeah. So that's why you got to stay on the floor and you got to fight for this priority. He argues that there are several politically challenging amendments. It could hit the floor. It would put members in tough reelections in a hard spot. This could be challenging. John Thune is whining. Thune didn't shut down the idea of turning to the talking filibuster, especially if it ended in lawmakers being able to pass the SAVE Act. But in the Senate, outcomes are rarely guaranteed on politically divisive legislation. This is how the peace ends. Quote, I think that, you know, this is obviously a mechanism of trying to pursue an outcome, but I don't know that in the end it'll get the outcome you want. And there could be a lot of ancillary damage along the way. I'm telling you right now what I'm detecting in John Thune's statements. Here is an effort to try and get you to settle down. This is a pat on the head from John Thune. Oh, sure, sure. I know you want the talking fellow, buster. That's fine. That's wonderful. Don't worry. Don't you worry. We'll have a vote. I promise we'll have a vote. And then everybody will prove what side they're on. And then Democrats have to go on the campaign trail and they have to explain to everybody why they don't support voter id. Stop it. Stop lying to me. Stop lying to me. Stop dressing up some abdication of your responsibility as something that's good for me. No, this should not be some random procedural vote. No, it should not be a ceremonial little test vote or some way to prove through the legislative record that, see, those guys are opposed to this. I'm not asking for that. I'm asking for you to go the freaking distance for once. I'm asking you to use the current rules of the Senate to get every Republican to the Senate floor to. To vote on this thing and to enshrine it in the law to protect our elections. That's what I'm asking. Anything less is an abdication of your responsibility. And I see guys like Scott Pressler out there who's been heroic on this, and he's saying the same thing I'm saying. Enough is enough. Stop playing games. The very future of the Republican Party's ability to win in any election, nevertheless, these midterms in is on the line. If you sincerely care about the electoral consequences of actions that happen on the Senate floor, then you should be passing the freaking SAVE Act. John Thune, if you care about the electoral consequences for your party, pass the Save act or else get the hell out of leadership. What kind of leader leads their party off a cliff? We will have a vote. Don't try and spin us anymore. We are way too attuned to the game that's being played. This is unfortunate. I hate that that's the case. And I, you know and he knows. Look, Thune's feeling the pressure. There's a reason he's trying to spin out of this thing. Oh, don't worry. We'll have a vote. We'll have a vote. Yeah, have a real one. Have a real one. Fight for something for once. That's what we're asking for. Meanwhile, what's the left up to? They're rigging elections. The left is actively rigging elections as we speak. We get a report also From Fox, but summarized by Jonathan Turley this week that the dial up Democrat, the man whose brain does not run very quickly at all. It runs with a dial up tone. Hakeem Jeffries is reportedly pressuring the Maryland Senate president right now to eliminate the final district held by a Republican in the state. Maryland Democrats would have 51% of the voters and then they would take 100% of the House seats. Under this scheme, Maryland has one Republican right now, one Republican. Congressman Andy Barr and the other seven lawmakers are Democrats because Maryland has a deeply gerrymandered map. And so what are Democrats pushing for? They want to eliminate the last Republican in the state. Now, you saw what Jonathan Turley just said. 51% of Marylanders are Democrats. The other 49% are Republicans. How is it that Democrats control almost every seat? Gerrymandering, rigging, election rigging. And there's a push right now by Wes Moore and Hakeem Jeffries to rig the whole state so that no more Republicans can win. That's the fight that we're actually engaged in right now. Now, let me offer you a glimmer of hope in the midst of all of this. This redistricting fight in Maryland could blow up in the Democrats faces. And here's why I say that. Earlier this year, the Maryland Senate president, a Democrat by the name of Bill Ferguson, was warning his own party, this is a very bad idea. If we do this, it could result in disaster for Democrats. Maryland Senate President Bill Ferguson, let me show this to you. Bill Ferguson, here it is in the Hill in February, who was a member of the advisory commission that ultimately recommended the new map, warned in a letter to colleagues last fall published by Politico that the risk of redistricting was too high, making the unlikely possibility that we gain a seat not worth pursuing. Ferguson acknowledged the dangers of Trump backed gerrymandering Donald Trump. It's not stupid. The reason President Trump is encouraging Republican states to fight back is because Democrats have gerrymandered the country to get a bunch of seats that they don't deserve, that don't represent the voters at all. So Republicans are being called upon by the president to actually fight back for once. So they're making Trump into the bad guy. Of course. Here's what they say. Ferguson said that after Maryland, the Maryland Supreme Court had struck down Maryland's map in 2021, any redrawing of the current map could open up a legal challenge to the map. And if it goes to the courts, if it ultimately goes to the Supreme Court of Maryland, here's the problem the Democrats are going to run into. Of the seven members of the Maryland Supreme Court, five of them were appointed by former Republican Governor Larry Hogan. So in other words, these are justices that were appointed by a Republican who would now have a say in how the maps are drawn if the. The courts rule that the maps are unconstitutional. Now, in Maryland, we've already seen this happen. I want to take you back in time. Everybody forgets history. Back in 2022, a Maryland court, a state court, ruled that the last time Democrats attempted to seize all eight seats at once, it was unconstitutional. And so the reason only one Republican continues to hold a seat in Maryland is because Governor Larry Hogan kind of gave up the fight. He settled with Democrats, and they agreed to just draw maps that were 7, 1 again. But if he hadn't given up the fight, if he sustained the fight, it could have made his way to the Supreme Court of Maryland, and Republicans could have ended up with more seats because the state court has ruled that in order for the boundaries to be drawn, the reason that they're unconstitutional is because they're not cohesive communities. They're not cohesive groups of people that make any sort of logical sense. And if Maryland was drawn into cohesive communities as individual districts, Republicans would hold three or four seats in Maryland. So let me just give this silver lining to all of this in Maryland specifically. I've talked to Maryland Republicans about this, by the way, and they're a little excited about this because their view is, okay, go ahead, Democrats, try and steal another seat in Maryland, because if you do, this could end up in the courts and Republicans could end up with more congressional representation. So go ahead, try this fight. It could dramatically blow up in your face. And the head of the Senate in Maryland has been warning his own party the disaster lies ahead, and yet they're pursuing it anyway because they don't think about consequences. All they think about is how can we get more power. So kind of fascinating to watch as. As this goes on, but that's a. That's an interesting story. And then finally today, I want to. I think. I think finally, we'll see. There's always a time limitation here. I want to talk to you about another horrible shooting that took place yesterday as a transgender dude opened fire, killing his own family, killed two people, critically injured three others at a high school hockey game in Rhode island yesterday afternoon. The New York Post has some of the details here. He's a transgender father. Transgender father. Robert Dorgan. He's the Rhode island hockey shooter. He Gunned down his family. And for those of you watching rumble.com Vince, you can see just video of everyone ducking at the ice rink, the players fleeing off the ice as the gunshots are being fired, people running out of the ice rink. This is just awful. They say the crazed gunman who killed two people and critically injured three others at a high school hockey game in Rhode island on Monday afternoon has been identified as a transgender dad who railed against anti trans hate in family legal disputes and deranged social media rants. Robert Dorgan is 56 years old, shot four family members and a family friend and then turned the gun on himself. Following the deadly rampage at the Pawtucket ice rink. He used the female alias Roberta Esposito. According to the Pawtucket police chief, quote, we've identified the person, the suspect, by a birth name. The birth name was Robert Dorgan. We've also learned that the person does go by the name of Roberta, also uses a last name of Esposito. There's pictures of him with nail polish and things on. There's pictures of him dressed in girls clothing at a previous hockey game. The guy, he looks like something out of South Park. Ridiculous. So his transgender identity appeared to be a source of multiple family court battles in the years before the shooting, which cops said was the result of a domestic dispute. So he's a deeply mentally ill human being. Deeply mentally ill. In fact, he went nuts after an X exchange yesterday with the former Hercules actor Kevin Sorbo. Yeah, you heard me correctly. He was getting into it with Kevin Sorbo a day ago. He was tweeting because Kevin Sorbo. There's another picture of this guy. Holy crap. That's a. That's a dude. That's the dutiest dude you've ever seen dressed as a chick. And Kevin Sorbo had posted something about Democrat Congressman Tim McBride, who goes by Sarah, pretends to be a woman in Congress. And Kevin Sorbo had said, you know, this is a man. He posted an image of the guy saying, this is a man. And Dorgan responded to Kevin Sorbo saying, keep bashing us, but do not wonder why we go berserk. And then he went berserk. Dorgan's daughter spoke to the media yesterday. Right after speaking to the cops, she left the police station and she spoke to the media. Here's what she had to say as she walked out. Watch. My family. He's dead now. What was the reasoning? Was there a family argument? He has mental health issues. He has mental health issues. She went on to say he was very, very sick. Certainly seems like it. A million red flags in that guy's life before he opened fire on his family. And again, I say to you, where's the national conversation on mental health, on transgender violence? How often I had people texting me last night about this going, I gotta say that the second I saw that this went down, I thought, that guy's probably transgender. Whoever did this was transgender, sure enough. Why does that keep happening? Are we going to be serious about this? Are we going to tackle this mental health crisis, or are we just going to continue to affirm it as more people destroy themselves and others? You know, the left wants to continue to bury it. The New York Times has attempted to bury the lead overnight. I saw Dagan McDowell post this to act. She captured the headline in the subhead off the New York Times. Two killed and shooting at high school hockey game in Rhode Island. Two killed. By the way, that's a passive voice construction. For those of you who know the English language well, that's passive voice. Two killed. Who killed them? You start with transgender guy kills two at high school hockey game, subject object, in that order. Let's see. And then they say at a later news conference on Monday night, Chief Goncalves said the shooter was born in 1969 and went by two different names. They're downplaying the trans violence. They're trying to cover it up. That's the paper of record. That's the New York Times. That's the old gray lady. Or should I say the old gray trans man. It's outrageous and you hate to see it happen. We got to put a stop to it. I am grateful as always for you being with me today. I've got so much more to get to. I'm going to do a lot of that on the VIN show today, the big national radio show. I hope you join me for that as well. The VIN show dot com. That's where we get all of our great radio affiliates. You can find your local radio affiliate, listen to it there. 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