
The Trump administration reveals sweeping federal charges against 15 Antifa-linked activists; more Antifa lunatics riot outside a federal courthouse; Senate Republicans clash over Trump's SAVE America Act push, Vice President JD Vance battles critics over the Iran agreement; Vance warns low Dem patriotism is tied to violence; Heritage Foundation President Dr. Kevin Roberts joins the show!
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Vince
welcome to Vince on a Wednesday. Great to have you with us. The best audience anywhere. Holy crap. We've got a lot to get to today. We've got a big Save America act update for you. John Thune rambled in front of a microphone yesterday. His answers were completely unsat. We don't like them. So we'll go through what he actually said and how the president has just dropped a bomb on the whole conversation overnight. Kind of love it. We'll talk about that coming up on the program. Also, J.D. vance does the media circuit. He talks about Iran and his new book. Some great conversations, great interviews by the vice president. We'll get to some of the highlights there. And Antifa just busted. A massive arrest of a bunch of these antifa insurrectionists by the Trump administration. You love to see it. Consequences are coming for the lefties who are trying to destroy our country. There's so much to get to today. We'll be joined by Dr. Kevin Roberts of the Heritage Foundation. He's the president over there. He's got a lot to talk about with me. We'll talk about Iran. We'll get to it. It's all ahead on this edition of vince. I want to thank a great sponsor who supports the program today. That's Brickhouse Nutrition. We love Brickhouse. Don't we love Brickhouse chat? We love Brickhouse. And they've got a great product called Lean. You know about Lean? Let me tell you about Lean. A lot of people are looking to lose weight. Makes sense. You want to get healthy. And some people are turning to those injections because they're looking for dramatic results. But the key about those injections is they work by lowering your blood sugar and reducing your appetite. But what if you want to do that and you don't want the painful weekly injections, especially when you hear about some of those side effects? Well, this is precisely why doctors at Brickhouse Nutrition created a weight loss supplement called Lean. And the results are remarkable. The studied ingredients in Lean have been shown to help lower your blood sugar, help you burn fat by converting it into energy, and help you curb your appetite and your cravings so you're less hungry. But listen, Lean by brickass Nutrition, not for the casual Dieter. It's for frustrated dieters with 10 or more pounds to lose. So let's get you started. 20% off free rush shipping. Visit takelean.com. enter Vince for your discount. That's promo code Vince. Take lean.com. do what so many in the chat have already done. Go to Vin the type again. Promo code Vince@takelean.com. these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease, and it's not a substitute or alternative for care from a healthcare provider.
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Boom.
Vince
Yeah, it's interview day. We get the interview threads on. It's. It is what it is, you know, a guest coming up. I kind of try and predict is the guest gonna wear a jacket or not? What are they gonna be looking like? So my guess this morning is maybe Kevin's gonna wear a jacket. Who knows? Maybe he is, maybe he's not, but whatever. I'm ready. I got my jacket on. I'm ready for the big interview with Kevin Roberts. He's a good man leading a good or great organization. Love the Heritage Foundation. I don't know about you. When did you first find out about the Heritage Foundation? Was it, like, me from Rush Limbaugh? Was it Rush? It was Rush for me. I remember when I found out about Heritage, it was Rush. Rush was doing these, these Heritage endorsements. He was talking about how great the Heritage foundation was so, so many years ago. And I would listen to that, and I was like, man, got to find out more about the Heritage Foundation. And then, sure enough, as I started, when I, when I moved from North Carolina to Washington, D.C. and I was trying to figure out my place in the world, you know, trying to find a job. I started at the Heritage foundation, actually, I did an internship at the Heritage foundation, working in the communications shop there. And the rest, as they say, is history. It's been, it's been a wonderful ride. I love Heritage and I love Kevin Roberts. So it'll be fun to talk to him coming up. And we'll get into the details of Iran, the memorandum of understanding. And I've got a banger new clip from the President of the United States to share with you on that subject. It's all coming up on the program. But first, this morning, I want to start with. Well, the thing that you and I are absolutely obsessed with, that's the Save America Act. We need to get this thing passed, don't we? Don't we? We need to get the Save America act passed. We need election integrity in The United States. I saw one news outlet, I can't remember which one, but it referred to this as an overhaul of America's elections. It's not an overhaul. It's not radical or anything. It's literally just enforcing existing laws and making sure that only American citizens are voting. Not that dramatic. Actually. The only reason it would be dramatic is because of the amount of fraud that's taking place in our system that it would upend. That's the only reason it would be an overhaul of our election system. If that's the case, our election system needs to be overhauled. You can't have one that's this vulnerable to fraud, which of course it is. Yesterday, John Thune decided to do a television interview. He sat down with Fox News's Bret Baer on Special Report and Brett, to his great credit, asked about the Save America act. And he kind of stayed on it, actually. And John Thune did not have good answers. In fact, Thune spent every portion of this segment of the interview making excuses for why he hasn't yet twisted enough arms to get the Save America act passed. And he used a couple of acts of outright deception as he described it. I want you to watch the clip and then we'll break it down. Here he is, Jonathan.
Interviewer
Now the president is putting another stipulation. He wants his Save America act, which is a voter id, although it has other provisions in it, to be attached to fisa. He had a truth social saying that the few Democrats his word are against FISA with or without Bill Pulte going to DNI as acting. What kind of deal is that? Besides, I'm against FISA if it doesn't come with the Save America act full version firmly attached to it. What do you say to the president on that?
John Thune
Well, we've had the vote on the full version twice now. So the full version is five components and it's photo id, it's registration or citizenship in order to register to vote, no biological boys and girls sports bans, mail in voting and it does away with trans surgeries for minors, which we've all I'm for and a lot of us are. But that only got and those five
Interviewer
things are fairly practical in the Republican caucus.
John Thune
They are. I mean, those are things that but we did, we only got 48 votes. We had that vote last week on all five components. The only way you can get, you know, obviously get this done is to is to nuke the legislative filibuster. And that is not something that we have anywhere close to the votes to do. So we've had votes. We had it on the floor. It was the pending business in the Senate for a couple of weeks. We've done everything we can to date. We'll continue to put the Democrats on record. The Democrats are voting against an issue that 80 to 85% of the American people are for, and we need to hold them accountable for that.
Interviewer
But the President doesn't seem to understand your math.
John Thune
Yeah, and I get that.
Interviewer
And he's very on conversations with him. How does this go over? Because the way he types it in his true social post, it's pretty aggressive. He thinks you should be doing more,
John Thune
and he's passionate about it. And we are doing everything that we can, but it is a function of math. I mean, we are bound by arithmetic. In the United States Senate, the votes currently aren't there. We will continue to put the Democrats on the record and insist on votes on this. But if you tried to attach it, for example, to fisa, it would tank fisa,
Vince
man, there's a lot in there. Okay, I'll start at the end of that. He goes, if you put this with fisa, it would tank fisa. Let me be more explicit about what he's saying. If you attach election integrity to the government's spying powers, it would tank the government's spying powers. Oh, no.
Audience/Interjections
Oh, no.
Vince
I like what that's your priority. The reason FISA is even ever debated as a subject is not because Americans don't want to spy on foreigners. Of course we do. We want to spy on foreign adversaries to make sure that they're not a threat to the United States. Makes perfect sense to me. Spy on everybody outside of the United States. But the big problem we have with FISA is the abuse of that power to spy on American citizens, which of course has happened over and over, including to the President and the people around him. So that's why we need to fix that. That's issue one. But the other component to this is so long as we're going to pass a renewal to fisa, which, by the way, at this point has lapsed because Democrats have gotten in the way, then at the very least, give us election integrity in the midst of this. So even if you're going to allow the government to have these powers, which should be a little more fettered than they are, rather than unfettered, even if the government's going to continue to have these powers for a time, we need election integrity. How many times can we possibly say this? And the reason John Thune even has to answer questions like this from Brett Baier and has to talk about this issue still, despite the fact that he doesn't want to, is because you don't stop. You are staying in this fight. I am staying in this fight. President Trump with a big old bully pulpit is staying in this fight. And it's driving John Thune and the establishment Republicans crazy. Now, another component to what you just heard him say, he says, well, we'll continue to put Democrats on the record. Bullshit. Excuse me, there's. I know, forgive me, hold up.
Dr. Kevin Roberts
Bull.
Vince
I don't want Democrats on the record. I know what their record is. They hate election integrity. The last thing they want is election integrity. I don't need a vote to prove it. It's not about that. It's about the actual law. Fight for it. Two other big things in this statement that he just made, both of them acts of deception, lies. One of them he referenced, he goes, look, we put it up for a vote last week, it only had 48 votes. Now, this is like a half truth. What John Thune is referencing is last week there was an attempt to add the Save America act by amendment to a reconciliation bill. Now, for those of you who've been with me for a while, you'll know instantly why this is a fool's errand. Because the reconciliation fights, those are budgetary fights. And you can only get them passed through a simple majority of as a budgetary matter, you can't change things in terms of big statutes. You can't do that through reconciliation. So it was already kind of a scam that they were trying to put it in, but it did only get 48 votes in that context. And the four who voted against it were Thumbelina, Mitch, the Glitch, McConnell, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski. They all voted against it. The usual suspects. And then the other Republicans voted for it. Now, that's true in that context, but that's not the context that matters the most. In fact, Mike Lee posted about this last night. Boy, this has got to be ticking off. John Thune, too, in reaction to Thune's commentary and said the version of the bill that he mentioned having only 48 votes is a different bill entirely than the House passed version that everybody in the Senate already supports. The House already passed a version of the Save America act, and it includes all of the critical elements to fixing our elections, all of them. And Mike Lee said everybody in the Senate understands that this is the one that is viable and it's the one that Mike Lee is pushing. And it has already has the support of a simple majority within the conference. Not 48 votes. A majority. While it contains the essential elements of the House passed version of the Save America act, the 48 vote version also contained additional provisions that don't have the support of even a simple majority. If he was determined to mention the bill that received only 48 votes, he should have mentioned the real version that the one the House passed and has the support of a simple majority in the Senate. So Mike Lee is great because he's instantly cutting through the horse crap and going, why are you talking about a bill that doesn't have majority support? Why don't you talk about the bill that does? What are you trying to do here? And the answer to that question obviously is John Thune is trying to suffocate attention on this. He wants to make it seem like it's a fait accompli, that there is no chance of passing this thing. John Thune wants you off of this story. It's not happening. We're staying on it. We stayed on it for a long time. We're going to stay on it even longer. In fact, every time you try and get us off it, we're going to double down our resolve. And here's another thing. John Thune said in that clip, that the only way to get this done is to get rid of the legislative filibuster. That too is not true. Not true. Again, this is something that this audience knew almost exclusively before anybody else was talking about. And thank God everybody else joined in on this. But the reality is that the United States Senate has at its disposal an almost never used tool called the speaking filibuster that would require only a simple majority to get this thing passed. But the downside is that Republican senators would have to endure the verbal nonsense of people like Cory Booker for as long as they can stand on their little feet and throw their little tantrums. So, yeah, it's gonna. It would take a while. In other words, it would take a while. You'd have to endure putting up with every Democrat senator getting two speeches. But after that's over, you can pass this thing with a simple majority. That's it. Once debate concludes, then you're good to go. In fact, the 60 vote threshold is just to end debate. That's why we talk about it, the legislative filibuster. 60 votes to end debate on the bill. But the Senate almost never engages in actual debate on the floor. But if they were to a real speaking filibuster, they could pass this thing With a simple majority, they would just have to put up with Democrats running their socks for a while. All right, fine. Sorry. Is there more important things to do? What's on the list? Exactly. In fact, look, to the extent that they're trying to do anything, Democrats are still getting in the way. That includes with fisa, the FISA extension. And that brings me to the bomb that the President of the United States dropped overnight on Monday. I told you, pay attention to what is going on in the office of the Director of National Intelligence right now. Something very interesting is happening because remember Tulsi Gabbard leaving the administration because her husband has cancer and she needs to attend to him. The President, in an effort to replace her, has tapped Bill Palti to take the job on on an acting basis. And he's given Bill Palti two big tasks. One is to clean out the intel community. The other is election integrity, to expose what the government knows about the theft or meddling in elections going on in the United States of America. That's a big deal. And it's a continuation of what Tulsi Gabbard started. It's a very big deal. There's plenty of reason to believe that Bill Pulte is the guy to do this, because he has been unashamed about going after powerful people. Their station in life has not at all impeded him from going after them. Which is good, because last I checked, nobody's above the law. So when he's going after, you know, these various people with, you know, these Democrats especially, who have multiple houses with these ridiculous mortgage rates that they shouldn't have because they're not all their primary residents, Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell, all these people, then maybe he's the right guy to do this job, too. Somebody who's brave, somebody who's not intimidated by power, can go in there and do this job. So the President tapped him to do it. Now, this caused an upheaval in the Senate. Senate Republicans recoiled at this. They hated this. Senate Democrats really hate this. And over the weekend, I saw a couple of truth social posts from the President that definitely caught my attention. Because in. In light of the fact that Bill Pulte is the hated guy in the Senate, they said, look, we're not renewing FISA unless we get a commitment that Bill Pulte is not going to actually be the lasting Director of National Intelligence. So the President did this. He goes, okay, I'll tell you what, he'll just be the acting guy. He'll leave. He'll leave And I'm going to nominate the current U.S. attorney in New York, Jay Clayton. I'll make him the Director of National Intelligence. I'm going to make him the nominee. So he did. This was cause for celebration, especially among Senate Republicans, especially among establishment Senate Republicans, which instantly caught my attention. Remember this because on Monday, I told you. Hold up. Thumbelina loves this guy. Jay Clayton, what's that about? Mitch McConnell loves this guy. They instantly released statements saying, he's wonderful. We can't wait to confirm him. The hell's going on with this? And they were so eager to confirm this guy, they scheduled his confirmation hearing for today. It's supposed to be this afternoon, depending on when you're listening to this program. Wednesday is what I'm referencing. Wednesday afternoon was supposed to be the hearing, but now I'm telling you it was supposed to be the hearing because the President just upended everything. He's overseas, but he's still got his eyes on the United States of America. I've got some great breaking news to share with you. The President of the United States upending this whole thing and making a new demand for the Save America Act. It's all ahead on this edition of Vince. Wanna thank great sponsor for supporting the program. And that's Dose for Cholesterol. Dose for Cholesterol. You know, a lot of people hesitate when they're told they might need to start taking something for cholesterol. People want to feel like they still have a say in how they take care of themselves. And that's why more people are turning to gentle alternatives made with ingredients they recognize, like Coq 10, ginger, pomegranate, amla. And one of those options is Dose for Cholesterol. 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The Senate thought they could rush Jay Clayton through and, and that, that we wouldn't have to worry, worry about Bill Pulte doing any damage by, you know, firing intel community people revealing election meddling secrets. Amazing. So here's what the President did overnight. In fact, this was just a few hours ago. This would be early this morning, 3:54am Eastern Time. He's, he's operating on European time though, right now. And here's what the President said. He goes. The Republicans agreed with the Democrats. Democrats to remove a very fair and talented William Pulte from serving as acting DNI in return for getting FISA approved by the Democrats. However, the Republicans moved so fast with the hearings of the great Jay Clayton, current U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, that Palti would be gone before the Democrats would even vote for fisa. So now the Democrats are saying they will vote against fisa. So the Republicans wound up having fulfilled their commitment, but Democrats broke the deal. In addition, the newly nominated U.S. attorney Jamie McDonald, this is the replacement for New York that Trump has nominated. Must be confirmed. And blue slipped because of the ridiculous views of Republicans on blue slipping. Blue slipping. Everybody knows what blue slipping is, right? If you don't, it's a very simple concept and it's a very corrupt concept that any senator can stop a U.S. attorney or federal judge nominee in their own state from getting the job if they want. So Adam Schiff can stop all of the President's picks in California. Isn't that crazy? It's not a law. It's not even an official rule. It's just a custom in the Senate. Chuck Grassley uphelds it. If you'd like to direct your ire on that particular subject to anybody, direct it to Chuck Grassley. Grassley's been great on a whole bunch of subjects and not this one. And also John Thune, while you're at it, copy him on this because he upholds the blue slip, too. So the President's saying this is idiotic because of the ridiculous views of Republicans on blue slipping. Democrats are often willing to nix it. I may not be able to get the extraordinary Sullivan and Cromwell partner Jamie approved, and I don't want to take Jay Clayton away from the great job he's doing until Jamie's in place. Therefore, to add a slight bit of intrigue, but for the good of the nation and the people of our country. I will not approve FISA without the Save America act going along with it. It's not complicated. Actually, the Republicans fell into a trap, says the President, regarding the approval of our great patriot, Jay Clayton. We are canceling the Senate hearing today and will not be going Forward until Jamie McDonald is approved to be U.S. attorney. In the meantime, Bill Palty will remain as the acting Director of National Intelligence. Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump. I. I think this is great. I think this is absolutely wonderful. And I guarantee that as all of these senators are waking up this morning and rubbing their widow eyes and looking at their phones, they're freaking out. They're like, what the hell? I. I thought this was over. I thought we got past this. The Save America Act. Why does this keep coming up? Bill Pulte, Why is he the Director of National Intelligence? Why do good things keep happening to the country? I just need to get past this. I'm sorry, you're not going to be able to get past it. In fact, we're going to get rid of you. We're gonna John Cornyn, every last one of you. We're gonna Bill Cassidy, every last one of you. We're gonna Thumbelina, every last one of you until we get our way. And we're not asking for a lot. I'm not asking for you to cut me a check. I'm not asking for you to do something corrupt for me or anything like that. I'm not asking for like a shakedown, Gavin Newsom style. I'm asking for election integrity. I'm asking for decency in the United States of America. Incredible elections, not asking for that much. And if you can't even deliver on this, get the hell out of the way. So the President is playing hardball here with the Senate. He's going, that's fine. That's fine. You want to rush this through to upend my ability to clean up the intel community and expose all of this election nonsense. You want to rush this through and not give me the Save America Act? What's the expression? Homie don't play that. Homie don't play that. Donald Trump don't play that. So he's got a new game. Do what I told you to do. Look forward to the drama on this subject today. I knew. I knew something was coming on this. It was. It was the. The. Remember we. How many people were flagging this in the chat on Monday? I was like, this seems interesting. What the hell's going on in the Senate. Why is Thumbelina walking around with a smile on his face? That's not a good sign. And suddenly President Trump intercepted all of it, which I really, really enjoy. I think. I think that's. That's very good stuff. All right, let's. We'll leave the Save America act there for now because we've got a lot more to get to, including this, this memorandum of understanding. Here's. Here's what we know first and foremost, as I've been telling you, keep your head. The. The amount of people who have lost their damn minds this week is. Well, one is. It's kind of amusing in a way, but it's sad, actually, because this idea, like when Lindsey Graham is like, I'm not sure to trust the Iranians or Trump. You've lost the plot, dude. You've lost the plot. You spend your whole career telling us we can't trust the Iranians. Rightly so. And then at this moment, when the President is trying to figure out a deal to keep them from getting a nuclear weapon, you're saying that maybe the Iranians are more trustworthy than the President. That's cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. And you need to settle down. I mean, that's. That's truly. That's truly demented, like you hit your head or something. And there's a lot of that going around right now. Trust the president on this. He's handling it. And let me offer this other thing about. About Iran that I don't think is being said enough, and I think the vice President would do well to remind people of this. If we didn't get a deal at all. Let's just pretend for a moment there was no deal, no negotiated deal, no memorandum of understanding, no deal, no nothing. If we didn't get anything, if we pulled up stakes today, brought all the troops home, and just went back to whatever the, quote, status quo was before the war started, Iran is still set back decades. They're economically decimated. They're militarily decimated. Their actual nuclear program is literally decimated. It's a skyscraper underground. The idea that somehow Iran is, quote, emerging from this stronger is moronic nonsense. It's just people who are repeating it because they want the war to go to a new level. That's all. They're just trying to prejudice the public into taking their view on this subject by lying to you about the current state of affairs. So how about this? If you want to make a great case for something, just tell the truth about what's actually going on. And the truth is, Iran is set back dramatically. This is so stupid, the whole thing. I can't even believe the hysterics around this subject. And in fact, I'll just give you an example of this because it's really easy to understand when you see these parties. Here's the great Vice President of the United States going against the ridiculous Jessica Tarlov yesterday on, on the Five talking about this. And Tarlov's like, well, I think this is a terrible situation. And Vance is like, I hate to tell you, sweetheart, you're falling for Iranian propaganda.
J.D. Vance
Cut 3 watch report last night was meaningful where they said that CIA Director Ratcliffe, Rubio and Hegseth based American intelligence were doubting the kind of results they thought we could get out of this deal.
Vince
That the.
Marco Rubio
Yeah, so just a couple of things because I think you're making the same mistake, unfortunately, that a lot of the Iranian propagandists make when they talk about
Vince
this, which is the Wall Street Journal.
Marco Rubio
They talk about the benefits to the Iranians without any of the things the Iranians would have to give up and have to change in order to get those benefits. So you mentioned a $300 billion fund. I got to be very clear about this. Not a single cent of American money under any circumstance, no matter what the Iranians do, goes to Iran. Not a single cent of American money.
J.D. Vance
Other money.
Marco Rubio
Here's, here's what this says. This says, for example, let's say that the United Arab Emirates, who have been a great ally, let's say they want to invest in a power plant in Iran. What this deal provides is that if the Iranians have done everything we require them to do, then we will allow the United Arab Emirates to do that because they can't do that right now without American approval. So we're fundamentally saying if the Iranians transform how they interact with the world, we will transform how the world economy interacts with Iran. But if they don't do any of that stuff, they don't get any of these benefits. So I think all the Democrats who are saying, well, the Iranians get all these things, they don't get anything unless the total. Unless there's been a complete transformation of how Iran interacts with the world, that would be a huge win for America. And to Jesse's point, if they don't do any of these things, we don't give them anything. They don't receive anything. Their nuclear program is still destroyed, their military is still destroyed, their missile program and industrial base is still destroyed. We fundamentally have Transformed the Middle East. Whether they comply or not, this is just icing on the cake. Assuming they do all the right things.
J.D. Vance
Can I just take a little. And then obviously it goes to Greg. So I guess two things. One, there's already been reporting that the Qataris have been paying off the Iranians to get them to.
Marco Rubio
I've seen the report, by the way, and we have a great relationship with the Qataris.
J.D. Vance
It's just no money has exchanged hands. Iran has not gotten a single dollar from any Gulf partners. Okay. And again, lots of criticism from the Republican side of this as well. It is a bipartisan concern.
Marco Rubio
Well, I think, look, some of the criticism comes from the fact that if Donald Trump were elected the supreme Leader of Iran, the Democrats would still say that the United States had lost this,
Vince
by the way, I didn't give the vice president enough credit. He said exactly what I said, which is like, they've already been utterly decimated. Just to be clear on the circumstances right now. And if that's not good enough for you, if the vice President of the United States is not good enough, how about the President of the United States? Here he is this morning at the G7 saying, Look, it's really clear here. If Iran screws this up, we are punching them directly in the face. Watch this.
Audience/Interjections
Is the tax.
Vince
The agreement now final or are you still.
Audience/Interjections
No, it's not final. It's a memorandum of understanding. And if I don't like it, we'll go back to shooting at them, dropping bombs on their head. What do you expect? If I don't like it, if they don't behave, we'll go right back to dropping bombs right smack in the middle of their head. Okay? Because they've misbehaved for 47 years. All right, does it include him? But nobody could have made this deal. I mean, the JCPOA done by Obama, he handed him 1 billion 7 in cash, gave him hundreds of millions of dollars. Hundreds of. Gave him billions and billions of dollars. But he gave him $1.7 billion in cash, green cash from banks into a Boeing 757 and flew it into Iran. And they stood at the plane. I have pictures of it, like, oh, my, look at this money he's giving us. He tried to bribe his way out. I didn't do that. Nobody mentions that. 1.7 billion and hundreds of millions of dollars. They tried to bribe their way out of it. And you know what the Iranians did? They laughed at Obama and they said, he's a stupid son of a bitch.
Vince
I Like that, that was generational. He's, he's cranking out some good clips lately. All right, I've got more to get to on this subject and so much more. All ahead with my great guest, Dr. Kevin Roberts from the Heritage Foundation. Stand by for that. I want to thank two quick great sponsors for our program who do make this all possible though, and that is Rumble Wallet. Rumble Wallet today, sponsoring the program. We love Rumble so much. It's a great platform to communicate for free speech. And Rumble Wallet is such a great platform for helping you to control your own money. How much control do you have over your own money right now? Technology is very rapidly changing how this works. Crypto is of course now mainstream. Faster payments, more control, fewer middlemen. It's. And it's easier to start than you think. You see, with Rumble Wallet you can buy Bitcoin, you can hold dollar backed stablecoins, even own digital gold backed by real gold all in one place. It's a non custodial crypto wallet, which means you not a bank or a platform control. Access to your funds setup is very simple. Connect with Moonpay so you can use your debit card, credit card or bank account and start in minutes and for a limited time, if you're among the first 500 to activate your rumble account. You could get $10 in US stablecoin by downloading the Rumble Wallet and entering my exclusive promo code Vince10. That's Vince in the number 10. If you sign up right now, you can even use your Rumble Wallet to support your favorite Rumble creators, like yours truly. So scan the QR code that you see on screen. I never do this correctly.
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Vince
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Dr. Kevin Roberts
Thanks for having me, Vince, and thanks for everything you're doing. A lot of news going on today. And actually, I think you and I believe it's all good, contrary to what many say.
Vince
Yeah. What is that? Why is that? So I've, you know, one of the things I've identified this week is that on one side you have people who say that President Trump is a puppet of Netanyahu. On the opposite side, you have people who say that he's being played like a fiddle by Iran. It seems impossible that both of those things can be true. And I would submit that neither of them are true.
Dr. Kevin Roberts
No, it's true. It's interesting. And some of these people who are saying that explicitly or insinuating it really effectively of, you know, persuading some Americans about that, but know Donald Trump well. I mean, to your point, they know that this is someone who is probably the least likely person on the planet to be anyone's puppet. And then in addition to that, if you think about the foreign policy success this term, Vince, along with the foreign policy success in the first term, there hasn't been an American president in modern history who deserves more of the benefit of the doubt than Donald Trump. And these same people who say he's either a puppet of Netanyahu or is sort of operating slavishly to the supreme leader of Iran, forget that. This is someone who has basically reestablished geopolitics in a way that no American president has done in modern history. And I think he deserves A lot of credit. And at the very least, at the very least, to sum up here, he deserves a few days for the actual text of the MOU to be released.
Vince
Yes, that's right. Which they say will be released by week's end. They have an official signing ceremony on Friday. They had an electronic signature on Monday. You know, I, There are, there are elements here, like, I'll get, I've gotten a lot of social media posts about this, and by the way, like, lots of good faith exchanges on the subject. People are sincere in their, in their views. I'm not discounting that at all. But like, for instance, one that I get from time to time is like, well, why isn't he rescuing all of the Iranian people right now? He's selling them out. And I look at this and I think, how is this. I don't understand exactly how this is a sellout. Is it ideal that the Iranian regime has any of these Muslim mullah clerics still in place? No, it's not ideal, but I think President Trump has come to a realization that few in Washington have, that this pursuit of some sort of utopia where everything is exactly as you devised in your bedroom is never gonna actually be the way that the world conducts its affairs. And it certainly sometimes invites more chaos. I mean, we saw what happened in Iraq and Afghanistan, especially in Iraq. And I think the President learned lessons from those conflicts and said, okay, how can I achieve the best possible outcome with the fewest American lives expended in the process?
Dr. Kevin Roberts
No, that's the remarkable thing about this, is it's so thoughtful, it is so oriented around peace, but peace with real strength. I mean, there are some of the president's critics this week who are arguing that the MoU is too weak, even though we don't know the final text, who forget that it's Trump more than any other president, who has this conservative sense of foreign policy. But at his core, he's someone who doesn't want to put American lives at risk if he can avoid it. And he's achieved that. We've seen it in Venezuela, we've seen it in Iran. And it would seem as if, given this pragmatism that sort of transcends the two ideological poles in our politics, that people would give him more time, but they're not going to. And the real problem isn't just the left, It's a handful of voices on the right. And look, I want a steel man, not straw man there, argument to steel man. Their argument, they believe, and they're beginning to say explicitly that if the President has gone this far already, then there ought to be regime change. They're. One of these interlocutors has said there ought to be American boots on the ground. The President apparently disagrees with that. We at Heritage disagree with that. There is a way forward on this to actually achieve peace, generational peace, if not permanent peace, that really deserves a heck of a lot more credit than the President is getting from some of his supposed friends.
Vince
Well, I think one of the motivators for the president is merely apparently not what he just believes, but also what he thinks the voters are interested in. Because he was asked, as I think it was last week, he was asked about Carg island and whether or not he would stage an invasion of Carg Island. And he goes, look, we might do that, but the truth is, like, the American people don't want that. He said out loud in his interviews, it's actually what the voters want. And there's not an appetite for that, where there's not an appetite for deploying troops in this way. And that is an unusual characteristic to have an American leader who actually gives a crap about what the voters think on this subject.
Dr. Kevin Roberts
No, it's so true. It's so impressive to me. What we've been saying at Heritage for the last few months is there are two competing goods here. On the one hand, the good of eliminating the military and nuclear threat of Iran, and on the other hand, the good of getting this president, who's so good on domestic policy, especially the economy, to have the time and the political economy, political capital to spend on that issue. And we want both of those to be the case. Right. And so what's reflected in the president's explicit statement that you cited, Vince, is that understanding why does he have that? Is it just some, you know, remarkable gift of instinct? Yes, but it's because he listens to normal, everyday Americans who are saying, sir, we support you. We certainly support our troops. We even support a world in which Iran is less powerful. But we really love it when you spend time on domestic policy, especially the economy. Could you please get back to that? And I think that's what the President's doing.
Vince
Yeah, there's a lot of interesting dynamics here. I mean, I think at its core, I mean, and what I feel so blessed about is that I feel like I'm unencumbered by all these competing interests. I just care about the truth and the best outcome for the American people. And I look at this clearly. If you are zealous about the Iranian regime and you think that there's just no way the President can bring them to heal. You think this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to destroy them. So you're like, man, we've gone this far. Let's finish this, finish the job. Let's finish them off. And the President saying, look, I know what you want, I get it. But we've seen this play out before, and it's been an utter disaster. ISIS was created out of this kind of thinking, so let's not do that. Let's settle down and see if we can figure out the best return on investment here. And I just wish the cooler heads would prevail. I really think that if just people just told the truth, that that would be the best thing. The other piece here, I think, Kevin, is that I think that a lot of this also has to do with 2028 politics too. I think people are trying to inject a lot of, like, Marco Rubio vs. JD Vance nonsense into the middle of all of this. And what I find so funny about that is, first and foremost, it was President Trump who asked JD to run the negotiations to begin with. So it's President Trump's judgment that led to this. And then Marco Rubio is seated alongside President Trump at the G7, supporting him every step of the way. Rubio's not crapping on this. Rubio is a part of the negotiating team to make it happen. And yet there are people trying to pit these two guys against each other in a world where it seems like they're not actually pitted against each other at all in real life.
Dr. Kevin Roberts
And both men, both the Vice President and the Secretary of State, both of whom have done exceptional jobs, continue to say there's no rivalry. The Secretary of State has said explicitly he's not running for the Republican presidential nomination in 2028 if Vice President Vance runs. I know Rubio well enough to know he's an honest man. He's a man of his word. But if you take a step back and ask yourself, why is this happening? It has everything to do with this split in conservative foreign policy that we at Heritage have not only observed, but we've sort of been part of that right in saying that peace through strength is actually making sure that you have a much more restrained, non interventionist foreign policy. And there are people who, although they are a minority of the conservative movement now, and I say this respectfully of them, Vince, I disagree with them, but I. I respect them. There are people in that minority opinion who want to sort of impose upon someone like Rubio this belief that they can resurrect the interventionist foreign policy, say, of George W. Bush. And the most charitable thing I can say about that is we've tried that and it didn't work. And the president, to your earlier point, has learned that lesson. And we all ought to learn that lesson so that we can do the great work of the American people.
Vince
Can I. Let me ask a question about Rubio. And I don't know how well you know him, but I do know that there's a Heritage touchpoint to Rubio's career right now. There's a guy, Mike Needham, who went from Heritage, started working with Rubio. He's often credited as helping Rubio along the way of becoming a much better American politician, the truth be told. And when I think of Rubio's career, I'm nervous about him. Early on, about a decade ago or so, when he was on board with Lindsey Graham on an amnesty package, he was a part of what they called at the time the Gang of Eight immigration bill. Graham Nisty, some people referred to it as. And there was Rubio, like, rooting it on, you know. And in fact, Rubio, actually, I think he blurbed JFK's book, Nation of Immigrants. His name is on the COVID which is kind of annoying. I'm like, don't buy into that crap. Why are you involved in this garbage? But then in recent times, it seems like that he's gone through, as far as I can tell, a kind of genuine evolution, like one where he's realized, in a way, the error of his ways and a sincere concern about American sovereignty. Now, that didn't exist before, and I don't know, what do you see in your proximity to him?
Dr. Kevin Roberts
That's exactly what I see. And I'll answer the core of your question. But I just want to pass along a compliment to Mike Needham, who was the first president of Heritage Action 16 years ago. And Needham is just one of the best people in our business, so whomever he would be working with or for would benefit from his counsel on Rubio. I would say this. I sort of see it through my own evolution, as we've discussed on foreign policy. Ruby and I are about the same age, and he and I have talked about this, that I'm, as I say, a recovering neocon. I was fully supportive of the Iraq war. I was in academia at the time, the only conservative defending President Bush and our policies. And then I realized about five years later that it was a fool's errand. And I say that respectfully of the former president and certainly of all of our military personnel who were there. I think Rubio's undergone the same transition. And maybe it has something to do with being Generation Xers that we definitely find appealing the piece through strength, language. But we also understand that the United States can't afford to do that. We literally being $37 trillion in debt, can't afford to do that. And Rubio is smart enough, I think, to have seen that, and it's been wonderful to see this evolution from that, but also from the Gang of Eight amnesty, which I was not supportive of any. And that happens. And I think there's a certain humility there, intellectually, politically, that is wanting in Washington, and I think that's very endearing.
Vince
I detect that in J.D. vance as well. J.D. vance, he admitted as much yesterday in his interview with the View. He's like, yeah, I was dumb about these things. I thought the President was wrong. I thought President Trump was wrong. And then he proved me wrong when he succeeded in raising wages for working people all across the country. And I said it wasn't gonna happen, and it did. So I have the humility to admit I was wrong. And I actually took that as kind of a backhanded assessment of the View. Women who have no humility and no capability to admit they're wrong ever.
Dr. Kevin Roberts
No, I was just about to say that that attribute of humility that is apparent to me in Rubio, the vice president has in spades, right. And you've seen it in all the media that he's done just by virtue of being on the View with these crazy women, which we ought to do. We ought to, even as ridiculous as it may, I had some friends at Heritage say, why is he doing that? I said, it's great. As ridiculous as it may seem, it's important that we try to go model this civil discourse. It's never going to be reestablished if we on the right don't try to do that.
Vince
Also, I like watching an unfair fight occasionally when my guy's winning it easily. I enjoy watching those. Hey, before we let you go today, I know you're also very concerned about the Save America Act. I started the show on that subject today. John Thune gave a series of nonsensical answers on the subject yesterday to Bret Baier, which were designed to conceal the fact that he kind of wants this issue to definitely go away. The last thing he wants to do is keep talking about it. And the President keeps pulling rabbits out of his hat overnight. He said, yeah, I'm pulling my DNI nominee Jay Clayton. And I'm gonna annoy you in the Senate until you give me the Save America Act. So what do you make of this fight?
Dr. Kevin Roberts
Let me really clear. The Heritage foundation and Heritage action support that 100%. We've been saying for months it may be the only way to get Save America act passed is to attach it to fisa. And so I applaud the President for what he's doing. And I just have to observe respectfully of Leader Thune. I'm with Heritage, is with Senator Mike Lee on this. How Thune described the situation and the rules of the Senate yesterday are wrong. It's just utterly wrong. The way you do this is to actually force debate. And you ultimately, as Mike Lee has outlined so well for many months, there is a way forward. It's really important we get this done if we want to secure our elections. And I just have to take a moment. Even though you've explained Save America well, Vince, over many months to remind people all this is, is voter identification and making sure that you're a citizen to be voting in our elections. It's not controversial. It's an 80 20, if not an 8515 issue. We're totally with the president. We need to get this done, and we need to get it done this summer.
Vince
And finally, because Heritage Action, I know for years has had this. This scoring system whereby you score people based on how conservative you think they are, based on their actual behavior in Congress. And it is. I know it's led to some consternation from time to time among Republicans. They don't like when they get scored negatively. Is it possible to score them on their behavior around this issue? In other words, this is not technically, in some cases, a vote. It's really an appetite to actually use the rules of the Senate to get this done. Could you envision a score on this subject that it'll hurt you if you fail to push the Save America act back through?
Dr. Kevin Roberts
Sure. I mean, for. For all of us at Heritage Action, which. Which publishes our school card, we easily could envision that world. We're not only monitoring this closely, but working feverishly behind the scenes to. To help the Senate force a vote on this. The great thing about this is just to paint a. A positive picture for senators who may be worried is it's really popular.
Audience/Interjections
The. The.
Dr. Kevin Roberts
The. The conservative base will turn out in the midterms if you go do this. This is one of the reasons we need to do it.
Vince
Yep, yep.
John Thune
Yeah.
Vince
Two big reasons. One, make sure the elections are secure. And get your voters to show up. In fact, it's like the kind of the whole point, it's like, when you do good things, we reward you with more votes. Thank you very much. Dr. Kevin Roberts, Heritage Foundation. Thanks for your great leadership at that organization and for your time.
Interviewer
As always, sir.
Dr. Kevin Roberts
Thanks, Vince. Take care. Areas.
Vince
Kevin Roberts. Great to talk to him. Glad to have him in the fight. Yeah, he's great. The chat loves having Kevin Roberts. Yeah, no, it's interesting. I'm always interested. Look, the truth is one of the reasons why I wanted to dive into kind of the subtext stories which I'm always doing. Like, why is everyone acting crazy about this? There's a lot of. There's just a lot of subtextual fighting going on. There's a lot of 20, 28 bracketing going on. People are trying to, you know, prejudice your views towards people, whether it's J.D. vance or Marco Rubio. There's all sorts of competing interests, obviously, that are at play. And, you know, as much as you can just, like, put them out in the open and discuss them, and it really informs your ability to understand what the hell's even going on. And it goes back on Iran. As always, the president deserves immense credit for setting that terrorist regime back by many decades. And now where do we go from here? He's trying to navigate to something great, and if it doesn't go his way, what did he say? He's gonna drop a bomb on their heads. Yeah, I think we're in good hands. I think we're.
Audience/Interjections
Hey, there.
Paula Pan
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J.D. Vance
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Vince
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Audience/Interjections
Watch this.
Dan Rosen
Today a federal indictment was unsealed charging 15 defendants with conspiracy to impede or injure federal officers and other charges related to efforts of two Minneapolis based antifa groups that violently opposed the enforcement of federal law in our state. The defendants are members and associates of Direct Action Minnesota. They are charged with conspiracy to impede or injure a federal officer, solicitation to commit a crime of violence, interstate threats, interstate stalking, assault on a federal officer, and destruction of government property. Earlier this morning, agents of Homeland Security Investigations conducted a coordinated law enforcement operation culminating in the arrest of 12 of the 15 defendants. One defendant had already been in custody on other federal charges. Two defendants remained fugitives at large. Today's charges and arrests reflect a broad federal effort to address organized lawless behavior which seeks to disrupt the execution of federal law, endanger law enforcement, and importantly, endanger the very communities that these defendants falsely claim to be protecting.
Vince
I mean, these are the people who were attacking law enforcement, burning things down, rioting night after night, issuing verbal threats, saying they were going to take up arms, kill ICE agents. They're all being arrested. They're all being arrested now, which is, which is wonderful. And this is just the latest round of arrests on this subject. Justice keeps coming. This is one of those stories, I think sometimes, you know, you and I have friends who are like, none of these people. Do they ever get arrested? The answer is yes. And oftentimes we talk about the arrest and then we move on. And then sometimes I even forget the number of people have been arrested. So this is great news and I will encourage it every time I see it. Arrest the insurrectionists and keep going even further. Don't just get the Indians, get the chiefs. Go after everybody who's organizing this garbage and setting it all up. In fact, here's the U.S. attorney explaining a little bit more about the organization that's involved. It's called Direct Action Minnesota. D A M N. Yeah, it's called DAM,
Interviewer
of course.
Vince
Here's the U.S. attorney explaining their militancy. Here's a little bit of that. Cut 6.
Dan Rosen
As the name suggests, Direct Action Minnesota is an order is an organization dedicated to direct action against federal law and immigration enforcement. This action is not peaceful. It's obstructed, disruptive and unlawful. The organization trains its members in the aggressive use of shields against law enforcement surveillance, operational planning, and rapid mobilization against law enforcement actions. Though investigations are ongoing, what we know now is that Direct Action Minnesota is comprised of members of subgroups, for example, the Black Hat Workers Collective. The Black Hat Workers Collective is a Minneapolis based antifa affinity group which advocates, promotes and utilizes militant tactics and violence. Here you can see that their Facebook cover pages, that their Facebook cover page shows as a banner the burning down of the Minneapolis Police Department's threat precinct terrorists. One of the leaders of Direct Action Minnesota defending Kyle Wagner, identifies himself as Antifa. He doesn't shy away from it.
John Thune
Listen to that.
Kyle (Antifa member)
My name is Kyle. I'm Antifa. And there's so much rage in me that I've had to record this like 15 times trying to get the message out. They up. Okay, go watch my other videos. Doesn't matter. If you're not here and you're not caught up, you've missed the fight. But if you are, it's time to suit up. Boots on the ground. Nicolette and 26th. My house is four blocks away. Anywhere between Franklin and Nicolet and 26th and Nicolet show up.
Vince
He's such an idiot.
Kyle (Antifa member)
Ready to go? Okay. No, no. Not talking about peaceful protests anymore. We're not talking about having polite conversations anymore. I am talking specifically to my followers. This is everything I have fucking talked about. And this is exactly what I said was gonna happen. This is exactly what I said was gonna fucking come when we didn't fucking go and march on fucking Whipple with guns.
Vince
So that's antifa, Kyle, That's. And we've seen him before. He's been arrested before. Here he is being arrested again for his never ending crimes as the feds crack down on that guy. Charged again. I actually don't know the status of his, his current, you know, detention, but he's being charged again by the feds, which is good news. So they're busting all of these guys. Now. You would think at a press conference like this, with this kind of important news about the public safety of Minneapolis, that the reporters that are in attendance would ask questions like how much more of a threat exists? Are you gonna take down other people soon? What about the leadership of this organization? Tell us more about public safety. But instead of that, the questions consisted of crap like are you sure they're Antifa? Is Antifa even a real group? Listen to this. Cut 7. A real question and answer. Watch.
Audience/Interjections
How would you.
Vince
How is doj? How do you define antifa? What is antifa?
Dan Rosen
So what is antifa? Goes beyond. Goes beyond, I think the scope of what this indictment is. But what we can tell you is that we have plenty of people that self identify in that way and you might want to ask them that question. Affiliating with this group, if it is even a group, It's a crime to conspire for the purpose of impeding or injuring federal officers. It's a crime to conspire together in order to commit crimes of violence. It's a crime to get together, to stalk. It's a crime to get together, to make threats. It's a crime to get together to assault felonies, federal officers. It's a crime to get together, to destruct, to destroy federal property.
Interviewer
Yes.
Vince
It's not a crime to have stupid opinions. It's a crime to try and hurt people. How is this so hard to understand? You know, it's just. It's like, is that a real reporter? Who is that person? What is antifa? Is antifa even really a real thing? Yes. How do you know they're antifa?
Marco Rubio
I don't know.
Vince
Here's a way. You ready? Let's take a look at this. What about this?
Kyle (Antifa member)
What is.
Vince
What am I looking at, Chad? What is this? For those of you listening on the audio podcast, this is antifa Kyle being arrested. And I swear there's evidence in this photo that seems to indicate that he's antifa. What could the evidence possibly be? Maybe it's I'm antifa written on his freaking sweatshirt. How do we know this guy's antifa?
Paula Pan
Because.
Vince
Because he's the single dumbest criminal that I've ever seen. He was telling people where he lives. I live four blocks away from the building. I think everyone needs to take up arms. We got to kill all the ICE officials. I'm antifa. Like, dude, did Donald Trump hire you? Like, it's so ridiculous. Yeah, he's the Knights of Columbus. Yeah, that's right. He's just a. He's just a choir boy. Look at that guy. There's. There's something wrong in that man's soul. He's got to get right with Jesus. Look at the. I'm antifa. Anyway, the point is there's just no way to tell. There's no way to know if he's antifa or not. Those guys, those guys got busted. So that's good news.
Audience/Interjections
What?
Vince
What a bunch of good news to get as we. As we barrel through the week. Although I should tell you that that good news led to more wailing. What is it? What is again? Wailing and gnashing of teeth. This time, outside of that federal courthouse, as they were announcing the charges yesterday. Here's antifa rioting again yesterday. Watch this and pay special attention if you're watching rubble.com Vince. To the antifa rioter who gets thrown to the ground like a rag doll.
John Thune
Watch.
Vince
There they are attacking the building. The cops come up. Watch this cop come up and throw. Ready? Here it comes. It's getting closer. Three, two, Boom. That was a good throw. That was a great. That was a satisfying throw. Andy. No catching this footage. Andy knows.
John Thune
Great.
Vince
We're rioting. They're rioting because rioters have been charged. You know, it's funny, I saw somebody on X post about this. They're like, why is it that there's never any consequences for this kind of rioting? I'm like, well, I don't know. They're literally rioting because there have been consequences for the rioters.
Interviewer
So
Vince
don't say there are no consequences. There are definitely consequences and there should be more like this. Boom, boom. I could watch that on there.
Audience/Interjections
I was.
Vince
I actually was watching it for like way too long this morning. I kept watching it over and over. I was like, that's a funny clip. Josh thought so too, so we edited it. It's almost as good as when Catabaga's Acabago got thrown down in Illinois. That was a good one. When she got thrown and she bounced off of her little rear end on the ground. That was really good. Well, we'll keep our eyes open for videos like that. Justice served. It's one of my favorite genres of video. As always, great to have you with us. Appreciate you for being here. The best audience anywhere. I've got the big national radio show coming up today, the VIN Show.com for your local radio listings. I got two other great programs to tell you about.
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"Trump Admin Announces Charges Against Antifa Insurrectionists"
Host: Vince Coglianese | Cumulus Podcast Network
Guest: Dr. Kevin Roberts (President, Heritage Foundation)
Date: June 17, 2026
This episode of VINCE is packed with political analysis, headline reactions, and sharp commentary on current events. Vince dives deep into three main stories:
The show features a spirited conversation with Dr. Kevin Roberts of the Heritage Foundation, as well as direct audio from senators, administration officials, and recent news events.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
“John Thune is trying to suffocate attention on this…He wants to make it seem like it’s a fait accompli, that there is no chance of passing this thing. John Thune wants you off of this story. It’s not happening.”
— Vince (09:32)
Debunking the Filibuster Myth:
Vince and later Dr. Kevin Roberts hammer the point that the Senate could, via "speaking filibuster," pass the act on a simple majority, calling Thune’s argument "not true."
— [09:52–12:45]
Timestamps:
Key Points:
Notable Quote (Trump statement):
"I will not approve FISA without the Save America Act going along with it. It’s not complicated… In the meantime, Bill Pulte will remain as acting DNI."
— Vince reading Trump statement [23:54]
Vince’s Analysis:
“The President is playing hardball here with the Senate... you want to rush this through and not give me the Save America Act? What’s the expression? Homie don’t play that.”
— Vince [43:00]
Timestamps:
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
“There hasn’t been an American president in modern history who deserves more of the benefit of the doubt than Donald Trump.”
— Dr. Kevin Roberts [34:39]
“If Iran screws this up, we are punching them directly in the face. If they don’t behave, we’ll go right back to dropping bombs right smack in the middle of their head.”
— Trump (G7 press conference, quoted by Vince) [29:52]
Timestamps:
Key Points:
Notable (Humorous) Moment:
“There’s just no way to know if he’s Antifa or not… maybe it’s ‘I’m Antifa’ written on his freaking sweatshirt.”
— Vince, showing audio/video of arrested protester [58:04]
Timestamps:
Quote:
“It’s really popular...the conservative base will turn out in the midterms if you go do this (pass the Save America Act).”
— Dr. Kevin Roberts [48:41]
| Timestamp | Segment/Event | Notable Speakers/Quotes | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 03:08 | Show intro, Save America Act overview | Vince | | 05:54 | Brett Baier–John Thune interview on Save America Act | Thune: “We’ve done everything we can…” | | 09:52 | Vince’s take: “Bullsh*t. I know what their record is…” | Vince | | 12:45 | Breaking down procedural hurdles, Mike Lee’s rebuttal | Vince | | 23:54 | Trump statement tying FISA to Save America Act | Vince reads Trump | | 27:05 | Vance & Rubio debate Iran deal on Fox | Vance, Rubio, Vince | | 29:49 | Trump at G7 on Iran: “If I don’t like it… bombs” | Trump (clip) | | 34:11 | Interview: Dr. Kevin Roberts joins the show | “He deserves more of the benefit of the doubt…” | | 41:18 | Divisions in conservative foreign policy | Roberts explains internal GOP/Heritage dynamics | | 46:47 | Roberts: Attach Save America Act to FISA | “We’re totally with the president. We need to get this done.” | | 51:08 | U.S. Attorney Dan Rosen on Antifa indictment | Details of charges and Antifa/DAMN/Black Hat groups | | 53:43 | Further breakdown of Direct Action Minnesota | Rosen | | 55:03 | “Antifa Kyle” video, calls for violence | Vince mocks, discusses repeat offenses | | 56:46 | Press asks, “What is Antifa?” | Rosen replies | | 58:04 | Vince: “Maybe it’s ‘I’m Antifa’ on his sweatshirt” | Vince | | 59:43 | Riot reactions outside courthouse | Vince coverage and commentary | | 61:01 | Vince recaps: “Justice served. It’s my favorite genre.” | Vince close |
Witty, combative, unapologetically conservative with a strong focus on grassroots activism and holding establishment politicians’ feet to the fire. Vince intersperses serious investigative content with biting humor and mockery of the opposition and “frenemies” within the GOP.
Episode 312 of VINCE is a demonstration of Vince Coglianese’s style: passionate, unfiltered, and detailed. The episode is suited for conservative listeners who want insider analysis of legislative battles, Trump administration strategy, and the government’s crackdown on left-wing rioters. With expert guests, real-time news reaction, and sharp commentary, it’s both an informative briefing and an entertaining listening experience for those keeping up with American politics.