A Ridiculous Apology (Ep. 2508)

Summary

The Dan Bongino Show (Ep. 2508) – "A Ridiculous Apology"

Date: May 5, 2026
Host: Dan Bongino
Guest: Dr. Marty Makari, Commissioner, FDA

---

Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan Bongino dives into government action and judicial overreach, then lays out his optimistic plan for changing America’s political landscape for good. He focuses on the importance of healthy living, notably the “Make America Healthy Again” (MAHA) movement. Special guest Dr. Marty Makari from the FDA discusses the cutting edge of health: food safety, hormone therapy, the food pyramid, and mental health breakthroughs like psychedelics and AI in cancer detection.

The episode is a mix of sharp political commentary and a deep-dive into cultural and medical issues, combining Bongino’s unfiltered analysis with practical advice and interviews with influential policy shapers.

---

Key Discussion Points

1. The Five-Point Plan for Lasting Republican Dominance

[07:12–15:36]

• Dan’s Plan to "Change America Forever":
  • Nuke the filibuster: “We have to nuke this filibuster… The Democrats are going to do it…” (07:37)
  • Pass the SAVE Act: "Proof of citizenship and ID to vote, period. Identification. It’s not hard." (09:02)
  • Reform the Census: Exclude undocumented immigrants from population counts to prevent blue states from gaining political power. (09:47–10:44)
  • End racial gerrymandering: "These racial gerrymanders are done. If Tennessee and others… engage in a fair congressional map… we could pick up four or five more seats." (11:43)
  • Secure the border: Stop the influx of illegal immigrants into the U.S. (11:52)
• Why He’s Confident: Thinks Republican ideas are “just common sense,” in contrast to what he views as failed Democratic policies. (13:45)
• Long Term Impact: "We will not lose an election for 20, 30 years." (12:17)

“We do not have to accept second best… I am so confident… Because the Democrats ideas, ladies and gentlemen, suck.”
— Dan Bongino, [13:43]

---

2. Judicial Overreach and "A Ridiculous Apology"

[04:22–18:35]

• Main Event: Bongino condemns a judge for apologizing to a White House Correspondents' Dinner attempted assassin, using it to exemplify what he sees as runaway judicial activism.
• Judicial Power: "The most powerful branch of government right now is the judicial branch because they're taking up, they just usurp others power." (05:15)
• Warning: If Republicans lose the Senate, activist judges will “bury the country.”

“We can't have… hundreds of magistrates… and Supreme Court justices… who all think they're the commander in chief.”
— Dan Bongino, [18:35]

• Notable Quote:

  Judge (re: suspect): “At a minimum, I should be apologizing to him. We're obligated to make sure he's taken care of. I'm sorry that things have not been the way they're supposed to be.”
  — Quoted by Bongino, [17:26]

---

3. The GOP’s "Deep Bench" and the “Cool Factor”

[19:10–24:38]

• Talent Pipeline: Bongino expresses optimism about the current crop of Republican and MAGA-aligned leaders.
• Praises figures like Marco Rubio (shown DJing), Pete Hegseth (Defense), JD Vance, and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen.
• Emphasizes relatability as a key factor in political success, citing Trump and Rubio.

“Relatability matters in politics, folks ... The king of relatability ... is a billionaire real estate developer who relates to the average guy better than most average guys relate to the average guy.”
— Dan Bongino, [23:07]

---

4. "Make America Healthy Again" (MAHA) Movement

[49:53–56:15]

• Dan spotlights MAHA as an organic, transformative trend in U.S. culture and politics.
• Focus on whole foods, avoidance of processed ingredients and food dyes, and strength/resistance training as essential for healthy aging.
• Showcases inspiring stories: elderly Taiwanese women lifting weights at 89 and 91, and 90-year-old TSA worker Lawrence Santucci.

“You do not have to wither away and die... You do not have to live that way.”
— Dan Bongino, [55:33]

---

5. Feature Interview: Dr. Marty Makari, FDA Commissioner

[62:31–79:26]

Psychedelics for Mental Health

• VA Experience: “We have to listen to the veterans that have had dramatic and profound testimonials… That is data.” (63:13)
• FDA seeks balance: wants solid science and respect for the lived experiences, while ensuring oversight.
• Psychedelics won’t be over-the-counter but medically supervised.

Hormone Replacement Therapy Realities

• Emphasizes evidence overturning old scare tactics about hormone risks—especially for women post-menopause.
• “The risk/benefit ratios for the vast majority of women favor starting it.” (66:37)
• For men, benefits of testosterone are more individualized, but replacing deficient hormones is valid.

The New Food Pyramid & Food Additives

• On Ultra-Processed Food:
  • “We rewrote the food pyramid with USDA to talk about protein and real food versus ultra processed food. ... Food pyramid in the past was written by the food industry. We’re writing it based on good nutrition science.” (71:11)
  • FDA is removing food dyes from children’s foods, targeting chemicals like BHA, BHT, and azodicarbonamide.
• Explains how chemicalized foods trick satiety mechanisms, promoting overconsumption and obesity. (74:04)
• “We are looking at all the chemicals in the food of children. … Kids don’t need more petroleum in their body.” (71:43)

Sugar & Insulin Damage

• “The body will immediately convert it (sugar) to fat and move it to the liver. That’s why liver cancer is going up in the United States.” (76:00)
• “A third of teens from studies now have pre diabetes or diabetes.”

AI in Cancer Detection

• New AI tools can catch pancreatic cancer up to three years earlier through imaging.
• Priority review for new drugs and vaccines — “Three promising data points in the last couple weeks” [77:53]

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Voter ID and the Filibuster:

  “This is not Jim Crow 7.2. Whatever bullshit you’re throwing out there to gin up race hostilities. That is not what’s … This is a mass consensus position every sane, rational, logical voter supports.”
  — Dan Bongino, [09:02]

• On Troubles with the Judiciary:

  “I just need people to rule on the constitutional grounds. Don’t be an activist.”
  — Dan Bongino, [16:24]

• On Processed Foods & Kids:

  “Kids don’t need more petroleum in their body... We're also moving to the next tier of chemicals…”
  — Dr. Marty Makari, [71:43]

• On Personal Agency and Aging:

  “Don’t die. Don’t get dead.”
  — Dan Bongino, [53:04] “You do not have to live that way. You do not put resistance training stress on your bones, they get porous and they break.”
  — Dan Bongino, [55:33]

• On Political Enthusiasm and Optimism:

  “Don’t give in to the doomerism folks. We gotta save the Senate.”
  — Dan Bongino, [36:33]

---

Important Timestamps

• Judicial Power & the Apology: 04:22–18:35
• Five-Point Plan to Change America: 07:12–15:36
• Political “Cool Factor” and Leadership Bench: 19:10–24:38
• Corporate Earnings & Economic Trends: 25:47–29:04
• MAHA Movement, Aging, and Health: 49:53–56:15
• Dr. Marty Makari Interview: 62:31–79:26

---

Episode Takeaways

• Dan Bongino sees the judiciary as the most powerful and dangerous branch, offering a multipoint plan for Republican domination grounded in voting reform, border control, and census changes.
• The MAHA movement isn’t just about policy, but about transformative lifestyle shifts—both for individuals and society.
• Dr. Marty Makari outlines a revolution at the FDA, from rewriting the food pyramid to fast-tracking life-saving medicines and tackling root causes of chronic disease.
• Listeners are encouraged to reject "doomerism," stay politically engaged, demand accountability, and take active responsibility for personal health.
• The episode closes with hope—through technological (AI in medicine) and cultural (MAHA, healthy aging) innovation, America can indeed "make itself healthy again."

---

This summary captures the direct, energetic, and unapologetic style of the show, highlights all important segments, and provides a thorough breakdown for listeners who want sharp takeaways without missing any substance.

Transcript

[Dan Bongino]

All America, all the time.

[Justin]

Sit down, buckle up and get ready

[Dan Bongino]

for the Dan Bongino show. Today is a Make America Healthy Again oriented show. We're gonna have a segment on it. You know, I love this Maha movement. I am fascinated by it. Also we have as a guest today Dr. Marty Makari at HHS working for Secretary Kennedy. We're gonna talk about food dyes, the

[Justin]

food pyramid, some of the stuff that's

[Dan Bongino]

going into your body that they're trying

[Justin]

to get a better hand.

[Dan Bongino]

We're going to talk about psychedelics, psilocybin, ibogaine, AI in cancer. So it's going to be a pretty fascinating conversation. Please don't miss that today. Also I have a segment up before that about this whole movement oriented Make America healthy. Because if you're not healthy folks, you're avoiding Dan Bongino rule number one, which

[Justin]

is don't get dead. Just don't get dead. Whatever you are doing in your life, you should be avoiding getting dead until what was supposed to be your natural expiration date.

[Dan Bongino]

Also in the beginning of the show I've got a couple things for you. A couple important things.

[Justin]

You want to change America forever?

[Dan Bongino]

Well, forever almost, because we don't really know forever. We don't even know how long forever is going to be. I've got a simple, simple five point plan and all of these things are in the news right now. I'm going to tie them all together. Gerrymandering, the save act, the filibuster and a couple more. I've got them all for you.

[Justin]

We do these five things. The Republican party, the conservative movement, the maga movement.

[Dan Bongino]

I promise you promise you will not lose an election anytime in the near future. We just have to do it. All right, Big show today, a lot going on. Hey, when there were supply constraints on commodities prices surge, you saw it with fuel prices with the straight and now you know what else is a limited commodity to gold? I am a big buyer and investor in gold. I love gold. They mine it out of the ground and when it's gone, it's gone. Governments can't just print more gold. It doesn't work that way. That's why everyone from central banks to savvy savers are diversified with gold.

[Justin]

If you've been thinking about it for

[Dan Bongino]

years but have still not moved some of your savings into physical gold, Birch Gold Group is who I trust to help you. They've helped me been a customer many

[Justin]

Times now through May 29, Birch Gold

[Dan Bongino]

is giving a first time gold buyer a rebate of up to $10,000 on qualifying purchases.

[Justin]

For details and a free information kit

[Dan Bongino]

on diversifying it to gold.

[Justin]

Text Dan to the number 989898 Birch

[Dan Bongino]

Gold Birch can help you convert an

[Justin]

existing IRA or 401K into a tax

[Dan Bongino]

sheltered IRA in physical gold. Text Dan to the number 989898 to

[Justin]

see if you qualify for a first

[Dan Bongino]

time gold buyer rebate of up to $10,000. Again, text Dan to 9,898 today or BirchGold. Thank you BirchGold Message and data Rate supply Today's show also brought to you today by American Financing. Speaking of saving money, money belongs in your wallet. Your bank account summer expenses in 2026 are stacking up faster than ever. From those pricey family vacations and record gas prices to looming tuition and camp fees. For many of us, it feels like the only option is swiping the credit card, leaving you trapped in a cycle of high interest debt. Homeowners, American Financing has a way out for you. This isn't about shortcuts. It's a real strategic plan to reset your finances and reclaim your budget. At American Financing, they specialize in building plans tailored specifically to your goals. They look at your current debt and show you exactly how your home's equity can work smarter for you. Imagine rolling that high interest debt into one simple manageable monthly payment. There are no upfront fees and there's zero pressure. Just honest advice from salary based consultants with your interests in mind. On average, their customers are saving $800 a month. That's real financial breathing room.

[Justin]

Start today.

[Dan Bongino]

You may even be able to delay two mortgage payments. So don't wait. American Financing is America's home for home loans. They've been with me a long time. 888-994-7660 is their number. That's 888-994-7660. Or you can visit them at americanfinancing.net bongino that's americanfinancing.net Bongino thank you, American Financing. All right, fellas, let's go.

[Justin]

You want to change America forever?

[Dan Bongino]

Before I get to this ridiculous thing that happened with the judge yesterday and I want to talk about it, the reason I'm tying these stories together because one of the things I always try to avoid with this show is just, you know, repeating things you can see on basically the news every night because you can be like, I heard about that last night. Yeah. But there's a reason.

[Justin]

If you haven't heard about the story

[Dan Bongino]

of the judge, I'll get to it in a second. The suspect in the White House White House Correspondents association dinner attempted assassination attempt is in court and basically the judge apologizes for the conditions. I'll get to that in a second. You want more?

[Justin]

Judges like this?

[Dan Bongino]

Don't vote in the midterms. Don't vote in the midterms. And ladies and gentlemen, you don't have a midterm problem, you have a generational problem because these judgeships are lifetime appointments.

[Justin]

You lose a congressional race, say there's a Republican, I don't care who it is. Incumbent Joey Bag of Donuts in East Tuna Fish. And he loses to a Democrat. That sucks. But you're stuck with the Democrat for two years and you run someone again. There are liberals listening who don't understand civics. If you're a member of the House of Representatives, the United States Congress, you have a two year assignment, that's it. Senate, six years. For some liberals, this is news. You get a judge in there who's a liberal and an activist, you're stuck for life. There's no getting away. And the problem is, while the Constitution, this elegant, glorious document we have, was designed to have three branches of government that are co equal and jealously guard each other's power, that's not what's happening right now. Can we just throw that in the garbage? Bundle that up. Throw it in the garbage. The most powerful branch of government right now is the judicial branch because they're taking up, they just usurp others power. I'm not talking about all judges. I don't stereotype people. But this problem with the judge in this case is not limited to this case. We've had judges telling the President that they're the Commander in Chief, they're going to make military decisions. We've had judges writing law from the bench. You don't see approve it to you. The judiciary is the most powerful because they've usurped power from the other two. You don't see that with the other two branches largely. You don't see members of the House of Representative putting on black robes and trying to officiate over civil matters. Correct. You don't see the President doing the same thing. You want to fix America for a long time. Not two years, not four years, not a six year tenant term, Senate term. Excuse me. You want to fix America and make it lasting.

[Dan Bongino]

Here's what we got to do, ladies and gentlemen. Number one, we have to pass the SAVE Act. I know you've heard it before, but

[Justin]

when you combine the SAVE act with gerrymandering reform, when you combine that with

[Dan Bongino]

border control, when you combine that with

[Justin]

reviewing how we do the census and you dump the filibuster, you have a multipoint plan to change the country forever. Let me walk you through this.

[Dan Bongino]

Here's how the steps work.

[Justin]

First, we have to nuke this filibuster. I've said it yesterday, I don't want to nuke the filibuster. However, we don't have a choice. The Democrats are going to do it when they hopefully don't get in charge, but if they do and take over the Senate, they are going to rewrite the rules to nuke the filibuster, Ladies and gentlemen. Gentlemen. How do I know that? Dan, you're being dramatic. I'm not being dramatic. The Democrats have already told us in the Senate they're going to nuke the filibuster. And the two Democrats that voted against it, Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sinema, claim

[Dan Bongino]

to be an independent Senate.

[Justin]

They're gone. They're gone. You get a couple of. Let me give you an example.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm going to cover this later in the show. You've got a candidate in Michigan, this Al Said guy.

[Justin]

This guy is a left wing lunatic. This guy gets in the Senate, you think he's not going to vote to nuke the filibuster? Are you crazy, man? Are you out of your mind? Of course they're going to do it. Their voters are going to pressure them to do it. We've got to get rid of the filibuster and move to a majority in the Senate so we can do stuff and create an ownership culture in the United States Senate where when you're in charge, your party owns it. You can't just duck and go, oh, you know, we couldn't overcome the filibuster. Democrats blocked us. No, no, there's no filibuster. You got the majority.

[Dan Bongino]

You get it done. Step one, get rid of it.

[Justin]

Step two, pass the SAVE act. Proof of citizenship and ID to vote, period. Identification. It's not hard. It is not difficult. This is not controversial. The overwhelming majority of voters support voter ID. This is not Jim Crow 7.2. Whatever bullshit you're throwing out there to gin up race hostilities. That is not what's. This is a mass consensus position every sane, rational, logical voter supports. Dump the filibuster. Push the SAVE act through, make citizens produce ID to vote. No more illegals voting. No more scams, no more people showing up. I'm Joey Bag of Donuts. Are You Joey Bag of Donuts?

[Dan Bongino]

Actually, I'm Jane Bag of Donuts. I'm pretending to be Joey Bag of Donuts. To vote.

[Justin]

Nope. You got to produce ID. Third, make sure by any political means necessary that the 2030 census does not count illegals in the country. The abuse of the census to push illegals into population counts has expanded blue states ability to elect more members of the House of Representatives because there's a bigger population, which is which gives them a greater say in the presidential vote too, through the Electoral College. Illegal should not be counted. They have no legal right to be here. You do that, you are going to dramatically increase the chances of the Republican Party winning the presidency and winning the House of Representatives. Why? One, it's just not the right thing

[Dan Bongino]

to do to count illegals.

[Justin]

But second, because the Democrats are using this census to keep blue state political power despite people citizens evacuating blue states en masse. Fourth, the Supreme Court ruling, the Louisiana case just came down on the vra. Huge. There's not going to be any more racial gerrymanders. It's illegal. You cannot discriminate based on race, period. That's it. These racial gerrymanders are done. If Tennessee and some of these other states now come out and Alabama and others and now engage in a fair congressional map, not discriminating based on race, which is now illegal, ladies and gentlemen, we can pick up four or five more seats. You have that tweet from the DeSantis thing and Ron DeSantis who's been an excellent governor down here in Florida, just signed into law a redistricting of Florida. We which could net us four more seats down here too.

[Dan Bongino]

You see this? At a vote hub breaking this was yesterday. Florida Governor DeSantis signed a new congressional map into law. The map could net Republicans plus four

[Justin]

in the midterm elections, could dump the gerrymandering. Get back to fair congressional maps, make them compact, make them more fair. Stop discriminating based on race. And then step five, which we're already at thanks to the incredible leadership of President Trump on this, secure the border to prevent another influx of illegals. Ladies and gentlemen, you implement that 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 point multipoint plan, we will not lose an election for 20, 30 years. There is no way to manipulate outcomes. The cheating is not going to be kept to zero, but it's going to be kept to a minimum. The scams through the racial gerrymandering is going to stop the use of illegals to buttress your numbers in blue states that don't deserve the political power they have, the. They don't deserve it. People are leaving their states. People don't want to live under Newsom in California or Hochul in New York. That's why they're freaking leaving. We will change America forever. And folks, none of these five items are pie in the sky. Pollyanna Ish bullshit. This is doable stuff. We have the capacity to nuke the filibuster right now. We have the majority in the Senate. This may be our last shot. We have the capacity right now. Once we do that, nuke the filibuster to pass the SAVE act, voter id, proof of citizenship, no more illegals voting. We certainly have the capacity for census reform. We already implemented the capacity to fix racial gerrymandering and get it back to Fair maps. We're doing it right now. Florida and others. And President Trump has already moved on the border, so half of these Items are already 90% done. We can do this. We do not have to accept second best. I say this because I am so confident. You may say, how are you so confident the Democrats will lose once elections are free and fair and free of racial discrimination? How are you so confident, Dan? Because the Democrats ideas, ladies and gentlemen, suck. They suck. Whether it's confiscatory taxes, excessive government red tape, government control of health care. You should control sticking kids in shitty public schools. None of this stuff is popular. Defund them. Police, open borders. If this stuff was popular, Kamala Harris would be President Harris. And she's not. She's Citizen Harris. She's like Citizen Kane without the cane. And with the Harris, she's not the president. We win because our ideas win. Because they're just. I hate the term common sense. It seems like such a default. They're just common sense. Defund the police. What do you want to get mugged?

[Dan Bongino]

I don't want to get mugged.

[Justin]

Well, who's going to stop it from getting mugged? The police. So give me more police. Taxes. No one wants to pay more taxes. Democrats in Congress have been accused of evading taxes. No. If they're so popular paying taxes, why don't people pay more? Because taxes suck. If public schools were doing such a great job, why is there a mass push for homeschooling? School choice. Why do people want a choice if the choice they have now. Air quotes. Choice. It's like a Hobson's Choice. Go to public schools. It's so popular. If government run health care is so terrific, why is Medicaid, Medicare, both going bankrupt on a mass scale, why?

[Dan Bongino]

And that's what leads me to this. If we lose the Senate, we are going to have another series of judges who are not going to get onto the bench.

[Justin]

Speaking in counterfactuals, why? Because President Trump has two more years after the November election.

[Dan Bongino]

Obviously.

[Justin]

It's a four year term. The midterms are two years in, folks. The Democrats will not vote in a single judicial nominee. From the point they swear in in

[Dan Bongino]

the US Senate, they will not confirm one more.

[Justin]

That's it. They're going to hold all of these spots open, hoping they win the presidency. Let's hope they don't. 2028, and then you want to see judges.

[Dan Bongino]

Oh, my gosh.

[Justin]

You are going to have judges in the Barack Obama, Hakeem Jeffries, Bernie Sanders mode on the bench. You saw that yesterday with this ridiculous. This story. This is one of those stories I typically don't cover. But in the larger context of the problem we're having with judicial activism and three branches of government that are not coe. Equal anymore, the judicial branch has entirely taken over. We have to fix this problem. And the way to fix it is the multipoint plan I just told you about where we get constitutionalists on the bench. I just need people to rule on the constitutional grounds. Don't be an activist. Check out this Fox News tweet. This is outrageous. The judge in the White House Correspondents

[Dan Bongino]

association dinner talking to Cole Allen, the suspect in the case, and he was, quote, these are quotes for liberals, meaning the judge said, as a magistrate, by

[Justin]

the way, Zia Faroquay, that he was fascinated and disturbed by the suspect's treatment in jail. He notes that it's extremely disturbing that he was put in restraints with no criminal history.

[Dan Bongino]

It's troubling.

[Justin]

Then he references the January 6th offenders. Would anybody treat it more unfairly than them? He notes, quote, at a minimum, I should be apologizing to him. We're obligated to make sure he's taken care of. I'm sorry that things have not been the way they're supposed to be. You want to put this guy in like a Four Seasons? What do you want to do, give him back rubs? You want red light and IV therapy for him? This is a jail. Does the judge not know how this works?

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not going to harp on this a lot. You've heard enough of it. And again, I don't like to repeat everything on cable news. I love cable news. I just. You see it all day. You come to this show for.

[Justin]

I want to make the point about

[Dan Bongino]

the judge in A larger context that judicial activism is going to bury this country.

[Justin]

It is the single most powerful branch of government. That's not even a controversial statement anymore. They've usurped power from the executive, from the legislative branch. And the country can't continue like this, folks. We can't have, you know, hundreds of magistrates and federal judges and circuit court judges and Supreme Court justices that all think they're the commander in chief. We can't have them thinking they're the Senate majority or minority leader.

[Dan Bongino]

I got a bit of good news coming up next. The Republican bench here is deep. I addressed this yesterday. I addressed this last week, folks. I have never been more optimistic.

[Justin]

You got all these people out there. They are such, you know, Debbie Downers

[Dan Bongino]

or Danny Downers or whatever.

[Justin]

I've never seen a Republican bench so populated with talent.

[Dan Bongino]

I'll show you what I mean. Let me take a quick break here. I'll show you what I mean. Coming up in a second. You may have seen this video, but again, I want to address it from

[Justin]

a different angle because the Democrats have

[Dan Bongino]

always, always, at least in my. I shouldn't say always, but always in my lifetime. I've only got 51 years on the planet. Probably 45 conscious, right? Not that I was meaning like I was a kid and read into that too much.

[Unknown Female Guest]

I know.

[Dan Bongino]

Just like. What do you mean you're like doing drugs for six years? No, I mean like childhood amnesia.

[Justin]

Breaking news.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm just telling you the Democrats have always had a monopoly on the cool factor. They have, they have.

[Justin]

And the media pumps them up.

[Dan Bongino]

Obama, Clinton.

[Justin]

Look at the.

[Dan Bongino]

Obama plays basketball.

[Justin]

So what? Who cares?

[Dan Bongino]

Clinton plays a saxophone. Great. No more. Kamala Harris was the anti cool factor. So was Bernie Sanders. And now we got a monopoly. Don't play this stuff down. The bench is deep. Quick break.

[Justin]

A quick question.

[Dan Bongino]

How much control do you actually have over your money right now? Listen, technology's changed everything. You got this censorship culture out there. It is really, really worrisome. Technology's changed everything and it's changing how money works. So get ahead of these trends now. Crypto starting as a niche. Started as a niche, but it's going mainstream. Faster payments, more control, fewer middlemen. That isn't hype. It's where things are going. And getting started today is easier than you think. With Rumble Wallet, you can buy bitcoin, hold dollar backed stablecoins, can even own digital gold, digital gold backed by real gold all in one place. I love my Rumble Wallet. The setup is really simple. You know, I'm not a huge tech guy. It is really easy. It connects with Moonpay so you can use your debit card, credit card or bank account. You can be up and running in just minutes like that.

[Justin]

You start small.

[Dan Bongino]

$10, $50, $100. It's not about the amount. It's about getting in early and understanding what's coming next. Control your money and once you're set up, you can even tip your favorite Rumble creators directly. So do this today. Scan the QR code or click the link in the description and download Rumble Wallet. Go to your app store, download Rumble Wallet. From there you can set up your wallet, tap buy and you're in the game. It's really that simple. Take control of your money. Get started with Rumble Wallet today, please. I'm really worried about the censorship future. Rumble Wallet is a technology provider only and not a custodial service. See [e-mail] thank you. Rumble Wallet. Can't recommend that enough. All right, folks, this is what I'm talking about. You implement this five point plan, the filibuster reform, the SAVE act, the census reform, gerrymandering reform, and border control. We're already halfway home and we've got

[Justin]

power for a long time to bring

[Dan Bongino]

back the constitutional republic and freedoms and

[Justin]

liberties we were destined for. You had manifest destiny at Freedom Liberty.

[Dan Bongino]

You're part of manifest destiny to going forward. Check this out. Here's Secretary of State, National Security Advisor. Probably has 10 other positions. You've probably seen a video of Rubio

[Justin]

DJ it at a party.

[Dan Bongino]

So why would I play that on my show?

[Justin]

Look at this Rubio.

[Dan Bongino]

So he's waiting for the beat to drop, right?

[Justin]

You know what I love about it too? He looks totally natural.

[Dan Bongino]

He's not like trying to pretend to dance like that awful video we had

[Justin]

of the guy running for governor in

[Dan Bongino]

California up on the stage. That was the cringiest video ever.

[Justin]

Look at Rubio. He's waiting for the beat to drop.

[Dan Bongino]

Folks, on a very serious note here, candidates have to be relatable. The king of relatability, which must be the greatest political irony of all time, is a billionaire real estate developer who

[Justin]

relates to the average guy better than

[Dan Bongino]

most average guys relate to the average guy.

[Justin]

And his name is Donald Trump.

[Dan Bongino]

He's in the White House for now, his second term and has dominated Republican politics for 10 years.

[Justin]

The guy just basically owned the kind of cool relatable factor.

[Dan Bongino]

But relatability matters in politics, folks. Listen, I'm not going to tell you every single person out there votes on the issues they vote on people they can relate to, who they feel, emphasize, empathize with them. They do. And I can't think of a better politician outside of Donald Trump out there who does it better than Rubio. I'm just telling you, we have a bench of really relatable people right now. You got a war fighter now, Secretary of Defense and Pete Hegseth. You've got JD out there who just can go back and forth for hours. You've got Secretary Rubio who's just, I mean, the guy has just crushed it. You've got a really, really deep bench of talent that's not even getting into the House and the Senate. Brandon Gill, Congressman Brandon Gill, who we played his clips on the show so many times. Just these guys are really tearing it up.

[Justin]

So the point of this whole thing

[Dan Bongino]

with the five point plan and the

[Justin]

reforms is we're already halfway there. This stuff is happening.

[Dan Bongino]

Don't listen to nothing is happening as crap.

[Justin]

We just need to push the football

[Dan Bongino]

into the end zone. We're at like the five yard line right now.

[Justin]

A few run plays and maybe a short pass and we are in. The bench is deep and it's not lucky. There are really big, bold things happening

[Dan Bongino]

right now and the country's in an amazing place. All right, Produce receipts.

[Justin]

We always produce receipts on this show. This administration is not lucky. They are just good. They are just good.

[Dan Bongino]

Everybody loves Lucky Trump.

[Justin]

This is what the left thinks he is.

[Dan Bongino]

It's not luck. This administration from Rubio on down is just good. Another rock star on our team right now in the Cabinet is Treasury Secretary Scott Bessen. He's not as out there as others and obviously I think he said it in the Wall Street Journal editorial article. He did. He did an interview in long form.

[Justin]

I think he's indicated he's not really interested in politics. Besson's done an amazing job. Here he is talking about corporate earnings, ladies and gentlemen. I know this is a topic like the left wings. Businesses, corporate earnings. Who really gives you a big blah, blah, blah, blah. If businesses don't make money, you're not getting paid. Who the hell do you think most of us work for, whether our own or someone else's? Corporations, businesses, that's who we work for. You don't want them making money and producing stuff. What kind of idiot are you? Here's Scott Besson on really spectacular corporate

[Dan Bongino]

earnings figures as we have earnings season

[Justin]

come out and quarterly filings.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Cognizant that the, that this short term blip up in prices is affecting the American people. But I am also confident on the other side of this, prices are going to come down very quickly. You know the conflict land. If we look at the stock market, what, what does the stock market see right now? The stock market is looking through this. Corporate earnings are good, employment is good. And this gasoline, this temporary aberration will be over in a matter of weeks or a month.

[Dan Bongino]

You're gonna do it to the audience. You're really gonna do this soon. Justin insists that you guys see this again. You wanna hear that? You saw Rubio before, right? DJ and dropping a beat. Dropping a little finger wagon. Here's the Democrats. This is the guy who's prone to leading candidates for governor in California. Tom Stard. You

[Justin]

folks just don't do it.

[Dan Bongino]

Don't do it.

[Justin]

Don't do it.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm sorry.

[Justin]

Is that his wife?

[Dan Bongino]

You guys are always more fascinated by the wife in the background.

[Justin]

Don't do it. Friends. Don't let friends. If you're running for office, do these

[Dan Bongino]

political dances on stage. Just don't do it.

[Justin]

We'll just continue to avoid that. We'll DJ at a party and continue to produce results. They're not luck, I promise you.

[Dan Bongino]

All right, enough torture. You don't have to put it on loop. They've had enough. The chat is in. Mutiny. Who said that? April 25th in the chat. Pathetic. Cringe. Who said that? Rad back on.

[Justin]

Yes, it is cringe. It's goofy. However, this administration keeps banging out the results. That's an important segment by Besson, folks. I know it's not segment sexy or whatever. Oh, corporations making money. I'm going to talk about corporations. Well, you better want to talk about corporations. Who do you think is producing all this stuff? From computers to biomedical science material to our food corporations.

[Dan Bongino]

Look at these numbers by Zero Hedge in this tweet on output. Factory.

[Justin]

You don't have factories. You don't have stuff. You don't have stuff. You don't have wealth. Dan, I want to talk about emotional wellbeing. Great. That's really super important. I love that topic. Wall that off. If you are not materially wealthy unless you have materials. Materials come from factories. Zero Hedge core us factory orders surged in March to best year over year growth since November of 2022. That sounds to me like good news. I thought the doomers told us everything's falling apart. Look at this. An actual chart too. Amazing. Lot of green on that chart. Here's some more good news coming out of the administration. I have a Vested interest in this full disclosure.

[Dan Bongino]

You know my prior position.

[Justin]

However, this is all good news. The nation's homicide rates and crime rates are still collapsing. They are going down. That's a good thing. Like that's less people who got dead. Here's FBI director Cash Patel. Huge. In April, Baltimore hit a record low for homicides, the lowest number ever since 1970 when tracking began.

[Dan Bongino]

Lives are being saved every day across the country. He did a long form interview with Sean Hannity. He's going to air today on Hangout with Sean Hannity, the same show I was on last week. I encourage you to watch it where

[Justin]

he talks about all this. This is not an accident. Again, I've explained to you the ufat bars.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not gonna cuz it's about me.

[Justin]

I feel too self serving. But it's important you put it out there. Baltimore's got a very special place in my heart. I spent, you know, almost 13 years of my life in Maryland, living in Anne Arundel county right outside of Baltimore. Many Orioles games, we went to Ravens games. That's kind of important. You don't have forget about factories. You know, people working in the factories because they're dead. You're not going to produce stuff because there's no people because they're dead. By the way, thank you to the great Rudy Giuliani.

[Dan Bongino]

He's having a health crisis right now.

[Justin]

Please continue your prayers.

[Dan Bongino]

There is an unbelievable power to prayer. I know a lot of you understand. I addressed this. We love you, Mayor Giuliani.

[Justin]

But I'm going to tell you something. Those numbers Director Patel's talking about, lowest homicide rates, lowest crime rates, they would not be if it weren't for Rudy Giuliani at the tip of the spear of the crime fighting movement with his push on broken windows policing. So I found this clip of Mayor

[Dan Bongino]

Mamdani, this classless tool. I don't try to be nice. I don't know why he's asked about Mayor Giuliani yesterday. Hey, you know Mayor Giuliani is having a health crisis. You know, he did a lot for the city after 9 11, man just

[Justin]

grow a pair of balls and say,

[Dan Bongino]

hey, he did do a lot. It was a tough time for the city.

[Justin]

Nope, Mamdani can't do it. Watch this little bit of verbal judo

[Dan Bongino]

to avoid saying anything nice about a

[Justin]

guy who probably saved the city from implosion when he was the mayor for two terms.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out. You'd like to say about his contributions to the city. The fact that he got the city through 9 11. I think

[Unknown Female Guest 2]

former Mayor Giuliani is someone that we as New Yorkers know well and he's been a fixture in our city's politics and public life for so many years. And I know that many New Yorkers are concerned by the reports that he's in critical condition. And so we do keep him and his family in our prayers at this time.

[Justin]

That's it? That's the best you can do? I'm sorry, man, but the guy that the mayor deserves better than this wasn't for him, the city would have collapsed a long time ago. Folks, this segment is about good things happening. Number one, we are halfway through this five point plan.

[Dan Bongino]

We can push it over the edge, okay?

[Justin]

Number two, our bench is deep. We have tremendously talented, relatable, cool factor candidates who can run. Number three, the economy's in a really good spot. Is it a great spot? I don't like to use the word great because there's always room for improvement. It's in a very good spot. The public safety situation, we're in an unbelievable spot. The border is nearly, nearly sealed. Also, you now have this thanks to independent journalists, you know, the Nick Shirleys and others out there who've been doing this stuff for years, who've been exposing government malfeasance and misfeasance. You're now starting to see generational problems start to get fixed. The focus on fraud with the vice president and the task force, the, the massive number of arrests they've engaged in there and in California and elsewhere. Another thing I've mentioned to you, that's a huge problem that finally people are starting to focus on is the massive amount of grifting and waste in the education system at the state, local, territorial, tribal and federal level. The education system, I told you when

[Dan Bongino]

I ran for office in Maryland, a guy came in, he was a Democrat, Prince George's county, but he wasn't happy with the Democrats in Maryland. He says to me, I was running for Senate. He goes, dan, I'm going to tell you something. You take on the public education system, they're going to come for you with bloody knives, man. I said, why? I mean, these kids should want to get an education, so should their parents.

[Justin]

He said, it's not about education.

[Dan Bongino]

I said, the education money is not about education? He said, no. He said the public education system is a jobs program. It's not an education system. That's why this story warmed my heart yesterday. Here's a quick Fox News hit about again, another focus by this Justice Department on the Illinois education system and some of the stuff they're doing because some of this jobs program that the public education system's become is not about education jobs but about DEI jobs, division jobs, non diversity, non equity and non inclusion. Check this out.

[Justin]

The Trump administration is investigating dozens of Illinois school districts and prosecutors say they helped children change genders without telling their parents. The review is also looking at whether the districts violated parents right to opt their child out of lessons on gender and sexuality. Senior correspondent Mike Tobin reports from Chicago. Mike, this just keeps happening.

[Unknown Female Guest]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Guest 3]

And Harris, if Illinois schools are transitioning students without the consent or knowledge of their parents, the Department of Justice is going to find out about it. As you mentioned, the DOJ has launched an investigation into some 36 schools in Illinois. The investigation is going to probe whether the schools are pushing woke agenda on the students, particularly if they're pushing sexual orientation and gender ideology. Now the investigation will examine if they parents have been notified about how sexual orientation and gender ideology is being presented to the students, whether parents are being kept in the dark about a child taking on another gender and whether students are forced into locker rooms and bathrooms with a person born the opposite gender. Assistant Attorney General Harmeet Dillon tells Fox News parents have a right to know the curriculum being presented to their kids.

[Justin]

Folks, this story should warm your heart.

[Dan Bongino]

The education system at again the federal

[Justin]

and SLTT level is not an education system. It is a jobs program for leftists engaged in division DEI bullshit non meritocratic institutions. Things are happening, big things and I'm not going to let these little kind of non niche but they portrayed as niche stories slip through the cracks. They are hugely important in the big picture. Don't lose faith and I definitely don't lose faith in these midterm elections. I'm not going to allow it. I'm not going to let the doomerism stop people from voting under the guise of well nothing makes a difference cuz nothing's happening. It is happening and it's going to continue to happen. And a lot of this stuff is really transformative and amazing.

[Dan Bongino]

Don't give in to the doomerism folks. We gotta save the Senate. Going back to the Maryland sucks. We need you for governor there. I'll let you in a little secret I can. Well we're not a secret. I think we had a. Did we file at the time? It's so long ago. When I ran for Congress in Maryland I considered running for Governor Gantz. I'd run statewide and we had performed very well. It was a three way race at the time. But yeah, I like being, being a voice here on the outside. I really do. I, if I can inspire just a sliver of this audience to go and vote, I know we can make a difference. I know it. Go pull 10 people with you and we'll make an even bigger difference.

[Justin]

Folks, we got to save the Senate.

[Dan Bongino]

We have got to save the Senate, period.

[Justin]

If we don't, we're going to have this continued problem we had to discuss in the beginning of the show with these left wing judges usurping the power of the other two branches and engaging in ridiculous behaviors like apologizing from the Ben from a suspect in a case who is on video unloading a shot at a Secret Service agent.

[Dan Bongino]

They're in real trouble in the Senate.

[Justin]

I'm just going to go through a

[Dan Bongino]

couple of quick test cases and how bad their candidate selection process has been so far.

[Justin]

The Democrats are floating in a cesspool of human waste right now on their Senate Democrats. The pool of candidates is the worst I've ever seen. Here's a rogues gallery of zeros they have who are going to probably walk into the nominations on the Democrats side for this cycle. Fox News, Graham Platner, who is the

[Dan Bongino]

going to be the candidate in Maine,

[Justin]

blames his Nazi tattoo on military culture and quote, unrest. Well, understandably, quote, draws backlash from GOP veterans. No, no, no, that's not military culture, jerk wad. My grandfather fought pretty damn hard in World War II in a military culture fighting Nazis. You may have missed that.

[Dan Bongino]

Like Ilhan Omar.

[Justin]

She thought it was World War 11. She may have missed it. I didn't miss it. There have only been two of them. That's going to be their candidate. Maine. You ready to give up? Forfeit the seat to a guy with a Nazi tattoo? What are you insane? Here's another winner. And by winner, I mean loser. This is in Michigan, moving around the map. These are all Democrats, by the way. Democrats, Senate hopeful talking about Mallory McMorrow. She's running in Michigan, folks. Keep this in mind. Ripped for trashing middle middle.

[Dan Bongino]

Guys, isn't that kind of where Michigan middle.

[Justin]

Well, that's weird. Democrat Senate hopeful RIP for trashing middle America and unearthed social media posts. Quote, ticks me off. Mallory McMorrow claims she like Mrs. California. You can go back to California. You can run there. But you didn't. You were in Michigan, the middle America.

[Dan Bongino]

That ticks you off.

[Justin]

How do you think that plays with middle Americans? Here's another one in Michigan.

[Dan Bongino]

They've got a rogues gallery of Zeros there.

[Justin]

Michigan Senate candidate El Sayed declines to disavow Hassan Piker's past comments. He was out there campaigning with him, Hasan Piker, you know, the lib podcast guy. You talk about social murder and all this stuff. These are their candidates. These are their candidates. Here, I'll throw one more at you. Here's Georgia.

[Dan Bongino]

You're John Ossoff, you're like ah, the

[Justin]

Democrats in Georgia like ah, this guy's like a moderate. He no moderate. This guy's to the left. AOC John Ossoff, who's the sitting senator now running for reelection in Georgia. Silent on the Southern Poverty Law center indictment after taking more than 700k from an affiliate of the indicted group. I said, what?

[Dan Bongino]

That's so weird. That's so weird. They got themselves a candidate problem, folks.

[Justin]

We've had cycles where the Republican candidates weren't great.

[Dan Bongino]

Some of them were misquoted, some of them were quoted. We've had cycles that weren't great.

[Justin]

This cycle for them on the Senate side sucks. Don't give up and don't give in

[Dan Bongino]

to the black pill crowd.

[Justin]

We're going to lose. We're going to get smoked. Whatever man. We will. If you're, if you get people not to vote. Folks, let's talk also your financial health moving forward because there were other things happening as well. One of the areas.

[Dan Bongino]

Listen, I understand, I understand there are, again I've said this a lot.

[Justin]

There are a lot of differing opinions on what we should be doing right now about Iran. Should we be there, should we not be there? How extensive should these, the military action be? What's happening with the strait. I understand, I'm very comfortable with where we are. We've deposed the leadership. We're now in control of the state.

[Dan Bongino]

We're guaranteeing safe passage on the Oman side.

[Justin]

I think we're in really good shape. We've been there a couple months.

[Dan Bongino]

I'd like to see it wrap up sometime soon.

[Justin]

I think the President feels the same way.

[Dan Bongino]

I.

[Justin]

However, there is zero doubt in my

[Dan Bongino]

mind that we have established a good

[Justin]

solid long term future for petrochemical markets

[Dan Bongino]

and gas prices moving forward.

[Justin]

Listen, there's no doubt in my mind that there's been a temporary dislocation in the petrochemical markets. However, I want you to listen to

[Dan Bongino]

this clip by Peter St. Ange. I love this guy's clips. He does great work on economics.

[Justin]

He's talking about something really important, opec.

[Dan Bongino]

OPEC has been a cartel of oil

[Justin]

exporting nations that have done engaged in basically price fixing. For years they dominated the world oil and gas market forever.

[Dan Bongino]

OPEC is in real trouble right now for a lot of reasons.

[Justin]

And this war right now going on

[Dan Bongino]

in Iran is not helping them at all.

[Justin]

Here's a quick one from Peter St.

[Dan Bongino]

Ange on exactly this. Check this out. So who wins, who loses?

[Unknown Female Guest 4]

For the moment, not much changes. The Strait of Hormuz is driving oil prices. But once the war is over, according to analyst Procurability, global oil prices could drop 5 to $10 on UAE alone, which is about $0.50 a gallon at the pump is great for countries that import a lot of oil like Europe, Japan and China. It's mixed for countries that are basically self sufficient like the US and of course it is terrible for countries that export a lot of oil, especially Saudi Arabia and Russia. The wider question is will other OPEC members follow Dubai out the door? Does the entire cartel break up? Because if that happens, it could drop oil prices closer to $20. Compared to pre war, you'd be looking at 40 to 45 bucks. You'd also be looking at a paradise of $2 gasoline. That would mean roughly half a trillion dollars transferred from producers to consumers, which alone would also grow the entire world economy. Since oil and gas go into almost everything, factories, trucking, plastics, chemicals, cement, steel, fertilizer.

[Justin]

Let me walk you through this quick. For all of the people out there thinking this is a disaster, oh my gosh, we've had a dislocation in oil and gas prices. You're not thinking mid term, long term, man, I'm really sorry. Who is going to power the future economy?

[Dan Bongino]

What business?

[Justin]

I don't think there's any serious doubt

[Dan Bongino]

out there that it's going to be artificial intelligence and productivity enhancements.

[Justin]

How does artificial intelligence work?

[Dan Bongino]

It requires a data center.

[Justin]

Data centers require a lot of energy. Where is that energy going to come from? Oil, gas, nuclear, but it's definitely going to be petrochemicals as well. There's no doubt that's part of the portfolio. OPEC thought they would mess around with Donald Trump in Trump 45. What did Donald Trump do? Donald Trump says, I want to build our ability to export oil and gas here. Promotes the hydrofracking business. We start becoming one of the world's leading exporters of oil and gas. What happens? OPEC starts screwing around. They try to drop the price. They try to drop the price to run a lot of oil and gas companies in the United States out of business because they can't be profitable at that low oil price.

[Dan Bongino]

You Think, well, that sucks. They won.

[Justin]

No, they didn't. Why, Dan, what happened? A lot of these companies that were

[Dan Bongino]

not really efficient, oil and gas producers in the United States went out of business. But a lot of other companies that figured out how to be efficient went in and scooped up a lot of those wells and made them really efficient, where they're able to run at say, a $50 per barrel price.

[Justin]

You get what I'm saying? They thought they were screwing us over,

[Dan Bongino]

but they actually helped us by creative destruction. The Iranians also by shutting down the Strait because of Donald Trump's actions over there, pissed off the uae, the United

[Justin]

Arab Emirates that's now pulled out of OPEC and said we're not going to

[Dan Bongino]

do that shit anymore. This hit on Fox yesterday about the UAE that is really annoyed because now

[Justin]

the Iranians are attacking their oil facilities. Short term, definitely an issue midterm. Long term, they start pumping more oil and say, screw opec, the world is in incredible shape. Long term, they're also starting to call

[Dan Bongino]

out the Iranians for what they are, their leadership. Check this out.

[Unknown Female Guest 2]

The United Arab Emirates is now accusing Iran of hitting with two drones striking an empty oil tanker as it made its way through the Strait of Hormuz. An attack again by two Iranian drones at the same time. South Korea says it is now working to verify that one of its vessels was also attacked by Iran. Now, this comes as Iran is warning the United States not to interfere in the Strait of Hormuz or else. Take a look at this statement from Iran's head of the military of their united Forces. It says, quote, we warn that any foreign armed forces, especially the aggressive U.S. army, will be attacked if they intend to approach and enter the Strait of Hormuz.

[Justin]

So now you've got the UAE pulling out of opec, OPEC collapsing. You've got the potential now for the United States to be the king, the global king in oil and gas production. And you've also got Donald Trump's efforts in both the Strait of Malacca and in Venezuela. We control now the international shipping lanes and oil traffic from one of the world's largest producers, Venezuela, too. Check out this CNBC hit by one of the energy executives working in the White House as an advisor talking about how we now control hemispheric oil production as well. Long term, ladies and gentlemen, if you're investing in America's future, there's no other party to vote for other than the Republican Party and this MAGA movement and

[Dan Bongino]

what President Trump has done. Check this out.

[Unknown Female Guest]

Great trip. Huge Celebration of the partnership that exists today thanks to President Trump between Venezuela and the United States. Look, President Trump is a man of action. He wants to see progress. He wants to see action take place. And you saw action and progress. Progress in three important sectors. Transportation, the first daily flights backed from the US To Venezuela. Energy, oil and gas. You saw three independent oil and gas companies, new entrants, signing deals with Venezuela. And on mining, you saw a huge landmark mining deal, the first of its kind for, for gold, for coal into Venezuela. All of these are showing the tremendous press progress in just a short period of time between the US and Venezuela, folks.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm telling you, man, long term, we are just in incredible shape.

[Justin]

Someone said in the chat, Dan, you

[Dan Bongino]

know, stop promoting AI.

[Justin]

I'm not promoting anything. I'm telling you only this. You have two choices. Stop acting like the world is a

[Dan Bongino]

binary AI or no AI.

[Justin]

It's at the Pandora's box has been open. There's no going back. It's like saying, you know, back in, during the Manhattan Project, hey, ignore nuclear fission. That's not the way the world works. You can either get out ahead of it and manage both the threats and opportunities. Nuclear fission wasn't all bad. Well, it created bombs. Yeah. It also created energy. That's not the way the world works. The world is on the margin. Everything is a little bit of this for a trade off and a little bit of that for a trade off. Artificial intelligence is here. There's no, just like, oh, we're just going to ignore it and let China figure out a way to use AI to infiltrate our industrial control systems and kill us all by manipulating the water supply? That's not the way this works. The world is a complicated place. That's why I appreciate having a transactional pragmatist like Donald Trump in the White House who doesn't bullshit people about the tradeoffs. He's a transactional guy. He didn't get all emotional about stuff, speaks emotionally, but his decisions are very practical. Folks, the politics of the moment could

[Dan Bongino]

not be better for this whole MAGA movement.

[Justin]

There is a large and flourishing component

[Dan Bongino]

I mentioned in the beginning of the show of the MAGA movement, called the Maha Movement. Make America healthy again. I am really proud to align with it. I mean, it's not my movement, it's just a movement. It does its own thing. It's organic. I'm obsessed with life hacks. We've had guests on the show in that direction. We're going to have more. I have Dr. Marty Makari and the FDA coming up in just a little bit. We're going to talk about exactly some of these items. Psychedelics, the food pyramid, hormone replacement therapy, something a lot of people have asked about. There were scare tactics about it for years. This is a powerful movement, folks. I don't want to be dramatic with my language, but as someone who went through not a cancer scare, but actual cancer in the treatment. We have been poisoning our bodies for decades. God gave us a food supply. He gave us fruits and vegetables and grains and legumes and meat and all of these beautiful, wonderful things with these active phytochemicals and proteins and minerals, micronutrients, vitamins.

[Justin]

And what are we doing?

[Dan Bongino]

We're like, not all, but many of

[Justin]

us are like, shopping down the middle

[Dan Bongino]

of the supermarket, eating balls of like,

[Justin]

you know, dye infested multigrain crap, garbage, sugar infested cereals in the morning. That's not natural, man. We got to get back to doing the basics. Shop around the supermarket. It is almost impossible to overeat on, like steak, chicken, apples and salad. It's. It's nearly impossible. Your stomach's not big enough. I promise you, though, I can eat. I'm. I'm an eater, man.

[Dan Bongino]

I can eat like. You've never. Have you guys not seen me eat? Josh is kind of new to his head, but Justin seen me eat. I eat like an animal.

[Justin]

I like a freaking savage animal, man. Beast. Nobody eats. But the thing is, I just eat natural food, so it's impossible to calorically overeat. We got this guy who drops off some food sometime at the house and he's like, is this all for you? And I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's for me. He's like, that's not you. Paul and the kids. I go, no, no, they go to a separate place.

[Dan Bongino]

That's. He's right. Justin said, do not get between Dan and shrimp cocktail.

[Justin]

I love me some shrimp. Was that shrimp and prime rib? Was that the Teen Titans?

[Dan Bongino]

I don't even like prime rib.

[Justin]

But the shrimp, oh, man, I eat

[Dan Bongino]

the hell out of that damn thing. J. We had a little work party.

[Justin]

I almost bit Justin's finger.

[Dan Bongino]

What do you mean it's not for you?

[Justin]

I'm like, that was for the table. I told you guys, get your own thing. That's right. And he appetize.

[Dan Bongino]

I'll take this rim cock for the table. No, no, not for the table. That's just for me. You gotta eat healthy, man. I want to show you some of the. Do not underestimate the power politically of the Baja movement. But for your own health, folks, the old way of thinking was, you know, get old, let sarcopenia kick in. You're going to lose your muscle.

[Justin]

You're just going to lose, you're going to get dementia, folks.

[Dan Bongino]

Some of that tragically is going to happen.

[Justin]

However, a lot of this stuff is preventable. You, you do not have to lose 90% of your muscle in your 80s and 90s. No, you. Yeah, I saw this tweet from AP.

[Dan Bongino]

It's Associated Press, but it's about, you know, health, so whatever.

[Justin]

Taiwanese grandmothers aged 89 and 91 train at the gym. Yes. Good for you. Taiwanese grandmothers. They note that an increasing number of elderly people in Taiwan super age society are hitting the gym to stay healthy, both physically and mentally. I thought decades ago medical professionals said to just sit home and rest. Do not sit home and rest. You will die, you will fall, you will fracture your hip and you will die. Don't die. Don't get dead. We used a little bit of AI

[Dan Bongino]

just for the audio translation of this. Thank you guys. Because you know, on Apple and Spotify you wouldn't be able to see it.

[Justin]

But here is a translation of a video. There's an actual video of this. 89 and 91 year old grandmothers hitting a gym, working out like animals. And I need that as a compliment. One of them is actually using a hex bar deadlift.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out.

[Taiwanese Grandmother (Interviewee)]

At home, I cook and take care of my husband every day. So my whole body takes on a lot. But my younger sister who trains here has gotten such good results. She and my daughter encouraged me to come train here too. My husband is in the final stage of his life, but he still asked me to train here. He worries that I won't be able to take care of myself when he's gone. I also made up my mind. I want to stay healthy and strong. Hey granny, can you lift 30 kilos? Of course I can. People. People would doubt and ask, really? And I would say, don't worry, I really can.

[Dan Bongino]

In a medical situation, we would remind patients that gym training prevents sarcopenia and

[Unknown Female Guest 4]

help with osteoporosis while increasing the density of the bones.

[Dan Bongino]

In general, I have observed an increasing trend of elderly people accepting such concepts. Folks, man, I, I know like Dylan music and other stuff and all, you know, with a dying of the light or whatever the hell.

[Justin]

No, no, no. Dying of the light did none of that shit. You do not have to wither away and die. Justin's like, man, that 91 year old lady's deadlifting more than me. I think she's deadlifting more than me too. You do not have to live that way. You do not put resistance training stress on your bones. They get, look at this lady, look at this. They get porous and they break. Obviously. Check with your doctor first. You got some kind of heart problem. I don't mean you're trying to deadlift like 500 pounds and have a heart attack. Is it like. It's amazing. Is that too, Is that too. It could be. Damn. Damn, folks.

[Dan Bongino]

Another thing too, not just physically do you need to stay active. If you are a member of this Maha movement, spread the word. Go get yourself medically checked out and get moving and go do something.

[Justin]

I'm not telling you after a life

[Dan Bongino]

of busting your ass, you got to go take on another full time job. It's not my business at 51 to question people who've been through world wars and elsewhere, but I am telling you this. There's an interesting piece I read this morning. I don't know if it's in the Wall Street Journal about how Winston Churchill had depression. He called it this, the black dog that would follow him around. That runs in my family. I know what that feeling is like. I do. I call it the black cloud. You're sad for no reason. It's just hard to shake.

[Justin]

There's a, there's a good, reasonably good fix for that. You know, it is doing stuff how Churchill would go.

[Dan Bongino]

Lay bricks. Lay bricks. Yeah.

[Justin]

Gave him something to do. Gets his mind off like wallowing on

[Dan Bongino]

these fake sorrows you have when you're.

[Justin]

I'm not talking about real sorrow, like someone dies. You really said depression. It's like not anchored to anything real. You're just sad for no good reason. Get moving. Go out and do stuff.

[Dan Bongino]

I got a feel good story for you. I saw this yesterday on social media. This guy's just an American hero. Number one serves in our military. Guy's 90 years old. His name, Lawrence Santucci, sounds pretty Italian. I love them Italians. I get an Italian last name myself.

[Justin]

I'm half.

[Dan Bongino]

My father would say the good half, but I'm half. Here's this guy, Lawrence Santucci, 90 years old, still working a full day of public service over there at tsa. I think it's an ABC story. This is going to give you the feels. Check this out.

[Reporter]

John Wayne Airport in Orange County. 90 year old Lauren Santucci still works at TSA checkpoint and shows up before sunrise.

[Justin]

He's inspirational.

[Reporter]

The Army Veteran is the oldest TSA officer in the country. But working for the TSA was not part of his original plan. After an unexpected financial hardship, he joined in 2008 when he was in his 70s.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I had to come back to work because I wanted to save my house.

[Reporter]

What began as a way to rebuild became a second career.

[Unknown Male Guest]

I try to instill on people when they come to work. You're here to protect life and property.

[Reporter]

And this week, his usual early arrival came with a special surprise.

[Unknown Male Guest]

Happy birthday, dad.

[Reporter]

His daughter Marie says service is what keeps him going.

[Dr. Marty Makari]

She loves.

[Justin]

He loves our country and wants to serve others.

[Dan Bongino]

And that's why he won't retire.

[Reporter]

Santucci says that work ethic started long before the TSA.

[Unknown Male Guest]

At 13, I built my first shoeshine box.

[Reporter]

At 90 years young, Lauren Santucci still has a pep in his step, finding pride and purpose at the airport.

[Unknown Male Guest]

What am I going to do if I retire?

[Justin]

Sit down.

[Dan Bongino]

Karmatic Magic in the. In the chat says, learning to be happy when you don't feel comfortable is the key to happiness. You're darn right, man. But I mean, is that not.

[Justin]

Does that not give you the feels, folks?

[Dan Bongino]

Stay moving, man. My father retired for, like 10 minutes. The hardest working guy I ever met, my father is up at. My father ran a buildings department on Long Island. He was the boss. He was the boss for 15 years or whatever. He did not have to get in work before nine. But in order to set an example for employees who worked there, my father would get in the office, seriously, like five or six in the morning. I know because I lived in an apartment off his house. And I'd hear his car start up and it'd be like. I'd look at my clock and be like, 4:40. You'd always wake me up. What the hell is he doing?

[Justin]

He retired for, like 10 minutes.

[Dan Bongino]

He couldn't take it. Now all he does is charity work. He lives down in Cary, North Carolina.

[Justin]

You gotta stay active, man.

[Dan Bongino]

I got a great guest coming up for you, Dr. Marty McCarthy. We're going to talk about all of the things you've been interested in in the Make America Healthy Again movement and what's happening in the Trump administration, in HHS and the fda. Don't miss it. Quick break and we'll get right to our guests, so please stay tuned. You're going to enjoy it. Here's a question. How many brokers does it take to insure your business? We have had this problem Paul and I run in our business. It's a nightmare. You're calling like 10, 20 different brokers for insurance products. It is a time suck like you've never seen. If you're like most business owners, the answer is way too many. Multiple policies, multiple applications, the same information over and over again and no clear view of how it all fits together. And when questions come up, it's not easy to get the clarity you need. Super sure changes that. One broker for all of your business insurance backed by a team that works with you year round, not just at renewal. Super important. There's a cost to your time. Save it. Check out super sure. If you've ever stared at a policy wondering what it actually covers, super sure has a fine print fax tool that translates the legal jargon into plain English. You got to try it so you know what's covered and what's not. You've seen all that stuff, like thousands of pages of boilerplate. What does this even mean right now? You can go to super sure.com bongino check it out and get a full report on your current policies with no obligation. Check it out. You're going to love it. Find out if you're overinsured, underinsured or somewhere in between. So go today. Go to super sure.com bongino one super agency, one spot, one powerful platform for all your policies in one place. Makes it really easy. Go today, check it out super sure.com bongino if you're a business owner like me, you won't regret it. That's Super Sure.com Bongino paid for by Super Sure Insurance Agency LLC, a licensed insurance agency. Consult with a licensed insurance producer to discuss coverage options for your specific business needs. Happy to welcome to the show today an old friend, work colleague at Fox, and now the FDA commissioner, good man. Dr. Marty Makari. Doc, thanks for joining us today. We really appreciate it.

[Dr. Marty Makari]

Thanks for having me.

[Dan Bongino]

So Doc, I was watching Fox a couple of weeks ago, was it. I'm losing track of time as I get older at 51. Maybe you can help me with the longevity stuff too. But I saw a press conference with Joe Rogan. I think everybody saw it. It was on the weekend. It was about a topic I find really fascinating. Psilocybin, ibogaine, the growing use for PTSD and other, you know, other mental health disorders. A lot of vets have found some use in this and it was just a fascinating press conference.

[Justin]

Where do you see this field going?

[Dan Bongino]

What's the FDA's role? You know, the dangers of it? Give your general perspective on this really explosive trend.

[Dr. Marty Makari]

Well, it's an amazing area of medical research. And we have to listen to the veterans that have had dramatic and profound testimonials where we know there's nothing else that really works well. And so that is data. When people are giving incredible testimonials at scale, that is data. So we can use both our standard randomized control trial models and listen to those stories. You know, we've lost more veterans from suicide than we did the entire Iran, Afghan wars combined. So the wars are over, but our men and women are still dying. And that's because the battle is still raging in their mind. And these products, the psychedelics, are doing something. So we would like to see good data, we'd like to see approvals based on good data. And we want to see them administered in a controlled setting. So you're not just picking it up at a pharmacy. It's administered under medical supervision under very clear circumstances, like we do with other potentially private, problematic drugs. So we'll see where this field goes. But we've issued national priority vouchers. That means we're going to get decisions out quickly. Given the broad mental health epidemic that we have in the United States, we owe it to veterans and we owe it to those suffering with these conditions to get a decision out quickly from the fda.

[Dan Bongino]

Doc, what's the biochemical kind of pharmakinetics of this? Is it some rewiring of the brain component of. I mean, listen, there are a thousand

[Justin]

Twitter doctors out there.

[Dan Bongino]

And listen, it's great. I love the democratization of information, but,

[Justin]

you know, I prefer the actual, you

[Dan Bongino]

know, science on this.

[Justin]

Is it some kind of rewiring? Is it activating components of the brain that just haven't lit up before, teaching new thought patterns? How exactly are these psychedelics proposed to be working?

[Dr. Marty Makari]

You know, it's interesting. We don't know exactly why, but when people have functional MRIs on these medications, what they notice is that the brain is not lighting up, almost as if there's a disconnect or a separation between different emotions or feelings, as if somebody can observe something in the past or reconcile. And you hear testimonials of people reliving an explosion that they witnessed during a war or a trauma in the past. And we don't know how that results in a therapeutic value. We may never know. You know, there are drugs in medicine. We just don't know how they work, but we see results. Steroids, for example. We really don't know how they work. Lithium for bipolar disorder. Maybe this will be one of those medications we'll see, Doc.

[Dan Bongino]

A couple other things I've seen you speak out about, I was really happy to hear about. There's been a lot of scare tactics about, you know, hormone replacement therapy, which has become very popular. I live in the state of Florida. We have a lot of retirees down here. They want to live active lives. I think many of them honestly are more concerned about quality than quantity. I mean, everybody wants to live long,

[Justin]

but they want to live a good life into their 80s and 90s.

[Dan Bongino]

They don't want to be in homes, they don't want to be non ambulatory.

[Justin]

It's a very popular growing treatment.

[Dan Bongino]

However, if you read some of the old reports out there, they tell you

[Justin]

don't touch it, you're going to get

[Dan Bongino]

cancer, you're going to get prostate cancer, you're going to get breast cancer. It seemed like a lot of scare tactics. There should be some massive outbreak down here in Florida if that was the case. I've heard you speak out about this. What's the current FDA stance on this?

[Dr. Marty Makari]

Well, look, these are powerful therapeutics and they're replacing hormones that are normally and naturally in the body. That's the most important thing. Now the benefits are different for men versus women. I think they're far more profound for women postmenopausal who start hormone replacement therapy. And you're right, the fear machine has prevented 50 million women since this dogma got magnified 23 years ago. 50 million women, a lost generation in the minds of some doctors, have never been able to have access or came in asking for it, were talked out of it or were just too afraid because of these scary complications that we now know just didn't play out or, or played out nowhere near the proportions. And the risk benefit ratios for the vast majority of women favor starting it. Women live longer and feel better up to five years longer in some studies. And for men, testosterone therapy enables some people who have normally low testosterone and that can. We don't know if that's from inactivity and not working out as much or if it's what comes first, the chicken or the egg. But men who are older can have low testosterone and replacing that does have some benefits. Now, it's hard to take it for women. For men it's not as easy as for women. They can wear a little band aid type of patch on their body to deliver the estrogen. And there are many ways to get progesterone if it's indicated. For men, it's more difficult to administer and the benefits are not as Profound long term.

[Dan Bongino]

We're talking to Dr. Marty Makari, FDA Commissioner. Doc, the muscle loss is retention of muscle. I should say do it in the opposite is one of the best predictors of longevity along with VO2 max. One of the only ways to do that, of course, is through exercise, resistance training, aerobic training. But there's simply no doubt that we are seeing a decline population wide in these hormone, natural hormone levels, testosterone, estrogen. There's a lot of theories out there why it pesticides I've heard of, you know, estrogen mimetics in our food.

[Justin]

Any thoughts on that?

[Dan Bongino]

And the only reason I ask is

[Justin]

because some of the folks I know

[Dan Bongino]

who are taking these specific products, you know, some of the doctors I talk

[Justin]

to as well will tell you we're really just with the replacement back where normal average people were basically like 100 years ago when they were getting sunlight outdoors and working.

[Dan Bongino]

Your thoughts on that?

[Justin]

Yeah, that's right.

[Dr. Marty Makari]

People are not as active as they used to be. We don't talk enough about screen addiction. It's not just with kids, it's with adults also. So muscle mass is the number one predictor of longevity, just as you pointed out. So, you know, I think activity goes a long way. It goes 100% a long way. If you look at the predictors of what's resulting in the lower fertility rates in the United States and you know, we got some scary trends going on. Puberty is about a week earlier every decade. I mean, that's not a good trend. We see fertility rates declining 5 to 10% with every several year period. That's not a good trend. You talk about existential threat. I mean, that might be it. So there's many theories. One is that it's the chemicals that we're exposed to. Another theory is the microplastics. So we've got active, ongoing research at the NIH Under Secretary Kennedy, not just on drugs and operations, but also on the root causes of these problems.

[Dan Bongino]

Doc, one of the most powerful political movements that I see growing at a just geometric rate right now is this whole MAHA movement, which I am actually proud to align with. We've ignored this topic for too long. We focused and I think you even as a medical doctor would agree that we focus too much on treating the symptoms rather than not getting to the symptoms. And lifestyle changes, lifestyle changes themselves probably would knock out a good portion of cancers, heart disease, strokes, all of it.

[Justin]

So the fact that we're now starting

[Dan Bongino]

to get back to the basics, and one of the things I've seen Your department and Secretary, Secretary Kennedy focus on as well are the foods we're putting in their body. I'd like you to address both the food pyramid, which has been a train wreck for the longest time, and you had people eating rice cakes for a while thinking this was healthy. And then also a second portion out of the dyes and some of the non natural components put into our food supply.

[Dr. Marty Makari]

Well, first of all, we're talking about this for the first time in history. You know, the FDA does not belong to pharma. It belongs to the American people. And that's who we're here to serve. So we're talking about the root causes, not just drugging our nation's kids at scale. When we pound them with ultra processed food again and again and they can't sit still at a desk for six hours and what do we do? We diagnose them and drug them at scale. We've got to take a fresh new approach. So we rewrote the food pyramid with USDA to talk about protein and real food versus ultra processed food. That's the real dichotomy people need to be educated on. It's not avoid tiptoe around natural fat and drink skim milk. That's outdated. That's wrong. Food pyramid in the past was written by the food industry. We're writing it based on good nutrition science. We're also calling out the GRAS standard which allows chemicals to be self declared as safe by companies. We are looking at all the chemicals in the food of children. We started with our action to remove all nine artificial food dyes that are based on petroleum. Kids don't need more petroleum in their body. And then we are moving to the next tier of chemicals. BHA BHT Azodicarbonamide, which puts literally bubbles in yoga mats to make it fluffy. And it's also in sneaker soles. And someone had the idea to put it in dough and feed it to kids to get more volume. Well, what's happening is the kids are eating this nutrient poor food and they're feeling full, but they're not satisfied because they're not getting the nutrients they need. And then they eat more. And that is the result. That's what's resulting in obesity. 40% of our nation's kids have a chronic disease, many related to obesity and diabetes. It's not a willpower problem. This is something we are doing to our nation's kids and it's got to stop.

[Dan Bongino]

Yeah, let's listen. I love petroleum, but keep it in the gas tank. I mean, it's great for maybe jelly on the Vaseline or something, but I'm not sure I want to be, you know, ingesting it. I think that's fantastic. My humble opinion, I can't lavish enough praise on the department for looking into this stuff. We've just never considered this stuff at this kind of scale in the past. And you know, Doc, I tell my friends all the time, you know, at 51, I don't have the luxury of food cheat days and things anymore. I just don't. My body's. The metabolism slows down. You're just not where you were in your 20s. It's really hard to get obese and nutritionally out of shape if you just

[Justin]

shop in the perimeter of the supermarket. I mean, Dr. Marty, you know as well as I do it's very easy

[Dan Bongino]

to eat three or four Snickers when you're really hungry. And that is an enormous amount of sugar and calories. Try eating an equivalent amount of calories in salaries. Excuse me, salads, apples and steak.

[Justin]

It's impossible. Your stomach just can't handle that volume

[Dan Bongino]

when it's natural food.

[Dr. Marty Makari]

Some of the food that we eat today is so chemicalized, it's almost designed to mess with your brain, with the natural feedback loop to the stomach to tell your body, hey, I'm feeling full and I need to stop. It messes with that. For example, a lot of the sugars that people eat are these compressed, processed sugars. They're not the complex carbohydrates that you naturally see in fruit. So both are sugar. But one is spiking your insulin level, putting you in kind of a food coma packaged with other foods that are ultra processed. And the other are. Is natural food, real, what we call real foods. [e-mail] we've told people the truth. We're telling people the truth about hormone replacement therapy, about real food, about whatever other topic out there. There's been dogma. You know, dogma has loomed large in the medical field, and so it's sometimes hard to find out the truth. We're not afraid to tell people.

[Dan Bongino]

Tell people the truth, Doc. Just couple more questions. I really appreciate your time, but I'm not sure the general public and I understand. Listen, not everybody has a time to go into detailed nutritional journal analytics, but I'm not sure they understand the damage that artificial sugar, elevated levels of artificial sugar in the American diet have done, whether it's advanced glycation, end products, chronically elevated insulin, what it does to your vascular system like you said your brain, the chronic ups and downs you get from energy levels and the subsequent crash. Really, I can't say enough. I am so glad to see your department focusing on this, because when, even

[Justin]

when you do things like juices, I'm

[Dan Bongino]

not telling you you have to live a spartan lifestyle.

[Justin]

I'm just saying you strip the fiber

[Dan Bongino]

out of the fruit.

[Justin]

The fruit was meant to be eaten that way because the fiber delays the

[Dan Bongino]

natural sugar from entering the system so you don't get these massive spikes.

[Dr. Marty Makari]

That's right. You get slower absorption of these carbohydrates when they're bound to fiber. It just takes long, a longer time for the sugar to transit the GI tract, which means you're not getting a spike in your insulin levels. So when you spike your insulin levels from a big sugar load, do you know what happens? The body will immediately convert it to fat and move it to the liver. That's why liver cancer is going up in the United States. If I told you that eating the wrong foods, eating too much sugar can cause cancer, you'd say, wait a minute, that's not true. But it is absolutely true. The one type of cancer that is going up in the United States as the. As other cancers are going down is liver cancer. And that's because of the body's natural conversion of fat to the liver to put it in storage when you have too much in your system. And guess what? Percent of teens have too much in their system. A third. A third of teens from studies now have pre diabetes or diabetes. That's exactly what's happening in their body.

[Justin]

Last question for you.

[Dan Bongino]

I've seen some comments from HHS and FDA about artificial intelligence and the use of in cancer detection. I had lymphoma. I had, you know, it was a really not a great time in my life. Luckily, we caught it at stage one. But, Dr. Marty, I was very lucky. It was a very visible lump in the neck.

[Justin]

I could see.

[Dan Bongino]

I could see as I was shaving. Wasn't hard to detect. If you have a cancer like pancreatic, where the symptoms show up typically at stage three to five, there's no recovering from that. I mean, it's possible, but it's very unlikely.

[Justin]

Where do we stand with that?

[Dan Bongino]

Are you optimistic about this technology? Please give me some good news, because I don't want to say I live in fear, but I'll say I live in anxiety of a recurrence. Thank God it's been five years. But cancer patients out there want to hear that the technology is going to finally catch up to this dreadful disease.

[Dr. Marty Makari]

Well, you're exactly right and so glad to see you're doing better. We were cheering you on all the way. You've done really phenomenal. Pancreas cancer is one of the toughest cancers. I took care of pancreas cancer patients for my 22 year career at Johns Hopkins. It was my area of specialty. It's hard when you break bad news to somebody and they look at you and say, is there anything out there and you don't have anything to offer? I mean, it impacts your soul, it makes you think differently, it gives you a sense of urgency. And that's the sense of urgency I bring to the fda. Well, it's an exciting time right now. We had three major announcements in the last couple weeks. One is a new pancreas cancer drug that had promising results. We identified it early and gave it a priority review voucher and approved the expanded access application in two days, which is unheard of. The second announcement was a pancreas cancer vaccine that looks promising. And the third was that researchers at Mayo Clinic say they can identify changes on account CAT scan now using AI up to three years before you develop the cancer. Right now there's no screening for pancreatic cancer. So we got three promising data points on the last couple weeks.

[Dan Bongino]

Dr. Marty Makari, I really appreciate your time. It was great working with you and hearing your commentary over at Fox. And I'm happy to hear that this Maha movement is really a growing and really important phenomenon in the United States and making America healthy, healthy again. You don't have a healthy country. You don't have a country at all, man. You just got a bunch of dying folks. So I really appreciate your time, Doc. Thanks a lot.

[Dr. Marty Makari]

Good to see you folks.

[Justin]

I hope you enjoyed that.

[Dan Bongino]

I know a lot of you are health hackers like me. Dr. Makari's take on AI and cancer, the food pyramid. Be really careful with your sugar intake. I know you've been told that since you were a kid, but this is real, you know. This is not just some luxury item.

[Justin]

Oh, I'm going to have sugar every

[Dan Bongino]

once in a while.

[Justin]

Sugar, alcohol, all of it.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not telling you you got to

[Justin]

live a spartan existence.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm just telling you be very careful. Know what you're putting in your body and understand the consequences.

[Justin]

Check out Haley at [e-mail].

[Dan Bongino]

haley also Vince everyday Vince calling Ace at 8am they're two of our best talent content creators here. Check them out please. And also go download the Rumble app. In the Rumble Store. If you would be so kind, I would deeply appreciate it if you want to check us out on the website web, that's cool. Rumble.com Bongino just click the follow button. It's free. Join us every day in this big Bongino army family. We have at 10am for the live stream. We'd love to see you there. Check us out on Apple and Spotify as well. I'll see you back here tomorrow at 10am hey there. I'm Vince.

[Justin]

I'm Haley Caradilla, host of Vince Host of Scrolling with Haley.

[Dan Bongino]

You can always catch my show right

[Justin]

here, right here on the Bongino Report live, 8am Eastern weekday mornings, weekdays at noon. If you miss it, no worries. The show will always be right here and anywhere you find a podcast.

[Dan Bongino]

Thanks for watching.