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Biden Is Back: "Democracy Is At Stake" | Episode 156
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A suspect has been arrested for putting out a hit on Pam Bondi; Biden gets behind a microphone again; and KJP is trying to save face as her own party outs her
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Vince
Hey everybody. Welcome to Vince on a Tuesday. We have a massive show ahead brought to you by Blackout Coffee, the official coffee of all of us here at silverlock. Go to blackoutcoffee.com Vince. Use the code Vince. That's V I N C E. And you'll get 20% off your first order. Blackout coffee.com Vince. We do have a big show coming up today. We've got Michael Knowles, you know Michael. Michael Knowles from the Daily Wire will be stopping by the program. I'll have him live in studio. So he'll be here coming up shortly. Very eager to have a conversation with him. Is it time for the crusades again? That's the question for Michael Knowles. We're gonna ask him about whether or not, whether or not a bunch of Christians need to conquer the heathens. That's ahead on the program. Also, I wanna talk to you about what's going on with the American left. Some very violent tendencies and some very weak tendencies. Those things definitely go together. We'll take a closer look at that. And Karine Jean Pierre and Joe Biden are back in public and we can look back at them with some sadness because they're both in their own ways, kind of pathetic, but they're doing these things in public. I'll tell you the latest, all ahead on this edition of Vince. It's great to have you here. Best audience anywhere. Hey, do you ever think about aging very much. Does aging force you to think about aging? I know that that's been that way in my case for sure. And as you age, you try to figure out ways I have to get my energy back. And I'm excited to share something called C15 from Fatty 15 with you. It's the first essential fatty acid to be discovered in more than 90 years. Fatty 15 co founder Dr. Stephanie Van Watson discovered the benefits of C15 all while working with the US Navy. And based on studies we know that when our cells don't have enough C15 they can age faster. 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But something I do know about Michael Knowles is he's typically dapper. So I thought to myself as I was getting ready this morning, I said, self, you should wear a jacket. You don't want to be outdapt by Michael Knowles today. So that's the plan. So anyway, for those of you watching rumble.com Vince I do have the jacket on today. I've got the jacket. Here's a question for you. This is something I just Let me start with just a personal obsession and then we'll get into the meat of the show. What do you think about all of the panhandling that you're seeing in the United States of America right now? Are you concerned about this chat? Are you concerned about this panhandling? Is this happening in every community in the country? An increase in the number of people who are standing on medians and street corners, holding hats out and demanding money and saying, please give to me. And then writing a sob story on a piece of cardboard and saying that they desperately need cash. And then you sit there with some skepticism in your car and you're wondering, does this person need help? Exactly. And if I do hand cash out the window, am I only enabling this behavior to happen? People are saying in the chat they're seeing a lot of it in our country. It feels like we have seen a lot more of it over the last, say, decade. Certainly. I live in the Washington, D.C. metro area. I live in Virginia and I've seen the increase kind of dramatically in Northern Virginia just over the last decade. It's the worst it's ever been. Every street corner, it appears, every popular street corner, it appears there are people who are walking up and down trying to get people, get you motorists to give them money. And I'm not against people asking for help. In fact, my Christian conscience tells me constantly, like you should help people. But I try and focus that effort at church. I make contributions to charities and food banks and churches because I do want people to be genuinely helped. I don't want to enable some sort of long run pattern of self sabotage that I think often is associated with the panhandling, I don't like that. Also, it's a sign of societal decline. Don't you think. Don't you think that your community seems to be on the path towards degradation if the street corners are kind of third world filled with people begging for money? Not a good sign at all, actually. So why do we want this now? I was talking to an official yet last night in Fairfax County, Virginia, about this, and I was thinking, what can we do about this? This seems crazy to me that this continues to be an issue. And he said that nearby Loudoun County, Virginia has actually addressed this, which I didn't realize. Loudoun county also has a lot of insane people and leadership, but they had passed an ordinance of some kind that basically said, look, we can't stop people's free speech rights. You stand on the side of the road, you hold your sign, whatever you've written on it. We can't infringe on the First Amendment, but we can tell people, you're not allowed to exchange cash and goods on a public street. You can't do that. It's dangerous to do that. And so apparently Loudon started doing that, and the cops started telling panhandlers, hey, if you do this, we're gonna give you a ticket. So get off the median. And apparently it's had some success. It's worked, which is great news. They've only had to hand out like a dozen tickets because a couple of people refused the cops asking them to get off the corner. And they stayed there and they kept asking for money. So tickets dispensed. But apparently Fairfax County, a disaster still, because they refused, they're run by a bunch of libs. They refuse to tackle the problem. And it leads me to wonder, what is the lib explanation for this? What is the Democrat justification for. For enabling panhandling in your community? What is that? And there is none, actually. There's no sympathetic case for allowing panhandling. There's no justification for this. There are plenty of services and resources available to people who have fallen on hard times that they could go to. They could go to shelters and food banks and get financial assistance. There's welfare, there's unemployment, there's food stamps. There's a million means by which somebody could get the help they need to care for their families. And there is no lib justification for this. The only explanation for why Democrats continue to allow this to happen is because they're perfectly content with the decline of these communities. In fact, that might even be the point that, yes, no, the community's accelerating into decline and despair. Here is public evidence for it as people are begging on your street corners. It's really crazy, actually. And also to be clear, the panhandling is dangerous. Super dangerous, in fact, in Fairfax County, Virginia. Again, this is just a suburb right outside Washington, D.C. in the last year, there was a panhandler who was killed as a vehicular accident took place near him. A car slides right across the median and kills the panhandler. So how is this safe? How is this good for the community? It's not. It's terrible. And it is yet another thing that we're calling out on officials at all levels, not just the federal level. The federal level has all these big picture items to take care of, like deporting millions of illegal aliens who are in our country as out as quickly as possible. But on the local level, if you are a person who is either involved in local politics or who is a local official, let me give you a priority that you can very easily put right at the top of your list today. Get rid of the blight, get rid of the panhandling, get rid of the homelessness. Clean up your community. You wanna grow the tax base. You want people to move to your town. You want things to be healthy? Then fix the problems that are keeping people away and driving people away. Like stuff like this. Wild. Anyway, so chat. You're telling me it's everywhere? It's all across the country right now? Yeah, it does feel like that. It does. I travel all over the place and then I see this and I think, this isn't good for us. Not good. You know, America, I've always, especially if you've ever traveled internationally, you realize kind of the desperate lives that so many people live in other places on this planet as compared to the United States. And then when you see some of that desperation arriving in your own communities, all of the alarm bells should be going off. This is a bad slide that we're experiencing. Yeah. Kickley Bass 2 says everywhere is correct. It's everywhere in Las Vegas. Yeah. Aughie Dog also Las Vegas Boulevard. Super dangerous in Las Vegas. And people are idiots when they try and cross that. Very, very dangerous to try and cross it. People do. And they get killed every year. All sorts of people getting killed on Las Vegas Boulevard. Completely insane. Memphis has folks on every corner. Yeah. No, it's bad. And so no wonder people move away from the cities. They get out of the cities. They get away from the suburbs that are real close to the cities. That's why they're called Suburban, and they just move out to the rest of the country because they want to get away from all that blight. But what does that leave behind? It leaves behind these communities that are just completely dysfunctional and increasingly so, which is why I'm really annoyed by the emergence of people like Zoran Mamdani. Zoran Mamdani, who is a full blown socialist. He's a communist who is right now destined to become the next mayor of New York City. And he is a symptom of the very decline that I'm talking about, this sort of phony empathy where, oh, we're gonna take care of everybody. Things are gonna improve dramatically for all of these communities if only you put the socialist in charge. They'll just take all the money from the rich people and then they'll give it to the poor people and there will be no problems. Well, that sounds perfectly fine if you're a completely naive, childish moron. But if you have any experience in real life, what you've learned, especially if you have any sense of history, what you've learned is that every one of these socialist experiments, these communist experiments throughout history, have led to disgusting concentrations of wealth, utter corruption by the people in power who take all of the wealth, and then utter despair for the people who are robbed and have to live in communities that are made worse by that political ideology every single time. That's why the biggest body counts of the 20th century belong to socialism and communism. It's because it never leads to good things. It always leads to despair. Which is why you and I constantly make a mockery of this idea that. Oh, yeah, but it's never been really tried. Oh, it's never been done the right way. No, it's been done exactly the way that you would think you would try to pull it off. And every single time, it ends poorly. Every single time. It's one of the reasons Bernie Sanders, by the way, is. Well, he's a cartoon character. But don't let his cartoonish demeanor disarm you. The guy's a Soviet. And when he says that he's opposed to these concentrations of power, the millionaires and the billionaires and all the corporations and all this stuff, he taps into a small truth, a meaningful one, which is that concentrations of power, the bigger that they grow and the more out of control they become, they can create problems for your life. Certainly. See what the big tech companies did as they seized control of all the communication in the United States and then censored especially huge categories of conservatives to prevent you from having realistic conversations about our elections. That matters a great deal. Those concentrations of power and the abuses of that concentration of power is something that you should be vigilant for. I certainly am. I'm always. Any power center in the United States deserves scrutiny, whether it's in the media or in the big tech companies, but also, and certainly and very importantly, in the government. So Bernie's answer to corrupt concentrations of power is to create the single most corrupt, single most inefficient, single most tyrannical concentration of power. That's insanity. That's not the way out of this. That's the way to kill your country, actually. And that's what Zoran Mamdani believes in. This is his worldview. And he can smile all he wants and he can act friendly and chipper and he can do the podcasts and convey himself as some sort of good hearted, decent people person. But his political ideology is completely suicidal and destructive. Communism will wreck New York City and by extension, the United States of America. Communism. Just imagine, New York is the capitalist center of the United States. It's the financial center of our country. And what Zornon Mamdani represents is a full blown attack on capitalism, on the free market, on the financial center of our country, being launched internally with the support of the insane voters of New York City who are now on board with this. Now, who are the people in New York City who are supporting this? Well, one, it's a massive immigrant population. Certainly New York has changed dramatically over these last few decades. Just a lot of people who have come into the country who now live in New York City, who are now voters who don't really have any sort of intrinsic loyalty to the ideologies that made this country great, are all in on voting for the commie in New York City. That's true. It's a city with kind of a lost identity, no question. It is a city that anybody with means and sense about them has basically abandoned. In fact, Florida right now is the home of a lot of former New York City refugees. In fact, some of you are probably in the chat right now. People who've escaped Manhattan escaped New York City because it's too insane. There's too many taxes, and it doesn't in any way represent you and certainly has done everything it can to infringe on your liberty. So you escape a lot, like, kind of like the Trump family. Candidly, the Trump family escaped New York. They went to Florida. They're down there. They're not interested anymore in being in that city. And so what's been left behind is the people who had no other options and the most radical elements and an immigrant community that is completely untethered from any sort of American ideals. There was no assimilation whatsoever. And so now Zoran Mamdani seems to be the guy who they're on the verge of picking. And there is an immense weakness on the Democrat side, an immense weakness. So the socialists, the commies, are ascendant. The violent people in their party are ascendant. The most radical elements, whether it's the Islamists, the communists, the anarchists, they're ascendant. They've got all the power in the party because at the top of their party is nothing but cowardice. Nothing but cowardice. They are so scared of their own violent, in many cases base, that they're willing to accede to all of their demands. For instance, Hakeem Jeffries, who is the leader of the Democrats in the House, just this past weekend made the late game decision to offer a tepid endorsement of Zoran Mamdani. That's right. The New York congressman, the leader of the Democrats in the United States House of Representatives, has now taken the position that Zoran Mamdani's our guy. In other words, your party is not hiding it at all. Your most establishment figures are officially endorsing the commies. You're done for. Watch. Here's Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, cut six. Pointing out what has happened to that party.
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Mike Johnson
There was a little bit of a seismic shift in politics. All of you noticed it over the weekend. We saw our clearest sign yet that this radical insurgent movement in the Democrat Party is succeeding and they are ending what has always been known as the Democrat Party in America. The candidate that they have endorsed, Mom Dahme, is somebody who we've talked about a lot from this podium. He sympathized with Hamas and openly embraced anti Semitic language. He has called to, quote, seize the means of production because he is a Marxist. He's called to abolish our borders, to abolish and end immigration enforcement, to do defund the police and to legalize prostitution. Among a long list of hits that I could share with you. Zoran Mamdani is expected to take the helm of one of the most important cities in the world and largest city in America. And he now has the full blessing of the Democrat leader in the House of Representatives. It is shocking. It's an extraordinary moment in the history of American politics. This is not the kind of history that we need to be making. What we're witnessing is truly the End of the Democratic Party as we've known it. And even some Democrats are now saying that out loud.
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Vince
Defund the police, open the borders, legalize prostitution. He wants to empty Rikers. By the way, his solution to violence on city buses is to make the buses free. His view, as he's declared it, is that that would decrease the tendency of violent people to punch bus drivers because they have to pay fares in order to get on the bus. That's his thought process. Now he's this guy. I haven't checked. Does he have children? You can't be a parent. This is an insane view to have. If you're responsible for anybody in your life, if you love them, if you've ever had to discipline them, the last thing you do is enable their worst behavior by acceding to their little tyrannical demands. No, you make them better. You impose consequences on them. You say, no, you can't punch bus drivers just because you have to pay a fare. If you take a swing, you go to jail. You have to have consequences. We need a community that's safe and people who have violent tendencies, even if they can't be disciplined out of them, if they just have never ending, torrential violent tendencies, well, then send them away forever. Get them out of the community. Remove the antisocial, destructive, violent people from the community that wants to just live and exist in peace. You understand where all of this goes? It's not that complicated. You know, if he makes it so that the government owns all of the grocery stores, there won't be groceries. These are very simple things to understand. And yet way too many New Yorkers or people who now claim to be New Yorkers are in a position right now to make this guy the mayor of New York City. And Mike Johnson's right. He's pointing out that that party is full of weakness. And when you get weakness in leadership, you get danger in the base. Coming up, I've got more for you on another left wing violent threat to the Trump administration. I'll get to that and what it bodes for our country. And then the big conversation ahead with Michael Knowles joining me in studio. We'll chat about this phenomenon and where we go from here because I do feel like I'm of two minds. One, I feel like I have a lot of optimism for our country right now. I love what the president is doing. I love you this audience. I feel like conservatives have never been more clear thinking about the direction that this country needs to go in. There's a resurgence of faith going on in the country. It's wonderful to see. But at the same time, the opposition is more chaotic, more violent, more completely out of control than ever. And that's not sustainable. So how do we navigate out of this? We'll continue to explore that today in the shows ahead on this edition on. Vince, good to have you with us. Hey, Blackout Coffee is the name of one of our great sponsors. One of our great, great sponsors. Appreciate them. 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And if you are current or former military, Birch Gold has a special offer just for you. They're waiving custodial fees for the first year on investments of any amount with an A plus rating. With the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers, many of which are my listeners, I encourage you to diversify your savings into gold. Text my name, Vince, to the number 989-898 for a free info kit and claim your eligibility for free silver with qualifying purchase before the end of the month. Again, text Vince to 989-898. Do it today. Message and data rates apply. Yes, they do. All right, thank you to Burch Gold for being great. All right, so here's the thing. We got the the another violent, very violent threat to the Trump administration, this time against the Attorney General of the United States, Pam Bundy. The FBI has just announced that they've made an arrest against a man who placed a $45,000 bounty on the head of President Trump's Attorney General. Take a look. Cut one.
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Karine Jean Pierre
We start right now with the alleged murder for hire plot targeting Attorney General Pam Bondi. A 29 year old Minnesota man was arrested earlier this month after police say he posted that threat on TikTok. The FBI reportedly tipped off by another TikTok user to his post offering a $45,000 bounty. That post had a photo of Bondi with a sniper scope red dot on her head. The suspect, Tyler Maxson Avalos, has ties to anarchist ideology, according to the FBI. He also has prior convictions for felony stalking, domestic battle, domestic assault, according to court documents.
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Vince
All right, so the media and the FBI, they've been referring to this guy as an anarchist. You know, when you think anarchy, you think typically somebody who just doesn't want any government whatsoever. So maybe this is some attempt to try and disconnect him from any sort of left right distinction. But I'm here to tell you a couple things. One, people on the right, conservatives are for order and the left is for disorder. So what you just heard is a description of somebody who is a radical on behalf of disorder and anarchist who is looking to create chaos in the United States of America. Additionally, on his social media accounts, the suspect placed himself on the, quote, far left of the political compass. He posted on one of the memes on social media as well as Free Palestine. That was the post that was pinned on his social media account. This is all like crazy left wing claptrap stuff that he was expressing. So what we have is yet another lefty trying to kill somebody whose job is quite literally to bring order to the country. So the disorder extremist is trying to kill the woman whose job it is to bring order to the United States of America. You following? So, and this is not, you know, not crazy that this is happening. I mean, like I say all the time, it's not shocking, but it is appalling that this is happening in the United States. And the reason I say that is because the left has a assassination culture. If you've got 50% of lefties, which you do, who desire President Trump's assassination and could have justified it, it's no surprise that there are people putting out hits on Attorney General Pam Bondi on the left. In fact, they're routinely being inflamed by people like the Illinois governor, G.B. pritzker. And these Democrats, again, they're weak. They don't even have the courage of any sort of conviction whatsoever. Day by day, they will change how they talk in order to suit the political moment. But meanwhile, they're inflaming weak and vicious minds to take up arms against people like Donald Trump and the people who work for him. Look at JB Pritzker saying this week that he's never once suggested Donald Trump is Hitler. And then he goes on to compare Trump to Hitler over and over and over and over and over again. Cut five, Watch.
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J.B. Pritzker
I haven't suggested that Donald Trump is Hitler. The dangers that we saw in, in, you know, Nazi Germany are the dangers that we need to react to now. It doesn't take very long to tear apart a constitutional republic. Indeed, the Nazis did it in 53 days. That's not the country we live in. You know, you shouldn't have to walk around with papers the way that they did in, in the early days of Nazi Germany. I do not invoke the specter of Nazis lightly. I'm watching with a foreboding dread what is happening in our country right now. A president who watches a plane go down in the Potomac and suggests without facts or findings that a diversity hire is responsible for the crash. The authoritarian playbook is laid bare here.
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Vince
How can you possibly compare what happened in Germany in World War II to what's going on here in the United States?
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J.B. Pritzker
Well, we're talking about the death of a constitutional republic. That's what happened in Germany. 1933, 1934.
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Vince
And J.B. pritzker is not alone. I mean, even Joe Biden just popped up in public yesterday or this week at a Ted Kennedy thing. By the way, no other top Democrat in Massachusetts showed up. They're all embarrassed by Joe Biden now, so everyone refuses to be in the same room with him. But he's still mouthing the same words. And democracy's at stake. Democracy's at stake. Here he is cut to again. Listen, this kind of rhetoric is just inflaming weak and vicious minds. Watch this, folks.
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Joe Biden
We can't kid ourselves. We are in one of those moments right now. My over 50 years in elected public life. This is the worst I've seen it. If Ted were here today, he'd still be fighting like hell, but his optimism would be surely tested. Truth be told, our very democracy is at stake. In my view, we all agree that our politics is broken, that political violence, never acceptable, is out of hand, that America should be a place not of extremism and fury, but of decency and grace. That our institutions are what makes us envy the world.
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Mike Johnson
And.
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Joe Biden
And our democracy is worth fighting like hell for.
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Vince
It's about our democracy. Listen to the way he talks. And he's like. What he's suggesting, quite obviously, is that all the political extremism and violence is coming from the right. Of course, this is a completely asymmetric situation where the overwhelming preponderance of all of the violence that we're seeing is actually coming from the left. And if that man has any sort of late stage, sort of realization of his life's work, he should feel a deep sense of shame that he's inflamed the very extremism that we're witnessing in the United States as he lectures the rest of us about extremism. Let me bring in our guest now. I want to talk about this and so much more with the great Michael Knowles, who I'm very happy to have in studio with me now. Michael Knowles of the Daily Wire, who I've had the pleasure of interviewing through the years and occasionally getting together with you at, like, CPACs and things. It's nice to see you here.
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Michael Knowles
Good to see you, sir. I realize this is my first time in person in your studio.
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Vince
Well, I'm glad.
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Michael Knowles
I like the digs.
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Vince
I appreciate it. And I was worried. I told the audience. I was like, I bet you he's gonna wear a jacket. Gotta wear a jacket to work today.
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Michael Knowles
So I meant to wear my top hat. I left my top hat next time.
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Vince
If you did, I would have been outclassed again. All right, so it is nice to see you. My view of our country right now is that there's cause for tremendous optimism about what's happening on the right and tremendous despair about what's happening on the left. I'm concerned about the assassination culture. Like, you just saw a Friend of yours, Charlie Kirk gunned down. And the left, I thought maybe they would show some signs of like, whoa, we took this a little too far. Let's back it down. They never did. What is that?
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Michael Knowles
No, they certainly did not. In fact, they ratcheted up the rhetoric. The reason I'm in town is I'll be testifying on Capitol Hill on political violence. And one of the members of the subcommittee that I'll be speaking to is Cory Booker. Cory Booker continues to endorse Jay Jones, who text messages have revealed has called for a Republican to be murdered. The Republicans kids to be murdered to die in their mother's arms. And said that he would urinate on the graves of other Republicans. Cory Booker refuses to pull his endorsement. It's not just Booker. I don't just want to beat up on Booker. Think about Ilhan Omar, who made a few perfunctory comments about Charlie after he was murdered and then said he has no legacy to honor, called him a racist, called him a bigot. She's accused him of stochastic terrorism. I mean, you saw it. You saw it all over your social media feeds at every level of the left, minimizing, excusing, and even celebrating political violence. So this is backed up in studies. YouGov had a couple of surveys out showed that very liberal people are eight times as likely to justify political violence as conservative people. It's getting worse as you look at younger voters. So that's damaging to the country. I guess the one silver lining I would say to that, though, Vince, is yes, there's good signs on the right and bad signs on the left, but the broader good sign for the country is it seems like the left is losing ground. It seems like most people are completely turned off by this.
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Vince
So people use. The left has used this phrase, stochastic terrorism that you just referred to as a way to try and police speech. In other words, like you're not allowed to stay. Basically what they're saying is that on the right, you're not allowed to say true things out loud.
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Michael Knowles
Yes.
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Vince
Or else you're gonna inflame very violent react.
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Michael Knowles
Because our speech is violence and their violence is speech.
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Vince
Yes. But meanwhile, the left is showing no responsibility whatsoever for its language and is truly. I use this phrase because Teddy Roosevelt used it after he was shot by an assailant who tried to assassinate him. He stands up, he gives a speech with a bullet in his chest. And he said that weak and vicious minds were inflamed to these passions by his political opponents who were Lying about him. Yes, well, that is true now. So you've got a left wing media who still exists with this bubble that they've created, this cocoon they've created around a very radical Democrat base who believe the lies. They believe Cory Booker, they believe J.B. pritzker. When J.B. pritzker's like, Trump is Hitler. And so they begin to think, well, my only recourse is to take up arms.
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Michael Knowles
Think about what Joe Biden said. Joe Biden launched his campaign in 2020 on the lie that Trump endorsed Nazis in Charlottesville and on the lie that Trump posed an existential threat to the country. How many times did you hear that on the trail? Trump poses an existential threat to democracy, to the country. What is the logical consequence of that rhetoric? Yes, look, threats can be met in a variety of different ways. An existential threat justifies violence, justifies assassination, which is what we very nearly got in Butler, Pennsylvania.
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Vince
Yes. And so what they do is they dress this all up in kind of like the language of the revolution, like we have to throw off the king or whatever. But I tend to think that they're more confederate than they are patriot.
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Michael Knowles
They're at least the French Revolution.
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Vince
You know what I mean?
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Michael Knowles
Throw off the head of the king, I think. Yes.
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Vince
Yeah. It's completely out of control. We're watching. So for instance, J.B. pritzker, who I just mentioned, and Brandon Johnson, who this very week, Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, said, don't use the phrase illegal alien. Have you seen this clip?
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Michael Knowles
I did see it.
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Vince
It's racist to use the expression illegal alien. It's just like calling a black person a slave.
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Michael Knowles
That's an amazing statement for a few reasons. One, if you referred to a slave as a slave when there was slavery, that actually would have been the right thing to do. To call a slave a free man when there was slavery would not make any sense.
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Vince
It would be a lie. It would be a lie. Yes.
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Michael Knowles
Then we abolished slavery. To call an illegal alien an illegal alien is simply precise language. It tells you what the person is. As far as I know, we haven't fully abolished borders yet. I know the Democrats have tried to, but that's just clear language. The fact that he won't use that language tells you what he wants to do. He wants to lie about who these people are, to lie about what the law is supposed to do to change our political order.
- [35:31]
Vince
And he's also using references to historic bondage to justify the current day exploitation of humans.
- [35:37]
Michael Knowles
Yeah.
- [35:37]
Vince
So he's like. And he's also trying to convince. It's really cruel because what he's trying to also do is convince black people that their cause is to defend illegal immigration. You know what I mean?
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Michael Knowles
It's news to me.
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Vince
It's so disgusting on every element. So the point, the point that I'm making is merely that these guys are rejecting decency. They're rejecting federal supremacy for sure. And they're sowing the seeds of chaos. They're neo confederates in our time.
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Michael Knowles
And the very fact that their violence is not counted in the independent data sets and certainly in the federal data sets is how they get away with it. Because you've heard this lie. They say, well, well, the majority of political violence comes from the right. And you've had congressmen say this, you've had media figures say this. Now it's harder to make that argument now after the Atlantic just admitted, based on a new study, that even with their cooked numbers, most political violence comes from the left, not the right. But look at some of the most prominent examples. The BLM riots, which left dozens of people dead, over a billion dollars worth of damage. Generally speaking, not classified as political violence. You remember the image of CNN saying that there was a fire in the background in Kenosha. They said it's a fiery but mostly peaceful. That was not counted as political violence. Yes, there was an attack on an event when I was speaking at a university. It was two antifa operatives. I mean, these are card carrying anarchists, leftist antifa operatives. Not counted as political violence. So look, it's clear the left doesn't commit political violence so long as you don't count the political violence the left commits.
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Vince
It's just like dishonest fun with statistics. That's always the case. It's like, remember for years it's been like, well, since September 12, 2001, most of the terrorists haven't been Muslim. Well, wait a second, you don't say, wait, there was a specific date that I feel like you're leaving out. Yeah, no, that is the game that they play. So here's the obvious huge question that looms over anybody who cares about the future of this country is like, what do we do about this? And I will say that one thing that I wish President Trump would do is to actually invoke the Insurrection Act.
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Michael Knowles
Yeah, like he's threatened to do it.
- [37:41]
Vince
He's threatened to do it a lot. He's threatened to do it over the last two administrations. His predecessors as president have done it a lot, a lot throughout history. And Dwight Eisenhower And JFK and everybody invoked the Insurrection Act. Why shouldn't President Trump. Shouldn't we just. Shouldn't we put an end to the chaos? If there's an option to do it, shouldn't we invoke it?
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Michael Knowles
You know, I think Trump said this in a Cabinet meeting. He wanted first to send in federal troops when they were invited in red states. So blue cities in red states makes it a little bit easier to do. And he tried that out. It seemed to work pretty well. Then he was fighting with the Democrat governors of the blue states, still trying to quell unrest in the cities. I understand why it's a little bit politically touchy. But, you know, there's a very important ancient lesson of politics which is that the law is a teacher and we have let this situation spiral out of control. It's been encouraged by the Democrats for many years now. But we cannot continue as a country if our cities are burning. If you have radical, organized left wing terror and so, sure, the Insurrection act, it's a great idea. I would also like to see the federal government go after organized left wing terror in the same way that the government went after the Ku Klux Klan, in the same way that the government went after the Mafia. We do have tools at our disposal and I think they need to be used. These are networks with uniforms, with flags, with meetings, with funding networks, in fact, some nonprofit funding networks. You need to follow that money, follow those operatives and put them behind bars.
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Vince
Right. And make people fearful, if they're gonna engage in societally destabilizing behavior, that there will be consequences for getting involved.
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Michael Knowles
That's right.
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Vince
Yeah. No, it makes common sense to me. Now, we do see some signs of progress on that front. It is very clear, for instance, like Scott Basson's the Treasury Secretary, and he just came out recently and said in that capacity where they track all the financial transactions, to the extent the government does that, they are looking super closely at this with aggression. So that's good. And it seems like Attorney General Pampondi knows what the mission is, so we'll see what the fruits of those labors are. But, boy, something has to give. I will say, I wonder to what how you look at the Biden era. I'm curious about whether or not you think that it might have been good in any way for our country. I think President Trump thinks it was, in a way, because it steeled him for battle. It improved him for sure. Like he went through the fire. I think a lot of us now in hindsight recognize that God's plan is much better than ours. It's more thoughtful, for sure. One other thing I've noticed, and I know you care sincerely about this, is it does seem like there has been something of a spiritual revival in the country because of the despair. There's like nothing like suffering to make you turn to God. What do you think of the Biden era in terms of that impact on the country?
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Michael Knowles
You know, there's a spiritual analogy here, actually, which is, I often think as a consortium, conservative, Catholic, I'm grateful for the Pope Francis pontificate, even though it was a little confusing at times, a little frustrating. I said, look, I reverted to the faith. This spiritual awakening among particularly conservative people. It actually started under Pope Francis. Maybe they were reacting to something in that pontificate. I don't know what it was, but I think you see something similar playing out in politics, which is Biden showed how bad it could get. You really had a full mask off. Illegal aliens flooding into the country by the millions and left wing political terror trying to prosecute your political opponents and predecessors raiding the homes of your predecessors. I mean, stuff that we never thought in a million years could happen in the United States, to say nothing of the substantive issues like trying to mutilate children's genitals. I mean, just imprisoning pro lifers who are praying outside of abortion mills. Just the kind of extremism that even the farthest left person in the 90s couldn't have envisioned. We saw that happen and what happened as a result? Last November, most Americans went out and they voted for Trump and the Republican won the popular vote for the first time in four years. That's great. You know, the classical Christian view of this is when God sends us good leaders, that's a wonderful thing. We thank him for his grace. And when God sends us bad leaders, it's to chastise us. And we thank him for that lesson, too, and then hope for something better.
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Vince
Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, obviously, like, you know, leadership being sinners is like a feature of the Bible, definitely. So it's not the most unusual thing, but it does feel like we're living through an important moment. Also, thinking about the life of Charlie Kirk, you know, people have pointed to. And I really do think he's a Christian martyr because I think Christianity was the animating principle of his cause.
- [42:11]
Michael Knowles
He said it was the most important thing he wanted to be remembered for.
- [42:14]
Vince
But I can see why he leaned so heavily into it. It's because Charlie was a debater. Charlie had to sit on college campuses and debate with people. And you know this. Having engaged in a lot of debates, at some point, you have to back up all the way to your first principles.
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Michael Knowles
Yes.
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Vince
Like, you just keep. Like you have to offer justifications for why you've reached this position. And so it becomes super obvious the more you engage in real debate, the more that you have to draw on your first principles. And what's happened is as our countries become more chaotic, I think a lot of people are like, well, wait, why do I believe this? Where does this thought come from that there is a distinction between men and women? Why should I be looking after my own house or my own community? What are my obligations to my fellow man? The answers are all kind of in the Bible, aren't they?
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Michael Knowles
Do you remember all those stupid lines that people would say 20 years ago? They'd say, you can't legislate morality. You cannot pass a law about speeding or a parking ticket without legislating morality. You need recourse to morality in any aspect of public life. And so, yes, Charlie obviously understood that very clearly, and I think you're totally right. At a certain point, debates over right and wrong and good and bad have to come down to sin and grace. And Charlie understood that very well. There is reporting out, and I think it's pretty well backed up that you're seeing a big spike in Bible sales, you're seeing a big spike in church attendance since his assassination. I guess you'd say that's silver lining. In the storm cloud, you've seen the decline of Christianity level off. That was a trend that was beginning. It's starting to tick back up. You're seeing adult conversions increase. Why is that? I'll tell you exactly why. Because people might not be totally sure if God exists, but when you've lived long enough, you can be dead certain that evil exists. And I think we've seen a lot of evil in a very visceral, palpable way in our country, especially in the last five years. And I think that reminds people, oh, hold on. If there's evil, there must be good. And maybe I need to think more deeply about the moral foundations of our country and even who I am and what my place is in it.
- [44:14]
Vince
Yes. Did you ever envision that Donald Trump would be the vehicle through which this conversation would be happening in the end?
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Michael Knowles
You know, I don't want to speak for God, but he does have some of the attributes of a man after God's own heart, doesn't he? He's out there. He's jubilant he's very energetic.
- [44:32]
Vince
Yes.
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Michael Knowles
And he's a man of very public flaws who nevertheless persists and, you know, says, look, he wants to go in the right direction, he wants to improve, he wants to go to heaven. He says on Air Force One. And he recognizes, in a way that is charming, it's not pretentious, it's not agonized. He just says, look, we're a Christian country. I want to be good, more good, less bad, and I want us all to flourish.
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Vince
But also, in reality, all of us are flawed, for sure. Most of us are better at being deceitful about our flaws, I think. So in other words, Trump's. Trump. What's great about him is it's so obvious what he's thinking all the time. He's not typical. Typical politicians will conceal their flaws. They'll kind of try and hide all of the ways that they are truly cruel and awful, which is kind of a feature of American politics. Trump doesn't bother to hide anything. He doesn't hide his flaws. He doesn't hide what he's thinking. He doesn't hide his. His passions. It's like, in a way, it's kind of a virtue.
- [45:40]
Michael Knowles
Not only is that in itself a virtue, but I've said it for years, and I've been mocked for it, but I'm right. Trump is one of the most humble politicians I have seen in my life. I'll tell you why. At Charlie's memorial service, he gets up there, he says, charlie wanted the best for his enemies. He prayed for them. He goes, I want the worst for my enemies. I don't pray for them at all. And people were offended by this. He's telling a joke, obviously, but he said, look, Charlie's looking down. He's angry at me right now.
- [46:06]
Vince
I totally agree.
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Michael Knowles
What is he saying? He's saying, Charlie was better than me in this.
- [46:10]
Vince
I totally agree with you.
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Michael Knowles
Do you remember Vince, one time, it was like St. Patty's Day or something, and they said, Mr. President, you gonna have a beer? And he said, no, I'm not. I've never had a beer. I'm probably the only president that's never had a beer. It's the only good thing you can say about me. Can you imagine if I drank? I'd be the worst? I said, that is a statement of humility, for sure. No one seems to get. Get the humor.
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Vince
I totally agree with you. And in fact, I saw you say this, and this is the same thought. I had to. I thought that was an expression of humility. And it was being treated as like, this guy's such an oaf. He's so prideful, he can't get over himself. Why can't he be a better person? I was like, he's kind of indicating something interesting. And in fact, on Trump's spiritual journey, it does seem like there's other things happening. Now, I know there's a lot of. I don't wanna get too theological on this particular question, but there's a lot of wrestling going on. Every time President Trump says, I'm not getting into heaven, I'm not a good enough person. One, that's another sign of humility. He's doing that again. Yes, it is. But two, then, of course, all the Protestants come climbing in to be like, all you gotta do is profess faith in Jesus. You're in. And like. And like. And then it becomes this huge theological debate.
- [47:16]
Michael Knowles
Now we're debating the Pelagian controversy. I know we're very far afield when we do it, but.
- [47:21]
Vince
Yes, but I just. I do think I'm encouraged by it. I feel like I know my. It's like I feel like my mother. Like, oh, I'm so happ. I'm so happy he's talking like this. Yeah. Because it's like Trump had a brush with death. He stayed alive. And then he. And I think he wasn't just, like, trying to convince Christians to support him. He meant it. He was like, God saved my life for a reason.
- [47:40]
Michael Knowles
Yes. When Trump comes out, he says, look, I want to make God happy. Dare I say that is childlike humility and reverence. And then, furthermore, when he says, I wanna go to heaven, I don't know if I'm gonna get there. I certainly don't deserve it. I. One might say that's even working out one's salvation with fear and trembling. I don't know. To me, I'm with you, Vince. I'm totally encouraged by it.
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Vince
It's just been totally amazing. Okay, so tell me about your testimony. So you're gonna. It sounds like. I mean, I've never known you to be a wallflower. You're gonna be talking to people like Cory Booker on Capitol Hill.
- [48:14]
Michael Knowles
Cory Booker. Adam Schiff will be there. Adam Schiff, Macy Hirono, you imagine.
- [48:18]
Vince
So do you plan on addressing their own responsibility for inflaming all of this nonsense?
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Michael Knowles
In fact, I do, yes. Because I think that leading Democrats have had every opportunity in the world to tone back their rhetoric, to, at the very least, renounce the endorsements that they've Made of politicians who continue to call for this kind of rhetoric. And they won't do it. You know, they just keep denying it. They keep gaslighting. They keep pointing to the other side. So we're gonna bring something to Capitol Hill today that is rarely there, which is facts and evidence. And we'll see what they have to say.
- [48:54]
Vince
Yes, there's gonna be an immense effort by these guys. And by the time some people hear this, these things will have already occurred. But there will be an immense effort, I can promise you, by these Democrats to claim that this is somehow a both sides problem.
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Michael Knowles
Of course.
- [49:07]
Vince
And they're gonna try lay out, they're gonna lay out a number of events. They're gonna lay out the assassination of those politicians in Minnesota. They're gonna say that that's a creature of the right. They're gonna talk about the hammer attack by the illegal alien from Canada on Paul Pelosi, these things, and they'll say that's the right. Those are Trump people who did that.
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Michael Knowles
Yeah, yeah. The hippie nudist from, you know, the.
- [49:30]
Vince
Illegal alien from Canada.
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Michael Knowles
The illegal alien from Canada. I don't think that one's gonna land. Totally. You know, of course, what they're going to go Back to is January 6th, the worst day in the history of the world. And so I look forward to providing a little historical context for January 6th and the real century long history of political violence in this country, which predominantly in the Capitol.
- [49:50]
Vince
How much left wing attack? How many left wing attacks have there been on the Capitol?
- [49:54]
Michael Knowles
Yeah, at least four, by my count, have come from the left with explosives. Only one has come with a horn hat and a lectern. And that was, I guess that was the right wing attack. But I don't really see a comparison between the two.
- [50:06]
Vince
Amazing. Well, I'm so thank you for doing this and thank you for showing up today. I appreciate you coming out here. For people who don't realize, like, our studio's a little out of the way in D.C. to the point that, like, people come here and they're like, this is a little further than I expected.
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Michael Knowles
I always love visiting North Carolina. So it's great. It was wonderful, man.
- [50:23]
Vince
You know, it makes me feel good.
- [50:24]
Michael Knowles
We're about as.
- [50:24]
Vince
We're on the, as far on the edge of the swamp as you could possibly be.
- [50:28]
Michael Knowles
That's right.
- [50:29]
Vince
Michael Knowles, it was so good to see you.
- [50:30]
Michael Knowles
Thank you, sir. Pleasure to be with you as always.
- [50:32]
Vince
It was great to have you here, brother. This is really nice. What a treat to have Michael Knowles stop by and everybody is all in the chat. Everybody's saying that they're gonna go back to church now.
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Michael Knowles
All right, we did it.
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Vince
Yeah. No, I'm just kidding. Some people are like, stop talking about the Bible. I don't care. I'm sorry. I'm here to tell you. We just talk about the truth here. That's the job. Thank you, Michael.
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Michael Knowles
Thank you, sir.
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Vince
That's Michael Knowles. Great to see him. And it is really funny. Really funny to. I'm so glad Michael's going to Congress today to confront all these. These senators, these idiots.
- [51:06]
Michael Knowles
Wonderful.
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Vince
Hey, Michael, what time is that testimony? People are asking 2:32, 30 Eastern Time. He'll be testifying before Congress. So perhaps as you're listening to this podcast, that will have already occurred. And hopefully we'll have some fire highlights tomorrow on the show. Thank you, Michael. Michael's heading out. All right, let's see. I've got a couple more things I wanted to hit with you. Oh, Karine Jean Pierre is. Talk about dumpster fires. She spent so much time lying to the American people and doing it in the most ineloquent fashion. Now the Democrats, they're done with her. They're done with Joe Biden. They're just dispensing with him. They dispensed with him a while ago and now they're done with her because she's useless to them. She's incapable of spinning you into believing their lies. So they're getting rid of her. So she wrote this book. And what's happening is all of these lefty shows are bringing her in to treat her like garbage, to pretend like she was the reason that the Biden administration was an utter disaster, not the horrific policies of the administration. Here's Coringe trying to keep her head above water in all these crazy interviews. Watch, cut to Robert Herr was unemployable.
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Karine Jean Pierre
For a period because of the attacks from the Democrats and from the White House that you were at the podium leading. Have you apologize to Robert her. I mean, look, what I can say to you is I've seen the. I saw the president every single day. It wasn't one offs. It wasn't once in a while. I saw him every day. He is someone that was sharp.
- [52:42]
Vince
Case.
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Karine Jean Pierre
Have you gone back to someone who he was. You had pretty sharp comments about. And we all saw a different reality and your personal capacity. What I'm saying is my reality was this. My reality was somebody that I saw every single day who was sharp, who pushed his team, was understanding very clearly of the policy of history. That is what I saw. I could only speak for what I saw on a daily basis for two and a half years, almost four years actually. And I was White House press secretary, obviously for two and a half years.
- [53:15]
Vince
Okay, so there's a couple of things going on in this clip. One of them is that Karine Jean Pierre continues her delusional series of lying that is always been a feature of all of her public commentary. She just lies. Yeah, Joe Biden was totally fine. Now pay attention to the game that's being played, though. You understand why they're having her on. The reason that these lefty outlets are having her on is a way to use her as a human shield for how they lied to their own audiences. Right. You understand. So in other words, Democrat news consumers, to the extent that you can call them that were watching places like msnbc, which on a routine basis was telling them, yeah, Joe Biden's of totally sound mind. He's the smartest man in the room. Joe Biden's got all the energy in the world. He's out hustling everybody in the White House, on and on and on and on. So they've told these lies for years and now they're looking for a way to excuse their own behavior, which a couple of Democrats put their head up and they go, wait a second, I thought Joe was fine. What happened? And they're saying, well, we didn't lie to you. It was her, it was her problem. She was the one who was closest to him and she was the one telling the lies. And now we're ejecting her from political expedience. That's the game that's going on there. But as is probably obvious in the whole country, the chat everywhere else, Joe Biden's mental faculties were on display the whole time. Anytime he stepped in front of a camera, after he finally got out of bed at 11:30 in the morning and before 4:00 clock in the afternoon, you would see the vacant stare coming out of that guy's old skull and think to yourself, there's something going on with that guy's brain. It is not working as intended. This is not good at all. Normal thinking people could identify this issue. And I know that this is a generous thing to say, but there are people who are capable of doing some thinking, at least inside of these left wing networks. They knew Joe Biden wasn't with it. They were lying to the bubble that is their audience. They were lying. And now they're using Karine Jean Pierre as Their human shield. Pretty sick stuff, these people. I mean, there's no honor among thieves, really. And that's what's on display. The other thing here is Kiringe, because she has no defense. There's no truth to defend her. She backs up to the same spot that these lefties always back up to when they're in a corner, which is that if you are critiquing them in any way, you're a bigot. So here's Coringe saying that now Democrats are being racist and sexist for daring to question her. Listen, I'm a black woman. I'm a queer woman. As if that has anything to do with anything. Watch. Kareem, do you have any regrets at all for anything that you said while you were speaking on behalf of this administration? I'm.
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Michael Knowles
Look.
- [56:05]
Vince
It'S a simple yes or no. You don't even know.
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Michael Knowles
No, no, no.
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Karine Jean Pierre
Because you're asking for a yes or no question. I want to put some context to it, too. I woke up every day. I woke up every day very proud to be the White House press secretary. I woke up every day as a. As a black woman who is queer, who had never. No one had ever seen someone like me at that point. Podium, standing behind that lectern. It was an honor and a privilege to have that job, and I did it to the best of my abilities, and I.
- [56:34]
Vince
What the hell is she even talking about? Who cares that you're black? Who cares that you're queer? What does queer even mean exactly? Who cares about any of this? What's your blood type? How much do you weigh?
- [56:46]
Michael Knowles
What?
- [56:46]
Vince
You know what? Like, what are these irrelevant details? Like, if you were in a wheelchair and you were the White House press secretary, and then somebody says, hey, why'd you lie to us so much about Joe Biden? Would the answer be, hey, how dare you? I'm in a wheelchair? What? That's nonsensical. It has nothing to do with anything. What a weird shield. Now, it's funny to watch her wielding it against the left. That man. You questioning me? I'm a black woman. I'm proud to have been the White House press secretary. I'm queer. She left that. She's an immigrant, too. I don't know why she didn't include that. You get multiple intersectional points, you get a high score. She's an immigrant, black, queer woman. Cisgender or whatever. It's also crazy, but that's the way she's talking. What an embarrassment and a reminder that she should have never been White House press secretary to begin with. I'm not even talking about the underlying ideology. The Democrats are completely out of control, but that woman is just incapable of communicating. And how did they do that? Was the thought process that basically they couldn't hire somebody who was more capable than Joe Biden. That would be embarrassing. If the press secretary is better at communicating than the president of the United States, let's hire somebody even dumber. So they hired Karine Jean Pierre. I guess that's what you end up with. So the top three people in that entire administration were incapable of conveying ideas in English. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Karine Jean Pierre. They couldn't plan out an English sentence together. And they were, unfortunately, at the highest positions of power in the United States for four years. We gotta navigate out of this. We really do. So that's the plan. We're gonna keep navigating out of it as always. Appreciate you. You really are the best audience anywhere. Thank you for being with me today. We have another exciting episode of Vince coming up tomorrow. We have a lot to cover. We'll get to it. Hopefully some more arrests are on the way. Always love arrests. Arrest news is always fun, especially when criminals get caught. That's what we want. We'll cover it all on vince. I've got the big national radio show today, the Vince Show. You can check out your local listings. The Vince Show.com and you can watch us live. Rumble.com Vince. Please, like, subscribe, share and tell everybody you know all about our programs. Great to have you with us today.