VINCE Podcast Episode 144: "Big Tish Gets A Taste Of Her Own Medicine"
Host: Vince Coglianese
Date: October 10, 2025
Overview
In this episode, Vince Coglianese dives into the unprecedented indictment of New York Attorney General Letitia "Big Tish" James, exploring the irony as she faces the same legal scrutiny she once directed at Donald Trump. Vince also covers President Trump's Middle East peace breakthrough and delivers a fiery breakdown of the Virginia Governor's debate, where Democrat nominee Abigail Spanberger fumbles in the face of a political scandal involving violent rhetoric.
Table of Contents
- Letitia James' Indictment: Irony Strikes Back
- President Trump’s Peace Deal in the Middle East
- Virginia Governor’s Debate Meltdown
- Notable Quotes & Highlights
- Timestamps: Must-Listen Moments
Letitia James' Indictment: Irony Strikes Back
Background and Allegations
- Vince opens by laying out the full-circle scenario: Letitia James rose to prominence vowing to target Donald Trump for supposed property value fraud; now, she faces a mortgage fraud indictment herself.
- [06:05] Vince details the indictment:
- In August 2020, James bought a property in Norfolk, VA, securing a $109,000 mortgage by attesting it would be a second residence—not an investment.
- Contrary to her claim, she rented it as an investment property, thus securing a lower rate (3% instead of 3.815%), allegedly saving nearly $19,000 over the life of the loan.
- The indictment claims clear misrepresentation: "The relevant facts fit within four little tiny paragraphs... Even I can understand this. Even a simple man like me can understand. What did she do? Was she allowed to do it? No, she wasn’t. Wham, bam, thank you, ma’.” [09:38]
Reactions and Media Spin
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CNN's initial report conveys a sense of disbelief and attempts to blame the Trump DOJ for "weaponization" ([04:33]).
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Vince unpacks the Democratic talking points, specifically noting the sudden departure of a U.S. attorney (Eric Siebert) who had refused to bring charges—framed as evidence of a political hit job by the left. Vince retorts:
“The reality is the Trump Justice Department detected that this guy was trying to run out the clock on James Comey and was not bringing a well predicated prosecution against Letitia James.” [06:01]
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Vince hammers home the straightforward nature of the case, suggesting James has little legal wiggle room.
Letitia James Responds
- In a defiant selfie video, James calls the charges “a continuation of the President’s desperate weaponization of our justice system,” claiming her prosecution is pure political retribution. [15:22]
- Vince mocks her for invoking “no one is above the law,” playing past clips where she used the phrase to target Trump:
“No one is above the law. It doesn’t matter how powerful you are, you will be held accountable. Justice is blind. It’s coming after you. Yeah. How’s it feel, Tish? How does it feel?” [13:00]
Media and Commentators Weigh In
- Left-wing attorney Mark Elias bemoans “the demise of DOJ norms” and claims we’ve entered an era of presidentially-driven political prosecutions. Vince rebuts, noting grand juries have delivered the charges based on real evidence—unlike what happened to Trump. [17:29 – 20:27]
- Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, and other right-of-center voices are quoted gleefully applauding James' legal predicament.
- CNN pundits attempt to rationalize the charges by arguing "everyone in America commits mortgage fraud," which Vince ridicules relentlessly:
“Everybody commits mortgage fraud. Everybody does that. ... When I woke up this morning, first thing I did, I committed mortgage fraud.” [23:29]
President Trump’s Peace Deal in the Middle East
- Vince provides updates on a historic Israeli-Gaza peace agreement brokered by Trump, which includes the release of remaining hostages.
Trump: “We ended the war in Gaza and really on a much bigger basis created peace. And I think it’s going to be a lasting peace, hopefully an everlasting peace, peace in the Middle East.” [33:16]
- Both Israeli and Palestinian sides celebrate; even skeptical U.S. Democrats express (begrudging) approval.
- Vince champions the universality of the praise:
“How can you get the Israelis, the Palestinians, the people in Gaza, all of the Middle Eastern countries, Democrats, Republicans… all reacting with either sort of like begrudging appreciation or outright elation?" [34:16]
Virginia Governor’s Debate Meltdown
Jay Jones’ Violent Texts
- [38:30] Shocking text messages from Democratic Attorney General candidate Jay Jones surface, where he jokes about wanting former GOP House speaker Todd Gilbert to be shot twice and suggests harm to children.
Spanberger Under Fire
- Abigail Spanberger, the Democratic gubernatorial nominee, is repeatedly pressed on whether she will withdraw her endorsement of Jay Jones or demand he drop out. She dodges:
“...It appears that those who released the text messages and held them for years. So the public was unaware who had knowledge... I learned of these text messages the day that they came out and I denounced them as soon as I learned of them.” [41:04]
- Spanberger tries to blame Republicans for holding the messages—a response Vince savagely dissects:
“She’s trying to pass blame for Jay’s well-earned scandal onto Republicans... If only you had told me before. It’s your fault. This scandal belongs to you Republicans. Yeah, that’s not going to fly.” [41:44]
Winsome Sears: The Marine Moment
- Winsome Sears (R), Lieutenant Governor, devastates Spanberger with pointed, unrelenting questions:
“Would it take him pulling the trigger?... Abigail, you have nothing to say? Abigail, what if he said about your two children, your three children, is that when you would say he should get out of the race?...” [43:06]
- Spanberger is visibly paralyzed, providing no answer—a Mitch McConnell-esque “frozen” moment, as Vince calls it.
Reflections on Political Violence
- Vince cites polling showing left-leaning voters’ disturbingly high tolerance for political violence and assassination talk.
- He closes with a rallying cry to Virginia Republicans and centrist Democrats:
“Sometimes it’s just about telling what would be Democrat voters... hey, look how crazy this party is, therefore putting bullets in the heads of their political opponents. Maybe sit this one out.” [47:55]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Letitia James (past remarks used against her) [12:19]:
“No matter how powerful you are... no one is above the law. And it is my duty and job to enforce it.”
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Vince [13:00]:
“No one is above the law. How’s it feel, Tish? How does it feel?”
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Letitia James (response video) [15:22]:
“Continuation of the President’s desperate weaponization of our justice system... These charges are baseless, and the President’s own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution.”
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Mark Elias [17:29]:
“We live in a world in which the President... is able to get anyone in the country who he wants indicted to be investigated by the FBI...”
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Vince [19:00]:
“He is using an inversion of the argument. This is all projection... that people are being attacked because of politics, not because of underlying violations of criminal law.”
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Scott Jennings (CNN) [25:12]:
“Democrats... whine about selective prosecutions over Tish James. Her entire career is built on the selective prosecution of one man.”
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Winsome Sears [43:06]:
“Would it take him pulling the trigger?... Abigail, you have nothing to say? Abigail, what if he said about your two children, your three children, is that when you would say he should get out of the race?”
Timestamps: Must-Listen Moments
- [02:47] Letitia James’ old “no one is above the law” clips
- [04:33] CNN breaks the news of James’ indictment
- [06:05–11:18] Vince breaks down the mortgage fraud case—explains why it’s so open-and-shut
- [12:19] Letitia James' past statements come back to haunt her
- [15:22–16:37] James’ video response and Vince’s biting critique
- [17:29–20:27] Mark Elias claims DOJ weaponization; Vince delivers a reality check
- [23:29] Vince’s satire of CNN’s “everyone commits mortgage fraud” defense
- [25:12] Scott Jennings on “selective prosecution”
- [33:16–34:16] President Trump on the Middle East peace deal
- [38:30] Robot-voiced reading of Jay Jones’ violent texts at Virginia debate
- [41:04–43:58] Abigail Spanberger freezes as Winsome Sears presses her on political violence, delivering a viral moment
- [47:55] Vince: “Maybe sit this one out!”—on demoralizing Democrat turnout
- [49:39–51:04] Robot-voice satire of political cowardice, lampooning Spanberger's answers
Tone & Style
The episode brims with Vince’s signature irreverent, biting wit, political combativeness, and mastery of media spin. He gleefully highlights the poetic irony in Letitia James’ predicament, maximizing the schadenfreude and juxtaposing old clips and statements. The Virginia debate segment mixes ridicule and genuine alarm about the state of political discourse—underscoring the gravity of violent rhetoric in American politics.
Final Thoughts
“Big Tish Gets A Taste Of Her Own Medicine” delivers an energetic, unfiltered dissection of hypocrisy, consequence, and political theater at the top echelons of American politics. Vince Coglianese is at his most caustic—and compelling—reminding listeners that poetic justice, when it comes, is as much about spectacle as it is about substance.