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BREAKING: Bongino Closing In On The J6 Pipebomber & A Secret Epstein Video | Episode 53
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A wild video broke from a violent interaction between two USSS members yesterday as the J6 bombing and White House cocaine are being investigated by the FBI as we speak.
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Vince
Hey there. Welcome to Vince. Great to have you with us. Oh, man, is it Thursday already? It's Thursday already. I was practically up all night. I was at a Metallica concert last night. By the way, if I ran into you at the Metallica concert, it was so awesome to see you. It was really great. I know there's somebody in the chat. I think his name is some version of Van Halen. It was good to see you there, buddy. We had a great time. Holy cow, what a great concert. Okay. But as I was processing all of the news that was occurring both while I was at the concert and this morning, a lot has happened. A lot has happened. James Comey is throwing a full blown shit fit right now about what's going on at the FBI. We'll get into the details of why Comey's doing that, the response from Cash Patel and Dan Bongino that's going on. And also Susan Crabtree, the excellent Real Clear politics reporter is gonna join us today as there's now cat fights going on at the Secret Service. He she's got the exclusive reporting on this subject. We'll find out a little bit more about what's going on in the agency that's supposed to protect the President of the United States. Man, oh man, great to have you with us on a Thursday. You know, this is, for a lot of people, a shortened week. It's been Memorial Day at the top of the week, which is. Which is nice. Great Memorial Day. But remember, Memorial Day is more than just a long weekend. It's a time to remember those who sacrificed for our freedom and to make sure that we're doing our part to protect what they fought for. And for me, that means making sure my family is prepared for whatever comes next. And right now, my Patriot Supply, a company I personally trust, is running that Memorial Day sale. It's their biggest of the season. You can save up to 60% on the my Patriot Supply emergency gear that matters most. Emergency food kits, water filtration, off grid power systems, and so much more. Preparedness is not about panic. It's about peace of mind. It's about knowing that if the shelves go empty or the grid goes down, you're already covered. And this sale makes it more affordable than ever to get there. If you've been thinking about preparing or expanding your supplies, this is the time to do it. But this sale won't stick around. So go to my patriotsupply.com Vince to stock up today. My patriotsupply.com Vince mypatriotsupply.com. vince. Yeah. Holy cow. The boys at Metallica still put on a great concert. It was cool, by the way, to see all the. Every generation of Metallica fan in attendance. This was at what they now call Northwest Stadium in Landover, Maryland. It's where the Washington Redskins play. And it's. It was. It was cool. You get the original people who've been following them since the early 80s all out there. Then you get the kids and the grandkids. Lots of little kids there. It was really. It was just a neat thing. Everybody just going absolutely wild. It was really funny walking into the stadium, though, because they have signs out front that say, no moshing. No moshing. I can't even believe in 2025 I'm seeing signs about mosh pits. But apparently there's still a thing, people slamming into each other. So you get into the stadium and then you're watching. We're sitting in the stands watching this. But on the field, of course, is all the pit action. And everybody's standing there right next to the stage. And of course, people. There's a rock concert, so people don't follow the rules. They're moshing. Everybody's moshing. Not everybody. There was some moshing. What's funny is that the older, though, that they get, the moshing becomes more gentle. Nobody wants to tweak a hip or break an ankle or something. So they're sort of. They're slowly bumping off of each other as they're moshing in the middle of these rock songs. Honestly, really, really funny to watch. My kid loved it. Her best friend came. She loved it. Everybody was jamming out. And of course, just like all these concerts, they always saved the big hits for the end. Master of Puppets and Enter Sandman to close out the show. The only thing I regret about that, and I think this is, as I get older, this is what I want. I just want them to play their hits a little earlier in the program so that the hardcore people can stay all the way to the end and I can make my way to the parking lot to get into my car and get out. I can just. I'll listen to the rest of the songs, you know, on Spotify or something. But no, it's. It's really cool. So anyway, thank. Thanks to Metallica for throwing a great concert, and thanks to everybody I ran into last night. Just great, Great audience. The best damn audience in media. Really, really is. Okay, let me get into what's going on with the FBI. Here we've got James Comey doing a doing A some sort of stupid tour to sell his ridiculous fiction book. But in the process, he keeps issuing these calls to action where he's pretending like he's just assessing what's going on in the FBI, but he's clearly sending a message to his forces that are still within the FBI, who he calls the career officials, that they need to undermine the Trump administration, they need to undermine you, the person who voted for President Trump, and they need to undermine the agenda that you voted for. Take a look. Here's James Comey. This is on cnn. Cut to attacking first and foremost, Dan Bongino. FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino on his priorities. He tweeted out this week that he wants to make sure that we get to the bottom of public corruption cases involving the January 6th pipe bomber, involving the cocaine that was found at the White House and involving the leak of the Dobbs decision. All of these intense American interests. Comey acts like they're meaningless and that Dan Bongino is playing to a very particular audience. Take a look. Something supported by a lot of conservatives out there. What do you make of this?
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Dan Bongino
It's a little confusing to me, honestly. I'm sure it's a huge adjustment to go from being a podcaster to being the deputy director of the FBI. But I don't understand this tweet. First of all, I assume that the investigation of the pipe bomb that was found on January 6 was never closed. The FBI never closes such a thing, so I guess it means they're going to focus on it more. And as to the other things, I thought the Supreme Court Marshall had investigated the leak of the opinion, the draft opinion. I don't know what the FBI's role is there cocaine at the White House? I thought the Secret Service investigated that. So I don't follow it and understand it. I also don't understand who the audience is for this tweet. The FBI often calls for public assistance or in matters of great public concern, will announce an investigation to reassure the public. This seems much more narrowly targeted. Maybe to a former podcast audience.
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Vince
Maybe to a former podcast audience. Now, who could he be talking about here? Who is he attempting to slander? Who are the insane people who'd be interested in getting to the bottom of this? Now, of course he's talking about you. James Comey is now not satisfied with merely writing 8647 on the beach and attacking President Trump, saying he's to be unseated. He's now set his sights on you people who think that Dan Bongino is a guy that's worth listening to and are grateful that he's in the administration now working on the agenda of the American people. James Comey is attacking you, and he's saying that it's only crazy people. It's only crazy people who would dare be interested in getting to the bottom of the January 6th pipe bomber or the leak of the Dobbs decision or the cocaine in the White House. Why would the FBI be wasting their resources on this? Comey asks. The answer to that question is because it's of intense American interest to get to the bottom of that. The January 6th pipe bomber case is not merely about a threat to the RNC and the dnc, but instead, more sincerely, it's about the corruption of our government. Why the most theatrical portion of the events of January 6th just disappeared from public consciousness. Why is that? And what role did the government play in that? I've got more news on that coming up, specifically from Dan Bongino. I'm gonna share that with you. But there's Comey lashing out, lashing out. And you know why he's lashing out? He's lashing out because these guys, Cash and Dan, are over the target right now, and James Comey doesn't know how to handle it. So he goes onto a program that, by the way, has lower ratings than any iteration of Dan Bongino's podcast. So I love the whole little pejorative shot that Comey is taking. Oh, I don't know, some former podcaster. As if. As if Dan didn't have a meaningful career in law enforcement prior to his career in media. And the attacks he's making on Cash, as well as if Cash wasn't serving at some of the highest levels of the government, wasn't doing the kinds of investigations that gave him expertise into the job that he is now in. Comey is a ludicrous figure and he's emotionally incontinent. Here's more from that James Comey thing with Wolf Blitzer. Take a look. Here's cut three. Comey attacking both Dan and Kashang. They're unqualified for the job.
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Dan Bongino
And so I hope the career people are able to support the director and the deputy director. There are lots of people in the FBI who know what they're doing. I hope these two guys are letting them guide them.
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Vince
You think they know what they're doing?
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Dan Bongino
The career people know what they're doing?
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Vince
No, no, no.
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Cash Patel
The career people know what they're doing.
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Vince
But the new director and the deputy.
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Dan Bongino
Director, nothing in their life or their career. Gives me confidence that they know anything about leading an organization like that. And so I would have serious doubts. I bet they do internally, about whether they have doubts. Great. Let the people know what they're doing. Give you advice and listen to them.
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Vince
Okay. All right, so this guy is a preposterous figure for a bunch of reasons. Look, Kash Patel was the chief of staff to the Secretary of Defense. He worked at some of the highest levels of one of the biggest agencies in the entire federal government. He's familiar with that. He worked on. He was the lead investigator working with Devin Nunes into the Russian collusion hoax. Now, I don't need to give you his full bio. I don't need to fully defend him. He can defend himself. But this idea that, oh, he's completely out of his depth, he's never served in a leadership position. He's never. He doesn't know what he's doing inside of this agency. It's poppycock. It's garbage from James Comey. This is bitterness on Comey's part that these guys are ripping apart the destructive structure that Comey has built inside of that Hoover building. That's. This is Comey spazzing out over Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. And so. So that's what you're seeing there. Now, Cash has an opportunity. He has responded to this. Cash talked to Brett Baier yesterday. It aired on the Fox News Channel yesterday. And he talked about the fiasco that Comey has created at the FBI and in the country. Take a look here. Cut 8. Cash Patel, Depp, the current director of the FBI, talking about the past director, James Comey. That's James Comey.
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James Comey
If he wants to come after me, no problem. I've been living rent free in that guy's head for years. And that's just a bonus. Do you know how many copycats we've had to investigate as a result of that beachside venture from the former director?
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Cash Patel
Is that right?
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James Comey
Do you know how many agents I've had to take offline from chasing down child sex predators, fentanyl traffickers, terrorists? Because everywhere across this country, people are popping up on social media and think that a threat to the life of the President of the United States is a joke and they can do it because he did it.
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Vince
So Cash is explaining with some sadness that right now the FBI has to take people off of very important cases to put them on an urgent case, which are the never end ending threats that James Comey has induced in the United States. And Comey with his. His oh, shucks attitude. Oh, I didn't know it was my wife. We were walking on the beach and she was talking about. This is interesting. You should take a picture of it. You should post it to your Instagram. James Comey has spurred a cascade of threats against the President of the United States, a guy who's been nearly assassinated on multiple occasions.
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Susan Crabtree
And.
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Vince
And those assassins induced by quoting people like James Comey on the American left who say things like President Trump as a threat to democracy. Democracy is on the ballot. We need to stop him. James Comey writing in Seashells 8647 and posting to his social media account has led to chaos in the United States that the FBI is now responding to. That's what's happening. And listen to what Cash says. He says this is a reallocation of resources. We could be going after terrorists, we could be going after child predators. We could be going after all these other things. And now we've got to reassign these agents and analysts to go after threats to the President of the United States because of Comey. Remember what the FBI did under people like James Comey and Christopher Wray. They would take agents off of important cases and put them on political operations to attack Republicans, conservatives. So under Christopher Ray, under the last FBI director, as the biggest FBI investigation in American history gets launched into January 6, people. They were taking agents off of terror cases. They were taking agents off of child predation cases. Whistleblower Steve Friend revealed that that that happened to him. He was taken off of child predation cases and instead assigned to go after American citizens who were exercising constitutional rights, including parents who were going to school board meetings. And they would have FBI agents sit outside in the parking lot and write down the license plate numbers of the vehicles who would go to the school board meetings. The FBI was allocating attention and focus on treating Christians as if they are radicals, Catholics as if they are radicals for going to traditional Latin masses. That is what the FBI did under people like James Comey and Christopher Wray in a politicized Federal Bureau of Investigation. And why James Comey absolutely deserved to be fired from the get go. You should not have made it as far as he did into the Trump administration in the first place. So, yeah, you want to talk about allocating resources and who's actually spending it on stuff that's worth it. Cash and Dan. Not James Comey. Not James Comey. James Comey is creating trouble now, a lot of it. Cash is not the only person to talk about What James Comey has done here, the craziness that he's created. Dan Bongino, let me go to cut 12. Now, Dan Bongino explained this morning on Fox in an appearance on Fox and Friends. I'll talk all about the appearance and what I think of it, why it matters. But he talks about Comey and the threats he's created and how much of a child this oversized goon is. Take a look.
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Cash Patel
I gotta tell you, of all the things that have surprised me in the close to now three months I've been here, is the depravity of Jim Comey. This man is a disgrace to the badge, the FBI and the country. What he's doing right now, implying a threat towards the president, blaming your wife about it. And let me just add about James Comey, you know, Saint Comey, who walks around demoralizing to everyone, how wonderful of a human being he is. What you said is absolutely accurate. We have wasted countless man hours now running out tips to our tip line about people putting 8647 because of Jim Comey, because he cannot control himself and his emotions. He is a child. He is a big child. And let me tell you one more thing. Jim Comey, who wants you to. Jim Comey taking a shot at the President. Oh, look at me. I'm such a victim. The president's going after me. He's making a ton of money on this book. The only person that got prosecuted was the president. Jim Comey. We're finding stuff even now.
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Vince
We're finding stuff even now. I'll get to that in just a moment. The stuff that they've been finding. But so here you have both cash and Dan going. Comey is creating all sorts of problems. He created problems when he was in the agency and now he's outside the agency creating problems, creating threats to the President of the United States. And as you heard James Comey say a moment ago, he's obviously trying to motivate the so called career officials within the FBI to undermine the agenda of the United States. Comey is playing with fire here. He is playing with fire. Now, elsewhere in that interview, Bongino addressed a question. Dan addressed the obvious question that comes to my mind. That comes to your mind, well, why can't. What can we charge Comey with? Can Comey be charged with something? Can we get this menace off the streets? And he addresses the 8647 thing and he says, look, here's the deal. We have to bring cases that we know are gonna withstand at both the Prosecution and a judge. If there's any wiggle room for interpretation where the guy can escape it, like saying, oh, 8647, oh, shucks. I didn't know it meant you got to assassinate Trump. I didn't know that's what it was implying. Dan said outright. This has to be able to withstand scrutiny by a magistrate and not just get thrown out. So we're bringing, we're gonna bring cases that we can actually get victories on. That's what he's saying this morning. So that's a, that's an important piece of this. Now let me go back to Cash Patel for a moment and should I, should I go back to Cash? I'll wait on Cash for a minute. Let's see. Hey, let's go to Cash. We'll go to Cash. We got cut nine here. Cash Patel last night on Fox talking about the Epstein death. Remember the Epstein death and the Epstein files. This has been a lot of. We've all been scrutinizing this. What's going on here? Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. This is what you're telling us now. So what happened? What led you to that conclusion? You know, Dan is a big receipts guy. I'll get to that in a moment. He wants, you know, and so am I. I want to see the evidence to support that. We've got some more coming on that first. Here's Cash Patel on Jeffrey Epstein. Cut nine. Take a look.
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Cash Patel
There are the Epstein thing you dealt with, Maria, you said as far as you know he killed himself.
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James Comey
I'm telling you he killed himself.
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Vince
The other thing on the Internet is the Epstein files.
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Cash Patel
What's the answer to that?
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James Comey
The answer to that is the same as everything else. I'm not going to withhold information from the American public ever. But I'm also not going to rush to get it out there in a format in which they can't rely on it. So on the Epstein matter or any other matters, we are diligently working on that. And it takes time to go through years of investigations, years of political maneuvering and years of COVID up to get the American people what they deserve. And that's what I'm gonna give them.
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Vince
Years of COVID up. That's an interesting final piece of that sentence. Years of COVID up to get the American people what they deserve. Okay, so that's fascinating. And what that tells us is that they are gonna be releasing more information about Epstein. In fact, Dan added some, some color inside of those lines. This morning, Dan Bongino revealed that there is video footage from Jeffrey Epstein's wing of the jail. Take a Look. Here's cut 15, Dan this morning. This video he just revealed this morning is imminently going to be released now for the consumption of the American people. Take a look.
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Cash Patel
I am not asking anyone to believe me. I'm telling you what's there and what isn't.
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Vince
Right?
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Cash Patel
There is nothing in the file at this point on the Epstein case. And there is going to be a disclosure on this coming shortly. We are working through some. There is video that is something the public. There's a video of him killing him. No, no, not, not the actual act, but the entire MCC bay, it was only one camera. There were other. There's video that when you look at the video and we will release. That's what's taken a while on this. We are working on cleaning it up to make sure you have an enhanced and we're going to give the original. So you don't think there were any shenanigans. You're going to see there is no one there but him, right? There's just nobody there. So I say to people, if you have a tip, let us know. But there's no DNA, there's no audio, there's no fingerprints, there's no suspects, there's no accomplices, there's no tips. There is nothing. If you have it, I'm happy to see it. There's video clear as day. He's the only person in there and the only person coming out. You can see it.
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James Comey
So.
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Vince
Okay, well, that's fascinating. Remember, the thing we know about the video cameras is at least the cameras that were closest to the cell inoperable. For some reason, not working. The guards didn't take their rounds that night. They falsified the records about their rounds. In other words, there's a lot of deceit going on and a lot of suspicious coincidences all happening at the same time as Jeffrey Epstein dies apparently in that jail cell. And so Dan's addition to this story today is that there is a camera that shows some, what sounds like a bottleneck, a single point of access to that wing, demonstrating that it was only Epstein who entered and exited that wing. So we will apparently at some point in the near term see that, That's a brand new piece of information from Dan which conveys, by the way, his sincerity about tackling this issue. It's not merely, oh, I looked at the file, there's he killed himself. There's nothing else to see here. Let's move on to other issues. He is being very respectful of the fact that the American people want real receipts and real answers here. So a video to come on that apparently. Now that doesn't rule out a lot of things. One, pay attention to Dan's language. Here is the same thing he said last time he was asked about this in his joint interview with Cash with Maria Bartiromo. He said, according to the file, in other words, the official record keeping on the subject at the FBI indicates that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. That's according to what Dan has access to now. That of course means are there things he doesn't have access to, things he doesn't know yet, as he's asking for more people to come forward? Is that him indicating that he remains concerned that we're not being told the full story? Certainly sounds like that to me. But he is indicating once again that he's just relying on this is what's inside of the files at the FBI. The other piece that's worth remembering here is to what extent, if we've got a bad actor at play, to what extent was Epstein allowed to kill himself? Let's say that that actually was accomplished. And by the way, one of the forensic examiners here, Dr. Michael Baden, he looked at this and he goes, I just don't see it. I don't see how he could do it. Given the nature of the fractures in his neck. Those are. He's in all of his years and he's been doing this for a long time, he's never seen a suicidal hanging that resulted in three fractures like that. Instead, that would only be typically the result of an actual murder. Someone else, a homicide would have to do that according to his assessment. But let's say this is the one occasion in his entire career that he encounters it, that it's a suicide, to what extent was Epstein given the space? If they know he's suicidal, are they giving him the space and the implements to do this himself? This all matters, especially in an environment where the guards falsified the records. Yeah, that's right away you've got an act of, you've got an act of deceit going on on the part of the guards. And if the innocent explanation, to the extent that can be innocent is, oh, we just, we fell asleep and we didn't want anybody to know, okay, but it's not good enough for me. One of the, my most high profile cases ever, ever, we need some answers on this. And so there you go, Dan Bongino saying we're going to get a couple more in the form of this video, video evidence Coming out. Okay. In a moment, more from Dan. Dan has revealed a lot. Cash Patel is revealing a lot. And Susan Crabtree is ahead. We're going to talk to her you about what's going on at the Secret Service and whether or not the reforms that President Trump is calling for are actually getting done. Susan's got details on that straight ahead. Before I get into all of that, though, I got to thank our sponsors. 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James Comey
But more importantly, people have had questions about January 6 and whether or not there were FBI sources, not agent sources, on the ground during January six. And I told you I would get you the definitive answer to that. And we have. And we are in the process again of working with our partners to divulge that information. And it is coming. And I will tell you this. The answer to that question will surprise and shock people because of what past FBI leaders have said about it.
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Cash Patel
Former FBI Director Chris Wray eventually admitted to Congress There were 26 FBI confidential human sources in around the Capitol January 6, but not actual agents. Can you say that's true? Are there more than that?
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Vince
What you're learning from that?
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James Comey
I can say that that is definitely a piece of the truth. Why it took a ton of time for and questioning in Congress for the director to get that point is what I'm trying to eliminate from. From the FBI.
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Vince
They were concealing that for a long time. They were trying to hide that detail. And so Cash Patel there, this is, what you're listening to is a steady drumbeat of transparency initiatives going on at the FBI. These guys are not paying lip service to this topic. They're hearing you, they're hearing me, they're hearing all of us. And they're saying, okay, we're trying to get this information out to you. We care about it. In fact, few people know more about it than Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. So they're plugging away. And for that, I'm grateful about all of that. The events of January 6th. Now on that January 6th stuff, also, the night of January 5th matters a great deal. The pipe bomb investigation. The pipe bomb investigation. What the heck happened with that story? That matters a lot. And Dan Bongino has made it his mission. It is crystal clear that it has been his mission. It was his mission before he got there as deputy director of the FBI to get to the bottom of that. Now he's in a position to do something about it. Ed Martin, the former U.S. attorney, the head of the weaponization task force now has been working with Dan. He told us that he came, he told you, he told this audience about that. I've been working with Dan on getting to the bottom of the pipe bomb case. And Dan gave an update this morning on that subject. And he said, actually we've had some late breaking developments. Cut 14, Dan Bongino and what they're learning now.
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Cash Patel
You know, we had two pipe bombs planted on January 6th. I mean, we were told by partisan actors out there this was the insurrection. The world was going to fall apart. And no one seemed to show any interest in this case. The second we got in, I put a team on it and I said, I want answers on this. And I'm pretty confident that we're, we're closing in on some suspects. We got to the reason, by the way, I use social media with these cases. I'm trying to communicate on social media is nothing's by accident, guys. I do nothing by accident. Every time I put a tweet out, we get tips. We got a fascinating tip on one of these cases, one of the three. I want to say which one, But I'm pretty confident that we're going to close out one of them, hopefully shortly. And then the cocaine in the White House, you know, I saw someone on social media, which is fine. Everybody's entitled to an opinion. We work for you. But said, I don't care about the case. Yeah, I do. I was a Secret Service agent. A potentially hazardous material made its way into the White House. Nobody seems to know how it got there, and nobody seemed to get to investigate, investigate it fully. Like, you know, what planet do we live on where that's not of public interest?
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Vince
Yeah. All right, so here you have Dan announcing this morning that they are now closing in, he says, on suspects in the January 6th pipe bomb saga, which is a brand new piece of information. So there's, there's that from Dan and then finally from Dan this morning. And then I'll just give you my quick, quick assessment of what I think of all these interviews, because I think they have a great deal of meaning and I want them to do more of these. Here is Dan talking about the Comey era at the FBI. Here's cut 13 where Dan says that we're now finding information that was intentionally hidden from us that was bunked away in an effort to prevent us from seeing it. But we've found it. Take a look.
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Cash Patel
Wait till you read the stuff that's coming out.
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Vince
But does he still have a loyalist in the building? Because when I hear the FBI director saying, you guys are finding boxes that are hidden.
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Cash Patel
Okay, how does that happen in the Bureau? Well, we were there a couple of weeks and luckily there were a lot of people up there who grabbed us by the arm the minute we came in and said, thank you for being here. You know, we need to talk. There are people there who are really horrified at what happened. And there was a room, and we found stuff, a lot of stuff, a hidden room. I wouldn't call it hidden, but hidden from us at least and not mentioned to us. And then we found stuff in there, and a lot of it's from the Comey era. And we are working our damnedest right now to declassify, just so you know, because I get the public. I totally understand people saying, well, do it now. The process is not all the information is ours to declassify some as other intelligence agencies. It's not. We literally can't do it.
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Vince
It.
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Cash Patel
Once that gets done and that gets out there and you read some of the stuff we found that, by the way, was not processed through the normal procedure. Digitizing it, putting in FBI records. We found it in bags hiding under Jim Comey. You're going to be shells.
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Vince
You're going to be stunned by what we found. We're in the process of declassifying it for release to the American people. Is Dan lying to you? Is Dan telling a lie here chat or is he telling the truth? The answer is abundantly clear to me. Of course he's telling the truth. And he's soldiering away at getting the answers out. He's soldiering away. So there you go. A good update from Dan Bongino. Lastly, on this subject, before we get to our guests, I just want to say I saw Dan post the other day. Yeah, the chat is. Is all in on. On Dan telling the truth here. Rightfully so. I saw Dan post the other day. That they've limited the number of media interviews they've been doing. Cash and Dan have up until now because they wanted to keep the focus on the work, he said. My outside advice is do more of these interviews. I realize you're limited in what you can say, and so a lot of what we're left to do is kind of try and read between the lines and try and suss out a little bit more about what might be going on behind the scenes that we don't yet know. But I think it's totally worthwhile for these guys to have a lot of conversations with the public. This is an agency that's desperately, desperately in need of a credibility restoration. And the only way to restore the credibility is maximum transparency, maximum conversation, and maximum communication with the American people. So just maximize that as much as possible, fellas. This is really worthwhile. Now, one last just editorial note for the show because I've been asked a million times, people, well, you should interview Dan. Have Dan on the. I would love to. Here's what I'm running into. And I'll just be this. Speaking of maximum transparency, this is the issue here, Silverlock. This is a Paulo Bongino operation. What we do with the podcast, I'm not gonna put Dan on the show because whatever we do on this program would be to the financial benefit ultimately of Paula Bongino. So I'm not gonna do that with this program for that reason. I haven't even, by the way, I've never even talked about this with these guys. I'm just saying, straight up, I'm not creating unnecessary conflicts of interest for them. That's not gon happen. Now, that does not preclude me from talking to Cash. I want Cash Patel. I've been, believe me, I've been working to try and get the FBI director on. I think it'd be great to have him come by and answer our questions, but that's where I am. The other piece is that doesn't preclude me from talking to Dan on radio either. I could talk to Dan on the big radio show 12 to 3 nationwide eastern time. So we've got some options here. But just to give you a sense of what's going on, my goal, and I know Dan's goal for sure, is maximum transparency, maximum credibility, maximum, maximum integrity. And that's always the way we're going to do this. Always. So more interviews. I'd love to see him do more. And I'll take whatever interviews I can get in whatever form I can get it for sure. And you guys are the. You guys are the best. Some good information coming out. All right, hold on. In just a moment, we've got Susan Crabtree stopping in. We're going to talk to her about everything that's going on, including, especially with the Secret Service. Before we get there, I want to thank this sponsor who just makes this program so much better by being A part of it that's jacked up fitness. You know, more and more Americans have been prioritizing their wellness and getting back in shape. Studies prove that strength training does more to help burn fat than cardio alone. And this is why I'm so pleased to be working with Don and the team at Jacked Up Fitness. You see, they're all in one home gyms. They're already best in class already. And their all new X series elevates home fitness to a whole new level. The Power Rack Pro X functional trainer lets you do hundreds of exercises, basically everything you used to do at the gym, all from the comfort of your own spare room or garage. This absolutely stunning machine features a completely upgraded cable crossover system with articulating pulley arms and gives you unlimited width combinations to hit every single muscle group. And if you're new to strength training, they offer a free Get Jacked up program that has full body video workouts. Simply press play and follow along. No more excuses. I'm getting fit. You should too. Let's do this together. Go to getjacked up.com getjacked up.com you sign up for their free training program there. And whether when you're ready to purchase your own Power Rack Pro X, you can use my promo code, Vince, to save 10%. That's getjacked up.com promo code Vince. All right, joining us right now from Real Clear Politics, fantastic reporter Susan Crabtree is on the show. Susan, good to have you with us today.
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Susan Crabtree
Well, thanks so much for having me, Vince. I just want to say you're doing a fantastic job. It's so great to see good people in Washington getting ahead and doing well. And you've always asked the best questions of me, especially with regard to the Secret Service. So it's a pleasure to be on with you today.
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Vince
Well, it's always so nice to talk to you and you make it so easy because you're a good reporter and you always have something new and interesting to share. I guess I should ask because I know you know Dan Bongino too, and you were able to listen to some of what we were just talking about. What do you think of these guys, Cash and Dan being in this, this role at the FBI right now? And what do you see view as how challenging the task is that's ahead of them?
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Susan Crabtree
Well, they have to be, you know, sort of drinking from a fire hose at the same time trying to provide more transparency, do far more than any administration as has provided in terms of transparency. FBI is always just like the Secret Service hidden behind this veil of secrecy, and we don't disclose. So I think they're trying to do both, and I think it's excellent. I do think he's going to get to the bottom of some of these cases, and it's past time to restore integrity to the FBI. I really think that the FBI is part of the problem with this cocaine gate that I've written about before. And Dan has reported on the podcast several months ago. We have some of the same reporting on this. So I, I truly believe he's going to get to the bottom of that story, and I just, I hope to be able to further that along in the next 24 hours or 48 hours.
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Vince
Oh, really? So you think you'll have new developments in the next 24 hours, potentially, or 48?
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Susan Crabtree
Yeah, I do. I have the FOIA documents from the Secret Service on this cocaine issue. And one of the key things that I think is critical here is that the place where the, where they found this has changed. According to these documents, there was a Protective Intelligence Division document within this cache that I have that says it was found. The cocaine was found on the lobby floor. There was a redacted section before the lobby fort. It was a very small redaction. And then it switched completely. And they have pictures of it in a be in these cubbies in the west vestibule entrance. And I think that is ridiculous. That's. That's just completely. How can it be both the floor and inside a cubby? I think they did that to open it up to more trafficking. That was a heavy, more heavily trafficked area in the cubby.
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Vince
You know, that's. First of all, there's a lot going on there. One, if you're moving the position of it and then taking photos of it, you're manipulating the evidence. You're destroying a crime scene. Actually, the other thing is, if you put it in the cubbies, for people who don't visit the West Wing or haven't done that, when you go in, they have little lockers that you can lock your cell phone in your personal belongings, because for most of the time, they just really don't want you to have your cell phone in all these various places in the West Wing so you can lock your phone up. And what that suggests to me, if somebody moved it from the floor to a cubby, what they're trying to convey is that it was an outsider, that somebody who was visiting the White House brought it with them. Nobody in the administration, no family members of the Biden family No, no, no. This was an outsider who was visiting the White House. So, so what you're telling us is that we were lied to about the location of the cocaine.
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Susan Crabtree
Well, it's completely disconnected. You have two documents saying two different things in their public statements. Don't adhere, don't comport with the Protective intelligence document saying it was found on the lobby floor. Now, I have people familiar with the situation trying to explain things to me inside, with, from within, sign the Secret Service. But one of the main things I think it's critical and I'm emphasizing this for a very good reason and I hope to be able to provide some clarity on this is they are saying in their public statements all along that there was no camera surveillance, there was no camera footage. So you mean to tell me there was no camera footage outside of that vestibule to watch people coming in and out? Well, then that's a security problem in and of itself. I doubt that's true. I seriously doubt that there was no camera footage of, of either the vestibule where they said the cocaine was found and, or the lobby floor where the Protective Intelligence Division, who was one of the first people on the scene along with the D.C. fire department, they said it was found on the lobby floor. And the reporters at that time said, including myself, said that that lobby floor was in the East Wing, you know, that main lobby when you go into the front door of the White House. So it is a discrepancy. Also, I have previous reporting saying that Kimberly Cheadle wanted to destroy the cocaine evidence. And there was pushback from both the Uniform Division chief at the time, the acting chief, Richard McCauley, and the forensic division chief, who was Glenn Dennis. And, but yet they did. There are documents saying that that cocaine was destroyed on the, around July 13th. There was just an 11 day, 10 day, 11 day investigation total.
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Vince
Okay, two quick questions. So just clarify for me. Which lobby floor was the cocaine found on? East Wing or West Wing?
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Susan Crabtree
We don't, we don't know. But the Protective Intelligence Division said lobby floor and the document has a little tiny redaction in front of it. So in the foia, in the documents that I got from the Freedom of Information act, actually it was Judicial Watch who did the Freedom of Information act and followed up on it and pressed the Secret Service. They didn't want to provide these documents to get, get a hold of them.
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Vince
So, and, and that cocaine was destroyed. They destroyed the, they got rid of the evidence. They quickly closed the investigation, destroyed the evidence and said, we'll just Never know how it got there. Which is the most absurd investigation I've ever heard of. And you said it was Kim Cheadle, the former fb, the former Secret Service director who was pushing to have it destroyed. Remind me who recommended Kim Cheadle for the job of Secret Service director.
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Susan Crabtree
Yeah, that's a very good point, Vince. It was, she was handpicked by Jill Biden who got to know her when she was on the detail, the Vice President's detail. And she, Jill Biden was instrumental in getting her a job at PepsiCo too. In between serving for Secret Service and becoming the director being brought in by, when Biden became president to be the director. So she owes a lot to Jill Biden, the Biden family. So that is a conflict of interest and that is a deep conflict of interest there. And we know now what Joe Biden is capable of in terms of protecting and covering up the cognitive problems with, with her husband. So it's, it raises a lot of questions in my mind.
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Vince
Yes.
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Susan Crabtree
And there is, I just seriously doubt that there is no surveillance footage of where this was found that I want to stress completely because I believe that it exists. So if it exists, why are they telling time and time again on public statements that there was no camera surveillance? I don't think that makes sense. And if there was no camera surveillance, that is a security problem in and of itself. So Kimberly Cheadle, there was this conflict that Kimberly Cheadle wanted this, the cocaine disposed of, destroyed. And we do see from the documents that it looks like it was destroyed in around July 13th. But I, my question is, supposedly the forensic division chief and the uniform division chief were pushing back on that, saying we have to hold this. There's a rule inside the Secret Service for five to seven years now I'm being told by other sources, oh well, narcotics, we dispose of them. But what about the baggie that contains the narcotics? Does that include it in that narcotics disposal? Because there are also tubes in an envelope, a separate piece of evidence that has been preserved. Those tubes carry DNA, the DNA that supposedly the FBI found on the baggie. So they are saying at the time, back when they issued public statements and closed the investigation very quickly, within 10, 11 days, that there was insufficient DNA to get a match to run it by their criminal database at the FBI or the Secret Service. I am highly suspect of that statement. The FBI at the time, you know, was corrupted. We can we trust that the FBI wasn't involved in the COVID up and couldn't find the DNA. That's a Open question in my mind.
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Vince
Yes.
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Susan Crabtree
And, and Dan Bangino can go back and look at that and go interview the people that made that statement. I'm told there's a document out there saying there was insufficient FBI, and that's what the Secret Service used to make that determination. I'm also told that there was a partial DNA hit on this baggie, but they decided that they didn't want to run it against the people that they had the partial DNA hit. And that's, that's a forensic term that can mean a number of different things, but it can mean that they did find a blood relative, that when they ran it against a criminal database that contains DNA samples from different criminals, different criminal acts. So we know we didn't find any fingerprints. But Dan, because of that key part, and I asked, why Secret Service, why you have the capability to test for DNA and fingerprints? Why did you hand it over the FBI, from what I'm hearing from sources familiar with the investigation, they say that's because they wanted integrity. So they handed over the ability to find the DNA and the fingerprints to the FBI. Well, we all know that the FBI was severely politicized at the time.
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Vince
Yeah. So, you know, you know, what you, what you just described about Kim Cheadle being Jill Biden's handpicked person. I should also remind people Dr. Kevin O' Connor is a close family friend to the White House physician who now stands very credibly accused of covering up the cognitive decline of Joe Biden during his presidency. So this is an ongoing theme with the Bidens. They control some of the most powerful people around them. And then it just so happens that all of the most meaningful investigations and questions never get answered. So that's been an unfortunate trend. I wanna talk to you about what's going on at the Secret Service. Now you've got some brand new information out. Great exclusive reporting on some of the Secret Service agents who are tasked with protecting Barack Obama getting into a physical altercation outside of his D.C. residence. Let me first play the phone call that you shared earlier this week. This is a radio callback from Secret Service agent back to her supervisor calling for. Well, just take a listen immediately before I look at a girl name, before I whoop this girl's ass. That's one uniformed Secret Service agent talking about another. And then here's the video footage that you've shared this week, Susan Crabtree, of these women fighting outside of a police cruiser, shoving one another. It looks like there may be a third person involved here.
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Susan Crabtree
What are we looking At, Yeah, we're looking at this. The senior A officer, uniformed division officer attacking, physically attacking the woman officer who came, that was more junior, came to relieve her because she was, I'm told by sources familiar with it that she was late to. To provide a push, what they call a push, meaning some relief to her either for a break or for complete transition of shifts. So. And also I'm told that she. That this, the senior agent officer was upset that the junior one brought a Dodge Durango. Didn't bring the Dodge Durango, but brought a Ford Explorer. I mean, this is what is triggering the senior uniformed division officer. In a patrol that patrols the perimeter. The agents still protect Barack Obama, but this was in a patrol car outside, at one of the checkpoints outside of the residence. This is what took place. And it didn't take much to trigger this officer. So it has all kinds of implications. And it's raising new questions about whether the DEI policies of Kim Chilo was very aggressive and under Barack Obama, both of those administrations, whether they're lingering at the Secret Service, whether Director Shankaran is cleaning them up. And we need to hear about that. What's going on? These officers have been suspended.
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Vince
Well, these officers are demonstrating, obviously, a lack of professionalism and discipline. And so that suggests to the outside viewer that they were hired for some other reason. You can't help but notice that they're women and that they're minorities. And so the question becomes, were they hired on that basis rather than their ability to protect someone like a Secret Service protectee in the case of President Obama?
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Susan Crabtree
That's exactly right. And there is, you should know there has been a lot of turmoil, questions, discussions in the Secret Service community about whether DEI played a role in the assassination attempt itself. There was an agent who's still on the job named Rashid Ellis who came forward a few months ago online and said, I reported on it at the time. I believe that DEI contributed directly to the assassination attempts and that he was personally passed over for promotion. And he believed that quotas had a lot to do with that. And that promotion had to do with the drone division. He wanted to be in the drone division, which they were looking for people at the time to do, but they said, no, you can't do that. And then they passed him over for a promotion and a woman received that promotion. He said the quotas had something to do with that. Now, that was a big admission, but there's also a DEI lawsuit that a number of agents are joining and should be hitting anytime soon in the next couple of weeks. So I'm expecting that. My sources are telling me that and I have reported on that lawsuit as well.
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Vince
What, I'm sorry, what is the substance of the lawsuit?
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Susan Crabtree
That the DEI policies, policies are hurting the Secret Service and actually hurt individual agents from getting their merit. Merit based promotions.
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Vince
I see. They were passed over because of considerations that had nothing to do with being a good Secret Service agent. I got it. Yeah. That is remarkable. So Sean Koran is the new Secret Service director. He was the head of President Trump's protective detail. He's seen famously in that photo standing over the President wearing his sunglasses as the president just emerged from being shot on July 13th of last year. The president in his loyalty to him made him the head of the Secret Service, thinks he's the right guy for the job. But is he, according to your reporting, executing on the President's vision? Is he cleaning up the Secret Service? Because this video that you're sharing with us is troubling.
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Susan Crabtree
Yes, I think he is acted swiftly in this case. He put one of the persons on a do not admit. That means she can't even that everybody's on high alert if she shows up at any Secret Service office, that she's not allowed to come in. The non aggressor, the one that was responding to the physical attack was also suspended. But she's not on that do not admit. So not as extreme. But I know for a fact that Chunkaran has not given an all hands address to the Secret Service announcing reforms, giving a pep talk. Now Ron Roe, the acting director was appointed after Cheadle was basically pushed out after terrible testimony before Congress and after the assassination attempt in Butler. I do know that he's, he did, Ron Roe gave several pep talks. It was a good effort. But Sean Curran, that there's, there's, there's concern within the Secret Service that maybe he is making the reforms that are needed but there's no communication about them. He's been focused on retention and he's been putting out a lot of videos that costs millions of dollars. One for the super bowl that was produced by a Hollywood, big Hollywood producer. But so they're having a severe retention and hiring problem, manpower shortage at the Secret Service. So he, he has obviously been focused on that. We know that from these videos. But there's, there was severe problems at the Secret Service well before the assassination attempts. That just was sort of the, the mic they provided just sort of a glimpse of what was really going on. The Secret Service, there were three female officers that were in agents that were in charge of that site protection that day. And they're the ones that screwed up. Not having that line of sight, not having anybody on that AGR building. And they are, Blake, trading blame. And I'm hearing that there is going to be some discipline for some of those agents involved. Not all of those agents, which is concerning to me, but there even before, just two months before, there was a woman attached to Kamala Harris's detail who had a mental breakdown at Joint based Andrews. And I think you and I talked about that Vince on radio show and she. There was concerns back then that she was not properly vetted because she had filed lawsuit against the Dallas Police Department for gender discrimination. And usually that would be disqualifying for the Secret Service.
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Vince
I think there's a temptation among, among good people to, especially if you're tasked with leading an organization like that, to always be seen as supporting the agents. I stand with you. I work with you. But sometimes that temptation overrides the, the good sense to say we need, we need to clean it up. We need to sort the wheat from the chaff here and make sure to support the right people in the agency. And if you do that, if you clean it up, that helps recruitment because people on the outside see it too. And then you get a lot more recruits. So I really hope they can clean up that agency. Before we let you go, Susan Crabtree, we've also got your book Fool's Gold about California and all of the warning signs that that state poses to the United States. Tell us about it.
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Susan Crabtree
Yes, we had a lot of people have talked about California's policy problems, obviously the failed progressive vision. But people haven't focused on the corruption that is so widespread in California. So that's what we do. In this book, I work with Peter Schweitzer's group. My co author is his top research director and one of them. And we did a lot of unveiling of what Gavin Newsom was up to. The problems with the, the political, the money windfall between the wildfires and Gavin Newsom, all the money he's taken from the utilities that caused the wildfires and his connections to China and why he was allowing. He formed a nonprofit that was specifically geared toward trying to get more, more than 100 companies, Chinese companies, into California. But what were they getting into? What was California getting in return? A lot of intellectual property theft and criminals and gay, even gang members being allowed into California. And Gavin Newsom was getting his wine trademarked into China at the same time and actually served as a sommelier to the CCP and had a wine tasting for CCP officials in Beijing.
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Vince
I noticed the only time Gavin Newsom bothered to clean up the state is when the California delegation came. Obviously, the Chinese delegation came to visit. That's the only time they started cleaning everything up. It's, it is really remarkable. And, and I just saw it was Karen Bass, I think this week, the mayor there, who just shared footage images of the first houses finally being rebuilt in the Palisades. And this is, it's going to take forever. This is a state that is so inefficiently run. Do you get the impression that it's bad enough yet for the lefties who live there? Will they vote for someone else?
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Susan Crabtree
I'm deeply concerned that Kamala Harris will be the next governor of California because there's such a divided field on the Democratic side and she has great name recognition. That's pretty much all she has. But unfortunately that California is so lopsided in their voter registrations that people like Rick Richard Grenell are trying to target conservatives and focus his, his nonprofit Fix California, trying to focus on registering more conservative voters because there's a whole swath of people that don't even vote in California. So that's the only strategic plan I've seen so far to, to sort of prevent the next governor from being Kamala Harris.
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Vince
Yeah. And also, just while we're on the issue, deport the illegals, too. There's a lot of, a lot of illegals in the state. And I saw there's some good news this week that Kristi Noemi and Stephen Miller are pushing for even more. And for what it's worth, I've got Tom Homan on the program tomorrow. The border czar will be joining me. Susan Crabtree, Realcliffe Politics. Congratulations on all your great reporting. Thank you. And I can't wait to see what you do next.
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Susan Crabtree
Thank you so much. Vince. It's great to be out with you.
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Vince
Great to talk to you. That's Susan Crabtree with important information telling us to stay on guard for the next 24 to 48 hours as she's got more information coming on the big cocaine saga from the Biden administration. Boy, that was what a great conversation. She's great. Susan Crab. She's really great. And you're great. Thank you for being here as always. Thank you for checking in on Evita's great program each morning. Rumble.com Evita, she's wonderful. Hayley Caranilla, Absolutely crushing it with the nightly scroll. I just work with great people and you should check out their product. If you're not already doing it every day religiously, you should be. Thank you very much as always for being here. What a great time. And thank you again to those of. Those of you. I ran into it Metallica last night in the D.C. area. That was a blast. What a blast we had. Okay, stay with me. I've got the radio show coming up, 12 to 3 Eastern time every day. That's on rumble.com, vince and I appreciate you for being here today. I'm back with you on Friday.