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Dems' Shutdown Is Gone. Now They've Revived Epstein | Episode 168
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Epstein is back in the news because the Dems can't shut the government down again; Trump took a pro-H-1B stance; and Jasmine Crockett says the dumbest thing ever on TV.
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Everybody. Welcome to Vince on a Thursday. It is great to be back with you, the best audience anywhere. Appreciate you giving me the chance to take a little bit of time off when hunting in South Dakota. I'll tell you about that in just a moment. It was really fun. Had a really, really great time. Thank you so much to Haley, Karenia and the team for looking after the show while I was gone. Appreciate you, the best, best team in the business. Love being here with these guys and do love being back. We have a really big show for you today. I want to get into the government shutdown has concluded. The Democrats ach achieved absolutely nothing but inducing more human suffering, which is sort of, that's the move for their whole party, kind of their, their M.O. their modus operandi. That's, that's the way they operate. So the government now getting reopened after eight Democrat senators broke ranks. And now of course, Democrats are fighting amongst themselves. They're also trying to orchestrate distractions. They think that the Epstein thing is something that is going to distract you from their failures. Although the Epstein thing, all it's really doing is exposing more Democrat failures. I've got details about that coming up. And our friend Dan Bongino with a big reaction today to all of the chatter about possibly identifying the January 6th pipe bomber. I'll discuss all of that. There's really a lot to get to here on this edition of Vince, as always, great to have you back with us. Hey, you ever think about aging? You think about aging and maybe when you're moving about you're like, man, why is that feel weird? Why, why is that achy? What? It didn't used to do that. Yeah, that happens. You notice it as you get older. My energy has gone down and I've been trying to figure out ways to get it back. And I'm excited to share something called C15 from fatty 15 with you. It's the first essential fatty acid to be discovered in more than 90 years. 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This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. Yeah, thank you very much. Glad to be back. People saying really nice things about Haley Karenia and her, her time steering this ship. Appreciate Haley for that. The. You know, I was thinking as I was heading out on this vacation, I went to South Dakota to do some pheasant hunting. I was thinking as I hit the door, I was like, I wonder if the audience is going to be mad at me at all. I did have this thought. I was like, I hope people are not too upset that I'm, I'm stepping away for a few days. And I will, I will say this with the most gratitude in the world. Everyone was so stinking supportive. It's, it's unbelievable. And I appreciate you for that though. I got a lot of messages. People are like, have a great time, you know, people and, and, and wishing me a good hunt. We did, we, we did have a great hunt. We had, we got a lot of pheasant. I'm holding up a pheasant tail right now for the video audience. We got a lot of pheasant and it was, it was amazing, actually. It was really amazing. This was a big group of guys, about 40 of us and just a lot of like, there's a lot of like just people getting together and there's like a mixture of talking politics and faith and fellowship and of course hunting, which was a lot of fun. Among the people I was with, I was very privileged to spend some time with our friend John Rich. The great John Rich, who is wonderful. I posted a photo to Instagram of us hanging out together. This is a picture of John Rich. John and I didn't get to be a part of the same hunting group. We did groups of about seven. And so in the 40, we didn't rotate together over the course of the two days of hunting, but we spent a lot of time, we saw each other a lot at the lodge. John is a great, you may know this already, but just I want to tell you, this is an in person guy. He is a great human being, a great Christian, really, really sincere about his faith and just an incredible musician. We had one night where John pulled out his guitar and was playing all sorts of classic country, old country and old blues, and taking requests and playing songs. In fact, Justin, I think I sent you a video, I believe, of a little bit of Johnny Cash here. Do you have that one? Here he is. Can we hear it? So good. Yeah. He did a great job. John. John was a. Was a total joy to hang out with and just a. Just a great, great human being. We got a lot of birds. We got a lot of birds. It was just, it was really, really nice there. This is a. A preserve, so they had, they had, they had. They have a lot of wild birds there, but they also stock a lot of birds. So it's just fields that are full of them. And you know, like, honestly, it's just a, it's an out of this world experience because, you know, you're. You're walking through the fields and like, honestly, if you don't shoot a bird, you just don't have arms or legs. Like, it's like, it's. You got two days. You're definitely going to hit birds no matter how bad you're shooting. I, I'm. I'm unashamed to say that I shoot with a 20 gauge when I have the option, which is what I took. I used a 20 gauge. Most of the fellas chose 12 gauges. Here's me, this video of me here. I put this camera up, taking a shot. I missed the bird in this video. It's the only video I have of me actually taking the shots, which is really funny. But it was, it was such a phenomenal time. We had a good time. There I am loading the shotgun. We could teach Tim Walls how to do that. It was great. It was really great. But we shot a lot of pheasant. I brought some pheasant meat home with me. My. I don't think my wife is super eager. She's like, I don't know if I want pheasant meat. I was like, well, I'll bring it home. I'll cook it, I'll prepare it. We'll. We'll get the family to eat it. So that's the plan. But it was great. There was one moment which was really funny, a lot of funny moments, but there was a moment where two birds. You know the way that you do this, if you've never done pheasant hunting, and I've only. I've only done it a handful of times. So for those of you who are very familiar with this, I apologize for even trying to explain it. But we're. We're walking through. I think at this point it was a cornfield. And the cool thing is you've got dogs. We had guides with us and dogs. And dogs are. Are working on fleshing out the birds and pheasants. By and large, they just want to run away from you. They're not that interested in, of course, being near you, but they don't really feel like they need to fly away from humans. Typ. Unless you're right up on them. So they'll run. But a dog's another story, because if a dog is on them, the dog is really trying to basically take a bite at them. And that bird's going to take off, which is sort of the point. So the dogs run out ahead of you. They're flushing the pheasant. And just ahead of me, I want to say, about 10, 15ft away, this dog spots two pheasant and flushes both of them out. And they both go vertical up over my head and then start flying behind me. The first one I take out. Within a second, the thing goes up and it starts flying in my direction. I pop it and it becomes a meat missile in midair and it slams me in the leg. Literally. I shoot this thing. The bird comes flying down, slams me in the leg. The dog is trying to catch the bird, also slams me in the leg. Now at this point, I'm off balance, but in my head I'm thinking, I want to shoot two birds. I'm trying to shoot both. So I take one out, then I try to whip a 180 to catch this bird that's just flown past me. But both of these animals have just slammed into me and I'm completely off balance. And I realized at that moment I said. I said, self, don't pull that trigger. You're off balance. That's a very dangerous maneuver. So I didn't. So that, that second bird. I'm not sure what happened to that second bird. It may have. I think one of my fellow hunting mates may have. May have taken it out, but, boy, it is. It is an exhilarating experience. And in South Dakota, actually this week, for those of you in South Dakota, you know, we had a very warm. What was it, Tuesday? Tuesday was so warm, we were practically down to T shirts hunting, which is a real joy at this time of year. So it was good. It was very good. Don't pull a chaney. They say, yeah, no thank you. Sea Norris. I tried not to pull a Cheney. That was really important. Although in this kind of pheasant hunting, there's a little bit of, like, for those of us who've ever been trained on firearms, you know that you. Anytime the muzzle of your gun is pointed in any direction, basically you want to make sure that all the human beings are behind that line that goes from your shoulders across. Like, you don't want anybody in front of your gun unless you're actually trying to shoot them. There's kind of a caveat to that with the pheasant hunting. There are these big hay bales at the end of each field that we were shooting at, which is where two shooters would stand, known as the blockers. And their job is to basically catch all the pheasant who are headed in their direction. And you stand behind these hay bales because you're basically trying to protect yourself from any. Any pellets hitting you from these. From these shotguns. And 99% of the time, everything goes perfectly. Nobody. Nobody gets hit, which is really important. You don't want to hit anybody with these shotgun pellets. But it is weird. By the time you get to the end of the field, you are in a situation where you have two human beings standing behind hay bales, and then the rest of you are lined up in this straight line in the field, and you're all sort of firing up in the air simultaneously as these birds are going. And you just have to be really, really smart and really conscientious of where people are as you're. You're firing these guns. So in the effort to not become Dick Cheney, the goal is to be very conscientious about. About firing the weapon, and if there's any risk at all, don't pull the trigger. There's no reason for that, but it's. But it's fun. Anyway, thank you so much again for giving me a window of opportunity to take some time out to do some pheasant hunting. I just had a phenomenal time. And thank you to the great people of South Dakota. The final night we were there Tuesday night, the. The Aurora Barrealis was doing its thing. For those of you across our country who maybe got to see it over the past two nights, the. Yeah, the northern lights were on display and went outside. Got to capture this.
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What a neat treat. I remember just a couple of years back thinking, man, you know, what a bucket list item would be to see the northern lights. And, well, sure enough, there they were. Got to see them on the final night. Of the hunt. That was. That was a gift from God. So thank you the Lord above, and thank you to South Dakota. That was really. It was really nice to spend some time with you. All right, let's get into this. We got a lot going on. The government shutdown has concluded. The government shutdown has concluded. The President of the United States signing the legislation to do that last night. It's all so crazy that it went on as long as it did. What was it, 42, 43 days? And for what? Democrats shut the government down to achieve precisely. Well, nothing. They achieved literally nothing. This was entirely a giveaway to the radicals in their party in an attempt to try and make that radicalism, the revolutionaries in the party, go away, to be. To be quiet, to not be so agitated. And the truth is, at the end of this, it hasn't worked out for Democrats at all. The infighting has only exploded to new levels now among these Democrats. And no, Chuck Schumer has not really in any way forestalled a primary threat from Alexandria, Ocasio Cortez. So the only effect of this is that the economy has suffered meaningful damage due to the government shutdown. The people who were supposed to get paid over these past many weeks, many of them had to go into debt in order to make ends meet for their families. Yes, they'll get back pay, but interest debt, not good for you. People went without food stamps for some time. I'm talking especially about people who actually deserve the food stamps. I'm not talking about the people who are exploiting the system. And again, for what? For absolutely nothing. For nothing. Here's Speaker Mike Johnson last night after they signed the legislation and sent it off to the President saying this was pointless and it was needlessly cruel.
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Here's the speaker 54 days ago when we had that vote September 19th. And since that time, Senate Democrats have voted 14 times to close the government. Republicans voted a collective 15 times to open the government for the people. And the Democrats voted that many times to close it. And then they admitted many of them, and we could name them here, but I'm not going to take the time. They admitted that they were using the American people as leverage in this political game. They knew that it would cause pain, and they did it anyway. The whole exercise was pointless. It was wrong and it was cruel.
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Yeah. Six Democrats ended up crossing the aisle to join Republicans yesterday to approve the bill. And two Republicans voted against reopening the government. That would be Congressman Thomas Massie of Kentucky. More about him coming up. And Greg Stube of Florida, those are the two who voted against getting the government back open. But, you know, other than those six Democrats, really, the, the rest of the party unified in keeping the government shut down, saying the suffering will continue until our power improves. Not happening. Not happening enough. Democrats broke. That's good news. That was true in the Senate, certainly. And the Republicans had the votes in the House to get this thing back open. Yes, that is true. The chat reminding me, of course, as they so often do, about all the things happening in our country that Democrats did use the government shutdown as a means to try and juice their turnout in the elections. That's particularly true in the Commonwealth of Virginia, which is, let's be honest, a blue state. The Democrats use the government shutdown as some sort of demented inducement to try and get their federal worker or federally dependents contractors out to vote. And, and that happened, clearly. Northern Virginia, very, very Democrat, very, very federally dependent turning out to vote for Democrats despite the fact that it was Democrats who had shut down the government. That's absolutely true. And here we are now with the government finally getting reopened. Now, the government may be reopened, but the reality here is that Democrats, in light of that, are looking for a way to spin out of the fact that this achieved absolutely nothing, that it only induced suffering. And so they've moved on to a brand new freakout. Well, not a new one, an old one that they think maybe this will be the way that we can win the American people over. Yesterday, House Democrats, in the midst of all of this, released what they claimed were a bunch of damning emails about Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein. In fact, these are Jeffrey Epstein's emails. And the Democrats yesterday started releasing them and they said, oh, look at this, Donald Trump is caught. Now, before I even go through the details of what's in these emails and what happened next, I just, I do want to remind you of something. If there was actually a damning email that the Department of Justice had in its custody damning Epstein documents that the government had in its custody, those things would have been released during the Biden administration. In fact, it's sort of amazing that the Biden administration didn't invent something to release about Donald Trump. The Democrats have been not shy at all about using every tool at their disposal to cruelly attack Donald Trump and more importantly, his voters. This is what they do all the time. And the Washington Post even admitted a couple months ago, let's be honest, there is no evidence against Donald Trump in this story. In fact, if there was, it would have already leaked to us and it didn't. So Democrats are trying to put the American people through the same old dog and pony show that they keep going back to a Johnny come lately attitude about the Epstein saga, pretending like they were interested in it at all. They've never been interested in it. And that's for obvious reason. Tons of Democrats are either connected to or implicated in Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. In fact, I said earlier this year, do it. Democrats, if you want to keep demanding transparency, if you really want to make documents public, go for it, baby, keep doing it. Because the more authentic documents you reveal, the more rakes you're stepping on as a party. And that was very true yesterday. Very true. In a moment, I'm going to walk you through what Democrats released, how they're using those releases to lie to you, and how Republicans who don't often have moments of genius, yesterday did have one when they said, oh, that's how you want to play it? Good, we'll release everything. And then they did. Boy, it's really fun. This is a good one. I got a lot of information for you. It's all ahead on this edition events. Our great sponsors keep this program going. Thank you to Helix. Helix mattress is great. This time of year, I spend a lot more time indoors, especially after now that I'm back, you know, not, not in the great outdoors shooting pheasant anymore. And actually, and one of the great things about getting back and finally getting back to my house yesterday is going to my Helix mattress, falling asleep in my wonderful Helix mattress. You know, before Helix, I, I couldn't get a great night's sleep and I was convinced that it was me. 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Helix ships free in the United States. It comes with a 120 night sleep trial and lifetime warranty. No stress, just great sleep. And now Helix has an exclusive offer for my listeners. 27% off site wide. Go to helixsleep.com Vince for 27% off site wide. That's helixsleep.com Vince. Make sure you enter Vince in the post purchase survey so they know that this Fella sent you. Helixsleep.com Vince. Thank you, Helix. Yes, indeed. Okay, so the Epstein thing is so crazy. Here's what, here's what the New York Times says. Yesterday, the New York Times put a report up on this subject. Epstein alleged in emails that Trump knew of his conduct. Oh, did he? Trump knew, they say. House Democrats on Wednesday released emails in which Jeffrey Epstein wrote that President Trump had spent hours at my house with one of Mr. Epstein victims.
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Among other messages, messages that suggested the convicted sex offender believed Mr. Trump knew more about his abuse than he has acknowledged. So you go down the, you go down the list here. There's, there's these emails that the Democrats released. And here, let, I'll just, let me take you to this. This is the Democrat email. This is a, this is a great example of the lies that they're telling and how they're telling them. Here's the Democrat email, Jeffrey Epstein emailing Ghislaine Maxwell. All right? And in it he says, I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump. And then blacked out here by the Democrats. It just says, victim, Victim spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. Police chief, etc. I'm 75% there now. I can't, I can't speak to every element of this. And what Epstein is implying with the police chief, I'm 75% there, whatever. But this thing about Trump like that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump. That really, people haven't, haven't gotten their arms around like Trump's the guy we got to go after. And then he says, somebody spent hours at my house with him. Democrats described that person as, quote, victim, victim. So who is victim in this case? Glad you asked. Victim is Virginia Giuffre. Look at this. This is the actual email. This is the email that was released yesterday by House Republicans because after this all started, Republicans said, screw you guys, we're going to release Everything. And here's what it says. I want you to realize that that dog hasn't barked. The dog that hasn't barked is Trump. Virginia spent hours at my house with him. Now, who is Virginia Giuffre? Virginia Giuffre is a woman who has alleged that she was victimized by Jeffrey Epstein, that she was exploited by Jeffrey Epstein in awful, awful ways. And she talked about it for years. Now, earlier this year, she committed suicide. Horrific. But during her life, when she talked about Epstein's crimes, she specifically went out of her way to say that Donald Trump did not participate in anything. Anything. In fact, here is her testimony. This is a deposition where she spoke about all this. And she was asked, so Donald Trump was, in your mind, you believe, a witness to the sexual abuse of minors? And she responds, I don't think Donald Trump participated in anything. That would have to be another assumption. I never saw or witnessed Donald Trump participate in those acts. But was he in the house of Jeffrey Epstein? I've heard he has been, but I haven't seen him myself, so I don't know. So Virginia Giuffre straight up says, nope, I was never a victim of abuse. Never saw it, actually, yeah, I knew that Trump knew Epstein. In fact, that's not a secret at all. But no, I have no reason to believe that this man abused anyone. So you notice what the Democrats are doing here? Obviously, the Democrats blur out the name of the woman who says outright that Donald Trump is not guilty of anything and then implies that he's guilty of doing something to her. You see the game? That's, that's the game. It's the wrap up. Smear is Nancy Pelosi's favorite weapon. Imply something awful about Trump and then the rubes will believe it. The idiots will believe it. That's the plan. Democrats were going wild yesterday online. This is it. We've got them now. No, you don't. In fact, this thing is interesting because Jasmine Crockett was on television yesterday and I think this is on cnn, and CNN asked her like, wait a second, the name here is Virginia Giuffre. Virginia Giuffre said that Trump is not guilty of anything. So why did you black the name out? Listen, as Jasmine Crockett claims that Republicans may have doctored these documents, literally wrote Virginia's name onto the page in order to fake you out, to lie to you. Listen to this conspiracy theory come out on live television. Here's cut five, Jasmine Crockett.
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Yesterday, Republicans were saying that that victim is Virginia Giuffre. As you know, she died by suicide. She's been very outspoken, very outspoken victim of Jeffrey Epstein. She did not accuse him of any wrongdoing. What do you make of that? And can you confirm that? Yeah, I don't know. Obviously it's redacted who the victim is. So I won't necessarily take the Republicans word on who it is. That's redacted. And I don't know why they would necessarily redact someone's name who is deceased at this point. The Democrats did that, though. The Democrats were. No, no, no, I understand, but I'm just saying, like our biggest concern is to actually make sure that we are protecting victims. And obviously she wrote a book, she told her truth.
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That that woman is obviously mentally ill. But her recitation of the facts or whatever she's claiming is simply that I'm not going to trust Republicans. They probably made that up. And by the way, we would never redact a name of somebody who was deceased anyway. You heard what was happening. And then the CNN lady responded. She was like, well, you know, it was the Democrats who redacted it. The CNN lady didn't understand what Jasmine Crockett was saying. Jasmine Crockett was trying to literally on the spot, come up with a conspiracy theory in order to defend the callous and disgraceful behavior of Democrats. And that's what they did yesterday with this stunt. So Republicans, to their great credit, they decided that, how about this? How about we're not going to release a bunch of these, like, these distorted documents designed to pretend like Trump is guilty of anything. Why don't we let the American people decide? And so House Republicans yesterday released 23,000 pages of documents, Jeffrey Epstein's emails. And boy, it's kind of fascinating actually what it exposes. And it's not Donald Trump at all, at all. Now, Democrats really wanted this information to be stopped. They did not want the full release of these documents. In fact, here's Tim Burchett yesterday, cut six talking about how Democrats were desperately trying to stop the full release of this information.
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Watch left the House floor and I tried to do a UC unanimous consent of a, tried to get the Epstein files, get it straight to the floor just to cut out all this nonsense. And you know, and the Democrats blocked it, oddly enough. Now here they've had it for four years and they obviously, if there was something there about Trump, they would have released it. And now they're all, let's get it out, let's get it out. Well, I, I just made a motion to bring it straight to the dadgum floor. And they blocked it. They blocked it.
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Yeah, I made a motion. Let's bring it right to the floor. Democrats blocked it. Well, what do you have to hide, Democrats? Why are you blocking it? Well, these files really do begin to indicate that they do have something to hide. No question. Among the things they have to hide is the fact that a writer, kind of a. What, what do we, what's the word we use? A fabulous by the name of Michael Wolf was conversing with Jeffrey Epstein in 2016, sending him emails and advising him that he should try and take down Trump to help Hillary Clinton. That was Michael Wolf who was doing this 2016. This is long after Jeffrey Epstein was a convicted sex offender. This is long after people had rightly concluded that he was abusing all of these young girls. Here's Michael Wolf still communicating with Jeffrey Epstein and saying, now's your chance. You should try and take down Donald Trump. I've got more information on this in a moment. 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Okay, so these Democrats, they wanted to release a couple of documents. They redact things. They try to imply that Donald Trump is guilty of something, but he turns out he's not guilty of anything. In fact, one of the emails that the New York Times is relying on here to try and condemn Donald Trump is that they say that Trump knew about the girls. Trump knew about the girls. Interesting, because here's the actual email as, as released by the Democrats. Now, they redact portions of it, but he said, he references the fact that Donald Trump kicked him out of Mar A Lago. And he says, Trump said, he asked me to resign. I was never a member, ever. Well, Trump kicked him out of Mar A Lago for. For being a creep with the girls. And so Trump kicked him out. This has been long established, but that's hardly relevant to what the New York Times is attempting here. But here's what Jeffrey Epstein told to the author, Michael wolf. This is 2019. This is after two years into Trump's presidency. He says, of course he knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop. Of course he knew about the girls as he asked Ghislaine to stop. Now, I Don't know about you chat, but when you read one of these things, when you read that line, assuming this is a real email between Jeffrey Epstein and Michael Wolf, doesn't that have the effect of not condemning Trump but instead exonerating him? Trump knew that we were doing awful things, so he tried to get us to stop. That's a damning email. Hardly. Hardly a damning email. That's Donald Trump intervening to try and make sure that there was no one being abused. Again, if any of this is to be believed. Now, the left today, of course, is acting like Jeffrey Epstein's the burning bush here. Everything he says is the truth. Oh, okay, got it. So he told the truth all those years about abusing those girls. He was telling the truth about what was happening at Little St. James and in Manhattan and all these places on the Lolita Express. He was telling the truth about all that. Is that the contention you're making now? Yeah. So these emails, like, keep on coming out. And again, they're not kill shots. They're not damning to Trump. If they were, they would have. Would have been released years ago. This is a spin job in order to distract from the fact that Democrats just screwed over the American people with a giant shutdown. Now, these Michael Wolff emails, they go on, and in them, you learn that the Jeffrey Epstein exchanges were designed with Michael Wolff. Some of this was designed to try and hurt Trump in the lead up to the 2016 election with Hillary Clinton. And so here's what we have. Fox News with the report. Biographer urged Epstein to bash Trump for political cover in newly released emails to bash Trump for political cover. Now Epstein, you can see why Epstein is in massive legal jeopardy. He's got all sorts of legal problems related to his mistreatment of girls. And as a result, you have Michael Wolf telling Epstein, hey, now's your chance. Hillary Clinton's going to become President of the United States. That's obvious. Everyone knows that that's going to happen. And so you might as well join the dogpile right now. Attack Trump, come out with some means of attacking Trump, and when you do, Hillary Clinton is going to love you for it. It's going to be great. Hillary and the Clintons, who have a long and tortured history with Jeffrey Epstein, who've been, you know, Bill Clinton, who definitely knew Jeffrey Epstein, spent a lot of time with him. They thought, this is our chance to suck up to the Clintons. So here's what it says. Many of the emails included exchanges between Epstein and the magazine writer turned biographer, Michael Wolff. Wolf had reached out to Epstein repeatedly and in some cases discussing Epstein's public image and apparently encouraging him to bash Trump as a way to repair it. New York Times called me about you and Trump said wolf, this is February 2016. Also Hillary campaign digging deeply. Again, you should consider preempting. So Epstein is talking with this guy Michael Wolf who's encouraging him to launch attacks on Trump to curry favor with Democrats. A month later, they discussed strategy ahead of the release of a book called Filthy Rich by James Patterson, a true crime book about Epstein. Michael Wolf suggested to Epstein that, quote, becoming an anti Trump voice gives you a certain political cover which you don't have right now. And so this was what was going on. They were conspiring to how can we hurt Donald Trump in these email exchanges? So once again, this doesn't damage Trump. This redounds to his benefit, actually, because it helps not only to exonerate him, but demonstrate that there was a conspiracy among people who hated him, that includes Jeffrey Epstein, to try and defame him. Where have we seen this before? Well, I don't know every Democrat made up scandal about Donald Trump we've seen ever. They're constantly trying to defame him. Is the wrap up smear constantly delivered? We're over and over and over again. We also learn in these emails that all sorts of elites, all sorts of leaders in society. I say leaders loosely. They're not actually leading you and I, but certainly having a big impact on public policy, are communicating with Jeffrey Epstein long after it's well concluded that he's a sex offender, that he's abusing children. And that includes a New York Times journalist by the name of Landon Thomas who's captured in these emails. He's in the emails. Good job, Democrats. You're doing great. Here's Landon Thomas reaching out to Jeffrey Epstein in September of 2017, tipping him off to the fact that a different journalist by the name of John Connolly, a former New York City police detective, is digging around at the moment about Epstein. And so you have a New York Times reporter tipping Epstein off about this. He says he's digging around again, not clear if it's another book or an expanded paperback version. Was asking me all sorts of questions about why you hired Ken Starr. Ken Starr, you remember Ken Starr from the, from the Clinton years and the Starr report. Ken Starr was Epstein's lawyer at one point. I told him I had no idea, says the New York Times reporter. I think he is doing some Trump related digging too. Anyway, for what it's worth. So you have New York Times reporters tipping off Jeffrey Epstein. I'm sorry if there's a scandal here is the extent to which the elites in our society continued to maintain chummy suck up relationships with a child abuser long after it was publicly known that that was his status. That's the story. And there's lots of people who pop up in this. Lots of people. And their names are not Donald J. Trump. So, yes, you want to release documents. I want you to release documents, release evidence. I want everything we can possibly get. I've wanted it for the longest time and continue to want it to this day. But every time Democrats try and pull this stunt, which is like, oh, the Epstein documents, Trump's trying to hide something. It's like an article of faith on the left. Go on blue sky someday. Actually, don't go on blue sky. But if you went on blue sky when you discover is a bunch of people think that Donald Trump abused children, and actually even worse than that, they are wishing he abused children. The left has a desire in their heart of hearts, in their tortured heart of hearts, that Donald Trump truly hurt children. They want that to be true and they want that to be public because they think now, finally, we can take him out. If that's the case. That's what they want. Their desire to take out Donald Trump is so sincere and so cruel that they hope children were abused by him. That's sick. It's disgusting. But as they release these documents, we get more and more information about just how twisted and disgusting Democrats are, as well as the media outfits that carry their water. It's, it's all exposed here. So go ahead, keep releasing them. As I mentioned, this is a gigantic stunt to try and distract from the Schumer shutdown. What a disaster it was. Caroline Levitt laid this out yesterday. Here's cut seven. The White House press secretary saying, let's be honest about what we're witnessing here.
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Now they're talking about it all of a sudden because President Trump is in the Oval Office. But when Joe Biden was sitting in there, the Democrats never brought this up. This wasn't an issue that they cared about because they actually don't care about the victims in these cases. They care about trying to score political points against President Trump, as we have, of course, seen with this government shutdown and this entire thing. Again, it's not a coincidence to the American people at home. There are no coincidences in Washington, D.C. and it is not a coincidence that the Democrats leaked these emails to the fake news this morning ahead of Republicans Reopening the government. This is another distraction campaign by the Democrat in the liberal media. And it's why I'm being asked for questions about Epstein instead of the government reopening because of Republicans and president.
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So here's the thing. A couple, a couple elements here. Obviously, President Trump has been annoyed all year about this, about the Epstein thing, like saying, look, Democrats are just trying to cook up another Russia hoax right now. And this undoubtedly true. I just laid out all the reasons that they're doing that and how they're doing that and how they're trying to carry that out. They're trying to imply that Donald Trump did something wrong, despite the fact that there's no evidence to support that they've been doing it all year. So Trump has been on guard for this story because he's like, I see what this is. I've experienced this before, where they take either little kernels of information that that might be true, or they distort information to make it appear true when it's not. And then they sort of just use their media vessels to create a narrative that Donald Trump is bad. The wrap up smear over and over and over again, that happened with the Trump Russia collusion hoax, the claim that Trump Tower is connected to Alpha bank through remote servers, or that Trump was colluding with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary Clinton. The Charlottesville hoax is another example of this, where they said that Donald Trump was standing with white supremacists and neo Nazis despite the fact that he condemned white supremacists and neo Nazis. They just didn't share that element with you. They kept that out of the story. So when a story like this comes along, one that has a bunch of very real information, I think continues to be of interest to the American people, certainly of interest to me. Donald Trump is on guard because he can smell it in the air. He knows what's happening right now. And he said, I'm not doing that again. I'm not going through that garbage again. In fact, we shouldn't put the American people through that garbage again. I don't want to be in a situation where you try and lock up my administration with a complete hoax. So, yeah, let's stop playing this stupid game. His view is let's not give any oxygen to this fire because the Democrats are trying to burn the whole house down with it. That's his view. Now, I will say I continue to be of the position that I think the easier way out of all of this is like maximum disclosure. Just get ahead of the Democrats. Just beat them at their own game. Don't even let them. They're angry yesterday, by the way, that, that The Republicans released 23,000 files because their view is like, oh, like we can't tell people all this information at once. It's too much or whatever. And that's not, that's not true. That's what they're claiming is the issue. No, maximum transparency. I'm fine with that. And it reflects back on Democrats very, very poorly. So, yeah, just keep releasing information. So my advice to the President is don't get too worked up about it. I'd release more stuff, but you can see why he's on guard. He's on guard for this cuz he hates these hoaxes because they constantly get in his way. And so yesterday the President posted to Truth Social about this. He shared Caroline Levitt's view on the subject. He said, you know, the Democrats are trying to bring up the Jeffrey Epstein hoax again because they're gonna do anything at all to deflect on how badly they've done on the shutdown and so many other subjects. Only a very bad or stupid Republican would fall into that trap. The Democrats cost our country $1.5 trillion with their recent antics of viciously closing our country while at the same time putting many at risk. And they should pay a fair price. There should be no deflections to Epstein or anything else. And any Republicans involved should be focused only on opening up our country and fixing the massive damage caused by the Democrats. Yeah, that's right. So this is the President again making the point that I just made that he's been maintaining, which is like, don't fall for this. Don't fall for the distractions the Democrats are trying to orchestrate here. Because what they're really attempting to do is lock up the country again and, and buy time until they can take power again. And time is of the essence. We don't have time to waste. We got to get to the business of the American people, which I think is. Which I think is very, very important. All right, let me see here. Speaking of time being of the essence, we don't have a ton of it left. So I want to see if I can slam through some really important things with you. John Fetterman just did an interview where he was asked by a lefty interviewer who he thinks is worse, the far left or the far right. And his answer, well, sounds right to me. Listen to the Democrat senator from Pennsylvania telling the truth again.
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I can confirm that the most poisonous the bitterest is from the far left. That is pretty remarkable to hear you say that as an elected Democrat. Why?
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You know, it's just been my personal experience on this thing, and when I asked my digital team, I said, you know, you're. We're on all the platforms, you know, really what's. What's kind of the harshest? What's kind of the most personal? And the answer was immediate. He said, oh, blue sky. It's blue sky. And the difference is, I mean, the right would say really rough things and names, you know, some names I won't. I won't repeat on, on tv. But, but, but the. On the left, it was like, they want me to die or that we're cheering for your next stroke or that's terrible, that depression. Why couldn't it depression one and I hope your kids find you. And then they even have, like, the graphic a gif, where they have, like a stroke, you know. You know, in your head. Yeah, and they said that. I remember one they claimed, oh, the doctor let us down. And why did they have to save his life? I mean, just really, like, I just can't imagine people are. Are wishing, you know, I wish he dies or I want him to die, you know, literally cheering for. For a stroke. And I don't know what the kind of a place where that comes from. I mean, that's. That's much different than just calling me a name, you know, and that's. That's really been consistent, you know, in that community online.
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Yeah, it's disgraceful. And good for him for telling the truth about this. This is something that you and I have known for a long time, which is the left has an immense and unfortunate appetite for violence, some of which spills out into actual acts of violence, whether it's against men and women of law enforcement, men and women of immigration enforcement, certainly against the President of the United States, and definitely against Charlie Kirk. We've seen it time and time again. There's an assassination culture on the left and an ease with which they talk about killing their political opponents or hoping for their demise. I still come from the school of, look, there's all sorts of people I don't like in politics, but I am not wishing for their death, their execution, their assassination, their physical demise. I'm just wishing for them not to continue to wield power over my life. That's all. But on the left, it's not that way. There are massive, massive numbers of people who have very cruel intentions for their political opponents, and that includes people who are with them 90% of the time. John Fetterman is a pretty dedicated Democrat. His view is that he supports all the Democrat legislation, all the Democrat policies. He's basically with them pretty consistently. But if he steps out of line occasionally, says something like, oh, it's good that the president is securing the border or something, and then the left goes apoplectic. They're. They're. Basically, their position is, if you're not with us 100 of the time, you deserve a stroke. You deserve some sort of catastrophic event or death. And John Fetterman is experiencing that. Good for him for just saying it out loud. But in the meantime, by saying it out loud, you would think decency would be rewarded. That's not true in that party. Democrats are looking for primary opponents now for John Fetterman in Pennsylvania, because that kind of decency, that will not be tolerated at all in that party. It's really a sign of how far they've fallen. Now, let me. Let me get to something else that's going on this week. While I've been gone. I know there's been a lot of chatter about. About the possibility that we finally have the name of the January 6th Pipe Bomber. There was a report that was put out over the weekend by the Blaze, and the reporter there, Steve Baker, man I've interviewed many times through the years. He was a victim of all the January 6th nonsense. I personally advocated to the President of the United States for Steve Baker to get a pardon. I said, are you going to pardon Steve Baker? And the president's like, tell me more about him. I did this in a. In a radio interview, actually. And, and fortunately, Steve was pardoned among the January 6th victims by the president earlier this year, which was great news. But earlier this week, Steve came out with a report saying that there was a former Capitol Police officer who was responsible for laying the pipe bombs. And they relied on something called gait analysis. In other words, like how the woman was walking in order to establish that she's the same person as the woman depicted in the security footage. Obviously, it's created a ton of chatter on the right. There are people who believe it and say that they've got their reporting dead to rights. There are others who are very skeptical, saying, hey, this could be legally perilous if they're wrong about this, which would be true. If you allege that someone did something and it's not the case that they did it, you could get yourself into some legal trouble. I'm not here to render a judgment on that subject. I Eagerly, like you, await the findings of all of this. But I do want to take you to something that's transpired over the last 24 hours that I think is meaningful. Thomas Massie, the Congressman Thomas Massie, put out a Twitter post, an X post, yesterday evening, 7:17 Eastern Time, alleging that he had just received a letter from an attorney representing an FBI whistleblower regarding the January 6th pipe bomb investigation. And in this, in his post, he says he wants to remind FBI Director Cash Patel in case this letter is warranted. In other words, I'm not even sure you're actually violating anybody's rights in case it's warranted. Federal law prevents retaliation against whistleblowers. And the letter from an attorney called Kurt Sweezdak, I think, alleges that there was going to be a meeting this morning, this morning, meaning Thursday morning, and at the Washington field office at the FBI at 10am so presumably, as we're speaking live, if this is accurate in any way, that meeting's taking place. It was obvious from the information provided by senior leadership in the Washington field office, this is an attempt to identify the FBI whistleblower who made protected disclosures to the Congress. In other words, that this attorney is alleging that some sort of illegal whistleblower hunt is going on at the FBI right now and saying that this is a reprisal and violation of the law. Okay, so that's the letter that Thomas Massey put out suggesting that, hey, maybe something really nefarious is going on at the FBI. I have no idea if it actually is, but I just want people to know about this. Well, the update this morning on this story is we just heard from our friend Dan Bongino on this subject. And I think especially not least of all, because the audience I'm speaking to was almost entirely built by Dan Bongino. I should tell you all about what Dan is up to. I love Dan's activities, and Dan's had a lot of success at the FBI, especially with Operation Summer Heat, where they were taking violent criminals off the street left and right, making America a lot safer this year. But here's what Dan had to say in response to Thomas Massie, to Congressman Massie. And boy, this one's a doozy. Amazing. So here's what he said. I'll read it for you. Those of you listening on the audio podcast, if you're watching, you can see it on my screen. Congressman Massie, when Director Patel and I entered on duty in our leadership positions in the FBI, we had our hands full, but we were happy to be a part of the President's team. And we still are, despite the multitude of challenges that we face. One of our first initiatives was to aggressively pursue a new strategy to investigate the January 6th pipe bomb, the terror attack. We brought in new personnel to take a look at the case. We flew in police officers and detectives working at TFO's task force officers to review FBI work. We conducted multiple internal reviews. We held countless in person and SVTC meetings with investigative team members. We dramatically increased investigative resources and we increased the public award for information in the case to utilize crowdsourcing leads. This is only a small sample of the work the FBI personnel and leadership team have put into this critical investigation. And to speak up for Dan's obsession here, one you and I both know he's been obsessed with this case. January 6th is the pipe bomb case in particular for as long as he's been giving public commentary. And yes, while he's been inside the FBI. And in fact, among the people that he worked with immediately was Ed Martin, the now former U.S. attorney for D.C. the head of the weaponization subgroup at the Justice Department, the guy who's also working on the pardons for Donald Trump. Ed Martin is a sincere patriot and he told this audience we had him on the program, he's like Dan Bongino is obsessed with getting the person who laid those bombs, obsessed with it. And I'm working with him to do that. And that this has been an obsession of Dan's for as long as he's been out of office and in office. So that continues. I don't for a second, I truly, I mean this sincerely, I don't for a second doubt Dan's conviction to try and get to the bottom of this. So this is why it's also fascinating to see any claim to the contrary, as Thomas Massie is suggesting. Oh, there's like reprisal for whistleblowers, really. Here's what Dan says. This is only a small sample of the FBI. The work the FBI personnel and leadership team have put into this critical investigation. When I spoke with you yesterday, he's talking about Congressman Massie a little after 8 o' clock in the morning, 8am Eastern. I offered you an in person brief on our work. We spoke for 10 minutes, so that was the end of that. So stepping away from Dan's post for a moment, that was the end of their conversation. They spoke for 10 minutes. He offered to brief Thomas Massie on everything. I'll give you an update on everything. Yet Massie, by the evening had posted this, this letter from a lawyer saying, oh, no, the FBI is trying to hurt whistleblowers. Okay, but what about the briefing? Dan just offered you an opportunity to learn all about this. You didn't take him up on it. And then you proceeded to suggest that the FBI was doing something nefarious. That's really the pattern of events. That's awful that you would do that. And so the whistleblower letter, the, the lawyer's letter comes out in the 7 o' clock hour yesterday. And so immediately after that, Dan says he called Thomas Massie again. He said, I called you back a bit after 7.30pm to again make the offer. You didn't even answer and have yet to call me back. Despite this, you continue to imply that the director and I, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, are targeting investigators in the case. This is disgusting, even by the low standards many have for politicians. You know my number. You are free to call me anytime. But it's easier to tweet and throw BS bombs. Yes. Our leadership team will be meeting with FBI team members today and we will avail them of, of all the whistleblower resources they need to disclose any evidence of malfeasance in the prior administration. And we will ask about threads that may have gone unpulled under prior leadership. But we are passionate about solving this case. But a week of near 24 hour work on recent open source leads in the case. Recent. He capitalizes the word recent, meaning they are getting new tips very recently about this case, about the January 6th pipe bomber case. A week of near 24 hour work on those leads has yet to produce a breakthrough. In other words, we're not there yet, is what Dan says. And some of the media reporting regarding prior persons of interest, this is important, is grossly inaccurate and serves only to mislead the public. So I think it's safe for you and I to conclude he's referring to the Blaze reporting. I'm not sure what else he'd be talking about here. He doesn't say that explicitly, but he says that some of the media reporting regarding prior persons of interest. In other words, maybe that this former Capitol Police officer that the Blaze has identified, maybe she was a, quote, prior person of interest here. But Dan says that, look, it's grossly inaccurate and it's only misleading the public. I proudly serve in this administration. I proudly work with Director Patel to reform and advance the crime fighting and national security missions of the FBI. We would love to have you, Thomas Massie, as a partner in this mission rather than a Dog barking behind a fence. Now, whatever's going on here, whatever's going on here, it's insane that Thomas Massie would not take Dan Bongino up on his offer. Like if you were pursuing the truth about the January 6th pipe bomber, if that was your job, and the deputy director of the FBI offered a personal briefing to you about the latest information, what they know, what they're working on, whatever he can share, wouldn't you take it? Yes, of course you would. And Massey didn't do that. Massey instead did something deeply slimy, which is he went on to attack the FBI without actually taking up the deputy Director on what I think is a very meaningful offer to try and get to the bottom of all of this. That's so stupid. It's so stupid. And Dan shared the receipts because Dan's into receipts, as you know about his phone calls. He posted both of the screenshots of his calls to Thomas Massie yesterday. The one outgoing call from the morning, 10 minutes long. The outgoing call in the evening, three seconds long because the guy didn't answer the phone. That's the state of play. And so do I want to know who the January six pipe bomber is? Yes, I do. Is Dan Bongino want to know who it is? Yes, he does. It's his old thing. So one of the primary missions he's on. It's been true all year long. Why did the FBI just release video? They released high quality footage like two, three weeks ago. Once again asking for assistance, saying they have a half million dollar reward. High quality footage showing this lady walking around looks pretty. Obviously it looks to me like a lady. That's what I said after I watched it. Walking around planting bombs. It's because they actually want to solve this. If this was a cover up, it'd be the worst cover up ever. Yeah, we're trying to cover up the identity of the January 6th pipe bomber. So they keep reminding people about the January six pipe bomber. Yeah, that math ain't mathing as the kid might kids might say. I'm back with you tomorrow on this program. I got the big national radio show today. I've got countless things to cover. We've got a lot to get to. I'm doing that from 12 to 3 Eastern. If you want to listen to the radio show, you can do it. Go to the Vince show dot com, get your local listings, get your local radio station or check us out on rumble. Rumble.com Vince. We do the show live. I'm right here on camera. It is always so great to be with you. The best audience anywhere, truly. Thank you for letting me do a little bit of hunting. I'll talk to you soon.