Horrific Video Out Of Florida (Ep. 2490)

Summary

The Dan Bongino Show – Episode 2490: “Horrific Video Out Of Florida”
Date: April 8, 2026
Host: Dan Bongino
Notable Guest: Vince Colonnaise

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the current political and cultural flashpoints facing America, with a primary focus on:

• The recent, controversial U.S.-Iran negotiations and Trump’s negotiation style
• Media criticism and inconsistency toward Trump
• A disturbing crime by an illegal immigrant in Florida—used to highlight border policy failures
• Government surveillance, free speech, and the risks of expanding state power
• Ongoing government and Medicare fraud issues, with media and government accountability under scrutiny

The show features frequent co-host banter, humor, and a detailed interview with conservative commentator Vince Colonnaise.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Negotiation “Playbook” vs. the Media Narrative

Timestamps: [00:31] – [15:00]

• Bongino and Justin break down Trump’s signature negotiation methodology:
  1. Negotiate with everyone, even adversaries
  2. If you don’t get what you want, escalate unexpectedly
  3. Stake out a maximalist (sometimes extreme) position
  4. Secure a deal that lands above the original baseline
• Bongino repeatedly urges listeners and especially the media to recognize this pattern, citing prior negotiations with North Korea, Venezuela, and more.
• Satirical audio skit lampoons media panic about Trump’s possible military escalation.

“If he liked Vladimir Putin, he wouldn’t be providing weapons to Ukraine. It’s a negotiating tactic. Pay attention. Try to keep up, media dip wads.” – Dan Bongino [08:10]

• Media’s response process is parodied as:
  1. Trump does “nothing”—he’s a coward.
  2. Trump escalates—he’s a lunatic, risking WW3.
  3. Trump lands a deal—he “chickens out.”
• The hosts excoriate the media for never telling “the story, only a story.”

2. The Iran Standoff & Geopolitical Analysis

Timestamps: [10:12] – [22:04]

• Bongino details recent U.S. military strikes on Iran’s energy infrastructure, specifically Carg Island, emphasizing it’s Iran’s economic lifeline.
• The episode highlights the role of U.S. action for pressuring Iran, with secondary pressure on China, who relies on Iranian oil.
• China’s involvement in encouraging a deal is framed as evidence of U.S. leverage.

“If he takes out Carg Island and their energy infrastructure, the Iranians, China and all of that... are screwed.” – Dan Bongino [21:40]

3. Government Overreach: Surveillance & Free Speech

Timestamps: [37:11] – [44:21]

• Responding to a recent exposé about a supposed “political pre-crime center” at the FBI, Bongino vigorously denies the claim and explains his role in tearing down politically weaponized practices within the agency.
• He warns against leftist plans for censorship, using Gavin Newsom’s wife’s comments about controlling “hate speech” online as an example of the dangerous direction government surveillance might take.
• Bongino advocates for investment in free speech platforms and vigilance as technology enhances state power.

“When the left gets back in charge, you better be really careful about the surveillance tools you give them. Because, folks, I’m telling you, I lived it.” – Dan Bongino [44:21]

4. Accountability: Medicare & Government Fraud

Timestamps: [45:13] – [51:52]

• Bongino spotlights CBS News investigations revealing massive fraud in California’s hospice industry.
• He commends the Republican-led DOJ under J.D. Vance for ramping up government fraud probes, with over 8,000 active cases nationwide.
• The discussion turns to bipartisan blame for the national debt but emphasizes recent aggressive actions by the Trump administration to pare down unnecessary spending.

“We can’t continue to dole out money in wheelbarrows out the door to fake doctors, fake medical clinics...” – Dan Bongino [50:13]

5. Economic Crisis & The Solution According to Bongino & Elon Musk

Timestamps: [52:07] – [57:38]

• Bongino plays an extended clip of Elon Musk warning that America is heading toward bankruptcy unless exponential growth is achieved, particularly via AI and technological advancement.
• Discussion centers on debt vs. GDP growth, with a key argument for government austerity and pro-capitalist, innovation-focused policies.
• Data is cited showing America’s middle class is “shrinking” because many are moving into the upper-middle class.

“If we can get to this AI quantum revolution... [it] will give us enough of a national raise, we can get out ahead of this.” – Dan Bongino [54:59]

6. Border Security, Violent Crime, and National Policy

Timestamps: [58:02] – [60:06]

• Bongino introduces “the horrific video out of Florida”: an illegal Haitian immigrant (shielded from deportation by the Biden administration) brutally kills a woman at a gas station.
• He argues this crime is the direct result of reckless border and immigration policies and stresses that a small fraction of offenders account for most violent crime.

“This individual... should not have been here at all. That’s the point.” – Dan Bongino [58:35]

7. Interview with Vince Colonnaise: America’s Challenges, GOP, and Media

Timestamps: [64:48] – [89:49]

Negotiation & the Maximalist Tactic

• Colonnaise explains Trump’s negotiation as rooted in the “maximalist” approach: unpredictable escalation followed by productive settlement.
• Trump’s unpredictability is key: “The maximalist position only works because you don’t know if he’s bluffing or not.” – Bongino [70:03]
• They compare this approach to historic moments with North Korea, Russia, and Iran.

Media Criticism & Republican Party Dynamics

• Discusses media’s willful mischaracterization of Trump as both a warmonger and a coward—“Trump always chokes them out,” Vince quips [72:04].
• Examines healthy debate and diversity of opinion in the Republican party, but criticizes the media for inflating supposed internal divisions.

International Alliances: NATO, China, and U.S. Leverage

• Bongino and Colonnaise both voice frustration at European “free-riders” in NATO, contrasting them with America’s heavy lifting in defense and intelligence sharing.
• Praise for Trump’s efforts to pressure NATO partners is tempered by observation of European “rudderlessness.”

Immigration, Crime, and Policy Results

• The Florida murder is revisited as emblematic of border problems.
• Colonnaise celebrates mass deportation numbers under Trump while castigating progressive policies.
• They note “1% of the population commits 75% of violent crime,” arguing that focusing on this small group dramatically lowers crime rates [60:50, 85:17].

Economic & Political Capital: The Cost of Lies

• Vince advances Bongino’s idea that Democrats must spend both “political and economic capital” to sustain narratives contrary to observable truths, as truth is “so free and so prevalent now.”
• Example: Trump’s cost-effective 2016 campaign versus Hillary Clinton’s big-budget failure.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Trump’s strategy:
  “He just is unpredictable. Negotiate in good faith, you don’t get what you want. Escalate unpredictably, maybe intentionally, chaotically.” – Dan Bongino [09:40]
• On media inconsistency:
  “You’re mad at him for making a threat that led to a concession, and now you’re calling him a chicken...” – Dan Bongino [16:28]
• On border crime:
  “The illegal immigrant crime rate is 100%. If you break our laws, it’s 100%. I know this comes as a shock to Don Lemon...” – Vince Colonnaise [82:20]
• On free speech & government power:
  “That is the left. When they get back in charge, you better be really careful about the surveillance tools you give them.” – Dan Bongino [44:11]
• On government spending & growth:
  “If we don’t grow our way out of this, there is no way out.” – Dan Bongino [55:35]
• Humor/Absurdity:
  Satirical audio skit, with movie quotes, mocking media hysteria over Trump’s threats [05:31 – 06:47].

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• 00:31 – 15:00: Dissecting Trump’s negotiation method vs. media playbook
• 15:15 – 20:58: Media hypocrisy montage, including Trace Gallagher and analysis
• 21:18 – 25:15: Iranian energy infrastructure as U.S. leverage — Fox and Israeli sources
• 37:11 – 44:21: FBI “pre-crime” rumors, censorship, surveillance, and free speech
• 45:13 – 52:07: CBS exposes Medicare/hospice fraud, Bongino discusses sweeping government fraud investigations
• 52:07 – 57:38: Elon Musk’s warning on national debt and solutions via AI and economic growth
• 58:02 – 60:06: The Florida crime video — illegal immigration and violent crime debate
• 64:48 – 89:49: Vince Colonnaise interview: Trump doctrine, media tactics, GOP divides, NATO, border security, and economics

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Final Thoughts

Bongino’s tone is combative, irreverent, and unapologetically partisan. He and Colonnaise frame political debates as fights between common sense, patriotic Americans and “deliberately stupid” (often malicious) elites in media and government.
Each segment is used not only to analyze contemporary headlines but also to urge listeners to “choose wisely” and resist the normalization of leftist or statist policy failures.

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Episode summary by Podcast Summarizer AI — For listeners who want a thorough, timestamped breakdown of today’s no-nonsense conservative commentary.

Transcript

[Dan Bongino]

All America, all the time. Sit down, buckle up and get ready for the Dan Bongino show. Well, I have a special surprise for you today.

[Justin]

Got some exclusive audio Andrew's been working on.

[Dan Bongino]

It's amazing. You're never going to believe we got our hands on this. Andrew has been working on this feverishly for the last half an hour. You're going to love this.

[Justin]

Only we have it. Only we have it. So how many times are we going

[Dan Bongino]

to go through this with the Donald Trump playbook versus the media playbook? How many? How many times? What did I tell you all yesterday? I'm not talking to the Bongino army. I love you guys. You already know where I'm going with this.

[Justin]

But to my haters, who. It's okay. You're welcome here, too.

[Dan Bongino]

It's okay.

[Justin]

I told you yesterday. Correct.

[Dan Bongino]

With all the.

[Justin]

I cannot believe he's got a wipe out Iran. He's going to nuke. The whole place going to blow up. It's going to separate. He's going to destroy it. It's going to be a parking lot. Trump is crazy. They were saying he's nuts. He's totally lost it. And do you remember this conversation yesterday? I hope you do. Many of you were here. I said, have you not seen this a couple thousand times from Donald Trump? What was the name of this book?

[Dan Bongino]

Wasn't it called, like the Art of the Deal?

[Justin]

You know, you could actually read the

[Dan Bongino]

book if you'd like to see how Donald Trump negotiates a deal.

[Justin]

You could read the book he wrote, Justin, about the deal where he actually says this stuff. He takes this maximalist position. He then gets a concession where we're better than the baseline. And where he started, he's only done it a thousand times. The North Koreans, Venezuela tariffs, he, the list goes on and on and on. So I'm going to go into this

[Dan Bongino]

in the beginning of the show, the Trump playbook versus the media playbook.

[Justin]

And you're going to see again how all of the people who lost their

[Dan Bongino]

minds yesterday about Trump's true social post about wiping out Iran wasted your time. If you lost your mind over it

[Justin]

scratching at your face, I can't believe it. He's going to nuke Iran. World War Three again. A lot of these commentators have predicted effectively 422 out of the last two World Wars. It's incredible. All right, today's show brought to you by All Family Pharmacy. Do not wait until you're sick.

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[Justin]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Justin]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Justin]

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[Elon Musk]

Okay?

[Dan Bongino]

Flaming Dragon.

[Vince Colonnaise]

Fuck face first, take a big step back and literally fuck your own face.

[Justin]

Now I don't know what kind of Pan Pacific bullshit power play you're trying

[Dan Bongino]

to pull here, but Asia, Jack, is my territory.

[Justin]

So whatever you're thinking, you better think again. Otherwise I'm gonna have to head down

[Dan Bongino]

there and I will rain down on a godly fucking firestorm upon you. You're gonna have to call the fucking

[Vince Colonnaise]

United nations and get a fucking binding

[Dan Bongino]

resolution to keep me from fucking destroying you.

[Justin]

I am talking scorched earth, motherfucker. I will massacre you. I will fuck you up.

[Dan Bongino]

Wow, how did you guys get that? Andrew, you got.

[Justin]

He's got better sources than me. I worked in administration.

[Dan Bongino]

I don't even know people. I don't know how that leaked out. Sorry guys, I'm not.

[Justin]

It's not. This is.

[Dan Bongino]

This is never meant to be. Like the comedy show, however, that was rolling around on X this morning. That is a clip, of course. Look at the Motleys. Everybody's breaking the Motley roll on that one.

[Justin]

We got six monthlys, 10 monthly's. That's not even a thing. Chat. Blow it up with the Motleys. We love it.

[Dan Bongino]

Yeah, had great. We love you Joe up there. Motley. The Motley Man. Yeah, that's probably that.

[Justin]

That's probably what it did sound like.

[Dan Bongino]

However, that was Tropical Thunder, the greatest movie cameo of all time by Tom Cruise. Thank you guys for putting that together.

[Justin]

But

[Dan Bongino]

on a serious note, even though I hate when people say that. How many times are we gonna go through this? Let me lay out for you very simply, guys. Ladies, please record digitally. Screen grab. I don't really care. Maga Kitty, we love you. You're always putting out my clips. You're fantastic. Everyone please save this. Okay? Bookmark this whether you like my show or not, cuz it's not about me.

[Justin]

It's about stopping you from having a

[Dan Bongino]

30 point blood pressure spike and having a heart attack. Donald Trump takes a maximalist position and

[Justin]

puts something out on True Social.

[Dan Bongino]

You think sounds crazy. Here's how this is going to go okay, everybody ready?

[Justin]

Jasmine, you taking notes?

[Dan Bongino]

Okay, good.

[Justin]

Here's Trump. I will negotiate with you on X.

[Dan Bongino]

X could be tariffs, could be the Iranians, could be the nuclear payload in Iran. I will negotiate on this thing.

[Justin]

I will come into it with an open mind.

[Dan Bongino]

He even talks about Kim Jong Un, a tyrant and a scumbag. He talks about Kim Jong Un and he doesn't shit on him in public. He says, listen, we've got a good relationship because he doesn't want to get

[Justin]

into a nuclear war. So he will give you, even if

[Dan Bongino]

you are a Tier one scumbag, the benefit of the doubt during negotiations.

[Justin]

Have you or have you not seen this in the past, folks? He does it with Putin. He does it and the media pretends to be horrified, do they not? I can't believe he likes Kim Jong Un. He doesn't like Kim Jong Un. He called him Little Rocket man and told him his nuclear button was bigger than him. Did you miss that, dipshits out there in the media? He doesn't like Kim Jong Un. It's a negotiation tactic. Do you even pay attention? If he liked Vladimir Putin, he wouldn't be providing weapons to Ukraine. It's a negotiating tactic. Pay attention. Try to keep up, media dip wads. Okay, step one, negotiate even with bad people, because the world shockingly sense the sarcasm is full of bad people.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not going to negotiate with him. He's a bad guy.

[Justin]

It doesn't work that way. Step two, if I do not get

[Dan Bongino]

what I want, escalate. If I have to escalate quickly, I will.

[Justin]

This is what Donald Trump does. He wrote about it in the book Little Rocket Man.

[Dan Bongino]

I've got my nuclear button.

[Justin]

Vladimir Putin better be really careful about what's going to happen next. We'll take out Moscow. Escalate quickly.

[Dan Bongino]

Rattle your enemy by escalating quickly because

[Justin]

it was unpredictable that you were going to do that. They didn't expect that. What did Mike Tyson say once? What's the best punch in the world? Tell me in the chat. The one you never saw coming. And you can never see which direction Trump's punching from. You expected a jab, he kicks you in the balls, you expect to be kicked in the nuts, he bites your ear off. He just is unpredictable. Negotiate in good faith, you don't get what you want. Escalate unpredictably, maybe intentionally, chaotically.

[Dan Bongino]

Intentionally, chaotically? Yes. You know exactly what I mean. Third, stake out a maximalist position.

[Justin]

We're going to wipe out Iranian civilization.

[Dan Bongino]

And then fourth, settle where we did this morning in a baseline position better than where you started in the first place.

[Justin]

No sane actor, even people who I

[Dan Bongino]

think dispute strongly Donald Trump's decision to engage in this war theater in Iran without weaponry.

[Justin]

No sane person can tell you, if

[Dan Bongino]

you were to put a beer in them when they're not lying for clicks,

[Justin]

that we are not in a better

[Dan Bongino]

position with the Iranians than we were before we started. Level one through six of the Iranian theocracy has been taken out. Their navy's at the bottom of the sea.

[Justin]

Their ballistic missile capability is still pretty robust, but it's been damaged significantly. Their drone factories, their leadership.

[Dan Bongino]

Can't even talk to boss.

[Justin]

Each militia doesn't even know how to

[Dan Bongino]

communicate before getting whacked.

[Justin]

There's no question we're in a better spot. Negotiate, escalate, maximalist position.

[Dan Bongino]

Resettle on an elevated baseline.

[Justin]

Are you writing this down? Media people, I'm trying to help you. You are going to wake up and have a coron. You're going to have a TIA or a full blown stroke if you keep doing this.

[Dan Bongino]

World War three.

[Justin]

World War three. How many? How many World War three. Do you guys know how numbers work? Justin, how many world wars have there been? 2.

[Dan Bongino]

Wow, you're pretty good at history.

[Justin]

We're at like World War 62 with these people. There is yet to be a World War three. The almost World War three that happened happened under Biden when Russia invaded Ukraine. You missed that. Negotiate, escalate, maximalist position, reset at a better baseline. Okay, you write that down.

[Dan Bongino]

Here's the media thing.

[Justin]

The media playbook. So Trump playbook.

[Dan Bongino]

Media playbook.

[Justin]

The media playbook. Trump isn't doing anything. Think about when the Iranians were protesting in the street.

[Dan Bongino]

You're like, what Was that, like 10 years ago?

[Justin]

No, it was like three, four months ago. The Iranians were protesting in the street. And what was the media that hates Trump saying? Trump isn't doing anything. I cannot believe he is leaving these people, hanging them out to dry. The Iranians, you remember that? You go look it up on X. You can see some of their posts. This guy's a fake, chicken, coward. Not doing anything for the Iranians. You can go look. They said this. So media playbook.

[Dan Bongino]

Step one, Trump isn't doing anything.

[Justin]

Then Trump does something, tweets out or

[Dan Bongino]

puts out on truth how he's going to wipe out Iranian civilization.

[Justin]

And the media responds. This mother is totally crazy. What a lunatic. This dude is insane. Step one, Trump doesn't do anything. He's a coward. Step two, Trump does something and what he does is crazy. This guy's a lunatic.

[Dan Bongino]

World War three, World War five, World War seven.

[Justin]

What is it? Is he doing it? He's not supposed to do something or he's going to do something. What is it then? Step three, Trump gets a deal like

[Dan Bongino]

he did last night. The deal gonna work?

[Justin]

I don't think there's high expectations, but

[Dan Bongino]

he's giving him a shot.

[Justin]

Trump gets a deal and what do they go with next?

[Dan Bongino]

Taco Trump always chickens out.

[Justin]

I thought 10 minutes ago he was crazy and he did too much. What it was, Which one is it?

[Dan Bongino]

I cannot believe.

[Justin]

As my mother in law would say, I cannot believe. I can't believe he bombed Iranian bridges. He's threatening civilian infrastructure, which by the

[Dan Bongino]

way, is being used for military purposes.

[Justin]

I can't believe he took out level one through six of the Iranian theocracy. So how did he chicken out? I don't understand. Chicken out, then chicken. How do you go now?

[Dan Bongino]

I get it, I get it. I got our good friend Vince Colonnades up later. I'll talk to him about this too.

[Justin]

I get it. You may say, Dan, you're correct.

[Dan Bongino]

They're not consistent at all, folks.

[Justin]

It's deliberate. The media wants to play stupid.

[Dan Bongino]

There are dumb people in it. You got the joy Reeds out there. I get it.

[Justin]

But there are people out there in

[Dan Bongino]

the media, I promise you, who are not stupid.

[Justin]

They know what they're saying is bullshit and they do it anyway. Trump isn't doing anything. Trump does something and he's crazy. And then Trump gets a deal and then he chickened out. Would this any of that make sense?

[Dan Bongino]

Here's a clip of Trace Gallagher on Fox. It actually starts with, I think it's Aaron Burnett at cnn, but he's covering it. And Trace, this is just about 30 seconds.

[Justin]

That's it. But brings up this exact point. This can't. Either you Trump is crazy in his negotiating style or Trump always chickens out when he gets a deal. Like you can't have it both ways. Which one is it? You were shitting on him the other day for taking this maximalist position on truth that he was gonna wipe out Iran. And then when he didn't wipe out Iran, you were complaining that he chickened out. Which freaking story is true?

[Dan Bongino]

Remember, the media always tells you a story, but they never tell you the story. Those aren't the same things. Check this out.

[Trace Gallagher]

There will be some who will call it, you know, Taco Trump always chickens out, which is making way too light of It. But it is also a truth, which is that he makes giant threats that he does not follow through on. So it's one thing for everyone to say, well, nobody wanted him to do this. And it's another to say that the word of the president of the United States is now something that people do not think that they can take at his word, that they expect it to be just a quick trading opportunity every single time.

[Dan Bongino]

Have they ever heard of negotiation? He makes giant threats, and they condemn him for those giant threats. And then when he backs them, oh, see, he didn't follow through on the giant threat.

[Justin]

Make up your minds, people. I don't know any other way to say it. Trace just summed it up in 35 seconds in the clip. You're mad at him for making a threat that led to a concession, and now you're calling him a chicken because the threat led to a concession, when you were going crazy about the concession, saying, we're afraid he's not chicken, and may act out the concession. If your head is spinning right now, it's supposed to rewind the tape, go back 15 seconds and listen to what I said in slow motion. Media people, just two days ago, the Iranians were saying, the strait will never be the same, never open up. We're done. We own. And now all of a sudden, it's not fully open. Let's not be dramatic, but there's traffic moving through again. You're telling me the Iranians didn't concede. Am I under any illusions, by the

[Dan Bongino]

way, that the Iranian demands, and some of it, that CNN stuff was a lot of garbage?

[Justin]

However, am I under any illusions the

[Dan Bongino]

Iranians are just giving up, and the Iranian mullahs are going to just forfeit

[Justin]

over 400 kilos of enriched nuclear material? I'm not.

[Dan Bongino]

We may have to go back in there, and there may or there may

[Justin]

be more pressure and there may be more maximalist threats. The bottom line to this whole thing is we have reset at a new baseline that is far better than where we started. And you pretending that's not the truth just makes you look like an asshole. I'm being honest and candid with you

[Dan Bongino]

about all of this. I love the president.

[Justin]

He's been a great friend to me. He was a great leader.

[Dan Bongino]

And he was a tremendous manager, too, to work for.

[Justin]

He was. But we have to be candid. The Iranians are insane. They're really crazy.

[Dan Bongino]

And there's a good possibility that the next two weeks they can continue to lob missiles all around the region. There's a good chance they could try to. I doubt it. But they could try to hide their nuclear material. That'd be a big mistake. We'd probably see most of it.

[Justin]

It's fairly candid, I think the Trump

[Dan Bongino]

administration saying the same thing, but for

[Justin]

the anti Trump crowd out there. And that includes, by the way, liberals,

[Dan Bongino]

media people and doomer Republicans always predicting the worst.

[Justin]

Can you just be honest with your

[Dan Bongino]

own audience and say, hey listen, we are in a better place right now. I think right now is probably a good time for an exit plan. If we need one final strike to make, put our point across, that's fine. But there's no doubt we're in a better spot.

[Justin]

And it should say something to you as well that China, the ccp, declared enemies of the United States.

[Dan Bongino]

They may put on a good face, but everybody knows what they're up to.

[Justin]

We're the ones involved in pressuring Iran to cut a deal too. Why would China, who hates us, pressure Iran to cut a deal? Because they're getting their asses kicked. Who?

[Dan Bongino]

The Iranians? Yeah, but I'm not talking about them.

[Justin]

I'm talking about China.

[Dan Bongino]

What do you mean China's getting their asses kicked?

[Justin]

Folks, who do you think provided Iran

[Dan Bongino]

with a lot of this military detection technology that failed miserably?

[Justin]

China. They have been humiliated on the international and global stage as a reliable military industrial partner. They get their oil, a good portion of it, from that region. We don't. We get a small sliver of it. If we lost.

[Dan Bongino]

And Trump Taco or this other bullshit,

[Justin]

if he lost, why is China telling the Iranians, man, please make a deal? Does that sound like a loss to you? Are you crazy? And by the way, that tariff post

[Dan Bongino]

he put out this morning about if you support the Iranian military machine, instant tariffs. What did it say? 100% just came out before it came on the air.

[Justin]

That was directed at China because why Trump?

[Dan Bongino]

Watch him, Justin. Watch him freak out again.

[Justin]

You believe it? 100% terror. I can't believe. Guys, please rewind the show. Please go back and rewind.

[Dan Bongino]

Negotiate, escalate maximalist position, Settle at a new baseline.

[Justin]

One more time for the idiots and the media. Negotiate, escalate maximalist position, Settle at a new baseline.

[Dan Bongino]

You got it.

[Justin]

You need me to write it down on damn Bogino show letterhead?

[Dan Bongino]

We don't actually have that, but if

[Justin]

we had some folks, their energy infrastructure is everything.

[Dan Bongino]

The Iranians.

[Justin]

But it's not just everything to the

[Dan Bongino]

Iranians, it's what funds their military theocracy. And their terror regime.

[Justin]

It is also everything to China and regional partners in the area who get a lot of their oil to power their economies from that region. Trump has the ultimate, pun intended trump card.

[Dan Bongino]

If he takes out Carg island and

[Justin]

their energy infrastructure, the Iranians, China and all of that. Those oil partners on the Iranian side that are doing business when I ran

[Dan Bongino]

for oil are screwed. Let me take a quick break and I'm going to show you what I mean on the other side of this break with a quick 30 second clip about exactly how bad of a spot the Iranians in.

[Justin]

Oh, the doomers told us we're getting our asses kicked. I'm really sorry you listened to them. I'm, I am, I'm really sorry if

[Dan Bongino]

you got suckered by them and you're all depressed depressed over a massive military victory. At this point

[Justin]

folks, as you know,

[Dan Bongino]

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[Justin]

That is their only economic key to survival.

[Dan Bongino]

And other countries that need that Iranian

[Justin]

oil, this is a huge trump card.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out.

[Senior Israeli Defense Official]

Senior Israeli defense official telling me just now the Islamic regime's greatest vulnerability is energy. They describe the energy system in Iran as the Achilles heel for the Islamic Republic because roughly 50% of Iran's GDP is based on their energy program. And this is part of the reason that the President is focusing his threats on the energy infrastructure inside of Iran. The President understands that when it comes to the Iranian regime, the two things that are keeping this regime afloat are their energy infrastructure that is used to funnel money to the IRGC and the weapons that are currently being used against US forces and allies across the region. And the oil infrastructure. And as Fox can confirm, overnight dozens of US strikes targeted Carg island, where 90% of Iran's oil exports are located. This gives you a sense that the United States is looking once again to send a final message to the Iranian regime. The President on Truth Social just moments ago sending a final message to the Iranian regime.

[Justin]

Yeah, he sure has. And certainly we were talking about an escalation of significance here.

[Dan Bongino]

And as you RW says in the chat, Dan, trying to explain logic to liberals may be a waste of time. Folks in the. Yeah, rw, I appreciate your comments, but you're right and wrong. Yes, explaining logic to people who choose to be stupid on purpose, which is sadly a good portion of the liberal progressive movement. They choose to be dumb. They don't want to be smarter, they don't want to be informed, they're not interested.

[Justin]

They could just go to an AI

[Dan Bongino]

app and check the data and find out they're wrong. Thank you. There you go.

[Justin]

Good, good call. However, here's where you're wrong. The reason it's not a waste of time. And the P1s, you know this.

[Dan Bongino]

I learned this running for office in a deep blue state. I mean a deep blue state.

[Justin]

When you're arguing or debating with liberals and you make principled, fact based choices, there's always a third party listening.

[Dan Bongino]

It's that person, not the liberal you're debating for.

[Justin]

That's what this is about.

[Dan Bongino]

There are impressionable third parties out there

[Justin]

who don't want to be stupid. I promise you a good portion. That's why this audience has stayed consistently large over 10 years. I'm convinced because we don't get into

[Dan Bongino]

current things and bullshit. But thank you for the comment. You're. You're right. Half right, folks.

[Justin]

This is who we're dealing with.

[Dan Bongino]

By the way, when the left was

[Justin]

busy yesterday, again, the intentionally stupid left pretending Donald Trump was guilty of a

[Dan Bongino]

war crime that didn't even happen.

[Justin]

It was a true social post and wouldn't have been a war crime to begin with. Attacking infrastructure used for military purposes is

[Dan Bongino]

not a war crime.

[Justin]

It's not a. You just made that up. You know what is a war crime? Using civilian human shields at military targets to get them killed.

[Dan Bongino]

Well, who did that? The United States. I mean, you know, the media said Donald Trump was guilty of workers.

[Justin]

No, the Iranians. There was an actual war crime. But here's video of it, by the way, in Iranian state media. You can look yourself. This is why I'm telling you, like the left wing media and liberals.

[Dan Bongino]

Rw, you're right.

[Justin]

They, you are correct about this.

[Dan Bongino]

That is a waste of time.

[Justin]

They want to be stupid. They could have just played this video

[Dan Bongino]

and been like, hey guys, Donald Trump is not really committing a war crime.

[Justin]

Keep in mind, he didn't even do it. What he said was going to happen. It may. But attacking infrastructure used for military purposes is not even. It's a war tactic. It's not even close to a war crime. They could have pointed this out,

[Dan Bongino]

but

[Justin]

they chose not to because they want to be stupid. They revel in stupidity. It's like pigs love slop.

[Dan Bongino]

Why do they love slop?

[Justin]

I don't know.

[Dan Bongino]

It feels good.

[Justin]

Like stupid. They revel in stupid because stupid just feels good. Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. I am so sick of this loser in Congress. This guy is an absolute zero.

[Dan Bongino]

Ro Khanna is a Democrat.

[Justin]

Fraud, fake, phony. Even if you're a Democrat, I'm telling you, this guy is a fraud. He was a huge censorship guy right around J6 enormous. Go look it up. Wanted everybody censored. And then when he realized that the winds were turning on censorship, all of a sudden he pretended to be some Democrat free speech warrior. This guy is full of shit. He's doing some media tour.

[Dan Bongino]

He got wrecked Yesterday by Martha MacCallum, by the way. Just annihilated on her show. He looked like a moron.

[Justin]

Here he is on CNBC just spouting total bullshit. Ro Khanna knows the Iranians still have nuclear material. He knows that. But he starts trying to credit Obama for the failed jcpoa, the plan of action, the bullshit Iran deal.

[Dan Bongino]

He's just lying about 97%.

[Justin]

Really? I don't care if it's 1% in a nuclear suitcase headed to the border in the United States. That's kind of a big deal.

[Dan Bongino]

No?

[Justin]

What's that line from the movie?

[Dan Bongino]

Was it the sum of all fears?

[Justin]

I'm not concerned with someone who has

[Dan Bongino]

a thousand nuclear weapons. I'm concerned with someone who only has one.

[Justin]

You get the point. Even CNBC is like, ro, you believe

[Dan Bongino]

the Iranians, like they lie about everything.

[Justin]

He doesn't believe the Iranians. He chooses to be stupid.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out. The enriched uranium is still buried underneath. We haven't gotten rid of it. Obama had gotten rid of 97% of that enriched uranium.

[Trace Gallagher]

But we don't know exactly what they were telling. Well, we know they weren't telling us the truth. We already know that from the missiles that they've launched.

[Dan Bongino]

We know that from other things.

[Justin]

That basically they've been lying all along. Folks, this is cnbc, okay? It's not Fox News. The CNBC host there is not some die hard conservative even she's trying to tell this imbecile. And rw, you're right. Like, arguing with this moron who chooses to be a liar and stupid is a waste of time. But the third parties watching this, the Iranians did not get rid of their nuclear material. They did not. Yes, Midnight Hammer destroyed their facilities, but the material is still out there. He knows that. He chooses to be stupid publicly. They've lied about everything. Their nuclear program, their ballistic missiles. He chooses to be stupid. But you don't. You don't. You wouldn't be here.

[Dan Bongino]

It's frustrating, it really is. Having to constantly course correct these idiots. And while fully understanding they could just do this themselves. We have this healthy, vibrant, robust Internet we didn't have when I was growing up.

[Justin]

Folks, I'm 51, okay?

[Dan Bongino]

I'm. I'm not young anymore. I'm not that old, but I'm not young.

[Justin]

I've lived a half a century.

[Dan Bongino]

We did not have the Internet when I grew up.

[Justin]

Remember folks? You remember in the chat, where'd you

[Dan Bongino]

get your sports scores in the morning?

[Justin]

The freaking newspaper where you turned on

[Dan Bongino]

the radio and you had to wait for the sports report to see if the Yankees won? When I grew up in New York, you didn't just pop on a smartphone.

[Justin]

There were no smartphones when I grew up. We had the ROTOR phone. Remember the rotor thing? But that's what we Grew up with my mother could dial that thing really fast. You choose. If you take these ridiculous Ro Khanna

[Dan Bongino]

positions right now, I want you to understand, liberals.

[Justin]

This is directed at you. You choose to be stupid. It is a choice to be dumb.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm going to go a little out of order. Justin. Sorry. I was going to put this at the end of the show, but I got to put it here. And I'll get to the Florida video too. It's. It's. I debated putting this in the show, but I promise we got a lot ahead that. Congressman McBride. Can you put up the tweet? This is what it looks like to be deliberately stupid. This is a different Congressman Sarah McBride. Congressman McBride says in a political career defined by grotesque statements, this president's horrifying, illegal and genocidal threat this morning is the most dangerous and appalling. She notes it's actually Congresswoman.

[Justin]

It's a man.

[Dan Bongino]

Right?

[Justin]

Well, he knows you can't shout fire

[Dan Bongino]

in a crowded theater. And the president cannot be allowed to threaten genocide with the United States military. And she goes on to some other bullshit about war crimes.

[Justin]

Keep that up.

[Dan Bongino]

Just one second. This is a congressman, a United States Congressman, just like Ro Khanna, who chooses

[Justin]

to be stupid because Congressman McBride could just go to the interwebs and actually look up if the First Amendment standard is can you shout fire in a crowded theater?

[Dan Bongino]

Put up the Atlantic article, please. I'll show you that first if you

[Justin]

really want a thorough breakdown of it.

[Dan Bongino]

The Atlantic's a pretty left wing paper, but this article is really good by Jeff Kosof. We've used it a thousand times. Hat tip producer Jim. I knew when he saw this yesterday because he just covered on the show. We'll put this out there. America's favorite flimsy pretext for limiting free speech.

[Justin]

Accusing people of shouting fire in a

[Dan Bongino]

crowded theater isn't sufficient grounds for regulating what they say. Now all Congressman McBride had to do because he chooses to be dumb is go to like Google Gemini or one of their favorite left wing AI generators

[Justin]

and just put in tell me about

[Dan Bongino]

for the First Amendment and fire at a movie theater. So I did it for the congressman.

[Justin]

The case is an overturned precedent, overTurned by Brandenburg vs Ohio, which set a higher bar. Speech can only be suppressed if it

[Dan Bongino]

incites imminent lawless action. While a hypothetical analogy, it was likely influenced by real life Early 20th century Panic events today the phrase is recognized as a misunderstanding of current First Amendment

[Justin]

law which protects most speech unless it

[Dan Bongino]

directly causes immediate panic or violence.

[Justin]

They could have just Looked that up.

[Dan Bongino]

The congressman could have just looked it up.

[Justin]

But we had to do the homework for them, right, Justin?

[Dan Bongino]

Because RW buddy, I love you, but there's a third party listening who I promise just learned something. You mean saying you can't shout fire in a movie theater is inaccurate when discussing the First Amendment? Yes. You could have just looked it up yourself. That's kind of like your job. I mean, know the Constitution and stuff like that. I mean, you're a congressman, right? It's true. A congressman is very confused about a lot of things. So. That is a very good point. So they. One of these days we'll do Justin open mic Thursdays or Fridays or something, but I may have to put the show on tape delay. If you only knew they choose to be dumb.

[Justin]

You have this amazing tool.

[Dan Bongino]

Look, I have it right here.

[Justin]

I have. Look, I have two.

[Dan Bongino]

I have the Dan Bongino show tablet, the Dam Bongino smartphone.

[Justin]

You can actually do this, Congressman. Look, it's right there on the desk with the lean and all the other stuff. You can actually go and look this stuff up. Do you understand now why.

[Dan Bongino]

So I was. I was chatting with a friend of mine in the commentary space. You all know I'll leave his name out of it because it was a private conversation, but we were chatting about my time at the FBI, and he said, you know, listen, I, you know, I appreciate you going in there. It must be tough to work in the administration, be so vocal as a commentator before, and then basically have to stay quiet while a bunch of assholes just lie about you.

[Justin]

And I said, you know, it was hard.

[Dan Bongino]

There's no doubt they still do.

[Justin]

Nothing happened.

[Dan Bongino]

And then you list out like 20 and 30, 30, 40 things that happen and they just ignore it.

[Justin]

You have to balance that with this

[Dan Bongino]

tendency to kind of over explain because then you sound defensive and believe me, I'm not. I'm extremely proud of what we did. I. And you guys can go look at them. I'm going to waste your time with resumes on the show. It's just bullshit. It is. It's. You guys are here for other stuff.

[Justin]

But I did say like, you know, you got. What frustrates me the most is you can actually go look this stuff up.

[Dan Bongino]

Like what happened while we were there. You can go look this stuff up.

[Justin]

But there are people out there who

[Dan Bongino]

would lie to you on purpose. Here's what I mean. Here's another. This guy I saw this on. Sometimes if I'm looking for material, I'll go through other News aggregators, especially far left ones. Cuz I wanna see the narrative they're

[Justin]

trying to put out there. Remember, the left always wants to tell

[Dan Bongino]

you a story, not the story. Those are not the same thing. A story is typically a BS narrative. The story is the truth. So I saw this yesterday on Drudge. It was a substack by Ken Klippenstein and it's about something we did at the FBI. I promise you I'm not going to bore you with a lot of. But this is important because this involves not just my time there, but this involves the future of the surveillance state in the United States. You should read this piece if you get a moment. Ken Klippenstein, April 5, 2026 exclusive. FBI's new political pre crime Center. Are your views on the list of domestic terrorism indicators Now? I kind of worked there and was the leader of this project.

[Justin]

You're like the pre Crime project. You had Tom Cruise in there again, just like at the beginning of the show doing the finger thing on Minority Report.

[Dan Bongino]

It was incredible.

[Justin]

We had the pre cogs, they all had names, right?

[Dan Bongino]

There were like three of them or something. They were floating in the basement of the Hoover Building where all the concrete's falling off the ceiling because lawmakers couldn't figure out what to do with the freaking FBI headquarters.

[Justin]

Yeah, we had him in the basement.

[Dan Bongino]

Of course, I'm being sarcastic folks.

[Justin]

What we did was we dismantled in

[Dan Bongino]

effect what was a politically driven left wing effort to weaponize the FBI and

[Justin]

to use like MAGA hats as indicators

[Dan Bongino]

of who to investigate.

[Justin]

I was there, you know, many briefings we did on this, we dismantled that whole thing. We got rid of entire chunks of the FBI that were doing that stuff and we did not make it a pre crime center. Ken Clippancy, I don't know who the hell you're talking to. We actually codified and made crystal clear that we are not targeting anyone for their. You're their First Amendment protected political beliefs. You're just off that this new FBI at least is not going after people who wear MAGA hats. So you use these catchy titles.

[Dan Bongino]

A pre crime center. Are you a domestic terrorist?

[Justin]

Because you put something in a Reddit

[Dan Bongino]

blog about how you didn't like Donald Trump.

[Justin]

Bullshit. You totally making that up. How many times I told you on

[Dan Bongino]

the show in the, you know, I don't know, three months we've been back.

[Justin]

Now that was my primary concern is protecting people's civil liberties. And I was very honest with you that there is a trade off there. You Want absolute security?

[Dan Bongino]

Yes. Have the FBI buy a thousand surveillance products.

[Justin]

We can just tap into your phone

[Dan Bongino]

with no touch malware.

[Justin]

I don't want that. And you shouldn't either. The downside to that is occasionally if people secrete themselves in society enough and don't leave enough footprints around and don't tell anyone they're gonna commit an attack, there are gonna be people that slip through. That's the hard truth. You want absolute security? Forfeit all your liberty. I'm not doing that. And that article is bullshit.

[Dan Bongino]

There's no pre crime center. Nobody's being monitored without a proper predicate.

[Justin]

You're totally full of shit. Show me a case where we just illegally started some investigation on someone because

[Dan Bongino]

they said, I don't like Donald Trump.

[Justin]

You can't, you're making it up. However, we had examples of people who

[Dan Bongino]

had done that before. Folks, this stuff worries me. I really am concerned about the explosion in surveillance technology.

[Justin]

I was concerned while I was, I was there too.

[Dan Bongino]

We put in hardcore guardrails against us

[Justin]

being able our federal government to surveil you. Why? Because there is going to be, at

[Dan Bongino]

some point in government, it's inevitable there

[Justin]

is going to be some change in leadership.

[Dan Bongino]

I hope it's not in the midterms,

[Justin]

I hope it's not in 2028. But pretending like Democrats will never get power again, ever, is not realistic. They will. And I worry about it because the guy who's going to run for president,

[Dan Bongino]

Gavin Newsom, his wife, who's become a total liability. You may have seen this clip.

[Justin]

These are what this is mainstream thinking on the left. Forget about her and Newsom for a minute. This is mainstream thinking on the left. That there are bad ideas out there that need to be censored. These were the people who were running the FBI and elsewhere before we made the changes away from the pre crime

[Dan Bongino]

stuff he talked about.

[Justin]

They will be back in charge one day. And I promise, no matter how many agencies you create, how many people you fire, they are gonna get new people back in there that think about censorship the exact way Gavin Newsom's wife does,

[Dan Bongino]

or the first partner, whatever she wants to call herself. Check this out.

[Jennifer Newsom]

Every problem that we have in society right now will be fixed when women come together and partner with our male allies and other allies. But when more women are in the rooms making decisions, changing the status quo and transforming not just our culture, but our society and our economy. I'll give you one example. Look at tech at Silicon Valley. Had more women been early on in those companies or at the tables of power making decisions. I don't think we would have so much or have allowed for so much sort of bigotry, racism, misogyny and hate online. I don't think that we would have the anonymity of it. I think that there would have been a. Ooh, that's unkind. That's not okay. You can't make money off of that. About dividing people, misinforming people, you know, belittling people, bullying people. I mean, again, think about who's the victims online. More often than not, it's women. Lgbtq, marginalized communities, women of color.

[Dan Bongino]

Hat tip the great Maze Moore for pulling that.

[Justin]

Folks, this is. Forget her for a minute.

[Dan Bongino]

Forget Newsom. I know they're easy targets.

[Justin]

I promise you.

[Dan Bongino]

Having spent a significant amount of my financial and political capital investing in free speech platforms, whether it's parallel economy or

[Justin]

rumble or elsewhere for people, frankly, many

[Dan Bongino]

of them, I addressed it yesterday with

[Justin]

Scott Jennings, who hate my guts. It's okay.

[Dan Bongino]

You're allowed to hate my guts.

[Justin]

I'll provide you a platform for doing it where you're safe to do that. I'll invest in a platform for you

[Dan Bongino]

to go and say whatever you want about me. I mean, listen, you can't break the law. You can't threaten like a terror attack or anything like that, but as long

[Justin]

as you comply with the terms of

[Dan Bongino]

service, I'm really glad that there are

[Justin]

people out there who can use these platforms where you don't have to worry

[Dan Bongino]

about people who invest in them, like getting their draws in a bunch of. And oh, we're going to.

[Justin]

We're not into that. That is the left. When they get back in charge, you better be really careful about the surveillance tools you give them.

[Dan Bongino]

Because, folks, I'm telling you, I lived it.

[Justin]

I'm not sure you have any idea

[Dan Bongino]

how powerful the technology out there is

[Justin]

to watch almost every single thing you do. You leave a digital footprint everywhere with

[Dan Bongino]

these devices you carry around with you everywhere.

[Justin]

Oh, I put it in airplane. Good luck.

[Dan Bongino]

We have important choices coming up, folks. Those choices are there and it is your choice. If you are a disaffected MAGA Republican who ignored the last year of the Trump presidency and you're one of these doomer people thinks everything is awful.

[Justin]

I don't know where you're getting that from, but even if it was true, it is not. You have a choice. The Jennifer Newsom censorship left crowd.

[Dan Bongino]

The Minnesota California Medicare fraud crowd.

[Justin]

The out of control government debt crowd.

[Dan Bongino]

The Ro Khanna Iran they got rid of their nuclear stuff.

[Justin]

They are choosing to be stupid. You have a choice. Please choose wisely. The Republicans may not be the solution to all your problems in the midterms, but the Democrats are the cause of your problems. I have zero doubt about that. Play the CBS clip. Do you know what this must take for cbs, folks? There's been some changes there, but it's still cbs. Ok, here is CBS doing a story on again, a massive, massive payload of fraud coming out of California because of a state run by Democrats insistence on stealing your money and giving it to people who don't deserve it.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out.

[Trace Gallagher]

Our ongoing CBS News investigation into fraud in the hospice industry. Our investigative unit found some potential red flags. One hospice doctor submitted claims for more than 20 times the number of patients the average California doctor cares for in a year. CBS News correspondent Adam Yamaguchi hit the road to follow the money.

[H]

The state of California says that if a doctor is involved with any more than like even just a few hospices, it is a sign of potential fraud. At the heart of the industry are doctors who are trusted to sign off on care. But in records for the active physicians caring for terminal patients, one stands out. A man whose name appeared on claims from 126 hospices and had 60% more in Medicare reimbursements than the next closest doctor in 2024, the last full year of available data. Dr. Rajiv Bhuva. My name is Adam Yamaguchi. I'm a correspondent with CBS News and we're doing a story about hospice. And we're just trying to understand how often he's here.

[Justin]

I didn't see him long time.

[H]

In a long time.

[Justin]

I didn't see him in a long time. That's weird. This guy's supposedly seeing all these patients

[Dan Bongino]

and managing the place.

[Justin]

How do you not see him in a long time?

[Dan Bongino]

How does that, does that work? How does that work?

[Justin]

It's cbs, folks. It's CBS doing this. I told you. Going forward, listen, bookmark the show.

[Dan Bongino]

The price of Democrat and liberal stupidity going forward is going to be very, very high,

[Justin]

folks.

[Dan Bongino]

The media ecosystem with again, Nick Shirley and Cam Higby and others out there

[Justin]

doing entrepreneurial, independent journalism. You've had o' Keefe doing it forever again. It's going to get really, really hard to pretend the welfare state works going forward. You're going to see outlets like CBS

[Dan Bongino]

and NBC and others that are going

[Justin]

to be embarrassed into covering this. Why? Because it's going to be so nuclear online that to not cover it is going to Be so obvious it's going

[Dan Bongino]

to result in a black mark even for these left wing activist organizations.

[Justin]

I promise you are already seeing it. You can't hide the welfare state. This is again what upsets me about a portion of people who pretend to be in our movement who constantly crap on the Trump administration pretending nothing's happening. There have been hundreds of arrests out of Minnesota.

[Dan Bongino]

There have been boatloads of arrests out of California.

[Justin]

Those are just the federal ones. So I saw circulating around online yesterday. Oh yeah, well, they're closing down a lot of these investigations. What are you talking about? The acting Attorney General, Todd Blanche just gave a presser yesterday and laid out the number of active investigations that are going on into this massive government fraud. What do you think the number was?

[Dan Bongino]

80? 100? 200?

[Justin]

The number he threw out to was 8000 when he gave a presser with Colin McDonald, the new AAG. Who's going to be in charge of

[Dan Bongino]

this JD Vance led effort on national government fraud.

[Justin]

Here, listen to yourself.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out.

[Justin]

The Department of Justice is holding criminals accountable for stealing over half a billion dollars from taxpayers. And across our U.S. attorney's offices all over this country, we currently have over 8,000 fraud matters underway. Unfortunately, as you've heard a lot about recently, because it's true, these cases represent a fraction of the fraud ripping off our country every day. Thanks to the leadership of President Trump. This department working closely with the task force to eliminate fraud, is supercharging efforts to take down every fraudster and bring them to justice. I don't understand. You think the Vice President, United States,

[Dan Bongino]

who, unlike border czar Kamala Harris, who never actually went to the border and did jack squat and Jack left town.

[Justin]

You think J.D. vance, a smart, savvy political leader who's been. This is his big job right now. Root out government fraud using the government's investigative capabilities and prosecutorial capabilities. You think J.D. vance is sitting on his ass? Nothing's happened. No, it is happening. You just talked about it. You're just trying to disenfranchise people before the midterms. I'm not going to let it happen. Thankfully, we've got an enormous audience to spread the word and even bigger audience online. You're just making that up. Folks, we can't continue to dole out money in wheelbarrows out the door to fake doctors, fake medical clinics, fake. What is it? Leering centers. Leering can't even spell learning center right. We can't afford it. We are in a really perilous national debt situation. And yes, both Republican and Democrat Congresses, the Senate, presidents, state level leadership when it comes to state debt have contributed to the problem. Don't at me, bro. I get it. You are correct. It is not exclusively a Democrat problem. However, the only person to do something about the exploding national potential bankruptcy problem through our national death has been Donald Trump. The only person is pared down the government workforce. He gave Elon Musk basically free reign with Doge to go and look at the government books.

[Dan Bongino]

We had a Doge guy in there early on, found a whole bunch of stuff.

[Justin]

We had some subscriptions to like magazine outlets no one had opened in years. I was like, how much is that? Oh, a couple hundred thousand dollars. Like what?

[Dan Bongino]

Here's Elon Musk talking about the extent

[Justin]

of the government debt problem. And I want you to pay attention to this.

[Dan Bongino]

This is important.

[Justin]

Our government debt, both on and kind

[Dan Bongino]

of off the books when it comes to entitlements

[Justin]

at our current gdp, we

[Dan Bongino]

are de facto bankruptcy. At our current GDP levels, we're never going to be able to pay it off. Elon's correct with the math, but he

[Justin]

brings up an interesting point I've discussed

[Dan Bongino]

with you many times. I hope you remember that if we

[Justin]

can bump our GDP growth up and

[Dan Bongino]

give ourselves a national raise, we can grow our way out of this.

[Justin]

Now, it's not so much a race

[Dan Bongino]

against the numbers, it's a race against time.

[Justin]

We have to get to this AI

[Dan Bongino]

quantum revolution where we get to huge growth rates before that day of reckoning comes and people start to call in the debt. Here's Elon explaining exactly this point. Check this out. What was the point of the Doge cuts if the economy is going to grow so much?

[Elon Musk]

Well, I think, like, waste and fraud are not good things to have. You know, I was actually pretty worried about, I guess, I mean, I think in the absence of AI and robotics, we're actually totally screwed because the national debt is piling up like crazy. Now our interest payments, the interest payments to national debt exceed the military budget, which is a trillion dollars. So over a trillion dollars. Just the interest payments, you know, that was like. I was like, okay, pretty concerned about that. Maybe if I spend some time, we can slow down the bankruptcy of the United States and give us enough time for the AI and robots to help solve the national debt, or not help solve. It's the only thing that could solve the national debt. We are 1000% going to go bankrupt as a country and fail as a country. Without AI and robots, nothing else will solve the national Debt.

[Dan Bongino]

I want to just use a quick analogy on this. If you were to buy a house and go into debt, like the United States is in debt, and the mortgage payments, you can only afford the interest payments every month. And then you start falling behind on that.

[Justin]

The interest gets piled into the principal, which becomes additive as interest payments start to pile up because the interest is being added back to the principal, you will never, ever be able to pay that house off. Unless what happens? Unless you get a massive raise. Elon is correct. AI quantum, massive growth productivity effects of that which you're going to start to see filter into the economy. If we can get there quick enough, will give us enough of a national

[Dan Bongino]

raise, we can get out ahead of this.

[Justin]

Because the numbers, I saw Dave Schweikart

[Dan Bongino]

put this up, this tweet.

[Justin]

The numbers, folks, are staggering. They are really hard to comprehend. He notes the national debt is 38 trillion.

[Dan Bongino]

Basically 39 trillion. The grow rate on it is absurd.

[Justin]

And then they, he quote, tweets, total

[Dan Bongino]

Gross National Debt 39. 39 trillion. Relative to one year ago, 2.77 trillion higher. Relative to five years ago, 10.9 trillion higher.

[Justin]

Folks, if we don't grow our way

[Dan Bongino]

out of this, there is no way out.

[Justin]

That is why these midterms are so important. At least you've got a guy in

[Dan Bongino]

the White House, right, that recognizes the problem.

[Justin]

And he's trying to, as Elon said, use things like paring down the workforce.

[Dan Bongino]

Doge cuts government efficiency enhancements to at least buy some time.

[Justin]

It is incredibly important that we do that and we have the right system in place.

[Dan Bongino]

You hear people crapping on capitalism all the time. I see these young people in love

[Justin]

with Zuran Mamdani and aoc, by the way, when they're on their, you know,

[Dan Bongino]

fancy iPhones with their Beats headphones and

[Justin]

run around like, where do you. Who do you think invented that? The Soviets. I get really tired of this, like, shitting on economic liberty and freedom. As if you ever grew up in a different system and have a comparative model. If you grew up in the Soviet Union, trust me, you would not be a Communist. There was an interesting piece in the

[Dan Bongino]

Wall Street Journal about this.

[Justin]

I used to bring this up years

[Dan Bongino]

ago because this happened in the Reagan era when the economy exploded.

[Justin]

People used to say, the middle class

[Dan Bongino]

is shrinking under Reagan.

[Justin]

And they were right. They were right. Dan, I thought you just said capitalism works. The middle class was shrinking during the Reagan era because the middle class were moving into the upper middle class and getting richer. They left that Part out. Oh, looky here. Jason Riley piece in the Wall Street Journal. It's happening again. I thought capitalism sucks. Riley notes, In 1979, the upper middle class was 10% of all families. By 2024, it was 31%. So yeah, the middle American middle class is shrinking because they're getting rich. Sure, those are just data, folks. To the young men and women who listen to my show, rw, this is why I put this stuff out there. Who listened to mom, dummy. Capitalism has failed. Everybody's going broke. Country sucks. The middle class is shrinking. It is.

[Dan Bongino]

You are correct. Because they're getting richer.

[Justin]

That's why you can look at the data just like I did.

[Dan Bongino]

You can go to Google, Gemini or your favorite AI aggregator.

[Justin]

You can look it up too. It's not hard. You just don't want to

[Dan Bongino]

because you want to be stupid. My audience doesn't want that. Let me get to this Florida video and let me just warn you in advance, even though it's been blacked out, the really horrific portions of this video, the video is an attack by a person who came into the country illegally, was given protective status. You know, put up the melusion tweet first, give you a little background. Probably do it that way. Better now. That way you're prepared. You may not be ready for this. If you're not, I understand. I have Vince Colonnaise coming up next, so if you want to take like a two minute break, I get it. The video is pretty horrifying and I debated putting it on the air. But folks, sometimes we all need a little shock treatment and we need to see the consequences of the actions of the Biden administration on the open border. The subject in this video, the suspect being charged with murder at a gas station in Fort Myers, Florida, bludgeons this woman to death with a hammer. Malujian notes the subject suspect in the case is a Haitian illegal alien who was caught and released at the border by the Biden administration in 2022. An immigration judge ordered the subject deported from the US later that same year, but DHS under the Biden administration shielded him from deportation by granting him TPS Temporary Protected Status, which expired in 2024. Brings back the point I made often that yes, not every single person who enters the country illegally, even though you broke the law, will go on to commit additional crimes because you committed a crime and you shouldn't be here. Period. Stop. However, you this individual in this video should not have been here at all. That's the point.

[Justin]

That's the point. Once we get control of the illegal immigration situation. The crime rate will drop. We do not need to add people to the country as a magnet for people, many of whom couldn't hack it

[Dan Bongino]

in their own country.

[Justin]

And some of them may be maybe fugitives in their own country. Here is the video.

[Dan Bongino]

This is really tough to watch. Yeah, I mean, folks, this is. I'm sorry to have to play this, but this is just. We can't just continue to ignore this stuff and go, I don't want to see it. Sometimes you just have to see it.

[Justin]

I want to bring up two quick

[Dan Bongino]

points on this, folks. Upwards of 75 to 80% of the violent crime. You see this guy now walking up, look, he can't believe what he's seeing. He can't believe he's looking right. He can't believe this is real. It's so horrifying. Upwards of 80% of the violent crime committed. I want you to remember this is committed by easily less than 5% of the population, closer to 1% of the population.

[Justin]

So say 1 out of 100 people

[Dan Bongino]

in a town commit 80% of the violent crime.

[Justin]

Here's the kicker.

[Dan Bongino]

Those subjects on average were arrested 8 to 12 times.

[Justin]

So this person, if he isn't caught.

[Dan Bongino]

Well, was he? We get it now. What's caught.

[Justin]

But if he wasn't, would probably go out to commit more crimes. Once you get rid of those people, your crime rate, just like we did at the FBI.

[Dan Bongino]

We had the best year ever on violent crime. It's just a fact.

[Justin]

Doomers. You could talk all the shit you

[Dan Bongino]

want, you're never going to get past that. We had the best year ever.

[Justin]

The murder rate was the lowest in U.S. history.

[Dan Bongino]

The crime rate dropped off the face of the earth because we targeted that 1%.

[Justin]

Why would you add to that 1%

[Dan Bongino]

by allowing lawbreakers into the country illegally at the border? Why? We have an immigration process. You know what it's called? The immigration process.

[Justin]

Why would you let people in who

[Dan Bongino]

are prone to breaking the law if

[Justin]

you know even a small portion of

[Dan Bongino]

them are going to go on to commit potentially 5 to 10 to 15 violent crimes? Absolutely unforgivable. I got Vince Colonnaise coming up in a minute. Going to take a quick break. You're not going to want to miss that. If you want to check him out, by the way, he'[e-mail] Vince every morning at 8am he's one of my good friends. And what we do is he comes on my show every other Wednesday and then I go on his radio show. We flip back and forth. I really enjoy his content. So throw up that I'd love to tell you what it is but I blew the ad thing off the, off the screen. So I don't know. You have to surprise us. Who is it here? Let's see.

[Justin]

Oh, Helix.

[Dan Bongino]

Love Helix. I. I was a good surprise. They gimme a little thing there. I got a good night's sleep last night. I feel pretty good today. You can probably tell by the energy of the show. Can you tell when I don't get a good night's sleep? It's rare. I sleep on a Helix mattress. So does the team inside. They love them. You know that feeling when spring rolls in, you suddenly want to fix everything in your house. Clean up the old spring cleaning folks. Start by engaging in the greatest life hack ever. You know what it is? Good sleep. No, I'm not kidding. You take all the supplements, everything you want in the world. The greatest life hack of all is good sleep.

[Justin]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Vince Colonnaise]

got to do it live. I, you know, it's funny, I think some of my radio affiliates across the country yesterday, but maybe were a little annoyed with me. A couple of our stations don't carry me live, they carry me on delay. But I said on the program yesterday, guys, the reason why it's so important for the content to be live is the news changes too quickly, Dan, you know, if you record something an hour before it airs, even that is perilous. That's like, whoa, wait a second. The news may change dramatically. This is just the world in which we live. It moves so quickly. Thanks to Donald Trump especially. You've just got to be live. And that's why I think it's so valuable. It's so cool. We can do this on Rumble, everybody.

[Dan Bongino]

Every day it is. And you know, Vince and I are friends, so we talk a lot, you know, not on the air, obviously. And we always mention this how the Trump news cycle. You know, I try to do show prep like you the day before, because it takes a long time. I mean, I do about an hour and 20 to an hour and 50 of content. It's always like, the rule is like times two. If you. And that's if you know what you're doing, if you know where to go for sources. If not, it can take six, seven hours. So you're talking about like four hours of prep, which is about right.

[Justin]

You have to do it the day before, but then you go to bed and you wake up in the morning and I get to the studio at about 8 o' clock and there's like five or six stories.

[Dan Bongino]

You're like, oh, shit, I missed this one too.

[Vince Colonnaise]

So I knew it was a day like this, Dan, because we knew the 8pm deadline was coming, right? So the deadline's coming, and I kind of had a hunch about how it was going to go. Actually, it went exactly the way I expected it would go, but that's because I've seen Donald Trump operate in the past. But having said that, I had prepared all sorts of content just before the 8pm deadline. I had everything I'd like. Here's what's coming next And I knew, I was like, this is all going to be blown up. What am I doing all this for? Because by the time 8 o' clock turns, we'll have a brand new news cycle.

[Justin]

Do you do what I do, though?

[Dan Bongino]

Because you don't know what's going to happen. Your show wraps. Your radio show wraps at 3pm so there's obviously a five hour gap between the Trump deadline at 8pm What I do is I'll leave a blank portion in the show in my notebook and I'll have like an if. Then if we do take care of business and knock out ports and bridges,

[Justin]

this is where we're gonna go. And if he does, like, I have to prepare a bunch of if then

[Dan Bongino]

equations, like It's a Commodore 64 from the 80s to do it. But you kind of segued into my first, unintentionally into my first question, which is, you know, we were kind of chatting about this a little before, how the media is just intentionally ignorant about this.

[Justin]

Trump does this all the time. If you have followed Trump like you

[Dan Bongino]

and I have for close to 10 years now. Yes, Trump negotiates.

[Justin]

If he doesn't get what he wants,

[Dan Bongino]

he takes a maximalist position.

[Justin]

You know, Armageddon read, 100% tariffs. He then backs off the position on a better and more kind of elevated, more responsive baseline than when he started.

[Dan Bongino]

There's no Iranian mullahs. Ballistic missile capabilities are damaged, drone capabilities are damaged.

[Justin]

He does this all the time. And the media pretends they don't know what he's doing because they want him

[Dan Bongino]

to look chaotic and basically disorganized.

[Vince Colonnaise]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's a combination of factors. One, there's like sinister people who clearly know the way this goes because they've watched the context for long enough. They've been around as long as you and I have, and they know how Donald Trump operates. Also, there's like, wet behind the ears idiots who are being elevated to positions in journalism where they shouldn't be. And because they couldn't get, like a better paying job, and they're doing this and they just don't know. They're like, oh, oh, my God, Trump's going to blow up an entire civilization. No, stupid. Let me walk you through this. In 2017, he's got a big problem with North Korea, right? North Korea. One of the big overriding themes of President Trump's concern, his entire presidency, every time, as long as he's been in politics, is nuclear weapons. The guy grew up during the Cold War. He Hates nuclear weapons. He says that forget global warming, I'm concerned about nuclear warming. So nuclear weapons are a big deal to him. Remember President Obama left him a note when he came in office the first time. His big overriding concern was the nuclear weapon threat from North Korea. So by the time we get to fall of 2017, President Trump's sitting in an opioid meeting and he says, north Korea, if you don't knock it off, I'm going to bring fire and fury like you've never seen before. The world has never seen is what he promised. And guess what happened after that? He mitigated the nuclear threat from North Korea. The nuclear testing dropped. He opened up historic diplomacy with Kim Jong Un. The media was freaking out during that entire sequence and the President kept his cool and he pursued it anyway. There were later reports, Dan, that, that, that President Trump threatened to bomb Moscow. He told Vladimir Putin that he was ready to bomb the capital city of Russia to get them to behave. And I've heard that actually from other sources too, that the President actually made that threat. So he's, he makes these threats because as you point out, he's making a maximalist claim. He's doing it in the service of a high stakes negotiation and he always taxed to a negotiated middle. So when he says he's going to blow up an entire civilization, you know, this guy, he cares about human life. The last thing he wants is some big power vacuum and more terrorism in the Middle East. He wants to settle up and he wants to serve the American people.

[Dan Bongino]

But on the maximalist position, he takes 100% tariffs. Civilizations are going to be wiped out in Iran, North Korea. My nuclear button is bigger than yours, you know, remember that one.

[Justin]

Like the maximalist position only works because you don't know if he's bluffing or not. In other words, like, let's say he

[Dan Bongino]

hadn't killed Soleimani, given the order to kill Soleimani, hadn't wiped out those Russian mercs on the Syrian battlefield, the Wagner group folks, back in his first term, if he hadn't won and ordered the military to swipe Maduro from freaking Venezuela,

[Justin]

if he hadn't engaged in Midnight Hammer

[Dan Bongino]

and these other Iranian war activities we've been involved in for the last four to six weeks.

[Justin]

The maximalist position would not be an effective debating or, excuse me, negotiation tactic. It only works because he is so freaking unpredictable. And when Putin here is like, hey, this guy could bomb Moscow. Moscow. Putin's probably sitting there like, is this mother, is he serious or not? Like, they don't really know. That's why it works.

[Vince Colonnaise]

You know, you're right. He's so, he, he, he'll start the fight, or at least he'll, he'll, he'll pick up the fight if it's somebody's fighting against him. He's a counter puncher, as you know. He'll hit you in the mouth a couple times and then you're like, wait, is he really going to finish me off? Is he really going to kill me right now? Like, I don't know what this guy's going to do. And I'll just give you a couple of really clear examples of this. Where's one earlier this week, Remember that big press conference he did and when he said that the, there was a negotiation underway. J.D. vance, Steve Wyckoff, Jared Kushner were getting closer with Iran. But suddenly these guys report back to the President, hey, Mr. President, they're walking away from the table, they're breaking the deal here. And the President says, that's fine, tell him it's okay. But then tell them, look out their window. And so they look out the window, he blows up the biggest bridge in Iran. So in other words, like, you know, there's this weird kind of fascination in the left. They really want Trump to be weak and broken. They think he's insane. They also think he's a coward. Have you noticed that? They wanted like, they basically every kind of terrible thing you can be. They ascribe to Trump and they, they've been accusing him of chickening out. I don't know if you've probably seen.

[Dan Bongino]

Yeah, the taco.

[Vince Colonnaise]

Taco, yeah. Trump always chickens out. No, actually the real trend is Trump always chokes them out. Trump always grabs whoever his adversary is and puts him in a choke out, chokehold. And by the end of it, they're tapping out of this, which is what we're watching Iran do right now. Yesterday's breakthrough in these negotiations is seismic. It's historic. The President achieved something that for 47 years was impossible. And he did it with high stakes negotiation and a very intense focus on the goal.

[Dan Bongino]

What's your take on the fissure within the Republican Party or the media? I think inflamed fissures within the Republican Party over war.

[Justin]

There are very few.

[Dan Bongino]

You know, when we have this Republican Party, you've been doing media, especially radio, for a long time. So you listen to callers and everything. We're not Democrats, we're not automatons. We have a real diversity of opinion on, you know, and we're all good on the Second Amendment, free speech, we get all that taxes. But when it comes to things like, you know, especially like foreign interventions and war, there's a good healthy debate within the party. You got the old school conservatives, you've got the libertarian wing, you've got the conservatarians, you've got maga, you've got the old Bushy crowd. There's a really diverse group of opinions in there, and that's a good thing.

[Justin]

But I think the media is really

[Dan Bongino]

exaggerating the fissures over this. Number one, it's only been a couple of months. Second, we're already in a ceasefire. Whether it works or not, we don't know, we'll see.

[Justin]

But if this was a prolonged war

[Dan Bongino]

like Iraq, which I think overall, you know, in the end there were some good things and some bad things that came out of the Iraq war, I think that would be correct. I think the fissures would be Grand Canyon, like.

[Vince Colonnaise]

Right.

[Dan Bongino]

But the poll data doesn't seem to indicate a really wide kind of chasm in the Republican Party right now. I think it's just the media trying to make that happen.

[Vince Colonnaise]

I think that. I think you're right about all of that. I think what's happening is that there are, as you point out, there's like actually legitimate debate that happens on the right, which I really enjoy. And especially the further we are away from an election, the more reasonable it is to have those debates in public. Because, you know, it's really about determining what does the future look like for our country and what do we all believe in. And then as we get closer to an actual election, you know, we gotta get our act together and defeat the left every time. But when it comes to this issue, the reason why there is a diversity of opinion is because, well, you experienced this at the FBI. We have institutions with crappy reputations. The reputations that they have are the result of their betrayal of the American people on a routine basis. So when you go in as Deputy Director, you're the inheritor of a crappy reputation established by abuses of power. The same is true with the military establishment in our country. People went through Afghanistan and Iraq, they saw the betrayals, they saw the power vacuums, the terrorism that arose from it, the loss of blood and treasure. And so our instincts are now attuned to say, I'm kind of against that. Reflexively, I err on the side of I don't want to be involved at all. So if you ask the average American voter, Trump Voter before this, if we should go into Iran right now, chances are they'd probably have said no. But here's the difference. They trust the President. The President made this decision on a rational basis. He decided that the nuclear threat was meaningful, that Iran was building a conventional weapons arsenal to basically create a security blanket to prevent anybody from stopping them from redeveloping their nuclear threat that he bombed last year. And he said, now's the time. This is our window of opportunity. We have to strike. Let's resolve this problem once and for all. So what I'm actually seeing in the surveys, and I think what you're seeing, Dan, is just a lot of trust right now. Basically people who are, who don't want to be in any sort of long lasting quagmire, which is the, the word the administration keeps using to describe what they're trying to avoid and that they trust the President a great deal. This is what we should expect from American politicians. They don't, you know, they should be able to, if at their best, if they're actually working for you, we give you the grace of trusting you to fulfill these missions. And I know the White House is cognizant of this. This is the reason why even today, Dan, as we're speaking, they're making a lot of statements to basically signal that they're done. This is it, they've met their primary goals. Now it's just a matter of working out some of the details with Iran. But the President kept his timeline of four to six weeks. They're very attuned to this. And I think this comes down to, to what extent do you trust the President to fulfill this vision?

[Dan Bongino]

Vince, your radio show is on and wmal, one of the biggest, most influential stations in the country because it's really the only solid conservative talker in D.C. so lawmakers listen to it cuz it's on their local radio. I know they do because when I was on the station they would tell me, hey, I'd get it from media people who are in the D.C. circuit too. Yes, it punches way, way, way above its weight. You know, DC is not a particularly large city, but I think we can all agree it's very important. Influential. I say that because, you know, what you say on the radio matters and I want to get your take on, on NATO. I had addressed this yesterday. My experience in, in the past year during the job I was in at the bureau there is, we produce. I'll undersell it a little bit to not be dramatic. Probably 75% of the value with our international partners on the law enforcement counterespionage, counter terror and certainly on the, on the warfare front, we're about 75% of the equation.

[Justin]

We're probably more.

[Dan Bongino]

But I don't wanna be dramatic. I've seen it and because I would ask for something and they can't produce it sometimes, but we can produce it back when they ask. And that was about 3/4 of the time. I think the American public is a little exhausted with international allies who become fair weather friends.

[Justin]

I don't wanna be dramatic.

[Dan Bongino]

I read a piece of the Wall Street Journal where they are providing some stuff behind the scenes. They just don't wanna publicly say it's.

[Justin]

But I think it's time that you're

[Dan Bongino]

either publicly with us or you're against us. And if we're gonna continue to take Americans hard earned money and become the global police force for Europe, that's got threats right next to him. We got two oceans protecting us. I mean that's not, it's not a silo, but it's a lot.

[Justin]

You've got Russia over there, you've got,

[Dan Bongino]

you know, China not far away, you've got Iran with ballistic missiles that can reach you. You know, it's time to act like it. You better start producing the money, the weaponry, the warfare and the public backing where you guys are publicly behind us or the American people are gonna be like, hey man, we're out, we're done.

[Vince Colonnaise]

I think Europe's just lost. I think they're rudderless. I don't think they actually know what they stand for. It's not even clear that they stand for their own people. We saw J.D. vance and Marco Rubio over the course of two years give speeches of different tones but the same substance, which is Europe needs to rediscover its history and recommit to Western civilization because if it doesn't, this whole everything collapses. I mean it really matters a great deal that Europe protects its legacy and you know, the popular, the civilization that gave us the Magna Carta. I mean come on, we need to restore that. And, and that's not there right now. There's, it's kind of a lost identity. And in that lost identity I don't think they even really understand what NATO's for. I mean once the Soviet Union, Union collapse they, they just thought that NATO was going to be some sort of rescue operation for them consistently and that they could just be a bunch of deadbeats. Now as I know you mentioned on your show yesterday, there's of course Examples, when it came to after 9, 11, we had NATO partners that were helping us. That's all very valuable, and it's the kind of thing that they should do, for sure. But here in this present moment, it has been just an atrocity that NATO hasn't stepped up to take care of concerns that are actually more immediate to them than they are to us. I mean, the Strait of Hormuzzi is responsible for so much of the world's energy. But fundamentally, most of that energy goes to that region. It goes to Europe, it goes to Asia. I mean, the reason China got involved, reportedly in the deal yesterday to try and get Iran to the table is because 40% of their energy comes through the Strait of Hormuz. That's what induced them to get involved here. And so it's just disappointing, actually. It's just I look at it and shake my head because President Trump has been fighting to strengthen that alliance, despite what the media tells you. He's got everybody there increasing their spending. Like the NATO secretaries general keep, like, absolutely praising President Trump for what he's done to restore that institution. And yet even in all of the work he's done to make it better, they're still failing to respond to us, despite the fact that we will empty our stockpiles for them. We did that. You just heard from Pete Hegseth. Say it. The unfortunate thing is we sent all of our weapons to Ukraine and now we're spending, you know, that. That big hundreds of billions of dollars package we just sent to Congress asking for more weaponry. The reason is because Biden emptied out all of our weapons for Ukraine and we need them now in our conflict in Iran. It's just. It's just crazy what's happening. And NATO should step up.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm glad you brought that up about China. I discussed that earlier in the show how China is actually pushing for a deal here to get the straight up. And China, no, no friend of NATO. I think we're all pretty clear on that. But that's just kind of strange. Like, you know, a de facto kind of declared enemy of the United States. The CCP is like, hey, guys, this would probably be better for the globe if we can get a deal done and our NATO partners. I don't know, man. I'm not sure we want to come public with us. It's so absurd. Let me switch gears a little bit. A topic that's always hot on the American agenda probably led to Donald Trump's 2016 election and was a real kind of firestarter. Immigration I played a video earlier in the show out of Florida. Horrifying video. I honestly debated even putting it on the air. But sometimes you just need kind of shock treatment for the audience. The part that's really unconvinced that illegal immigration is a problem. And I'm really tiring of this argument. Like, well, most of the people that come here illegally don't go on to break additional laws.

[Justin]

Fine.

[Dan Bongino]

Even if that's true, I don't necessarily

[Justin]

buy a lot of their data. But even if that's true, when one

[Dan Bongino]

person does, like, this illegal was protected by the Biden administration, hammers some woman's

[Justin]

face into, you know, causing her horrific, tragic death, like, that's enough for me. Like, if you told me someone had a nuclear payload they were going to

[Dan Bongino]

smuggle into the United States in a suitcase and they're going to come across

[Justin]

the border illegally, we would shut the border tomorrow. Like, this is the kind of stuff that happens when you let people in here who shouldn't be here. That woman should be alive.

[Vince Colonnaise]

Look, she'd be alive today if our borders were secure. Jocelyn Nungare. Lake and Riley. Stephanie Minter. The names go on and on. These are all people who would be alive today if our borders were secure here. And so what is the argument that the left is really making here? Like, it's just so insane, and it's insulting, actually, in a million different ways. One of the ones that they'll often make is they'll ally the difference between illegal and legal immigrants, and then they'll say something like, well, immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than American citizens. So what are you telling me? So even if I were to accept that as true, and it's not, It's. It's a lie, but even if I were to accept that as true. So you're saying American citizens suck more. Is that really your argument? The American citizens are worse. So what are you complaining about? That's another way of saying, we have enough of our own problems. Why do we have to import more? Again, it's entirely abusive. And the illegal immigrant crime rate is 100%. I love that the game is like, well, it's not that. No, it's 100%. If you break our laws, it's 100%. I know this comes as a shock to Don Lemon, who doesn't think that illegally entering the country is illegal. It's illegal, which is another way of saying it's a crime. It's 100% crime rate to illegally immigrate into our country. And one of the realities here is, in addition to just people pouring into our country for a million different reasons, we've discovered that a lot of them are here for very sinister reasons, unfortunately. So in addition to breaking that fundamental law, you come in and then you're hurting American citizens and you're stabbing them to death in a bus stop, you're hammering them in the face. How about no. How about we get you the hell out of our country? And my preference would be to deport you into the sun? If we can get Elon Musk to do that, that'd be helpful. We. I just. I can't take this anymore. I just. I just think it's insane. It's obviously the reason President Trump was elected in big margins. We got too big to rig. Mass deportation was the priority. And, you know, I. Nobody, you know, you know this, but I. One of the things that's been a source of great frustration for me for this whole Trump administration, is the lack of awareness of the level of success we've had on subjects like this. So this is a stark reminder of the problems that Joe Biden and the left have created for our country. But imagine how much worse it would be if we hadn't deported 3 million people in the last year. 3 million people. And you might be like, vince, we didn't deport three. Yes, we did. We kicked out 3 million foreigners of our country over the last year. Nobody wants to talk about it except for us. I'll talk about them.

[Dan Bongino]

How many more did not come here as a magnet because they knew they would be deported? Honestly, probably another 5 million.

[Justin]

So you're talking about.

[Dan Bongino]

I mean, I can't prove a counterfactual, but those numbers are probably pretty close. And I had addressed earlier in the show that when you do the criminology mathematics on this stuff about, what is it, 1% of the population or so commits about 75% of the violent crime, and each one of those people has been arrested, on average, eight to 12 times, meaning they're repeat offenders.

[Justin]

Obviously, they're doing it over and over. Why would you add another. Even if it's 1% of the 10 million people, why would you add another 1% of people that's going to go on to commit 8 to 12 more violent crimes, totally unnecessarily?

[Vince Colonnaise]

I mean, you talk about this a lot. I was thinking about you yesterday, actually, about this exact point, which I know you also talk a lot about Rudy Giuliani's efforts in New York to resolve this exact problem, which is like, look, we've got. It's a very small number of people who commit all the same crimes. Just arrest them. George Soros wants to release those people so they can kill more Americans. We want to arrest them and get them out of polite society so that we can have a nice world. I saw a video this week, maybe you saw it from President Bukele in El Salvador. He shared a, like a flyover video of a town square. And it's beautiful, it's like people hanging out, there's kids jumping rope. It's like colorful outfits, dancing, eating, festival. It's gorgeous. And a couple years ago that wasn't possible. El Salvador was a hellhole. Trash, gangs just dis absolute despair. And he's turned that country around on a dime. And the left, the global left, but the American left hates this guy. They say he's a fascist, he's out of control. But fundamentally, at his core, what has he achieved? He's restored order by taking that very small percentage of people that you're talking about off the streets, locking them up. And then when you get the bad guys out, it turns out the good people can actually enjoy their lives. This is not a difficult concept. He took the most dangerous country in the western hemisphere and by some accounts has turned it into the safest country, into the west in the western hemisphere. There's lessons in there. I'm telling you, follow the Constitution, follow the rule of law, but lock up the bad guys.

[Dan Bongino]

Yeah. And you know, I say to people to kind of hammer this home because, you know, people can avoid an assertion, has been told to me many times, but they can't avoid a question. Your brain just automatically wants to answer it. You know, I say to people all the time, you know, how many murderers or rapists do you know? And they're like horrified by the question, like none. Of course. I'm like, well why do you say. Why do you respond like, I don't hang around with those people, nor would I hang around with anyone who knows those people. Why? Well, because they're thankfully really rare.

[Justin]

Like that's the point I try to make to people like, you don't know a murderer or rapist. Cuz there's just not a lot of them. So when you get these scumbags off the street, people aren't getting murdered or raped or assaulted or burglarized. It's not. The math is not hard to figure out.

[Dan Bongino]

And when people used to do these presentations for me on, you know, felony apprehension warrants and stuff in our conference room, I was stunned at how if you went out and just grabbed the pocket of 100 people in Phoenix, Arizona, you could watch the crime rate the next month go down, you know, 5, 10, 15, 20 points. I mean, we saw it in Memphis. It's incredible. The numbers are just so on our side. If we just go and enforce the law.

[Vince Colonnaise]

Yeah. So before we conclude here, I want to compliment you on something you said yesterday, because I was listening with intensity to your program yesterday, and I heard you talking about the. The cost of the left. In other words, like, the way that. The way the left operates, they have to. They have to spend, as you, as you described, a ton of political capital in order to lie to the American people. Because the truth is just so prevalent now, thanks to social media, thanks to platforms like Rumble, thanks to shows like ours. And it got me thinking a lot. I've been obsessing over it for the last 24 hours. And here's what I was thinking. Not, do they. Not only do they have to spend political capital, they have to spend actual economic capital. They've spent a lot of money to lie to the American people because the truth is so free and so prevalent right now that they just have to overwhelm it. And there's a couple of examples of this, certainly this issue. In order for the American people to continue to betray ourselves and to, like, allow people to pour into our country and stab us to death or hit us in the face with hammers, you've got to be lied to. Like, you have to be lied to at astronomical levels. You have to live in the Truman show in order to become convinced of that reality. And so that costs a lot of money to operate the Truman Show. Meanwhile, the rest of us doesn't actually cost that much money to tell the truth.

[Justin]

Go to Gro, go to Gemini, go to ChatGPT.

[Vince Colonnaise]

This is how President Trump beat Hillary. Hillary spends a bajillion dollars to lose. Trump spends almost nothing. And he won because the truth prevailed. So when you look big picture, I'm telling you, Dan, I've been thinking about this a lot. I'm gonna think about this a lot going forward. Big picture. The reason why the Democrats have to spend, like, $40 million right now to rig elections in Virginia is because they have to lie about what they're doing. Meanwhile, Republican voters are showing up in massive numbers. Not because we have a lot of money supporting us. The reason they're showing up is because the truth has broken free and we need so much more of that. But really, when the truth is on your side, what a Great advantage to have that. And I just wanna thank you for putting that idea in my mouth.

[Dan Bongino]

Oh yeah, no, it's just such an obvious point you go to like Google. It's not even a right wing site. And I did it earlier in the show with this fire in a movie theater bullshit this congressman put out.

[Justin]

Like that's not a thing. All you had to do is put in. Like before you tweeted this out. You just could have asked. Is fire in a movie theater the first amendment standard? No, it is not. It's not hard. It cost me nothing. It cost me a half a kilo

[Dan Bongino]

Cal put my thumbs on the machine to tie.

[Justin]

I mean it's really simple. I gotta run.

[Dan Bongino]

Vince, I really appreciate it. Your show is amazing. You're crushing it. One of the top conservative podcasts out there if you wanna check it out. Rumble.com Vince.

[Justin]

You want to watch him live?

[Dan Bongino]

You should. Every day at 8:00am Eastern Time join his tremendous audience. You can watch video on demand anytime and you can catch his nationally syndicated radio show on a ton of stations around the country from noon to 3 Eastern time. Vince, I will see you on your show radio show next Wednesday and you'll be back here in a couple weeks. So thanks for joining us buddy. Appreciate it.

[Vince Colonnaise]

Thank you.

[Dan Bongino]

Good to see you too. That was Vince Colonnaise folks. You can also check out Haley at noon. Rumble.com Haley and as always, join us every single morning. Download the Rumble app. It is absolutely free. Join us at 10:00am Eastern Time for the Bongino lineup of the Bongino Inc. Lineup. We really appreciate your support and you can go to rumble.com bongino if you don't want to download the app and you want to watch on the web, that's fine. But either way if you click that follow button it's free. We really appreciate it. Thanks folks for tuning in. You know I love you all. I really appreciate the Bongino army. You've been there for me for a long time. I'll see you back here tomorrow at 10:00am hey there, I'm Vince.

[Vince Colonnaise]

I'm Haley Car Host of Vince host

[Justin]

of Scrolling with Haley.

[Vince Colonnaise]

You can always catch my show right here, right here on the Bongino Report live 8am Eastern weekday mornings, weekdays at noon.

[Justin]

If you miss it, no worries.

[Vince Colonnaise]

The show will always be right here and anywhere you find a podcast.

[Dan Bongino]

Thanks for watching.

[Justin]

It.