Madison Cawthorn (8:38)

You solemnly swear.

Haley Karenia (8:43)

That I will support and defend.

Madison Cawthorn (8:49)

The Constitution of the United States.

Haley Karenia (8:53)

That was POTUS reading out the military oath of enlistment to swear in new troops. He was alongside Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. And you could hear those boos there during that. It's so rude. And it just goes to show that liberals don't just hate Trump, they hate the country. If you can disrespect the troops are badass service men and women on football Sunday right before Veterans Day. And you can't put your Trump derangement and hatred aside for the men and women who had sacrificed their lives for your freedom to boo the president. By the way, then you hate this country. They are lucky to live in a country that actually protects speech and actually protects their right to be disrespectful. A holes Danny DeVito, he sat down with Larry King who asked him how he felt about President Trump. And wouldn't you know, everything is Trump's fault. Watch this. I gather you're not a fan of the president.

Danny DeVito (9:45)

No, I'm not a fan of the president. I just think, you know, you know, the whole idea of, you know, what we're supposed to do is bring people together. We're not supposed to separate people. We're supposed to be a strong country. Look, we've already, we're already walking on the boards of genocide. We've taken the land away from the Native Americans, we put them in prisons. What does this have imported? We brought African Americans into the country, we put them in jails and we put them in ghettos and we, and we bring drugs into the country and we do all these things. It's shameful. That's not what the sapiens are supposed to be doing. We're supposed to be make making life a better, like the world a better place for each other.

Haley Karenia (10:32)

What? What is he talking about? Genocide. There's genocide happening in this country. Who? What? Where? I swear, the left lives in an alternate reality. And I guess if you do truly believe that criminals don't belong in jail, like, these are the things that, you know, Zoram Namdani is running on or ran on in New York City and won on that. You know, if you break the law, it's no biggie. You, you know, we'll send a health care worker, a social worker over if you have a problem. I mean, this is how the left really believes. Like, criminals don't need to be held accountable, they don't need to go to jail, and that they firmly believe that illegal immigration isn't breaking the law. So I guess if you do believe those things and you live in that reality, then by those standards, I guess the Trump administration is just throwing innocent people in detention centers and deporting them for no reason. But you'd have to do a lot of mental gymnastics that are devoid of reality to make that make sense. And, you know, then he seems to blame the fact that we're on stolen land on President Trump. It's, it's President Trump's fault. Also slavery. President Trump's fault. He talked about drugs coming into this country. How is that President Trump's fault? The border was open under the last guy, not this guy. You know, all of these issues he's talking about, the slavery, the stolen land. This is all way before Trump's time. But of course, it's still Trump's fault. But that's okay. Facts don't matter. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good podcast clip. Of course. And here is late night host, soon to be former late night host in May, Stephen Colbert. He is saying that, well, this is what he has to say about late night as a whole, what the meaning of late night is. Watch this.

Madison Cawthorn (12:17)

I'm curious what you feel like the great affirmative cases for a show like yours.

Stephen Colbert (12:21)

Why should shows like mine continue to exist? Or like Kimmel or Jimmy or.

Madison Cawthorn (12:25)

And I said everyone plays with great affection, which is why I'm saying why.

Stephen Colbert (12:29)

Oh, we're like your friend who at the end of the day paid attention to the news more than you did, and you're aware of it. You just didn't do the detail work that we did. And then we curate that back to you at the end of the day. But it's really more about how we feel about it. I, as the person who met who, like, is the vehicle for that, how we felt about today, all those things that might have made you confused or angry or, or, or anxious or happy or surprised or something like that. I feel that way at the camera or to the audience, really.

Haley Karenia (13:06)

What he's Literally saying that he pays attention more to the news than any of you, any of us. So all of us stupid people, we need to tune into late night hosts to hear what they think about the news, what, who made them an expert. And don't you think it's strange that he's asked about late night and he didn't even mention being funny or telling jokes? That that should be the first thing that comes to mind when you talk about doing your job as a late night hose. Hey, I like to have fun. I like to connect with my audience. I like to be funny. I like to tell jokes. I like to interview celebrities. You know, I get that they have to wrap in culturally, culturally relevant news and politically relevant news stories in into their bits. But late night hosts have never been and never will be this moral and informational compass for the country and for all of us. They're supposed to make us laugh, and none of them are doing that anymore. And therefore they're being canned. Because if you want to watch the news, Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel are the last people you're going to. They're just the last people I'm going to. There are other news organizations and obviously people in the new media that people go to for their news. They're not going to late night for news. But here is Jimmy Kimmel's wife saying that a vote for President Trump is a vote against her husband. What? Watch this.

Jimmy Kimmel's Wife (14:36)

It's weird. I, when, when Donald Trump was first elected, I was so upset. We all were. But I remember thinking, I understand it because I grew up in a very conservative Republican house. I mean, I bought my dad a Rush Limbaugh tie in high school. I voted Republican straight ticket, and that's what I was told to do. And then I left St. Louis, Missouri, and I met people from different backgrounds, and I started to understand different things and different needs and different people. And so there's like a little bit of sympathy I have for people in my family that I feel are kind of being deliberately misinformed every day. And they've kind of, they are deliberately being misinformed every day and they believe it. But it hurts me so much because of the personal relationship I now have where my husband is out there fighting this man. And to me, them voting for Trump is them not voting for my husband and me and our family. And I, I, I unfortunately have kind of lost relationships with people in my family because of it.

Haley Karenia (15:48)

Oh, my gosh. Someone in the chat said, what a pretentious pos. And it is pretentious it just comes off so rude, like they're morally superior. And we had to educate people in our lives. We had to bring them over to the right side. F you guys, you know, then she says, you know, we had to. I started to understand different people. I got out of my, you know, conservative bubble. And this is fascinating to me that liberals vote on behalf of other people. I think voting is one of the times in life where you truly have free reign to be as selfish as humanly possible. You get one vote, right? If all things are going right in this world, you get one vote. Why would you vote for the interests of someone? It's. It's not your interest. Why would you vote on behalf of other groups that aren't yours? That doesn't make sense to me. Vote for what you care about Anyway. Then she talks about in this clip. You know, she grew up in this conservative Christian household. She bought her dad a Rush Limbaugh tie. And she's saying that, you know, with these government shutdowns, she was talking about how it's just horrible that all these Christian people are doing nothing. And, you know, Christian values are about taking care of the sick and taking care of the poor. And she claims that Republicans don't do that. The Republican Party doesn't stand for any of that. And my question to her, Mrs. Kimmel, is, why don't you do that, then? Why do liberals look at the government to take care of people? This is a massively rich woman looking at the government to feed people when she could feed people. And she's looking down at Republicans when statistically, Republicans are more charitable than liberals are. And certainly they go to church or another place of worship more frequently where they can get involved. But by white, rich, liberal women taking this stance, they say, you know, I'm voting liberal or voting against Trump. This is like the more morally superior stance. Like, see, we. We voted on behalf of all the dumb poor people. You're welcome. That's that pretentious attitude that I hate. Then she says that Jimmy Kimmel is fighting Trump every day, fighting Trump on his show. Again, you have to ask yourself, why is it that late night hosts think that's what their job is? Late night is actually one of the jobs where if you wanted to tune out politics completely, you could, and it would be encouraged. Because when the American people work multiple jobs to make ends meet, they're living paycheck to paycheck. They're inundated with bad news all day long. Sometimes people want an escape. And laughing at late night Hosts used to be that escape. It used to be funny skits and fun interviews with your favorite celebrity. And now people hate Hollywood because it's no longer a sit down with your favorite artist or actor as they promote their new project. It's these rich people lecturing the American people about politics. And politics is interjected everywhere. There's no escape anymore. And then these late night hosts wonder why people are turning their shows off. You used to be the lifeline for people. You were the life raft. When everything is going to shit in someone's real life. They get to turn on the TV at the end of the night and relax with their family and laugh and let off some steam. And now everyone's just miserable all the time. Who wants to watch that anyway? Snl. You know, like I say, there's a broken clock is right twice a day. SNL is starting to wake up. Like sometimes, not often, but sometimes they're a little funny. And I don't even think that this skit is that funny, but they are maybe waking up to the lunacy of this transgender ideology. Watch this. This is pretty serious. Okay? I got an email from the Greek life advisor, and apparently another sorority just learned one of their pledges was actually a frat guy in a hyper realistic garbage girl mask.

Jimmy Kimmel's Wife (19:45)

What?

Haley Karenia (19:47)

Oh, my God, that's so weird. Yeah, that is so weird. I know. Well, they asked us to just stay vigilant, okay? So I'm just asking you, if you see anything, just say something. Okay, so I don't want to, like, call someone out or whatever, but I think someone in our sorority might be a frat guy in a hyper realistic mask.

Madison Cawthorn (20:08)

What?

Haley Karenia (20:09)

What?

Jimmy Kimmel's Wife (20:10)

No way.

Haley Karenia (20:10)

What the hell? I think it's Alyssa. It's so gross. Wait, me? Are you crazy?

Madison Cawthorn (20:20)

So mean.

Haley Karenia (20:21)

Shame on you, Maddie.

Ana Navarro (20:22)

That's messed up.

Haley Karenia (20:24)

Yeah, what the hell? Maddie, have some respect for your sister. Who's the serial killer that wears the skin of his victims? Who is that? I don't know who that is. Ted Bundy? Did he do that? I don't think so. Wasn't there just a Netflix show on it? Is it Ed Gein? Is that his name? Anyway, that's what that reminded me of. This. This, like, man in a woman skin suit. Which is horrifying. And, you know, I'm glad that SNL is at least touching on this subject because obviously this is just them poking fun. But it is a very real and frightening trend of men identifying as women to get away with entering women's spaces. And the more that they can soft launch this to the liberals who watch SNL the better, because you have to frame it as, like, a women's rights issue. Like, all these sorority women are going to feel uncomfortable. But of course, in this clip, you know, the white liberal women, they just eat their own. Like, you know, everyone be on the lookout for this trans person that might be infiltrating sororities, and then someone says something, and they all attack her. But, you know, liberal women, we would probably sooner fight for trans men to get abortions than they would to protect women in bathrooms from people like this dude in Georgia. Watch this.

Transgender Woman (Library Incident) (21:42)

Restroom, the women's restroom. Like, I have been for months, if not years. Never had any issues.

Reporter (Library Incident) (21:48)

Sarah Swinson is a regular at the Tucker Reed Kofer Library. She says after she used the ladies room on October 20, a DeKalb police officer on hand for early voting confronted her.

Transgender Woman (Library Incident) (21:58)

He says, excuse me, sir. So misgendering me right away. You're not a woman. That's obvious.

Reporter (Library Incident) (22:05)

Swenson says she tried explaining to the officer that she's a transgender woman.

Transgender Woman (Library Incident) (22:10)

This is a police. There are women and little girls in there, and I have to protect them.

Reporter (Library Incident) (22:17)

She says it ended up causing a scene in the middle of the library, and she tried to de escalate.

Transgender Woman (Library Incident) (22:21)

Finally, I just nodded, you know, and he walked off, and I was very thankful.

Reporter (Library Incident) (22:27)

The next day, she emailed library staff, who she says reached out to DeKalb County Police.

Transgender Woman (Library Incident) (22:32)

The library filed the complaint on my behalf.

Reporter (Library Incident) (22:35)

There aren't any Georgia laws.

Madison Cawthorn (22:36)

Library filed my complain.

Reporter (Library Incident) (22:38)

Using bathrooms aligning with their gender identity. Decap. PD says its internal affairs unit is actively investigating the incident.

Haley Karenia (22:47)

Okay, I'm sorry. This is so disturbing. It's a man wearing not even women's clothing. But I do think it's very ironic that he thinks he's dressing as a woman. And, you know, anyone with a brain thinks that this is a man wearing a costume of a woman, and he is literally wearing, like, costume beads, like Mardi Gras beads. It's not even real jewelry. It's, like, quite literally a costume. It's quite literally a female kind of costume. And, you know, he's not even trying to really look like a woman. He just. It's a dude with lipstick and. And nail polish. That does not make you a woman. If I didn't have nail polish on or lipstick, I would still be a woman. But that's all they got right? And it's not just entering women's bathrooms and locker rooms. This next guy may just have been using women's clothing as a disguise while he steals packages. Watch this. So this is a cross dressing. Porch pirate. That's what we're calling it. And this dude is smoking a cig. He's in a dress, he's in a headband, he's got some long hair going, but not a very beautiful woman, I'll say that. Now he's going to go steal this package. Look, it's just a, it's just a woman. Don't be hard on. Don't be hard on her. Don't be hard on her. It's a woman. Give her special treatment. I mean, this is just absurd. This is what I mean by they're, this is a costume for them. It is a costume. They are dressing up as women as a costume. They don't believe that they're women. They know that this is a farce. But they wear their costume to steal packages or go into the locker room. They're sick. They're literally sick individuals. But I think I have an idea as to why liberal men are transitioning to women. It is because their own party hates them. The left has turned the straight white male into an enemy that doesn't deserve respect. Watch Anna Navarro on cnn totally disrespect her white straight man on the panel. Watch this.

Ana Navarro (25:14)

Also, I want to respond to you saying that I was hyperbolic when I talked about a reign of terror. No, it's, it might be hyperbolic for you as a white man. Oh, it's certainly not hyperbolic for me as a Latino. No, I'm not being racist.

Madison Cawthorn (25:28)

My opinion for being a white.

Ana Navarro (25:29)

No, I'm not dismissing your opinion. I am telling you that what Latino. The Latino community, The brown community in America. Okay, well, let me speak with my voice. I mean, you said I was being hyperbolic. Let me.

Madison Cawthorn (25:41)

Sure.

Ana Navarro (25:42)

I'm not. You being a white man as an.

Madison Cawthorn (25:43)

Insult when you invoke it.

Ana Navarro (25:45)

To dismiss my being a white man.

Madison Cawthorn (25:46)

As an insult when you invoke it.

Ana Navarro (25:48)

I use. I Do you think, do you, do you think Latinos are living under circumstances that other people might not be right now?

Haley Karenia (25:55)

Let me speak. Let me speak. Let me speak. That's like all what liberal women say. Let me speak. Let me speak. I'm speaking. Let me speak. And of course, if a liberal woman has to speak, then she trumps everybody else, certainly white men. But what they're arguing about doesn't even have to do anything with race. It has to do with documentation status. Republicans don't care what color you are or where you came from as long as you come into this country with respect for our laws and assimilate into the culture. Ana Navarro says that the Trump administration is responsible for this reign of terrorists, reign of terror, for enforcing the laws. And of course, it's the white man that can't have an opinion on that because he's white. It's total cop out. If you bring facts and reality to the conversation, their response is to shut you down by bringing up your race. And if you're white, you're automatically wrong. And they have the same stance, too, when it comes to abortion. If you're a man and you don't have a uterus and you don't have an opinion, unless, of course, you wear a dress and you say you're a woman, then you're top of the totem pole again. Quickly, I want to tell you one more story before we get into my guest, Madison Cawthorn, which I'm super excited about. California gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter. She is best known now for being a nasty woman. That's really all she's known for, just snapping at her staffers. She's just a nasty woman. We haven't heard that in a while, Right? Hillary Clinton ran on being a nasty woman. And, and now we've got another one. Didn't work for Hillary Clinton. Didn't work for Kamala Harris. It's not going to work for Katie Porter. People don't like, well, can I say the word? I don't know. I'm not going to, I'm not going to curse. But anyway, people don't like mean girls. But anyway, Katie Porter, she called on the Trump administration to cancel private jet flights and prioritize commercial flights amid the shutdown. Watch this.

Katie Porter (27:45)

Here's a question for Donald Trump as he forces airlines to cancel thousands and thousands of flights. Why is he starting first with the commercial planes that we all use to go visit our families or get where we need to for work? Every day, thousands of private jets take off carrying CEOs, billionaires, and the 1%. And they take up the work of the air traffic control system, too. Wouldn't it make more sense to cancel the planes that carry the fewest passengers first? It's just another example of who, who Donald Trump really cares about. And it isn't us.

Haley Karenia (28:21)

Yeah, she's losing the polls, by the way. That's how unlikable Katie Porter is. But I will say what she is suggesting is already being done by the Trump administration. Here is Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy setting the record straight.

Sean Duffy (28:35)

Watch a hack that's not what happened in the order we reduced general aviation or jet travel by 10%. But what we've also done is said, you know, if we have a staffing trigger, I think Nate was at LaGuardia or in Newark. We have one in Newark this morning. If, if, if we have a staffing trigger, there's going to be no jets flying into Newark. We're going to, we prioritize commercial aircraft now. If there's a space to fly in with general aviation or a jet, we'll allow them in. But the priority is the traveling public. And so that's been, that's been the order. That's been how this has been implemented. So it's nice political theater, but that's not what we're doing.

Haley Karenia (29:12)

Isn't that funny? She says Trump doesn't care about us. This doesn't by, you know, she claims that the Trump administration isn't canceling private jets. They're not prioritizing commercial jets. And she says because of that, the Trump administration doesn't care. Then what she suggested, the Trump administration is already doing. So, therefore, Katie Porter loves Trump. All right, taking another quick break before my guest. Quickly telling you about Gold Belly. Have you heard of Gold Belly? It's this amazing site that celebrates the best of America by shipping our country's most iconic foods from legendary restaurants straight to your door anywhere in the usa. It is perfect for hosting Thanksgiving without the stress. And with Black Friday around the corner, it is great time to pre order holiday gifts that ship right to their door. You know, I love Gold Belly. I have been using Gold Belly for years and I talk about this on my show, but I was going through a breakup. Maybe this is like two years ago and I was living in Nashville and all my friends from New York sent me New York bagels that I was missing so much on Gold Belly. And it ships fresh. It's right on dry ice. They'll ship you all the fixings, too. Like if you want New York bagels with lox and cream cheese, like, they'll send you everything. And it's super fresh. It's, it's just amazing. So I have so many great things to say about them. It's the kind of, you know, it's fast shipping, it's super easy. Everything arrives, like, perfectly packaged. And I used to be skeptical about ordering food online, but Gold Belly totally changed my mind. So if you're looking for that perfect holiday gift or you want to impress your friends and family with an epic Thanksgiving, go to goldbelly.com and get 20% off your first order with promo code Vince and that is goldbelly.com code Vince for 20% off your first order. Also want to tell you about Blackout Coffee, proudly the official coffee of all of us here at Silverlock. And there's a reason for that. This is bold, unapologetic America first coffee roasted fresh right here in the usa. This isn't grocery store junk. Blackout Coffee delivers rich, high quality roasts that actually tastes like freedom. And now you can get, you could set it and forget it with auto refill and recurring delivery. That means no more running out, no more watered down backups, just your favorite roast delivered fresh on your schedule. Pick your favorite roast and how often you want it delivered. Not only do you get a discount, but you also get double the rewards and free shipping to your doorstep. I love all the flavors. I'm a big peppermint mocha girl. And they've got some holiday flavors up on their site right now. So go to blackout coffee.com vince and use code vince that's V I N C E to get 20% off your first order. Whether you're into bold dark roast flavored coffee or even instant blackouts. Got your back. Real coffee, no compromise. Blackout coffee.com Vince, get yours now. And without further ado, my next guest represented North Carolina's 11th district until 2022. Now he's throwing his hat into the ring in Florida's 19th Madison Cawthorn. Welcome to Vince.

Madison Cawthorn (32:15)

It's great to be on Haley. Thank you for having me.

Haley Karenia (32:17)

Thank you so much. I'm so excited to chit chat with you. First I want to get to this government shutdown. You know, Democrats blame Republicans, Republicans blame Democrats. Last night we saw the Democrats finally, you know, eight of them finally come over to the right side of the aisle. What's your take on this? Do you think it's going to pass in the House? How long do you think this is going to last? When do the lights turn back on?

Madison Cawthorn (32:37)

So I do think it'll be able to go through in the House. But you know, just because we passed the bill in the Senate last night doesn't mean instantly will make it so that it can go through once you pass the bill through the House because the the House sent over a clean cr. So now that the Senate's pass it, it instantly triggers a 30 hour debate period. Now the Democrats could be able to waive this if they wanted to, but the Democrats, although they want to pitch this as if it's Donald Trump's fault over and over and over again. It's just because they don't have. I don't think they've ever taken a civics class. They don't understand that it takes 60 votes to be able to pass a budget, a budget bill through the Senate. And so we only have 53 seats. We're incapable of being able to pass this on our own. And the reason that this even happened in the first place is because Chuck Schumer is a coward. Chuck Schumer knows that if he was to do this, AOC is going to be attacking him very hard trying to take a Senate seat. And she's going to say, look, he is aiding and abetting Donald Trump, even though that sounds great to me. Donald Trump is saving our country, saving our republic. But Chuck Schumer is afraid of what would happen if he wasn't to shut the government down. And then they wanted to be able to pitch this as if it's Donald Trump's fault. But the poll numbers don't lie. You can see that everyone's blaming the Democrats for this. Donald Trump's poll numbers are actually going up. And while Chuck Schumer is just walking around the Capitol with basically zero staff anywhere in Washington, D.C. he's having to say, well, look what Donald Trump's doing. But everyone knows that it's his fault. Meanwhile, President Trump's flying all across the world, bringing peace to the entire planet. He is making sure that Americans are being put first, that our needs and our necessities are being taken care of. And so this shutdown, although I think that Chuck Schumer was doing it so that he'd avoid a primary against aoc, I think what this is really showing is that the Democrats have lost the plot. They absolutely have no plan. The only thing they know how to do is hate Trump and get Trump. That's their only attack strategy. But as we saw, Republicans won the popular vote for the first time in decades. And so this is not a great strategy. It's going to carry them through, through the primaries and through going into what's going to be the midterms.

Danny DeVito (34:36)

And.

Madison Cawthorn (34:36)

And now I know that we had a couple losses in Virginia, New Jersey, and in New York City, but I don't think that's going to be reminiscent of what's going to happen in the midterms. Americans all across this country are very happy with the job President Trump's doing. And now that they realize the Democrats don't care about them at all, they're simply trying to destroy the government to make Donald Trump look bad. But this is actually hurting real Americans.

Haley Karenia (34:57)

Yeah, absolutely. I need you to explain to me like I'm five, because you've been in Congress before. So there's a deadline. I don't understand why they can't just meet the deadline. If you think that this is going to be some back and forth that's going to shut down the government for 40 days, why can't they start these negotiations earlier?

Madison Cawthorn (35:16)

Well, really it comes down to political pressure. So the Democrats, what I think they were wanting to do is make sure that they can make Donald Trump look bad, say, look, this guy's trying to shut down SNAP benefits right before we go into Thanksgiving. And then they're trying to say, well, if Donald Trump wanted to fund SNAP benefits, then we would be able to use the emergency reserve. But the emergency reserve would only cover half of a day to take care of SNAP benefits for those all around the country. And so when the Democrats are shutting this down, they're, they're thinking that people are going to blame Donald Trump because they can assume that just laymen all across the country would probably assume because we have the House, because we have the White House and because we have the Senate, that this is Republicans fault. But I think the Republicans did a very good job of being able to message the fact that, that we do not have 60 votes inside the Senate. And it really shows what a different parallel economy we built over the last decade. Before, CNN would have been running this story non stop. But now that we have so many independent journalists, we have so many social media influencers, are able to get the message out to the masses even more effectively than legacy media, now we're able to get the truth out and people realize how ridiculous these people are and that they don't actually care about hardworking Americans like they claim to.

Haley Karenia (36:22)

Right. You know, we've been seeing some infighting on the right. And you know, during Trump's first term it was Rhinos versus maga. Then MAGA eventually split off because of differences on Israel. It seems like we're, you know, the pro Trump America first unity that we had going into the election might be dwindling a little bit and we are going to need to unite ahead of the midterms. Do you think that this is something that's going to hinder us at all or do you think that, that like you said, people are just so thrilled with President Trump's second term that they'll just, you know, vote red and down ballot?

Madison Cawthorn (36:57)

Well, I will tell you so the thing that I'm worried about is people will definitely turn out for the general elections. That's going to happen in November. But the thing that people need to realize is that just because somebody has an R next to their name does not mean that they are conservative, does not mean that they want to put America first. There's so many neocons, there's so many establishment Republicans that are still left around and they do still have a lot of funding. That's the thing. The main problem we're seeing right now is where establishment Republicans want to take this in a different direction. And so I cannot stress enough to the American people how important being able to go out for the primaries and elect people that are actually going to do what's best for you, not for the special interest groups or for the people in Washington D.C. that are going to get caught up in this. Now, the normal way people normally get elected is they will run for state house, they'll become a county commissioner, then they'll run for state house and they'll run for state Senate. Then they might try their hand at running for Congress. But the thing is, is that most establishment Republicans like this because it kind of grooms those politicians to know, hey, you need to go talk to the lobby first, then you need to talk to leadership and then you can go make a vote. Don't worry about talking to your district because the leadership knows what's best. But that could not be more contrary to to what's the reality is. Now, I really like Mike Johnson. I think he's doing a good job. But I will tell you that so many people that go through this political process of starting out very low as a county commissioner and our county commissioners are great as they're trying to go through, they do get groomed to understanding how the process works for people inside of Washington D.C. and how they should be going about things because they look, this is what the leadership wants. They want you to look to the leadership of the party first before you look to your constituents. And so I think people need to realize how important the midterms the primaries are going to be. Because remember, we could completely change this country with just 535America First Patriots. There are 535 elected legislators, 100 in the Senate, 435 in the House, and if you were to have 535, you could have a revolution overnight without firing a shot. You get people just go in and we have super majorities in both members of the of Congress and be able to actually make the change that Donald Trump wants to make. Did you See what? Elon Musk was in Washington, D.C. for the first six months of Trump's term. He came up with so many great ideas of how to get rid of all the waste, fraud and abuse that's going on inside our executive agencies. But the members of the House, even though we have so many more MAGA Republicans now, we really only have about 60, maybe 65 people who are truly America first in Congress. And that's why primaries are so important.

Haley Karenia (39:15)

Yeah, absolutely. We need way more patriots. Just you talking about that has gotten me excited. Like, I'm hopeful for the future. But what do you think will be the uniting factor for Republicans? Especially because, you know, President Trump's not going to be on the ticket anymore. I'm sure his endorsement will still, you know, move mountains, but at the same time, like, we need to carry this torch. So who do you think is going to do that?

Madison Cawthorn (39:38)

Well, I'll tell you my number one reason. So many people were really distraught about Mom Donnie winning in New York City. And now, let me tell you, New York City lost itself many, many decades ago. And it's been going down a more and more terrible route. But when you saw him lose this, when you saw Mom Donnie win this race, and these people just vote with their feelings, not with their minds whatsoever or with logic, I think this is actually going to be a really good sounding horn for the Republican Party going into the primaries and into the, into the general elections in the midterms. Reason being is because we have someone who's literally saying he wants to confiscate private property of landowners so that you can have state run housing. He's going to have someone who's going to try and create state run grocery stores. You have free busing, you're going to have free transportation underground in the, in the subways. And now this all sounds nice, but everyone knows that anytime communism has been tried anywhere in the world, throughout all of history, it has led to hundreds of millions, hundreds of millions of people being killed. It's led to the worst financial crises the world's ever seen. And it's led to people losing their very human and soul, the spirit that they have within them, because it doesn't reward any form of hard work, any form of innovation. And so I think that when Mom Donnie gets in, he's going to do so bad for New York City that I think it's going to be a great sounding call for all Americans around this country to be able to say, look, if we don't start fighting, if we don't Start electing people who can message well, who. Who can be aggressive out of the gate, who aren't going to be bullied around by special interest groups, but are going to fight for the American people. Then I think at that point, people are going to come out and vote because they're going to realize, I don't want to live in a communist country. I want to be able to go to work. I don't want to be capped on how much I make. And listen, if he wants to raise the. The tax rates to be ridiculous, let's say, I think what was floated one time, that if you make over $2 million a year, then you're going to be taxed at 98% after every dollar, after 2 million. And now $2 million is a lot of money. No one's going to deny that. But what's going to happen? Are these people going to continue working their butts off for the other eight months of the year? No. These people are going to come in and they're instantly going to say, listen, I'm hanging at the clock. Good luck trying to make money on your own, because I'm not going to be coming in to produce any. Any of my effort because I'm not getting rewarded for it.

Haley Karenia (41:45)

Yeah. You know, the scariest thing about Mamdani, it's that, you know, if you've got anything in between your ears, you know that all these things that he's pushing, it's a pipe dream. You can't get this done, actually. It's just. It sounds good, doesn't work. And the, the scary part is he's talking about issues that actually do matter to younger voters. This is why they've signed on to this bill of goods that he's selling, because it is hard for young people to buy houses. People are living paycheck to paycheck, especially in New York City, where it's. The cost of living is astronomical. And, you know, a lot of people our age and younger, they rent because homeownership feels like a pipe dream rather than the American dream. So, first of all, I will say he won because of white liberal women, which is crazy because he ran on raising taxes on white rich people, which, again, you know, I can't make sense of this because I do have something in between here. But for other people in New York, maybe they don't. And, you know, that's their prerogative. But how do Republicans package these kinds of issues that are very real for young people in a way that is actually feasible rather than just, you know, we'll give you everything for free because, you know, you deserve housing and everyone deserves this. It's kind of like a treat yourself mentality on the left. But these issues really do matter. So how do we package that on the right?

Madison Cawthorn (43:05)

Yes. So I think during the 2024 election and also the 2020 election, it was really about defeating the cabal or the deep state, whatever you want to call it. We're talking about permanent Washington, the people who are globalist, the people who are cared more about the concerns of the rest of the planet rather than what's happening here in America. But now that Donald Trump's elected, now that we're taking, taking control of our border, now that we're doing things where we're putting America first, putting tariffs in other country who've been taking advantage of our economy for decades and decades and decades. I think now we need to pivot our messaging to look more to the interior of the United States, to what actual Americans are having to face. And even if we have to go outside normal conservative doctrine, I'm willing to do that. Because if our economy does not work for the average American person in this country who's working, the muscular class, the people who actually make our country run, then our economy isn't an economy at all. It's just a Ponzi scheme. And so what I think we need to do is start messaging how are we going to lower housing costs? And that means going after the epa. The EPA has so many ridiculous regulations on home building costs and the actual products we use, whether it's the wood, the Sheetrock, whatever it is, it drives those actual prices of just building a home through the roof. And then when you start looking into how our zoning goes on in this country, we have so many people, so many places that have super high residential housing, that are owned by BlackRock and Blackstone, but don't actually have any of the attractions that want to make young families be able to stay in those areas and make their community better, I think we need to start attacking commercial real estate in a way that's going to make sense for the community, that's going to uplift the young families so that we have more children in this country, so that we can stand a chance in the next century. And what I think we need to do is we need to remove significant amounts of regulation. We need to find a way. And whether that means if you have three or four or more children, then maybe that means getting rid of your federal income taxes, whatever we need to do to make sure that people can have money in their pocket. And whether it's the man or the woman going to work, I don't really care. I think that we need to be able to create an economy where a family can be able to survive with a, with four children, have two nice cars, have a good home, be able to go on vacation to once or twice a year and do that on a single income. If somebody else wants to be able to go to work at the same time just for extra, that's totally fine. But, but we need to have a country where you can take care of your family on one income. And the only way to do that is to bring manufacturing back to this country to give more high paying jobs, to stop exporting all of our goods, all of our resources across overseas. And it also means that we need to stop importing all these ridiculous workers. Remember, the H1B2 visas are created for the best of the best of other countries. Not for call centers, not for people that want to come in and work at $3 an hour. Whereas in America could do the job better and be able to make a living wage that's going to be able to help them. And so I think we need to prioritize the American working class. And if that means. And listen, I don't want to get rid of H1B2 visas at all. I just want to use them for what they're actually intended for. And that's the brain drain. I want to take the best of the best from the rest of the world. If they're going to be able to be profitable and great citizens to this country and assimilate to our great values and the greatest country in the world, then I want them here. But I think one, we need to extremely go after very aggressively insurance rates on cost of home, especially down here in Florida in flood insurance is absolutely ridiculous. And that's because there's real no competition. That's also because we have too many regulations. Whenever government gets involved in something and tries to create regulations because they think it's going to be better, they're absolutely wrong. The American buyer, the American purchaser can make the best decision for him and his family and, or her family. And so I think that we need to give the power back to the people. Don't be bringing in these regulations that are going to pick winners and losers that, that then allow companies to make ridiculous price gouges on whatever they want to do. Whether that's insurance, what's the cost of building a home, whether that's being able to buy a car, whether it's the taxes you're going to face. You know, down here in Florida we're actually debating right now getting rid of property taxes, which I think would be a massive win for the American people. Because listen, if you have to pay the government rent to be able to own your home, then you don't actually own your home. And that's the reason why so many of our blue cities aren't actually conservative at all. Because this is where the reason they want to push everyone to live in a city one, it creates a generation of renters and they want to be able to say, well if you want to be able to afford a house inside of this city, then you're not going to need two incomes. And so here's abortion on command and you should have children later and later and later in life. And so then if you have a population of people that don't own any property, they don't care about what the financial outcome of the future is for their area, they don't care about what the tax rates are. And if you don't have any children, then you're obviously not going to care about the next generation or, or how your country's going to look in 60 years because you're not going to be around. That is what creates so many of these reckless voters who vote to say gimme, gimme, gimme. That's why Zoran Momdani won. I think we need to make it extremely accessible for young Americans to be able to buy a home, to be able to have a great job in whatever part of the country they want to live in and to where they can afford this on a single income so that we can have more children in this country. I believe family values are the one thing that creates more conservatives. Family values are what creates a strong country. And a strong country gives us a great future for the next 250 years. And so I genuinely believe it is the should be conservative's number one prerogative to make this country affordable for young Americans to make this country accessible where you can be able to get into the workforce. You had a high paying job and you are able to get great jobs without having to go to college. College is one of the biggest scams I've ever heard in my life. And if you start looking at what happened in Virginia, what happened in New Jersey, what happened in New York City, the reason these radicals were able to win is because all these college educated people were going out and they voted based on their feelings, not what's Based best for their country's health, what's based on their financial outcome, what's based for their spirit, what's based for their soul. So many people want to vote on what feels good rather than what actually does good. And I can understand the impetus. If you're a freshman in college and you hear, well, if we give just, you know, you go read Carl's Mark's absolutely ridiculous propaganda, then you're going to think, yeah, we should give health care to everyone. Yeah, everyone should be able to have a nice house and all this stuff. But what they fail to realize is that Karl Marx did not include human greed whatsoever. People will take advantage of the system. And if we can't go out and make money for ourselves and for our family, for create a legacy for our children, then no one's going to want to create or innovate. And therefore no one's going to have any great jobs. And things are just going to skyrocket in price. We're going to have bread lines, your life is going to be significantly less better, and we're going to start having to ration what kind of medical care we got. I had to spend $4 million to be able to survive a car accident I suffered when I was 18 years old for almost a year and a half in the hospital. Do you think that a government run or a state sponsored medical practice that Zora Momdani wants to be able to do would have said, oh, yeah, that's a valuable person, let's get that going? But no, because if we in America have no regulations, we see, see the promise and the spirit that everyone can bring to this country and therefore you can go out and make a difference for yourself?

Haley Karenia (49:42)

Absolutely. Do you worry about, you know, people who were living in New York, they're, maybe they're Democrats, maybe they're afraid of Mamdani. Maybe these are Cuomo voters and then they're going to come to Florida. Do you worry about New Yorkers making Florida New York?

Madison Cawthorn (49:59)

Yeah. And so, I mean, obviously I like Cuomo voters way more than I like mom Donnie voters. But it's been very evident for the last three decades, if you vote for the establishment Democrats like they have in New York City for I don't know how long, it leads to an inevitable end where people are just going to say, who can give me the most, who can take away from those that have and give to those who do not, because we don't actually want to work hard, that is going to lead to more Zoran Momdanis, all around this country. That's going to lead to an Islamist invasion of our nation. That's going to lead to people who, removing the soul and spirit and private property ownership and the right to bear arms, the right to freedom of expression, that's going to remove all of these rights that we hold hold so dear in this country. And so all I say to these New Yorkers who probably will be running is that if you're going to be leaving New York City, leave your politics at the Hudson. I also think, I mean, at this point, I think we need to have a. A little survey that you have to fill out before you move to some of our great red states. Because if you vote for what you fled, then you're just going to create more hellscapes all around this country. You're going to have high interest rates, you're going to have high taxes, you're going to have people who don't want to go out and work. You're going to have so many people on welfare. And listen, when I talk about welfare, when I talk about all these things, I don't mind giving a helping hand up to somebody who's been hurt. Obviously, I've been in a situation where I need a lot of helping hands. I was in the hospital for a year and a half. I couldn't speak, I couldn't use my arms, couldn't use my legs. But, you know, there was a system in place that was able to get me back on my feet and I was able to move forward. But when we create a system that wants to just give, give, give, it's just like when you go into a national park, it says, warning, don't feed the animals. Because if you feed the animals, they'll be dependent and we'll forget how to hunt. That's the exact same thing that's going on in New York because of all these Andrew Cuomo voters who decided that we're just going to vote for more handouts, more free things. And that's led us to Zora Mamdani. So I am actually very terrified of people moving out of those cities and making red states into blue states, changing our cities, making things the worst, getting rid of the rule of law. And so if you're going to leave one of those states, make sure that you go somewhere that you're going to continue to assimilate to what made that state great in the first place. And if they are not going to, I say, let's go ahead and just build one more wall right across the border of Florida.

Haley Karenia (52:00)

Love It. So you're running in Florida rather than North Carolina. When did you move to Florida? You're running for, you're running to fill Byron Donald's seat because he's running for governor. So who's your competition? How do you season this race playing out? Are we going to see Congressman Madison Cawthorn again?

Madison Cawthorn (52:18)

Well, absolutely. So I moved down here right after my election in North Carolina. We had a redistricting battle that went on and it gave me a very liberal city. So then I said if I'm not going to be a represent myself, I'm gonna let the second best congressman in the world who's probably the best congressman right now, Byron Donald's, be able to do it. So I moved down here about two or three days after I moved down, maybe, maybe a week we got hit by Hurricane Ian, which one of the best, biggest hurricanes we've ever been hit by in Florida. So I always say I was baptized as a Floridian. There's no better way to get to know your neighbors than delivering gas to them and just everybody banding together to make sure that you're going to be able to survive a terrible storm. And so I've been here about almost four years now and it's just my home. It's the greatest place in the world. But really watching how the community came together to be able to support one another is what made me fall so in love with this place. Also being on the water, everything's all hand control. So it makes me not feel paralyzed whatsoever. So I love this area, love this warm, warm temperatures. But I will tell you, Florida has got to realize that just because, and this is one thing that southwest Florida, down here in Naples and Fort Myers, that they understand very well. Just because somebody has an R beside their name does not mean that they're conservative, does not mean that they're going to fight for freedom, does not mean they're going to actually fight for you as a normal American. And so that's why I'm running, because I know how easily Washington D.C. can take these good, good willing, good hearted patriots and then turn them into permanent Washington. They can get them bought into the system, drinking the Kool Aid and they'll be voting against the interest of their people and they'll be voting for whatever interest group is paying the most money for their reelection. And so I'm someone who's obviously been to Washington D.C. i could have gone left, I could have gone right and just been led astray by either the leadership or by going to permanent Washington. But I stayed on the right path and obviously I was punished for it because, you know, Republicans leadership and the leadership on the Democrat Party, they don't like people that vote for themselves. They don't like people that are going to listen to their constituents rather than the special interest groups. And so they'll activate every weapon they have to be able to get those people out of office. You're seeing this happen to all the conservatives in Washington D.C. right now. And so I'm just wanting to get this message across. If you want someone that's going to lower the price of your food, that's going to keep the cost of gas down, that's going to be able to let your children, your children's children be able to afford a home and not have some multinational conglomerate buying up all the single family homes in America, you have to elect people that understand how to fight the beast, someone that have been there, someone who knows how to actually win in the face of extreme controversy and extreme adversarial opponents who are very powerful, very strong. But if you send someone up there who's just going to be led around like a puppy by leadership, you're going to get more of the same. And when so many people say, well, don't go to Washington D.C. because you know, you might rock the boat some, the boat is sinking. If we don't do something to save our republic now, and Donald Trump is holding the wall as hard as he can, but we have got to have America first patriots who are going to back him up and codify this stuff into law so that when a Democrat gets elected again, they can't just instantly roll the time back. And so I think it's extraordinarily important that people really look at the candidates who are running, figure out not just, okay, is that person Republican or is this person a conservative? They need to figure out who is going to fight for you. Because there's a lot of people who would actually go to Washington D.C. and want to vote correctly. But if you can't build a coalition, if you can't build a movement to be able to get a majority of Congress to vote with you, then it does no good. And so that's why I'm running, because I know how to be able to build a coalition. I know how to use the platform of being a member of Congress to be able to get things done. I know how to get things through appropriations, lead bills over to the Senate so that things can get passed and actually make Americans better and stronger. I believe in American. Hegemony we should dominate the entire Western Hemisphere. We should control all precious resources all around the world. If you want something done, you should have to ask America for it. I don't want an Internal Revenue Service. I want an External Revenue Service. I want the American people to be a special class of citizens all around the planet because we work so hard to and our Americans are so great and deserving of so much more than they're being given right now.

Haley Karenia (55:54)

All right, where can people find out more about your policies? Website? Where can people follow you?

Madison Cawthorn (56:00)

Absolutely. So madison cath.com or on any social media at Madison Cawthorne, I be honored for you guys to get involved. Honor for you guys to follow along. If you live down here in Florida, I'd love to have your vote. And if you're out of the district, I need some door knockers, need some people to come support. And if you're outside the state, you can't make it down. Your prayers are extremely appreciated. So hey, Haley, I appreciate you so much for having me on. It's been an honor.

Haley Karenia (56:18)

This was awesome. Thank you so much, Madison.

Madison Cawthorn (56:21)

Absolutely. Thank you.

Haley Karenia (56:23)

All right. I hope you enjoyed that conversation with Madison Cawthorn. We might see him back in the swamp. I mean, who would have thought going back to the swamp, you get out and then you want to go right back to fight for the American people. So we love to see it. Thank you so much for watching Vince. I know this is a little different, right? People aren't totally used to seeing me in the chair earlier in the morning. Morning. But if you liked this, you should watch my show later tonight, 6pm Eastern time. It is called Nightly scroll right here on rumble. Rumble.com Haley will bring you to the Bongino Report channel. That is where you can watch nightly scroll in full. Of course, if you are watching this long on Rumble, you already know where to find me. Bungino Report Channel. Make sure you're subscribed. Of course you can listen on Apple podcasts and Spotify. And I have got an interview tonight with Scott Singer. He is the mayor of Boca Raton, Florida. Florida. We're going to continue this conversation about how to make Florida great again, keep Florida great and not have these Mamdani voters and or people fleeing Mamdani come down and ruin this great state. So we're going to talk about that and so much more.