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It's Comey's Turn To Face The Music | Episode 81
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The FBI has officially referred James Comey and John Brennan for criminal investigation for the part they played in Russiagate. Dan Bongino might be having a little fun with this one. Also in this episode: Ketanji Brown Jackson gets scolded again and TSA lines might become a little easier.
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Vince
Hey there. Welcome to Vince. Good to have you with us today on. What is it? Oh, it's Wednesday. I've got a quick programming note for you today. We were expecting to have Russ vote from the Office of Management and Budget. And last night we got rug pulled by the White House. They said, no, it can't be Wednesday. Okay, so it's Thursday. We have Russ vote on Thursday. Here's the other good news, though. Senator Roger Marshall is joining us today on a very busy program. I've got a lot to get to. John Brennan, James Comey getting busted because of a conspiracy against the President of the United States. Could it be true? Boy, I hope it is. We're gonna talk about the details and why the FBI is now officially giving these guys the scrutiny that is so long overdue. As always, good to have you with us. Let's see. This show is brought to you by Blackout Coffee, the official coffee of all of us here at Silverlock. You can go to blackout coffee.com. vince. Use the code Vince. That's V I N C E for 20% off your first order. And I've got one other thing coming up on the program. We've got to talk about Alligator Alcatraz. We already have updates from the inmates who are being held there. It turns out they don't love it. Not huge fans. Not really enjoying Alligator Alcatraz, which I think, correct me if I'm wrong, chat. That was the point. That was the point. Deport yourselves, please, or else Alligator Alcatraz could be in your future. We've got all that coming up. Hey, what if you could delay your next two mortgage payments? That's right. Imagine putting those two payments in your pocket and finally getting a little breathing room. It's possible. When you call American Financing today, if you're feeling stretched by everyday expenses, groceries, gas, bills piling up, you're not alone. Most Americans are putting these expenses on a credit card and there doesn't seem to be a way out. 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We will talk about that. Also, Joe Biden's doctor, Kevin o' Connor supposed to be testifying today on Capitol Hill. Is it going to finally come to pass? Are we gonna get some answers out of the doctor? We'll see. Senator Marshall weighs in on that. He's also a medical doctor. He can tell us all about it. But let me first focus on this breaking news item from fox. Overnight. FOX News had this report that the FBI is now officially investigating John Brennan and James Comey here, which that strikes me as a very big deal. That strikes me as a very big deal to finally get this guy. These guys being investigated, former CIA Director John Brennan and the former FBI Director James Comey are finally under criminal investigation for potential wrongdoing related to the Trump Russia probe. Man, this goes back years. Trump Russia probe. This goes back to 2016 and beyond, including allegedly making false statements to Congress. Justice Department says so that's a huge deal. And it sounds like this is what they're gonna get these guys on, is their more recent lies on the subject. CIA Director John Ratcliffe referred evidence of wrongdoing by John Brennan to the FBI director Kash Patel for potential prosecution, according to the Justice Department. So this is where this starts. It starts with that CIA assessment which John Ratcliffe just put out last week. They just released this assessment saying, yeah, John Brennan lied about what he knew and about what he did. John Brennan told Congress that he did not push to include the Steele dossier. You know the Steele dossier, right? Chat. Remember the Steele dossier? Christopher Steele, this former MI6 guy who was hired by Perkins Coie, that's Hillary Clinton's law firm, in order to create a packet of completely false information about the President of the United States to lie about at that point, Citizen Donald Trump, Mr. Trump, at that point, they lied about him. And it was paid for by Hillary Clinton. And Hillary Clinton, as we now know in the public record. I'm not gonna re litigate every detail from you, because you're probably as encyclopedic on this as I am. But Hillary Clinton cooked up this scheme to distract from the fact that she was stealing classified information and keeping it on a server inside of her home in Chappaqua, New York. That all happened. That all happened. And the public record on this now is crystal clear. And at the very top of the Obama administration, you had coordination between President Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, FBI Director James Comey, and, yes, CIA Director John Brennan, all of them coordinating in cahoots with how are we going to take down Trump? That story has been told a lot of times, especially in conservative media, and thank God it has, because it's led to the developments that we've seen in the last 24 hours, that we now have confirmation that the FBI is indeed investigating a conspiracy that involves at least these two men, John Brennan and James Comey. And I don't know about you, but I have to say right up front that if there's anybody who's going to lead an investigation like this, this is the investigative component. We'll get to the prosecutions in a moment because this is, that's a separate question at the Justice Department. But on the investigative side of this thing, I am grateful that we have Cash Patel and Dan Bongino in position to conduct this investigation. I can't think of two better. So I'm glad they're there to do this because the work that they're undertaking right now, that's important, and the work beyond that for the United States Department of Justice to do, that better happen. I, I don't know. Chat. I know you're right there with me. I don't even have to consult the chat, but I'll look at it, I promise you. I want to get your feedback on this, but I'm tired of these things starting somewhere and then ending nowhere. Aren't you? Stop. Starting somewhere and then ending nowhere. Stop. We get an investigation, we get a probe, we get. The FBI doesn't do that. This is not some sort of mindless fact finding mission that the FBI does. They don't do this as some sort of consultancy. The FBI conducts criminal investigations. If John Brennan and James Comey are under investigation right now, and as Fox reports, they are by the FBI. They're under a criminal investigation. And what that means is that there is sufficient evidence to demonstrate that they very likely committed a crime here. And as a result, what comes next after you conduct the investigation, after you gather all of the relevant information? I need a damn prosecution. I need the United States Department of Justice to prosecute somebody. That's what I'm looking for. So as we begin this latest iteration of this process. I need prosecutions, baby. I need accountability, baby. The last thing I need is, well, we looked into it, and that's all we can ask. No, that's not all we can ask. We can ask for more than that. And so I'm looking for accountability here. That's right. Yeah. We don't want talk. We want action. We want action. Good. Okay. So here we go. So CIA Director John Ratcliffe pulls together all of this information, does a look back at the events leading up to the 2016 election. Finally, an honest assessment of all of that. The sources said that the referral to the Justice Department was received and told the Fox News Channel that a criminal investigation into Brannon is open and is underway right now. DOJ sources declined to provide any further details, at least in this original Fox News report. They say it's unclear at this point if the investigation spans beyond his alleged false statements to Congress. As for Comey, James Comey, remember 8647, the guy who would take seashells and put them together and post them to Instagram and then pretend like he just found them on the beach and that he had no idea what they meant? I'm just a big idiot. I had no idea what 8647 meant. I just thought it looked interesting. I wanted to share it on Instagram. Okay. No. You shared a message that called for taking out the President of the United States, and you wrote the message, you overgrown liar. James Comey. DOJ sources say that an investigation into him is also underway, but they did not share details of what specifically is being probed. The full scope of the criminal investigation into Brennan and Comey as of Fox News publication last night is unclear, but two sources describe the FBI's view of the duo's interactions as a, quote, conspiracy. Two sources describe the FBI's view of James Comey and John Brennan as a, quote, conspiracy, which could open up a wide range of prosecutorial options. This what this means, by the way, just to remind you, having seen a lot of these stories, you start to get familiar with it. What this means is this extends the statute of limitations issues that may have existed with any isolated crime that could have occurred in 2016. Once you get into criminal conspiracy, that really opens up your options to go after these guys, which means that the FBI is considering everything here, considering everything here as they go after them. So let's get into what John Brennan found Last week on this subject, John Brennan just put out a report, an assessment that absolutely torched both Brennan and Comey as the head of the FBI at the time. It was a couple days ago, July 2nd, so that would have been, let's see that. Well, two days before independence Day. So that, that means Wednesday of last week. The President has trusted me, John Ratcliffe wrote to social media, has trusted me with helping to end weaponization of U.S. intelligence. Today's report underscores that the 2016 Intelligence Community Assessment was conducted through an atypical and corrupt process under the politically charged environments of former Director Brennan. That's at the CIA. And former FBI Director James Comey. James Comey. And so in this report, what they establish is that there was a lot of debate inside of the intelligence community about whether or not that disgusting fake Hillary Clinton paid for Steele dossier would ever make its way into the intelligence community assessment at all. At all. And in the end, it did. And it did under the pressure of two specific groups of people. One was the FBI that was led by James Comey. Comey's FBI insisted that this unverified, unsubstantiated, and we know, full of garbage dossier be included in the intelligence community assessment to suggest that Trump was owned by the Russians, that the Russians, he was working with them. And that was garbage. That was complete garbage. The other person who was involved here was John Brennan. John Brennan. And let me take you to the actual report here because I think it's really, really important for us to see the receipts on this subject. Fellas, I'm going to zoom in a little bit so you have a better perspective on it. Here we are. So the decision by agency heads. This is the report that was just released by the CIA. The decisions by decision by agency heads to include the Steele dossier in the intelligence community assessment ran counter to fundamental tradecraft principles and ultimately undermined the credibility of the key judgment. The key judgment being that Trump was coordinating with the Russians. It was garbage. The authors of the assessment first learned of the dossier and FBI leadership's insistence on his inclusion. On the 20th of December. This would have been 2016, the same day that the largely coordinated draft was entering the review process at the CIA. FBI leadership made it clear that their participation in this assessment hinged on the dossier's inclusion. You understand, James Comey is telling the intelligence community the only way that we're going to be involved in this is, is if you include the Steele dossier in this assessment. And this is an assessment that was Released publicly just days later. This is in the transition period before President Trump came into office officially. This is completely corrupt, as you know. And James Comey is a huge liar, literally huge. And also just a huge liar. And so Comey was shoving the Steele dossier into this thing. They made it clear. They made it clear that they wanted in this. So the. The authors of the Community of the Intelligence assessment and multiple senior CIA managers, not Brennan. Multiple senior managers, including the two senior leaders of the CIA mission center responsible for Russia. In other words, the Russia experts strongly opposed the inclusion of the Steele dossier. Don't put it in there, they said. They said it didn't even meet the most basic tradecraft standards. The CIA's deputy director for analysis warned John Brennan on the 29th of December. That would have been 2016. That. Including it in any form. Fellas, push over on the screen here. In any form. Risked the credibility of the entire paper. Risked it. Despite these objections, Brennan showed a preference for narrative consistency. Brennan did over analytical soundness. When confronted with specific flaws in the dossier by two mission center leaders, one with extensive operational experience and the other with a strong analytic background, he appeared more swayed by the dossier's general conformity with existing theories than by legitimate tradecraft concerns. Okay, this is euphemism, what you're reading. This means Brennan was guided more by politics than he was actual tradecraft, actual fact finding. All he wanted to do was hurt Trump. So Brennan shoved this thing into the intelligence community assessment. James Comey shoved this thing into the intelligence community assessment. And John Ratcliffe, now the current director of the CIA, has now given us the clearest picture yet of what these two guys did in cahoots with. To try and not just stop the president during his rise in 2016, as he was running for office, but then subsequently to stagger his incoming presidency to prevent it from being effective in the first place. And, of course, trying to lead to his multiple impeachments. That's what Comey and Brennan were doing. Now, take you back in time. Did Comey deserve to be fired? 100%. Comey should have never been in that job to begin with. President Trump fires him early, and then, of course, the rest is history. Rod Rosenstein appoints a special counsel, the Mueller investigation begins, and the locking up of the Trump presidency is underway. That we know the history here. But an important perspective from John Ratcliffe on all of this. Now, I just want to remind you who John Brennan is. As the FBI is taking a look into him. Does John Brennan have a History of lying. You're damn right he does. John Brennan has lied a lot. Take a look at cut one. Let's go back in time. Tonight, at least one U.S. senator is calling for the CIA director to resign after the agency admitted today to spying not on a foreign government, but on our own Congress, improperly finding their way into US Senate computers during an investigation into the CIA's interrogation. Interrogation techniques. After 9 11, the CIA director was emphatic. In March, the CIA went into their computers and took documents out and were attempting to block their own investigation. The facts will come out, but let.
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Senator Roger Marshall
Me assure you that CIA in no way was spying on the SSCI or the.
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Vince
And he lied. He lied. That NBC report featuring a bunch of people who used to be anchors or whatever at NBC, they. He lied. He straight up lied the CIA was spying on the United States Senate, and then he would go on to lie about it. No, we weren't. We weren't spying. We weren't. Yes, you were. You were rifling through all their paperwork because you wanted to know how any Senate activity was going to affect the CIA. And sure enough, you were using the spying apparatus, which I should remind you, is dedicated in the CIA to foreign adversaries, not to domestic politics. That's how John Brennan used it. And then he lied to the faces of United States Senators, including Democrats like Ron Wyden and friendly media outlets like NBC. That's how casually he did that. So is this guy a corrupt jackass? Yes, he is. And he's been that way for a very long time. A very deceptive human being. If the United States Department of Justice is finally catching up to him, it is long overdue. So now these guys are both under investigation. And need I remind you about the long litany of lies and deceptions that James Comey has produced. It's not just taking seashells on the beach and then putting them in an arrangement to, say, 8647 to call for taking out the President of the United States and pretending he just stumbled upon them. Oh, shucks. Just found him. No, you didn't. It's not just that. It's also the lies that he told to cover for Hillary Clinton. The language shifts that he made when he established that, yes, she had stolen classified information, but that it didn't meet the standards for prosecution. He made this up. He was the FBI director. He wasn't allowed to do that. Your job is just straight up to investigate it, hand it off to the prosecutors, let them make a decision. He. He straight up Forgave her for the theft of classified information. That's the kind of deception he engages in. Remember, he provided a briefing, a briefing to President Trump about the Steele dossier itself. And then CNN published that that briefing was given as a way to suggest to the rest of the world that President Trump was made aware of the fact that we all know that he's corrupt, that he's corrupt. And that was done on purpose. That was done, as Obama officials later revealed, in order to give CNN the news hook they needed to publish these scurrilous allegations. That's James Comey. Comey, who would go on to meet with the President of the United States on multiple occasions, have conversations with him about whether or not he was going to uphold the law on behalf of the American people, whether or not he was actually going to do the job of FBI Director as he was supposed to. And he would memorialize all of his conversations, he'd write them all down. And then instead of treating a one on one conversation between the President of the United States and the FBI director as an official document, he pretended he lied about this. He said that they were private documents, which he then subsequently leaked to his buddy who gave it to the New York Times in an effort to try and take down the Trump administration. This is the kind of slippery, deceptive, Anthony Fauci esque kind of liar we're dealing with when we talk about James Comey. So again, if the law is finally catching up with these guys, it's long overdue. And we have the FBI now conducting a real deal investigation into their criminality. And as we see it, overnight, it's believed to be a conspiracy. As far as I can tell, it is. It definitely is. May the Justice Department follow suit? It's not enough for the FBI to investigate this, then we need the DOJ to prosecute it. That's what I'm demanding here, and I know you are too. Okay, thank you, guys. Great chat. It's just best damn audience in media. Really love you guys. All right, we got a lot more to get to here on the program, but some very interesting news overnight. All right, we gotta thank our sponsors. Pay attention to what's happening in New York City. You should pay attention. Where do you think the voters are learning that socialism is a good idea? A lot of them came from leftist controlled public schools and were probably brainwashed all the way through graduation. The stats totally speak for themselves. Millions of kids cannot read, write, or even do math at grade level, forcing colleges to dumb down curriculum just to keep enrollment up. Freedom Project Academy has perfected online learning for 15 years, offering live, anytime and homeschool courses for students in kindergarten through high school. 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Apparently, the illegal alien detainees in Alligator Alcatraz, they don't love the accommodations. It's not a, it's not been super exciting. They're not giving them five stars, you know, apparently the room service is not what they were hoping for. Here is an NBC interview with one of the detainees at Alligator Alcatraz. He's frantic because he says the mosquitoes in Alligator Alcatraz are the size of elephants. Take a look. Says he's been at the detention facility out in the Everglades since Friday. No water to bathe, he says it's been four days since he showered. 400 people he believes are inside the facility. Only gets fed once a day, he says, and some of the food had warms.
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John Brennan
Detention center lights are on 24.
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Vince
7. The mosquitoes, he says, are the size of elephants. Complaints.
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John Brennan
They're not allowed to go outside.
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Vince
And the tents are freezing. Wait a second. The tents are freezing. He's complaining about the air conditioning in South Florida. I'd rather have good air conditioning than just be outside. At least you got some good air conditioning. So that's the human rights atrocity. He's complaining about the air conditioning in Alligator Alcatraz. That's, that's remarkable. What kind of cushy life has this guy been leading? The mosquitoes are the size of elephants. You know, I'm enjoying the Trump administration quite a bit. I love These wins, despite what the President promised, I'm not getting tired of winning. That campaign promise has not come true yet. What I didn't anticipate as we've been conducting these mass deportations, is that we'd also be deporting the mosquitoes. I'm glad the mosquitoes are being held in the same detention center, Alligator Alcatraz. It makes a lot of sense, actually. That's a, that's a bonus problem that President Trump is apparently solving. They've got mosquitoes there, too. They've. We're deporting the mosquitoes as well. Hilarious. I. The mosquitoes are the size of elephants. Well, good. I've got a really easy solution for you. If you don't want to spend your time being deported with mosquitoes and Alligator Alcatraz, just get the hell out. Just take the Trump administration up on their offer. They. They told you. They told you you could go. They'll even pay for it. Isn't that wild? When I say they, that means us. We'll pay for it. We'll pay for you to leave. That's how generous we are. You know, even with your bleached hair and your craziness and your inability to speak English over the phone and the fact that you hate air conditioning, even with all of those particular problems, we'll pay to get you out of the country. And then when you do, we'll even give you a thousand bucks. How's that? That's a guaranteed win. You don't even get that on a scratch off lottery ticket. You know, a thousand bucks, pretty nice. You can go. You should have done it, and now you got to do it the hard way. So let that be a lesson to everybody else. If you're here illegally, go home. Go home. You want to go to Alligator Alcatraz, you want to wrestle with the elephant sized mosquitoes, you want to look for the thermostat so you can adjust it to make it a little bit warmer than the apparently freezing Alligator Alcatraz tents. Come on, Just go home. Just go home. So a good lesson there. Good update from Alligator Alcatraz. And I don't think NBC realizes the public service that they're doing here. You know, NBC is doing that report because they want you to think that this is cruel and unusual. This is awful, this is inhumane, what's going on. Except all I'm seeing is free advertising. I'm seeing earned media. That's what we call it in the press, earned media, where you're just getting. It's just a Freebie. The Trump administration didn't even have to pay for that. They just had that guy in custody. NBC calls him and they create an entire news package warning people that they should get out of the country before they end up in Alligator Alcatraz. Honestly couldn't ask for a better arrangement other than also deporting the mosquitoes. Thank you, President Trump. Thank you for doing that. That's it. What an amazing sequence of events. Also yesterday we got some updates on China purchasing American farmland. China purchasing American farmland. That is a massive deal. The Trump administration is now finally confronting this thing and they had everybody show up yesterday for the announcement. Brooke Rollins is the Agriculture Secretary. She showed up for this thing. Of course, that's her job. You had also Pam Bondi, head of the Department of Justice, Kristi Noem, the head of Homeland Security, and you had the head of the Pentagon, Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of Defense, show up as well, all saying, we are putting an end to China buying up all of the farmland around American military bases. And they've been doing quite a bit of this, Quite a bit of this. In fact, the, the New York Post put together a map showing what this looks like. I want to give you a perspective on this. Let me see here. Here's a map from the New York Post. It. Fellas, if we could just zoom in on this. Chinese owned farmland in America. In America. And it is all around America's most important military bases. All of the red that you're seeing, if you're watching the video podcast, all of the red around these facilities. And this is from years ago. This is, since then, it's, it's gotten even worse than that. You can also see some of the, the bases have the old names. They've since been changed back by the Trump administration. That's wonderful. But, but that's the key. So you've got China buying up all these critical military bases, critical land rather around these military bases. And as a result, national security officials are warning that they're able to do all sorts of intelligence and surveillance and reconnaissance from there isr from there on America's military bases. That's completely unacceptable. And so the Trump administration is tackling that. Here's Brooke Rollins yesterday, cut four, saying, yeah, this can't happen anymore. This is a massive national security issue. Take a look.
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Brooke Rollins
See, the yellow is where all of the farms have been purchased over the last number of years. And the red is around all of the military bases where that farmland has been purchased. So this is a massive national security issue. The press Conference this morning included three of our greatest governors as as well, Sarah Sanders from Arkansas, Jim Pillen from Nebraska, and Bill Lee from Tennessee. The states have begun taking a leadership role to ban the purchasing of China farmland. Obviously, Congress needs to step up and catch up and we're going to be working alongside of them as well. We have some great members of Congress there.
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Vince
Yeah. Speaking of members of Congress to work alongside, my next guest is doing that very thing. We'll get to him in just a moment. That's Kansas Senator Roger Marshall. Looking forward to our conversation on that subject and a lot more. Hold tight. More ahead on Vince. Before we get there, I got to thank our sponsors. Blackout coffee is a great sponsor of this program. The owner of Blackout Coffee, a fellow called John, he's a great American. He's the real deal and he built blackout coffee from the ground up. They don't compromise on quality or values. It's America first coffee. Where's my coffee? Right here. My blackout. It's roasted fresh right here in the United States. No woke nonsense. Just bold, strong coffee for people who actually get stuff done. And as you know, blackout coffee has been the official coffee of everybody here at Silverlock. So look, this is a brand that stands for the right values and clearly loves America. And I love them because they make a great cup of coffee. It's wonderful and I start my day with it and you should too. And here's the deal. John is hooking you up. Head over to blackout coffee.com Vince use the code Vince. That's V I, N C E and you'll get 20% off your first order. Get that delicious cup of coffee. Whether you like whole bean, ground or even instant coffee that doesn't suck, Blackout coffee has you covered. Support a company that shares your values. Blackoutcoffee.com Vince use the code Vince for 20% off your first order. Blackout coffee. Thank you, Blackout for being a great sponsor of the program and also Bone charge. Bone Charge is great. In my house, I've got the sauna blanket. My wife has the red light face mask. And these products have been life changing for both of us. Now that sauna blanket really gave me something I never had before. I didn't have a sauna at home. Now I have a sauna blanket and it helps with muscle recovery, detoxification. It's a huge game changer for me. It's very easy to use. I can just wrap myself up, let the infrared heat work its magic and it's created a real difference in how I relax and I rejuvenate and how I feel afterward. And Allison loves the red light face mask because she puts that thing on at night. It works great for her. The product improves your skin's texture, it reduces inflammation, it's created fantastic results, and it's like having a mini spot treatment right inside your house. So if you're thinking about trying either of these things out, you're in luck. Head to bonecharge.com, use the code Vince at checkout. Get 15% off. Both of these products have made a huge impact on us, on our lives. I'm sure you're going to love them, too. Use the code vince@bonecharge.com and save 15%. These statements and products have not been evaluated by the fda. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or condition. All right, here we go. You ready chat. You ready for Roger Marshall? Want to chat with the senator? Let's do that. Senator, Roger Marshall joins us now. He's from the great state of Kansas, and he's on Vince with us. Senator, good to see you.
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Senator Roger Marshall
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Vince
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Senator Roger Marshall
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Vince
This is. I knew. I knew there were so many other reasons for me to like you and those among them. Okay, Senator Marshall, American farmland. We're concerned here. I saw we just played Brook Rollins a moment ago. We're concerned about the status of American farmland, Senator Marshall, because so much of it has been purchased by China. Clearly, with the blessing and the encouragement of the Chinese Communist Party around American military bases. Explain to us what the threat here is and what can be done to stop it.
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Senator Roger Marshall
Yeah, so. So just in general, farm security, food security is national security. We take it for granted. China, their nationals, their people, have purchased only about 300,000 acres of land. That's not a land, but it's the location that matters. They have land right next to Whiteman Air Force Base. That's where our B2 bombers took off from for their mission to Iran. Back home, Fort Riley, Kansas, is near and dear to my heart. They have land close to that, so it looks like they've strategically purchased land next to military bases so that in and of itself, they can keep track of what's coming and going. What new drones do. We have all sorts of things, as you can imagine. So it's a national security issue. But beyond that, let's talk about the other pieces of national security. When it comes to agriculture, it's the food supply chain. So foreign nationals hold about one fourth of the protein processing in America, pork processing and beef processing, to be particular. They're constantly stealing our intellectual property. We have Chinese nationals in our laboratories, at our universities, so they are a constant threat. The one that really scares me is bioterrorism. The next COVID virus, the next thing that they make in a lab in China. You couldn't imagine that you'd ever have a hot air balloon floating across America, could you? That could be dropping some type of viral particles that would kill all the cattle in America. So that's the big concern, Vince.
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Vince
Well, for sure. And I imagine China is gonna get more and more aggressive as President Trump gets aggressive with them trying to stop the trade imbalances. China is gonna try and figure out ways to force us back into their markets. And if that includes trying to kill our crops off, that is about as vile as it gets. And we've already seen evidence that Chinese nationals keep trying to smuggle bio agents into the United States of America. So this is a very looming threat center.
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Senator Roger Marshall
Right, Right. So let's talk about what the. What, the. The Biden administration just ignored this. I begged them to make the Secretary of Agriculture part of cfius. That's the committee that assesses foreign investments in the United States from a national security standpoint. Yesterday, President Trump made Secretary Rollins part of cfius, so she can evaluate each one of these purchases on a case by case basis. You know, who's really purchasing the land? Right. Is it some proxy or. Or are they really connected to a country of concern as well?
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Vince
Why did. I'm sorry, but why did that take until now, Senator? Why. Why did that just happen? I. I'm so confused by that. Because cfius, those of us who've paid attention to it, is supposed to review any foreign investment in American companies. But one would also think that major American land purchases near military bases, that should have been included to begin with.
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Senator Roger Marshall
Yeah, it is absolutely common sense. We brought this to the Biden administration as we saw this acceleration of these land purchases. The President has the ability to appoint her. Congress can codify it. And we do have legislation that would codify that appointment, make it permanently legal, so that if, heaven forbid, we have another Joe Biden in office, that he wouldn't take the Secretary of Agriculture off that, off that post.
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Vince
It's, it's, it's wild that it's happening. What do we know about how China has used this lamp?
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Senator Roger Marshall
Well, that's a, that's a great question. And I can't, you know, I don't have any insider information except to say, obviously, they're spying on us. It's an easy spy spot. But I think what's more important is what the Trump administration is going to do here. Basically, they're going to have an executive order that says, China, country of origins, cannot buy any further agriculture land in the United States, period. And they're going to start a program to start taking land back from them. And, you know, Governor Huckabee Sanders down in Arkansas has already done that. So states can do things as well. The state laws, the state governors can move a little bit more quickly on this. So I would encourage them to get behind this situation as well. So I think that the Trump administration is moving again, moving agriculture up to a level of national security.
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Vince
Okay, well, that's good news. Glad to see that happening. Let me ask you, while we're on the issue of the Department of Agriculture, Brooke Rollins insisted yesterday that she is not in any way pursuing amnesty. She said the president reiterated that point from the White House. But the reason any of this is coming up is because the president has attributed to Secretary Rollins a push to figure out a way to keep foreign nationals who've been in the country here illegally working on farms and hotels and hospitality. And that has raised a lot of eyebrows, people very concerned about that. The president suggested that whatever solution here might be legislative. But even if it's legislative, Senator, that does sound like an amnesty to me. You know, if you, if you create a legislative solution to people who've been here illegally and let them stay and not impose consequences. So can you give us some insight into this? And if a piece of legislation like that were to appear before you in the Senate, would you oppose it?
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Senator Roger Marshall
So, no amnesty, Period. Full stop. In the paragraph in a sentence, no amnesty. The president's made that very clear. Secretary Rollins reiterated that five times yesterday. Republicans in the Senate are not in favor of amnesty. But two points I'd like to make, though. Number one, we could not have ever even had this discussion until the border was secure. It's amazing. The border secure again. The one big beautiful bill is going to build 2,000 miles of barrier. It's going to fund that border security for the next four years. Usually we have to fight every year with their Democrat Senate on funding that, but we have. We're going to double the number of ice removal agents. I think what we heard Secretary Rollins say yesterday is they're going to continue to prioritize the 400,000 violent, illegal criminals in this country. And that's why, I think, why you saw DHS Secretary Noem there and, you know, all the different secretaries, the attorney general were there saying, look, this is all of the above problem that we're trying to solve. We want to make our farmland secure and we want to make your family safer as well. So I think that's first and and foremost ahead of us is the border secure. And we're going to prioritize those violent, illegal criminals. Those. They're very expensive. They're very time consuming. We've doubled the number of retention beds as well. I don't see amnesty as any part of the future under President Trump.
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Vince
Okay, so if any amnesty bill appears before you, you're voting no on that? That's.
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Senator Roger Marshall
That's right. I think that if, you know that we worked on this when I was in the House before, it would have required every person that's in this country illegal to go out of the country and start over and come back and do this the legal, proper way. And what we had in that situation was you needed to have a job. You need to have someone vouching for you that you had a job. And again, we just need to do a better job with clearance right now as well. So I think that the Trump administration is fully engaged on removing illegals, but prioritizing those who are violent criminal aliens, 400,000 of them.
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Vince
Okay. Let me also ask you about Dr. Kevin O' Connor today. Supposed to be in a deposition with the United States House of Representatives, testifying about what he knew and, of course, what he also concealed about Joe Biden's physical limitations while he was in office. Now, this has been a bit of a wrestling match to get this guy in in the first place. He was requested to come in, didn't want to. They sent him a subpoena and said, you will show up today. And then as late as yesterday, he was still indicating that he doesn't really want to do this because he doesn't feel like he's ready to do it and talk about his. His patient, Senator Marshall. Take us inside. What we should think about all of this. Dr. Kevin O' Connor and his testimony before Congress.
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Senator Roger Marshall
Yeah, Vince, of course. You know, I'm a physician as well. I practice obstetrics and gynecology for 25 years. And maybe I can share a couple analogies from there. Look, this doctor has a legal obligation to come and testify. Just like if I had a legal obligation, let's say, again, I'm an obstetrician. I see a patient in the morning and she goes out and kills somebody that night, and I'm subpoenaed to the court to come and testify. I would test, they would ask me questions. What was her mental status? I'd be obligated to talk about that. Did she say anything that she was interested in killing somebody or herself? I would have to testify to that. Now, if they asked me, has she ever had herpes? Has she ever had std? She ever had a miscarriage? I would say, look, that's patient doctor privilege. It has nothing to do with this case. But. Right, but in this situation, this doctor has every obligation to come talk about the national security issues regarding the neurogenerative decline of one Joe Biden and how there was an abuse of power with the auto pin. So I think that's fair game, that the law trumps his ethical obligation. One, one caveat I want to throw out there. There's a political downside to doing this. Political downside to doing this. Republicans need to stay focused on selling our one big, beautiful bill. We need to keep out there reminding people this is the largest tax cut, this is the largest spending cut in American history. We need to stay focused on that. We need to be stay focused on getting these trade deals done. All those things that President Trump's agenda is. This is a bit of a sideshow, but. So there's a political downside to doing this.
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Vince
Maybe, but also it is the biggest constitutional crisis of our lifetimes. I think when you have somebody who's not actually the President of the United States being referred to as the president, and then other people are operating the powers of an entire branch of government, it does seem like a really meaningful deal. And to the extent that we get to the bottom of it and when it comes to the White House. Doctor. Senator, I've thought a lot, and I think you kind of addressed it a bit, that this is an unusual patient. You know, there is one thing to have just sort of your average civilian who's going to see their doctor. They're entitled to privilege and secrecy around their health status. But if you're the President of the United States. We have an entire constitutional amendment that's dedicated to your health and your wellbeing and whether or not you should still actively be considered the President. In light of that, it does strike me that Dr. Kevin O' Connor has a complete obligation to talk about the health of the man that they claimed was the President.
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Senator Roger Marshall
Yeah, I agree with everything you said. I want my good friend Jamie Comer to go through with this trial. I'm just telling us not to overplay our hand. We, we cannot stop talking about all the great victories under President Trump that we're doing as well. We cannot make this the focus of the Republican Party. But, but he absolutely, this doctor absolutely has an obligation to talk about the neurodegenerative decline of one Joe Biden. He absolutely, absolutely that this is an impact on national security. I think that Congressman Comer is well within his constitutional rights to come in and say, did this president put us at some type of national security threat level? You know what, who, who was really planned this Afghanistan evacuation debacle? Was, Is there any type of notes. I want to share the. See the notes as he was, as the auto pin signed all these pardons. Is there a discussion, you know, with the President that, that records some of those as well? That would be a minimal that I would want to see. So there's. Where there's smoke, there's fire, full speed ahead. But we got a great story to tell beyond just Joe Biden's decline.
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Vince
I totally agree, but. Okay, so last question on this subject then, which is if it is found through this investigation that the President truly was non compass meant that the guy was not functioning at all and other people were doing the job, to what extent does that invalidate anything that the auto pen signature was affixed to? You know what I mean? Like, the implications of that are very big. What legislation was signed with the auto pen? What executive orders, what pardons were signed with the auto pen? And can they even be considered valid in the wake of a finding like this?
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Senator Roger Marshall
Yeah, Vince, what I can promise you is if that's the case, we're going to first of all do resolutions on the Senate floor, and I would expect executive orders, something to come out of the Trump administration. This is why Pam Bondi is the Attorney General. And I would expect this to go through the court system. I would expect this to go all the way to the Supreme Court level. It'll be a 6, 3, 5, 4 decision, I think. And that's why we have these three CO equal branches of government. But it's the job of the House of Representatives right now to expose it, to get to the facts so then we can go through that judicial process. But I couldn't agree more. And I really do think that we're going to find that we that Joe Biden was mentally incompetent for several years there. All these kiss and tell books are now coming out confirming that. And I really do think as we go beyond just Dr. O', Connor, but other people within the White House, that that's what's going to come to fruition. I'm with you on this one.
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Vince
Okay, Senator Marshall, beyond getting the big beautiful bill passed, which I'm very grateful we did for all the reasons that are contained within it, the tax cuts, the immigration enforcement people are also looking for spending cuts. And right now you do have a bill that's been presented to the United States Senate. It's a rescissions package sent by the president of the United States to cut just about $9 billion in spending. That's on USAID, NPR, PBS. How quickly do you anticipate that thing actually passing?
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Senator Roger Marshall
Well, I think it'll come to the floor next week. But I'm embarrassed to tell you that there's people, Senator, Republicans, that are having heartburn about it. Look to your point, $37 trillion of national debt, a trillion dollars a year on interest. And the Senate doesn't have the Kahunis to cut $9 billion of total waste, fraud and abuse. When I sit down with Elon Musk the first time, I gave him a list of the top 10 things that doge to do, should do. USAID was the top of it. And I put beside it, burn it to the ground. Based upon my, my experiences traveling, seeing what USAID was doing, I knew that there was a lot of fraud and abuse going on with it. And then the national this is also going to defund National Public Radio television as well. Look, Kansans back home are tired of their taxpayer money being spent on basically one propaganda unit for the left. Right. So, but, but it's, we've got some heartburn going on here. Hopefully we can get it through.
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Vince
Okay, can you, I'm sorry, but can you characterize why any Republican would oppose these cuts? Is it, what is the point of that? Are they, are they trying to protect some sort of spending in their own states, or is it about the principle of trying to stop the White House from having a say about cutting spending? What is this?
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Senator Roger Marshall
Yeah, I think within this USAID money is money to fund AIDS for 20, over 20 years, we have spent billions of dollars treating people for AIDS in Africa. And I'm so glad we got to do it. But do we need to keep spending a billion dollars a year on that? When does Africa take care of their own problems? When they, when are they going to realize what's causing aids? That there's ways to prevent it other than taking a medicine that costs tens of thousands of dollars a month as well? So that's one piece, the humanitarian part of it as well. And look, there are some, there are some moderates within the Republican Party that think National Public Radio should be funded by the, by the government. I disagree with today's media opportunities. I don't see why the federal government needs to be subsidizing anybody out there in the media, let alone someone who's so biased as NPR is.
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Vince
Man, if you stay with this and you try to keep spending money on that, you should be totally embarrassed. And by the way, you should lose office. There's no, there's no excuse for this. It's like the most measly possible spending cut package like you and I are talking about it. But $9 billion, that's like change under the carpet. That's nothing. There's so much more to cut. This is, this is our first test of whether or not Congress can do it. And I really, really hope that you can thank Senator Marshall. I'm so glad you joined me today. Thank you, sir. Good to talk to you. There he is. Senator Roger Marshall. It's, it's crazy. It's crazy. So here's the update for you on spending cuts. As you know, few shows actually have covered rescissions as much as we have because it is this very powerful tool to cut spending that the United States Senate is not thrilled that we know about. I can tell you right now, because it puts the very Republicans that Senator Marshall was alluding to in an uncomfortable position. They have to take real votes about whether or not they really want to cut spending for you. A lot of these guys spend all this time running for office, fundraising off of you, taking your money, getting your votes and then showing up in office and not doing any of the crap that they ran on, including cutting spending. And so what the rescissions power allows these guys to do is with a simple majority vote in the United States Senate, not a filibuster proof majority, not a 60 vote majority. I'm talking 50 votes plus JD Vance's tiebreaker, they can cut spending. That's what rescissions is. It's a presidential power. The president sends a request to Congress, he gets a 45 day clock begins. The House has already passed their component. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, you can cut that. The Senate hasn't done it yet. They were begging for time. They said, well, we got to pass the big beautiful bill first. Okay, that's done and over. The Senate this week is on vacation. So when they get back, when they get back, pass it. Senator Marshall says it should happen next week. I imagine the President of the United States does not want to be embarrassed by Republicans in the Senate. So he'll get involved in the brow beating here. And John Thune, well, he's got to shepherd this thing across the finish line, get it done. There are important programs to cut, but as I noted, they're measly $9 billion. That's nothing. We have a $37 trillion debt. We got a lot more cutting to do. So we are awaiting a bunch of things. 1 August 18th is when this rescissions, what they call pocket rescissions, can be sent over by the White House. Pocket rescissions, which actually is, as Russ Vote has explained and will explain in more detail tomorrow when we chat with him here on this program, gives the White House the ability to cut spending without Congress being involved at all. How does that work? We'll talk about this with Russ Vote, but I have questions for him. How durable are these spending cuts? How long will they last? Is this something we have to do every fiscal year or can we do this on a permanent basis? I've heard a lot of conflicting things. I don't like hearing conflicting things. I want clear guidance on this subject. I want Russ Vote to walk me through pocket rescissions. I want him to be able to explain to us what is happening, how it's happening and what we can expect next. How big are the spending packages going to be? The White House has a lot of power here. Is the president going to send over hundreds of billion or even trillions of dollars in cuts to pull out of the federal government to save Americans money? The president obviously is very concerned with growth. That's his big thing. This is why he wanted to get the big beautiful bill passed. He wants growth and so did the rest of us. We want a flourishing economy. We want a lot of money flowing. As a result, tax revenues are going to go up even though taxes have been cut. We've seen this phenomenon. It happened after the first round of tax cuts from President Trump. But we also need spending cuts. This is what I said when I talked to Senator Rand Paul about this. When I talked to Senator Ron Johnson about this, I nod my head in violent agreement. Here I am nodding my head in violent agreement that we need spending cuts. We absolutely need those. But at the same time, what do we need? What did we need out of the big, beautiful bill? We need a secure border. We need the invasion to stop. We need every single illegal who's come here in the invasion to be deported. We need our country back. So, yes, there's a lot of things to do to get our house in order. But these spending cuts, they matter a great deal. And as I said from the beginning, after the big, beautiful bill gets passed, we're going to have to cut a lot of spending. So that's good. Yeah. All right, Chad. I know, I know. We keep plugging away. Rescissions should be set in stone, says RWR7777. It's a lot of sevens. I agree with you. I totally agree with you. And. Yeah, and then of course, you got the doomers out there. Who is this? Sds cmss. Forget about rescissions. The Republicans will fuck this up. Look, I'm going to war with the army. We've got. Fellas, I don't know what to tell you. We gotta do this. And we just have to keep riding them. That's it. Just keep going after these guys until they actually do the job. Browbeat them into submission, Brown beat them into submission. That's the plan. What options do we have? Here's one. Force them to make them do it. We're keeping track of all of this. And red wine, 1791 says deport all illegals. I totally, I totally agree with you. Okay. You heard me ask about amnesty a moment ago. I was talking to Senator Marshall about this idea about amnesty. Let me remind you where all of that came from. President Trump had this to say last week. Take a look. Cut seven. Here's what he said Thursday night. This is Independence Day Eve.
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John Brennan
We're working on legislation right now where farmers, look, they know better. They work with them. For years you had cases where. Not here, but just even over the years where people have worked for a farm, on a farm for 14, 15 years and they get thrown out pretty viciously and we can't do it. We got work to work with the farmers and people that have hotels and leisure properties too. We're going to work with them and we're going to work very strong and smart. And we're going to put you in charge. We're going to make you responsible. And I think that, that's going to make a lot of people happy. Now, serious radical right people who I also happen to like a lot, they may not be quite as happy, but they'll understand, won't they? Do you think so?
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Vince
Oh, boy, oh, boy. Now that one caught some fire. I know that caught your attention too. Seriously, radical right people, how about just normal people? How about normal people would like people who come here illegally to be deported to face the consequences for their illegal actions? Well, that moves. So what happened was the White House heard you. It is so abundantly clear to me what is going on. The White House heard you and heard your concerns here. And this is where it comes. This comes. Whether it's the White House or the Senate. The House, you just always have to stay vigilant and you have to stay on top of these things. You know, I think a lot of us, for years we kind of went about our business. We're like, I'll just go to work. You know, somebody else will handle the politics. But conservatives, we've learned you can't do that because when you do that especially the left is on the move and they're gonna invade every possible space of your life and make it miserable. We have to stop them from doing that. So the White House heard you here and so we got a series of statements yesterday that were encouraging but worth continuing to watch over. Here's the Ag Secretary Brooke Rollins yesterday saying, cut five. No amnesty. No amnesty. No amnesty. Here she goes.
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Brooke Rollins
There will be no amnesty. The mass deportations continue, but in a strategic way. And we move the workforce towards automation and 100% American participation, which again, with 34 million people, able bodied adults on Medicaid, we should be able to do that fairly quickly.
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Vince
We've got more than enough Americans who need good jobs. That's what she said there. 100% American participation. That's what she said there. We'll hold her to it. We're gonna hold her to it. The President of the United States also weighing in on this yesterday held a big cabinet meeting, as he often does. Remember, Biden never held any of these. The cabinet members never got to speak to Biden. But President Trump said yesterday, cut six. No, no amnesty.
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John Brennan
There's no amnesty. What we're doing is we're getting rid of criminals, but we are doing a work program. Would you want to explain that, please?
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Brooke Rollins
Yeah, this morning we talked about, of course this was a top of mind question. This morning we talked about protecting the farmers and the farmland. But obviously this president's vision of no amnesty Mass deportation continues, but in a strategic way. And then ensuring that our farmers have the labor that they need. Secretary Chavez Durimer has been a leader on this. Obviously this comes out of the Labor Department. But moving toward automation, ensuring that, that our, our farmers have that workforce and moving toward an American workforce. So all of the above.
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John Brennan
Give the farmers the people they need. But we're not talking amnesty.
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Vince
No amnesty. Okay. She said no amnesty. But we're going to do this strategically. I don't, I don't love that phrasing. How about you? Do you love that phrasing chat? Your radar's up at all? My radar's up. My spidey senses are tingling. So let me just reiterate. No amnesty unless we take 100% care of American workers. Let's focus there first and foremost. And then if you want to work on the legal guest worker program and people, they can't, you can't do it here in the country. You've got to come from some other country. Legal guest workers, we have that. That's our, that already exists in the law. Use the law. That's what I'm telling you. But priority one, American citizens deport the illegals and take care of Americans. That's all we asked for. That's all we voted for. All right. Thanks for being with me as always on another speedy edition of Vince. Holy cow. We just started this thing and it's over in a second. Another speedy edition of Vince. Great to have you with us tomorrow on the program. Russ Vote. This is, I can't be more clear about this. It is a can't miss interview. We are going to get into the details of these spending cuts and how we can restore order to our great country. Tell friends, tell family, check in on Russ Vote. We're doing that right here on Vince tomorrow. Good to have you with us. I've got the Vince show coming up on radio. That's 12 to 3 Eastern nationwide. You can find the listings at the Vince Show.com or watch it live. Rumble.com Vince, as always, great to be with you.