B (6:15)

Right.

A (6:16)

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All this stuff's happening. And these people keep insisting Donald Trump isn't doing anything or his Administration. Why are they doing that? Look, this person's working for said candidate or this person's working for this group, or this person's getting foreign money. There's a reason the op is clear. The doomers throw it out there. The liberal media picks it up. They both want Trump gone. Now, I put this out on my Twitter last night. If you're not following me, I am at debongino on X Twitter last night. Of course, many of you heard about it. If you haven't, it was a huge case. It's been worked on by a long time at Department of Justice and FBI. You see, I put more things are happening in all caps. Department of Justice. So it's happening now. Justice Department announced an indictment against the Southern Poverty Law center for funneling, secretly funneling more than 3 million in funds to members of white supremacists and extremist groups. Really? I thought they were. Now, these are allegations. Everybody's innocent till proven guilty. That is how the process works. And I mean it. However, these are very serious allegations. I thought they were fighting extremist groups. The allegations in the report that they were funding them too, at the same time, that's kind of weird. So I just found it awfully interesting. And by the way, I'm just reading news and the media space like you are right now, but I found it awfully weird that this attack timed on Cash about bs stories about they couldn't find him or whatever, he magically disappeared like Casper the Ghost or something. I found the timing of it weird because, you know, you know, a lot of this stuff is going to eventually come out. As a matter of fact, the media report made me believe something was going to come out. So I'm like, this is kind of strange. So then I noted this on yesterday's show where I said to you, starting to make sense now. I put it out on Twitter. Flag it. I noted. Nanley Marie Karasimi. I count. I really like. The hit on Keshe Patel is going to make a lot of sense very soon. There's a reason the media and Democrats want him out now. Hmm, that didn't take long. All starting to come together now. Let's talk about another OP you all should recognize by now because it's pretty clear. This is the OP where these people randomly show up at rallies. They show up at rallies and they pretend to be part of the MAGA coalition. They have signs like we love Hitler. You know, Nazis are the best. They're like, they have signs like we hate black people or whatever. And you're like, wow, who the hell is this guy? Like, that's. And ironically, it's the MAGA people kicking them out of the rallies. Like, hey, man, that's not our thing. Like, I don't know, you must be some kind of lefty. Now, conservative activists and MAGA folks have been suspicious about this for years because the left constantly lies about these things. If it looks like an op, it walks like an OP and smells like an op. Maybe it's an op. And one of the most significant left wing ops of all time in politics up there with the Russia hoax was the Fine People hoax. Remember the Charlottesville rally that ended in tragedy? Remember afterwards, Donald Trump, I will play for you this video in a second so you can see it yourself. Lefties. This may be the first time you hear Donald Trump gives a quick speech from Trump Tower about this. You're going to see a couple of his folks in the background. And Donald Trump is asked about the Charlottesville rally after the tearing down of statues. And Donald Trump clearly says that there were fine people on both sides. But he says at one point, I am not talking about this group of people. Now, lefties, I know you've heard the fine people. He called white supremacists fine people. Did he? I know many of you were hearing this for the first time. Check this out. And you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me. Excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. And you had people. And I'm not talking about the neo Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally, but you had many people in that group other than neo Nazis and white nationalists. Okay, guy, did you edit that? Did he just say, I'm not talking about the neo Nazis and white nationalists? And then he added, just to be clear, he added, they should be condemned totally. Did you just make that up? That AI. What did he mean? What could. He said it right? What could he possibly mean by that? He's very cryptic. I am not talking about the neo Nazis and white supremacists who should be condemned completely. I don't know, man. Liberals are like, I don't know, man. That's the first time I heard that. I really can't fix your stupidity. However, now that you know he completely condemned his words, the white supremacists and neo Nazis. You still going to continue to act like a moron and fall for the op? You can. It's your choice to fall for an op, but just know you're a dick. Here's Kamala Harris, by the way. I'm going to more of this tomorrow too. I just got a lot to get to today, folks. This is up there with the collusion hoax, the fine people hoax. This was such a pervasive op on the left, some people actually believe he called white supremacists fine people despite saying the opposite. That Kamala Harris, despite knowing anyone, could go and watch the video I just showed you. She knows liberals are dumb and won't do that. So she actually says in a debate, define people hoax, knowing no one on the left will look it up because the left lives in the world of stupid ideas. They don't care about reality. You doubt me? Here's the video. Check this out. Let's remember Charlottesville where there was a mob of people carrying tiki torches spewing anti Semitic hate. And what did the president then at the time say? There were fine people on each side that came up in the debate. Joe Biden at one point said it was his reason for running. What's the problem with that, ladies and gentlemen in the audience, in the chat, the problem is it didn't happen. And it's not just that it didn't happen that he, Donald Trump said neo Nazis and white supremacists were fine people, it's that he said the opposite. I completely condemn them. They knew the op was in full effect. When I say they, the media, the media knew they had a Russia collusion hoax before the Russia collusion hoax. They knew it. And the media could have told you, hey guys, listen, this isn't real. This is not reality. Donald Trump did not say this. Here's the transcript. And the media played along because it was an op. And a bunch of left wing dipshits fell for the op because. Because they wanted to. Because they wanted to believe it even though it wasn't true. I'm going to lay out for you now that I'm on the outside as a media commentator for the nothing is happening doomers and the liberal media folks who lied. I want you to start to put together some pieces. Now, I've been telling you for the last year again that just because you don't see things happening today does not mean they're not happening. You can judge the book in chapter one before reading the ending. That's fine. That just makes you look like a buffoon for not reading the whole book before telling us how the book is, good or bad. I want you to remember this one as well. Here is an excellent congressional representative from Texas up on Capitol Hill. Questioning is at Stuart Whitson, I believe, formerly of the FBI. Brandon Gill is asking some very interesting questions about the Southern Poverty Law center now under indictment as of yesterday. I want you to pay very close attention to the questions. Check this out. The FBI utilized a so called hate map from the splc, the Southern Poverty Law center as it was going after traditional Catholics and labeling them domestic extremists. Do you think that that's inappropriate source?

B (16:01)

Absolutely not.

A (16:02)

Do you know some of the other groups that the SPLC labels as hate groups or extremist groups?

B (16:08)

No, I don't.

A (16:09)

Off the top of my head I can name a few. They also name the Alliance Defending Freedom, the Family Research Council and Moms for Liberty as hate groups as well. Do you find it concerning that they were using that the SPLC is the source?

B (16:26)

Yeah, I find it deeply concerning.

A (16:28)

Do you think that Catholics who celebrate the traditional Latin Mass are a threat to the American people?

B (16:35)

I don't because I'm one that does that on occasion.

A (16:39)

Can you recall before Joe Biden was in office anytime whenever the FBI specifically targeted a group of Americans solely because of their religious faith? No. Do you think there's any evidence to suggest that that harassing Catholic Americans keeps Americans safe? Not at all. Now do you see what we walked into? The mess we walked into a generational mess we walked into over there at the fucking B. You know I didn't play that stinger there. Now I'm just going to show you what happened. For the nothing is happening folks. These guys were kind enough to put together a little stinger. This is strictly for the nothing is happening folks. Check this out. So here's a list of things that didn't happen. Air quotes that are in the nothing is happening file. Pursuant to what I just kind of laid out to you, there was a weird symbiosis between the Southern Poverty Law center which has some very serious allegations and is now under indictment, was working with the pre Trump administration FBI on a lot of these groups. That seems awfully weird, doesn't it? Now does this AP story, Associated Press story maybe make a little bit of sense now when this happened again the nothing is happening people ignored it or said it's no big deal. Maybe the big deal starting to make sense now. Headline AP Eric Tucker 10-03-2025 FBI cuts ties with Southern Poverty Law center and Anti Defamation League after conservative complaints. AP is framing that wrong. It had very little to do with conservative complaints and a lot to do with what you're starting to see now. But that actually happened. Here is some more things that happened that the Doomers and Lib media both seem to want to attack you from. You know, the tent on, one from outside, one from inside. Antifa cell members convicted in Prairieland ICE Detention Center Shooting I thought the Trump administration wasn't going after, you know, corruption in some of, you know, activist groups that were engaging in violence and fraud. And I thought they weren't doing that. How is it these were the first antifa convictions we've seen? Here was another one that the nothing is happening crowd missed. In addition to the SPLC indictment, Executive Director of Black Lives Matter Oklahoma City charged with wire fraud and money laundering. That happened to December of 2025. How'd they miss that then? Nothing is happening crowd. By the way, the liberal media knows it's happening. They just don't like this stuff is happening. They want you to believe all these left wing groups are just above board all the time and they should never be investigated. And by the way, that goes for any group on any political ideology. You're engaged in wire fraud, corruption, you will be investigated the exact same way. Nobody gets a free pass unlike the blast administration. Now again, does it make sense why the Doomers and the liberal media tried to take out Cash Patel this week with a bullshit hit piece now massive case. Yesterday they do a press conference over at doj Acting AG Todd Blanch and FBI Director Patel. And what happens of course the liberal media dipshits who cannot cannot focus on the substance of what they were talking about yesterday. A massive indictment against the Southern Poverty Law center has to again go back to the discredited allegations against Director Patel about how they couldn't find him. I was really glad to. Cash fought back yesterday because he's over the target and he shouldn't have to listen to this bullshit. Check this out.

B (20:43)

You say definitively that you have not

A (20:46)

been intoxicated or absent during your tenure as FBI director. I can say unequivocally that I never listen to the fake news mafia. And as when they get louder, it just means I'm doing my job. This FBI director has been on the job twice as many days as every director before me. What that means is I've taken half

B (21:06)

as many days off as those before me. What that means is I've taken a

A (21:10)

third Less vacation than those before me. What that means is that this FBI, with this Department of Justice, has dropped the murder rate 20 points.

B (21:18)

What that means is this FBI, with

A (21:20)

this Department of Justice, has captured eight

B (21:23)

of the top 10 most wanted fugitives in the world, twice as many as

A (21:26)

the Biden administration did in its entire four years. What that means is this FBI has

B (21:31)

seized enough fentanyl off the streets to

A (21:33)

kill 178 million Americans.

B (21:34)

A 31% increase. What that means is this FBI and this DOJ has arrested 43% more spies

A (21:41)

in 14 months in the entirety of the Biden administration.

B (21:44)

What that means is this FBI has

A (21:46)

seen a reduction in opioid overdose deaths

B (21:49)

up to 20% alone. What that means is that we have found 6,300 child victims and 6,300 families have their kids back. That is a 22% increase from the Biden administration. I'm on the job. I'm the first one in, I'm the last one out. I'm like an everyday American who loves his country, loves the sport of hockey and champions. My friends, when they raise a gold medal and invite me in to celebrate, I've never been intoxicated on the job.

A (22:16)

And that is why we filed a $250 million defamation lawsuit.

B (22:20)

And any one of you that wants to participate, bring it on. I'll see you in court.

A (22:25)

Good for you, brother. You don't have to listen to that bullshit. You think that was all luck? Maybe if it was just one thing like a 20% drop in fentanyl deaths or really low murder rate, you could say, ah, Cash just got lucky or something like that. Counterterror arrests up. Counterintelligence arrests up. Spies captured. Border closed. Homicide rate lowest in US history. Crime rate down. Antifa. Blm, Bolton, Comey, James, splc. That's just luck. All of it's just luck, folks. They're trying to stop the foil effect. The left wing media knows that Donald Trump's administration is done screwing around. The border's going to get sealed, crime is going to go down, and we're done getting kicked around on the international stage. It's over. They can't have this foil effect between the Biden administration that failed at all of that. So they've got to get the administration picked off one person at a time. It's why Cash and Pete are their number one targets. This indictment yesterday is damning again. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Like him or hate him, it doesn't matter. I never went in there with any partizan bias impacting the job at all and and never would be paid by the taxpayers. All of them. However, this is a pretty serious indictment. Here's acting AG Todd Blanche yesterday laying out the SPLC indictment. It's about a minute clip talking about what he thinks happened and I'm going to play a clip of him on Fox where he has another interesting angle on this about how where this case was started and stopped. Fascinating. Check this first part out first today. A few minutes ago in the Middle District of Alabama, a grand jury returned an 11 count indictment charging the Southern Poverty Law center with six counts of wire fraud, four counts of bank fraud and one count of conspiracy to commit money laundering. According to the charges in the indictment, the SPLC is a nonprofit entity that purports to fight white supremacy and racial hatred by reporting on extremist groups and conducting research to inform law enforcement groups with the goal of dismantling these groups. As the indictment describes. The SPLC was not dismantling these groups. It was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to oppose by paying sources to stoke racial hatred. The indictment describes this conduct in detail, but one troubling example is that the SPLC was paying a a member of the leadership group that planned the Unite the Right protest in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017 that resulted in the death of one person and injured dozens more. Now does it all make sense why I brought up Charlotteville? The fine people, Charlottesville, Excuse me. The fine people hoax us. Cutting ties with the SPLC and how the process of justice works slowly. I saw someone in the chat, forgive me, said something like, you know, Dan, you wrote an apology, brother. Listen, I deeply appreciate it that you wrote that. Thank you. I'm not owed anything. I'm not, I'm not being like humble about it for faux reasons or anything. People who are out there in the conservative podcast the sand space were, were frustrated. I don't blame him. If you had to take your anger out on me and Cash even though we knew what we were doing, fine. If that makes you feel better, that's okay. I'm not talking about the assholes who were just doing it to be. There were people out there with who were legitimately concerned that justice moves slowly. And I get it. I'm not owed anything. Anything. I mean it. I. You have to justify to your audience why you told them things that weren't true without knowing any of the information and ever having reached out to any of us. It's not. You owe your audience an apology. You don't owe me anything. Here was Todd last night on Laura Ingraham show. And I want you to pay very close attention to the beginning of this segment because he doesn't jump out ahead of things, but he notes something interesting for the people out there who are obviously going to say by the way too, like, oh, you know, you guys started all this stuff because you were politically biased and all this stuff, okay? Really listen to acting AG Todd Blanche on Laura Ingraham show last night. Check this out, Mr. Acting Attorney General,

B (26:52)

how did they get away with this for so long?

A (26:55)

I mean, it's a great question. I said today during the press conference that we know that this investigation was open during the Biden administration and then mysteriously closed. I really don't have any information about why it was closed. And then we started again last year, the FBI did, working with the U.S. attorney in Alabama. And it's extraordinarily egregious. You just talked about it. But imagine a donor to the SPLC if they were told, by the way, we're going to give the money you're giving us to the Ku Klux Klan, okay? Like in some cases, over a million dollars. I mean, it's incredible.

B (27:26)

Now they say they're no longer using these informants in this way and that it was necessary because they had all sorts of threats against the organization, firebombing

A (27:35)

threats and other acts of purported violence.

B (27:38)

And that's why they had to use these informants. And to that you say?

A (27:41)

Well, to that I say, for one, the indictment charges all the way through 2023. So I'm not, I'm here to speak about what they're doing right now. But that indictment charge is a long period of time through 2023. And second, and more importantly, there's no allegation or information in the indictment that suggests they shared that information with law enforcement. They have communicated, they said they did. Well, they have communicated when they so chose with law enforcement over the years. There is no information that we have that suggests that the money that they were paying to these informants and these members of these organizations, they then turned around and shared what they learned with law enforcement to the contrary, or else we would have known from their own words that they had given this money to these guys and we didn't know it. You don't owe me anything. Zero. And this is not even the end of the beginning. I'm just telling you. And again, like, zone in on me. Someone wrote on Twitter, dan, you stared me in the eye. That makes me believe you even more. Or something like that there is a lot more coming. I promise you. My word matters. You got me. This isn't even close to done. If you think that I told the director I'd give him a year of my life away from my family and others to go there and sit there in the office and grow moss on my head and just come in there and sit in this dumpy old office on the seventh floor in a collapsing building because I had nothing better to do with my time. Probably not the show for you. Probably not the show for you. So again, to the doomers out there, you don't owe me squat. But you are going to have to owe your audience a bunch of explanations as to why everything you told them wasn't happening is all happening. You owe them an explanation, not me. I already told them I know what's coming down. All right, I'm going to take a quick break and I want to cover why, you know, Virginia, obviously last night, not a. Not a good night. The Virginia gerrymandering. I got a quick point on that. But I'm going to show you some math, a math issue here that may render a lot of this a net zero and not like in the environmental BS kind of way. Folks, let's be honest. The cost of living isn't just high, it's exhausting. If you've been leaning on credit cards lately just to cover the basics, you know, groceries, gas and utility bills, you're essentially paying a survival tax of 20% interest or more that's draining your wallet and stop making you more productive. My friends at American Financing have a better way for you. They're helping homeowners like yourself tap into their equity to pay off high interest debt. With mortgage rates currently in the fives on average, American Financing is saving their customers. Wait for it. $800 a month. That's nearly $10,000 a year back in your pocket. That's an enormous amount of savings. Just check them out, that's all I ask. It takes just 10 minutes to find out what you can save. There are no upfront fees. There's no obligation to talk to a salary based mortgage consultant. They have your interests in mind. Here's the kicker. Start today. You could even delay two mortgage payments for more money. Back in your wallet, back in your bank account, back in your pocket where it belongs. Call American Financing. Today, they are America's home. For home loans, the number is 888-994-7660. Again, the number is 888-994-7860. Or you can visit them online at American financing.net bongino that's American financing.net bongino Go today, see if you can save yourself some money. It's worth your time. American financing.net Bongino thank you, American Financing. So last night, Shonda Burt in the chat. Ooh, Dan, are you showing some chest for Nicole today? I should have brought. Thank you, Shonda Burt this is not for Nicole. I don't know if she approves. Clearly she watches the show often and judges my A10. A10? Is this the first 10? Have we had a Nicole Wallace 10?

B (31:54)

We.

A (31:54)

We've had a 10 before, man. Nicole Go easy, Nicole. See, we got the mood music going. So no, I is a cut shirt. I like cuts. It's a great company. I wear a lot of their shirts. But I have an interview today with my good friend Sean Hannity on his excellent podcast Hangout with so I with John Hannity. So if you see me wearing the same gear, that's why. And I just, you know, decide I better put long sleeves. And plus, it's really gloomy today. It's actually a little cold for Florida. It's like 87, which in Florida is like freezing. So that's why. But thank you, Shonda Burke. That was very nice. You see a little scar up there too Nasty, right? That was about. So don't flip out. Start flipping over tables like that lady in the Real Housewives of New Jersey. It was not a good night, period. It was a loss. That's it. There's no other way. I hate It's a lost but. But. There is a but here that the fight nationally is not over. Politico Playbook, which is the left wing bible. It's a email list they put out every morning. I'm on it. It's actually worth your time because you can see what the left is thinking. They are very worried because they lost last night but still have a variable sitting out there and that variable is Florida. So here's where we stand with the national gerrymandering redistricting map. And again, Republicans and Democrats do it. I'm not telling you Democrats are the only ones who gerrymander. I am, however, telling you that Democrats gerrymander a lot better and better. I mean, worse than Republicans because they can't run on their ideas. They can't. So they have to steal power by packing the court and other things. So here's where we stand. The title of playbook today, Grinders Political power. For those keeping track now, they note the new Virginia map would push The Democrats into a narrow plus one lead nationwide in the redistricting wars. If every district that's been redrawn since Republicans first launched, of course, they got to know first. Launch. Republicans did this, guys. Eric Holder hasn't been talking about this for years. Gerrymandering last summer goes as expected. Republicans picked up and expected nine seats in total. Okay, so track me here. Five in Texas, two in Ohio, one in North Carolina, one in Missouri. That's assuming, obviously, we win in the midterms. There's, you know, don't take any of this for granted. Don't assume either the Democrats gerrymandered seats are a win either. They could lose. Democrats picked up 10, so they have a net, obviously. Plus one. We picked up nine. They picked up 10. Five in California, four in Virginia as of yesterday. If it passes their Virginia Supreme Court, which it probably will, plus one in Utah. Unbelievable, by the way, which was redrawn by the courts, which is incredible. Goes to show you how, like, you know, a lot of Republicans are really Democrats, but no Democrats are really Republicans. Here's a cautionary note. Florida is still hanging out there. Now, Florida has the same problem. Florida could net us 4 to 5 if the vote goes according to the political breakdown of the district. They break it down. I don't want to get overly wonky on this, but. But Florida, if they do that, has the same problem Virginia is going to have by carving the state up the way they did. I want you to envision a traditional Democrat Virginia district centered in a population center like, say, Northern Virginia, say Arlington or Alexandria, one of those areas. Right. Say Arlington. Say the vote In Arlington is 65% Democrat, 35% Republican. Okay, that's that congressional district. A hypothetical one. The Democrats are essentially throwing away 15 percentage points of their vote because they don't need 65% of the vote to win a seat. They need 51. You get it? So they're throwing away roughly, you know, 14, 15%. You get the 50.1, whatever. You get the point. They don't need that to win. So the way gerrymandering works is you take that 14, 15% and you move it into another district. Well, you may be saying to yourself, well, if I'm in that district in Arlington and I'm Congressman Joey Bag of Donuts and I'm winning by 15 percentage points, I'm probably not that happy, even though I'm a Democrat, because I could lose my seat now, now that that seat is 51, 49 Democrat, Republican. You see what I'm telling You, if you turn out and vote. They have now made very, very blue districts purple. This could blow up in everyone's face. The Republicans do. That's why, in case you're wondering why Governor DeSantis and the Florida Republicans, that's why they're just as worried about the Virginia Democrats problem, that if they redistrict the state right now, you could make a lot of Republican districts swing districts too. You get my point. So what I'm telling you is like nobody should be popping champagne on either side yet because you have no idea how the election's going to go. You've created a bunch of swingy type seats by getting away of excess votes that used to help you win in a landslide. We'll see what happens. I think Florida, we should probably take a chance at it. Florida's got people flooding into our districts anyway. It's probably a good time to take another look. It was a loss last night. It wasn't a loss by much, but it doesn't matter. Horseshoes and hand grenades. I'm just telling you, someone in the chat asked me, give us a reason for hope. That's it. You now have a shot in some of these Virginia districts if we show up of actually winning and sticking it right to them. Folks, listen. The Democrats cannot run on ideas. Their ideas are ridiculous. They are so stupid they can't even defend them. You, you're going to love this block here because I'm just using the Democrats own words against them. We run on ideas. I'll bring this up with Vince later in the interview too. I am very proud to be a conservatorian. We run on ideas. And some of those ideas involve tradeoffs and telling people things that are not easy to tell them. Hey, listen, taxing the hell out of a bunch of, yes, very wealthy people above and beyond what they already pay is probably not going to be effective because they're probably going to move you. Yeah, but they're really rich, man. We should take their money. Telling people things like the liberals. Health care is your right. It's your right. Really? Like big R, God given right. That means it creates an obligation for someone else. If it's your right, you can technically walk into a doctor's office and say, hey Doc, I'm not going to pay you, but I'm here to collect my health care. It's my right. You've created an obligation on the doctor. There's no such thing as a right like that. It doesn't work that way. Our governing documents are documents of Negative rights. What the government can't do to you, stop you from speaking, practicing your religion. You don't have the right to anything. You have the right for the government not to basically put an obstacle in front of your freedoms. These are difficult things to have to tell people. What, are we going to let people die? We don't let people die. We don't let people die. That's not what we do. Emergency care. They have to take you in. I saw this. You follow Aaron Wexler. She's really funny. This is a great clip. I like to kind of break up the show a little bit. She's a comedian. She's hilarious. I believe she's down in Miami, but I see her clips a lot on Instagram. You should follow. Her name is Aaron Wexler. Here she is talking about. She goes into a lot of these liberal type clubs, do comedy clubs. Here she is about this idea. Like liberals think they're like, oh, we'll forgive. You mean conservatives for telling people necessary but awful things. Well, for. We don't need your. For you need our forgiveness. Here's why. Check this out.

B (39:40)

In New York, I was always in

A (39:41)

rooms with liberals who just assumed I agree with them because I'm liberal passing.

B (39:51)

What I realized sitting in all those

A (39:52)

rooms is that liberals, they think that things are copacetic. You know, when we're in an office, you have a friendship with someone who has different political opinions than you do. They think it's because they're forgiving us for being evil. But what they don't realize is we're forgiving them for being retarded. Thanks, Aaron. Pretty much laid it out for us right there. She's fantastic, by the way. Check her out. And here's what we mean by liberals just acting like in saying things that are just imbecilic, but they sound good. Here is Premia Jayapal, congressional representative. Total clown. Here she is. Now, keep in mind, she could look this stuff up before she says it. You have this island nation of Cuba where the one thing about Cuba people want to do the most is escape from it. It's like escape from New York with Cuba in it. No, Snake Plissken, they can't get out of Cuba fast enough. Cuba, however, because it's led by communists like Jayapal, Bernie Sanders, Mamdani and others. It is this in their idea, not in reality. Their liberal idea. It is this island utopia. The health care system is the envy of the world. You.

B (41:10)

You're like, really?

A (41:11)

Then why the hell are people dying to escape? I mean dying, actually dying to escape. Here's Premia Jayapal saying, man, we really should look to the Cuban healthcare system. Really, should we? This is what happens when you live in the world of ideas. We'll fact check this. It's really easy. Check this out on global health for 10 years before coming to Congress. So it's an area that I'm very interested in. Cuba has a remarkable public health system. Lowest infant mortality, maternity mortality. Sort of the opposite of what the United States has. Really folks, liberals should be apologizing to us for lying to people about their stupid ideas. This is why, by the way, liberals want to overregulate and hate artificial intelligence. I used a different one today instead of Gemini, I went to ChatGPT and I just threw a simple question in there. Now the thing about ChatGPT, if you believe artificial intelligence is actually intelligent, that's why liberals hate it. Because they cannot have reality kick you in the balls. They only want to live in the world of ideas where Cuba is a utopian heaven for health care. I put this in ChatGPT. A screenshot of my phone. Does the Cuban health care system ration medical care? Yes. The health care system in Cuba does ration medical care because it's a government run system with limited resources.

B (42:27)

Really?

A (42:29)

Instead of rationing by price, Cuba rations care through availability, prioritization and state planning. This is like liberal chatgpt telling you the truth. It goes on. It's even worse what that looks like in practice in Cuba. Someone should send this to Jayapal. You would have limited access to advanced care like MRIs or special surgeries. Patients may wait longer or may not receive certain procedures. This sounds awesome. I don't know about you, but I'm thinking about moving to Cuba. Medication constraints, frequent shortages of newer reported drugs and greater reliance on older or domestically produced medications. Priority based allocation based care is distributed based on government guidelines and medical needs. And not every patient gets immediate access to the same level of care. Wow. Sounds like heaven to me. Of course she could just look that up. But when you live in the world of ideas and Iraq and reality kicks you in the balls, what do you do? You try to suppress reality. They want to overregulate AI because they they're like the Chinese Communist Party with AI. The biggest fear the Chinese Communist Party has about AI is they'll tell people the truth about Tiananmen Square and communism. You understand the liberal commies in the United States are the same way. They owe us an apology for lying to people. Folks. Jaya Paul is what happens when you live in the world of ideas, you know who was the biggest proponent of the world of ideas and always tried to suppress reality? Obama. Obama was amazing at this, and I don't mean that as a compliment. He had all these flowery speeches and wonderful ideas about campfires and marshmallow roasters and every everybody having a right to all this stuff, but could never actually implement them in ideas. Matter of fact, when he implemented an idea eponymously named Obamacare, it sucked so bad the Democrats recently had to shut down the government to pay for the expensive Obamacare they told you would be cheaper. Here's the great Thomas Sowell on the Democrats, Obama and the world of ideas. This is the difference between us and them. We deal with reality. All they deal with is white papers. Check this out. I see him as someone who all his life has been associated with and part of a group of people who

B (44:52)

fundamentally don't believe in the principles of this country.

A (44:57)

Not only people. The most obvious example, obviously, is Jeremiah Wright. People like Bill Ayers, whom he's, you know, tried to disavow, but people who fundamentally think that we're on the wrong track, we have the wrong principles, and

B (45:10)

we need to be changed whether we

A (45:12)

want to be or not. Tom, you mentioned Jeremiah Wright, his pastor at church in Chicago. You mentioned Bill Ayers, who was a former member of the Weather Underground terrorist. Exactly. What about his formation, his intellectual formation at Columbia, Harvard Law School?

B (45:31)

He himself says that he always sought

A (45:33)

out the most radical people.

B (45:35)

He worked as a community organizer.

A (45:37)

I don't think most people stop and think, what does a community organizer do? He doesn't organize a community. It's not bake sales. It's not bake sales. He's organizing. No, he's not telling people in the community how to shop better and stuff like that. He is mobilizing all the resentments, organizing them in order to put them into battle to get what they want from other people. Folks, now, why would I play a Thomas Sowell clip about Obama right now while talking about Virginia and the loss in the redistricting vote last night? Because when you live in the world of ideas and not the world of reality, where you can talk about all this flowery stuff, you never, ever have to go back and account for the idea being implemented into reality and failing like Obamacare because you just change the idea. In other words, if the idea with Obamacare, follow me here, originally, was we are going to lower the costs of health care and get everyone access to care. That's what Obama and his people Told you. And then the costs explode so much, the Democrats have to shut down the government over it. What did the Democrats do? They change the idea and they go, look, the Republicans are shutting down government because they don't want to give people health care. They don't mention the fact that the original idea of cheap health care failed. That's why they need more money. That is the benefit to the liberals and their entire communist movement about living exclusively in the world of ideas and ignoring reality. Why do I bring up Obama? Because here's Obama and in this X post in Twitter on gerrymandering, celebrating this victory or yesterday, encouraging people to get out to vote. Get out to vote, Gerrymander Virginia, steal away all these seats. He says, virginia, today's the last day to vote in the redistricting referendum. Make sure to vote yes. So you're like, oh, wow, Obama had an idea. Gerrymandering is great. It's so wonderful. We want to wipe out the Republican Party in Virginia.

B (47:28)

He.

A (47:28)

He even put out a post about it. Look, April 21, 2026. But here was Obama on redistricting when he had a different idea on redistricting. Here's the Obama video about gerrymandering when he had again, a different idea before he changed his idea to a new idea in contrast to his old idea. Check this out. By ending some of the partisan gerrymandering so that all voters have the power to choose their politicians, not the other way around. By the way, Virginia Governor Abigail Spamberger, another communist who ran as a fake moderate, did the exact same thing. Put out a Twitter post a while ago saying how gerrymandering was a huge threat, ran for office, saying she wouldn't do it, and then did it. This is the benefit of being a liberal. Run on ideas you can change like that. The liberal media and the doomers will pick up the new idea, forget the old idea and pretend it never happened. This clip of Tom Steyer just. This is one of my favorites. This is Dan's clip of the day today. Talking about myself like Bob Dole in the third person. Tom Stier is a billionaire. I have no problem with billionaires. Good for you. I just want to be clear on that. I love economic freedom and capitalism. Got it. Got it. Good. Okay. Stier's a billionaire. He's also a liberal hypocrite and a fraud running for the governorship of California. I want you to watch this very short clip, maybe 20 seconds or so. Tom Steyer could be the next governor of California. He's a Liberal billionaire running against billionaires, even though he doesn't donate his entire fortune away to not be a billionaire because he's a fraud. Because. Because he's got an idea. Billionaires are awful. In reality, he's a billionaire. The fact that ideas and reality don't connect doesn't matter because he knows the liberal media will cover for him. Except for this lady. This lady asked him an honest question. He's asked to confront liberal ideas in California, which have been implemented over the last few years by Gavin Newsom, one of the most liberal governors in the country. Now, Stier's a liberal, so you would think big government spending, social welfare in California, bullet trains to nowhere. That Steyer be like, man, Newsom did awesome. He's really liberal. I'm a liberal. I love liberalism. This is what happens. When asked to judge or give a letter grade to the reality of liberalism rather than the idea. Steyer finds himself in a little bit of a pickle. Check this out.

B (50:03)

What grade would you give Governor Gavin

A (50:04)

Newsom for the last two terms? I don't know. A through F? I don't know.

B (50:10)

I think that people have come to really appreciate how Gavin has stood up. You won't give us a grade? You won't grade him?

A (50:17)

No, I haven't. I haven't followed it closely enough to give him a grade. I haven't followed Josh. He hasn't followed. This guy is running for governor. He hasn't followed the governor's ship. I'm going to come on the show tomorrow, guys, and I'm going to be like, we're talking about sports today. I haven't really been following politics, Dan. It's a political show. Yeah, I don't really get into that stuff. Maybe you should find a new job then. You're running for governor and you don't follow Governor. Things. Stuff. Now, keep in mind, I. Josh, I don't know, maybe you're a conservative. I never asked Josh's politics, but he sounds like a pretty sane guy, so I'll assume he's a conservative. I sit Josh down and go, hey, Josh, judge for me. Give me a letter grade. In the last year of the Trump administration, I'm pretty confident. Give him an A. Like that. Would you give him an A, Josh? Yes, he would. Yes. He even said yes. Didn't take him long either. He was on the mic like that. Josh, what about the eight years of Ronald Reagan? Give him an A. A plus, B2. Josh, why wasn't that hard for you? Why'd you just have that answer that common sense. Why can't liberals grade other liberals about liberal stuff? Because they live in the world of ideas and when ideas become reality, they kick people in the balls. And the people getting kicked in the balls are like, I hurt that I got kicked in the balls. And Tom Steyer knows people got kicked in the balls by liberal reality and doesn't want to tell people that their balls don't hurt when they hurt. We don't have, we don't have that problem. We don't have that problem as conservatives. What do you think of the Trump administration's first term? A. A. I love it. I think it's great. Wow, Dan, that didn't take long. Folks, in the chat, what do you grade the. Honestly, what do you grade the Trump first year now that we've kind of wrapped up the first year plus, not gonna be hard for you. Keep in mind, some of you may have, some of you may. I don't know why you'd say, but some of you may say C or something like that. I, I disagree. I think it's an A. However, you won't hesitate to answer. Steyer doesn't even want to give a grade because he doesn't follow that stuff. He's a billionaire running against billionaires who wants to be the governor but doesn't follow the actual governor thing stuff. A, A plus solid. A A plus A plus, A plus, B plus A, A C minus. There's one. But A, A plus plus plus. I'm not sure that's a thing. However, the thank you folks in the chat, it's pretty overwhelming. Nobody's hesitating to put a grade out there, folks. I can't tell you this enough. This is the difference between us and them. And Aaron Wexler is right. This is why they owe you an apology. Because they live in the world of bullshit and you live in the world of reality where we have to tell people hard things like the world is full of trade offs. You want to tax the wealthy and take their money, there's a trade off. The trade off is there's a good possibility, possibility they're going to leave and you're going to raise less tax revenue. You want to tax them less even though they have the assets to pay it. Here's the trade off to you. You don't get a great political talking point because everybody wants to be jealous of wealthy people. However, they're probably going to put their money into growing their business and create more jobs. You have to tell people the truth. Liberals can just live in the World of bullshit. And liberals, by the way, get unbelievably angry. You see this all the time. We. When you confront liberals on their own bullshit, they get. I really like this content creator, Kaitlyn Bennett. You should follow her. We played a couple of her clips, so I want you to watch this. She goes out and she does this man on the street, woman on the street interviews. She's doing this interview, and it's about the threat in Iran. And she tells these liberals, here is a quote on Iran, but they don't know who the quote's from. They think it's from Trump. Like, man, that guy's the worst racist, fascist, monarch, loser, nazi, terrible. What's the problem? Problem is these quotes are not from Trump. Watch how angry they get when confronted about how their liberal icons all have really, really changing and morphing ideas all the time. Check this out.

B (54:40)

Iran is a destabilizing, dangerous force in the Middle East. Do you agree with him on that, at least? No.

A (54:46)

We would be able to totally obliterate them.

B (54:49)

That's a terrible thing to say, but

A (54:51)

those people who run Iran need to understand that. What do you think he meant by saying those people white supremacy, his subhuman people of color.

B (55:01)

He's becoming very delusional and honestly showing

A (55:04)

a little bit of signs of dementia.

B (55:05)

This is something someone with dementia would say.

A (55:08)

Absolutely. Had Kamala actually won the election, you

B (55:11)

think we would even be in this? Absolutely not. And they were not falling for this Iran stuff either. No. Hillary Clinton had just won in the first place.

A (55:19)

Maybe we wouldn't be in this mess. Yeah, I would go with that.

B (55:22)

If he had a kind soul. I think anyone can be beautiful, but he's not beautiful. He's not beautiful inside or art out.

A (55:30)

He's a horrible person.

B (55:31)

Did you vote for Hillary Clinton? Yes. Did you guys vote for Hillary Clinton?

A (55:35)

Yeah.

B (55:35)

We would not be in this position

A (55:37)

if she were president today or. Or Kamala. The man truly is insane. Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris said all of that, not Donald Trump. Really? Yes. That makes me very sad. Are you serious?

B (55:48)

They are not.

A (55:49)

Yes, they are. That's ridiculous. Yeah.

B (55:52)

No. Yeah, that's a gotcha.

A (55:53)

Good for you.

B (55:54)

You've never heard them say this, though. No, I haven't. That was a quote from 2008. Right here. I don't.

A (56:00)

You know what?

B (56:00)

Who. Who can believe what we read? Did you go to the cops about me?

A (56:03)

Yeah, I just wanted to see if you needed a permit.

B (56:05)

I didn't mean to make you cry.

A (56:06)

Crying, but it's shameful. What's shameful about it?

B (56:09)

There's nothing.

A (56:14)

Folks. It's shameful. It's shameful. Asking liberals to confront other liberals on their own ideas. It's shameful. Shameful. Kaitlyn Bennett, you're doing a public, you're doing a huge public service, folks. They live in the world of bullshit. I saw this article in the Wall Street Journal yesterday and listen, I love the Wall Street Journal op ed column but sometimes it's amazing to me, even in a, you know, center right, sometimes left leaning op ed column that reality kicks them in the face and they still ignore it. There's this article yesterday in the op ed section. It's about the upper middle class American dream, you know, like we withering away. It's by William Galston, who's definitely not a right leaning guy as far as I know reading his pieces over time and basically the gist of the article is that the housing market, the article's data is accurate. That it's getting very difficult for a middle class family to buy a home and afford education. And I thought to myself like how do you miss the big picture here? That the reason these two items are so expensive is, is they have something in common. There's the data on the screen right now about the cost of housing and education. Ladies and gentlemen, who is the biggest player in the housing and education market? Yes, the government do quasi government entities like Fannie and Freddie the mortgage backing the federal government engages in subsidizing education at every level. It's incredible. Like I like Galston's piece. I'm not knocking a guy personally. I, I just think like the premise at the end should have been the biggest problem here is government. That's where the footprints the biggest Then they complain about health care too where the footprints absolutely enormous folks. And then when they get caught on their dopey ideas again they say stupid stuff. Did you see that tweet yesterday from that Democrat senator Chris Murphy who just humiliated himself basically awesome. Celebrating what he thought was the Iranians sneaking through the strait. That was fake news by the way. So here's Chris Murphy confronted on that like you really you thought that was awesome is. Oh no, no. This is just sarcasm. And of course like liberal media folks will never hold them to account. If a Republican did this, forget it. There'd be a dismissal hearing from you, from Congress or the Senate right away. Check this out become kind of a cesspool. I probably should give up on sarcasm on Twitter. Obviously anybody that sees seen anything that I have said about Trump's war knows that I think it's bungled, mismanaged, and he should end it as quickly as possible. But sarcasm is not something, I guess, that's allowed on Twitter any longer. Do you regret the post?

B (58:48)

Are you planning on taking it down?

A (58:49)

Are you going to keep it up? I mean, I guess I just have to be more careful about sarcasm on Twitter. Sarcasm. Now it's sarcasm, folks. I don't. I don't believe that at all. And with this motley crew of losers running for 2020 put up that Echelon post in that tweet, folks, they're going to have a real problem because none of these people who are running at the top of the Democrat polling numbers for a 2028 Democrat presidential nod, none of these people have any ideas, I promise, that are going to make your life better. They will only make it worse. This just came out. Echelon Insights Poll. Look at this disaster. I mean, this is great for us, terrible for the world. If one of these people were to win, they have KAMALA HARRIS Number one at 22%, Gavin Newsom at 21%, Buttigieg at 12, AOC at 10%. Tell me one idea. Let's just pull Newsom out of that. Harris is already lost in the battle of ideas. Donald Trump crushed her in the last election. Throw that out the window and we don't know who it's going to be. Kamala Harris one or Kamala Harris two. She talks differently in front of every crowd she's in and the school bus. And let's go with Newsom. Newsom's ideas suck so bad. The far left liberal who's one of the leading gubernatorial candidates, Stier I just played. Can't even give him a letter grade because he's afraid to, because he doesn't want liberals judging him on stupid liberal ideas. That's how bad this is for them. So when One of the McGroin crew asked me earlier, Dan put a smile on my face today, folks, the deep state is getting crushed. Accountability is here. You live in the safest United States. Just pure numbers you've ever lived in. Foreign terror organizations are getting crushed. The Iranian mullahs are dead. Maduro sitting in a US prison. Inflation is tamed, but not totally under control, but better than it was in the Biden years. The stock market's at record highs. The border is completely sealed. We have zero illegal migrants admitted into the country. We have a sense of American strength and power. Our military's back under Secretary of War Pete Hagseth. The FBI is rescuing kids The FBI is locking up terrorists, locking up spies in record numbers. You can look them up yourself. They're dismantling corrupt organizations and fraud that have worked behind the scenes to screw up American politics for years. You've got a record to run on. In the real world. The left has nothing but embarrassing ideas that are so embarrassing, their own candidates don't even want to grade them. That should put a smile on your face. Now we got to go out and win in the midterms, and that requires us to vote and pull 10 people with you. No excuses. All right, I got the great Vince Colonnase coming up. You can check him out every day on Rumble at 8am@rumble.com Vince, one of our favorite guests. He's on every other Wednesday. Then I do his radio show. Quick break first. Oh, is it? Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Thank you, Justin. Look at this. They didn't tell me that. That is cool. Hey, I totally forgot, guys. Someone reminded me in the chat yesterday that tomorrow was going to be. Which is today now, of course, episode 2500. And I totally forgot. Thank you for putting that together. So before I get to the break and Vince, thank you very much to the audience. I didn't realize we'd done that many episodes. Been a long time we've been on the air. The first show, I think, was February of 2015. So it's been 11 years. So thank you so much for the loyalty and the support. That. That is a big. I would do the, you know, the fist pound over the heart, but my elbows don't work. So thank you. You guys are the best audience in the business. I mean, that. That is not some throwaway line on the show. Thank you so much. Episode 2500. Thanks guys, for putting that together. Very creative. All right, quick break. To talk about something I've started using. 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B (64:39)

Yeah.

A (64:39)

And you know, he was asking me about radio and you know why I made the decision to stick with the podcast. And you should read the article. I was like, hey, listen, man, there's no reason to go back to. Revince is killing it. He's done an amazing job. The show is spectacular. And you know, I said, go listen to Vince's show. You're not missing anything by, by not having me on the air. So, you know, the, the, the kudos go to you for, for carrying the torch on that. We really appreciate it.

B (65:05)

Well, I'm so, dude, I'm so grateful to you for saying that. And also so people really understand how this all works because I think, I think it's, it's hard to perceive how everything works behind the scenes. But fundamentally, the reason I'm in a position to host the national radio show now is because of what you did, Dan. You walked away from this. You go to the FBI. You asked me to take up two jobs. You're like, hey, can you, can you host the podcast for a time? And this radio show, I'm going to recommend you to Westwood. I think you're the great guy for it and they take your recommendation very seriously and they go with Vince and it's been a, it's been a success on radio. I'm so happy to do it and I can't for the rest of my life. I'll be indebted to you for opening that door that's been a big deal.

A (65:42)

Everybody did it for me. Not a. It's not a thing. I appreciate it. It means the world to me. The gratitude totally unnecessary. I'm just about the movement and Good Voices podcast is doing amazing. I mean, the number of live streamers you get at and the 8am slot is just, just incredible. So you live in that D.C. maryland, Virginia area down there. Virginia. Obviously, the redistricting wars did not go well last night. A little closer than I think the Democrats expected. You're now going to have a gerrymandered congressional map in your state of Virginia that looks nothing like the political breakdown of the state, which is about 55% Democratic. However, it's not over. There's going to be some lawsuits involved. I'm not optimistic about the Virginia Supreme Court. Also, Florida, as I discussed earlier in the show, Florida has, is moving in the direction of redistricting their map as well, which may offset some of the Virginia votes. But, Vince, listen, the Democrats are just really good at gerrymandering. I mean, they've done this forever and last night, not a great night.

B (66:44)

They can't win on the merits. They have to win with a rigged system. We've talked about this a lot. And, you know, you, you have said for years, the question that you would pose constantly to your audience for years was, is it bad enough yet? In other words, have the Democrats destroyed enough yet to wake voters up? And I think for a lot of voters, the answer to that is yes, it is actually bad enough. It's why 2024 was made too big to rig. It's why people elected Donald Trump to secure our borders, to deport all these bad guys, to get rid of all the murderers, to bring the homicide rates down. This is something you, of course, had a direct involvement in. Clearly, to a lot of Americans, I would say the majority of Americans, it is bad enough. But there's a highly concentrated group of Democrats, both at the top, the radicals who run the operation and their radical base who have substituted this party's politics for any kind of church service. I mean, it's their cult, it's their faith, and it's a darkness that is, I think, very difficult and in some cases impossible to get out of. I mean, the idea that you would take the wealthiest districts in the whole, the wealthiest counties in the whole country right outside Washington, D.C. give them all the power and crush all of the rural voters in Virginia, that's sinister stuff. It is power, politics, purely. The only principle is power here. And you've got a lot of sheep in the Democrat party who obediently follow this power structure. And I look at one more example of this, Dan, because I could go on forever. I often do. One more example of this. Remember last year Democrats elected Jay Jones to be the Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Virginia. Jay Jones, a guy who straight up fantasized about murdering a Republican speaker of the House and his children in cold blood in order to achieve political priorities. And they said, you know what? We like him anyway. We'll elect them. They elected him. Democrats did. So if you saw that election, last night's results, as much as we work to try and make it so that the map would stay fair, not a shock, given that Democrats are willing to elect a guy who fantasizes about murdering his Republican opponents.

A (68:47)

You know, one, there was a data point that jumped out to me. I heard yesterday from some commentary on Fox News. For me, I don't know who, but they said something to the effect of that the majority of the overwhelming majority of the now Virginia congressional delegation, these are your representatives to the member residents like you in the state of Virginia are all now going to live in northern Virginia within a 15 mile radius. Now, I know Virginia well. I lived in Maryland, obviously, right in the area. I would go to fundraisers for Virginia candidates all the time when I was running. Vince, when you go to southern and southwestern and southeastern Virginia, they have nothing in common at all. Yes, the Virginia residents are paying Virginia taxes. They have nothing in common at all. You have military facilities, you have farmland. It doesn't look anything like Alexandria or Arlington. I'm not saying better or worse. I'm just saying, like you have representatives that should represent your ag interests and other things, not necessarily representatives of like a condo HOA association or something like that.

B (69:50)

No, it's beautiful. I mean, it's a beautiful, it's beautiful country. Lots of American flags. The kinds of places where it's totally normal to keep your gun in your car. It's not that it's, it's a great, it's great country. It really is. And now it's going to be dominated by the ruling class. And what I mean by that is the people who are dependent. We're sucking off the tit of Washington who are all real close to DC because they're entirely dependent on American taxpayer dollars for their livelihoods and they've gotten filthy rich off of taking advantage of the taxpayers. That's what we're talking about. Northern Virginia. It's Democrat for two reasons. One is its dependence on government, of course, the More dependent you are on government to make your buck, the more you're going to vote for Democrats because of the party. A big government makes total sense. The other piece is it's highly concentrated with immigrants. They've brought in a ton of immigrants into Northern Virginia to make them Democrat voters. In fact, in Northern Virginia, where I live, I went to fill out my ballot, and when I did, and I, of course, enthusiastically voted no. There's four different languages on the ballot, Dan. There's four. You've got Vietnamese, you've got Korean, you've got Spanish, you've got English. It's. It's unrecognizable. I mean, you're. You feel like a stranger in your own country. And this is what the Democrats have built, and now they're exploiting it for

A (71:01)

their own power structure, you know, and the way the referendum was. Was worded was absurd, like, to promote fairness. Are you. Are you shitting me, bro? Like, really? Like, come on, just say what you're doing. I mean, you know, it's almost laughable, but you said something at the beginning of your original answer about how the Democrats can't win on ideas, and you're correct. Like, you really nailed the entire problem the Democrat Party has. Earlier in the show, I played some video of a California gubernatorial candidate, Tom Steyer, a billionaire. No problem with billionaires. However, he's running against billionaires, which is kind of weird because he is one. He's doing an interview with this California media representative, and he's asked a very simple question. Hey, give a grade to Gavin Newsom. Now, Tom Steyer, being a liberal, can't give a grade because Gavin Newsom is a liberal like Tom Steyer. And as you precisely and accurately noted, when you talk about actual liberal ideas, wealth, taxation, defunding the police, open borders, people hate them. So the California race is indicative of what you just said. We have to run on reality as conservatives, and we have to give people the harsh truth that life is about tradeoffs. Liberals just bullshit people, and when the bullshit comes home, they can't even grade their own candidates.

B (72:13)

No, it's true. This is why Cory Booker is pretending he's for tax cuts right now. It's like it's just a terrible scam, right? But in California, it's. California is kind of a perfect example of. Of what we've been talking about. The fact is, they got to rig elections. They just opened up the blackmail file on Eric Swalwell to run him out of the race because they're rigging the way the primary is being conducted. That's what's happening right now. And. And by the way, the fact that Tom Steyer is a filthy rich billionaire. He really is. He's one of the biggest donors in their party. If you go back through FEC contributions through the years, the Federal Elections Commission, you'll see Tom Steyer is right up there with Michael Bloomberg and George Soros and Reid Hoffman. He's one of the biggest donors that they have, which means he wields a lot of influence with the establishment there, which. Which it wouldn't surprise me that if he had something to do with Eric Swalwell's blackmail file getting cracked open, it also wouldn't surprise me if we see more blackmail coming for somebody like Katie Porter soon to clear her out of the race. Tom Steyer is desperate to get onto that ballot.

A (73:10)

That's.

B (73:10)

That's one. Two. To answer your question directly, the fact that he can't give a grade to Gavin Newsom means he knows that the grade is an F. If it was an A, he would tell you it was an A.

A (73:20)

Great job. You don't hide. You don't go to your parents to go, I am afraid to show my mom this. A or A minus. You're only afraid to show on the C or the F. Correct.

B (73:29)

No, it's like the old days where you run to the mailbox and you intercept the report card before it gets to your Paris. Now, this is exactly what Tom Stier is doing. He doesn't want people to know how crappy this all is. But the proof is in the pudding. The Pacific Palisades is still burned to the ground. It hasn't been rebuilt. You know, people are fleeing the state. It still costs a lot more to get a U haul to leave the state than it does to go in. I mean, the reality is California is a dumpster fire, and that is because Democrats have driven it directly into the country ground. And this is what Tom Steyer has to offer if he comes in. Tom Steyer is a radical. I. I don't care how much he tries to hide his positions on this subject. Just a week or so ago, he put out his immigration agenda, Dan, and it was to get rid of immigration enforcement. They want to arrest ICE officers. They're trying to destroy any semblance of a civilized community. That's what Tom Steyer has to offer. And Californians, if they have any ability whatsoever here, should keep him as far away from. From power as possible.

A (74:24)

Vince, you're on one of the best talk show stations in the country. My first love, wmal. They gave me a shot early on, you're there and then in the 12 to 3 spot, we were on there before you. I really hope, and I know you will, but that you will because that's that Virginia market too. It's the most powerful station in the area. I hope you just light them up for this today because Spanberger did not run on any of this stuff. So I know you will bear the torch for our listeners here and take that. You know, Vince, one of the things I wanted to move into as well is the SPLC case, Southern Poverty Law Center. You and I have been in this business a very long time, probably an equal amount of time. You've done editorials, you've done talk shows, you do tv. The Southern Poverty Law center has been just a real issue for a really long time. I would argue strongly that they've borderline defamed people. They've done these hate maps where they just like anyone who's a conservative, you could be find yourself on this map tomorrow. You had the Floyd Corkins Family Research center incident, which he directly cited them. I mean this has been an issue for a long time. So kind of like a two parter first just that issue in and of itself. And then second, you know, I get it. There's kind of a, it's hard for me to be objective here. However, as an activist as well, now being on the outside, as a media representative, the nothing is happening crowd is starting to look really ridiculous. We've now had BLM indictments, antifa successful prosecutions for the first time in US history. And now you've got a very interesting case in the Southern Poverty Law Center. Everyone's innocent until proven guilty. It's really hard to make the case now that the doomerism is panning out.

B (76:09)

I just, oh my gosh, I could talk about this for hours. So I'll try and constrain my views to a short reaction here. I love this. I love that the Southern Poverty Law center is finally under the hot lights of a real federal indictment. 11 count indictment. And my jaw dropped seeing this yesterday, just seeing what they've been accused of. They were funding KKK guys, neo Nazi guys. They funded the Charlottesville rally that led to that woman's death in 2000 and what was it, 17 out of control. Which of course, by the way, remember what they did, they blamed Trump for it. Trump was, Trump was the one condemning neo Nazis and the kkk. The SPLC was the one funding the neo Nazis in the KKK as a result of this indictment. It's just. Just amazing stuff. And you're right about the history here. I mean, if people take the long view of the Southern Poverty Law center, it actually started with a really noble purpose. It was started as a civil rights organization designed to actually protect the civil rights, especially of black Americans in the United States of America. That is not the mission anymore. And like a lot of organizations that we've seen on the left through the years, what happens is in the absence of the issue that they were founded on or that they originally fought for, they need to come up with some other issue in order to keep the money flowing. And in the absence of an issue that they can actually talk about that's real, they have to astroturf it. So the SBLC wants to tell everybody there's hatefulness all over the place, there's white extremism happening everywhere, there's KKK stuff everywhere. And people keep looking around going, I don't really recognize that.

A (77:38)

What.

B (77:38)

I don't see that anywhere. So what did they do? They fund it. According to this indictment, it was the SBLC that was funding it. This is Jussie Smollett at scale where they're just creating hoaxes for the benefit of their own organization because they're fleecing their left wing donors. Suckers who keep giving money to the Southern Poverty Law center thinking that they're fighting some noble mission. And meanwhile the Southern Poverty Law center is funding the very villains that they claim that they're trying to fight. I mean, it is. It's so crazy to me and it makes me wonder about a lot of things about the timeline. I was, I was looking back, Dan, and you were at the FBI when this happened last October. You guys cut the SPLC off, you said.

A (78:22)

I addressed that earlier in the show. I was trying to tell people like to the doomers out there, when I tried to tell people like, guys, this is a slow pro. Thank you fellas for putting it up on the screen. Now, October 3rd, you nailed it. 2025, FBI cuts ties with SPLC and anti defamation League. This stuff does not happen overnight, Vince. I mean, obviously I wasn't able to have frank discussions with you when I was on the inside side. You're my friend. I would have loved. I can.

B (78:49)

Yeah.

A (78:49)

Public paid meetings.

B (78:50)

By the way, I can promise you, I. That that was a deeply frustrating thing.

A (78:54)

It was. But because I. You're my friend, that I wanted to be able to say, hey, something. And you can't do that. It's not what I'm paid for. However, I know you were like itching to defend us too, and you were like, give me. And I just couldn't do it because I have to wait for this stuff to come out, become public. But, you know, just, I know this put the shoe on the other foot stuff doesn't work because the media doesn't have it. Chris Plant says that, you know, they have no standards at all. They just don't have any standards.

B (79:20)

Double standards.

A (79:21)

They wouldn't have standards at all. Yeah, Chris, great. Chris Plant. However, if this were just imagine there was like some right wing group, whatever, like Tea Party Patriots that got caught funding like the Daily Beast. I'm like, which isn't even like as bad as like the kkk. This would be like an intergalactic cosmic news story, like Close Encounters of the Third Kind. And the media is kind of like playing this whole thing off, like, no big deal. Funding these groups according to the indictment. No big deal.

B (79:49)

Well, it's, there's a, there's a combination of elements. So there's two ways to approach this. One is going to be the people you refer to as the Doomers. I mean, they're looking at this and just pretending like, oh, okay, well that's not a big deal. I'll get to them in a second. But on the, on the, on the left side, on that October headline that you just referenced when you guys cut the SPLC off, I remember at the time the coverage was, oh, the Trump administration is treating civil rights organizations terribly. They, they, they're like, it's a conspiracy theory. They're going after these great civil rights organizations because they're accusing them of wrongdoing even though there's no evidence for it. And of course now I'm looking and going, wait, there was a full blown FBI investigation into a criminal enterprise and the last group the FBI needs to be connected to is the SPLC for one. So that makes all the sense in the world. The other is that the sblc, like their defense, insofar as they're summoning one right now, is like, well, we were just paying informants so we could help take these organizations down. Really? Well then why were you laundering the money? Why were you creating multiple levels of shell organizations to get the money into the hands of your so called informants? Why is it that you were trying to conceal the funds? The answer to that is clearly because you didn't want people to know that you were breaking the law. You were trying to hide this from law enforcement. That's the answer to that. So this wasn't on the up and up. This was all designed to be deception in the service of your disgusting mission which has led to now multiple terrorist attacks. There's that. Now on the doomer side, kind of the people are like, you know, when are we going to get the money operations on the left taken down? When is somebody finally going to go after the guts of the left as they, as they lead all this chaos in the country? Ladies and gentlemen, hell freaking low. What is this? This when you take down the Southern Poverty Law center, which has been giving millions of dollars to the KKK and neo Nazis and violent attacks, what you're doing is taking down one of the preeminent operations on the left that's distributing this money in order to advance chaos, ultimately to advance power for the Democrat party. This is, I, I can't emphasize enough how wonderful this news is because this is justice and people should be absolutely rooting this on today. In fact, Dan, earlier on my show today, I was, I was saddened to have to bring the Virginia news to people. But then I was uplifted by the fact that I can conclude a lot of the program by telling them how much of a victory this SBLC thing was. It's epic. And God willing, it goes all the way through this court process and brings some real justice to this country.

A (82:19)

And I'm going to say, Vincent and I, you know, I'm not going to put words in your mouth, but I know you can attest to this. You know, we work together here. You don't work for me, you work with me. If you ever thought otherwise, I'd let you go immediately. You are an independent, powerful voice on your own. We're just better together than we are apart. But you were very fair to us. Even though I could share with you nothing about. You were very fair, but you were critical at times too. And I never called you and said, hey, don't say that. Because I meant what I said to people. Like, I appreciate you guys keeping us on our toes. And I was so confident. The reason I wasn't angry about you or anyone else for that matter. I was so confident in the body of work we were producing that it was going to take time but would eventually come out that honestly I wasn't worried about at the time. It hurts and you hear a lot of stuff from people. But I really appreciate you now also like getting to the audience your honest truth, like the Minnesota fraud. What happened? What do you mean what happened? There were hundreds of arrests we made at the Federal level. There's a massive JD Vance led task force. We've just made arrests in California. Antifa arrests. We had them in California. Successful prosecutions out of Prairieland, Texas, the blm, Oklahoma City case. These are, these are first of their kind investigations. So I'm not asking anyone to give cash or Todd or Pam or me or anyone else a pass on anything. All I'm telling you is as the body of work comes out, wait till the book ends before you judge the whole book.

B (83:38)

Well, also, I think there's something like, you know, people have this thing like confirmation bias or, or, I don't know how to describe it, but basically confirmation ignorance, where they will try and they'll suppress news headlines in their own minds that have occurred and they'll. And then don't include them in their assessment. So for instance, you. You mentioned just a great list of people who've been prosecuted. I think of all of the people who stormed into that church in Minnesota and, And menaced those Christians.

A (84:03)

They've all about that case.

B (84:04)

Every single one of them.

A (84:06)

Vince, I totally forgot about that. I'm glad you brought that up, because that didn't even come into my mind. I forgot. Lemon.

B (84:10)

Don Lemon was arrested. Asked Don Lemon about this is. Oh, the Justice Department. Are they enforcing the law? Hell yeah, they are. And then, and then you like, Lamonica McIver, who was arrested for assaulting ICE officers in New Jersey. Sheila Terfilis McCormick just resigned from Congress yesterday. She's under federal prosecution. Her trial starts in February of next year. She's looking at 53 years in prison for stealing $5 million in female funds. You had Kat Buga Zavaga, whatever, hell her name is up in Illinois. That congressional candidate assaulting ICE officers, arrested and prosecuted for that. You've seen James Comey prosecuted in the Eastern District. You've seen Letitia James prosecuted in the Eastern District of Virginia. And now we're looking at John Brennan under the hotlights of a grand jury investigation in South Florida. I just think if you exclude all of that from your analysis, then you're lying to yourself. Fundamentally, you're lying. What you're doing is you're. You know what it reminds me of? Information ignorance.

A (85:04)

Sorry to interrupt you. It reminds me of these, these outlets that try to paint right wing terror as the biggest problem in the United States. And they start the day after 9 11. They go excluding 9 11. And you're like, well, that's kind of a big data point to leave out. Like, no, I mean, I see this all the time. But I really do, I appreciate, you know, that we have enough of a friendship that you can be critical at times because there's no passes here. And I never asked you for that. I'm just glad to see. And one more thing. I gotta run. And I know you gotta run too, but I'm not in any way suggesting to anyone here, like, okay, good, like, let's pop the champagne. There's a lot of work left to be done and a lot of open stuff out there. I'm not suggesting. So you get the last word. But I don't want anyone to think I'm like, hey, please stop calling for accountability. No, no, no. That's not this show, and that's not me.

B (85:55)

You and Cash at the FBI are the inheritors of a, of a, of an agency with a shitty reputation, just an absolutely atrocious reputation. So every decision anybody makes in that role, to include you and Cash and anybody else the president could even imagine to fill those jobs, has to bear the awful reputation of the agency that came before you. That's just the reality of it. I know you know that. And so as a result, I've been very uplifted. I actually think Cash has done a good job by being as transparent as he can be. The FBI, by its nature, is a place where you kind of have to hold back, as you've been talking about, on what you can share with the public, because these are ongoing investigations you don't want to imperil. But one of the key priorities for the American people is having trust in that institution again. In order to secure it, you need to be overly transparent. And I think Cash has edged in that direction, which I appreciate.

A (86:48)

Yeah, I, I, I agree. I mean, we've released an unprecedented number of documents. Those are just mathematical facts. So, folks, you can check out Vince, and I strongly encourage you to do so. He dominates the 8am spot and the noon spot on radio as well, and podcasting. You can check him out@rumble.com. vince. He had a huge audience this morning. Top live streamer in the country. His radio show is national on hundreds of stations, including the great wmal. Send my regards. That's where both me and him got our start. Great radio station in D.C. vince, thanks so much. I'll see you on your radio show next Wednesday at around 2pm Eastern. Thanks for coming on.

B (87:23)

Thanks, Dan.

A (87:25)

Folks, thank you so much. That was a banger of a show today. And as I said to you yesterday, is it all starting to make sense now? Now do you see why they're going after Cash now. And I'm strongly encouraging you too, to stay tuned. Because none of this is done. And the attacks on Cash are gonna ramp up as the none of the stuff that's done starts to become something you can see that is done. Mark my words. Make sure you download the Rumble app or go to rumble.com bongino it's free. We'd really appreciate it. The video is exclusive to Rumble. Rumble.com Bongino give us a follow it is absolutely free to watch the show. You can watch it live at TV 10am or you can watch it on demand anytime. Thanks so much for tuning in folks. Big guest tomorrow. We have Dr. Marty Makari coming on to talk about psychedelics, a topic I am absolutely fascinated by. So don't miss that. See you tomorrow. Hey there.

B (88:21)

I'm Vince.

A (88:21)

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B (88:25)

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A (88:32)

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B (88:34)

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A (88:37)

Thanks for watching.