Podcast Summary: "Kristi Noem's Hearing Turns Into Full-Blown Circus"
VINCE | Episode 187 | December 12, 2025
Host: Vince Coglianese
Key Guests/Voices: Chris Garten (Indiana Senate), Kristi Noem (DHS Secretary), Benny Thompson (Democrat Congressman), Sri Thanedar (Democrat Congressman), Congressman Magaziner, Lydia Moynihan (NY Post), Lamonica McIver (Democrat Congresswoman)
Overview
In this high-energy episode, Vince Coglianese delivers his signature take on major Republican missteps, government dysfunction, and headline-grabbing controversies from the week. He dissects the self-sabotaging Indiana GOP redistricting vote, ongoing Somali fraud in Minnesota, and, most explosively, the spectacle of Kristi Noem's congressional hearing. Vince critiques both sides of the political aisle, lampoons key personalities, and highlights the stakes of the current political moment, all while keeping his lively, unapologetic, and sometimes acerbic tone.
Main Discussion Points & Key Insights
1. Indiana GOP Redistricting Fiasco
- Republican Self-Sabotage: Vince slams Indiana Republicans for failing to pass a redistricting bill that would have added just two more GOP congressional seats, calling their actions "brain dead" and "sclerotic."
- Political Consequences: Governor Mike Braun and major MAGA figures (JD Vance, Donald Trump Jr.) vow primary challenges against GOP defectors. Vince shares a list labeling Indiana state senators as "winners" or "losers" based on their vote ([10:00]).
- National Context: Vince contends Democrats have manipulated redistricting nationwide while Republicans "play Patty Cake" ([02:30]).
- Notable Quote:
- “If this were a game of basketball, Democrats have 14 players on the court. You have one. And the refs have already determined the score goes to the Democrats. That’s how they’re playing. And yet you’re just letting it go.” — Vince ([09:30])
- Grassroots Call to Action: "Let's primary these people. Let's get involved..." ([12:40]).
2. Minnesota Somali Fraud Scandal
- Massive Welfare Fraud: Vince discusses billions stolen from taxpayer-funded programs by Minnesota-based Somali immigrants, citing CBS investigative reporting ([16:00]).
- Lavish Spending of Stolen Funds: Fraudsters used the money for "luxury cars, private villas, lakefront property," and high-end vacations ([17:05]).
- Demand for Political Accountability: Vince wants politicians who oversaw and enabled these crimes held liable: "How about prison for every single corrupt official who made that happen?" ([20:30])
- Media & Whistleblowers: Vince notes that whistleblowers were ignored due to “politically correct” fears.
- Notable Quote:
- “They stole billions of dollars and they used it on joy rides, joy vacations, and all sorts of this nonsense.” — Vince ([19:55])
3. Kristi Noem’s Congressional “Circus” Hearing
- Hearing Disrupted by Activist Stunts: Democrats orchestrated repeated disruptions, including a protester dressed as a Catholic cardinal chanting "The power of Christ compels you,” turning the hearing into “a full-blown circus” ([21:44]).
- Democratic Congressmen's Tactics: Vince mocks Rep. Benny Thompson for calling the killing of a National Guardsman an "unfortunate accident" and for demanding Kristi Noem's resignation ([24:27], [26:58]). Rep. Sri Thanedar and Rep. Lamonica McIver also targeted Noem with hyperbolic attacks and smears ([28:00], [40:13]).
- Fact Checks & Media Debunking: Vince and NY Post’s Lydia Moynihan debunk the assertion (raised by Rep. Magaziner) that the Trump administration deported a war hero:
- Park (the alleged deportee) was never a citizen, lost his green card for crimes under Obama, and self-deported ([34:30]; see Moynihan at [38:04]).
- Vince’s Critique of Congress: Audience is urged to “double down, not blackpill” ("Don’t give up. Double down. The left definitely wants us to tap out. Do not tap out at all." — Vince [14:15]).
Memorable Exchanges
- Benny Thompson (on a killed Guardsman):
- “The unfortunate accident that occurred with the National Guardsman being killed.” ([24:27])
- Kristi Noem pushes back forcefully:
- “He shot our National Guardsman in the head.” ([24:46])
- Sri Thanedar:
- “If you’re not fired, will you resign?”
- Noem, wryly: “Sir, I will consider your asking me to resign as an endorsement of my work. Thank you very much.” ([28:49])
4. Gavin Newsom’s Self-Inflicted Wound on Transgender Policy
- Newsom's NYT Interview: Vince declares a Newsom interview clip "should be the end of his political career," where Newsom defends supporting trans-identifying children ([44:44]).
- Gavin Newsom: “I want to see trans kids. I have a trans godson. … There’s no governor that signed more pro trans legislation than I have.” ([44:57])
- Vince’s Furious Response:
- Child transition “should destroy whatever’s left of Gavin Newsom’s career. … Nobody, except the cruelest, most demented people … would dare say that a child is born in the wrong body.” ([45:11])
- Calls Newsom’s reference to a trans “godson” deeply offensive.
- Newsom’s Press Office vs. Elon Musk: Newsom's camp taunts Musk about his trans child; Musk responds by calling transition “a tragic mental illness caused by the evil woke mind virus you push on vulnerable children” ([47:55]).
5. Tyler Robinson - Charlie Kirk Case Court Appearance
- Courtroom Footage: Vince recaps the killer’s court hearing; trial will be televised following requests from Kirk’s widow. Vince notes Robinson’s apparent lack of remorse and calls him “a sociopath” ([55:36]).
- Public Interest: Vince and audience agree full transparency is needed in such high-profile trials.
Timestamps for Key Segments
| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|-------| | 02:30–13:10 | Indiana GOP redistricting fight, Chris Garten speech, party backlash, MAGA primaries | | 16:00–21:35 | Minnesota Somali fraud breakdown, luxury spending, accountability demands | | 21:44–41:35 | Kristi Noem's hearing: activist outbursts, faux cardinals, Congress attacks, smear campaigns, debunked veteran deportation | | 44:44–49:30 | Gavin Newsom’s transgender policy, NYT interview fallout, attacks on Elon Musk | | 55:30–56:40 | Tyler Robinson’s court appearance, call for a televised trial |
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Chris Garten, Indiana Senate:
- “You're damn right they are [political]... If drawing a map that secures two more seats for the Republican Party means that we continue to see overdose deaths drop by 20%, then I'll draw that map every single day of the week and twice on Sunday.” ([04:00])
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Vince on Indiana GOP:
- “This is sclerotic. It's brain dead. It's not at all focused on what matters for the country at all.” ([08:15])
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Kristi Noem, to Thanedar:
- “Sir, I will consider your asking me to resign as an endorsement of my work. Thank you very much.” ([28:49])
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Gavin Newsom (on trans kids):
- “I want to see trans kids. I have a trans godson. There’s no governor to sign more pro trans legislation than I have.” ([44:57])
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Elon Musk, responding to Newsom’s press office:
- “I assume you're referring to my son, Xavier, who has a tragic mental illness caused by the evil woke mind virus you push on vulnerable children. I love Xavier very much. I hope he recovers.” ([47:55])
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Lydia Moynihan, NY Post, debunking the war hero deportation claim:
- “The reality is Mr. Park...never chose to pursue citizenship...ultimately, he made the decision that he wanted to self deport…It was not like ICE raided his home, took him from his family and deposited him in a foreign land.” ([38:04])
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Vince on Kristi Noem hearing:
- “If I had the DHS secretary sitting in front of me right now...I'd have real questions for this lady, but instead, you get a bunch of fake questions and smears and personal grievances, and I hate Trump. So I'm going to express it here.” ([41:40])
Style & Tone
- Vince’s delivery merges sarcasm, deep frustration, rallying optimism, and conservative convictions.
- He’s sharply critical of Republican complacency, relentless against “woke” policies, and mercilessly mocks what he perceives as bad faith or hypocrisy from leftist politicians.
- He encourages listeners not to “blackpill” (give in to cynicism) but to remain engaged and fight back.
Conclusion
This episode captures America's high-profile partisan fights—from GOP infighting and Democratic grandstanding to culture war friction—through Vince’s energetic, irreverent analysis. If you missed the episode, here’s what you need: Indiana Republicans sabotaged their own redistricting, Minnesota's Somali fraudsters spent stolen tax dollars on luxury, Kristi Noem’s congressional grill devolved into performative chaos, Gavin Newsom outed himself as a radical on trans issues, and the public demands transparency in the Charlie Kirk assassination trial. Vince wants you engaged, informed, and ready to “double down”—not check out.
