Podcast Summary: People Keep Falling For These Hoaxes | VINCE, Ep. 210 (Jan 23, 2026)

Host: Vince Coglianese
Notable Guests: Carla Sands (former US Ambassador to Denmark)

Episode Overview

In this episode of VINCE, Vince Coglianese unpacks the week's chaotic political news with his trademark sharp wit and political insight. The major themes include recent high-profile arrests related to the raid on a St. Paul, Minnesota church, the legal wrangling over Don Lemon's possible arrest, growing calls for invoking the Insurrection Act amid Minneapolis unrest, significant updates on President Trump’s Greenland deal, and a breakdown of prevalent misinformation and hoaxes circulating around immigration enforcement.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Arrests Tied to St. Paul Church Raid

• [02:15-07:11]
  Vince details the arrests of activists Nakima Levi Armstrong and Chantille Louisa Allen, emphasizing their visible shock and dismay. William Kelly, another alleged organizer, is also arrested after recording a profanity-laced rant urging insurrection ("It's time to shut this country down. We are at fascism, the republic has fucking fallen" – William Kelly, [04:44]).
• Vince mocks the arrested activists:
  "Break the law, get arrested. The Justice Department moving on, all these guys." ([07:11])

2. The Don Lemon Arrest Saga

• [09:40-14:31]
  The Justice Dept. attempted to arrest former CNN host Don Lemon for his role in the church raid, but a federal magistrate judge, Douglas L. Miko—whose wife works for the left-leaning MN Attorney General—refused to approve the charge.
• Vince discusses the apparent judicial conflict of interest and outlines next legal steps, quoting Greg Jarrett’s prediction:
  "I thoroughly expect the DOJ to do one of two things here. Either bypass the magistrate by going directly to a grand jury for an indictment against Don Lemon, or go to a real district court judge..." (Greg Jarrett, [12:23])
• Don Lemon appears to taunt authorities (“Here I am. Keep trying...You’re not going to diminish my voice. Go ahead. Make me into the new Jimmy Kimmel.” – Don Lemon, [14:11-14:23]). Vince ridicules his delusions of grandeur.

3. Calls for the Insurrection Act Amid Minneapolis Chaos

• [15:45-22:56]
  Vince discusses escalating unrest in Minneapolis, citing activist and Antifa-linked violence directed at ICE officers. He replays an audience-generated question (posed by Mary Margaret Olihan to VP JD Vance) about whether the federal government is ready to invoke the Insurrection Act.
• JD Vance’s measured response:
  "What invoking the Insurrection Act would allow... is use the military for local law enforcement operations. Right now, we don't think that we need that... If the chaos gets worse, if more and more ICE agents start getting assaulted... that would be a real problem." ([21:27])
• Vince interprets Vance’s answer as evidence that the legal threshold is already met but political will is lacking.

4. President Trump’s Greenland Deal

• [30:33-41:32 | Guest: Carla Sands]
  Vince interviews Carla Sands for expert analysis:
  • Trump’s deal secures extensive US access and near-sovereignty in Greenland, locking out Russian/Chinese interests and granting the US rights to mineral extraction and military operations.
  • Sands notes the Greenland government wanted independence but lacked means; US security guarantees are a pragmatic win.
  • "It's amazing. He, you know, what he did... it's his negotiating style." (Carla Sands, [40:33-41:16])
  • Sands and Vince draw historical parallels to the LA Riots invoking of the Insurrection Act (1992) and warn that failing to restore order invites anarchy.

5. Scott Besson Vs. Gavin Newsom (Insults & Industry Critique)

• [45:05-51:34]
  Vince highlights Treasury Secretary Scott Besson’s relentless public ridicule of CA Governor Gavin Newsom at Davos:
  • Newsom is lampooned as "Patrick Bateman meets Sparkle Beach Ken," “Gavin Newscomb [and] a scum,” and repeatedly referred to as being stuck in the "cuck chair."
  • “Maybe [the knee pads] were for his meeting with Alex Soros...” (Scott Besson, [50:56]) – mixing political mockery with pointed homophobic innuendo.
• Vince and Besson both frame this as humorous evidence of the Trump administration deranging its critics.

6. Immigration Enforcement: Debunking Hoaxes

• [52:00-end] Vince meticulously debunks several viral hoaxes, including:

  • ICE arresting a 5-year-old as “bait”: Child abandoned by fleeing parent, protected by ICE, not used as bait – per JD Vance ([56:00]).
  • Family ‘tear-gassed’ coming home: Family members were participating in the riot for nearly an hour before gas was deployed.
  • Claims that ICE enters homes without warrants:
    "We're never going to enter somebody's house without some kind of a warrant. Unless... somebody's firing on an officer or... to protect themselves." (JD Vance, [59:40])

• Vince calls out prominent Democrats (Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Rep. Angie Craig) for spreading falsehoods to inflame public outrage.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• William Kelly, inciting unrest: "Get in the fucking streets now. It’s time to shut this country down." ([04:44])
• Greg Jarrett, on judicial bias: "A magistrate is really just a ministerial assistant. You know, he handles misdemeanors and warrants and empties the trash cans." ([13:19])
• Don Lemon, taunting DOJ: "Here I am. Keep trying... Make me into the new Jimmy Kimmel. If you want. Just do it." ([14:11])
• Carla Sands, on LA riots precedent: "You didn't see the police... It's as if they hid... they were overwhelmed... It took invoking the Insurrection Act... and everybody got so much more peaceful." ([32:18])
• Scott Besson, roasting Newsom: "I think Gavin Newsom may be cracking up with some of these things he’s saying. I think he may be over his hairdo..." ([50:56])
• Dan Bongino, on media idiocy: "These media people, they're like a full diaper all the time. ... These media morons ... never arrested some child predator or some bank robber or some gang member. ... Same day, murder rates all time low – the country's less safe. Do these people even hear themselves?" ([43:40])
• JD Vance, dissecting ICE “bait” hoax: "If the argument is that you can't arrest people who have violated laws because they have children, then every single parent is going to be completely given immunity... That doesn't make any sense. No one thinks that makes any sense." ([56:00])

Important Timestamps

• 02:15 – Arrests of Armstrong & Allen
• 04:44 – William Kelly’s expletive-laden rant
• 06:04 – William Kelly arrested on video
• 09:40 – Attempt to arrest Don Lemon blocked
• 12:23 – Greg Jarrett on legal options for DOJ
• 14:11 – Don Lemon’s taunt
• 21:27 – JD Vance on Insurrection Act threshold
• 30:33 – Carla Sands joins for Greenland discussion
• 32:18 – Comparing Minneapolis unrest to LA riots
• 41:32 – Recap of Greenland deal’s security impact
• 43:40 – Dan Bongino on media perceptions of crime
• 46:13 – Newsom mocked as “cuck chair,” knee pads, etc.
• 50:56 – Scott Besson’s zingers about Newsom
• 54:34 – Rep. Angie Craig amplifies ICE “bait” hoax
• 56:00 – JD Vance debunks the 5-year-old ICE arrest claim
• 59:40 – JD Vance debunks “warrantless home entry” claim

Tone & Style

Vince maintains an irreverent, combative, and sarcastic style throughout, blending ridicule of political opponents with strict earnestness about law enforcement and national security. The episode moves rapidly between humor, outrage, and policy critique, maintaining a sense of brisk engagement with a heavily-partisan, conservative audience.

Conclusion

The episode is a fast-paced, opinionated, and densely-packed briefing on the latest political flashpoints, laying bare what Vince perceives as double standards, judicial activism, and orchestrated media hoaxes. Regular listeners—and newcomers—are left with a detailed understanding of why Vince believes “people keep falling for these hoaxes”, set against a backdrop of energetic debate, sharp-tongued humor, and combative commentary.