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Hey, everybody. Welcome to Vince on a Thursday. It is so good to have you with us as always. We've got a big show ahead for you. The president of the United States is using a phrase that I've been encouraging him to straight up invoke, the Insurrection Act. We'll talk about what just took place in Minnesota overnight. More chaos there as the president says it is time to tackle it. Will he do it? Will he encouraging him? We'll talk about it. It's all ahead on this program. We'll also be joined by the Heritage Foundation's Dr. Kevin Roberts. A lot to talk about with him and a lot more to get to all on the show ahead. But first, I want to thank the great sponsors of this program. I want to talk to you about something I've been watching very closely. Will the Fed cut rates again this quarter? Everybody's got an opinion on that subject. But I like checking the actual market sentiment on Kalshi. I've got their app on my phone and the odds are saying that, you know, are taking a look at this thing right now and everyone's placing their guesses as to whether or not this is actually gonna happen. And honestly, I do think it's gonna happen. I think they're gonna make another cut. We'll see. Kalshee is one of the only places where you can trade on real world events in all 50 states. It's not just politics or economics. They've got markets on everything from inflation numbers to sports to pop culture. I like using Kalshee to track the odds and see what people are betting on. It's like getting a pulse on what the world thinks is going to happen. You can go to kalshee.com Vince and get a free $10 credit when you trade $100. That's kalshee.com Vince Once again, kalshee.com Vince K-A-L-S-H-I.com Vince, you must be 21 and the purchaser must be present in the state where the trade is placed. See Important disclosures@kalshi.com Kalshi is subject to US regulatory oversight by the CFTC. Unbelievable. Just the violence, the chaos, the rioting once again in Minneapolis. Overnight, more pandemonium. And here's how this thing begins. Yesterday we find out from Trisha McLaughlin, a spokeswoman at the Department of Homeland Security, that federal agents were attempting to arrest a man from Venezuela. I think you can safely assume illegal alien who, who was of course in the country illegally. The New York Times confirms In a targeted traffic stop at around 6:50 last night, 6:50pm local time, she said that he fled from agents. He made a break for it. When the officer caught up to him, Trisha McLaughlin explained, he began to resist and violently assaulted the officer. That is when two more people came out of a building and along with the man who they were trying to take into custody, the illegal Venezuelan began attacking the ICE officer. With a snow shovel and a broom handle, they began striking the officer. So now it's three on one. They've got weapons. What does the officer do? Well, they say he feared for his life and he fired shots and he struck the man, the illegal who the agents were trying to take into custody in the leg, said Trisha McLaughlin. So what happened after that is the agent and the man, the illegal alien. I'm reading from the New York Times. That's why I keep saying man. The agent and the illegal who was shot are now in the hospital, DHS says. And the other two people who were a part of attacking the ICE agent have been taken into custody. That was the precipitating event to all of the chaos that took place in Minneapolis last night. So an ICE agent just trying to do his job, take a violent Venezuelan illegal alien into custody. The illegal alien begins to attack the ICE officer after attempting to flee in the first place, and then is joined by two other people. We have no idea what their status is, who they are, but they come out and all of a sudden all of these people are attacking this ICE officer, including with weapons, broom handles and snow shovels. So the ICE officer defends himself, shoots the dude in the leg. So why are people even rioting at all? The guy shot him in the leg. Isn't that what Joe Biden told people that cops should do? Cut 11. You remember this? Here's Joe.
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And the idea that instead of standing there and teaching a cop when there's.
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An unarmed person coming at him with.
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A knife or something, shoot him in.
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The leg instead of in the heart, is a very different thing.
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There's a lot of different things that can change.
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Yeah, the old Joe Biden rule, shoot him in the leg. Why are we shooting people center mass? No more of that. Cops should be shooting people in the legs. Okay, so an ICE agent shot somebody in the leg. Now what? You gonna stop rioting? Oh, no, no. Things got really, really crazy overnight in Minneapolis. Watch here as anti ICE protesters and federal agents have to square off just craziness last night in Minneapolis. Cut four. Here's some of the imagery as you have crowd dispersal techniques, Crowd boom, boom, boom. Flashbangs going off, tear gas being deployed. This is. Rioting is happening all over the place in Minneapolis. Just crazy. And so that takes place last night. And then additionally, the mob began breaking into federal vehicles and stealing documents from federal law enforcement. Cut five. Watch this again. This is all just cops. And attacked them.
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Their whole battle, like, their battle plan out here.
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I guess.
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They got a hold of ice's entire. Entire, like, game plan for Minneapolis. They said in a packet. That's what. That's what Status Coup is reading. Okay, so that's what Status Coup might have been reading on their stream then.
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So you hear what he's saying? So thank you for that clip, guys. That's so. So you hear what he's saying there? He's like, look, they break into federal law enforcement vehicles. They grab documents out of the car, and then they begin reading them over their livestreams. He was referring to Status Coup. They were reading over their livestreams the various logistical details that this law enforcement had inside of its vehicle. So that's what the mob was doing last night. And not only are they seizing documents and then disseminating this law enforcement activity to the public, they're also ripping out the weapons lockers from the federal vehicles that they're breaking into. Some of these vehicles, of course, have a locker in the back to keep guns and other important items. And here's the mob ripping a weapons locker directly out of a federal vehicle last night and failing to crack it open. Cut six. Watch this. They strap it to the back of a truck. They. They put a tow rope around it. They yank it directly out of the back of the vehicle, and the mob jumps all over it just like a bunch of animals. And they have no idea. One of the wild things about this video is just how low IQ everybody who's involved is. They don't know how to open a box with a lock on it. Yeah, because it's locked, dummies. And they begin jumping and kicking it, jumping on it and kicking it. Is that gonna open a locked safe? Is it? Are you people really that stupid? And the answer, of course, is yes. The people. So many people on the ground are really that stupid. The collective IQ of that group probably doesn't break triple digits. We're probably still around room temperature for everybody. Here, look at this. And then they start trying to pound the lock with a hammer, and that doesn't work. And at one point, some dude picks up the safe and then throws it on the ground, thinking that the Safe is going to open. And then finally they meander away because they failed to defeat the padlock on a safe. And then they're like, I don't think there's anything in there anyway. So that they just surrender. These are not the toughest opponents ever. I just wanna be clear. They're not the smartest. It is possible to tackle all of this. It really is. In fact, the Trump administration last night deployed the Bureau of Prisons. Bureau of Prisons officers. In the absence of the Minneapolis Police Department being any of any use, last night, the Trump administration deployed the Bureau of Prisons to restore order. Take a look. Cut 7. Bureau of Prisons officials showing up. And you can tell because it says it right on their name tags. Look, cut seven. Yeah. Bureau of Prisons. What does it say on there? Oh, federal officer, Bureau of Prisons. So these guys would normally train to look after prisoners and stop prison riots. Here they are trying to stop a riot in the streets of the United States of America. That's what they were up to last night. You see those guys holding a pepper spray and police batons. They're wearing helmets. They got tear gas canisters strapped up. These guys trying to put down the mob last night. The riot certainly called into action and stepping up in the moment of need. But this discontinues, right? This happens in Minneapolis, and it's happening with the encouragement of local officials who think it's just absolutely wonderful. They're all in on this kind of chaos, and, boy, they hate you. They hate the American people. They hate the federal government. They hate law and order. Here's the mayor of Minneapolis last night. Again, this is all brand new information. It's crazy that we have a new news cycle on this subject every day, and it's more miserable than the last. Here's Jacob Fry, the mayor of Minneapolis, whining last night about federal agents cleaning up his city. Take a look. Imagine if that city or that town was suddenly invaded by thousands of federal agents that do not share the values that you hold dear. Imagine if your daily routines were disrupted. The local cafe that you eat at was shut down because they're scared that.
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Their own family might get torn apart.
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Imagine if schools shut down and suddenly parents gotta figure out what to do for daycare. Are you serious? Are you listening to anything he said? He's like, oh, just imagine if your state was invaded. Now he's saying, by ice. You know, a state that's been invaded. Minnesota. You know, a city that's been invaded. Minneapolis, you know by whom? Illegal aliens who should not be in our country at all. And then he goes on to say, like, what are parents gonna do if they need to take their kids out of school and send them to daycare? Daycare. You wanna talk about daycare in Minnesota? The daycare system in Minnesota is rife with fraud. Somalis have been stealing money to the tune of 9, 10, upwards of $20 billion. And you're talking about daycare? Please. You're disgusting. You're disgusting. And Jacob Fry, how else can you look at this other than he's advancing evil? The Soy Boy mayor is the face of evil in Minneapolis. And then you've got the limp wristed governor of the state, tampon Tim Walls, who last night, even before the rioting, he gave an address to the nation urging Minnesotans to accost ice wherever they go. Listen to Cut 9. Here's Tim Walls last night amidst the rioting. Even ahead of it tonight, I want to share another way you can help witness.
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Help us establish a record of exactly.
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What'S happening in our communities. You have an absolute right to peacefully film ICE agents as they conduct these activities.
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All times and if you see these ICE agents in your neighborhood, take out that phone and hit record. Help us create a database of the atrocities against Minnesotans. Not just to establish a record for posterity, but, but to bank evidence for future prosecution. Atrocities to bank evidence for future prosecution. These are criminals, says tampon Tim Walz, the governor of an entire state, creating more conflict against federal law enforcement who are doing the job. And what job are they doing? They're taking rapists off the street. They're taking child sodomizers off the street. They're taking murderers off the street. They're getting illegal aliens out of our country and they're making our country safer. And on whose side do you stand, tampon Tim Walls or Mayor Soy Boy? Where are you guys standing? You're standing on the side of the criminals. That's what you're doing. And then for him last night, he thinks he's being so clever. He's like, just get out there very peacefully. Record ICE as they do their jobs. You know what he's calling for. This is not. This is like the cleanest, clearest dog whistle ever heard. The guy's telling people accost ICE officers, get in their faces, make their jobs more miserable. Record them, act like they're the bad guys. Try and basically hector them away from this community. Do everything you can to prevent federal law enforcement from doing the job that the American people want them to do. That's what Tim Walls is calling for. So we've got an insurrection on our hands. I've been as crystal clear about this from the moment it began as he can possibly be. He this is an insurrection. And the President of the United States should invoke the Insurrection Act. The Insurrection act dates back to the early 1800s. It is a law that allows the President of the United States to restore order where there is none, where insurrection is taking place in the United States of America, and invariably throughout US History, that includes government officials who betrayed their oaths of office and have either declared war or implicitly are waging one against the people of the United States. In other words, they're staging an insurrection. The Insurrection act has been invoked 30 times in American history. 30 times. And the only time governors have ever protested it, they've all been Democrats. Whether it's Orval Faubus or George Wallace, it's always Democrats who oppose the invocation of the Insurrection act to restore order in the United States of America. In fact, no Republican governor in American history has ever objected to the invocation of the Insurrection act to put down an insurrection in their own state. No Republican has ever objected to it. Democrats routinely, and we're seeing it again in this century. Tim Walls opposes President Trump's invocation of the Insurrection Act. He said it many times, don't send the troops in. Don't try and restore order, don't help us at all. But help needs to be on the way. And we got some indications overnight that the Trump administration is definitely moving towards something. Now, I gotta be honest, I'm dissatisfied that we're already not at that something. I'd like to see it happen yesterday, a long time ago. But here's the progress we've got right now. Last night, Todd Blanche, who is the Deputy Attorney General of the United States Department of Justice, posted on X that he is now seriously going after Jacob Fry and Tim Walls. Here's what Todd Blanche said. He said ICE operates in thousands of counties without incident. Thousands of counties, men and women doing their jobs, protecting us from criminal aliens. Minnesota's insurrection is a direct result of a failed governor and a terrible mayor encouraging violence against law enforcement. It's disgusting, says Todd Blanche. He's right. He's right. All of this is correct. All of this is unimpeachably correct. He says, Tim Walls and Jacob Fry. I'm focused on stopping you from your terrorism by whatever means necessary. This is not a threat. It is a promise. Now, for the Deputy Attorney General to say this of The United States Department of Justice, Not a small thing. What we now have is the second in command at the Justice Department openly referring to Tim Walls and Jacob Fry as insurrectionists, and he's accusing them of terrorism. He says, I want to stop you from your terrorism by whatever means necessary. He says, this is not a threat, it's a promise. Fine. A promise of what? What happens when next? What is the United States Department of Justice going to do about this? What can be done that's within the control of the United States Department of Justice? Will you be bringing charges against the governor of the state? Will you bring charges against the mayor of the city of Minneapolis? Perhaps you'll bring charges against people like Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of the state, who's been caught on tape collaborating with criminals who are defrauding the taxpayers of not just Minneapolis, but the United States. Are there going to be charges? Do you have the attorneys you need? If you don't, what help do you need from us to get them? We're all in this together. This is our country. What do you need from us to make this happen? Just tell us. We'll help you. This audience stands by to help you. Whatever you need, just tell us. Who do we need to contact? Who do we need to browbeat? Say the word. We're in. And it's not just the Deputy Attorney General of the United States who's now sounding the alarm in this way. President Trump this morning has added his voice to this subject. 8:04am Eastern Time this morning, President Trump consuming everything I just shared with you, the scenes of rioting in Minneapolis, just the atrocious behavior of the Democrats who lead that city and state. Here's what he said today on Truth Social. If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ICE who are only trying to do their job, I will institute the Insurrection act, which many presidents have done before me, and quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking place in that once great state. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President djt I love President Trump, greatest president of my lifetime. I have so much to be thankful for about his administration, but this one's always bugged me. President Trump has brought up the Insurrection act many times. Many times he's brought it up. President Trump has never once invoked the Insurrection Act. Has he deployed troops to help try and bring about peace to America's cities? Yes. And he's engaged in all sorts of legal battles, including with the governor of California and other states as he attempts to do that. Has he deployed the National Guard? Yes, he has. He's attempted to restore peace in America's cities through using all sorts of resources that he has access to as the President of the United States. But up until now, and including now, he still has never invoked the Insurrection Act. There's a theory in Washington, one of the reasons he hasn't done it is because that Republicans, or perhaps President Trump himself, are worried about the political consequences of invoking the Insurrection act. That somehow the American people would turn against him if he did that, and that it would be to his detriment in the midterms. I'm here to tell you that that it is to your detriment not to restore order. Why do you think the left wages so much chaos? Why do you think they choose election years to do it? What was happening in 2020, the George Floyd riots were designed to leave an impression in the mind of the American voter that nobody was in charge in this country, that the chaos would redound to the consequence. It would hurt, it become a liability for, and it certainly did for President Trump, that he owned the chaos by virtue of the fact that it was happening while he was President of the United States. The left intended that to be the impression that voters were left with, and some definitely were. The consequences of allowing chaos to continue politically are far greater than any sort of political liability that might come from restoring order. And the other thing to remember is exactly what President Trump just said in this post. Many presidents have done this before him. He's right about that. If you read any of the covers this morning that is talking about President Trump, they don't tell you that. They spend a lot of time saying things like, and I swear to you, I read Legacy News covers this morning, and I was like, these people are either liars or completely ignorant. They'll say things. They'll reference the fact that the Insurrection act is a law that dates back to 1808 or whatever year it was passed originally, as if it's so antiquated, I can't even believe President Trump is attempting to use it. That's the implication that they're trying to leave the reader with. Or they'll say things like, which requires the governor to request assistance in order to put down the insurrection in their state. Yeah, no, that's not true either. I've already explained this. Democrat governors have routinely, routinely, oftentimes, in the interest of advancing segregation and racial hatred, have routinely advanced insurrections and rejected the president's invocation of the Insurrection Act. Those presidents did it anyway. They did it anyway to restore order in the United States of America. Republican governors, insofar as they had insurrections in their state, they would request help. In 1992 during the Rodney King riots and the LA riots, you had a request from California Governor Pete Wilson to George H.W. bush in order to invoke the Insurrection act, and they did so. That was a time when a president and a governor were collaborating, and it turns out those were both Republicans collaborating in order to restore peace to the west coast of the United States. This is not, unfortunately, unusual. Has it happened this century? No. But if there's ever been a time to do it, President Trump should, should do it now. Do it now. There's been a lot of talk. What we want is action. We want our country back. The American military just flew into Venezuela and in the course of what, 90 minutes was able to capture Maduro and his wife and get them out of the country. In Iran, we disabled nuclear facilities in a 15 minute bombing campaign. The United States government is capable of incredible things if it sets its mind to it. We've got something. We have a crisis on our hands here in the United States of America, and now is the time to do something about it. We don't want a police state. We don't want tyranny. We don't want our country being destroyed by government or citizen or illegal. We don't want any of that. We want order restored. We want our country back. And we voted for you, President Trump, to help make that happen. So please do, Please make it happen. All right, more ahead. More ahead on this edition of vince. Including, like Tim Walsh. Man, has that guy ever done anything right, even in his tyrannical statements. The guy screws it up. They screwed up the entire broadcast last night. It was a complete dumpster fire. I've got that for you. And so much more all ahead on this edition of vince. You know, every day Americans make choices that shape our country's future, right down to which cell phone provider we support. And here's what people don't realize. Here's what a lot of people don't realize. Patriot Mobile isn't just a wireless provider. They're a Christian conservative organization that sells top tier cell phone service. They're great. They've been on the front lines helping to defend our freedoms long before it was cool. Standing in the gap when others would not. When others would not. You know, the best part is this. They deliver prioritized premium service on all Three major US networks giving you the same or even better coverage, backed up by 100% US based customer support. Get unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming, and more. And when you switch to Patriot Mobile, you're going to support a company that helps fuel the Christian conservative cause and advance Patriot Mobile's values of faith, family and freedom. Switching is easier than ever. Activate in just minutes. Keep your number, keep your phone or even upgrade. Take a stand today. Go to patriotmobile.comVince or call 972-PATRIOT. Use the promo code Vince and get a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.comVince or Call 972-PATRIOT and make the switch today. That's right. Make the switch today. Thank you, Patriot Mobile. Yeah, so a couple of other elements here. Tim Walls livestream last night. You know, this like, speech he gave where he told everybody they need to spend all their time accosting ICE agents, which of course is a complete, A complete mess. This is an insurrectionist mess. The stream broke down. So I don't know what the hell's going on in the Minnesota governor's office, but they don't even know how to broadcast their own speeches. Watch this cut 10. This video no longer exists because they deleted it from the Internet. They went full George Orwell on it. They thought maybe if we just drop it then the memory hol hole, nobody will see it. Yeah, we saw it. Watch this cut then. So tonight, let me say once again, Donald Trump and Christie. No.
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Four things I want you to hear as you watch the news and look out for your neighbors first. And Donald Trump wants. All right, enough of that. You hear that confusion. I don't know what's going on. They're looping his voice so it's like impossible to understand any words coming out of his stupid mouth. The whole thing is just like a complete. A complete mess. And I posted on X this morning. Okay, how about this? Forget. Forget trying to, you know, to list all the things he screwed up. Why don't we just list the things Tim Walls has done correctly? Why don't we just do. That'll be a simple list. What has Tim Walls done correctly? Is there anything. Have you ever seen him load a shotgun? Has he ever actually served in combat? He lied about that. You know, does he not wave? Has he ever not pranced as he flitted about on stage? What has Tim Walls ever done Correctly. I'm not sure there's an answer to that. I don't know if he's done anything correctly. Yeah. How did he become governor? Kind of. Yeah, he lost the election, says me, in 1976. Yeah, that's true. He did do that correctly. He lost the election. And he wasn't again. He. Nobody even voted for him or Kamala to become the nominees of those party. Yeah, that's good. Oh, and he dropped out of reelection. Yeah, he did drop out of reelection in Minnesota. So I guess those things he did do correctly. All right, so he's got some things on the list. Lefties are going crazy. You see the tool of the week? You know about the toll of the week? This guy Isaac just looked at me. He goes, no, I don't know who's the toll of the week. Ready? Here's the tool of the week. This dude, he drove four hours, one way to come to Minnesota. Meaning it's eight hours round trip. Eight hours of driving. He did eight hours of driving, burned eight hours of gas to stand outside of a random Mexican restaurant in Minnesota to protect the Mexican restaurant from ice. Now, there's no reason to believe that ICE was gonna show up at this restaurant. The only thing that would lead you to that conclusion is if you're a racist who assumes that ICE is only targeting people because they're Mexican or something. Here's the tool of the week. Cut to Paul. You came in from Madison, Wisconsin. That's a long drive. Help explain to me why you're here outside of this business right now.
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And this is a Mexican restaurant and grocery store. And, Paul, I see that you have a lot of equipment on you. You have a camera, Obviously, you have another GoPro back here. This acts as a whistle. You were telling me. And you've also got a furniture first aid kit. Why is he dressed like a lib version of the brawny man? What the hell was that? I got to pull this up. Justin, if we could do a comparison here. Can you. Do you see this? Justin, could you do this side by side for me? There's.
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I guess this is the. The modern version of the brawny man. Now show me that kid. If he could. Is it Possible. I'm asking Justin to pull off a lot here. We didn't even discuss this before the show, but I'm looking at this dude and he's like. He is. What's the. What's the word? He's like a flamboyant version of the Brawny man, except that guy couldn't fight his way through a paper towel. Look at him.
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That's great. Anyway, so he. Man, talk about all the gassy. And what is he doing? You see all the cameras the guy's got on him? He's got a GoPro on his shoulder. He's got like a Canon digital SLR around his neck. I think he's got a rape whistle on his neck, too. And he's standing there. He's standing outside of a Mexican restaurant. And what's he gonna do? Like, so if ICE showed up, what does that dude do? I can see you. I'm capturing you on camera. Okay. Yeah, you keep it up, Ronnie, man, you're doing great work over there, son. That's amazing. Boy, it's a good thing Donald Trump made gas so much cheaper. That's the silver lining in that saga. All right, more, more ahead on the program, I've got the great Kevin Roberts joining us from the Heritage Foundation. We'll get his impression on what the heck is going on in America and what needs to be done to rescue it. He thinks about it all the time. That's why he works at a think tank. It's called the Heritage Foundation. We'll talk to him in just a moment. Hey. This episode's sponsored by Zipix Nicotine infused toothpicks. A clean, convenient, surprisingly satisfying way to curb nicotine cravings without smoke, without vapor, and without the long list of synthetic ingredients found in most modern products. You know, Zipix toothpicks, totally changing the game. There's no smoke, no vape oils. Just a few simple ingredients and quality plant derived nicotine. And you can use them anywhere. They're a toothpick. Even where smoking and vaping are banned. Hint, hint. On an airplane. How about that? A little toothpick action. It's great. Choose from six delicious flavors, 2mg or 3mg of nicotine for a slow, controlled release. Zipix satisfies oral gratification, the hand to mouth habit associated with smoking or vaping. It tastes better than pouches. It's not going to damage your gums. It's proudly made in the usa. Yeah. And if you're not a nicotine user, if you're like me, Zypix also offers caffeine and B12 infused toothpicks. I love these things. A little after lunch, pick me up, huh? Clean the teeth, get caffeine. It's great. Get a quick boost, Give your lungs a break. Try Zipix nicotine toothpicks today. Just get 10% off your first order by using the Code Vince at checkout only@zipixtoothpix.com you must be 21 or older to order. And look. Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Zip more smoke glass with Xipix nicotine toothpicks. Thank you to Xipix. And I gotta get those toothpicks over to Chris Bedford when we go hunting. He's like, I want those. I was like, yeah, I got them. I'll bring them to you. And I've also been using the Bone Charge infrared sauna blanket. And Allison uses the Bone Charge red light face mask ever since they sent them to us. And we love them. Can't recommend them enough. That sauna blanket has been excellent. Excellent. Because I have a sauna at home. It's a blanket. I just plug it in and let that infrared heat work. It's magic. It's great. It's created a real difference for me in how I relax and rejuvenate and how I feel afterward. Allison loves the red light face mask. She uses it every night. It reduces her skin's inflammation. It improves your skin's texture. It's made fantastic results. It's like having a mini spa treatment right at home. It's like. So if you're thinking about trying either of these great products out, well, you're in luck. You can head to bonecharge.com, b o n charge.com, use the code Vince at checkout. Get 15% off. Both of these products have made a huge impact on us and our wellness. I think you're gonna love them, too. Use the code vince@bonecharge.com Save 15%. These statements and products have not been evaluated by the fda. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or condition. All right. Thanks to Bone Charge. All right, and welcome to the program. The excellent Dr. Kevin Roberts. He's the president of the Heritage foundation, where they're always staying busy thinking up all the important ways to rescue our nation. Kevin, great to have you with us on the show.
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Sir, as always, it's always a pleasure. Thank you for what you do to be part of taking back America.
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Well, you know, I'm reeling this morning. I'm sure you are, too, seeing these images yet again out of Minneapolis. We get more rioting overnight. And why are they rioting? They're rioting because a law enforcement officer, ICE officer, had to defend himself from a mob of people who were looking to hurt or kill him. They were striking him with poles and with snow shovels. And he fires his weapon, hits an illegal alien, violent illegal in the leg. And now there's riots in Minneapolis. And the president this morning says, you know what? It might be time to think about finally invoking the Insurrection Act. And I don't know if you have a position on this, Dr. Roberts, but my position is he should have done it a while ago. What do we need to do here?
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Well, something definitely needs to change because at its most fundamental, as you outlined, Vince, this is one of the most egregious violations of the rule of law that I see certainly in modern American history. And it is as simple as the A federal law enforcement agency with jurisdiction, especially over illegal aliens is not only not being cooperated with by local law enforcement, but in many jurisdictions in this country, obviously in Minneapolis and across the state of Minnesota, those law enforcement leaders are actively undermining their work, thereby putting into jeopardy the lives of those federal law enforcement agents. So the president, I think, is entirely right, morally, ethically, to be thinking about doing something like invoking the Insurrection Act. I'm hopeful that there can be additional steps as well. But ultimately, if you take even one step back, additional step back, you realize the American people have had enough of this. They really do want law and order. And ultimately these jurisdictions that are sanctuary cities and states and counties stand in the way of Americans public safety.
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And also, you know, our media have a way of scandalizing anything that Donald Trump does and acting like it's would be somehow unprecedented. It's not unprecedented to invoke the Insurrection Act. I was just going over the numbers again today. The Insurrection act has been invoked 30 times by American presidents in our history. Many of those times have been in the last century. And insofar as there's been recalcitrants from governors, it's always Democrats, whether it's Orval Faubus or it's George Wallace. Basically, Democrats constantly foment insurrections in American history. And it's often Republican presidents, but sometimes Democrat presidents who have to invoke the Insurrection act to put it down. That's just the way things have been. President Trump wouldn't be doing anything unusual here, would he?
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No, he wouldn't be. I mean, to your point, there's a long history of invoking the Insurrection act heritage. My colleagues be publishing an analysis of this particular situation later today. But so therefore, I'll answer this as a historian of this country. As you know, the reason the Insurrection act exists is precisely because. Because of what's going on in Minneapolis, which is to say, where the federal government has jurisdiction, particularly as it relates to public safety and the rule of law. Occasionally in our republic's history, cities and counties and states have violated that. And so if, in fact, we settled something in the American Civil War, which is that the federal government has this authority, then if you believe in the rule of law and you call yourselves as the Democrat Party does, the party of democracy, then it seems to me that something has to impose that rule of law. That's why the Insurrection act exists.
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So one of the things that we're watching these Democrat leaders do is they issue these statements that they. I think they think they're being very clever. Tim Walls last night was urging people in Minnesota to get in the faces of ICE officers. But he said things like, well, do it peacefully, but take your camera out and then record everything they're doing. So we can use that in prosecutions of these ICE agents. Now, nobody with any sanity about them whatsoever thinks that ICE agents are guilty of any violations of the law here. In fact, they're taking child rapists and sodomizers and homicidal maniacs off the street. That's what they're actually doing. But Tim Walls will say things like that. Jacob Fry will tell people to continue to protest and tell ICE to get out of these communities. It does seem like these government officials are very much a part of. Of fomenting the chaos we're seeing.
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Oh, I think they're totally guilty of that. And it's really important for people to understand on a practical level what having a sanctuary city or a sanctuary state does. What it means is it makes it that much harder for ICE agents to actually find the felons, the worst of the worst, among the illegal aliens, which then means you have to round up all of the illegal aliens and process them, and you continue to undermine the common good. But the key point you're making, Vince, about the governor, the Attorney General of Minnesota, the mayor of Minneapolis, who, in addition to being a goofball, is also fomenting unrest. There has to be an account. The American people are upset not just with the loss of life and not just with the disorder, but the fact that this is Such a pattern. And it's being fomented by a political institution, the Democratic Party of Minnesota.
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So why is their base so susceptible to this? I. Maybe that's kind of a sociological question. There's certainly implication for American politics. Why are there so many lefties who do take to the streets? People like Renee Goode who think they're engaged in some sort of righteous holy war. And she parks perpendicularly across the street to try and block ICE agents from doing their job. They give her endless minutes of patience as they ask her to move her car. She doesn't. They go up to the vehicle, finally try and get her out of it. She guns it into one one of the ICE agents, and of course, he opens fire, rightfully defending himself and his fellow agents. What leads a woman like Renee Goode to do this? How does this happen in America at such scale?
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I think there are two huge factors that play into that. The first is politics has become their religion. This group of people, largely speaking, I'm sure there are exceptions, are people who have among the lowest church attendance in the country. They're part of the acceleration, a lack of religiosity. And what that means is that that's going to be replaced by something. And that something has become politics, which is just an awful thing to worship. Right. That's not an altar we want to build. But the second thing is, and you know, I'm going to answer this as an educator, too. You can't love what you don't know. And so two generations of not only poorly teaching American history and civics and. And philosophy and economics, but actually using that time for other projects like indoctrination have finally come home to roost. This is what we're confronting as the rotten fruit of that miseducation of the American populace for such a long time.
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Okay, this brings me into something that I know you're focused on right now, and it's the restoration of the American family. Because I do think that that's at the epicenter of a lot of the problems we're seeing. What has been the trend in family formation in the United States? What does that look like? Are people getting married? Are they having children? I mean, are they going to church? What does that trend line look like? And what is Heritage doing right now to try to address this?
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Well, and you're right that it's completely connected to this dynamic of someone like Renee Goode, because what's happened during this period of miseducation is the deterioration of institutions, schools and universities, but the deterioration of the greatest institution in human life, and that's the family. And so what we're saying at Heritage in this landmark study we released a few days ago, Vince, is that in addition to very important cultural, economic, social factors that play into someone's decision about whether they will be married and if so, if they will have children, is a set of government policies at the federal level that have disincentivized marriage and childbirth. What we're arguing, bottom line at Heritage is that we want to invert those policies and actually eliminate those disincentives and use a couple of tax credits to incentivize what we think will be a modest uptick in marriage and birth. If we do that, and if we see an improvement in those even more important factors of culture, society, and economics, I think we can see a reversal in this downward trend of the American family.
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I mean, marriage and having married parents, they really are kind of the single biggest indicator of whether or not a country succeeds. Anyone who's taken any look at this at all. It's like the social science on this, the economic science on this is if you're born, if your child born to a family with a single mother, for instance, your chances of being in poverty are very high. And especially if you start in poverty, your chances of staying there are sky high. But if you're in the lowest quintile, for instance, if you're a poor child, poor family, but you have two married parents, your chances of making it to the highest quintile, the top 20% of the country, are even odds. You have very high odds of making it there. And it's all dependent on whether or not you have married parents. It really seems like one of the most important ingredients to our country's success.
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It is the single greatest indicator of stability and success. In fact, to your point about the research, all of the social science research, from the leaning politically left, leaning politically right, all of it bears that out. And it reminds me of one of the studies that former Education Secretary Bill Bennett made. He was trying to get at with some great research. You know, what are those factors that go into a poor child's success? And ultimately, what it boiled down to, it wasn't even the school that they went to. It wasn't after school study to sort of improve someone's skills in something like math. It was the fact that when that child woke up, regardless of how rich or poor his or her family was, that they woke up in a family. And that remains true. And so what we're saying at Heritage is if in fact, we want to expand upon what we truly believe can be the golden age of America and be successful with all of our policies at home and abroad. At the heart of that success, moving forward, forward, has to be the restoration of the American family. And we're urging policymakers in Washington and in state capitals to participate in this restoration.
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I told a story, and perhaps I've told you this too before, but I told a story on the air recently about my late grandmother, just passed away a couple years ago, wonderful woman, deeply religious, great Catholic, and her name's Mildred. And she told me, I asked her, you. Years ago, just as a teenager, I was listening to talk radio, and I hear about how Social Security was out of money and it was completely run like an idiotic operation, which of course it is. And I said to her, I was like, do you ever worry that you're not gonna get your Social Security check? And she responded, why would I worry? I've got nine children. And I thought ever since then, I never stopped thinking about that. And I was reminded, and I'm just constantly reminded of it, that. That there was a time in our history where, insofar as we were dependent, we weren't dependent on the government almost at all. We were dependent on each other. Like, if you had some sort of emergency that required a babysitter, you had a family member who probably lived next door to you or maybe lived in your house, who could watch the kid or you, like you have a pet situation, you have a family member, somebody nearby. That was the country that I think people remember, but in many ways no longer exists because of the government dependence and the attack on family that you're talking about.
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No, it's true. In the same way that politics has replaced religion for so many leftist Americans, the government has replaced the institution of the family for so many Americans. And so our argument at Heritage is we ultimately have to focus on those factors that are upstream of politics and policy, culture, society, economics, but that downstream of them have been some government policies that actually have changed behavior. And so let us have the boldness, let us frankly have the hopefulness about the future, that through a couple of tax credits, that we can amplify some of the decisions that Americans want to make to restore that beautiful image that you mentioned. It doesn't ultimately mean that every woman needs to say, we're going to have nine children or any specific number of children as much as. As an institution, we want the American family to be revitalized.
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Yeah. Yeah. I guess if there's anything, and I Don't know if you feel this way, but if there's anything that might give you hope through all of this crisis our country is going through, oftentimes it's these moments of crisis where people are reminded of the eternal truths. Because, I don't know, the people I run into in my life, I do feel like, are more spiritual now than they've ever been. People are thinking more sincerely about what it's all about, what it means. And I do think that there are some people who are going back to church now. So maybe something good can come of all of this. Kevin?
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I think so. I mean, you and I both know because of our shared faith that where evil exists, where challenges exist, there's always at least a commensurate amount of good. The question for us as Americans is what are we going to do about the opportunity in addition to what we do about the challenges? And at Heritage, I'm so proud of my colleagues for seizing upon this moment, surely filled with a lot of challenges, long running patterns like we've talked about regarding the family, some short term problems in Minnesota, hopefully short term. But we have to have answers to take advantage of the opportunity which exists because the American people are hopeful about the future in spite of the present day.
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And we have to be brave and we have to pray. I mean, we have to pray for courage and light. The light to know the way, the courage to take it. Kevin Roberts, thank you always, sir, for your time and your great work at Heritage. Good to talk to you today.
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Thanks, my friend. Take care.
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There he is. Dr. Kevin Roberts. Nice to chat with him today. I mean, the family thing really does come. This is. I'm obsessed with this issue because I do feel like it is right there at the core of how we fix all of this. I mean, how often do you turn on the news and you see this chaos, like places like Minneapolis and you're like, oh, yeah, those people have healthy family lives. Oh, yeah, those people, the people were flipping cars and tying tow ropes to weapons safes in the backs of cop cars and stealing all of their documents and attacking police officers. Oh, yeah, I'm sure they've got a very healthy family life. That's probably what's going on. No, no, these are a lot of tortured people with some sort of trauma going on that they're just manifesting on the rest of us. We need to put an end to that. That needs to stop. So we need to crack down on the lawlessness. We need to invoke the Insurrection Act. We need to arrest the bad guys, we stop the weak leaders who are making this fester or fermenting it outright. We need to arrest people like Tim Walls and Jacob Frey. If they're running afoul of federal law, arrest them for it, impose consequences. But simultaneously, we need a restoration of the American family. We need a restoration of the most important institution, the most important governing unit of our entire culture is the family. Need a restoration of that. Stop grooming the children. Stop that. Let's start taking care of them and raising them right. Okay, let's see. I've got. Well, we've got a lot going on here. We have a lot going on here in this country. It is, you know, so that happens overnight. Did you see all this stuff out of Iran? I'll just mention in brief, I was kind of. I went to bed last night thinking, are we. Are we gonna be doing some more missile strikes in Iran? Are things gonna get crazy? Well, President Trump kind of indicated yesterday that he says the Iranian government has stopped, at least for now, killing protesters. Now, we've heard the reports are all over the place. And I don't, candidly, I don't even really know what to believe coming out of Iran right now. They shut down Internet access for the whole country. You know, sometimes getting casualty numbers or death numbers is like, you know, like, remember the Gaza Health Ministry was giving casualty numbers out of Gaza. And you're like, oh, the Gaza Health Ministry, what are you talking about? That's run by Hamas. We're supposed to trust the specific numbers. It's difficult work. But regardless, there's no question there's absolute chaos going on in Iran right now. Protesters are taken to the streets holding up signs calling on President Trump to intervene to fight back against the ruling regime. The government buildings set on fire. Lots of people, I think, think getting killed. That's the reporting on the subject. And even some executions that were planned for this week that for now, President Trump says have been forestalled that his administration is in negotiation with the Iranian regime. However that takes place. And for now, Iran is playing ball. For now. There was an effort to try and evacuate American military bases in the region last night, specifically in Qatar. And then once President Trump indicated that actually things are settling up with Iran, at least for the moment, then the evacuation order was reportedly reversed. So this thing is ebbing and flowing right now, but we're keeping an eye on it. But I did. I was laying down last night, I was like, man, I'm gonna wake up tomorrow. We're gonna have a full blown Iran show on our hands, depending on what happens there. But turns out it's a domestic show because we've got a crazy, crazy insurrection going on in Minneapolis. Now, yesterday morning, just like every morning. Not every morning, but a lot of mornings, including this morning, I got a call from my great White House correspondent, Reagan Reese. We always try and go over questions for the President of the United States, things to ask him. And yesterday I had, as I recalled, I had two big questions that jumped right to the top of my head yesterday morning. And I said, would you ask him about this new assistant Attorney General to investigate fraud? I wanna know whether or not we're going to get to the bottom of the fraud nationwide and how quickly that'll happen. Where is this guy? Because we're expecting a nomination. We haven't had it yet. And so Reagan did ask President Trump yesterday about this new Assistant ag. And the President tipped his hand a little bit. Take a look. Cut. One new assistant Attorney General position dedicated to rooting out fraud. Yeah, he's fantastic. The person is fantastic. It's a he. I will tell you, maybe within minutes. I mean, I don't know if it's appropriate to say yet, because we're going through a process, but we have chosen a person who's very tough, very smart, very fair. We've chosen a person who's very tough, very smart, very fair. We're going to be announcing him soon. He said, maybe in a couple of seconds. That didn't happen right away. There must be some sort of process the White House is undertaking, taking. But let's go. Let's get this person out there. We need to. We need to get after them. Maga for life. 923 goes. Vince, ask the Insurrection act question to Reagan. Hey, MAGA for life. I got you covered. Easy now. I already talked to Reagan this morning. Yes, we talked about the Insurrection Act. We'll see. You know, there's an art to these questions. Sometimes you gotta figure out a way to strategically ask which question. You know you're gonna get some. Some of it's like kind of reading the room. What mood is the President in? Basically, the top priority is how can you get valuable information out to the public. So we'll see. I'll leave it to Reagan in terms of which questions she's asking. But believe me, I brought up the Insurrection Act. It was like, first thing this morning, she called me, she's like, what do you think? And I was like, this Insurrection act thing, President Trump's all over it on Truth Social, and he's talked about it a lot. What is it gonna take for them to finally do it? What threshold are you waiting for, Mr. President? So we'll see. That's definitely on the menu today. So there's President Trump. They need to get this guy in there quickly. He says he's great. I hope that means he's cutthroat. I hope that means he's gonna come in and just start slicing throats like we're taking down fraudsters left and right. Please get this person in fast. And then there is. Then there's this issue. There was something. Oh, Politico had a report this week, Politico, which of course meant instantly. I wasn't sure if it was real or not, but I'm concerned about it. Politico reported that the Trump administration quietly. Quotation marks in the air. Quietly restored Planned Parenthood funding to the tune of millions that they had taken away from Planned parenthood and Title 10 of funding. Title 10. And they did that in December that HHS had done that. That doesn't sound good to me. Under no circumstances should your tax dollars or my tax dollars be going to killing babies. Shouldn't be happening. And certainly not be given to an organization that kills babies at scale, but en masse. No, of course not. Not a single baby dime to those demons. No. And so you get a story that says they've got some money back. Well, what's that about? Is that true? Who came to that decision? So, again, I was curious. Reagan asked. Reagan asked the President of the United States yesterday. And helpfully, the head of HHS, RFK Jr. Was standing right behind him. Listen to this. This interested me. I didn't realize. Both of them seemed completely caught off guard by the topic itself. Listen. Cut three. Watch. It's being reported that Health and Human Services released frozen funds to Planned Parenthood. I'm wondering why this happened and why Planned Parenthood is receiving any federal. I don't know anything about that. Bobby, do you know anything about.
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What was the question?
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It's being reported that frozen funds were released to Planned Parenthood in December by hhs. I'm wondering why that happened. I have not heard that. I have not heard that. Mr. President. I have not heard that. I have not heard that. Now, I don't think either of those men are, like, lying or anything. I think they were genuinely surprised by that item and didn't know what she was even referring to. But we got some more information yesterday afternoon about this. This comes to us from the Daily Signal reporter Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell And I'm keeping an eye on this because I don't want to see a single dime go to the baby killers. I don't know about you. Here's what the headline says. Why Trump's HHS did give Planned Parenthood tens of millions in funding back and there's an explanation for this. The explanation that Daily Signal gives us is that apparently it was a tactical retreat designed to make it so that the administration can cut even more funding from Planned Parenthood. It's a legal battle. In other words, here's what they got. Politico reported that the ACLU on Monday dropped its lawsuit against the Trump administration after HHS quietly released tens of millions of Dollars in title 10 Family planning funds to Planned Parenthood and other clinics. The move sparked widespread outrage from pro life conservatives, rightfully so. The aclu, joined by the National Family Planning and Reproductive Health association, had sued the administration over what they called unlawful withholding of more than $65 million in Title 10 grants. But the agency may have had no choice but to restore funding. According to Tom McCluskey, who's a veteran pro life operative and the director of the government affairs operation at Catholic Vote, the agency withheld the funds before amending 42 U.S. code Part 300, a rule which governs family planning grants. McCluskey told the Daily Signal, quote, the Trump administration was virtually certain to lose the lawsuit, forcing them to to repay the full amount plus interest and then cover attorney's fees. Even worse, continuing the litigation would have entangled any future funding cuts, which are highly likely under the new regulations. In prolonged court battles before an unsympathetic judge, a former senior Trump official told the Daily Signal, the administration will now be in a better position to defund Planned Parenthood. Quote, hhs was caught in a tough spot because the judge was almost certainly going to rule and against them, and they would have had to restore the funding under Biden ERA rules, possibly with interest and attorney's fees on top of that. With the case dismissed, the administration has far greater ability to cut Planned Parenthood funds under Trump ERA rules. And that will be the true test of the president's promise to end taxpayer funding of the abortion industry. All right, this is one of those things. It's like, okay, okay, I'll take it as an explanation. They say this is a big, this is a tactical retreat by the Trump administration. It came down to the lawyers in the Trump administration, HHS doj, making a decision, saying, okay, we just have to back off for now. They get access to that funding for a moment. But we are using this as a predicate to cut even more. Planned Parenthood, by the way, should not receive a dime. Planned Parenthood should not receive a dime from any kind of operation in our federal government. Every single dollar needs to be cut. So. And by the way, they don't just abort babies, they also inject children and humans full of all sorts of cross sex hormones. They're, I think, are the number one provider of cross sex hormones in the country. Yeah, Planned Parenthood. Yeah. So they need to not exist is what needs to happen, and certainly not with any of our tax dollars. So we will stay vigilant to this story. We'll keep an eye on it. I see that this will be the, quote, true test of the president's promise to end taxpayer funding of the abortion industry. Good. We'll keep tracking it. By the way, President Trump has had more success as a pro life president than any president of our lifetimes. That's just true. He got Roe v. Wade overturned. I will be eternally grateful to him for that amazing progress. But the fight, as always, continues and all of us are staying in it. All of us are. Great to have you with us as always, the best audience anywhere. I've got the big national radio show today, thevinceshow.com to get your local listings and then I'm back with you tomorrow. We've got both big shows and for those of you who haven't done it yet, go to rumble.comvince. go to rumble.comvince. subscribe to the Bongino Report channel. That's where rumble.comvince takes you. Because on February 2nd, that's the only place you're gonna be able to find me on Rumble for Rumble. 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