The Dems' Sinister Plot Revealed (Ep. 2497)

Summary

The Dan Bongino Show — Episode 2497: "The Dems' Sinister Plot Revealed"

Date: April 17, 2026
Host: Dan Bongino (Cumulus Podcast Network)
Main Theme: A mix of current event analysis, debunking anti-Trump rhetoric, defending conservative principles, and exposing what Bongino describes as a long-term Democratic strategy to secure power through demographic and institutional manipulation.

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Episode Overview

Dan Bongino, joined by his co-host Paul and producer Justin, launches into a multi-faceted show that blends sharp political analysis, motivational commentary, and personal anecdotes. The main arc of the episode moves from celebrating Trump’s perceived strategic victories (“Lucky Trump”) to a detailed, impassioned warning about the Democrats' alleged plot to reshape America through open borders and redistricting, with strong calls against cynicism and promoting civic engagement.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Lucky Trump" and Recent Geopolitical Events

Timestamps: 00:02 – 09:23, 40:46–51:33

• Oil & Iran: The show opens with the latest news that the Strait of Hormuz has been reopened and oil prices are plummeting, which Bongino and his team attribute to Trump’s tough negotiation style.

  • Bongino: “Double-barrel, middle finger to you. I’m shutting down the strait. You think you’re shutting down? And the Iranians were like, damn, what do we do now?” (01:52)
  • Result: Crude oil is down 11% ($10 drop), contradicting media predictions of disaster (03:37).

• Critique of the 'He’s Just Lucky' Narrative: Dan repeatedly mocks media/“doomer” critics who claim Trump stumbles into success by chance, arguing these are results of skill and backbone, not happenstance.

  • “It’s amazing. It’s always just luck. It’s incredible… I will go with the lucky guy who wins.” (06:43)

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2. On Accusations, Due Process, and the “Numbers Fallacy”

Timestamps: 09:23 – 21:12

• Swalwell & Social Media Outrage: Discussion on not jumping to conclusions over scandals (e.g., Eric Swalwell), defending presumption of innocence.

  • Quote: “Do not believe all women, believe good evidence. Do not believe all men, believe good evidence.” (10:34)

• Trump Accusations Analogy: Comparing the volume of accusations against Trump to Secret Service experiences with nutty presidential threats—popularity naturally leads to more accusations; numbers ≠ truth.

  • “More accusations are made against famous people because more people know them. It’s a math problem.” (11:23)
  • Notable Quote: “Folks, we do not believe people. We believe evidence.” (15:40)

• Impact on Society: Claims that false/unchecked accusations erode trust, fueling cynicism and disengagement (“checking out phenomenon”).

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3. Civic Engagement and Refusing to “Check Out”

Timestamps: 21:12 – 37:32

• Clarence Thomas Tribute: Bongino presents Justice Clarence Thomas as a model of civic responsibility and humility.

  • Thomas’ Quote: “If you think it’s losing confidence, then you get up and you participate. You don’t sit on the sidelines.” (23:36)

• Bongino's Story: Personal anecdote about Thomas’ kindness to Secret Service agents.

• Condemnation of Political Apathy: Strong language urging listeners not to give up on the country despite setbacks or criticism.

  • “You’re a disgrace to your forefathers… trench warfare, mustard gas… and you’re giving up because of what—you don’t like a mean tweet?” (36:17)

• Inspiration: Highlights Marine Mike Egan (a double amputee) outperforming able-bodied people in an endurance race as a metaphor for resilience (37:32–39:11).

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4. Polling Realities and the “Trump is Lucky/Puppet/Crazy” Progression

Timestamps: 40:46 – 60:14

• Polling Trends: Contradicts narratives of Trump losing support:

  • CNN poll shows Trump holding strong among seniors (45:01–45:51).
  • Quinnipiac shows 88% approval among Republicans (46:47).

• Mocking 'Lucky/Puppet/Crazy' Progression: Describes how anti-Trump pundits cycle through excuses for his success, always avoiding admission of his skill.

  • “If you don’t catch the infection early at the Trump is lucky stage, it evolves to the puppet stage, which then evolves to he’s crazy.” (59:42)
  • Plays clip of Jamie Raskin flipping positions depending on who’s president (Trump vs. Biden, 58:38).

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5. The “Democratic Sinister Plot” — Demographics, Redistricting, and Electoral Manipulation

Timestamps: 62:37 – 68:33

• Open Borders & Census: Asserts Democrats’ advocacy for open borders is a strategy to boost population counts in blue states, thereby preserving congressional seats and electoral votes.

  • “Democrats want open borders because they need people to flood back in the country so they can manipulate the census…” (62:37)

• Redistricting Risks for Democrats: Warns that mass out-migration from blue states, if not offset by counting illegal immigrants, will cost Democrats seats and Electoral College power in 2030 and beyond.

  • “If they don’t count illegal aliens in this, which I hope happens…. Democrats will not be able to win the House… or the presidency.” (64:54–65:18)

• Court Battles: New Supreme Court case might end racial gerrymandering, shifting more seats to Republicans.

• Democrats Say the Quiet Part: Plays old clip of Rep. Yvette Clarke openly wanting migrants to “keep her seat” via redistricting (67:39).

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6. Further Threats: Technology, AI, and Education

Timestamps: 68:44 – 77:11

• 21st-Century Threats: Cites dangers from drones, cyber-attacks, hypersonic missiles, space, and especially AI, criticizing unserious leadership.

  • Features Roman Yampolsky on AI risk:
    • “It’s not because it hates you…. It just doesn’t have any built-in concern about your safety or your well being.” (72:28)

• Education and Historical Narratives: Sharply criticizes left-wing dominance of education and historical revisionism:

  • “Great Depression was exacerbated by government intervention… It’s called the Great Depression because the government tried to fix it.” (75:40)

  • Thomas Sowell Clip: Government action, not market failure, deepened the Depression. (75:57–76:48)

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7. Personal Reflections & Motivational Closing

Timestamps: 77:20 – episode end

• Family First & Mortality Perspective: Personal note on cherishing family and health, referencing his past health scare.

  • “As long as your body is healthy, you have thousands of problems… But the moment your body gets sick, you have one problem.” (Monk, 83:34–83:57)

• Faith and Providence: Recommends “Why the Universe Is the Way It Is” by Hugh Ross for a sense of divine purpose—rejects the idea of luck, calls it intelligent design (79:20–81:44).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Trump’s Iran Strategy:
  “Double-barrel, middle finger to you. I’m shutting down the strait. You think you’re shutting down? And the Iranians were like, damn, what do we do now?” –Dan Bongino (01:52)
• Evidence over Accusations:
  “Do not believe all women, believe good evidence. Do not believe all men, believe good evidence.” –Dan Bongino (10:34)
• Clarence Thomas on Civic Duty:
  “If you think it’s losing confidence, then you get up and you participate. You don’t sit on the sidelines.” –Clarence Thomas (23:36)
• On Political Apathy:
  “You’re a disgrace to your forefathers… and you’re giving up because… you don’t like a mean tweet?” –Dan Bongino (36:17)
• On Demographic Strategy:
  “I need more people in my district just for redistricting purposes.” –Rep. Yvette Clarke (67:39)
• On AI Threat:
  “It’s not because it hates you… It just doesn’t have any built-in concern about your safety, your well being.” –Roman Yampolsky (72:28)
• Perspective on Life:
  “As long as your body is healthy, you have thousands of problems… But when your body gets sick, you have one problem.” –Buddhist Monk (83:34–83:57)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:02–06:43: Opening banter, Iran/oil news, "Lucky Trump" motif
• 09:23–21:12: Accusations, due process, numbers fallacy
• 23:36: Clarence Thomas on participation in civic life
• 37:32–39:11: Mike Egan, the inspirational double amputee Marine
• 45:01–46:47: Polling — Trump’s strong numbers among seniors, GOP, market
• 62:37–68:33: “Sinister Plot” – Demographic destiny, redistricting, open borders, census
• 72:28: AI dangers — Roman Yampolsky’s warning
• 75:57–76:48: Thomas Sowell on Great Depression and government
• 83:34–83:57: Monk on value of health (“one problem”)
• 81:44–82:48: On divine design, faith, and gratitude

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Structure & Flow

• The episode maintains Bongino’s trademark blend of sarcasm, righteous anger, and motivational intensity.
• Heavy use of analogies (sports, historical wars, parent/child) to motivate listeners and draw fine distinctions between media narratives and what Bongino sees as reality.

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Conclusion

Dan Bongino rallies his audience to reject defeatism, scrutinize media narratives, and stay engaged in the political process. He presents the “Democrats’ sinister plot” as a grave threat to Republican electoral prospects, emphasizing the need for vigilance, truth, and perseverance. The episode weaves together headline news, polling, historical context, and philosophical reflection, ultimately urging listeners to “never check out”—in politics or in life.

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Summary prepared for listeners seeking the key arguments, insights, and action points from The Dan Bongino Show, Episode 2497, without advertisements or extraneous banter.

Transcript

[Dan Bongino]

All America, all the time. Sit down, buckle up and get ready for the Dan Bongino show. Folks, I, I listen, it's. You guys are already laughing. It's a. Is it? Do you have Lucky Trump? Justin, just throw up.

[Justin]

Lucky Trump.

[Paul]

This is the luckiest guy. I'm telling you.

[Dan Bongino]

I've never seen

[Justin]

Lucky Trump.

[Dan Bongino]

There he is. Got a point in the opposite direction

[Justin]

on the camera did that first time.

[Paul]

Amazing.

[Dan Bongino]

Lucky Trump.

[Paul]

Did you see? Just before the show went live.

[Dan Bongino]

Now I got to go the other way.

[Paul]

Just before the show starts, the Iranians who. What did we say yesterday, fellas?

[Dan Bongino]

Ladies in the audience, Donald Trump, who never has a plan, right on top.

[Paul]

Now he's taken over my show.

[Dan Bongino]

Lucky Trump. It's the Lucky Trump show, not the Dan Bongino show.

[Paul]

So just to be clear, yesterday, because

[Dan Bongino]

unlike the doomers, the black pillars, the dipshittery class, the media, the DC Swamp,

[Paul]

and the other imbeciles who are consistently

[Dan Bongino]

outfoxed by President Trump, he had no plan.

[Paul]

He had no plan for Iran. For the straight. Remember just three weeks ago, he had no plan.

[Dan Bongino]

And I put out a tweet, oh, there's a plan. I'm sure of it. And people were like, yo, what are you talking about?

[Paul]

Amazing. The Iranians are like, the Iranians now. Who, who just, what, seven days ago said, we are shutting down the street and the media.

[Dan Bongino]

Jasmine, Right?

[Paul]

The media was like, yes, the Iranians won. Yes, our death to America. Mueller buddies. What? The media was so excited. And Trump said, you want to shut down the street. Double barrel, middle finger to you. I'm shutting down the street. You think you're shutting down? And the Iranians were like, damn, what do we do now? Because as I said on yesterday's show,

[Dan Bongino]

you're constantly ahead of the news cycle here.

[Paul]

The Iranian oil tanks can only fill up to a certain amount where you have to start to drain them or the entire delivery system to the tanks starts to get damaged.

[Dan Bongino]

Kind of like what happens with our spro as well. Strategic Petroleum Oil Reserve. It happens on our end, too.

[Paul]

You have to refill and drain these things and keep the pipelines moving. The Iranians can only have done this

[Dan Bongino]

for about two weeks.

[Paul]

We're a week in and now this morning.

[Dan Bongino]

And I'm going to get this a little more later. I was going to start the show with something different, but I just, I

[Paul]

have to laugh at you idiots in

[Dan Bongino]

the black pill, doomer, media swamp class.

[Paul]

You're constantly effed by Donald Trump because you're so freaking stupid. Stop Being stupid. He doesn't do everything right. I don't do anything right. Nobody does. But you saying two weeks ago and

[Dan Bongino]

three weeks ago, he has no plan and any implements a plan.

[Paul]

The Iranians fold, he wins and you're going to be like the oil is now plummeting dramatically.

[Dan Bongino]

Crude is down right now 10 and a half. It's down 11%. $10.

[Paul]

How many times are you going to get your balls kicked into your throat? You don't listen guys. Ladies. You are not obligated in a representative democracy. There is no stipulation in the constitution with mandates. You, you like Donald Trump. You don't have to do that. You don't have to vote for him either. This is not a dictatorship. But you do have to stop being stupid once in a while if you want to start. Stop looking like a moron with scrambled eggs all over your face every day. It's amazing how many of you continue to humiliate yourselves. I get it with the left wing media, but the doomers and the groomers.

[Dan Bongino]

Trump is an Israeli puppet.

[Paul]

Really? He's an Israeli puppet. Strange, because he cuts this ceasefire with Lebanon. Whether you think it's a good or bad idea is irrelevant. And it turns out the Israelis aren't really that happy with it. Here's the way he dip shittery class. Here's the way puppets work. You ever seen a puppet?

[Dan Bongino]

So you're claiming like the evil Israelis, they're holding the puppet strings.

[Paul]

You know the puppet strings. A little crime.

[Dan Bongino]

You manipulate the puppets.

[Paul]

The puppet master. And Trump's at the bottom doing his puppet thing, right? That's what you. It's kind of weird. It's like the puppet at the bottom is doing its own thing, sending a signal back up to the street to the purpose supposed to be the puppet master. It's like the actual puppet was the master. So weird how you keep getting wrecked. You are idiots. I have no respect for you at all. You've never done anything. You've never gotten off the sidelines. All you do is with your crank in your hand sign sit in the front row with a boxing ring. You don't even sit in the front row because you're too freaking stupid to

[Dan Bongino]

get seats in the front row.

[Paul]

You sit in the cheap seats and you boo and throw popcorn and you never do a freaking thing. You never shut up. You just got wrecked again.

[Dan Bongino]

This wasn't even the beginning of the show. But in case you missed it. Do you have that Wall Street Journal

[Justin]

article, Justin, about the strait?

[Dan Bongino]

I just want to show you what we're talking about.

[Justin]

I'm just so fired up about this because it just happened a little bit ago.

[Paul]

I told you, the Iranians have to

[Dan Bongino]

sell the Royal in two weeks or the system's going to collapse. It's been seven days. The media people who celebrated the Iranians

[Paul]

beat us, they shut down the strait.

[Dan Bongino]

Donald Trump says, I'm shutting it down. Now the Iranians are saying, quote, the

[Paul]

Strait of Hormuz is open. Oh, shit. It's like we said yesterday, the Iranians really need to sell the Royal. Wall Street Journal.

[Dan Bongino]

Oil prices fall after Iran says straits

[Justin]

of Hormuz are open. My gosh.

[Dan Bongino]

Are you people serious? Can you be or look any dumber every single day as this guy just backhands you? All right, I got a lot. I got a lot more of Lucky Trump coming up.

[Paul]

These guys just lucky.

[Dan Bongino]

It's amazing. It's always just luck. It's incredible how I just put this out on Twitter, by the way, if you want to check it out, I will go with the lucky guy who wins. If it's not luck. But even if you believe that, then the unlucky DC Swamp losers that consistently lose every day. Why wouldn't you? And it's not even luck. All right, today's show brought to you by one of my favorite products, especially on the weekend. This is actually one of my bottles of Dose. I absolutely love Dose, especially if you're out on the weekend and you're having a couple of drinks, glass of wine or so. Dose the next day has some of

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[Dan Bongino]

Now I'm going to get back to that, but I have to start the show with something else because it is really critical and important given everything that's

[Justin]

going on with that scumbag Eric Swalwell,

[Dan Bongino]

who is just a horrible person. Outside of every person's innocent or proven guilty. I do not get into pylons when it comes to criminal allegations like let the process play out. You know, I have not been on this case from that perspective. However, I need to show you a video clip. And if this doesn't hammer home a point I've been making to you forever, nothing will. And I'm sorry, but we can't be friends, folks. This is why I do not get into pylons when it comes to things like the MeToo movement or elsewhere or it doesn't even have to involve sexual harassment, any kind of allegation of criminal activity. You, as a United States citizen, are innocent or proven guilty. I have no problem discussing it. But I'm not going to pile on and assume anything because people are entitled to due process, whether it's Andrew Cuomo, whether it's Eric Swalwell or your favorite politician.

[Paul]

You know why I don't get into this stuff?

[Dan Bongino]

Because this is what happened to Donald Trump. I want you to watch this clip.

[Paul]

Here is a golden rule to live

[Dan Bongino]

by and you will never be on the wrong side of this issue when it comes to allegations about this guy did this or this woman did this or Brett Kavanaugh did this or Donald Trump did that. Do not believe all women believe good evidence. Do not believe all men believe good evidence. I'm going to show you this clip. This is a podcast. This is Brad Palumbo, and he has on a friend of mine, C.J. pierson, and he asked C.J. pearson a question about all of these accusations against Donald Trump.

[Paul]

I'm going to tell you a quick story afterwards because this is the whole thing, like accusations are accusations. And yes, people who are famous and

[Dan Bongino]

who have name recognition are treated differently in this space. Not legally, but in the accusation space,

[Paul]

because more accusations are made against famous people because more people know them. It is a math problem. I'll explain to you what I mean in a second.

[Dan Bongino]

But watch this clip first and you'll see exactly how this faulty logic plays out.

[Justin]

Check this out.

[Paul]

There are 27 women that have accused

[C.J. Pearson]

President Trump of various forms of sexual misconduct. CJ do you think all 27 of them are lying? You know, I don't know those women

[Dan Bongino]

and I don't know all their stories

[C.J. Pearson]

and all their allegations. But the end of the day, what I do know is who President Trump is. And President Trump, I think is a man of character. And I think the American people see him as that, which is why they sent him back to the White House. But what I do find interesting is the timing of these allegations. You know, this was someone that, you know, lived in the limelight, was a very successful person before he even ran for president. But it wasn't until he ran against the establishment, ran on holding them to account, draining the swamp that all these people came on the one works to accuse him of these things. The same thing happened to Brett Kavanaugh.

[Paul]

So, yes, then you think 27 are lying.

[C.J. Pearson]

The man of character is the one who cheated on both of all of his ex wives. Again, I don't know these women. And honestly, it's something you probably shouldn't be weighing on destiny. But when it comes to the fact the President of the United States. Do you want to say the moral equivalent? I'm glad that you can hold other people to different scenes than you hold yourself, folks.

[Dan Bongino]

This clip I saw yesterday drove me bananas. And Good job by C.J.

[Justin]

pearson.

[Dan Bongino]

I don't know Brad Palumbo.

[Justin]

I know who he is, but I

[Dan Bongino]

think he, he's, he's a libertarian.

[Paul]

So you're confused as to why a

[Dan Bongino]

man who's been in the public space like Donald Trump for what, guys, 50, 60 years? Who, I don't know.

[Justin]

I Haven't done the quick math.

[Dan Bongino]

You're confused why a guy like that would have a number of people making accusations against him. Let me help you out. When I was doing my time as a protective intelligence agent in the Secret Service, those are the ones that analyze threats. Okay? The PI Squad. Back in the day, people who threaten the president get referred to the PI Squad. I was in one of the busier ones in the New York field office. Why are there a lot of threats that come out of the New York field office? Justin, Any guesses?

[Paul]

Because there's a lot of people in New York. We would get probably one or two

[Dan Bongino]

a day from a crazy person who would call in and say, I am

[Paul]

going to do something to George W.

[Dan Bongino]

Bush or Barack Obama because they're sending CIA rays into my head.

[Paul]

I am not joking.

[Dan Bongino]

This is not meant to be funny. I am being as serious as a freaking stroke.

[Justin]

Okay?

[Paul]

We would get maybe one of these a day.

[Dan Bongino]

Say it's one a week.

[Paul]

That's being.

[Dan Bongino]

It's not. It was more than that.

[Paul]

Say it was just one a week. That's 52 a year. So Palumbo is curious as to how a guy like that could get 27. 27. I wouldn't be surprised if it was more. People do then say this stuff all the time about famous people. There were all kinds of incentives. I'm not telling you.

[Dan Bongino]

Everyone's lying about everything all the time.

[Paul]

I'm just telling you, like, why should he be treated different? Because people know who he is. His name is out there in the public space and he has money. This happens with famous people all the time. Do you have any idea. You missed the whole me too thing where there were legitimate cases that were quite disgusting and then it spiraled into like the Salem witch trials. You're confusing numbers with evidence. Folks. I'm telling you in my.

[Dan Bongino]

I don't know how long I was there.

[Paul]

A year or so in the PI squad. I. I must have reviewed probably 25, 30 cases myself. There were like 10 agents in the squad of people swearing that George W. Bush or Obama sent some kind of death ray into their head and they

[Dan Bongino]

needed a shield for it or they were going to do something.

[Paul]

Does that make it real? Why didn't they say Brad Palumbo did it? Because nobody knew Brad Palumbo. But they knew Trump. They knew Obama. They knew Bush. Folks, we do not believe people. We believe evidence. People present if the evidence is valid and accurate.

[Pollster (possibly Harry Anton)]

Man.

[Paul]

Do you want to devolve into a society of lunatics where with Social media. Anybody can accuse anyone of anything. Joey Bag of donuts stole my puppy. Your puppy's right there in the house. Doesn't matter. I said it. Believe all men and believe all women. This is the numbers fallacy, that just because a number of people with various motives say something, it's automatically assumed to be true. It inverts the entire justice process. That's why I don't get into this stuff. Whether it's Andrew Cuomo, Swalwell or others. Let him fight it out in court.

[Dan Bongino]

Yeah, he should resign.

[Paul]

The guy should have resigned over Russia Gate. He appears to be a scumbag.

[Dan Bongino]

The video evidence is pretty strong that he was a scumbag.

[Paul]

Was he a criminal, though? He's entitled to a day in court like anyone else. I'm really sorry some of you didn't like that.

[Dan Bongino]

You're defending.

[Paul]

I'm not defending anything. I'm defending the process and justice. I'm not defending a person.

[Dan Bongino]

Folks, this stuff, you want to descend into anarchy. And like Viggo Mortensen, the road, total chaos. Let's start doing trial by Twitter,

[Paul]

because this is what winds up happening, folks. Dealing with having been on the President's

[Dan Bongino]

detail and in a PI squad for about seven of the 12 years I was in the Secret Service, There are more mentally ill people out there than I think you understand. Now, not all mental illness is directly correlated with violence, but some of it is. That's undeniable. And there are a lot of them out there. I don't care what anyone tells you.

[Paul]

I've seen it.

[Dan Bongino]

I've had to go out and run this stuff out and investigate it. When you start pumping out there, this

[Paul]

guilty until proven innocent bs, crazy people ingest it and do crazy things.

[Dan Bongino]

That is the murder of the health care executive up in New York.

[Paul]

You see, liberals. Well, I didn't like what he was doing with healthcare. He doesn't deserve to be shot in the freaking head, you crazy sickos. Well, why are you bringing it up now? Because I just saw this tweet yesterday

[Justin]

put up this tweet by that Rubenstein guy.

[Paul]

Some other lunatic now showed up at the OpenAI guy, Sam Altman's house with a Molotov cocktail.

[Dan Bongino]

Rue Adam Rubenstein notes on Twitter. I spoke to the man accused of trying to kill Sam Altman. One of the reporters DM'd him, asking him to elaborate. He says he was interested in Luigi ing some tech CEOs. Like the accused killer of the health care executive up in New York, Luigi Mangione. There's the article right there, folks, I'm telling you, I'm not going to get into that. I'm not. I know. It's like there's a group of people out there that love the conspiracy bullshit and, you know, everybody's guilty until proven innocent. I'm not doing that. And you shouldn't either. You want a republic, then you damn well better try to maintain it. And having a Republican means even defending the worst of us sometimes against false accusations, because they're going to turn around and come for you. It is only a matter of time before everyone goes down if that's the standard. People accuse people, famous people, of things all the time. When you see it and you live it, you do not get confused by the numbers fallacy.

[Justin]

And I'm sorry, I don't have any beef with Brad Palumbo.

[Dan Bongino]

He's entitled to his opinion and his show. But I think C.J. pearson did an excellent job, excellent job debunking that. Just because 20 or 30 or 50 people say something, a million people have said, donald Trump is Hitler with no evidence that's true either. Does that make that true? Do you believe evidence or not? Folks, the problem with false accusations, outside of the obvious, is they promote a system of distrust in institutions, a distrust exacerbated by the Obama Biden regime, where

[Paul]

nobody trusts anything anymore.

[Dan Bongino]

I know. I lived it.

[Paul]

It doesn't matter what we say or

[Dan Bongino]

we did in these cases, whether it was Charlie Kirk or the pipe bomb, it doesn't matter.

[Paul]

There are people out there, you can slam them in the face with hardcore evidence and it doesn't matter. They're not interested in truth. They're not interested in process, they're not interested in justice. They're interested in cliques and they've fallen

[Dan Bongino]

for the Kool Aid process.

[Paul]

They are now guzzling.

[Dan Bongino]

They're not even guzzling. They've got an IV mainline of the Kool Aid.

[Paul]

There is almost nothing you can do to get them out of it. The best you can do is never

[Dan Bongino]

fall into it in the first place. False accusations promote distrust. And what does distrust promote? What I'm going to call now the checking out phenomenon, where people are like, I'm done. I'm done with the whole process. I'm not voting. I'm not getting involved. Everybody sucks all the time.

[Paul]

You don't have a choice. You live on this rock. Well, you do have a choice.

[Dan Bongino]

Checking out is a choice.

[Paul]

But you live on this rock called Earth, where there's always going to be

[Dan Bongino]

some system of government or you're going to have anarchy.

[Paul]

There is no other option. It's anarchy or at least some system

[Dan Bongino]

of government that respects civil liberties.

[Paul]

There has to be some coordination in

[Dan Bongino]

a country of 330 million people. So you're going to have.

[Paul]

What do you want to live in?

[Dan Bongino]

Teepees and a freaking tent?

[Paul]

No roads, no nothing.

[Dan Bongino]

No mail, no Internet?

[Konstantin Kisin]

No.

[Paul]

You really want to go back to. I don't.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not interested.

[Paul]

So if we're going to have this

[Dan Bongino]

massive landmass we call the United States,

[Paul]

where hundreds of millions of people are going to live here, there's going to have to be some central mechanism by which we coordinate.

[Dan Bongino]

I prefer that to be a light footprint, as small a government as possible.

[Paul]

However, we need something. I noticed the people preaching anarchy don't

[Dan Bongino]

actually live in anarchy. They're more than happy to use their iPhones they got. Because there's an established system of capitalism in this country protected by contract law.

[Paul]

When you totally, completely mistrust institutions, even when we win elections, you get this checking out effect where people just don't want to be involved at all. And I can only remind you of the famous cliche, you may not do politics, but politics does you. I have kids. I'm going to try to make this

[Dan Bongino]

beautiful republic we have better. Yes, it is an imperfect union. It's never going to be a perfect union. However, it's the best damn union that's

[Paul]

ever been tried before.

[Dan Bongino]

And I'm not checking out on squat. We got midterms coming up and I got kids to fight for mine and yours. And I'm not giving up on anything. Which leads me to the goat right here.

[Justin]

And I don't mean bah, goat. I mean like greatest of all time.

[Dan Bongino]

I know you've seen a lot of this Clarence Thomas footage that emerged after

[Justin]

he gave one of the most spectacular. It's actually on Fox right now.

[Dan Bongino]

He gave one of the most spectacular

[Justin]

speeches I've heard in like forever.

[Dan Bongino]

But there's a piece I have still not seen out there from the speech he gave the other day and is about exactly this.

[Paul]

There is no checking out, folks. There is either fighting for a better

[Dan Bongino]

government or giving up and getting your balls kicked in. That is it. I don't want my nuts kicked in. You know why?

[Paul]

It freaking hurts. I like them just where they are.

[Dan Bongino]

I want.

[Justin]

Sorry.

[Paul]

There.

[Dan Bongino]

It's on Fox right now again, proving to you like the show's live. Some people it's not show. Like, yes, it's live.

[Justin]

I promise.

[Dan Bongino]

I can't show you my watch. You can manipulate a watch, but that's

[Justin]

an actual clock right there that's running on satellite time.

[Dan Bongino]

So here is Clarence Thomas talking about exactly this. The dangers of, quote, checking out.

[Justin]

Check this out.

[Clarence Thomas]

I think if we don't stand up and take ownership of our country and, and take responsible for it, we are slowly letting others control how we think and what we think. I think the beauty of going to school is that you learn how to think for yourselves. You develop the discipline to think things through. If you think it's losing confidence, then you get up and you participate. You don't sit on the sidelines. You think that the, that the state is being run inconsistent with how you feel, then you get up and you participate. You prepare yourself. If you think that the medical profession is not right, when you become a doctor, a medical person, and you deal with that, I think we need to take ownership of our country. It's our country.

[Justin]

I love this man.

[Dan Bongino]

Really, guys. I mean, that's. I get all choked up.

[Justin]

I love this man. I.

[Dan Bongino]

There is nobody in government I respect more.

[Justin]

No one, nobody. I absolutely adore Clarence Thomas, the absolute goat.

[Dan Bongino]

Capital G, O, A, T, greatest of all time.

[Paul]

There's no checking out. It's ours. Like, we own this place. It's like a gym we bought with our friends. You don't just say, like, I'm going to let it run itself. Yeah, but we got a guy in the corner complaining about the bench press machine. So put some WD40 on and fix it, brother. Let me tell you what a good

[Justin]

guy Clarence Thomas is.

[Dan Bongino]

For those of you who haven't heard this story, I'm working a Secret Service detail.

[Justin]

Years ago, Michael Chertoff's front lawn, he was the DHS secretary.

[Dan Bongino]

We all had to go to what

[Justin]

they call DPD at the time, before the president's detail, dignitary protective detail. So I got shipped over to Michael Chertoff's house.

[Dan Bongino]

Justin, you ever hear this story? I'm sitting there, it's late at night. Clarence Thomas had come over to dinner

[Justin]

with his lovely wife Ginny, who's a friend, who I adore.

[Dan Bongino]

It's pitch black. I'm not going to tell you where they live, but it was pitch black. I mean, the moon was. It was not like a bright lit moon, like a full moon. You couldn't see anything. So when Clarence Thomas is leaving the dinner, I'm about 25ft away. I flash a flashlight. So nobody trips in the driveway getting to their car. So I'm really just Focused on looking around because I'm there to do security, not be like, the valet. So I'm looking around, but I'm not really paying attention to anything other than, you know, if there was any, like, gunmen in the woods or anything, Right? So I hear someone says something, and I don't really think anything of it because I'm focused on the flashlight. Then I hear it again and it's. He says it louder and I hear, have a good evening. And it was Clarence Thomas.

[Paul]

And I realized, like, he had said

[Dan Bongino]

to me some, you know, average Secret Service agent protecting.

[Paul]

I was. No, he had said, have a good evening.

[Dan Bongino]

And I didn't respond.

[Paul]

He wanted to make sure, like, he

[Dan Bongino]

knew I recognized that he was concerned

[Justin]

about how he was.

[Paul]

Like, it was just. And he looked. It was just like. I don't know, it was a small thing, but nobody, no one ever said anything to us.

[Dan Bongino]

Like, we were just like the help, you know, that's how people viewed us.

[Paul]

No one ever said anything. And he wanted to make sure, like,

[Dan Bongino]

he knew I knew he cared, you

[Justin]

know, I don't know.

[Dan Bongino]

Just a small thing. But it still to this day, I remember it because he's. That's just the kind of guy he is,

[Paul]

the goat. There's no checking out. There is no checking out. This is your country. It's yours. You watching right now. You hear me or you see me?

[Dan Bongino]

I'm pointing at you in live time.

[Paul]

This is yours. There is no tapping out. I'm going to show you what happens.

[Dan Bongino]

I found this clip yesterday. It's along the same lines, but, you know, I hate racial identity politics. I can't stand it. Nothing offends me more than the idea that you are without agency in your life and some systemic discrimination. Puppet is controlling everything you do.

[Paul]

No, they're not controlling what you do. You live in the freest country on earth.

[Justin]

You.

[Paul]

You can do something else. You just choose not to. And when you choose not to and

[Dan Bongino]

fail, a lot of people want to blame the system. The man, Donald Trump did it. I hate that. And I found this clip of this black preacher talking about how in the black community, voting unanimously for one party is just a tactical nightmare.

[Paul]

You're just. There is no reason, even if you hate, if you are a black voter

[Dan Bongino]

watching the show, black man or woman, I don't care if you vote or not.

[Paul]

It's up to you. I have said to you over and over, please, in the name of all

[Dan Bongino]

that's holy, I am begging you as

[Paul]

a conservative Republican, to please consider us

[Dan Bongino]

as a party, if I don't understand

[Paul]

how you could be, you know, for people who claim to be, are you

[Dan Bongino]

conservatives or all racist?

[Paul]

If we're racist, why would we be practically begging people to consider us as an option?

[Dan Bongino]

We hate you so much.

[Paul]

We don't want you around.

[Dan Bongino]

We're begging you to be in our.

[Paul]

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[Dan Bongino]

Donald Trump's a racist. He gets a lot of black votes.

[Paul]

Well, he's a really bad freaking racist.

[Dan Bongino]

This is a great clip.

[Justin]

I'm going to take a quick break and I want to show you what I mean. I'm asking minority voters who are interested

[Dan Bongino]

in freedom and liberty to get away from this like puppet master systemic discrimination bullshit. There is a party out there that

[Justin]

is there for you.

[Dan Bongino]

That is the conservative movement.

[Justin]

That is the MAGA movement.

[Dan Bongino]

Clarence Thomas has been preaching this stuff way before I was even alive. Little energetic this morning as you can see.

[Paul]

You know why? Brutal awakening. You get it? B R E W brutal.

[Dan Bongino]

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[Justin]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Paul]

If you're sitting around laughing about coffee, brutal awakening is not for you.

[Dan Bongino]

Stop. This is not funny this coffee. It's not Jasmine.

[Paul]

This is not for funny people. This is for coffee drinkers.

[Dan Bongino]

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[Justin]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Justin]

Check how brutal awakening is pretty awesome. Blackoutcoffee.com Bongino as you can tell, I'm

[Dan Bongino]

in a mood, but Donald Trump's been calling this out forever as he openly has pleaded with the minority community to say you are being just taken advantage of by a Democrat party doesn't give a damn about you. This is pretty well stated by this clip I saw yesterday. I just want to get out on the show.

[Justin]

Check this out.

[Bishop Patrick Wooden]

We actually in a place where the only way you can be black and stand with your people people is to be a Democrat. Now if that's where we are, we're the dumbest people on the face of the planet and we're the only people in America who operate that way. You can be white and be a Republican or Democrat, Hispanic and be a Republican or Democrat, praise the Lord, whatever, and be a Republican or Democrat. But if you're black, if you're black, the only way you can be an authentic black person is to be a Democrat. That's stupid and you know what it means. It means that explains why we spend half the time or maybe even more out of power. I've said for years we need to operate politically and I want to make this clear in a way where both parties will compete for our vote. When one party knows that they're going to get your vote no matter what, you get nothing from that party.

[Dan Bongino]

Bishop Patrick Wooden. Thank you. Some guy posted Vince Colon Ace. I never heard of him. He said, I saw this on another amazing podcast.

[Justin]

I don't know, I never heard of the guy.

[Dan Bongino]

He just posted in the chat. Is that the real Vince calling it? Of course you know Vince at 8am,

[Justin]

but I hope it's a real Vince. Text me Vince confirmation that that's actually you folks.

[Dan Bongino]

There's no giving up.

[Justin]

Hey, man, serious time, okay? The show's always an emotional roller coaster for me. Even when I'm done, I'm like mentally exhausted.

[Dan Bongino]

Dan, it's only an hour.

[Justin]

I'm telling you, like this show is

[Dan Bongino]

an investment in emotion.

[Justin]

There's no giving up.

[Dan Bongino]

I have been.

[Justin]

I'm obsessed with. I'm not a historian. I don't pretend to be, okay? I just love American history because there are times I say to myself,

[Dan Bongino]

jesus,

[Justin]

Father, God, thank you so much. Like, I am here by if this is not divine providence, there's. It's not luck.

[Dan Bongino]

We should not be here. This prosperous, unbelievably wealthy, strong, militarily strong United States with this great present.

[Paul]

We shouldn't. There is no way we should have

[Dan Bongino]

defeated the British Empire in the Revolution.

[Paul]

There's no. The math was just. It was like a thousand to one. There is no way. In 1620, the Pilgrims who came here and landed in Plymouth, there is no way they should have survived. There were, what, about a hundred of them? I think half of them made it. They shouldn't have even made it. They were infected with the flu. People were dying. They were starving. They had a really rough winter that year. They couldn't figure out how to till the soil. How the hell did they make. Was just luck. It's not luck, man. How the hell did we beat the British again in 1812? We were saved by, like, a thunderstorm. We survived two world wars, a civil

[Dan Bongino]

war, the hippies in Vietnam.

[Paul]

We have. And we're still growing and even more powerful. You think this is all luck and you want to give up because after a month of war overseas where we've destroyed the Iranian mullah theocracy chanting death

[Dan Bongino]

to America, trying to kill us with nuclear weapons, who tried to bargain with the strait and got it shoved right

[Paul]

up their caboose, you're a. I can't believe it.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm out. I'm not giving up, man. Because whether they were the Pilgrims, people who fought for civil liberties in the Civil War, my uncle who was shot in the back and got a Bronze Star with a V device in Vietnam for saving his buddies, my grandfather who fought In World War II, they dealt with a lot more tough shit than we're dealing with.

[Paul]

What are we dealing with?

[Dan Bongino]

Some guy on Twitter called you an asshole.

[Paul]

Like that's not a thing. Fuck him.

[Dan Bongino]

Pardon my language. Sorry.

[Justin]

I'm trying to get away from that.

[Paul]

That's not a thing. You know what a thing is? Sitting there in Valley Forge with George

[Dan Bongino]

Washington freezing to death, eating shoe leather

[Paul]

like that's a thing. They handed you down. This amazing country. We're alive at the most prosperous time ever. And there's a bunch of people, black pillars and doomers talking about.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not voting.

[Paul]

You know what?

[Dan Bongino]

You're a piece of shit. I'm sorry?

[Paul]

You're a disgrace to your forefathers who

[Dan Bongino]

fought multiple world wars, trench warfare, mustard gas,

[Paul]

had a deal with the potential

[Dan Bongino]

of the entire world imploding. And speaking German after Hitler invaded Poland.

[Paul]

And you're giving up because of what you don't like. A mean tweet. Do me a favor. Just check out and, like, renounce your

[Dan Bongino]

citizenship and move to Like Uganda or something.

[Paul]

Because we don't need you. Your. Your, your loser infection and your loser

[Dan Bongino]

mentality is going to infect other people. To your forefathers. Were people like this video I'm about to play. I saw this yesterday. You guys see this video? You want to be inspired. Why I always tell you like, I'm

[Paul]

not giving up, folks. If we win or lose the midterms,

[Dan Bongino]

I'm still not giving up.

[Paul]

If we win or lose the presidency in four years, end the midterms, I'm still not giving up. Why? Because I'm not giving up. I'm not giving up. There's no giving up. There's only the fight. That's all you have. You have one life. That is it. When you're done, you're done.

[Dan Bongino]

This is a Marine named Mike Egan.

[Justin]

If you haven't seen this video, hat tip Colin Rugg.

[Dan Bongino]

Marine combat veteran.

[Justin]

Mike Egan, of course, missing his lower limbs.

[Dan Bongino]

He's racing for 27 hours, traveling more than 110 miles in a wheelchair at the G1M Ultra. Egan was seen getting out of his wheelchair. Keep in mind, ladies and gentlemen, he has no legs. If you're listening on Apple or Spotify, I strongly encourage you to watch his. Egan was seen getting out of his wheelchair at one point due to the mud.

[Justin]

The wheelchair getting stuck in the mud.

[Dan Bongino]

The Go1More Ultra is a race which contestants run a four plus mile loop every hour on the hour until only one person remains. Egan placed in the top 28, outlasting 117 people with no legs.

[Justin]

Just watch the left side.

[Dan Bongino]

You want to give up? Someone tweeted at me. You are amazing. I'm upset.

[Justin]

He lost the congressional race. Donald Trump put a tweet up. It's really mean.

[Dan Bongino]

Look at this guy. Guy out you, no legs. He doesn't have legs.

[Justin]

He lost his limbs. He's a Marine combat veteran and he outlasted 117 people in an endurance race

[Dan Bongino]

without even his own wheelchair.

[Justin]

Yeah, light that chat up with American flags. You're damn right

[Dan Bongino]

that American flag means something, folks. It's not a freaking tablecloth, okay? We have one in the background for a reason. It's the idea of the flag that matters. It's not the fabric. I don't care what it's made out of. It can be made out of paper. Kids draw American flags on pieces of paper. It's the idea that matters. That guy Mike Egan is the idea. Clarence Thomas is the idea. Clarence Thomas didn't even have a bed growing up. I heard this morning he slept in a chair. And he always a Supreme Court justice. You want to give up because what Donald Trump sent out a mean tweet. You want to give up because what, oil, gases, gas and gas prices were up a dollar while we went and deposed of a nuclear threat in Iran. Now they're down $10 per barrel. You want to give up? I'm not giving up. I'm not giving up on squat, and I know you're not either. I did give a lot up. I gave up my job to go run for office. I gave up my job again to go back into government for the first year of the Trump administration. I'm not asking anybody for any pats on the back.

[Paul]

That's just what you do.

[Dan Bongino]

People have sacrificed a thousand times more than I have.

[Paul]

I live a good life.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not struggling out there. I don't deserve any extra praise.

[Paul]

I'm just telling you, like, there's no

[Dan Bongino]

excuse for that shit.

[Paul]

Just go look up what the fighting

[Dan Bongino]

in Bastogne at the Battle of the Bulge in World War II with these guys went through. And you're giving up because Donald Trump sent out a mean tweet?

[Justin]

That bullshit. We ain't doing that, man. That chat's on fire today.

[Dan Bongino]

And I'm going to tell you something else. It's really starting to exhaust me. I mean, we've made a joke out of it to, you know, to kind of use sarcasm as a tactical alinsk like weapon in this show, because when you poke fun at these other idiots, they have no natural comeback. Every single time Donald Trump outfoxes one of them in some strategic decision they said he didn't have in his head.

[Paul]

I've been in a room with him. He takes in everybody's opinion, synthesizes it into an output, and a good amount of the time, he makes a very effective leadership decision. Don't tell me what it's. I was there. I wasn't there every day with the guy.

[Dan Bongino]

I don't want to be dramatic, but

[Paul]

you're in the sit room maybe once a week or so with him or his team, and you see how they synthesize information. He's not lucky, okay? He's just good. You can say he's lucky.

[Dan Bongino]

Lucky Trump did it again in the street there. Why is the sound effect now?

[Paul]

Look at this.

[Dan Bongino]

That's for the Apple and Spotify folks.

[Paul]

But if this guy's lucky, how is it that so many people are just

[Dan Bongino]

falling for so many people? He's just lucky.

[Justin]

Lucky Donald Trump.

[Dan Bongino]

Now we've heard from podcastistan, right? I didn't make that up. I did not make that up. I know, it's funny.

[Justin]

Justin's laughing.

[Dan Bongino]

I didn't make it.

[Paul]

We've seen from podcastistan that Donald Trump has made some horrendous decisions over the last few months.

[Dan Bongino]

We have no real evidence of that. Now that we've seen the situation in Iran, Maduro, inflation coming down to PPI inflation, we've seen it all working in his direction. Correct. Tax returns going up. Your tax refunds more money in people's pockets.

[Paul]

We've been told he's losing folks everywhere and he's just lucky to be holding on to it, really.

[Dan Bongino]

Here is our favorite CNN pollster. I don't, I don't know how this guy's not been fired yet. Here's Harry Anton at cnn. Yes, cnn, not Fox.

[Paul]

Here he is on a poll. And why do I say this is an important group of people he's pulling

[Dan Bongino]

Harry Anton in this clip. This is why I'm putting it after Clarence Thomas. Nothing's by accident. I played Clarence Thomas. Then I played the clip of that pastor, the preacher, excuse me, telling black voters, do not monopolistically vote for one

[Paul]

party, make them go get you. There is no group of people in

[Dan Bongino]

America that does that better than seniors. None. So the seniors watching my show, one, thank you for your service, many of you and World War II, very few alive. But Vietnam and elsewhere, Afghanistan, Iraq, thank you all. Thank you to the seniors who built this country. I hate these like this mentality now. Like, hey, boomers, boss, shove that up your ass. These guys did more.

[Paul]

You kidding me? They lived a really tough life for you.

[Dan Bongino]

My grandparents survived the Depression, fought in World War II. Thank God for them.

[Paul]

Seniors vote.

[Dan Bongino]

They vote all the time, like everywhere.

[Paul]

And you know what happens? Politicians spend an unusual amount of money courting seniors because they vote. And you know what?

[Dan Bongino]

When a senior who's a 4 by 4 voter and you can tell that, you can't tell who people, we have a secret ballot. So I can't tell if I'm a congressman who you voted for, but I know you voted and I know your party registration. So if a senior, John Smith calls Congressman Joey Bag of Donuts, they looked him up right away. Folks, trust me, this happens to any staffer will tell you this.

[Justin]

Wow.

[Dan Bongino]

This is a senior who's a registered Republican who's voted in the last four primaries and last four general elections. A four by four.

[Paul]

Trust me when I tell you you're

[Dan Bongino]

getting instant results from your Congressman, seniors vote. So if seniors who are high percent propensity voters vote, and Donald Trump is. He sucks. He's doing everything wrong. This is terrible. He's being abandoned. Podcastan said it's true. Then how come Donald Trump is performing

[Paul]

historically better than any other president at

[Dan Bongino]

this point amongst the same said group of people? Seniors, receipts, incoming.

[Pollster (possibly Harry Anton)]

I'll answer your question, Mr. Berman, and that is because President Trump is more than holding his own amongst a very large portion of the electorate, a very reliable voting bloc, and that is senior citizens. Take a look here. Okay, Trump's approval rating, age 65 plus in March of 2025, 46%. Look at where it is now. It's basically seniors have not moved. He's at 44% now. And the key nugget here is for all this talk about young people in the electorate, such as myself, or at least I like to include myself in that block, it turns out that older voters, senior citizens vote in far larger numbers. So Republicans look at this number and they say, hey, you know what? We can actually potentially do some real damage or at least hold our own in the midterms because President President Trump is holding his own with this very important voting block.

[Paul]

It's got to be cnn.

[Dan Bongino]

They've turned pro Trump, Harry.

[Paul]

And is clearly lying because CNN's now the pro Trump. The podcast is saying, tell us otherwise. They don't laugh. They did, right? They told us it's over. Everybody's abandoning Donald Trump. Except you have no actual data to back that up. Didn't we put up that poll yesterday from Quinnipiac? Quinnipiac, no, pro Trump polling outlet. Trump's approval rating amongst Republicans, 88%. 88%. I thought it was down to like 10. I thought that's what you told us.

[Dan Bongino]

Put up the Wall Street Journal headline again.

[Paul]

Here's Lucky Trump strikes again.

[Dan Bongino]

He's just lucky with the seniors. He's just lucky on the PPI numbers, the Producers Price Index, inflation coming down there. He's just lucky on the Straits of Hormuz again.

[Paul]

Oh, look.

[Dan Bongino]

Oil prices fall after Iran says the Straits open. The Dow is now up. Looking at the Fox screen now. A thousand points. It's not down at the. Oh, it's up.

[Paul]

I thought everything was collapsing. We're closing in again on Dow 50,000. Man, this guy's lucky. Josh, he's lucky. Josh just walked out. Josh, how lucky is he? Way too lucky. There it is. Thank you, Justin. Quinnipiac Republicans only. President Trump approval 88%. Lucky Trump with sound effects strikes again. I saw our good friend Maga Kitty on Twitter. Put that out again, folks. Can we make that a thing? Make sure you put the air quotes

[Dan Bongino]

on it on Twitter.

[Paul]

Every time a good story breaks, Lucky Trump strikes again. Can we do that? Can we make that a thing? Just keep. Just to make a fool out of these idiots. This is the luckiest guy I've ever seen. Even if that was true. It is not. Again, give me the lucky winner rather than the unlucky loser. Who the hell wants to hang around the unlucky loser? Who is the. Who's the guy in the Bronx tale? Is it mush? The guy who's unlucky? And every time, remember, they bet on the horse and the race isn't even

[Dan Bongino]

over and they find out that that guy's his name.

[Paul]

Mush.

[Dan Bongino]

Tell me in the chat and they're

[Paul]

like, go number three or whatever. And everybody's like, oh shit. They throw the thing away cuz they know mush. But this is like the swamp.

[Dan Bongino]

They're the mush guy from A Bronx Tale.

[Paul]

Donald Trump is that Deadpool number two mutant lady and that's her power.

[Dan Bongino]

It's like he's lucky all the time. Is that mush? Someone in the chat got to help me.

[Justin]

We got 55,000 people.

[Dan Bongino]

We've been. Is it is mush, right? Someone said, who's that?

[Justin]

Who said that? Hold on, I got to give e.

[Dan Bongino]

Shame says we've been mush.

[Justin]

Is that it? Ok, good. I need you guys out there.

[Paul]

This is the luckiest guy I've ever seen. Here's Lucky Trump striking again.

[Dan Bongino]

Short clip here from cnbc. Again, no big pro. Trump Outlet. Correct. Cnbc.

[Paul]

Here's cnbc where Rick Santelli stunned.

[Dan Bongino]

They were expecting like a negative number about this manufacturing index.

[Paul]

Good, right?

[Dan Bongino]

United States manufacturing, producing a lot of stuff.

[Paul]

Not only is the number not negative, it's really positive. Lucky Trump strikes again. It's like magic, this guy.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out.

[Joe Kent]

Business outlook. Now that's the manufacturing side of the equation. It comes in at minus. I'm sorry, I'm reading it comes in at 26.7. No minus there. That's two and a half times what we expected. We're looking for a number around 10. Empire yesterday was quite strong as well. 26.7.

[Konstantin Kisin]

Wow.

[Joe Kent]

That would be the best level since January of 25. Since January 25. Really have to go back. And I know that, Joe, you've been paying very close attention and talking to many of the people on the Hill about what's going on with manufacturing Many believe, you know, we're not really making an impact. It's a long term, a long Runway to actually bring in onshore. But what we have noticed is last jobs report, we've seen a pickup of manufacturing jobs. We've seen Empire Philly. Now, I know in many ways this is anecdotal, but, you know, that's the way many big issues start, as anecdotal evidence. So we want to pay close attention to that.

[Paul]

Thank you, Chad.

[Dan Bongino]

Elite super grunt says, and thank you for the character in Deadpool is Domino.

[Paul]

I forget.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm sorry.

[Paul]

Donald Trump is Domino. That's Donald Trump. That's his superpower.

[Dan Bongino]

He's just lucky all the time.

[Paul]

It's amazing. It's like a mutation Donald Trump has. And then Donald Trump, for you, says, wow, the harder I work, the luckier I get. It's kind of like Donald Trump does the same thing. The guy sleeps. He's got some other, like, sleep mutation. He sleeps like four hours a night. I'm not recommending I have to sleep

[Dan Bongino]

seven or eight or else I fall apart. Jasmine knows that I come in like Dan didn't sleep well. You can tell right away that not

[Paul]

Trump guy sleeps four hours a night. He's in his office all day, takes meetings all day. He's in Vegas today, traveling around the world. The guy's in his second term. Usually by now, people are coasting. Let me tell you a story. Second term presidents, I was the whip

[Dan Bongino]

in ts, the transportation section in the Secret Service.

[Paul]

Second term Bush.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not knocking anyone personally.

[Paul]

I'm just saying what they usually do is they start engaging in world tours

[Dan Bongino]

at this point because they want a legacy.

[Paul]

This guy's still working. He knows he's termed out. He can just sit there and, like,

[Dan Bongino]

do the whole presidential routine.

[Paul]

And what is he doing?

[Dan Bongino]

He's rebuilding the White House, getting inflation under control, rebuilding manufacturing, shutting down the border, Safest America we've ever seen. Takes out the Iranian mullahs, advancing the Abraham Accords, trying to get peace in eight world wars.

[Paul]

He gets Maduro out of Venezuela, takes

[Dan Bongino]

control basically of our hemisphere through the Venezuelan ozone.

[Paul]

This guy, all he's got to do is sit down and, like, let his people do it. And he's still doing it, and everybody's still complaining.

[Dan Bongino]

He's Domino.

[Paul]

He's lucky. He's lucky.

[Dan Bongino]

And then the Black Pillars and the Doomer. The Doomers from Podcastan.

[Paul]

The Black Pillars and the Doomers. When he's not lucky, when he's not

[Dan Bongino]

Domino, he's Just a puppet. He's definitely a puppet.

[Paul]

Donald Trump.

[Dan Bongino]

Now. I'm going to tell you, like, the lucky line is dumb enough claiming Donald Trump is anybody's puppet. You're a handjob. Like, you are just really stupid. You're like Odd Job from James Bond. You're like Hand Job. You're the. You're like Odd Job, but you're just dumber. Do you have any idea how dumb that sounds?

[Paul]

Anyone who's even met Donald Trump for

[Dan Bongino]

five minutes, no disrespect intended, this cat is the alpha. Even when he comes in for the

[Paul]

handshake, he does the, you know, the dominant handshake. He comes in from, like, the sky level to make sure, you know, like, he's in charge. You don't have what. And he pulls you in. He. And he's a big guy, too.

[Dan Bongino]

Like, Donald Trump's a big guy.

[Paul]

He, like pulls you in and stares you right in the eye.

[Dan Bongino]

Total, like, alpha male style.

[Paul]

You don't have to like it.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm just telling you, if you ever meet him, it's true.

[Paul]

So it kind of pisses me off

[Dan Bongino]

a little bit when he's not domino and is not lucky that this guy's definitely a puppet. Who's been pumping that out there again, podcast to stand. You got Joe Kent, you know, like, falsely claiming like he was some kind of big decision maker at nctc.

[Paul]

He was not in the room with President Trump, folks. I was the deputy director of the FBI. I was in the room with President

[Dan Bongino]

Trump, I think twice. Most of the time I was at the White House. I was in there in what they call a dc, Like a deputies committee. Then they have a PC, a Principals committee. That's how it works.

[Paul]

He was not in there for war

[Dan Bongino]

planning with President Trump.

[Paul]

Joe Kent's entitled to his opinion. I thank him for his service to the country.

[Dan Bongino]

I do. Took a lot of bravery.

[Paul]

But that doesn't mean that what Joe Kent is telling you is right.

[Dan Bongino]

A lot of people serve the country honorably.

[Paul]

It doesn't give you, like a truth pass forever. He was not in the room for this stuff. Meaning he doesn't know.

[Dan Bongino]

Why is that important? Because Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, who I promise you is in the room for just about everything, given the intersection of national defense, Pete is in there all the time. Secretary Hegseth, the secretary was asked a question yesterday about Joe Kent and being in the room and Donald Trump a puppet and all this stuff. I think Pete's answer was pretty fantastic.

[Justin]

Donald Trump is nobody's puppet. Check this out. Director Joe Kent have attempted to claim that the Trump administration's policy of zero enrichment for the Iranians is not actually President Trump's policy, but was foisted upon him by the Israelis. Looking back, doing a bit of a refresher for myself, I saw that zero enrichment was the Trump State Department's policy in the first admin. Just stopped.

[Joe Kent]

First, as someone who, unlike the individual you referenced, is in the presence of the president nearly every day and has been inside every single key meeting that has happened surrounding the idea of Operation Epic Fury, not a single thing has been foisted upon the president. United States President Trump makes his own decisions about the interests of this country and defending our interest and then working with allies and partners, in this case Israel, who's got a lot of will and a lot of capabilities, which we're grateful for. Nothing gets foisted on President Trump. So those people who are not in those meetings who like to say things about that are just flat wrong.

[Dan Bongino]

They are flat wrong. You want some more proof? Here's an account I like. Osint Defender on X. So Donald Trump's a puppet for Netanyahu, you know, dumb.

[Paul]

That sounds, you know, stupid. You look right now.

[Dan Bongino]

Here's a tweet that just went out. The Israeli government ministers were outraged by today's announcement of a ceasefire with Lebanon, which was revealed on True Social by President Trump, who gave Israel's consent to the ceasefire before it could be approved by the Israeli Security Cabinet, according to this news outlet.

[Paul]

I'm not telling you, you got to like the decision. I'm not talking about the decision to make a.

[Dan Bongino]

To engage in a ceasefire with Lebanon or not.

[Paul]

Forget that for a second. You can argue that all day. I'm talking about the premise that Kent and others. I don't have any personal beef with Joe.

[Dan Bongino]

I know, Joe, that a decorated history with the United States in his military service, which is honorable.

[Paul]

But that doesn't make him right. If Donald Trump's a puppet of the Israeli, he's a really shitty puppet. He's the only puppet that's ever sent the puppet strings in reverse. You're just making it up. Donald Trump is America First. If the Israelis or the Pakistanis or

[Dan Bongino]

there's a bunch of parties involved in

[Paul]

this, want to align with the America first vision and help us, he will take their help. If they don't, he's going to do it himself. Stop lying.

[Dan Bongino]

It really is, folks. It's sickening. It's like, I swear I've never seen A guy the Israeli puppet masters.

[Paul]

And yet the Israelis seem to be upset when Donald Trump doesn't do what

[Dan Bongino]

he, you know, they don't want him

[Paul]

to do because he's doing what's in the interest of what he perceives to be America, whether you agree with it or not. So then we move on, of course,

[Dan Bongino]

from here's the evolution of tds. This, this infection, this Trump derangement syndrome infection, that is very real, okay?

[Paul]

It may not be an actual protein

[Dan Bongino]

code virus, but I promise you it's real.

[Paul]

First, he's lucky.

[Dan Bongino]

If he's not lucky, he's a puppet.

[Paul]

Then if he's not a puppet, he's just freaking insane and crazy and we

[Dan Bongino]

should get him out of office. You doubt me? Here's this lunatic, Jamie Raskin. I want you to hat tip the great Mays more on X M A Z E M O O R E. Follow. Great. Follow. Fantastic. Especially if you're in this space. Best show prep out there. He should charge maze more maze. I'll start a business with you. You're fantastic here. This is Jamie Raskin, crazy Democrat Congressman.

[Paul]

Here's the evolution of tds.

[Dan Bongino]

First he's lucky, then he's a puppet, then he's crazy.

[Paul]

You can't just say he's good.

[Dan Bongino]

You can't say, God forbid you say that.

[Paul]

Here's raskin first.

[Dan Bongino]

In 2018, when Biden's mental fitness came into it. That's crazy. Here's Raskin said, we can't be arguing about that 25th Amendment. Biden, who seriously had some serious mental issues going on. Donald Trump does not. So he doesn't want to talk about that.

[Paul]

And then when it comes to Donald Trump, he completely flips his position. With no actual evidence of cognitive deficit that Biden actually had.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out.

[Jamie Raskin]

President is dangerous and unable to successfully meet the powers and duties of office.

[Paul]

We got serious stuff to deal with.

[Jamie Raskin]

And instead we're caught up every day in what looks like the country debating the mental health of the president. So it's a very dangerous and unstable situation. What is our institutional responsibility as the U.S. congress? And we've got that under the 25th Amendment. People see his age as, you know, something that helps to explain some of his wisdom and some of his compassion. The kind of compassion you see not just within his family, but outside of it. That compassion for people in his family, which is real and authentic, becomes solidarity for everybody in the country who's struggling, as well as for people around the world. I mean, it's taken us, you know, two and a half centuries to get to a president who is imposing this kind of stress on our constitutional system. But the closest thing we have to deal with a situation like this is section four of the 25th amendment.

[Justin]

Thank you, Vince, for confirming that was you. By the way, Vince texted me.

[Dan Bongino]

So that is the evolution of tds. If you don't catch the infection early at the Trump is lucky stage, it evolves to the puppet stage, which then evolves to he's crazy.

[Paul]

Notice he's never good, ever.

[Dan Bongino]

Despite mounds of evidence we've put out

[Paul]

on the show just in the last few days.

[Dan Bongino]

Producers price index, jobs reports, inflation numbers, the straits.

[Paul]

It doesn't matter.

[Justin]

He's just lucky it's a puppet.

[Dan Bongino]

He's definitely crazy. Folks, I titled the show today the Dem Sinister Plot.

[Justin]

I probably should have. It was my idea. I don't like that title.

[Dan Bongino]

I don't like clickbait titles. But it is a sinister plot. Maybe that was too harsh of a word, but this is really important you understand what they're doing right now. I'm going to take a quick break and I'm going to show you exactly what I mean. Because if you this is regarding elections and the theft of elections, national, local, all of it. If you don't understand this next five minute segment about what they're doing, you're going to get your electoral nuts kicked in. You have to understand this. It's ties in immigration, demographic destiny, redistricting, all of it. Quick break. Don't miss this next segment. Spread this around as a warning because if we win this, we could be in charge for two, three decades. If we lose, we we may never win an election again. Folks, hiring could feel like searching for a needle in a haystack with piles of applications, emails and follow ups consuming valuable time before you ever meet the right person. Use ZipRecruiter. It is so easy to use. It is really quick. It'll save you time. And time is money if you're hiring. Here's good. Stop wasting time. You can review all of those resumes and applications really fast thanks to ZipRecruiter. It works. ZipRecruiter has a new feature. It instantly shows you the most interested qualified candidates first.

[Justin]

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[Dan Bongino]

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[Justin]

Ziprecruiter.com Bongino don't waste time.

[Dan Bongino]

Okay, you need to understand this. This is a five minute tutorial on the Democrats. Yes. Sinister plot to engage in open border demographic destiny to make sure they're never out of power for the next two generations. Folks, the Democrat there are. We're going to focus on two specific things. First, the House of Representatives, you know, your local congressman. Okay. The Senate races are obviously decided statewide. However, those are important to the Senate races. However, congressional races are decided by congressional districts. The Democrats want open borders because they need people to flood back in the country so they can manipulate the census because people are evacuating blue states. When people leave blue states and move to red states, red states get more members of the House of Representatives because it's based on population. Population grows. You get more congressmen. When you get more congressmen, you also get more electoral college votes for the presidency. The presidency, I'm sorry, for civics. One on one. But there are some liberals here. The presidency is not a national election vote. It is a series of state votes.

[Paul]

The popular vote does not determine who

[Dan Bongino]

the president is, okay? It is decided by the Electoral College. You win a state, you get their electoral college votes. If a state has 25 electoral college votes, that means they had 23 congressmen plus their two senators. That's how you get the Electoral College votes. Okay, good.

[Paul]

Get it.

[Dan Bongino]

Got it. Good. I know most of you know that. Now, there are a couple things going on right now. We got the Save America act, which would implement voter id, which would cut off the cheating. We know about that. We got to push on that hard. But also, I want you to see this tweet by Eric Daughtry. This is why the Democrats are freaking out. And this is why they cannot have the Save act go through. The Save act go through, and it eliminates cheating. The Democrats are in trouble. If the redistricting in 2030, which is right around the corner, goes the way we think it's going to go every 10 years, there's a census count and there's a redistricting that goes on. They're looking at Eric Daughtry tweet. You know, it's massive. Democrats are staring down a devastating Electoral college loss of 14 net seats in the 2030 census.

[Paul]

This will severely constrain their ability to

[Dan Bongino]

win the House and presidency. Florida, Texas, Idaho, Utah are going to gain. California, New York, Illinois, Rhode island are going to lose if they don't count illegal aliens in this, which I hope happens. This is why the Democrats are fighting so hard to get illegal aliens into the country and to count them. It's going to be even worse. The Democrats will not be able to win the House of Representatives and they will not be able to win the presidency.

[Paul]

By pure math, they do not have

[Dan Bongino]

enough Electoral College votes and members in Republican districts. If people start flooding out of blue states and the numbers they are now and the Democrats don't replace them with illegals. So now you have the redistricting problem. This is for the Democrats. They're going to lose seats and Electoral College votes. You also have the problem of the Save America act, which at some point I hope we get through. I'm with Mike Lee. Dump this filibuster and get it through that. It stopped the cheating, which would make it even worse. Third, if we can get illegals not counted, which they shouldn't be, in the next Census, the problem's even worse.

[Paul]

There is no scenario by which this

[Dan Bongino]

works out for the Democrats.

[Paul]

Then you have, well, you know, I'll

[Dan Bongino]

go a little bit out of order. Put up that OSC tweet. Here's another problem they have. There is a Supreme Court case pending now that is not going very well for the Democrats on the Voting Rights

[Paul]

act that they may lose because they're trying to.

[Dan Bongino]

The Democrats want to racially gerrymander districts.

[Paul]

If they lose that case, which looks

[Dan Bongino]

likely, but I want to get out ahead of myself.

[Paul]

Here's the current map.

[Dan Bongino]

65 Republican in these districts are talking about 65 Republicans, 24 Democrats.

[Paul]

If they lose this case, it'll be

[Dan Bongino]

77 Republicans and 12 Democrats. That's what the map down in the Southeast would look like. The current map and the plausible scenario,

[Paul]

if they lose this case, notice it's all red. They are in a world of trouble.

[Dan Bongino]

Why do I not give up?

[Paul]

Because what are we giving up on? We're living in the golden age of politics. And in case you doubt me, this clip is a couple of years old,

[Dan Bongino]

but we keep it. Evergreen. This is Representative Yvette Clark from, I think, New York.

[Paul]

She is talking to. She's a Democrat. She's discussing this exact problem the Democrats have that because people are evacuating blue states and blue districts like hers. Once it shrinks below a certain number, her congressional seat disappears and it gets added to Florida.

[Dan Bongino]

She's like, hey, man, I'll take some of these illegals in my district.

[Paul]

This is a couple years old.

[Dan Bongino]

But I just want you.

[Paul]

This is when the Democrats say the

[Dan Bongino]

quiet part out loud.

[Paul]

Why am I not giving up? You're a Democrat. You should be the one giving up.

[Dan Bongino]

There's nothing looking good for you on this front. Check this out.

[Paul]

Brooklyn, New York, we have a diaspora that can absorb a significant number of these migrants. And when I hear colleagues talk about the doors of the inn being closed,

[Dan Bongino]

no room in the inn, I'm saying

[Paul]

I need more people in my district just for redistricting purposes. And those members could clearly fit here.

[Dan Bongino]

Of course they could fit there. They would save your congressional seat and your electoral college vote for the presidency.

[Paul]

Do you now do you understand why Democrats constantly lobby for open borders?

[Dan Bongino]

Folks, I promise you, if you put into. I'm not suggesting anyone should do this.

[Paul]

If you put into the law, we

[Dan Bongino]

will let everyone in, everyone in illegally. But they have to vote Republican.

[Paul]

The Democrats would be foreclosing the border tomorrow.

[Dan Bongino]

It's ridiculous. However, you know it's true.

[Paul]

This has nothing to do with anything

[Dan Bongino]

other than electoral power. They don't care about immigrants.

[Paul]

If you're an immigrant, they don't give

[Dan Bongino]

a damn about you.

[Paul]

They don't care. You are nothing but a tool for them.

[Dan Bongino]

Listen, we've got serious problems ahead. All right? This is time for serious people. You've got the drone issue we're still trying to figure out. In warfare, you've got the quantum computing AI developments. You've got, you know, super sophisticated AI driven malware.

[Paul]

You've got flaws in our industrial control

[Dan Bongino]

systems where foreign actors in a cyber attack could shut down our grid if

[Paul]

we don't act and act quickly.

[Dan Bongino]

You've got space weapons, satellite weapons, hypersonic missiles.

[Paul]

We have real problems to deal with. This is no time for clowns and jokers and goons and freaking doomers.

[Dan Bongino]

The AI threat really worries me. It worries me because we don't understand it. I saw this clip on Konstantin kissing show.

[Paul]

Who's the guy?

[Dan Bongino]

Justin.

[Paul]

What's his name?

[Dan Bongino]

Roman Yampolsky. I want you to pay very close attention to this clip about AI. Here is the. Here's the problem in analyzing AIs. We don't know how it does what it does and how it's going to evolve if it ever is to develop into a superintelligence or AGI.

[Paul]

I told you a story one time

[Dan Bongino]

about imagining a superintelligence is impossible because

[Paul]

you can't imagine it.

[Dan Bongino]

It's like when that. When I was living in my old house, you know, my dog Lucy. I'm more intelligent than Lucy. And so the dumbest human being on planet Earth is light years ahead of Lucy the dog.

[Paul]

Lucy go out in the yard every day.

[Dan Bongino]

One day a bird died in the

[Justin]

yard and I threw the bird out. You know, threw in the garbage. Dead.

[Dan Bongino]

So Lucy, who'd been running around in the yard forever, but she's a dog, she has no advanced reasoning powers. Of course she runs right to the corner to smell where the dead bird went. I freak out cuz I don't want that all over her nose.

[Justin]

Dead bird blood.

[Paul]

I'm like Lucy. And Lucy looks up to me.

[Dan Bongino]

So scared. I love this guy, that big dog named Dane.

[Justin]

She probably thinks I'm a big dog.

[Paul]

Why is he yelling at me?

[Dan Bongino]

I've been in this spot a thousand times.

[Paul]

She doesn't know.

[Dan Bongino]

You can't explain to Lucy a bird died. There is probably germs there. I don't want you to get sick. She doesn't know. The problem is us developing some AGI superintelligence.

[Paul]

You have no idea what it's going to do.

[Dan Bongino]

That is just elegantly explained in this clip here. This is what worries me about AI

[Justin]

and why we need serious people in charge.

[Dan Bongino]

From this Konstantin kissing show.

[Justin]

This guy explains it really well. Check this out. Out.

[Konstantin Kisin]

How will AI destroy humanity? That's a great question. And what you're doing is you're asking me how I would destroy humanity. And I have many good ideas. It's not what a super intelligent system would do. It's capable of coming up with new weapons, new physics, new poisons. Example I frequently use is squirrels versus humans. It's a big cognitive gap. Squirrels have no concept of how we can kill them all. They don't know about guns. They don't know about traps. It's outside of their world model. Likewise, I cannot tell you how super intelligence would specifically go about it. But there are many game theoretic reasons for why it's a good idea not to have competing species, not to have humans create another super intelligence. Maybe it just wants to do something with this environment and doesn't care about us.

[Justin]

But I guess the question would be in terms of your certainty, why you believe that AI, if it becomes artificial general intelligence, why it would hurt human beings, what would be the way that you think that would happen?

[Konstantin Kisin]

So what I kind of started saying it's not because it hates you, because it wants to do something else and it doesn't care about you. So maybe it wants to cool down the whole planet to improve how efficient compute is just it's more capable of doing computation in a colder environment. So if it freezes the whole planet, we die. Does it care about it? No, it doesn't matter. Maybe it wants to convert this planet into a fuel, fly to another galaxy. I'm giving kind of hypotheticals which are not grounded in anything. But the point is it just doesn't have any built in concern about your safety, your well being.

[Dan Bongino]

Yes, we're asking all the wrong questions about AI, like why would it hate us?

[Paul]

It doesn't have the capacity to hate or love.

[Dan Bongino]

It's not a human being with God given emotions.

[Paul]

It only has the power to engage in what it thinks is reason. It's. Folks, we don't have time to be

[Dan Bongino]

dicking around man with a clown show.

[Paul]

I'd rather have the lucky guy in

[Dan Bongino]

charge who wins and gets it and takes advice from smart people. Given the quantum issue, hypersonic space weapons and all of this stuff, rather than

[Paul]

a bunch of dipshits who are unlucky

[Dan Bongino]

and lose all the time.

[Paul]

This stuff is happening now. It's not five years away, it's not 10 years away.

[Dan Bongino]

It is the now, the right now.

[Paul]

You know, one of the things about

[Dan Bongino]

this show I always wanted to make

[Justin]

a little bit different than others is

[Dan Bongino]

folks, the essence of conservatism.

[Justin]

And I consider myself a conservative, kind

[Dan Bongino]

of a conservatarian, but conservative.

[Justin]

First is the education component. We've got an election coming up and

[Dan Bongino]

the whole idea about conservative conservatism is that we conserve really timeless good ideas. The problem is we've lost the education system. So many people believe so many stupid things because they've been taught it by educators that it's like hard to, it's hard to suck them out of the intellectual doldrums. When I was running for office, I think it was my Senate race in Maryland, I remember Being out in a school in western Maryland. The dad was a campaign volunteer and his daughter went to the school and

[Paul]

the school was like, hey, you want to come in?

[Dan Bongino]

And I was like, okay. So I'm in this history class and

[Paul]

I'm looking at the back and they

[Dan Bongino]

have these poster boards up and on

[Paul]

the poster boards is a whole bunch

[Dan Bongino]

of laudatory like how FDR saved us from the Great Depression. How the government came in and saved us from the Great Depression.

[Paul]

And I couldn't believe it.

[Dan Bongino]

Like I'm reading this.

[Paul]

Like these are impressionable kids who this

[Dan Bongino]

is like postered on the back of the.

[Paul]

Literally like they're going to read this every day and think this is true.

[Dan Bongino]

Why wouldn't they?

[Paul]

The teacher told them that's not what happened. It's like retelling the story of the civil rights movement and making the Democrats

[Dan Bongino]

who were the goats, like the ba goats, not the greatest of all time, the heroes.

[Paul]

They were the bad guys.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm not blaming Democrats now for it.

[Paul]

But that's just a fact. Tell people the truth.

[Dan Bongino]

The Great Depression was exacerbated by government intervention.

[Paul]

If the government just would have left it alone, we would have been there. Wouldn't have been. It would have been the Depression or the recession. It's called the Great Depression because the

[Dan Bongino]

government tried to fix it.

[Paul]

Don't let your kids believe otherwise. It is an anchor theory of modern

[Dan Bongino]

progressivism that FDR was some superhero here. Check out this minute clip by Thomas Sowell. Thomas Sowell Quotes count on X Some

[Justin]

of this stuff is really great. Check this out.

[Thomas Sowell]

There's this narrative out there that the reason we had massive unemployment in the 30s was because the market failed, the stock market crashed and you had all this tremendous unemployment. Now it so happens that the stock for the 12 months following the stock market crash we never hit double digits in unemployment. Unemployment peaked at 9% two months after the stock market crash and started going down. So the unemployment rate was down to 6.3% when the federal government figured it had to intervene and that's when the downward movement reversed and we never saw 6.3% again for the next decade. So if you follow the actual month by month employment number, it's just clear as crystal that the disaster came after federal intervention.

[Dan Bongino]

I just get tired of malevolent bullshit history being shoved down our kids throats. So they believe government is going to come and save you one day and they're like the benevolent puppet mast. Cut the strings man.

[Paul]

Do your own homework.

[Dan Bongino]

Timeless wisdom from Thomas Sowell.

[Justin]

That's at Daily Soul on X. Check it out. Some of those are just fantastic.

[Dan Bongino]

Does facts and data even matter? So, folks, we, Paul and I are

[Justin]

going through something, right? That's no big deal. It's. I don't want to be like, I'm okay. I'm not, not like dying or anything. It's not a health thing. But, you know, Paul and I have been going through a lot and we had kind of a rough day yesterday. Really rough day. So I, if I have to take some time next week, I will have a guest host for you. I'm not sure about that yet. I don't know. I'm still waiting to hear some things. I will put it out on my X or my True Social account if I have to, but I will have a guest host if I have to take a day or two. I, I don't know. I'm. Unfortunately, this was not expected. However, you know, I, I saw this. Hug your loved ones. You know, like, hug them. Like really hug them. Hug them and tell them why you're hugging them. You know, like, don't just hug them and give me a hug. Like, tell them why. You know, I'm not writing a parenting book. That's not a 12 step program. I mean, I'm as flawed a human being as anyone else. But I try to give my daughter two hugs every day before I go to bed, at night, before she leaves for school. I actually missed her today because they were running late. So what I do, I called my wife in the car and she put her on speaker in the car. And I made sure, you know, they

[Dan Bongino]

need to hear that.

[Justin]

It's not so much even for you, it's just for them.

[Dan Bongino]

They really need to hear that.

[Justin]

Hug them. Like really hug them and make sure they know why.

[Dan Bongino]

And sometimes I make the mistake.

[Justin]

I say to my daughter, you know, love you. That's a mistake. Say, I love you. I me. Don't abbreviate it. I love you unconditionally. I love you. So I saw this piece in the Wall Street Journal. Wall Street Journal, yeah. No, because it's important. It's relevant to this. Yesterday I had a guest on my show a long time ago who wrote a book. I have no financial interest in this book, folks, at all.

[Dan Bongino]

The author's a guy by the name of Hugh Ross and he wrote a

[Justin]

book, he's an astrophysicist. I had him as a guest on my show one time.

[Dan Bongino]

And the book is called why the

[Justin]

Universe is the Way It Is.

[Dan Bongino]

And if you don't believe in God. That's certainly your God given right, ironically,

[Justin]

especially in a free country like ours.

[Dan Bongino]

But I suggest you read the book.

[Justin]

What the heck does Astrophysics have to do with God?

[Paul]

Folks?

[Justin]

Our universe is so unbelievably, elegantly tuned that there is just no way it wasn't designed by an intelligent designer far more intelligent than. Oh, there's the book. I can't recommend this book enough. It's an easy read. You don't have to be a physicist.

[Dan Bongino]

You'll find out if gravity was off

[Justin]

by just a smidge, the whole place would collapse. If gravity was not strong enough, the whole universe would just keep expanding at a rate that would make it uninhabitable.

[Dan Bongino]

If we weren't in this exact spot,

[Justin]

Earth that is in the universe, we

[Dan Bongino]

wouldn't be able to see the entirety of what we're able to see. It's almost like God gave us this spot so we could see the majesty

[Justin]

of what he created.

[Dan Bongino]

Well, the Wall Street Journal had a

[Justin]

piece about this yesterday. Apparently there's a movie coming out. I was unaware of this movie, but I read this in the Op Ed section like I do every night.

[Dan Bongino]

There's a movie coming out called the

[Justin]

Story of Everything, and it's about God and creation.

[Dan Bongino]

And they note that the movie turns to the discovery in recent decades of what they call fine tuning. The universe possesses a long list of properties, each of which must be just so. If gravity were infinitesimally stronger, all matter

[Justin]

would have collapsed back in on itself. But if gravity were infinitesimally weaker, stars and galaxies would have never been formed to support life. Earth itself must just lie the right distance from the sun, project just the right magnetic field, project just the right gravity to hold in place an atmosphere of just the right density, and so on and so on. I don't believe in luck. God's not Domino, I promise. Read the book.

[Dan Bongino]

Read the article.

[Justin]

It's by Peter Robinson. It's in yesterday's Op Ed column. I haven't seen this movie, so I can't vouch for it or not, but I assume it's about the same thing. It's not luck. It's not luck. So again, you know, grab your loved ones, grab your. Tell them I love you. I make it about them. And just remember this, too. I saw this yesterday, too. That when you, you know, you're down and out and I forget politics for a minute, but just life in general. I'm not your preacher, but I've been through a lot. You know that Cancer thing scared the hell out of me. You don't want to die. I think that's fairly obvious. But you don't.

[Dan Bongino]

I mean, you don't think.

[Justin]

Nobody goes through life thinking, like, I don't want to die. Until you sense, like, an expiration date.

[Dan Bongino]

Then all of a sudden, you really don't want to die.

[Justin]

I mean, who wakes up in the

[Dan Bongino]

morning, I don't want to die today? Nobody thinks like that until you're told,

[Justin]

like, you have a disease that could kill you. And then you're like, man, I really

[Dan Bongino]

don't want to die.

[Justin]

The scary thing. So I saw this video yesterday. It was just not by chance. I think someone made sure. I saw this video, and it was this monk talking about how when you think everything is terrible in your life, you know, and you think you have a thousand problems when your life is flashing before you, whether it's a crime, a disease, you don't have a thousand problems. You have one that's staying alive. That'll focus you real quick while you listen to this. Check this out.

[Paul]

You mean any sports?

[Monk]

Any sport. So sport is already good, ultimately, meaning, take care of the body. Because, you know, there is a nice saying. As long as your body is healthy, you have thousands of problems. Yeah. But in the moment your body gets sick, you have one problem.

[Paul]

That's really true.

[Konstantin Kisin]

Yeah, that.

[Paul]

Yeah, that's true.

[Monk]

Okay, so this is. That's why. I mean, first of all, before, like, tackling everything, so how to build up your life and how to, whatever do, make sure. Sure your body stays healthy. If the body is not healthy, you don't need to worry about anything else. So respect, take care and love your body. Nourish your body, Nourish yourself in such a way that you understand it's something right now very, very precious to have. Okay? This is number one.

[Justin]

I cannot emphasize that to you enough. That's why I tell you, like, grab them. Tell them you love them. Love yourself. I mean that like. I mean, in some weird kind of way, like, take care of yourself, too, because we all have an expiration date. But when you know it, you get pretty focused pretty fast. Just think about that.

[Dan Bongino]

I really appreciate it, folks.

[Justin]

You all are the, without a doubt, the best audience in this business. You guys been with me through thick and thin, and there's been a lot of thick and a lot of thin. It's been 10 years, and it's just such an honor to be able to get on this microphone every day and talk to this stadium full of people who choose to be here. Thanks for spreading the word around the show. I'm not gonna run any. I just wanna, you know, it's time for me to just. Wow. So hopefully I will be back with you on Monday. Either way we will have a guest dose if I can't be here and I will let you know on X. So thanks for tuning in and I'll see you next week.