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Dan Bongino
Get ready to hear the truth about.
Tommy Lahren
America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino. You know, it is the peak of naivete and ignorance to suggest an alternative plan without suggesting an alternative plan.
Dan Bongino
It's like the Moneyball theory.
Tommy Lahren
If he's a good hitter, why didn't he hit good?
Dan Bongino
Ever see the movie Moneyball?
Tommy Lahren
Like, yeah, he's a good hitter and he's. Well, if he's a good hitter, why didn't he hit good? Why doesn't he. Kind of a simple question. I say that regarding the still ongoing fallout over Friday's disastrous Oval Office meeting and how this is just rippled through international geopolitics. You have a bunch of other people asking a very simple question, especially on the MAGA side and around the world. A lot of populists around the world are saying, well, what's your plan to rescue Ukraine? I saw this question asked last night in an interview, and who was it was with?
Dan Bongino
Was it Chip Roy and Kaitlan Collins?
Tommy Lahren
Like, what's your plan? I don't understand. You keep talking about this, this tragic war going on in Ukraine, but you've yet to present a viable alternative where Ukraine comes out. The. I'm using air quotes here because there are no winners, but the winner in this. Are you obligated if you say this? In other words, okay, the Trump plan sucks. I don't like it say that.
Dan Bongino
That's your theory, Tommy boy style, right? If you know what I mean.
Tommy Lahren
The Trump plan sucks. Okay, that's easy to have an opinion. What's your alternative? You notice crickets? Everybody's quiet. It's really troubling because your inability to express what your plan is, A to Z, your inability to do that means continued bloodshed and body bags. Folks, there's an expression called real politic.
Dan Bongino
I encourage you to look it up there.
Tommy Lahren
You got to deal with the world as it is, not the world as you'd like it to be. We're not writing Robert Frost poems here. People are dying over there. I got a lot to talk about. This story has really shaken up the entire world.
Dan Bongino
I mean that in the actual essence.
Tommy Lahren
Of what I said, folks, it's been.
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Tommy Lahren
So I'm going to say this again if and in my listening audience as well, I know there are a diversity of opinions on this. I have a big MAGA audience here. A lot of people in this audience are obviously going to agree with the Donald Trump approach, which is, if we're going to help you, we need something for you to help us too, so we can sell to the American people that we are going to stay involved in another overseas war that is not in our homeland. I'm not saying we don't have an interest in it at all. It's not what I'm suggesting, but it's not here. I hope it's never here, but it's not here. We are consistently asked to step up for other countries and the United States has done that. But the United States citizen financing all this, many of whom serve in our military have come home missing fingers, limbs, if they've come home at all. Some of them are in body bags or shallow graves overseas and wars they've died in. Have a simple question. What's the plan to win this? Folks, the only alternative I've heard expressed here from this continued pro Ukraine funding. We need to do everything we can for Ukraine to win the war. The only thing I've heard suggested is basically a war of attrition, that we will fund them until the Russians get tired. Folks, I'm not really sure that's a battle plan. You're assuming at this point that Vladimir Putin doesn't have so much invested in this Ukraine war that he can just casually pull out. That's not a plan. You know, I think J.D. vance said, Vice President Vance said hope isn't a plan. So yesterday, President Trump upped the ante.
Dan Bongino
On this and said, listen, President Zelensky.
Tommy Lahren
If you're not going to come to the table and do a mutually agreed upon deal where we win, you have the military support you need to continue this battle. If you're not going to do it, then we're out. And as I said to you before, the biggest mistake you can make. Did I not say this to you folks in the chat? Did I not say this a couple of weeks ago? Throw right in the garbage and flush down the ball. This whole thing. Take Trump seriously, but not literally. No, take him literally and seriously. You're seeing that now with terrorists, which we'll get to. You're also seeing it with Ukraine funding. President Trump was crystal clear, either make a deal with us on this minerals deal and let's engage in some kind of substantive peace process, or make no mistake, we're out. That's what he said. If you made the mistake of not taking him literally, I encourage you to read this article in the Guardian. Of all places. US Suspends all military aid to Ukraine in wake of Trump Zelensky row.
Dan Bongino
I.
Tommy Lahren
Again, I told you repeatedly that is a serious underestimation of negotiator spreadsheets. Donald Trump.
Dan Bongino
Yeah, that's a great.
Tommy Lahren
We only have one plan to win and survive. Okay, I appreciate your resilience and the brave people over there who put up an amazing fight and continue to do so, but you have to have a plan right now. You keep saying we have only one plan to win. Well, what does that plan look like? Because that's not what's happening right now. This is the biggest tactical error I've seen made over and over repeatedly with Donald Trump's opponents. Is this idea that he's just not serious when he says these things? No, he's as serious as a heart attack. He's not kidding.
Dan Bongino
Here's a piece of video here.
Tommy Lahren
Zelensky says, hey, the war is going to go on. That's your choice. That's your choice. But I think Donald Trump's been crystal clear about the level of United States support for the next four years, and that's a long time. I encourage you to take him seriously and literally.
Dan Bongino
Check this out.
Kaitlan Collins
President Zelensky supposedly made a statement today in ap. I'm not a big fan of ap, so maybe it was an incorrect statement, but he said he thinks the war is going to go on for a long time and he better not be right about that. That's all I'm saying.
Tommy Lahren
You know, I'm going to hit this point again and again and again, folks. I'm proud of our consistency in our argument here.
Dan Bongino
I'm proud of that. It means the show is bedrocked in principles.
Tommy Lahren
Listen, I've changed my mind on, on, on some things over the years, on, on industrial policy and trade. I've changed my mind, not fully, but on the margins a bit. I've moved in a different direction. Some people have convinced me to change my mind on things. But what's strange is about the anti Trump ideological left, how they flip the script and completely dump in a 180 everything they claim they stood for. You have to remember starting in that Vietnam era, it was largely that generation, you know, you had the hippies and others who were all, you know, all we are saying is give peace a chance. I mean, there were songs, there were entertainment, there were protests on college campuses. Well, Donald Trump is trying to get, you know, to quote the song is trying to give peace a chance. I'm a little confused that, I mean, I'm not, I understand exactly what you're doing. You just don't like Donald Trump. So anything he says, you have this reflexive. Whatever he says, take the opposite approach. However, do you understand that this is, you're not, you're not generating public support. You need to build political capital. By now being on the side of an endless war where I'll say again, like I said in the beginning of the show, you have yet to provide an exit ramp. You keep saying we have to ensure the Ukrainians win. How. Let me give you an analogy just.
Dan Bongino
In permission for analogies. Thank you. I gotta be honest, I stole that from the five. There's a long story about that with the five. A couple analogies went really bad on the five.
Tommy Lahren
So Jesse would always say, permission to use.
Dan Bongino
If you hear it now, you'll know what I mean. That's the inside baseball. It's kind of funny.
Tommy Lahren
Imagine being a coach for a sports team.
Dan Bongino
My favorite team, say the Auburn Tigers. And you're the baseball coach or whatever. He's a great guy, I love him.
Tommy Lahren
And they ask you, hey, what's your strategy? We're going to win. How, coach? Ah, we're just going to figure it out. Like we're gonna. That's not a, that's not a plan. The sports media would be like, hey, coach, you got anything else? You're gonna build out the middle relief. You're gonna, you're gonna close out your problems at third base or center field or whatever. I mean, it's Not a plan. Right, right. That Justin said, right? No, what we're gonna do is we're just gonna play more baseball better than the other. That's not a plan. It's not a plan you want. Here's the catch, though. Baseball. You lose a baseball game. Hey, Herp. It's no big deal, folks. We're talking about a nuclear powered enemy. It doesn't mean their presence of nuclear weapons mean they should dominate. We have them, too. And we can do bad things to Russia as well. A lot of bad things. Cyber war and elsewhere. I'm simply suggesting that you are obligated if you say Trump's plan. Sucks to present some of your own. Here's what he was talking about, by the way.
Dan Bongino
AP Ukraine, Zelinsky says end of war with Russia is very, very far away.
Tommy Lahren
Okay? I mean, that's the best you have. Your economy is being hollowed out. You don't have anything else. Again, here's Donald Trump, President Trump again. He wants to see it end. He just doesn't want to see people dying anymore. I get it, like, all right, this is. But he has a plan. He's presented a plan.
Dan Bongino
No, he hasn't.
Tommy Lahren
Yes, he has. He has said we will develop economic rare earth mineral resources in areas of Ukraine. This will be likely an implied, if not direct security guarantee because of our economic interests. And you came in Friday and blew it up. What's your alternative again? I thought the left was the party of peace. Am I crazy? Those songs not happen. That we not all engage in sing alongs in the 60s and 70s. If you are of that age smoking the peace pipe on college campuses, what happened? You got a guy who wants peace, now you hate him.
Dan Bongino
Here, check this out.
Kaitlan Collins
With all of that being said, I want one thing to happen. I want all of those young people to stop being killed. They're being killed by the thousands every single week. Last week, 2,700 were killed. 2700 young. In this case, just about all young boys from Ukraine and from Russia. And that's not young people from the United States. But it's on a human basis. I want to see it stop. The money is one thing, but the death. And they're losing thousands of soldiers a week. And that's not including the people that get killed every time a town goes down or a missile goes into a town. And I want to see it stop.
Tommy Lahren
Here's the problem, too. Here's the problem with the people who reflexively jump down Trump's throat and have no consideration whatsoever for what he's saying he really cares about this, by the way. I'm not name dropping. Who cares who people know and don't. It sounds stupid and you sound ridiculous. I'm just saying I have a different relationship with President Trump than a lot of people in the media have never even met the guy and just automatically think he, you know, have all these nasty words to say about him. If you don't think this has deeply.
Dan Bongino
Impacted him, the carnage over in Ukraine.
Tommy Lahren
He keeps mentioning this, how a generation of young Ukrainians are going to be wiped out. And I'll tell you right now what's on his mind. I'll share something I know is a, is a is what is one of these things like a brain worm, when he can't get it out of his is, he understands fully that hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainians will be wiped out. And in the end. Listen, please listen. This is really important. Wait, stop. Everybody pause. You ready?
Dan Bongino
Listen to me.
Tommy Lahren
You want to get in Donald Trump's head and what's animating him? These young men and women will be killed. Dead. They will never take another breath of oxygen. They will never see their kids grow up. They will never invent the world's next supercomputer or cancer drug or anything. And you know what concerns Donald Trump even more than that? It'll all happen. And later on, after 10 years more.
Dan Bongino
Of war, not a single thing will have changed from today. I want you to think about what I just told you. You think Donald Trump is a shallow guy. He hasn't thought this through. He's just some guy that magically won the presidency multiple times and transformed an entire political party. You think he's just crazy.
Tommy Lahren
I want you to listen to what I just told you and you ask him in the media. I'm giving. Write this down.
Dan Bongino
I'm giving you a little hint. That is what motivates this man.
Tommy Lahren
He is deathly afraid that an entire generation of young, healthy fathers, sons, brothers, soccer coaches, police officers serving in their military are going to be dead, wiped out. And in 10 years, not a single damn thing will change. I'm just asking you if you hate this man, President Trump, I'm just asking you, you're allowed to hate him. It's a constitutional republic and you're allowed to say what you want. His plan sucks. But out of a sense of morality and decency, I'm asking you as a human being, what the hell is your plan? A full scale Ukrainian invasion into Russia. What if they're all wiped out and Ukraine loses its Entire eastern territory. What was this for, folks? The United States, the most powerful military on Earth. The most powerful military in the history of this rock we call Earth. There are times we have realized that sometimes the better part of valor is to say, at this point, this thing may be winnable, but at what cost? Nobody wins every single baseball game, basketball game, debating match, and no country on Earth is going to win every single skirmish they get involved in militarily. There are times both Democrat and Republican presidents have realized it is time to cut losses at this point. Because, yes, we can win it, but this is what it's going to take. And will it result in anything different than we are now? The examples, there are a lot of them. I wish there weren't, but they are. Stop pretending that it's somehow cowardice or anything else. That's not what this is. It is real politic, in a realistic view of the world we live in, not the world you want to live in, because that's the utopia fallacy that doesn't exist. And you have to understand, if you are a foreign negotiator, the eu, they love photo ops. They had the big class picture we put on the show yesterday. President Zelensky went right over to the eu. They all got together, took this great photo op. Fantastic. I get it. You have to message things. Public relations are a big deal. I fully understand that. However, public relations, not backed up by action, are simply. There it is right there. Thank you. Are just public relations. They're not going to change a damn thing. Germany, uk, France, you know, you want, you want to continue this war. For Zelensky, what it was the. A very long time. Go right ahead. There we go. For the end of the war is very, very far away. Go right ahead. Nobody's stopping you. The EU is a very powerful collective economy. There's a lot of money there. President Trump has given you a realistic exit ramp. Here he is talking about how Zelinsky needs to be more appreciative to resume negotiations. Notice how he has not taken the mineral minerals deal off the table despite Zelensky's catastrophic diplomatic miscalculation on Friday in the Oval Office. President Trump, who's supposed to be the crazy man, according to his opponents, still.
Dan Bongino
Is not taking the deal off the table.
Tommy Lahren
So how crazy is he? Or is everyone else crazy?
Dan Bongino
Check this out.
Tommy Lahren
What do you need to see from President Zelensky to restart these negotiations?
Kaitlan Collins
Well, I just think he should be more appreciative because this country has stuck with them through thick and thin. We've given them much more than Europe, and Europe should have given more than us because as you know, that's right there, that's the border. This, this country really was like the fence on the border. It was, it was very important to Europe. And I'm not knocking Europe, I'm saying that just they were a lot smarter than Joe Biden because Joe Biden didn't have a clue. He just gave money hand over fist. And they should have been able to equalize with us. In other words, if we gave a dollar, they should have given. Well, we gave 350 billion, they probably gave 100. But on top of it all, they get their money back because they doing it in the form of a loan and it's a secured loan. So when I saw that, which I've known about for a little while, I said, it's time for us to be smart.
Dan Bongino
Looking at the chat, sneaky. Gemini says Trump's the only adult in the room.
Tommy Lahren
Sneaky. You are correct. It certainly appears to be the case. Let me take a quick break, but just remember what I told you. If 10 years from now we're doing the Dan Bongino show, sitting here staring at a camera in here, the new studio, wherever we're doing it, and we're having this exact conversation, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians have been wiped out and Russia has more territory. I'm going to say. Justin, can you pull up that show from 10 years ago? I thought what we were the bloodthirsty.
Dan Bongino
Warmongers on the right, right? That's what you've talked about for years.
Tommy Lahren
No blood for oil and all that. I mean, I remember being a Secret Service agent, seeing all these code pinks on no blood for oil. We're giving you an opportunity for no more blood and you want more. I never seen anything like this. And by the way, the public is just not on your side on this play. Another CNN poll. You mean the one from yesterday? No, I mean a different one. They're just not on your side on this. They want this thing to end.
Dan Bongino
Quick break, we'll get back to the show. Hold on a sec. Hey, I'm just. Guys, I know. I don't. I know I don't do a lot of foreign policy on the show. I understand that. I gotta speak up. I just haven't dealt with the horror my grandmother dealt with, God rest her soul. Eileen Sadler, she really. Man, she lived a tough life. She lost two husbands early. She lost my uncle, her son, in Vietnam, when he was supposed to come home. Folks, that changed her man forever. I told you my uncle's name many times, Greg Ambrose. And when he was killed in Vietnam and shot in the back, my grandmother was never, ever, ever the same. Ever. This is real. People are dying. These Ukrainian men are children of God like anyone else. They. They may swear allegiance to a different country, but they are human beings. What is your plan, man? You owe it to these people. This isn't.
Tommy Lahren
This isn't a game of Stratego, whatever that game is.
Dan Bongino
This is real.
Tommy Lahren
There are going to be hundreds of.
Dan Bongino
Thousands of Eileen Sadlers out there who are never going to be the same because their kids and grandkids are going to have died. You better give us a damn plan because Trump has one.
Tommy Lahren
You do not.
Dan Bongino
All right, I take a break for a second here, so I hope you understand and I hope you guys don't mind me covering this story two days in a row. It is of grave importance that we highlight this in the most. All right, you get the point.
Tommy Lahren
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Tommy Lahren
So again, the public is not on your side when I say you I.
Dan Bongino
Should be specific because precision matters. Okay.
Tommy Lahren
If you are the anti Trump, reflexive Trump, Trump's Ukraine plan sucks. What's your plan? Ukraine needs to win. What does winning look like? Hell if I know. That's not a plan. It's a suggestion. It's the four way stop sign. A lot of people don't stop at the four way stop sign because they think the other guy will do it. That's what this is. It's a suggestion. You're like, I don't need to produce a plan. Someone else will. There are smart minds in D.C. i guess not, because these smart minds have yet to produce an actual freaking plan. Here's Harry Anton from CNN talking about how Trump is doing way better than President Biden. Former President Biden on the Ukraine issue. The public's not with you either. This is one of those situations where you are picking again the wrong hill to die on.
Dan Bongino
Check this out.
Brian Mast
I think the easiest way we can kind of just ask this is do Americans like the way that Trump's handling his job? And compare it to how they felt about Joe Biden. So this is the net approval rating. You look at Joe Biden back in 2024, he was 22 points underwater. Holy cow. You look at Donald Trump, it's just a different planet entirely. I mean, the gulf between these two is wider than the Gulf of America or Mexico. Depending on which side of the aisle you stand on. He's at plus two. So look at this particular point, Americans are giving Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt. He's doing considerably better than Joe Biden was doing on the handling of the Russia, Ukraine conflict. And so on this simple question, I think Americans are saying, okay, Donald Trump's doing all right on this.
Dan Bongino
Got a big announcement. There we go. Finally. I'm going to retweet it right here live on the air. Good. I'm going to watch that.
Tommy Lahren
Silver luck. Did you see it?
Dan Bongino
Some of you may have paused it. Can you do that? Yeah. You saw that. It was like that one time. Remember we had the thing and I had Trump called and we almost showed his, we almost showed his phone number on the air. I never did. I know that was, it was Michael's first week. That was, that was crazy. I'm going to finish this segment and I'm going to tell you what I'm talking about. Now you want to know who's going to be taking over my show? I'm really happy about this. We got Haley in studio. Haley's rocking the border patrol hat. I like that. She's coming and she's representing right away. She's like law and order at the border. By the way, did you watch your segment yesterday on Rumble?
Tommy Lahren
What is it?
Dan Bongino
Rumble.com Haley. That was great. I loved it.
Tommy Lahren
She came right out of the shoes.
Dan Bongino
She's just like I told you, Zeus, throwing lightning. Just like that.
Tommy Lahren
Just dropping lightning bolts like Marino throwing.
Dan Bongino
Pellets to Mark Duper for you Miami Dolphins fans. All right, here, wait, last segment on this. This is a serious topic.
Tommy Lahren
This is Jake Tapper and my Congressman Brian Mast. And why is this segment important to.
Dan Bongino
Me outside of just the content?
Tommy Lahren
Because Congressman Brian Mast, who's my congressman.
Dan Bongino
In Martin County, Florida, Congressman Brian Mast. I've mentioned his name before because there's something very distinct about Congressman Mass, and.
Tommy Lahren
It'S that he's missing limbs, notably his two legs. Why do you think that is? That's because Congressman Mass decided he was going to volunteer for military service, decided to become a bomb tech, obviously one of the most hazardous professions of any profession anywhere in the known cosmos.
Dan Bongino
While Congressman Mast was trying to disarm an explosive, it went off and he lost fingers. There he is right there. And you'll see he has prosthetic legs.
Tommy Lahren
So Congressman Mast has bona fides on this issue to discuss what President Zelensky refers to as the nice oceans protecting us.
Dan Bongino
He's kind of crossed those and he's left pieces of himself over There.
Tommy Lahren
So when Congressman Mass speaks, he speaks.
Dan Bongino
With instant skin in the game. Actual skin in the game. Here he is with Jake Tapper talking.
Tommy Lahren
About how the eu, which has skin in the game as well. They're right there. They're kind of de facto funding both sides of this war by constantly buying gas from Russia, which is fattening up their coffers, which is in turn funding Russia's war effort. So how serious are you guys? Let us know, because we're the ones trying to cut that off. Take a look.
Zelensky
It's so ironic. They're still reliant on Russian oil and gas, moving it throughout Europe or moving it to other places and bringing it back into Europe. So they're essentially putting as much money into supporting Russia and not putting as much money into actually defending Ukraine and then begging us to be the backstop for security. That comes to an end.
Tommy Lahren
Yeah, I actually saw a study from.
Kaitlan Collins
A European group that showed that Europeans were actually buying more Russian oil and gas than.
Tommy Lahren
Than they were helping Ukraine in terms of the aid.
Kaitlan Collins
So in some ways, the Europeans are. Are funding both sides in this war.
Dan Bongino
You know, Justin brought up a great point, too. I tell you, man, this guy is a very precocious leaving college young man.
Tommy Lahren
This guy, when I was 20, you know, at the time, I was working.
Dan Bongino
On my career and all that stuff, but I was heavily focused in law enforcement and all these other things.
Tommy Lahren
Justin is knee deep into politics, Dan. He's like, didn't Germany and others just.
Dan Bongino
Decommission a lot of their nuclear power plants, and therefore they have to rely more for baseload power on natural gas from Russia?
Tommy Lahren
Yeah, exactly. Climate, right? The climate change people, they're like, the climate change people are supposed to be the peace. Next they're like, continue the war. Continue. Fund the Russia decommission. A nuclear power. Can you guys just get a message? Can you just figure out what side you're on? I don't understand. I mean, can we just make this, like, kind of simple?
Dan Bongino
Oh, man. Haley, can you show them your border patrol hat? Come here. You want to see Haley's rocking the.
Tommy Lahren
Border patrol hat today?
Dan Bongino
Check it out.
Tommy Lahren
You like that?
Dan Bongino
There we go.
Tommy Lahren
There we see. She's all about secure the border, build the wall. There she is rocking a Border Patrol hat. Rumble.com Haley.
Dan Bongino
She's going to crush it. I already told you guys, we have.
Tommy Lahren
A one thing we do well here.
Dan Bongino
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Tommy Lahren
I'm like, damn, we got to go hire.
Dan Bongino
I Said Paula watches you say, you're absolutely right.
Tommy Lahren
I got another big announcement coming up. Why are we firing Announcements left and right. Rock em sock em robot style.
Dan Bongino
Because, folks, I have agreed to take this other position as of March 17th.
Tommy Lahren
I'm winding down my operation. But I'm not winding down an operation.
Dan Bongino
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Tommy Lahren
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Dan Bongino
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Tommy Lahren
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Dan Bongino
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Tommy Lahren
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Tommy Lahren
So here's a big announcement.
Dan Bongino
As you all know, you've probably heard it now a thousand times over the. Maybe more over the last few weeks. I will be leaving. My last show will be next week, March 14th. I will be taking over the deputy director position at the FBI. We brought on Haley. You met her yesterday. You're gonna be seeing a lot more of her in the coming days. We have evita's show@rumble.com evita and taking over my show for the podcast. He's going to have a significant role in radio, too. He's going to be my good friend from wmal. My friend, Vince Colonnaise. He is fantastic. I promise you, I only bring you the best people. You are going to love him. A very, very, very smart guy. Very intellectual show. I love Vince. He's been a good friend to me. You've heard him fill in on the radio show. I've gotten all your positive feedback. There is a method to my madness. I had always intended on bringing on Vince as a talent, regardless, before I even knew about this spot. Now that Paul is going to be running the business, we thought, well, let's just move a little quicker than we were in the past. So there you go, Vince Colonnaise. Give him a follow. Here's how you spell the last name. You know, with us Italians, see, it's Coglianisi.
Tommy Lahren
Okay, Pronounced colonnaise. But C, O, G, L, I, A.
Dan Bongino
N, E, S, E. And the show.
Tommy Lahren
Is going to be called.
Dan Bongino
I gotta say, by the way, this is my idea. I hope Vince was cool with it. The show is going to be called Vince. Why? What better way to brand it? Vince. Vince. It's kind of like Prince without the symbol. Remember? Where'd I get that one? It's his first name. You didn't Know, Haley, feel free to incorporate the guys in your show.
Tommy Lahren
By the way.
Dan Bongino
They, they kind of just chime in anyway. So they just do their own thing. There's no rules on the show. Even if there were, they disregard them anyway. If we had like treehouse rules, I know that's a huge mistake, folks, the new studio, we have mics and like cameras for the production guys. So now you're going to get to see these guys doing their whole drill during the show. You all down with that?
Tommy Lahren
So folks in the chat just.
Dan Bongino
I'm asking the Bongino army, go follow Vince. Represent. I told you I'd leave you with good stuff. So I promise you. All right, let's get back to some more of this stuff.
Tommy Lahren
So this happened yesterday too. I told you, listen to your friend Dan. Do not buy into the take Trump. Seriously.
Dan Bongino
But not literally.
Tommy Lahren
You damn well better take them literally sometimes. And does anybody in the chat hate the word literally more than me? No, I hate the word. Yeah, it's true.
Dan Bongino
I know. That is a good point.
Tommy Lahren
However, you the guy President Trump is not kidding when he's talking about the tariff thing. Tariffs take effect today. Here he was yesterday, he was announcing.
Dan Bongino
A hundred billion dollar chip investment.
Tommy Lahren
I'll tell you why this is important in relationship to the tariff story. These stories are related. I'll show you why and what the economic logic is.
Dan Bongino
I promise this is. I'm not going to make this boring for you. I know people that dismal. Science, economics, this will make sense.
Tommy Lahren
Play that cut.
Kaitlan Collins
Today, Taiwan Semiconductor is announcing that they will be investing in at least $100 billion in new capital in the United States over the next short period of time to build state of the art semiconductor manufacturing facilities. I think mostly it's going to be in Arizona, which is what I understand, which is a great, A great state. I like it because I want it. But I won most of them, actually. But I did. We won it and we wanted big. The most powerful AI chips in the world will be made right here in America and it'll be a big percentage of the chips made by his company. But as you know, they're based mostly in Taiwan.
Tommy Lahren
I. Whoops.
Dan Bongino
I thought, I thought this guy was crazy.
Tommy Lahren
If he's crazy, why are all these people investing? It's right if he's not. So just to be clear, Haley and.
Dan Bongino
I are both Long island kind of Queens kids, right?
Tommy Lahren
Say you've got this.
Dan Bongino
This guy in your neighborhood. We had this kid growing up. I won't use his real name, but.
Tommy Lahren
Let'S call him Tony.
Dan Bongino
This kid was legit crazy, right? He was like, if you walk near his house, you cross the street because.
Tommy Lahren
You were afraid he'd come out the door. I'm not kidding. I lived on 64th place. Everybody who lived in the neighborhood knew to stay away from this guy. No one's going to go in there and ask him to start a business like, hey, you want to start a corner deli with me? Because he's crazy, right? He was just a dangerous kid, right? So if Donald Trump is so crazy, why is this like the 4th or 5th multi billion dollar 100 billion plus deal where people are moving money back into the United States? I'm just, I'm just asking questions.
Dan Bongino
I told Haley to incorporate a few pregnant pauses.
Tommy Lahren
Just like that, you see? Why. Why are they bringing money here if he's crazy? Now, to show you how extra non crazy he actually is. Anybody out there know how GDP is calculated?
Dan Bongino
I'm not going to bore you with stupid math equations right now, but I will tell you this, okay. It's C plus G plus I plus X minus M. What does that mean.
Tommy Lahren
When you calculate gdp?
Dan Bongino
It's. It's a government spending, consumption, investment, exports minus imports and you get a GDP number. Okay?
Tommy Lahren
Now why is that a big deal?
Dan Bongino
Because investment, the eye in the matter and the exports minus imports. Exports happen when you. Sorry, but some people are, you know.
Tommy Lahren
Don'T like Trump, don't really understand this expensive exports mean. What exports mean. You export stuff, meaning it originates in the United States and you send it out of the United States. Exports are a positive for gdp. So for all those people who think Donald Trump is crazy and don't understand.
Dan Bongino
Basic economics, GDP numbers and how economies.
Tommy Lahren
Grow, Donald Trump gets a two for here. He gets investment in the United States and he gets additional exports. Now again, if you don't understand that what he's doing, you won't understand what his tariff approach is.
Dan Bongino
Either tariffs or taxes. I agree.
Tommy Lahren
I'm not going to tell you otherwise.
Dan Bongino
Tariffs are taxes.
Tommy Lahren
However, he has used the tariff as a negotiating tool to get people to move more of their operations back into the United States. Now here's the genius of the whole thing. If it works now, if it turns into an escalating tariff battle, you're right, that could turn into a problem. However, Donald Trump trust this guy's negotiating skills. The President knows what he's doing here. He's done this before. If he can get more money into the United States and in the GDP formula, get more exports and more Investment, right? And then he brings these companies into the United States to build new factories. More investment. Here's the kicker. He also gets another bang for the buck if the Republicans in the House.
Dan Bongino
And Senate can pass the tax cuts again.
Tommy Lahren
Because if we can get 100% or accelerated depreciation, that means that when you build these factories, you can also write it off your taxes, which means millions more available to pay your employees and to put into said factory. I love people who think this guy is nuts and just don't understand what he's. Trust me, he has a plan. You may not like it. No plan is perfect. It may work out, it may not. But we're going to find out. But I promise you, just like in Ukraine, he has a plan. What's your plan here he is talking.
Dan Bongino
About V6 guys, the 25% Canada, Mexico tariffs.
Tommy Lahren
Folks, we have not had fully open.
Dan Bongino
Free trade with Mexico and Canada for a long time. It is time to use these tariffs as a tool. Check this out.
Kaitlan Collins
But very importantly, tomorrow, tariffs. 25% on Canada and 25% on Mexico. And that'll start. So they're going to have to have a tariff. So what they have to do is build their car plants, frankly, and other things in the United States, in which case they have no tariffs. In other words, you build. And this is exactly what Mr. Wei is doing by building here. Otherwise they'll build, if they did them in Taiwan, to send them here, they'll have 25% or 30% or 50% or whatever the number may be. Someday it'll go only up. But by doing it here, he has no tariffs.
Tommy Lahren
Knock this guy all you'd like. It's a constitutional republic.
Dan Bongino
I actually believe in the First Amendment, unlike some others out there who don't seem to like me very much.
Tommy Lahren
I'm just telling you he has a plan. The way you get economic growth is by investment in the United States. He's going to get a double bang for the buck with exports. He's also planning on a depreciation schedule which matches up with said investment. So when companies are building here, they get a write off for building here, which will incentivize more building here, which will give companies more money to invest in their product and employees. What's your plan, brother? What I don't understand. What's your plan? Your plan is what? To continue talking about economic growth. It's like we said before, what's your plan? To win the baseball game? Justin said, right, we're just going to play more baseball. That's Not a plan, man. It's not a plan. It's not a plan. That's you writing some Emily Dickinson poetry or whatever. I'm not interested. I'm a spreadsheets guy. To show me the numbers. Let's go full Jerry Maguire even though.
Dan Bongino
It was a liberal movie. Watch that little speech at the end and you'll get it.
Tommy Lahren
You know what I'm talking about.
Dan Bongino
Some of you know, show me the money. Remember Cuba Gooding Jr. What was his name?
Tommy Lahren
Rod Tidwell? Show me.
Dan Bongino
Say it, Jerry. Show me the money.
Tommy Lahren
Donald Trump is saying, show me the money. Show me where you are going to.
Dan Bongino
Put money in American citizens wallets. If you can't, you don't have a.
Tommy Lahren
Seat at the table. Sorry.
Dan Bongino
Folks, the momentum is completely, totally shifting right now. Wasn't that the title of today's show?
Tommy Lahren
You see how I did that?
Dan Bongino
I did that actually by accident. I didn't even mean that. I let these guys write the titles. You know, kind of like they're good at it. They've been putting together a lot of the show. The momentum is totally shifting.
Tommy Lahren
But I can't tell you to produce receipts and spreadsheets and not flowery language and not produce it myself. Here's Scott Pressler who's done so much.
Dan Bongino
Work and organizing and getting people registered as Republicans.
Tommy Lahren
Folks, if Pennsylvania were to flip red.
Dan Bongino
Consistently, the electoral college pathway for the.
Tommy Lahren
Democrats to win the presidency is as dead as an iron nail. They have zero chance if you right now. Here's how it looks in the national picture. Keep that up on the screen for a minute.
Dan Bongino
So let me just read you a number.
Tommy Lahren
So Pressler put out. Republicans are 181, 984 voters away from flipping Pennsylvania. In 2012, that number was a million 100 plus thousand. In 2008 that number was a million 200 plus thousand. Now they're less than 200,000 voters away from flipping Pennsylvania. That this is Pennsylvania reminds me of what happened in Florida where when I moved down here, Democrats actually had a voting advantage. Obama won Florida and now Florida has become a blood red state. But here's the thing. You're seeing the same trajectory in Ohio. You're seeing now Nevada start to color itself red a little bit. And Pennsylvania is moving, folks. There is no pathway for them to win. If Pennsylvania flips fully into the Republican column. I can make the case to you that that's why you're seeing Senator Fetterman in Pennsylvania. You know, is it a genuine change where on some issues he started to move a Little more. Right.
Dan Bongino
I don't know.
Tommy Lahren
I can't get in his head again. I don't really care about is it genuine or not.
Dan Bongino
I care about the spreadsheets.
Tommy Lahren
All I care about is on how they vote. I don't get too involved with the emotions of it. But you're seeing this all start to change now. Here, here is the tweet I found.
Dan Bongino
The most compelling on this and I'm going to tell you why.
Tommy Lahren
Actually, I'm going to throw this out.
Dan Bongino
I'm going to ask you a question. Let's see when the chat can get it.
Tommy Lahren
Some of you may have seen it.
Dan Bongino
Because it was trending on Twitter kind of all day and people made the connection. Charlie Kirk, good friend to us in the show, Charlie Kirk, put this out. Is this Trump approved Trump's approval rating. President Trump's approval rating by age. So 65 plus, 65 years old plus Trump's approval rating is 45%. 40 years old to 64, 46%. So 1 percentage point higher. Here is the shocking statistic considering the.
Tommy Lahren
Prior trajectory of the Republican Party. 18 to 39 younger Americans.
Dan Bongino
Obviously, Donald Trump's approval rating is 15 points higher than an older American. 60%.
Tommy Lahren
I want you to listen to what.
Dan Bongino
I'm telling you here. Donald Trump's approval rating amongst the young demographic between 18 and 39 is 15 points higher than his approval rating among 65 plus Americans.
Tommy Lahren
You want?
Dan Bongino
Come on, Justin, Say come on.
Tommy Lahren
Come on. Now.
Dan Bongino
Fellas, ladies, for those who've been following politics for a long time, like when Haley used to book me at Hannity back in the day, like 10 years ago.
Tommy Lahren
So it was like, hey, what's up?
Dan Bongino
Remember you? She used to show me my little Q score thing. You whatever. Ratings on the charts.
Tommy Lahren
Big look you were on last night. You did so good.
Dan Bongino
I'm like, that must have been Heraldo. That must have been Heraldo.
Tommy Lahren
When I was doing hits back then, the Republican Party could not we older, older Americans. That was our, that was basically our base of support. We never had younger voters. They were all about Hopi Changi. They loved Obama. They didn't love what he did, but they love. Everything's great. The whole thing is flipped.
Dan Bongino
Now my question to the audience. Someone tweeted this out. Did you see it? What do those numbers correspond with when it comes to this? Let me see if someone in the chat comes gets it. What do those correspond with when it comes to media consumption amongst those three groups? Older, middle aged and younger Americans. Americans. Let's see if anybody gets It. Let me see. I'm just looking through. The chat goes so fast here because you guys are so many people here. Excellent. Who said that? Excellent show.
Tommy Lahren
Tanamere.
Dan Bongino
We love you. Thank you.
Tommy Lahren
Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Look what I have. John DiSalvo says social media.
Dan Bongino
Redhead advice.
Tommy Lahren
New media. Yes. Oh, VGO, 1998. Cable.
Dan Bongino
Yes. This is what happens when you get a genius audience.
Tommy Lahren
I'm not kidding.
Dan Bongino
It's not like me. They throw in faux compliments.
Tommy Lahren
Yeah. There's not a question I can ask you guys. If I asked you guys to figure out the Pythagorean theorem on a number in like, half a second, someone's got it in there.
Dan Bongino
And I think you guys know what you're talking about.
Tommy Lahren
You see how the older demo that's still watching. Oh, look at this.
Dan Bongino
Check this out. They even got some charts up here from Nielsen.
Tommy Lahren
The older demo that is still watching.
Dan Bongino
Traditional Cable News, the MSNBC, the CNNs and others. Trump's approval rating is fine, 45%. It's not terrible.
Tommy Lahren
But then you start getting into a.
Dan Bongino
Younger audience that has a la carte media consumption, 18 to 39.
Tommy Lahren
A la carte, meaning they can go anywhere and pick off the menu. Oh, look, I'm going to get a.
Dan Bongino
HALEY Video from TikTok. She's been viral like 10 times already.
Tommy Lahren
You know that dance party with Beyonce? That was her. She started that whole thing because she just felt like lighting up TikTok. Young people. Like, you know what? It's kind of cool to be MAGA now. Like, we're the anti establishment question authority party. You don't find it weird that younger people who aren't really watching cable news and broadcast news anymore, that these younger people are the ones who support President Trump. You guys are so smart in the chat. The longer you're married to legacy media.
Dan Bongino
The longer you're going to believe a lot of these nonsense narratives about President Trump. When you can go to X and truth and YouTube and rumble and TikTok.
Tommy Lahren
And other places and pick and choose your own media and filter through what.
Dan Bongino
Was what in the past. A wall between you and the truth, you notice people start becoming more MAGA and more Republican. It's not an accident. All right, Throw that Wall Street Journal article up. I know. That's exactly, exactly. That's a great point. That's why they want to censor all these.
Tommy Lahren
You know what?
Dan Bongino
Now let's put the Wall Street. Save that one for tomorrow. I want to put this Wall Street Journal piece up. Folks, this Wall Street Journal is Obviously not a huge fan of President Trump. Okay, I think we get that, especially Gerard Baker.
Tommy Lahren
But I enjoy their pieces and I.
Dan Bongino
Read them all the time. That's not it. Just read. That's a Chutkan said a new school. What's that? That's Jack Smith. You got a different one. Yeah, but look at the graphic you have up. It says district Judge Tanya Chutkin.
Tommy Lahren
Jerry Baker has a piece up.
Dan Bongino
Just when we need them, the media's credibility hits the bottom.
Tommy Lahren
It's a great piece.
Dan Bongino
I encourage you to read it. And he talks about here how journalism has become more of a religion rather than a fact based fact searching enterprise anymore.
Tommy Lahren
How it's an act of faith.
Dan Bongino
It's not really an act based in spreadsheets and reality anymore. And that's the problem.
Tommy Lahren
Folks. Thanks again for tuning in.
Dan Bongino
I'm really excited about the future of Silverlock Media as Paula takes over the enterprise and I transition into a different stage of my life. Got Haley here. We're gonna have Haley on the show now. Here's the schedule for the for the new studio because I need to show this to you tomorrow after this show here in the.
Tommy Lahren
This is tomorrow will be my last show.
Dan Bongino
So definitely tune in. Bongino army.
Tommy Lahren
My last show from here, not my last show.
Dan Bongino
Okay, from here we are going to retire the dan Bongino Show. 50 foot square foot studio. No no kitchen, refrigerator. Nothing for these poor guys tomorrow. But I do it'll. It'll hurt because I do love this place and we did a lot here. Tomorrow will be the last show from here. So Bongino Army P1s. Let's make it special. I am then going to go over to the new studio and we are going to show you the new studio Wednesday night. But all the shows will air at the regular time. Don't worry. I'm going to record some stuff so you guys can get a good look around the new studio. So the Thursday show at 11am Your regular time you're going to get to see the new studio. You've already got a peek at it with Haley and Evita. You have yet to see the dam Bongino set which my lovely wife put a lot of work. Hayley, you've seen it. Do you like so and Haley knows because I'm not cool. Haley's I'm not cool. My wife says I but I know I'm not. You can't try. It just is.
Tommy Lahren
I will see you on the radio show in a little bit here on.
Dan Bongino
Rumble in about six minutes or so. And then I will see you back here tomorrow. Our last day in the old school dan Bonjino Studio. 11am Eastern Time. Rumble.com Bongino See you guys there. See you tomorrow.
Tommy Lahren
You just heard the Dan Bongino Show.
Release Date: March 4, 2025
Host: Dan Bongino
Co-Host: Tommy Lahren
Network: Cumulus Podcast Network
In this episode of The Dan Bongino Show, hosts Dan Bongino and Tommy Lahren delve into the evolving dynamics surrounding the United States' involvement in the Ukraine conflict. They critique both liberal and Republican establishment approaches, emphasizing the need for a viable and actionable plan to resolve the ongoing geopolitical tensions.
Tommy Lahren initiates the discussion by highlighting the lack of a coherent strategy from both sides of the political spectrum regarding the Ukraine war. She references a recent Oval Office meeting that failed to produce meaningful outcomes, leading to widespread international repercussions.
Tommy Lahren [00:19]: "It's the peak of naivete and ignorance to suggest an alternative plan without suggesting an alternative plan."
Tommy Lahren [01:04]: "A lot of populists around the world are saying, well, what's your plan to rescue Ukraine?"
The co-host criticizes the ongoing funding without clear objectives, pointing out that continued financial support without a defined endgame results in prolonged conflict and unnecessary loss of life.
Dan Bongino and Tommy Lahren discuss former President Donald Trump's stance on the Ukraine conflict, emphasizing his demand for a mutually beneficial deal as opposed to endless support without results.
The hosts argue that Trump's approach is pragmatic and firm, contrasting it with what they perceive as the lack of strategy from his opponents.
They further elaborate on Trump's economic strategies, such as developing economic rare earth mineral resources in Ukraine, which they believe would create a security guarantee and incentivize peace.
The episode explores how different demographics perceive Trump's policies, especially in relation to media consumption habits.
The hosts assert that younger Americans, who consume media through platforms like TikTok and Rumble, are more supportive of Trump compared to older demographics reliant on traditional cable news.
This shift in media consumption is portrayed as a significant factor in the changing political landscape, contributing to Trump's sustained popularity among younger voters.
Towards the end of the episode, Dan Bongino shares significant news about the future of the show:
He announces the introduction of new hosts and the transition of the show’s responsibilities:
Additionally, they discuss sponsor messages related to emergency preparedness and mattress products, briefly touching upon personal anecdotes that tie into the show's themes of security and well-being.
In wrapping up, the hosts reiterate the critical need for actionable plans in foreign policy, particularly concerning Ukraine. They emphasize that mere statements without strategic implementation are insufficient and can lead to prolonged conflicts and loss of life.
Tommy Lahren [22:27]: "Thousands of Eileen Sadlers out there who are never going to be the same because their kids and grandkids are going to have died. You better give us a damn plan because Trump has one."
Dan Bongino [45:01]: "The momentum is completely, totally shifting right now."
The episode underscores a growing sentiment that both political parties must present clear, tangible strategies to address international conflicts effectively. The transition announced by Dan Bongino also signals a new chapter for the show, promising continued discussions on pressing political issues.
Tommy Lahren [00:19]: "It's the peak of naivete and ignorance to suggest an alternative plan without suggesting an alternative plan."
Tommy Lahren [01:04]: "A lot of populists around the world are saying, well, what's your plan to rescue Ukraine?"
Tommy Lahren [05:15]: "President Trump upped the ante. If you're not going to come to the table and do a mutually agreed upon deal where we win, you have the military support you need to continue this battle. If you're not going to do it, then we're out."
Tommy Lahren [18:42]: "US Suspends all military aid to Ukraine in wake of Trump Zelensky row."
Dan Bongino [47:18]: "Donald Trump's approval rating amongst the young demographic between 18 and 39 is 15 points higher than his approval rating among 65 plus Americans."
Tommy Lahren [50:38]: "They like that we're the anti-establishment, question authority party."
Dan Bongino [34:26]: "I will be leaving. My last show will be next week, March 14th. I will be taking over the deputy director position at the FBI."
Tommy Lahren [22:27]: "Thousands of Eileen Sadlers out there who are never going to be the same because their kids and grandkids are going to have died. You better give us a damn plan because Trump has one."
Dan Bongino [45:01]: "The momentum is completely, totally shifting right now."
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the pivotal discussions and shifts presented in Episode 2435 of The Dan Bongino Show, highlighting the urgent call for strategic foreign policy and the internal changes within the show’s hosting structure.