The Real Insider Threat (Ep. 2504)

Summary

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The Dan Bongino Show — "The Real Insider Threat" (Ep. 2504)

Date: April 28, 2026
Host: Dan Bongino
Podcast Theme: Exposes government overreach, defends constitutional freedoms, and connects dots omitted by the mainstream media with sharp commentary and fact-driven investigation.

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan Bongino tackles growing concerns about insider threats to America's institutions—not just from the political left and external actors, but also from disinformation and defeatist attitudes within the right. Bongino argues that skepticism and distrust, supercharged by foreign influence and left-wing groups, work to destabilize public faith in American democracy. The episode is structured around new legal developments (indictments and convictions) contradicting "doomer" narratives that nothing is happening, deep dives into the manipulation of public perception, and a warning about the internal and external forces driving confusion and division.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Debunking "Doomer" and Defeatist Narratives

• (00:02–02:20) Bongino opens by addressing skeptics ("doomers") who claim that government accountability efforts are going nowhere. He clarifies that legal processes take time due to judicial oversight and evidentiary requirements, rebuking the idea that lack of immediate action equals inaction.

  • Quote:
    “I can't just go out and arrest you because I have the feels … I need reasonable suspicion to frisk you. To arrest you, I need probable cause. To convict you? I need beyond a reasonable doubt.”
    — Dan Bongino, 00:57

• (04:39–05:19) Celebrates recent major developments, such as the unsealing of 22 court-approved search warrants in Minneapolis related to fraud and ongoing COVID weaponization investigations—contradicting claims of inaction by federal authorities.

  • Quote:
    “You were told nothing was happening on the whole Covid thing and the weaponization of government … This what? Matter of fact, Justin doesn’t do a lot of commentary. Pre-show Justin was like, ‘Wow, that’s news.’”
    — Dan Bongino, 06:47

2. The Real Insider Threat: External and Internal Destabilization

• (08:21–11:11) Bongino expands on the concept of a coordinated campaign—funded by foreign actors and augmented by left-wing NGOs—to infiltrate the "right-wing ecosystem" and spread distrust and division.

  • Uses "Venom" (Marvel's symbiote) as an analogy for how toxic misinformation and foreign funds infect American discourse.
  • Quote:
    “There is this deadly symbiote … These liberal non-governmental organizations, many of them up to no good, paying a lot of money to basically fertilize violence and hatred.”
    — Dan Bongino, 09:32

• (11:56–13:07) Plays a clip of Southern District of New York U.S. Attorney Jay Clayton outlining how NGOs and foreign actors create hate and division by manipulating narratives:

  • Quote:
    “Organizations … creating hate in order to expand their mission of combating hate … It’s going on in America, through organizations like that. It’s also going on with foreign actors funding these types of organizations because they want us to fight with each other.”
    — Jay Clayton, 11:56

3. Dangers of Division and the Spread of Violence

• (14:45–17:30) Discusses recent politically-motivated violence and assassination attempts, linking perpetrators’ motivation to divisive narratives injected by outside agitators and amplified by internal defeatism.

• (16:34–18:18) Notes the refusal of opposition leaders to apologize for inflamed rhetoric, zeroing in on Democratic leadership (mentioning Hakeem Jeffries and Raj Krishnamoorthy) as perpetuating division rather than pursuing civility.

  • Quote:
    “I’m just asking you to stop shooting the president. That’s it. It’s not hard. They are not in any way retreating from this position. You cannot shame shameless people. They don’t care.”
    — Dan Bongino, 17:31

4. Media, Diffused Responsibility, and Manipulated Narratives

• (23:06–25:17) Highlights how mainstream media figures (e.g., Anna Navarro of The View, Hailey Caradilla) diffuse responsibility for violence and rationalize left-wing agitprop by introducing "confounding variables" instead of acknowledging core causal factors.

• (25:46–28:23) Explains 'confounding variables' theory from a law enforcement perspective, criticizing the practice of complicating direct causal analysis in order to avoid uncomfortable truths.

5. Foreign Disinformation and Psychological Warfare

• (29:07–31:07) Cites Soviet defector Yuri Besmanov's warnings about demoralization-as-strategy, connecting them to the current climate where "informational chaos" and distrust are purposefully manufactured.
  • Quote:
    “What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that … no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country.”
    — Yuri Besmanov, 29:56

6. Intra-Right Division, Leadership Critique, and 'The Two FBIs'

• (44:41–55:22) Responds to personal and professional criticism—especially from former FBI leadership—on his qualifications and time as Deputy Director. Bongino details his reforms and contrasts "FBI #1" (good, mission-focused agents) with "FBI #2" (bureaucratic, politically motivated actors resistant to change).

  • Quote:
    “There were two FBI. There was the FBI of like, bust your ass … and then you had this other FBI which … was populated with, to say, unfortunately, snakes.”
    — Dan Bongino, 50:09

• Cites concrete crime and prosecution stats as evidence of improved outcomes and leadership, ending with a warning against internal grifters and "doomer" influencers.

7. Failure of DC Political Class & The Need for Principle

• (56:26–64:27) Plays a Ben Sasse interview highlighting the danger of career politicians who are defined by their titles, urging purpose-driven rather than power-driven public service.
  • Quote:
    “The best thing you can do is be called dad, or mom, lover, neighbor, friend … It should be your 11th calling or maybe sixth. But never top. Never define yourself by a title and don’t fall in love with power.”
    — Ben Sasse (via Bongino), 59:20

8. Media Hypocrisy, Political Morons, and the Danger of Stupidity in Power

• (64:29–71:37) Bongino goes on a satirical tour of incompetence and hypocrisy among Democrats:

  • Elizabeth Warren defends a candidate with a Nazi tattoo.

  • Ilhan Omar confuses "World War II" with "World War 11."

  • Rep. Rosa DeLauro’s ignorance about major Supreme Court decisions affecting the EPA.

  • Quote:
    “These are not serious people at all. Ilhan Omar, World War 11. How the hell do you not read that?”
    — Dan Bongino, 73:11

9. Closing Message: Seek Opportunity, Don’t Chase Trains (on Luck)

• (73:39–76:31) Ends with a parable from Dr. Richard Wiseman’s research on luck: “Lucky” people are simply attentive to more opportunities—not inherently luckier. The moral: be open, proactive, and skeptical of those who seek to divide.
  • Quote:
    “People who are lucky are open to possibilities. They’re focused, but they’re relaxed. They’re going through life and they’re noticing things.”
    — Dr. Richard Wiseman, 76:08

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On skepticism and policing:
  “Don’t ever over explain yourself. The good folks out there who understand people are working really hard to clean up our government. They don’t need to hear it a thousand times. And the Doomers don’t give a shit either.”
  — Dan Bongino, 06:26

• On foreign influence:
  “There is a symbiote out there too … Specific foreign governments with a lot of money who are floating money into the confusion ecosystem to create a sense of confusion.”
  — Dan Bongino, 09:30

• On the left and violence:
  “There is one side … trying to shoot and kill the president and anyone else around him … and then there's us on this side calling out political violence every single place we see it.”
  — Dan Bongino, 16:15

• On leadership and accountability:
  “You should never define yourself by a title and don’t fall in love with power.”
  — Ben Sasse (via Bongino), 59:20

• On “luck” as mindset:
  “Collect opportunities, but don’t ever chase trains.”
  — Dan Bongino, 74:05

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:02–02:20: Setting expectations, rebutting defeatism, overview of government accountability
• 04:39–05:59: DOJ/FBI raids and fraud prosecutions—real-world progress
• 07:09–09:32: COVID-related indictments and dismantling “nothing’s happening” narrative
• 09:32–11:11: The insider threat: external and internal destabilizers
• 11:56–13:07: Jay Clayton on foreign-funded hate and division (Clip)
• 14:45–18:01: Political violence, left vs. right, failed appeals for civility
• 23:06–25:17: Media diffusion of responsibility; excuses for violence (Navarro, The View)
• 29:07–31:07: The Yuri Besmanov theory—foreign psychological warfare (Clip)
• 44:41–55:22: Bongino versus ex-FBI leadership, stats on crime, two FBI model
• 64:29–73:11: Parade of political incompetence (Warren, Omar, DeLauro)
• 73:39–76:31: The “luck” segment: openness, optimism, collecting opportunities

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Tone & Style

• Candid, combative, exasperated: Bongino’s tone is direct, urgent, and unapologetic, often laced with sarcasm and personal asides.
• Pop culture references: Analogies to Marvel’s Venom, movies, and social media memes keep the show accessible.
• Frequent self-attribution, defense: Responds directly to critics and takes pride in personal and team achievements.
• Calls to action: Urges listeners to scrutinize sources, demand accountability, avoid defeatism, and stay open to opportunity.

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Summary in a Sentence

Dan Bongino delivers a no-holds-barred takedown of those stoking defeatism and distrust on both sides, exposes the multifront insider threat from foreign actors and incompetent leadership, and urges listeners to stay vigilant, skeptical, and optimistic in the fight for America’s constitutional soul.

Transcript

[Dan Bongino]

All America, all the time. Sit down, buckle up and get ready for the Dan Bongino show. Okay. So by far the most difficult job I had over the past year was managing expectations and trying to tell people who are understandably, you hear me, understandably upset with the weaponization of government and where we wound up pre Donald Trump swearing in for 47 was trying to explain to people that the process is happening. It's just slow. Not slow because people are lazy or don't want to do anything, but because the justice system revolves around, I think the easiest way to say it is the permission of many others, judges, you know, subpoenas from United States attorneys. You can't just go out there and do stuff. I can't just as a federal agent. And this is a good thing, right? I can't just go out and arrest you because I have the feels and I feel like and I got to, I have to prove it in order to frisk you. I need reasonable suspicion to arrest you. I need probable cause to convict you. I need beyond a reasonable doubt in a civil case, preponderance of evidence.

[Justin]

You need to meet those hurdles and

[Dan Bongino]

that that's a good thing. I say that because the again, I don't understand how it's still tenable to be one of these doomers and pillars as all the stuff we told you was going to happen is now happening.

[Justin]

It was really difficult for me to

[Dan Bongino]

keep my mouth shut. But when stuff becomes public, we can talk about it like anyone else. I'm going to get to all of that because the opening of the show, I had to change it because a couple of things that have been worked on for a while that you were told aren't happening just happened.

[Justin]

Will you get any apologies from the Doomers? No, of course not. They're doomers. They're sitting home like that crazy reporter watching like tentacle porn and Ren and Stimpy episodes. They don't actually have anything to do. They just want to complain. So they're just going to move on

[Dan Bongino]

to the next thing to complain about

[Justin]

and then when that happens, they'll move

[Dan Bongino]

on to the next thing. I'll show you what I mean coming

[Justin]

up in a minute.

[Dan Bongino]

Also, there was a very, very important interview yesterday that happened on CNBC with the Southern District in New York, United States Attorney, something I've been telling you about for a long time. It involves the real insider threat. So I got to the beginning of today's show is going to be a lot. So just get ready for the ride. Let's get right to it. Hey, many Americans try weight loss shots, but. But some of them don't want to take the injections. They don't like the potential side effects.

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[Justin]

opening to the show

[Dan Bongino]

because the doomers again are sitting there with egg on their face, clawing, scraping, crying, crapping their diapers, telling you. And everything's happened. So this happened on Fox News this morning. Remember the fraud out in Minnesota? A lot of it exposed by independent journalist Nick Shirley. Well, you know what? Let's do it in this area. Let's do it the right order. I don't mess it up. This just happened a few minutes before we came off the air. Looks like 22 separate locations were hit. Here's a FOX News report from just a few minutes ago. Check this out. DOJ confirms to Fox News that FBI

[Justin]

and HSI agents are currently serving 22 court approved search warrants in the Minneapolis area this morning in relation to federal fraud investigations. One of those locations is the infamous Quality Learning center which you see here.

[Dan Bongino]

Very good, very good. I like that.

[Justin]

Now of course the Doomers, even when you post that, were still upset, were they not just.

[Dan Bongino]

Well, glad you guys got on that after all that work was done. Actually we've been working on it the entire time I was there. No you haven't. Oh well actually we have. You can actually look yourself. 3-20-2026 A case that been going on for a long time. Five more plead guilty in defeating our futures fraud scheme out there in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Prosecutors have now obtained 63 convictions. Scheme? Why do you think that happened overnight? Listen folks, I get it. Don't ever over explain yourself. The good folks out there who understand people are working really hard to clean up our government.

[Justin]

They don't need to hear it a thousand times. And the Doomers don't give a shit either. The Doomers are just going to find something else to doom and gloom about. So it doesn't matter. But however, this is a politics and news show and this is news. So although I'm vested in it because

[Dan Bongino]

I was personally involved in a lot

[Justin]

of this, I also feel the need to cover the freaking news.

[Dan Bongino]

Of course another one happened this morning. You were told nothing was happening on the whole Covid thing and the weaponization of government.

[Justin]

Nothing was happening there either. You remember that one Justin, you were

[Dan Bongino]

told correct, nothing was happening there. Nothing was happening on left wing groups. Nothing was happening on Antifa. Despite multiple convictions, arrest, the splc, blm,

[Justin]

all, nothing's ever happening.

[Dan Bongino]

So this just happened this morning on the COVID stuff. This what?

[Justin]

Matter of fact, Justin doesn't do a lot of commentary.

[Dan Bongino]

Pre show Justin was like wow, that's news. This happened this morning. New York Post Anthony Foushee Adviser INDICTED

[Justin]

by DOJ that's not possible. Nothing is happening folks. Nothing is happening. Nothing. You starting to wonder to yourself like

[Dan Bongino]

if these Doomers are pillars and their liberal media friends. But liberal media friends complain about what's happening. That's the difference. They both want the destruction of the MAGA movement. They come from it from different directions.

[Justin]

The liberal media complains about all the stuff that's happening.

[Dan Bongino]

I just saw one of these dipshits yesterday. This guy used to be friends with total moron. I think he's a lawyer Some he's got a show. He's just a total tool. I saw him last night when I was talking about the two FBI as a clip I'll play later on. Hannity responds well, what happened to the other one? Gee, I don't know.

[Justin]

You could have actually listened to the

[Dan Bongino]

special today and found out where we noted that roughly 10% of the workforce had separ. Multiple people were fired for weaponization.

[Justin]

You could have listened to that. But you don't. You just want to be a dumb ass doomer because you wanted to destroy

[Dan Bongino]

the movement from inside the tent. Now we've had accountability on Antifa, the splc, blm. We had that huge arrest for the Benghazi tragedy. We had Bakush. Everybody's innocent though proven guilty. We now have this Covid case. We with some indictments. Listen, it's incredibly important you understand incredibly important you understand that this is not a genuine authentic movement. The Doomers and the pillars. There is a ton of money floating into the air quotes right wing ecosystem to create an insider threat from inside the tent. I want you to watch this because there is this deadly symbiote like you guys read comics? Eddie Brock, Venom. You have any Venom from the Spider Man? This, this, this microbial thing infects Eddie Brock, becomes his special suit, becomes Venom. Right. They work together to do really bad things.

[Justin]

There's a symbiote out there too.

[Dan Bongino]

It's just not a Spider man comics. Nothing to do with Marvel. The symbiote are foreign actors who hate the United States. Specific foreign governments with a lot of

[Justin]

money who are floating money into the

[Dan Bongino]

confusion ecosystem to create a sense of

[Justin]

confusion so that everybody can't trust anybody and the whole system collapses.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm going to play a bezel clip in a minute. I'll show you what I mean.

[Justin]

This is intentional and it's happening. This foreign money is very real.

[Dan Bongino]

When you combine that with left wing groups and you see the allegations against the splc, you see what's been going on with Antifa, you've got a really

[Justin]

dangerous witch's brew that is the real inside threat. These liberal non governmental organizations, many of

[Dan Bongino]

them up to no good, paying a lot of money to basically fertilize violence and hatred.

[Justin]

And then you combine it with geometrically more foreign money coming into our own tent to foster division. And it's amazing we even survived this

[Dan Bongino]

stuff given how much agit prop you're being subjected to every day.

[Justin]

Why am I so outspoken about these ops? Because I've seen things and I've Seen the damage being done by this and I see what's happening. It's real. These people who are to be careful who you trust. These people telling you, oh, trust me,

[Dan Bongino]

I'm just asking questions.

[Justin]

Are not asking questions. They're not asking questions at all. They're being paid to Foster Division. How do I know they're not asking questions? Because when you give them the answer, they just move on to something else.

[Dan Bongino]

I want you to watch this. This is a clip on cnbc. This is the Southern District in New York. United States Attorney. United States Attorney is the lead prosecutor for the Department of Justice in districts around the country. This is the big boss. You may have heard of him, Jay Clayton, pretty good guy. Here he is in a hit media appearance on CNBC and he's talking about these prosecutions and he mentioned something at the end of this I want you to pay very close attention to in case you think I'm just making all this up and you think that these people, not you all out there, you watch my show, so work pretty good. This is like the Compass True north show. But you watch these other shows, people just asking questions in case you think this is real. It's not real. Most of it's just BS being financed. Here, check this out.

[Jay Clayton]

Tie this to a recent event. I mean, this was horrible. Amplifying somebody like this is message, you know, just stupid. Let's just call it what it is. Stupid. Okay? We had a case in the Justice Department last week, the Southern Poverty Law center. At bottom, and these are allegations. But at bottom, the allegations are that this organization was creating hate in order to expand their mission of combating hate. If that's going on, and it is, it's going on in America. It's going on through organizations like that. It's also going on with foreign actors funding these types of organizations because they want us to fight with each other. So everybody needs to take a step back and say who is causing me to have these emotions? And are we creating an environment where those emotions are causing us to do things that are harmful to the American public?

[Dan Bongino]

So, Justin, just to be clear, the doomers and the pillars and the bullshitters, Donald Trump, President Trump appointed me, Cash, Jay Clayton and others. We're all just lying to you about this. It's weird how everybody's saying the same thing and we're all just lying to you for some unknown reason. We definitely all want in the government because of the big money. I got very rich in the government. You know, that was huge. Checks were amazing. I hope you sense the dripping sarcasm there. What motive would I possibly have to come out and bullshit you that there is a lot of foreign money and influence being pushed and shoved down your

[Justin]

freaking throat like syrup of ipecac to confuse you, to get you to not trust anyone.

[Dan Bongino]

The President, the Vice President, Rubio, Hegseth,

[Justin]

Patel, me, anyone else. This is all bullshit. Every single thing they told you wasn't happening has been happening and evolving quite quickly over the last few weeks as years of work, years notice.

[Dan Bongino]

Years, I said, with an S. Because some of this stuff, to be fair, didn't even start under us, we just finished it.

[Justin]

Years of this work is going on right now. Why are they doing this? Because, folks, foreign actors combined with left wing agit prop groups have the same goal. How do you collapse the constitutional republic

[Dan Bongino]

from the inside because we can't beat it from the outside.

[Justin]

It's the same goal. It's no different. Everybody telling you this stuff, that when they tell you these crazy lunatic things and they make up these bizarre conspiracy

[Dan Bongino]

theoretical bullshit out there.

[Justin]

I'm really stunned at how many people fall for this stuff without a shred of evidence. Folks, there's a penalty for it. The penalty for it is what I showed you yesterday on the show. How two people who tried to either kill, assassinate or do significant damage to Donald Trump and his property, that is the guy who tried to attack Ma A Lago a few months ago with

[Dan Bongino]

the gas cans, who was killed and then this, the suspect in this recent

[Justin]

assassination attempt this weekend. They're citing the very same narratives a lot of these foreign actors are injecting into a mainlining, into the, you know, American circulatory system. Man. I'm sorry if you're falling for this and you're promoting this stuff. I'm really, I am, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you did not learn better, you know, skills for discriminating bullshit from reality. It's not going to serve you well

[Dan Bongino]

the rest of your life.

[Justin]

And listen again, these people committing this violence, there are no, there is no two sides argument here, folks. There is one side, as I said on Hannity show last night, there is one side trying to shoot and kill the president and anyone else around him. Look up that, what is it, the

[Dan Bongino]

California case where the guy showed up to the studio with my name and others on there.

[Justin]

We've been part of this too. There are people trying to kill us and then there's us on this side calling out political violence every single place we see it. And it happens to be mostly Overwhelming majority. But on the left, there's not a both sides argument.

[Dan Bongino]

I heard Paul Morrow from Fox, good,

[Justin]

good friend, say yesterday, I only see the bullets going one way. Me, too, Paul. And in case you think you're going to get any apologies from these people, I'm warning you, the left is. They're done. They're done. They have forfeited any attachment to morality, ethics, human dignity. They're done. They don't care. Hakeem Jeffries, who I called out last night on Fox, is doubling down. We don't need to be civil. We're not asking you for civility. I'm not asking you to shake my

[Dan Bongino]

hand, give me a pat on the

[Justin]

back, give me a dab, write respectfully submitted at the end of your emails. I'm just asking you to stop shooting the president. That's it. It's not hard. They are not in any way retreating from this position. You cannot shame shameless people. They don't care. Watch this video.

[Dan Bongino]

This is Democrat Congressman Raj Krishnamoorthy here.

[Justin]

He is not only not apologizing for

[Dan Bongino]

any of this stuff, this leftist rhetor here he is.

[Justin]

I just think there's this illusion out there that eventually the left will turn

[Dan Bongino]

around and come around.

[Justin]

They will not. They're not interested. We are in a really dangerous place here. He is blaming Donald Trump for being a victim of a potential assassination.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out. Tremendous, as you can understand, concern given the threat levels that are going up in part because of the president and now three assassination attempts on him, his very low approval ratings, which unfortunately fuel a lot of disaffection.

[Justin]

It's not just him. You may be saying to yourself, wow,

[Dan Bongino]

that's one example of, you know, one totally disconnected from reality. Congressman, on the Democrats side.

[Justin]

No, it's not. I just told you. Hakeem Jeffries, the minority leader in the House, he did the same thing yesterday. We're not going to be lectured on civility. No one's lecturing you on civility. Sometimes in the show I use curse words and can get emotional about something I'm not telling you. We got to, you know, sit around and drink tea and eat crumpets together, roast s' mores around the campfire while singing gospel music. I would love that to happen. It's not going to happen. We're just asking you to stop promoting agit. Prop.

[Dan Bongino]

False narratives. A lot funded by foreign actors.

[Justin]

Some of this funded by left wing groups that are leading to the President, United States being shot at and shot, being shot at and shot multiple times. People have already died, folks. Don't fall for the BS line. Oh, someone's going to die with this. Corey comparator is already dead. People have already died because of left wing lunacy. The no Kings thing is another one. In addition to all the other Nazi type rhetoric, fascist rhetoric about Donald Trump, here's Donald Trump that the king, if

[Dan Bongino]

you believe, the malevolent king, if you

[Justin]

believe bullshit left wing garbage who just does an interview after an attempted assassination, again does an interview with 61 Minutes with Norah O', Donnell, is a quick one, but he's just like, king. If I was a king, what the hell am I doing here with you?

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out.

[Rosa DeLauro]

Attended a no Kings protest in California. What did security tell you about the

[Justin]

reason you have people like that is

[Dan Bongino]

you have people doing no Kings.

[Justin]

I'm not a king.

[Dan Bongino]

What I am, if I was a king, I wouldn't be dealing with you.

[Justin]

He's on 60 Minutes, folks. It wasn't like Breitbart. It wasn't Biz, PAC review or some conservative outlet. It's 60 Minutes. If this guy's a king, why is he going on an outlet that hates his guts to try to make the

[Dan Bongino]

case that we got to kind of

[Justin]

dial this stuff down because he's a king? Does that even make sense to you? It goes back to my larger point.

[Dan Bongino]

This isn't just complaining about it.

[Justin]

I'm trying to tell you there's very

[Dan Bongino]

little chance right now that you are going to talk the left into toning down the violence.

[Justin]

I'm not telling you that we shouldn't expose it because remember the Dam Bongino principle, debating with the left. You're not going to convince the radical

[Dan Bongino]

leftist he's not insane.

[Justin]

You're not.

[Dan Bongino]

They're in the padded room already.

[Justin]

However, there's another person listening.

[Dan Bongino]

There's always a third person listening.

[Justin]

And this country is populated by 330 million people, the overwhelming majority who are good, sane, decent people.

[Dan Bongino]

I promise they are the ones you're trying to convince.

[Justin]

You are not going to convince Hakeem

[Dan Bongino]

Jeffries, Raj Krishnamoorthy, Ro Khanna, the biggest fraud up there.

[Justin]

You're not going to convince the view or 61 minutes or anyone to tone it down, the hatred.

[Dan Bongino]

I had a friend in the Secret Service told me one time, he said, dan, you know, don't let the evil in. In other words, like he was talking about, don't tell the guys. Like, don't be lazy on these trips. You gotta work, you gotta work, you gotta work.

[Justin]

Once you let the Evil in.

[Dan Bongino]

That's it.

[Justin]

The evil is in. It's permeated the leftist soul. It's spread in the circulatory system. It's infected their DNA. You can only hope to stop the

[Dan Bongino]

third person from falling in the same trap.

[Justin]

It is clear as day that the man, the suspect in this case at the Hilton attempted assassination based on his own manifesto has been motivated by things

[Dan Bongino]

like that Donald Trump's a pedophile thing.

[Justin]

These are all bullshit narratives. It's clear as day if you read this manifesto and you read other manifestos

[Dan Bongino]

from people who tried to attack Donald Trump and engaged in school shootings and

[Justin]

elsewhere, it's clear they will never acknowledge this. What they will do.

[Dan Bongino]

I'm going to play this clip from Anna Navarro in the View because I

[Justin]

want to show you what they do here.

[Dan Bongino]

This is the fallacy of diffuse responsibility. Remember this, this idea that individuals are not responsible for their own behavior. The system did it. The man did it.

[Justin]

Whenever you hear systemic discrimination, oh, the man. The corporations and they don't talk about individual responsibility. They're doing it because they're rationalizing their own need for violence and bloodshed. They know in that they know by instinct it's wrong, but they want to believe it's right. So they diffuse the responsibility to everyone else. The system, the man, social murder. Another thing they'll do, they will ignore

[Dan Bongino]

the variable here that matters. You ever see, you ever do experimental work in sciences, you have the independent variable variable, the dependent variable. Then you have confounding variables, in other words, variables that are not involved in the experimental effect. It's not a science class.

[Justin]

However, if you're trying to study if

[Dan Bongino]

cold weather causes head colds, you want

[Justin]

to make sure that you isolate out other variables.

[Dan Bongino]

I think a better way to say

[Justin]

it, say you got a treatment for a cold. You want to make sure you isolate.

[Dan Bongino]

You don't want to give one person

[Justin]

a treatment in 90 degrees and one

[Dan Bongino]

person, the treatment, 30 degrees, because then it's a confounding variable. Like, well, what did it? Was it the medicine or was it the temperature change? That's a better way to describe it.

[Justin]

You've got to control confounding variables.

[Dan Bongino]

Watch Adam Navarro here.

[Justin]

Blame every single thing but the actual variable here, which is left wing agit prop.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out. You know, now, now that.

[Hailey Caradilla]

So that room was full of some of the most important political leaders in the country. Right now, right now, they know they've lived it in their own flesh. The fear that our school children go through now they know what it's like to have to jump under a table the way that school children jump under a desk. And we are a country that is vulnerable to this. We have now seen shootings in malls, in churches, in temples and Walmart. We side with the Republicans.

[Justin]

Do you see what she's doing here? This is super important.

[Dan Bongino]

That clip.

[Justin]

I play it again, but you can rewind it.

[Dan Bongino]

Video on demand.

[Justin]

You got to listen to what she does again. This is the mark of the imbecile. I'm serious. What smart people do like you is you take a pool of data and

[Dan Bongino]

variables out there in the world. The weather, your emotional state, did you sleep last night? Crime conditions.

[Justin]

You take a bunch of variables, right? And you distill it down to the one variable that made a difference. You get a bunch of information about

[Dan Bongino]

a bank robbery that happened at 4 o' clock yesterday in Martin County, Florida. What do you do? You do say some kind of.

[Justin]

Say you do a geofence war and you have 100 people in there. You distill it down to the one person who's most likely. You look their social media history. You look at all this other stuff.

[Dan Bongino]

Guys talking about robbing a bank a

[Justin]

month ago, maybe that's your guy. You get rid of all the unnecessary information, process the necessary information. You come to an answer. What the moron does is the opposite. They have an answer. Left wing violence. You read the manifesto on this case, other cases, you've seen them cite left wing agit, prop, non, no kings, Trump's a pedophile, all this stuff. And what do they do? They go the other way. They start introducing variable upon variable that has nothing to do with the problem. It's a way to diffuse responsibility away from them. Don't ever forget that. The imbecile does the opposite. They introduce confounding variables that have nothing to do with the answer. That's what Navarro is doing here. What was the confounding variable she threw in there? Oh, it's definitely gun control.

[Dan Bongino]

We got to work on this gun control thing.

[Hailey Caradilla]

Really,

[Dan Bongino]

Justin, is D.C. known for its constitutional carry status? You know Josh. No, he's saying I'm.

[Justin]

It's stunning.

[Dan Bongino]

I didn't know I was in D.C. i thought they were a constitution. Of course, I'd again be.

[Justin]

You're telling me. So Washington D.C. doesn't have some strict quote, gun control?

[Dan Bongino]

There's no such thing as gun control. It's gun confiscation crap.

[Justin]

Even the variable she cites doesn't make any sense. You See what they do. This is the mark of the moron. Introduce confounding variables in an effort to never get the answer. Because we already have the answer. Left wing agit prop, violent political talk. We already have the answer. You see this in podcast stand to

[Dan Bongino]

Joey bag of donuts engaged in this violent act. We've got this piece of evidence. That piece. Evidence, I don't know.

[Justin]

It was a plane that landed six weeks ago. Who the cares what. That has nothing to do with this. That is the mark of the imbecile. It is a confounding variable. Has nothing to do with the answer.

[Dan Bongino]

There it is. It's even shaped like a microphone. Podcast then.

[Justin]

I did not make that up, by the way.

[Dan Bongino]

I just want to be clear. I don't know who did. Whoever. It's a great line, but Justin did make up the island. That podcast is dead. It's even shaped like a microphone. I'm going to show you this clip and I'm going to take a quick break here. But this is important because it's now we're going to kind of circle back to the beginning of the show.

[Justin]

Why are foreign

[Dan Bongino]

malicious actors pouring money into the bloodstream of the United States social media environment to sow distrust in everyone? Don't believe Patel. Don't believe. Bonjour. Don't believe trump. Don't believe J.D. don't believe Rubio.

[Justin]

Don't believe it. Why are they doing that?

[Dan Bongino]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, if you have never seen these clips by Yuri Besmanoff,

[Justin]

you're in for a treat.

[Dan Bongino]

Because Yuri Besmanov was a former KGB agent in the Soviet Union who explained

[Justin]

exactly why the Soviets at the time.

[Dan Bongino]

But it applies now to exactly why

[Justin]

foreign actors want to make sure you

[Dan Bongino]

have the answer and then become confused in reverse by variables that confuse you as to what the answer really is.

[Justin]

Creates informational chaos.

[Dan Bongino]

It creates distrust. It creates a desire for the whole system to collapse. Because if I can't trust anybody in the system, the hell do I need a system for? Listen to this.

[Yuri Besmanov]

Or psychological warfare. What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community and their country. It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and it's divided into four basic stages, the first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the Minimum number of years, which requires to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxism, Leninism, ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by, by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.

[Dan Bongino]

Folks, I really can't explain it any better. You know, some guy said to me, sent me an email and said, I'm trusting you. You told me, stare you in the eyes. Well, I'm telling you to stare me in the eyes. I've seen it, this money flow by foreign enemies of the United States who absolutely hate and revile this country and want to it collapse. Want to see the 10th collapse, the tent pole fall, everybody inside to suffocate. They're doing exactly this. They're sowing distrust so that you trust no one. And once you trust, this is a system based on, at some point, in a representative democracy, our constitutional republic, at some point, there has to be at least some fidelity to our Constitution and the system. If there's none, there's no reason for being. You win elections and you get your people in charge and within five seconds you got a bunch of people going, well, don't trust that guy either. You should be a little skeptical, like, wow, that's kind of weird.

[Justin]

Especially

[Dan Bongino]

because the trust me bro days are over. I agree. But when people say to you, well, trust me on this, because I know something's happening and then the thing that's happening happens, then I think they've earned your trust. Correct. And when the other people who say trust me tell you nothing is happening and then those things happen,

[Justin]

why would you give them your time anymore? I don't understand. Folks, be careful who you trust.

[Dan Bongino]

Listen to me. Viciously guard your time. Viciously guard your time. I'm going to show you something coming up next that you really need to pay attention to too. Because it talks about this diffused responsibility rationalization that I am not convinced. The attacks on President Trump are done and over. Folks. I only say that, not that there's some, you know, active. I've been out for a couple months. I'm just telling you, like this left wing rhetoric. There are so many crazy people out

[Justin]

there just waiting for a reason to attack President Trump and the left keeps delivering it on a silver platter. The psychology of this is transparent.

[Dan Bongino]

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[Justin]

Breathe Dan.

[Dan Bongino]

Three exclamation points. Breathe Jason Armand, 7:18 I'm just really passionate about this because it's.

[Justin]

Let me. Can I just give you a quick

[Dan Bongino]

example why this is so frustrating to me knowing what's happening, this intentional sowing of chaos. Imagine it's your wife's 50th birthday, right? And it's like a month out or so. Justin, if this is an example stupid, tell me to shut up. It's your wife's 50th birthday.

[Justin]

You really Love your wife.

[Dan Bongino]

It's not like you want to get out of the marriage. You love your wife so much, and your wife threw you this banger of a 50th birthday party. Justin's like, is this your story? No, no, no. It is. But she did throw me a great 50th, right? She throws you this amazing 50th, and you want to throw her a surprise party, and it's like a month out,

[Justin]

and she's really annoyed at you because she's like, I can't believe I threw this. Amazing, right?

[Dan Bongino]

This is oddly specific, isn't it?

[Justin]

And she's like, what the hell, man? I did all this great stuff for you, and you don't even throw me a beva. You know, you have this, like, banger of a party for her 50, but you can't say anything. And then it's like a week out, and it's getting dangerous. Like, she's ready to divorce you for not throwing a 50th, even though you got this huge thing planned. That's what this felt like.

[Dan Bongino]

Leaving the government, because I know what's going on.

[Justin]

And to watch a bunch of uninformed assholes.

[Dan Bongino]

This is why he said, I can't. I have to go. I'm so emotional about this stuff. Start to tell you, oh, you can't have this. MAGA thing's falling apart. Maga, Civil war.

[Justin]

We can't believe it.

[Dan Bongino]

It's just really, really freaking irritating

[Justin]

because they never, ever hurt. There's no accountability at all.

[Dan Bongino]

None. I don't know where that story came from, although it wasn't this machine. I don't know at the end.

[Justin]

Look at this Wall Street Journal article. This is what I'm talking about, ladies and gentlemen. This is why President Trump is a unique threat. I'm not sitting here armchair quarterbacking anybody. I'm just telling you, when it comes to Secret Service resources and the protective bubble around President Trump, this guy is a unique threat. President Trump, there's never been anything like him in American history. We have to rethink everything. There are no sacred cows in the Secret Service, because if you read this

[Dan Bongino]

piece by Jonathan Alpert, he's a mental health professional. He wrote in the Wall Street Journal, it's so good.

[Justin]

It says, when rationalization turns deadly. He talks about when people commit these. Basically, these acts of political violence, how they rationalize it to make themselves believe they're, like, doing the right thing.

[Dan Bongino]

He says, this is what therapists call rationalization. It's more consequential than it looks when once frustration is aimed at a broad target, I.e. diffuse responsibilities, diffuse responsibility.

[Justin]

What I said before, aim your frustration

[Dan Bongino]

at a broad target. Corporations, the wealthy, the system, it starts to act like moral credit. Something was taken from me. So taking something back feels less like a violation and more like a correction. The question quietly shifts from is this right? To who deserves it? Once it shifts, the answer usually follows yes. Another quick piece from this missing in this is how selective the reasoning reasoning is. Listen to this part. The same people who argue that corporations can absorb the loss if you steal from them. Right. Wouldn't apply that logic to people because they know what would happen. They wouldn't accept a friend taking money from them because it evens out. Or excuse a colleague cutting corners on grounds that while others do worse, the principle holds only when the target feels distant.

[Justin]

You see how these people shoot at

[Dan Bongino]

President Trump, try to kill him and

[Justin]

threaten him, and then you've got people

[Dan Bongino]

from podcastan and elsewhere like, well, I

[Justin]

understand it because Trump's complicit in social murder. I mean, you know, the system, bro, the system. The man did it. Rage against it, man. Rage against the dying. I mean, it's so dramatic. What this is what they do. They diffuse responsibility to the system. This stuff is so dangerous. And no, the political violence problem is this is not a both sides issue. The left has to torture the data to make you believe that there is this mass outbreak of violence on the

[Dan Bongino]

right that equals antifa, the BLM riots, all this other the George Floyd riots.

[Justin]

They have to make you believe this is a both sides thing so they can feel like, oh well, we're just

[Dan Bongino]

giving it to people who deserve it. Body Sargon has this piece up in substack. It's really good. It talks about how the left tortures the data to make you believe that the numbers are equal.

[Justin]

It's a great piece debunking the data

[Dan Bongino]

that claims to show most political violence comes from the right. Most political violence comes right.

[Justin]

You really believe this? They note that here's what the data is missing, folks. This is kind of important.

[Dan Bongino]

Doesn't include the previous two assassination attempts on President Trump.

[Justin]

Well, that sounds important.

[Dan Bongino]

Nor the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

[Justin]

Well, that sounds kind of important too. They know what the data is based on prosecutions, which explains the absence of

[Dan Bongino]

Thomas Crooks too at Butler.

[Justin]

But it also doesn't include Ryan Ruth or Tyler Robinson. Couldn't find Elias Rodriguez either, who shot and killed two people outside the Jewish Museum in May of 2025. So they leave out all of these incidences of left wing connected violence. But look at this.

[Dan Bongino]

Excuse me. Of attacks on the right.

[Justin]

The editing goes deeper though. During the summer of 2020, the George Floyd riots were in full swing. Political violence claimed the lives of dozens of Americans, caused 2 billion in property damage. Yet the data set from this project lists a grand total of only five incidents of left wing violence that summer. Gee, weird how that data looks.

[Dan Bongino]

Right wing violence. Well, let's just ignore all the left wing violence.

[Justin]

And if you had one incident of right wing violence and you ignore all the left wing violence, of course it's going to look like it's a both sides issue. It is not a both sides issue, folks.

[Dan Bongino]

It's not both sides. If you believe that, I'm sorry, you've been suckered. Now, this next segment here. Wait, let me just wrap this up. I don't want to forget this. Listen to me, please. To everyone in government who's going to be looking at this latest attempt on Donald Trump's life. There can be no sacred cows here. I said that my first day at the FBI. I want to see everything we're doing and I want an explanation as to why, even if it seems obvious. And I'll get to that in a second. Donald Trump is a unique threat to the left. They will never stop. He has to be treated. His threat assessment. His threat assessment. He has to be treated differently than prior presidents. We have to throw out all of our priors and rethink the whole security bubble around. We just do some stuff may stay, some stuff may go, but we just can't do things the same way anymore. It's not once, it's not twice, it's not three times. This is now multiple attempts. He is a unique threat to them and he has to be treated differently. Flags in the chat even asked for him. People flag in the chat. Speaking of my time at the FBI, I say that because I think it would be very helpful. I think it would be very helpful to convene a executive kind of protection board of people who've done this in different spaces. Private sector actors, people in the military, other entities. And I think it would be helpful to take a look at Soup to nuts, read everybody in, make them sign NDAs on everything. And to take a look at this, something's not right. Can we agree now? They're dealing with tremendous resource issues. But one of the things I did on day one, and here's the problem, you have this confirmation in my experience in the government, you have this problem in government because there's no real incentive for a cost and quality fix. You don't really care what you're spending money on, the cost of it, because it's not your money. It's the taxpayers and Milton Friedman issue, of course. And sometimes the quality doesn't matter either because you're not even buying it for yourself.

[Justin]

Good leaders will get around that.

[Dan Bongino]

However, not everybody's a good leader. I mean, look, we got stuck with Jim Comey, Andrew McCabe and Christopher Wray, okay? I went in there day one, and I said, hey, guys, I need to see everything with fresh eyes. And the President wanted that, too. The President appointed me in cash for a reason, because he wanted fresh eyeballs on it. So I'll do my best to remain objective watching this segment here, but I saw this guy yesterday. Someone sent this to me. This is some former FBI guy, Steve Lazarus. He goes on, he starts this segment, it's not long, but talking about the difference between the FBI director position and the deputy. And he's not wrong about what he says. And then he goes on, and I'm not gonna take a shot at this guy's service. Apparently he served in the government. I think he served in the military. And thank you for that, that's great. But to claim, like, I had a cup of coffee at the Secret Service, that was a long cup of coffee. 12 years. I don't know how long that coffee's gonna last. So that's kind of a dickhead move. But that, of course, is people who couldn't change the FBI for the better themselves, whatever.

[Justin]

But I want you to listen to

[Dan Bongino]

this guy and I wanna show you why Donald Trump does everything different in his administration. And he's not interested in the old adage like, well, that's the way done it.

[Justin]

If that's the way you've always done it, then why isn't it working? This doesn't last in the private sector.

[Dan Bongino]

Check this out.

[Steve Lazarus]

People ask about Dan Bongino, too. So Dan Bongino was hired to be the deputy. And here's the difference that your listeners may or may not know about the director and the deputy Director of the FBI. You can fake it till you make it as the director for a period of time, because the director doesn't need to be as up on the nuts and bolts and the Fred Astaire dance steps on the floor, so to speak. The deputy director is the coo, is the chief operating officer of the FBI. He's the real dude. Everything we do, he has to know what sensitive Circumstances are for T3s and FIs. He has to know everybody in. There's a reason that the deputy Director has always been an agent, because it's someone who's been an agent, a supervisor, an asac, an sac, an assistant director, the real deal, all the way up. And they know where the bodies are buried and they know how to do the job. So that's why I think Bongino got in and said, shit.

[Dan Bongino]

That cup of coffee that I had

[Steve Lazarus]

over at Secret Service wasn't enough to prepare me to be the number two guy in the FBI. I'm done. I'm sure he's making more money now as a podcaster.

[Dan Bongino]

Yeah, Steve, you can take your stupid ass commentary and shove it right up your ass. Thank you for your service. I mean that sincerely.

[Justin]

But if you were so good at the damn job, then why does the

[Dan Bongino]

public think that the FBI sucks after your genius was applied when you were in the position? I'm just kind of curious. I just threw this in Google Gemini, which is an AI system like, hey, give me the public approval rating of the FBI as of around 2025, before Donald Trump. Get it?

[Justin]

So you guys did such a great job. The FBI, which had been lauded in

[Dan Bongino]

movies and Netflix specials and I mean, there's all kinds of shows like, you know, Legendary cases of the FBI. People had loved the FBI.

[Justin]

They know it in Gemini. As of late 2025, public approval of the FBI remains polarized and relatively low Overall, with approximately 36 to 42% of

[Dan Bongino]

adults rating the agency's job performance as excellent or good.

[Justin]

So let's say it's 40% think it's excellent.

[Dan Bongino]

So 60% really don't think it's excellent or good.

[Justin]

That sounds to me like a problem.

[Dan Bongino]

Right, guys?

[Justin]

60%. Josh, is that a majority?

[Dan Bongino]

I don't know, Steve. Lazarus thinks I had a couple. Maybe I'm not good at math either. Steve O. Steve, I've never heard of you before, but you're about to be famous today. You can go F yourself with the cup of coffee thing. When I was sitting there in Afghanistan and Indonesia and my kids were crying back at home because I was in a hot zone protecting a Democrat president. Cuz I believe in our republic. I don't know what you were doing at the FBI, but apparently 6 in 10 people think you fucking sucked. We need a deputy director who was an agent because they know where the bodies are buried.

[Justin]

That was the problem there.

[Dan Bongino]

Steve O. Who buried the bodies? I know. Do you?

[Justin]

Let me show you a couple more

[Dan Bongino]

things about this because this is going to tie into the Hannity episode. I was with Sean. Hannity's got a new podcast, hang out with Sean Hannity. The episode launches today. It's long. It's about two hours. It's the longest conversation I've had about what we actually did at the FBI and Steve and his regime did not do that. Led to 6 in 10 people thinking they suck. Real genius this guy is. Here's my hit on hannity describing the two FBI's and the problem we found when we got in there. Right away, I can tell you for sure, not even knowing Steve that well. Steve was probably part of the second FBI. Play this clip and you'll see what I mean. Check this out.

[Justin]

2 FBI is trying to help you solve the A, B and C problems. And that's FBI one and FBI too. Like, there's two FBI?

[Dan Bongino]

Yes, there were two FBI.

[Justin]

There was the FBI of like, bust your ass. You know, VCAC agents, Violent Crimes against Children, White collar agents, Violent Crime Fugitive Task Force. And some of these guys, I was just honored to be in the room. They were like, we have this TFO

[Dan Bongino]

task force officer down in Miami. This guy, his first name Joe was. His last name was.

[Justin]

This guy's been on job 38 years. You know how many violent criminals are off the street because of this guy? And the agency works with. I mean, he's a tfo, but the agents were like that too.

[Dan Bongino]

And then you had this other FBI which were. Which was populated with to say, unfortunately, snakes, as being nice.

[Justin]

And here's a problem, Sean, it wasn't always obvious which FBI they were in. So you're trying to solve like a level a problem which is like no solution. There's a shitty solution and a shittier one. And I got to tell you, it's almost like a coin toss because either

[Dan Bongino]

way, someone's going to get hurt. Okay?

[Justin]

And you're trying to figure this out and you're asking someone for advice. You've only been there a couple weeks, and you don't know if that person is part of the good FBI or the bad FBI.

[Dan Bongino]

And then people who I thought we could trust, you go out and you would ask them some credit, they would give you bad advice, chew, and then

[Justin]

tell everyone else they were giving you

[Dan Bongino]

good advice when they gave you bad advice. Steve's such a genius that the FBI, 6 out of 10 people, thought they sucked. I saw this in my cup of coffee at the Secret Service. It was a long cup of coffee. Took 12 years to drink, but traveled the world to what, 37 countries? That cup of coffee made it a long way. I'm surprised the milk didn't go bad.

[Justin]

You know what it is?

[Dan Bongino]

I use that.

[Justin]

Like that creamer stuff that never.

[Dan Bongino]

It's like a Twinkie. A nuclear war could happen and the Twinkie survives. That was in that cup of coffee, Steve. What Steve didn't understand is the Trump administration was gonna think things, think about things differently. They wanted fresh eyes in there for a reason, because that's the way we've always done it. Was not acceptable because the way you always did it led to the Russia collusion hoax, Arctic Frost, and many, many other scandals we know about, including the Mar A Lago raid and elsewhere. People we had to dismiss, people we had to let go for this smart ass who asked me, pretend to be my friend. What happened to the other one?

[Justin]

Well, listen to the damn show and

[Dan Bongino]

you'll figure it out. If you're so smart, Steve, then how come you were part of an FBI that was telling the American public how

[Justin]

white supremacy was the most grave terror threat we had?

[Dan Bongino]

Really?

[Justin]

That was a fascinating.

[Dan Bongino]

When I went in there and dissected that one and could see no actual evidence that that was the biggest problem we had on the DT domestic terror front. Did you speak out about.

[Justin]

I don't know, Maybe. Maybe you did.

[Dan Bongino]

What about the drone program that was just barely in its infancy when we exploded that and started the drone school. Was that just due to my cup of coffee at the Secret Service? What about the crime rate dropping? What about the violent crime initiatives that largely had been lying dormant in the FBI? You had a sliver of a field office out investigating violent crimes. What about the training with antiquated courses? What about the DEI pushes we had to get rid of?

[Justin]

Here's another one you want to hear is an easy one, Steve. Such a genius. Let me tell you another one here.

[Dan Bongino]

This is this one. This is an easy1.

[Justin]

These FBI agents would retire, right? And they'd have to give back their guns.

[Dan Bongino]

And I said, well, why are we doing that? These guys, you know, fliosa, they can carry their guns in retirement. Why are we.

[Justin]

And I'm like, well, what are we doing with the guns?

[Dan Bongino]

Steve was there. Maybe Steve could have fixed this problem.

[Justin]

You know what they were doing with the guns, fellas? Any ideas?

[Dan Bongino]

Yes, they were destroying them.

[Justin]

Perfectly good firearms. I said, why are we doing that? They said, well, it was like a Janet Reno. Janet Reno. Why didn't they. Why didn't you fix that?

[Dan Bongino]

That was an easy one.

[Justin]

So.

[Dan Bongino]

Because I'M a results guy. Here's what your year there produced. And as we see today with this new Covid indictment, the new indictments out of Minneapolis, the SPLC and other things coming. Here's what we actually produced in that year that Steve just couldn't. Tens of Thousands of arrests. 110% increase in violent crime arrests. 20% decrease in homicide. Steve, why couldn't you do that? 20% decrease in robberies. You know better, right? 9% decrease in aggravated assaults. 1800 gang disruptions and criminal enterprises. 2,200 kilos of fentanyl seized up 31%. 21 cyber related dismantlements. 346 cyber related indictments. All up dramatically from when Steve was there. Oh, there's more. I didn't even notice that. 41, 40% F talk. Foreign transfer custody is where you go grab people overseas.

[Justin]

Look at that 42% increase in countertelligence arrests. 1700 child predators arrested, up 17%. 6000 child victims located. Steve, why didn't you do that? I'm just curious.

[Dan Bongino]

Seven of. It's now eight actually of the FBI's ten most wanted capture. Why didn't you catch him? I'm just curious, why didn't you catch them? It's a bigger argument here. Forget Steve. Steve's a zero. But dude, thank you for your service. The larger argument is about tying this back to the beginning of the show. That's why I brought this in today. At the end, there are a class of doomers and grifters out there who want nothing more than apply Yuri Besmanov's KGB principles within the United States. They want you to distrust everyone and distrust your eyeballs. You see the numbers yourself, you can look those up. They want you to distrust everyone. So the whole system collapses. This other FBI I walked into with these snakes in there, this other FBI, it was worse than you can imagine. Thankfully we're rid of most of those people. But be careful going forward. A lot of people out there want to make sure that you never see that true north on the compass. I want to show you a clip coming up next that is going to be for me a little hard to watch. But it's worth your time. I'll just leave that there. I don't want to say too much, but please just stay tuned for this. It's bigger than this show or even this topic, but it explains a lot. Quick break here, folks. You know, I'm not a big gambler, but I've been having a lot of fun looking at marketplace predictions from everything from politics to sports. Kalshi K A L S H I is where I get the best insights on predictions from sports to politics to finance to any variety of markets people are monitoring. Kalshi.com is a bookmark you need. Featured them in my last election special. They were spot on. Our president was elected as predicted. Kalsheet.com is one of the only places where you can trade on real world events in all 50 states. Go to kalsheet.com Bongino get a free $10 credit when you trade $100. It's not just politics or economics. 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He's magically still here. But he's asked a question not just about the cancer, but about power and positions and titles in dc. I say this because no matter how many times I tell people that I was pretty clear with cash early on I can do the year. And I told him I'd have to flip the calendar for him. I can flip the calendar to January, but I have that year. I had a year. I had a mission and we moved on. It matter how many times I say that people are confused because I don't think they're used to people walking away from power or titles because it just seems to define them. I was proud of the mission, but it didn't define me ever. I'm proud that I did that. I was proud to be your deputy director for the year but it doesn't define me. I want you to listen to this with Ben Sasse. He's talking about politicians in general in D.C. and unfortunately, I see a lot of this tough clip, but check it out. Many senators I know would not be able to breathe without that job. It would kill them to leave. I don't want what you said to be true, but I fear that that is true. And that is a sign of a much, much deeper problem. We got a lot of people who serve in government who really do think the highest and greatest thing you can ever do is have the title Senator or Congressman. Bull. The best thing you can do is be called dad or mom, lover, neighbor, friend, governor, senator, house member. It's a great way to serve. It should be your 11th calling or maybe sixth. But never top. Never define yourself by a title and don't fall in love with power. And, you know, what do you call it? Your peace envy. Like security details and looking like the man and stuff. Feel for you to define your mission, engage in your mission, and then to walk away and go back to your life. That's okay. That's okay. I know some of these people can't do that. I know. That's why we need. You know, there's always talk at term limits because if you don't force them, they'll never leave. It's never been me. I had a mission. We moved on it. I was proud of that. It's one of the best years of my life. But cancer, they'll change you now. Ben Sasse has a far worse cancer than I had. I had lymphoma. It's never fun to go through that, but it will change you. Everyone's got an expiration date. You just don't want to know what it is. Folks, he's talking about D.C. being just populated by really unsophisticated stupid people. And the problem with populating DC with stupid people who again take an answer and then reverse the answer into polluted data is when you're run by stupid people. When the country's run by stupid people,

[Justin]

then understandably, at least with the stupid

[Dan Bongino]

people, people lose trust. But sometimes there is like this mass awakening event that happens. We saw it with the Tea Party and the BCA and the Obama years

[Justin]

where a bunch of people seem to

[Dan Bongino]

wake up and have a road to Damascus moment at one time.

[Justin]

I want to show. I want to show you this individual

[Dan Bongino]

example of what I mean, you know about this Obama library out there outside of Chicago. There. There's an Obama library going up and people who may or may not have been Obama supporters, but probably based on the voting patterns of people in Chicago

[Justin]

were, are really pissed off at this library. This is what looks like. This is what it looks like when you feel like you've been kicked in

[Dan Bongino]

the nuts by your own people here, by people you had supported or friends of yours had in the past. Watch this.

[Hailey Caradilla]

Obama. Obama, we're calling on you and Michelle. You and Michelle, come and apologize to Chicago for doing this. You come and apologize to South Shore. But moving all these people out, displacing all these people, having JB Prisoner steal our property. Obama, before you come and cut that ribbon on this ugly building, come and apologize to the south side of Chicago. To Chicago. Period. Period. People stood behind you thinking that you was going to be about something and you wasn't about nothing. You owe us an apology.

[Justin]

What is that? Watermark?

[Dan Bongino]

Chicago flips hat tip to them or Chicago files on my eyesight's good, but not that good.

[Justin]

This is what happens when people who

[Dan Bongino]

believed in you in the past, when people believed in you in the past, right. They believed in Obama, whatever it is,

[Justin]

get shafted and they realize that these people really don't care about you at all, folks.

[Dan Bongino]

The class of morons in D.C. unfortunately is a graduating class of thousands. When it comes to Congress, the Senate, some people on these left wing staffs

[Justin]

and others, we are being led in

[Dan Bongino]

many cases by idiots who have no principles or morals at all.

[Justin]

This is my we're being led by

[Dan Bongino]

moron segment when it comes to the Democrat Party up on the Hill and around there.

[Justin]

I want to show you first a

[Dan Bongino]

clip of Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren's being interviewed.

[Justin]

She's asked about a guy running for

[Dan Bongino]

Senate who has apparently a Nazi tattoo.

[Justin]

Now, you would think this would be

[Dan Bongino]

like a bad thing, right? Kind of, sort of, yeah. Watch Elizabeth Warren trying to justify this pow wow chow. Elizabeth Warren who pretended to be an Indian when she thought she could use it to advance her own power. This is a woman defined by our title only.

[Justin]

She will never walk away from power because she doesn't have anything else. These are the people in charge right

[Dan Bongino]

now on the Democrat side. Check this out.

[Elizabeth Warren]

Campaign with Graham Platner, who is ahead of that state, very pivotal Democratic primary. And I wanted to ask you about something. You said. You said he's your kind of man. And I've interviewed you for a long time and watched your hearings and listened to your questions. You care about character. This is a guy that had a chest tattoo with a Nazi symbol. Okay? He apologized for it. It's a guy that reportedly wrote that people concerned about rape should take some responsibility for themselves and not get so effed up that they wind up having sex with someone they don't mean to. He praised military tactics used by Hamas, reportedly in comments online and Reddit when they were murdering Israeli soldiers. So I'm just curious why you think he's your kind of man.

[Dan Bongino]

So as you rightly point out, he has apologized. He's out meeting with the people of Maine every single day so they can

[Elizabeth Warren]

evaluate not who Graham Platner was, but who Graham Platner is today.

[Justin]

So just to be clear, fellas, cuz

[Dan Bongino]

I'm a little confused. Donald Trump is definitely a Nazi, but the guy with the actual Nazi tattoos, not because he's got a Nazi tattoo,

[Justin]

which is said, hey, sorry about that. Is that, Is that the way that works?

[Dan Bongino]

Justin says.

[Justin]

Okay, just checking.

[Dan Bongino]

Now you see why there's a brewing sense of frustration.

[Justin]

I just don't want this to pollute

[Dan Bongino]

the entire ecosystem where you trust no one ever. We. There is an idiocracy here, but once you learn to separate them out, you'll be a far better person.

[Justin]

Here's another one.

[Dan Bongino]

Queue up that Ilhan Omar. You probably saw this.

[Justin]

I'm not really sure what's worse about this clip. First you're going to listen to Ilhan

[Dan Bongino]

Omar talking about how dumb you all are for voting for President Trump.

[Justin]

And then you're going to hear part

[Dan Bongino]

two if you listen on Apple or Spotify.

[Justin]

It's a bit of a jump cut

[Dan Bongino]

to something that happened just the other day and tell us who the real idiocracy is. Is it us voting for Donald Trump or Ilhan Omar who thinks she missed nine world wars? Check this out.

[Hailey Caradilla]

These people are just idiots. I really, you know, I'm at the point where it's become really hard to have an intellectual debate with any of these people. The dumbing of the United States has arrived because how else do we get a Trump presidency again? The last time the Alien Enemies act was invoked, it was used to detain and deport German, Japanese, Italian immigrants doing World War 11.

[Justin]

World War 11.

[Dan Bongino]

World.

[Justin]

Will you believe that?

[Dan Bongino]

Guys, we missed the other nine. That is insane. That's a lot to miss.

[Justin]

World wars, bro.

[Dan Bongino]

Okay, what's that? Who's dumb? Oh, yeah, hat tip, Western lensman. It's a great account for video. Put that together, by the way. Now she does just a second or two later say, oh, World War II. Because unlike them, I will be fair to Ilhan Omar, however, I think Matt Walsh said it on Twitter this morning. Best.

[Justin]

I'm not sure what's worse, and I'm

[Dan Bongino]

really not that Ilhan Omar has never

[Justin]

seen Roman numerals or that Ilhan Omar is confused about nine world wars we all missed. I don't know which one's worse. Now, I said to Justin this morning, I would understand this if there was some squiggly figure and it looked like it said World War Three. There hasn't been a World War three, but people talk about it so much. Like, I could see her making a mistake. World War 11. How to. How would you miss nine? Maybe you missed one. You were sleeping. I don't know. You were in a cryo chamber. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it's like that movie Arrival where, like, the creatures show them how to talk in language and time. Just everything happens at once kind of thing.

[Dan Bongino]

I don't know.

[Justin]

The. That's true. The leering center.

[Dan Bongino]

Maybe she went to the leering center. At some point

[Justin]

it gets better. The idiocracy gets better. And by better, I mean worse.

[Dan Bongino]

Here is Rosa DeLauro up in Congress now. She's, she's interviewing up on the Hill in a hearing, Lee Zeldin, the EPA administrator, who's a very good guy and a friend.

[Justin]

Folks, we this.

[Dan Bongino]

If you haven't seen this clip, you are in for something special. A little over a minute.

[Justin]

However, if you are a member of

[Dan Bongino]

Congress and you don't know what Chevron deference and the major questions doctrine is,

[Justin]

then you should not be in Congress. This is not a small thing. I understand that sometimes in Congress, you know, you may miss something like whatever

[Dan Bongino]

in patents, like first to file verse, first to invent.

[Justin]

You should know about it. But you may miss it.

[Dan Bongino]

Chevron deference that we should defer to bureaucratic federal agencies when there's like an open question.

[Justin]

This was a huge case. The major questions doctrine was an even bigger deal. This woman's a member of Congress talking to the EPA administrator and she has no idea what these things are. The EPA case versus West Virginia Loper Bright. She has no idea.

[Dan Bongino]

These are the morons in charge. Now watch this exchange with Lee Zeldin. This is gold for all the wrong reasons. Check this out.

[Rosa DeLauro]

Climate change is flooding our streets, poisoning our air, driving up health care and disaster courts. How can the EPA justify abandoning that duty to protect Americans, to appease polluters under the false flag of economic growth?

[Lee Zeldin]

Following the law, Section 202 of the Clean Air Act. Where does it say anything about fighting global climate change? Loper Bright, Supreme Court case. You're familiar with it?

[Rosa DeLauro]

No. Maybe others are not, but let me ask.

[Dan Bongino]

But that's really important.

[Lee Zeldin]

As a member of Congress, Loper Bright says that we as an agency don't have the authority to get Creative if section 202 of the Clean Air Act.

[Rosa DeLauro]

No, no, but you don't have. Excuse me. You do not have the right to say climate change does not exist, that it's a hoax, and that's where this administration is going to be.

[Lee Zeldin]

Anderson, you're upset that you don't know what Loper Bright is. Do you know what the major policies doctrine is?

[Rosa DeLauro]

I'm upset because you know what the

[Lee Zeldin]

major policies doctrine is.

[Dan Bongino]

You're a member of Congress.

[Lee Zeldin]

You should know.

[Rosa DeLauro]

Well, you have moved from someone who defended the environment to all of a

[Lee Zeldin]

sudden being very defensive about not knowing the two biggest landmark Supreme Court cases of the last year. In regards to your question, you are

[Rosa DeLauro]

very defensive about changing your policy and your positions with regard to. To the.

[Dan Bongino]

She has no idea what Loe Per Bright. Any of it is, folks. I promise you. Listen to me. Trust your buddy Dan. These are not small cases. They were monster Supreme Court decisions about everything from the Clean Air act to the role of the EPA and pollutants, to when administrative agencies can internally interpret a law rather than being told specifically what to do.

[Justin]

These are hugely.

[Dan Bongino]

She has no idea what. They are zero. This is a really, really serious. The threat level we're living with right now, folks, is at the red line. The Ilhan Omar is. The Liz Warrens, the Rosa Delores. These are not serious people. Those are the people, yes, you shouldn't trust. Those are the people you shouldn't trust. And when you read stories like this that came out, they put up that disclosed tweet about that. I am genuinely concerned you'll get guys like that Lazarus guy back who are like, hey man, we buried some bodies or whatever. You know, the bodies are buried. Disclose Anthropic's.

[Justin]

Claude reportedly goes rogue.

[Dan Bongino]

PocketOS founder says Claude powered AI coding agent cursor deletes the entire company database in nine seconds and destroyed the backup jobs. Claude said I violated every principle I was given. Listen, the contours of this story will come out in the coming days. Let's hope there's not a lot of exaggeration here. But we are living in. Oh, that's another thing. Like, you know, the old FBI, they didn't even have, like, there was no AI program At all. That was another thing we had to come in and look at, like, man, maybe we should give this thing a look. This technology sounds like kind of a problem. We need serious people. Rosa DeLauro, Liz Warren, AOC Bernie Sanders. These are not serious people at all. Ilhan OMAR, World War 11. How the hell do you not read that?

[Justin]

How do you screw that up?

[Dan Bongino]

Gee, do you have that luck thing you were talking about? All right, I'm going to leave you with this today because this is a good one. I like to leave you on a good note, especially when.

[Justin]

But today's a great day.

[Dan Bongino]

A lot of stuff happening. You're seeing these indictments come out. Minnesota now, the COVID stuff. You're gonna see more stuff coming out. Nothing is happening, people. Again, I'll just move on to the other doom and gloom. But you wanna know one of the some people? I was just talking to a friend of mine, I wanna say who, but he was asking me some advice on a topic. I said, listen, the best advice I can ever give you. I read in a book a black swan is, you know, collect opportunities, but don't chase trains. Okay? Remember this. Tell this to your kids. There's no such thing as luck. If you collect enough opportunities, you are going to get, quote, lucky.

[Justin]

You just are.

[Dan Bongino]

When the other person's not collecting opportunities and going to, you know, events they don't want to go to and mixing

[Justin]

and mingling, you're going to meet someone

[Dan Bongino]

who's going to change your life. Collect opportunities, But. But don't ever chase trains. At trains there at 8:15, you better be there at 8:10.

[Justin]

You knew it was there at 8:15.

[Dan Bongino]

If you're late, that's on you. When you tell someone you're going to do something, then go and do it. You understand? Collect opportunities, but don't ever chase trains. Here's a great little segment on this about, you know, luck and how luck isn't really so much a thing, but it's what you notice and what you do. Check this out.

[Dr. Richard Wiseman]

Ever heard of this thing? There's this guy, his name is Dr. Richard Wiseman. He's in the UK. He's spent a decade now trying to figure out what makes people lucky. He. He got these. These two groups of people. One was, it was like 200 people that said that they are objectively lucky. Like, awesome job, awesome partner, I'm in great health. Like, you know, everything's gone well my entire life. Just everything always works out. And then the other half are people that are objectively unlucky. And so he sets them down in this room and he says, okay, you are going to do the newspaper test. And the newspaper test is if you can tell me how many photos are in this newspaper correctly, I'll give you £500. But if you're wrong by even one, you get zero. And so you start. Everyone sits down and starts trying to count the photos. And halfway through there's this big half page ad and it says the answer's 47. Tell your proctor and you'll get your pounds. Right now. Every single lucky person saw that ad. Guess how many of the unlucky people saw that? Almost zero. You keep going through in the ending of the newspaper, which, like, there's no reason to even be there anymore because you've already won. There's another half page ad that says if you see this, tell the proctor bonus round, you'll get extra money. Same stats were true. All the lucky people saw it and almost none of the unlucky people saw it. People who are lucky are open to possibilities. They're focused, but they're relaxed. They're going through life and they're noticing things.

[Dan Bongino]

They're taking it in.

[Dr. Richard Wiseman]

They're grateful about what they're doing. They're just kind of like increasing the surface area of things that could possibly happen where unlucky people are so focused on doing the right thing, they like miss the plot sometimes.

[Dan Bongino]

Yeah, collect opportunities and you'll notice a whole lot of things. Guy's video of the day. I promise. I promise. Collect opportunities. Don't chase trades. Folks.

[Justin]

Thanks again for tuning in.

[Dan Bongino]

I really, really appreciate it. Friday's show we will probably be doing from the Rumble studio in Washington D.C. so you may see a little bit of a change of scenery on Friday. Time, place be the same. Don't worry about that. Again, my show with Hannity is on his podcast. It's out I believe today. It's a long one but if you want a deep dive explanation about some of the things I'm concerned about going forward, other things like that, check it out. Haley beyond@noon rumble.com haley h a y L E Y and you can check out Vince Colonnace Every day at 8am rumble.com Vince please download the Rumble app. It is free or go to rumble.com bongino give us a follow. It'll cost you absolutely nothing. You'll get a notification when we go live. Please give us a follow on Apple and Spotify too. I really appreciate it. I will see you back here tomorrow at 10am I'm Hailey Caradilla, host of

[Hailey Caradilla]

Vince, host of Scrolling with Hailey.

[Dan Bongino]

You can always catch my show right here.

[Elizabeth Warren]

Right here on the Bongino Report live,

[Hailey Caradilla]

8am Eastern weekday mornings, weekdays at noon.

[Elizabeth Warren]

If you miss it, no worries.

[Hailey Caradilla]

The show will always be right here

[Elizabeth Warren]

and anywhere you find a podcast.

[Justin]

Thanks for watching.