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This Scandal Is Much Bigger Than Most Know | Episode 178
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Taxpayer money is found being funnelled to an international terror group; Trump stands by calling a governor "retarded; a Lying Congresswoman doubles down; and the FBI's Kash Patel promises big news this week.
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Hey, everybody. Welcome to Vince on a Monday, man. I hope you had a tremendous Thanksgiving. I am so grateful that you're here with us. We've got a big show for you today. We've got to get our country back. How do we do that? Deport everyone who shouldn't be here? Let's start there. That includes people who should not even be US Citizens. Why is Ilhan Omar a US Citizen? Can we denaturalize her? She pretty obviously committed immigration fraud by marrying her brother. Yeah, you don't get to stay under those circumstances. Let's get rid of her. Let's put Tim Walls in jail. Why are so many people coming into our country and then stealing everything from us? We're gonna tackle a lot of the big problems. Talk about the way the President of the United States is reacting to it. It's all ahead on this edition of Vince. I've got a lot to get to. All ahead again. This, this program brought to you by Blackout Coffee, the official coffee of all of us here at Silverlock. You can go to blackout coffee.com. vince. Use the code, Vince. That for 20% off your first order, baby. Blackout Coffee. Thank you to Blackout Coffee for supercharging my dad. I mean, what in the world are we doing? You ever feel like you're just kind of sitting there and you're watching your country descend into madness and you're like, I don't have any power to stop any of this. I don't know what else to do. I just have to sit here and deal with it? I don't think so. I don't think so. Because if you feel powerless, if you feel completely disempowered in terms of fixing your country and setting its course for something greater, well, then that's how the country descends into utter chaos. Can't have that. Can't have that. So we're gonna talk today about all the ways we can get our country back on track and how, you know, Republicans, if they really want to win in these midterms, if they really wanna grow their margins, they will focus on fighting for the things that put them in power in the first place. There's a reason you and I keep voting for Donald Trump and his agenda, and. And it is to get our country back on track. That's all ahead on this edition of Vince. I am glad to be back with you. And as I got back home this weekend after a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday, I was able to get back to something wonderful. That's my Helix mattress. I love my Helix mattress. Before Helix. I was struggling with all sorts of crappy sleep tossing, turning and thinking, am I ever gonna find a good mattress? Is it possible? Yeah, it is possible. I took the Helix sleep quiz, I got matched with the perfect mattress and wow, what a difference. Now I sleep cooler, deeper, and I wake up actually refreshed, ready to tackle each new day. And with Christmas coming up, well, sleep is more important than ever. Between hosting your family and shopping for everybody else, don't forget to gift yourself a better night's rest. And people ask me, what mattress do you have? How do you sleep so well on it? Yeah, it's Helix. It's Helix. Helix ships free in the United States. It comes with a 120 night sleep trial and a lifetime warranty. No stress, just great sleep. And now Helix has an exclusive offer for you. 27% off site wide. Go to helixsleep.com Vince get 27% off sitewide. That's helixsleep.com Vince. Make sure you enter Vince into the post purchase survey so they know I sent you. That's helixsleep.com Vince. Yeah, I saw, I saw. What a Thanksgiving. I was like recovering and kind of like going through the news and I go, whoa. President Trump called Tim Walls retarded. Why is that? Why did President Trump say that? Why would he say such a thing? And, well, the answer is, is in the way that Tim Walz has managed the state of Minnesota. Tim Walls, remember that guy? Tim Walls was being foisted on the rest of us last year as some sort of symbol of masculinity. Do you remember that? Do you remember the coverage? Fellas, pull up this screen. This is the Washington Post a year ago when Tim Walls was introduced to the planet as Kamala Harris running mate. Masculinity's check engine light is on, said the Washington Post. Let Tim Walz have a look. Vice presidential nominee Walz's Midwestern dad vibe comes with opportunities to rethink a whole toolkit of types. That guy, look at that guy. That guy is a whole toolkit. There he is, sashaying onto a stage to tell you about masculinity. Tampon Tim Walls. So the rest of us instantly detected that this guy is full of shit the second he arrived on the stage. And unfortunately for the people of Minnesota, his terribleness has really left them with a massive problem on their hands. This weekend, the New York Times had a big report on the ways in which Tim Walls has screwed over the entire state of Minnesota. And it has to do with massive, massive amounts of fraud that have been happening at the hands of the Somali population that has grown in Minnesota such that there's literally areas of Minnesota, there's a whole city in Minnesota that's now known as Little Mogadishu because of the massive Somali population that's arrived there since the early 1990s. It was 1992 when the United States started accepting Somali refugees. And that was done for two reasons. One is because of the generosity of the United States of America. But also two, it was done to bring in cheap labor at the expense of Americans in the 1990s. And that has continued up until this very day. So now in Minnesota in particular, estimates, government estimates range into around the 90,000 point in terms of Somali descendants living in the United States of America in Minnesota. And this was all started by an establishment that thought this would be perfectly fine. Let's just import tens of thousands of people all at once into the United States of America. What will the effect of that be? Well, the effect is massive amounts of fraud, massive amounts of fraud to the tune of billions of dollars stolen from taxpayers. Here's what the New York Times had this weekend. They say fraud swamped Minnesota's social services system on Tim Walsh's watch. And they point out right up front this is unusual for the New York Times to admit something like this. Prosecutors say members of the Somali diaspora, a group with growing political power, were largely responsible. And then they go on to say that President Trump has drawn attention to this. Yeah, good. I'm glad he's drawing attention to this. They say the fraud scandal that's rattled Minnesota has been staggering in its scale and brazenness. Federal prosecutors have already charged dozens of people with felonies because they stole hundreds of millions of dollars from a government program meant to keep children fed during the pandemic during COVID At first, many in the state saw the case as a one off abuse during a health emergency. But the new schemes targeted the state's generous safety net programs to. They came to light and state and federal officials began to grapple with a jarring reality. And here's the reality that they were jarring, that they were grappling with Somalis, were stealing billions of dollars, billions of dollars. They made small fortunes by setting up fake companies, basically, excuse me, that were billing state agencies for millions of dollars at a time worth of social services that were never provided. So the Feds have prosecuted 59 people so far convicted in these schemes. They stole more than a billion bucks in three different plots. Three of them. They stole money in a plot to pretend like they were feeding people. They stole money in a plot to pretend like they were housing people. And they stole money in a plot to pretend like they were taking care of autistic children. They were doing none of those things. They were just stealing money. They were stealing a lot of it. Many Somali Americans in Minnesota say the fraud has damaged the reputation of their entire community. Yeah. You think around 80,000 people is what the New York Times says. I've seen estimates higher, around 90,000 at a moment when their political and economic standing has been on the rise. Yeah. The article goes on to say that one of the ways in which the theft was protected from any sort of investigation or prosecution is that they basically alleged that racism would be thrown at any investigator. In 2020, the Minnesota Department of Education, the officials there who administered a program to basically send out money for meals, became overwhelmed by the number of applicants who were seeking to register new feeding sites. And they began raising questions about the plausibility of the invoices. In other words, they suspected this was fraud. Feeding Our Future, the nonprofit group that was the largest provider in the pandemic program, responded with a warning. In an email, the group told the state agency that failing to promptly approve new applicants from minority owned businesses would result in a lawsuit featuring accusations of racism that would be sprawled across the news. Feeding Our Future later sued the agency, which continued reimbursing claims and approving new sites in the months that followed. They found that it was the threats of being called a racist, basically, that led the state to continue to allow the fraud to happen. So state agencies knew that fraud was happening. They knew that billions of dollars were being stolen, and. And the threat of being called a racist was enough to keep them quiet and to keep them from investigating. It's not shocking, but it is appalling. It's disgusting what's going on. It's absolutely disgusting. And the problems here are immense. There's a lot going on here. Well, one thing that's worth knowing, in addition to the fact that 90,000 Somalis now live in Minnesota, additionally, a lot of the people who. A lot of the immigrants who have moved to the greater Minneapolis area are fraudsters. They're fraudsters. In fact, if you go back to October 1st, gentleman named Scott Johnson wrote a opinion piece for the New York Post with the following headline. Vast fraud of Somali migrants, starting with Ilhan Omar, is finally being exposed. Ilhan Omar? Yeah, the lady who married her brother to commit immigration fraud. Here's what he wrote at the time. This week, federal officials have made an Astounding announcement. Nearly half of all immigrants. Let me pause on this. I feel like so many of these things just wash over us because they happen all the time. I just want to emphasize this point. Nearly half of all immigrants in greater Minneapolis were found to have committed some form of immigration fraud. The fraud uncovered in a September sweep came in all kinds. Sham marriages, fake death certificates, and other bizarre schemes, as the head of U.S. citizenship and Immigration Services, Joseph Eadley, put it. But the revelation is no great surprise to those of us who have followed the settlement of some 100,000 Somali immigrants in Minnesota over the past three decades. As far back as 2008, the State Department temporarily suspended one of the family reunification programs used by Somali immigrants when DNA testing of applicants found that 80% of all of its claimed family relationships were fake. Ladies and gentlemen, they found back in 2008, 80% of the family reunification claims by Somalis were fake. There was no blood relationship. Immigration fraud in this community has been the norm. And when it comes to bizarre schemes, Ilhan Omar is exhibit A. Omar is accused of and has never credibly denied that she married her brother to get him legal papers. This is the key, ladies and gentlemen. In 2016, following up on a tip posted on a local Somali discussion board, this gentleman found that Omar, then a first time candidate for the Minnesota state legislature, had religiously married, but not legally married, someone called Ahmed Hirsi, who is the father of her children. However, records show that in 2009, she legally married Ahmed Nur Said Elmi, a man who has been identified as her brother by Somalis on the discussion board. Omar was still married to Elmi as she campaigned for state office in 2016, although her website made no mention of him and instead touted her see as her husband. It appears Omar married her brother for a fraudulent purpose. That fraudulent purpose pretty obviously to get him into the United States of America. And so what do we have here? Well, we've got a lot. Let's unpack this. All right, so we've got over a billion dollars in fraud that's been committed by the Somali population in Minnesota. That fraud was committed with the intent of using that money to spend it on luxury cars, houses, real estate projects overseas. That money, I'll get into more of this in a moment. Has been credibly accused of having flown in, has flowed into, rather into the bank accounts or wherever you keep money of a terrorist organization into Al Shabaab. I'll get to that in just a moment. And Ilhan Omar? Well, it's been obvious for A very long time that she's committing fraud. She married her brother in order to get him into the country. And everyone has to act like this is normal. Why is that? Why is she still a member of Congress? Why is she still an American citizen? Why hasn't she been denaturalized and deported from the United States? What the hell is going on? Why is she protected? She's protected because she wears a headdress. Is that what. How crazy are we as a country? Everyone acts like this is totally normal. It's not normal. It's not normal at all. And so this all has to be dealt with. Ilhan Omar should be deported and Tim Walls should be in jail. Tim Walls, who's acting like all of this is totally normal. Let's play Tim Walls. This is Tim Walls defense of letting Somalis defraud US taxpayers. Here's Tim Walls explaining that he just lets criminals run rampant in his state. Cut to watch.
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Dozens of people of East African descent have been charged, convicted and sentenced for stealing more than a billion dollars in taxpayer money from government programs during COVID As you know, Governor, that is more than Minnesota spends each year to run its Department of Corrections. So I want to give you a chance to respond. Respond to this. Do you take responsibility for failing to stop this fraud in your state?
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Well, certainly I take responsibility for putting people in jail. Governors don't get to just talk. Theoretically, we have to solve problems. And I will note, it's not just Somalis. Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota is a prosperous state, a well run state where AAA bond rated. But that attracts criminals. Those people are going to jail. We're doing everything we can. But to demonize an entire community on the actions of a few, it's lazy.
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Almost every single person who's being prosecuted for fraud here is Somali. Demonizing an entire community because of the actions of a few. USCIS says half of all immigrants to the greater Minneapolis area committed fraud to immigrate to the United States. The 2008 data show that upwards of 80% of all people claiming familial connections in the area had no blood relation whatsoever. Tim Walls is nothing but a disgusting feminine liar. Forget masculine. He's gross. He's totally gross. And I love that explanation. We just attract a lot of criminals.
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That's it.
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It's a very well run state. So we attract a lot of criminals. No, if you were a well run state, you wouldn't attract criminals. You would repel them because they'd be scared to violate the law in a well run state. Because they would know that accountability awaits them. And that, of course, has not been the case in Minnesota. Democrats in that state have allowed more than a billion dollars to be stolen from American taxpayers. That's the truth. And some of that money is flowing to terrorism. Al Shabaab, which basically controls Somalia, has been receiving a lot of this money as these remittance payments flow back to Somalia. Check out a local NBC report. Cut one here on this issue of taxpayer money flowing to the terror group.
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Al Shabaab is the biggest funder of Al Shabaab, the Al Qaeda linked terror group in Somalia. Actually, the Minnesota taxpayer, a federal investigator says yes. An alarming claim first reported by City Journal, which spoke with multiple former federal agents. The U.S. attorney's office has charged dozens of defendants across multiple schemes including housing aid fraud, pandemic child nutrition fraud, and false billing for autism therapy. In total, prosecutors say these schemes have cost Minnesota taxpayers billions of dollars.
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Still, there are people that legitimately could use those resour that are not getting those resources. It's past criminal.
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Minnesota is home to one of the country's largest Somali communities. Former state fraud investigator Keshe Magin, himself a Somali American, wrote last year that it's uncomfortable and true that nearly all defendants in these major fraud cases come from that community.
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It's uncomfortable, but it's true. It's not shocking, but it is appalling that that's what's happening. Fraud. You know, the New York Times, they make a claim in their reporting that part of the reason this is happening is because in Somalia, which was a failed country, people became accustomed to stealing from the government. So they come to the United States and then decide they're going to steal from here too. That's, that's like what? That's so crazy. Dr. Samatar said that Somali refugees who came to the United States after their country's civil war were raised in a culture in which stealing from the country's dysfunctional and corrupt government was widespread. Minnesota, he said, proved susceptible to rampant fraud because it is so tolerant, so open, and so geared towards keeping an eye on the weak. So in other words, what you're seeing happen is we've imported a culture which is accustomed to stealing from the government. And what ends up happening? Well, if you don't assimilate, if you don't adopt the country's values here in the United States, if you're not abiding by law and order, if you're not adhering to that, you end up with little Mogadishu and endless theft of the generosity of American taxpayers. And these Democrats who run Minnesota have let all that happen. They've aided and abetted is so freaking disgusting what's happening. And so this leads us to, to President Trump calling Tim Walz retarded. He's retarded. The president said he posted a now infamous once again truth social post this weekend. And he's had enough. He's had enough. Whether it was the members of the National Guard who were murdered last week in the Streets of Washington, D.C. by an Afghani terrorist, or it's Somalis stealing billions of dollars from US Taxpayers, President Trump has had enough. Should I read the whole thing? Should I read? I mean, the thing is, this is a banger of a truth social post. I'll tell you what, let's go through it in just a moment. I'll read through it. You and I have to read the Thanksgiving message from the president of the United States. Also coming up, the great Reagan Reese stops by speaking of what's going on at the White House. She'll give us an update on that. She's the White House correspondent for the Daily Caller. It's all ahead of on this. Welcome back after Thanksgiving Edition events. Hey. A new Hillsdale College miniseries on colonial America is offering a very fresh way to think about Thanksgiving beyond the food and the political debates. It reminds us what we should truly be thankful for, our freedom, our prosperity and our faith. In a brand new six part documentary series, Hillsdale College professors are going to teach you the religious, political, cultural and economic ideas that shaped a uniquely American culture during the colonial period. You'll learn why the idea of religious liberty inspired the settlers of America to cross the Atlantic, how Americans organized local governments and why America has always been a land where virtue can lead to peace and prosperity. This Hillsdale College miniseries is completely free and it's easy to access. Plus, Hillsdale offers more than 40 other free online courses, including a course on C.S. lewis. Love C.S. lewis. The stories in the Book of Genesis and the rise and the fall of the Roman Republic. Yeah, the Colonial America course is awesome, especially if you enjoy some cinematic learning. It's brilliantly done. It's beautifully done. It's totally captivating, totally educational. And you'll learn a lot about the early settlers to the United States to what we now know as the United States, and how difficult their circumstances were and how they were able to overcome that tough living in order to fight for the cause of liberty. You can go to right now to Hillsdale Edu Vince to enroll. There's no cost. It's very easy to get started. That's Hillsdale Edu Vince to enroll for free. Hillsdale Edu Vince yeah, look, they set up a great country. They set up a great country, the colonists. And what are we gonna do with it? Are we gonna sell it out? We gonna let it collapse? Are we just gonna let it become like another third World hellhole? Or are we gonna fight to restore its greatness? President Trump to Truth Social this week posted the following. People are very upset. Everyone's always upset by everything President Trump does. I'm not upset. Listen to what he said. He said a very happy Thanksgiving salutation to all of our great American citizens and patriots who've been so nice in allowing our country to be divided, disrupted, carved up, murdered, beaten, mugged and laughed at along with certain other foolish countries throughout the world for being politically correct and just plain stupid when it comes to immigration. The President goes on to say, look, we've allowed a lot of people in our country, at least 53 million. They're on welfare, they're from failed nations, they're from prisons, mental institutions, gangs, drug cartels, they're living on the taxpayer dole. Patriotic American citizens are giving way too much to these guys. And we've been putting up with what's happened to our country, but it's eating us alive. He says a migrant earning $30,000 with a green card is going to get roughly $50,000 in yearly benefits for their family. And he said the real migrant population is probably much higher than the numbers he knows from the census. This burden is leading to tremendous social dysfunction in America. As an example, hundreds of thousands of refugees from Somalia are completely taking over the once great state of Minnesota. Somalian gangs are roving the streets looking for prey as our wonderful people stay locked in their apartments and houses, hoping against hope that they will be left alone. The seriously retarded governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls, does nothing either through fear, incompetence, or both, while the worst congressman woman in our country, Ilhan Omar, always wrapped in her swaddling hijab and probably came into United States illegally and that you're not allowed to marry your brother, does nothing but hatefully complain about our country, its constitution, and how badly she is treated when her place of origin is a decadent, backward and crime ridden nation, which is essentially not even a country because of its lack of government, military, police, schools, et cetera. So what is he going to do about it? The President says in this banger of a Thanksgiving post that he is permanently pausing migration from all third world countries to allow the United States system to fully recover. He's terminating all of the millions of Biden illegal admissions, including those signed by auto pen, and removing anybody who's not a net asset to the United States or who is incapable of even loving our country. And he wants to end all federal benefits and subsidies to non citizens denaturalized migrants. This is huge, guys. He wants to denaturalize migrants who undermine domestic tranquility. You understand what that means? That means strip people of citizenship who are breaking our laws, who are attacking our country. We should not hesitate to do this at all. Of course we should do this. You are welcomed here under the condition that you adopt our country's values, that you assimilate into it, that you join our shared mission. If you're here to undermine that mission and to diminish our values and to attack us as a country, get the hell out of it. You're not a citizen of our country. So the President says we need to denaturalize anyone who undermines domestic tranquility and deport them. Deport any foreign national as a public charge. Security risk are non compatible with Western civilization. Only reverse migration can cure this situation, says the President. Other than that, Happy Thanksgiving to all except those that hate, steal, murder and destroy everything that America stands for. You won't be here for long. Anybody else read this at home, by the way? Over Thanksgiving? Anybody else turn to loved ones and say, hey, did you guys see what the President just posted to Truth Social? I was reading this at our dinner table and the whole family, we're all nodding along. Yes, yes, please, please. Yeah, I did, says J.J. murphy. Yeah, do something about this. There's a message in here. There's a lot of messages in here. One, the most important thing is get our country back. But two, as a political matter, if Republicans want to grow their margins, if President Trump's agenda is actually going to be fulfilled, they need to do all of this for real. They need to do all of this. Voters were really clear last year in the election about what they wanted. In every survey on the subject, voters by a majority said they wanted mass deportations in the United States. That cuts across all racial lines. It cuts across all demographics. People want their country back. So they said, deport the people who don't belong here. If you came here illegally, get out. If you came here legally but then turned around to attack our country, get out. If you came in legally and then became some sort of naturalized US citizen, but you're attacking our country, you should be indeed naturalized and deported from the United States. Playtime is over. We don't have any space for this kind of nonsense. We have a country to restore. There are people being killed in our streets. We have billions of dollars of taxpayer money being stolen. We don't want to be third world. There's a reason we can make that distinction. We have been a wonderful first world country. I'd like to keep it that way. And I'm scared as hell about the direction that it's going, the way we get it back. We actually enforce our laws. It's as simple as that. And so if Republicans want to see their margins grow, I know there's all this debate about, oh, our margins are so small. You know how you win by demonstrating you deserve to be voted for. That's it. It's as simple as that. Every Republican should be on board with this mission. And by the way, the president is not at all ashamed of calling Tim Walls a retard. He was asked about this on Air Force One this weekend. You stand by calling Tim Walls retarded. Here's the president of the United States, cut three, saying, yes, of course I do.
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You know what? I think there's something wrong with him. Anybody that would do what he did, anybody that would allow those people into a state and pay billions of dollars after Somalia, we get billions of dollars to Somalia. It's not even a country because it doesn't function like a country. It's got a name, but it doesn't function like a country. Yeah, there's something wrong with Walsh.
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There's something wrong with him, that's for sure. And that guy should have handcuffs on and then let the authorities figure out what's wrong with them. All right, Reagan Reese joins us in just a moment from the Daily Caller. We'll get an update from her on what the heck is going on at the White House. She tracks it very closely. That's all ahead on this edition of Vince, you already know the name blackout coffee. I love blackout coffee so much. It's proudly the official coffee of all of us here at Silverlock. There's a reason for this. It's bold. It's unapologetic. It's America first coffee. It's roasted fresh right here in the United States. It's not grocery store junk at all. Blackout coffee delivers rich, high quality roasts that actually taste like freedom. And now you can set it, you can forget it with auto refill and recurring delivery. This means no more running out, no more watered down backups, just your Favorite roast delivered fresh on your schedule. Pick your favorite roast, how often you want it delivered. And not only do you get a discount, you also get double the rewards and free shipping right to your doorstep. I drink my coffee black, which is why I prefer Blackout. It's that good. You should do it, too. And here's how you can do it. Go to blackoutcoffee.com Vince. Use the code Vince. That's V, I, N, C, E. And you'll get 20% off your first order, baby, you're gonna love it. Whether you're into the bold dark roast flavored coffee or even instant, Blackout's got your back. Real coffee, no compromise. Blackoutcoffee.com Vince get yours now. Blackout Coffee. Thank you to Blackout, great sponsor of this program. Also, thank you to our. Do I have any? Oh, no, that's it. Just it. What a nice treat. It's just Blackout. Blackout's wonderful. Also thank you to the great Reagan Reese of the Daily Caller, White House correspondent, the Daily Car, who joins me now in studio to give me the latest about what I've been missing in Washington, D.C. reagan, it is so good to see you.
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Hey, Vince, it's great to see you. Happy belated Thanksgiving.
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Happy belated Thanksgiving.
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And happy Advent.
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Thank you. The first week of Advent, we mark that as well. We lit the candle yesterday in church. Okay. Let's talk about what's going on at the White House. Everybody's mad at Trump again, which is usual. But I don't really care about that. I just think it's funny. But the president seems like he has a renewed focus on the thing that got him elected in the first place, which is deport people who are not supposed to be here. What's going on in this?
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Yeah. Well, first, to the point that people are mad at the president, I have fatigue, I think, from the left and the media being mad at the president. I don't even like, clock it anymore. Kind of like move on. Okay. Like, what's the administration working on? I need to pitch a story today and get some reporting done. Yeah, yeah. They're mad. Yeah. After the horrible tragedy this weekend, the shooting in Washington, D.C. of two national Guardsmen, the president has really ramped up his focus on deportations and cleansing the country of aliens who don't belong to be here.
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Yes.
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And I think what we've seen from President Trump and is there's been a little bit of, you know, maybe frustration amongst the base sometimes with maybe the things that they've been focusing on. He's been focusing on I think a little too much of foreign policy, and there's been some frustration within the president's base, and they want him to start focusing on affordability. And the border issue in the deportations, that has been the administration's strongest issue.
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Right.
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They are so good at it, and I feel like they have not talked about it enough. And maybe that's because the mainstream media won't hammer it. Democrats are trying to turn a blind dial. If the only time you really heard about it was when we were talking about that Maryland father of the year and how it was so horrible that guy got deported.
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Yes.
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And so I think bringing this focus back right now to this issue. Look at this horrible tragedy. Here's how the Trump administration is going to protect you and protect, you know, our soldiers from being hurt any further.
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Right.
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Is going to be a really, really strong issue for the administration moving forward.
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Yeah, I mean, look, they have a lot to be proud of, to be candid, that I feel like they don't really talk about enough. I've talked a lot about it. First of all, securing the border as tightly as they have has been a massive victory. And in fact, the success that they've had on the border has been beyond what I expected. I didn't think we'd actually get to the point where we'd have no illegal aliens getting into the country, but that really is the situation. So I thank the President for that and for that reason, by the way, his agenda should keep winning in every ensuing election. Also, they've deported or they've induced self deportations out of people to the tune of nearly 3 million so far. So these are not small numbers. They just got the big, beautiful law passed. It used to be called a bill, but it's a law we know. And as a result, they've got, what, 10,000 or so new ICE agents coming. They've been hiring a lot for that, and they want to deport a lot of people. So that's all good. I do agree with the general sentiment of the base, though, which is like, focus on that. Because it does feel like it is the skeleton key to all the other issues, like affordability. You want to make housing affordable, deport tens of millions of people who are not supposed to be here so that we can actually have affordable housing again. Doesn't that make sense?
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Yeah, I think part of it, honestly, is a messaging thing. And I think the mainstream media putting Trump back in the White House has really renewed my feelings towards the mainstream media. Like, these guys really do not want Trump to Win. They really hate Donald Trump, and they do not want to focus on the success he's had on the border. It's almost like, okay, he, you know, did this great thing on the border. Let's not talk about it. Let's talk about whatever Pete Hegseth is blowing up near Venezuela and try to make a scandal out of that.
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Yes, thank you. By the way, thank you to the Secretary of War for being great. I'll talk to you about that in a minute. But it's just so stupid the whole time.
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Yeah. And so I. The only time the media, I think, was really forced to cover the border issue was at 100 days at the White House. They lined up on the White House driveway right on Pebble Beach. That's where all of the TV cameras are lined up, and they film their White House correspondence. And as they were talking, there were posters behind them of all the most violent illegal aliens that have been deported from the country.
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Right.
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And they were forced to cover that issue. And I think to really bring the focus back to this and to hammer this to the American people, to the MAGA base, how much they've grown on this issue, what they've done on the border security, they should put those posters up again, and they should put them in a position where they're forced to cover it. On the Afghanistan withdrawal and the Afghan nationals that came into our country, everyone remembers those horrible, horrible images of the Biden administration just trying to get planes to loading them up with whoever Afghans hanging off the wings of the planes. And what chaos that was drawing on those images and saying, we're gonna, you know, correct that wrong now.
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Well, then. And also morally blackmailing us into letting every Afghan national into our country. Do you remember that? It was, like, so crazy. They were like, oh, these are our allies. Like, what? You're gonna sell them out? We've gotta let everybody in. And. Wait a second. Can we vet people? Is it even possible to vet who we're letting into our country? They have a completely dysfunctional. I don't even want even to call it government, but whatever that is, like, the Taliban are running it. And so we're supposed to just trust this. And then we import all of these Afghan nationals, some of whom have turned around, and now we get terror threat after terror threat or actual terror attacks, as the guy screaming Allahu Akbar attacks members of the National Guard, and it's left to one guardsman to pull. Why was he unarmed? He pulled a pocket knife to stop the attack. This is crazy what's happening. Right now. So if I can. I'm sorry, I'm kind of monologuing as I should be interviewing you. But here's the point I wanna make. I think what happens is that it's always true in politics. If you succeed, it's hard to focus on your successes because voters tend to move on to the next horrible thing.
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D
Totally.
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They don't love dwelling on success because they're more interested in fixing the next thing. So that's a problem in politics. And so the president should do what he can to emphasize the wins that they've had. But at the same time, we still have horrible things going on, like, especially with immigration, especially with people who shouldn't be here who are literally committing acts of terrorism. So the President's got something, some big stuff to have to deal with still.
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Totally. I did a piece earlier in the year on how the GOP is going to capitalize on Dems being in disarray. And I still think, even though Democrats had that, you know, great night on election night a couple weeks ago, that they are still in disarray. I mean, watch how they handled the government shutdown. And so the gop, I think, still has a great opportunity to capitalize on Democrats fractions to secure the 2026 midterms. And it was their strategy is exactly what you were touching on there. They want to emphasize the success that they have. They want to explain to voters, hey, you need to give us more time to even build more on this success. You need to send us back into the White House. You need to send us back into con. And then also really drawing emphasis on how insane Democrats still are. Democrats have not floated to the middle since the 2024 election. They've moved further and further to the left. And really pointing that out and emphasizing that, I think can be a key point for the Trump White House.
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I hope so. But like, look, we're watching. There's this Tennessee special election that's supposed to take place tomorrow.
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D
Yeah.
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And a crazy lady is the Democrat nominee to take the job. She hates Nashville. This is all true. She hates Nashville. She's an advocate for infanticide. She wants more children to be aborted at home. She says it's more convenient to kill them at home. That's her plan. She said that she doesn't want children, she wants power. Have you heard this quote? No, I don't want children, I want power. She says, in other words, children come at the expense of her getting power. So this woman's a full blown Marxist psychopath and yet that Race is neck and neck right now. She's running against her great American veteran. That race is neck and neck in a district that's plus 22 for Donald Trump. Yeah, that's crazy that that's happening. That's a sign that there's anti Trump animosity. Clearly, that the left is playing for keeps. They're dumping a lot of money into these big races, even small races across the country. And we've got a very real fight on our hands. And so it does seem like if the White House takes any message from this, it has to be deliver victories for Americans with aggression with every passing day.
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Yeah. Also, this lady hates country music. I don't know if you saw that latest quote. And she's running for a seat in Tennessee, and I think that's the biggest crime of all. It is, like, so disgusting. I don't know how Tennesseans can look at that and say, yes, this is who we want to represent us as. She hates country music, and Nashville, Tennessee, is the home of country music. Yeah. I think that the Trump White House definitely has an issue on its hands. I think the election in November exposed a little bit of that. Yes, these Democrats won blue areas. That's totally true. But Trump admitted it. He had a breakfast with congressional leaders the very next day I was there. And he admitted that they have a problem. They have a problem when he's not on the ballot. They have a problem with affordability. He said that the government shutdown hurt Republicans on the ballot. And so looking at these elections and wondering, why is this happening and how can we adjust? There's still time before 2026 to make adjustments to the messaging and the way that the Trump White House is approaching different issues that are key to Americans. And this election, I think, is should be a really big kick in the butt. We saw Trump. I thought this was really interesting. Trump is always on truth social media, hardly ever puts tweets, truth social posts on Twitter.
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Yes.
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And that one tweet calling for the GOP to get out in this Tennessee election and vote for the Republican candidate also made its way onto Twitter. And that's a very rare occurrence. And I think that he's been posting.
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To Twitter a lot more late in, like, the last week.
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D
And they're getting huge numbers. They're getting so much engagement, because what.
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Does that tell you? Why is he doing that?
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It tells me, I think that they are realizing they need to adjust the strategy, they need to reach more Americans, that something's not working.
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They need to punch through but here's something. Here's. Here's something that I think about a lot. Remember when the Democrats were screwing us over as a country, they kept claiming the problem was the messaging. The reason. The reason Kamala Harris lost the election is because the messaging. The reason people didn't like Joe Biden is because of the messaging. Basically, it was always. Messaging was used as a convenient excuse for why they were screwing us over. And I was like, no, actually, you lost because you suck. You lost because you opened our borders. You lost because you sold us out. So, yeah, no, that's true. I think message kind of matters. But to get back to your point about the legacy media, I think fewer and fewer people even give a shit about what the legacy media is even saying. I think, fundamentally, they know how much money is flowing into my house right now. How much can I afford to make it to the next paycheck? What does my community look like? Is there crime within it? And what the hell are all these people doing here who shouldn't be here to begin with? So, like, forget the message. If you actually deliver results, people will deliver for you. They'll vote for you. This is. It does seem even far more basic than perhaps we make it.
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D
I know. Yeah. No, I think in my point with the president putting his Truth Social on Twitter is. I think that a lot of people will read his tweets when they're on Twitter. That's how a lot of people get their news. They aren't flipping on CNN in the morning or logging onto the CBS website or New York Times and seeing what they wrote. The only people who really do that are. Is me. And that's my job, is to see what all these other outlets are doing. And so I think there are way more Americans on Twitter who are getting their news from Twitter than they are on Truth Social. No offense to the President's own platform. And so I think they're seeing that probably as a way to reach more Americans and hear directly from the President.
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I think it's a good idea. I do. I do think that he should post his messages anywhere he can to break especially free of that distortion filter that the legacy media serves as. But this is worthwhile. I mentioned a moment ago that Pete Hegseth is getting a lot of flack because he said that. He allegedly said that we should kill narco terrorists. Now I'm struggling to figure out where the scandal is in that particular order. This was the Washington Post that had this big piece that claimed that there were these narco terrorists who the Military struck and they were still alive, floating on the wreckage of the boat. And that Hegseth, this is the way that the social media is telling it came in and saw them floating on the boat and was like, all right, now kill them. Kill what's left of them and fire the missiles. And now none of that is true, by the way. We already know, even the Washington Post reporting is like, actually Hegseth said in advance of all of this, kill the bad guys. That's it. And they said that the boat was, I guess, disabled, but not destroyed. Disabled, meaning it was still a viable military target. And so the military did what it's supposed to do, which is destroy the target. They did. The bad guys died. And I'm supposed to shed a tear about this. This is a big scandal right now.
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D
I know. It's a really interesting story. Venezuela, there's certainly all eyes are on Venezuela now. This is another example. You see the mainstream media turning their attention from the National Guardsmen who were shot this weekend, and now they're turning their eyes to Venezuela and how can we make this a scandal for the President?
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A
Yeah.
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D
The president was asked about it yesterday while he was on Air Force One. He seemed to not be aware of the story, said he needs to figure it out. But he also said that he 100% believes Pete Hegseth when Pete Hegseth says he didn't commit any sort of war crime like the Washington Post is trying to get you to believe.
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Yeah. Well, again, I love that the media gets really exercised about the rights of narco terrorists and has very little to say. About 100,000Americans a year dying due to the drugs that they're bringing into the country. It does seem like they hate us. You know what I mean? Like, if I'm going to walk away with any conclusion, it's like, I'm pretty sure you hate me because you've given way more sympathetic coverage to terrorists than you've given to any American.
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D
Yeah, it's utterly. It's so frustrating to me that these outlets still have sources that will talk to them. And I'm around them all the time at the White House. And they're not totally evil people. They play the game correctly. All of these left wings outlets that you think they write these stories and you're like, they absolutely hate me. You talk to them in the White House or I watch them interact with sources and they're very friendly people. They're easy to get along with. And it's so infuriating because if the Washington Post published this type of story. I would be reading this as a Trump administration official and I'd be like, this is so awful. I'm never talking to these people again. But I do think people go back and talk to them.
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Yeah. Because that's a particular kind of deception where you're like, nice to someone's face and you stab them in the back over and over and over again. And if I'm the Trump administration, no more talking to them. Take the attitude that they took with George Stephanopoulos after he treated J.D. vance like shit. Be like, nope, we're not talking to abc. Not after that garbage. And I get it. The President has this. It's somewhat a fault, but also kind of. Kind of wonderful, too, which is he has this overriding emotion that he can win even his worst critics over. He thinks in the end he can convince them to join the team, which is. Which is kind of a wonderful thing to think. But at the same time, like, at some point, just like, stop taking the abuse and stop rewarding it.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Well, talk to Reagan.
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Reesmore maybe one example that they're kind of sick of the abuse is they launched this weekend on the White House website, the worst media offenders. I don't know if you've seen this, Vince, but they have a list on the White House website of all of the worst outlets. They've given them essentially a grading or a rating of how bad they are. And then they list all of the reporters specifically who have written hit pieces or untrue pieces about the Trump administration. So now you, the American, can log onto the White House website, you can look up at CNN and see which reporters have really turned their backs to President Trump or written fake news. And so, you know, that's probably a positive indication that the White House is starting to decide, no, we can't win these guys over. We're going to shut them out more.
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Good. Shut them out. Talk to Reagan, do interview with Reagan. Reese Reagan, great to see you.
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D
It was great to see you too, Vince.
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And happy Advent.
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D
Yeah, happy advent.
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All right, let me. I want to. Thanks again to Reagan. I want to dive into something related to this garbage being launched at Pete Hegseth right now. The Secretary of War. Oh, he's a criminal. First of all, go fuck yourself. Like Pete Hegseth is fighting on behalf of the rest of us. How many stupid conflicts are we in in some other country on the planet that have nothing to do with direct American interests? We're killing bad guys who are importing drugs into our country, killing over 100,000 people, yeah, that's what we want the military doing. And we've been saying this for years. Finally, somebody's doing something about it. So Hegseth and company are doing something about it. And the left, they want to pretend like this is some great illegal thing that's happening, that the military should not be defending American interests, that we should not be killing narco terrorists. And that brings us to the events of the last two weeks. When last we spoke, I was commenting a little bit on Alyssa Slotkin, Mark Kelly, and what we've been referring to as the seditious six. These are these six Democrat idiots, some of whom were military veterans, some of whom are CIA alums, who have come out and said, hey, members of the military, prepare to ignore President Trump's order. Just get ready. We want you to start ignoring the orders given by the commander in chief. And now they dress this up in language like, oh, we're only talking about illegal orders, none of which the President's even given. And so they spent all this time trying to condition the military to ignore the President. Then we go into this past weekend with new claims that somehow Hegseth is doing something bad by killing narco terrorists. And then we get to Sunday where Mark Kelly goes on television and he is now doubling down on his sedition, and he's claiming that President Trump and Pete Hegseth are giving illegal orders. Here's Mark Kelly siding with drug traffickers against you and telling the military to start ignoring the president. Look, cut six.
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You can certainly go to the Judge Advocate Generals, the lawyers, and have a discussion about it. If you don't have time, you just say simply, I'm not gonna do that. That's against the law.
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It puts a lot of burden on the troops to make a decision in real time.
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It's a tremendous amount of burden on officers in the military. But that is their responsibility. And they can figure out, you know, a reasonable person can tell something that is legal and something that is illegal.
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So would you refuse these specific orders to strike drug boats if you were still in uniform?
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Well, the difference between the initial strike and what is being reported, you know, as a second strike, and those things are different. I think this administration has tied themselves in knots.
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Mark Kelly is a scumbag. Mark Kelly says in that same interview that members of the military who are following Trump's orders and Pete Hegseth's orders are very likely to find themselves in a situation where they've done something illegal. Mark Kelly should be court martialed for this behavior. Mark Kelly, who is receiving retirement money, is subject to the ucmj, and he's completely out of control. Completely. He knows better. And he's a United States senator acting like a total scumbag as he encourages the troops to. To begin assessing every order they receive and deciding which ones they're gonna follow and which ones they're not gonna follow. That's what Mark Kelly's doing, And so he's doubling down on all of this. Don't you feel like this is a part. This is a part of the same kind of sequence we're constantly served, where the left cooks up some kind of garbage, and now it's cooking up a justification for its garbage, and now it's taking things to the most lunatic levels imaginable. That's what Mark Kelly's doing right now. Yeah, Mark Kelly. Just completely out of control. So there they are again. I was mentioning about the media, too. It's like, why do you summon all of this righteous indignation for the drug traffickers, the people who are killing Americans? You've gotta pretty much hate us, if that's your position. Oh, don't kill the drug guys. Let them keep killing Americans. No, we'd like to kill the drug guys. I think that'd be a good way to stop things. In fact, it's been successful. I saw a good report out of Venezuela. There is a city in Venezuela, a coastal Venezuelan city, that was entirely, apparently dependent on drug money. The Daily Callers got this report. A drug hotspot on Venezuela's coast is reeling from Trump's strikes. Good. A coastal Venezuelan city long dependent on the smuggling of drugs and other contraband is facing economic collapse and government surveillance following US Strikes on suspected drug trafficking boats. Residents of Giria, assume that's the pronunciation, a port city with a population of around 40,000 say that US bombings have cut off illicit boat traffic that supported the local economy. In other words, all the drug money is what was running through that economy. Drug shipments and the trade of contraband food and consumer goods with nearby states. Vessels are no longer leaving the coast. Giria's shop owners report almost no cash is now moving through the city. Quote, there was only movement in stores recently because of government bonus payments. Otherwise, there is no money circulating. No boats of any kind are leaving. Not migrants, not people buying goods there to sell here, certainly not those taking Venezuelan products to sell there, which was another way to make money. Everything is practically dead. Oh, okay. I have an idea. You want to get the economy going again? Stop selling drugs. Stop importing drugs into the United States of America is the Venezuelan government want to actually get its economy up and running, stop sending drugs into our country, stop killing Americans. You fucked around and now you're finding out. And that means these economies are stopping. Sorry. That's what happens. Crimea River. So the president tough with Venezuela. Good, good. And these are the consequences for these guys. We are trying to deport people. We got a lot of people in this country who we're trying to deport. And I got an update for you from Tom Holman. The borders are. We haven't heard from Tom Holman enough. Tom Homan cut four. Here he is saying the president's encouragement to go after all these people are not supposed to be in our country. It's been heard. And we're about to deport a lot of people back to the third world. Take a look. Here's cut four. Tom Holman.
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And these third world nations, they don't have systems like we do. So a lot of these, Afghanistan, when they did get here to get better, they had no identification at all, not a single travel document, not one piece of identification. And we're going to count on the people that run Afghanistan, the Taliban, to provide us any information. Who the bad guys were or who the good guys are. Certainly not. And many people need to understand that most terrorists in this world, most of them aren't in any database because unless they were found on a battlefield by DOD in the retina scan and did biometrics there, unless you're part of a T3 undercover investigation, we don't know who they are.
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Tom Holman is a great American. I'm so pumped he's there. I'm so grateful that he's in that job. I can believe him. I trust him. Stay in the fight, fellas. Please keep fighting for us. We have a great country. We just want it back, that's all. We just want our country back. When President Trump says make America great again, this is. And when the rest of us say make America great again, this is what we're talking about. Let's make it great again. Okay. Pretty straightforward stuff. It is great to be back with you. I do hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving. I'm sorry, what's going on in the chat? Weak crying comments here. Somebody was weak. Don't be weak. Be strong. Be strong. All right. We got a great country and a great chat. We had the best audience anywhere, guys. Hey, we've got a big national radio show coming up today. We've got TheVinchow.com youm can get your local listings there. We're gonna cover this and so much more, including. I wanna get to today on the radio show, we're gonna talk about how the government under the Trump administration, the fda, is finally admitting that the COVID Jab was killing kids. Finally, an admission from the government, children killed by the COVID Jab. We've got the details on that coming up on the national radio show today. TheVintShow.com to get your local listings. You can watch us on rumble. Rumble.com Vince. And of course, I'll be back with you tomorrow. We've got a lot to get to this week, ladies and gentlemen. A lot. As always, have a great one.